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tv   Talk to Al Jazeera Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva  Al Jazeera  April 18, 2021 10:30pm-11:01pm +03

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many on the island say they're disappointed. that. the russians provided to us here are just not enough to survive on we heard that we would have an easy and comfortable life here than in a camp but the conditions of the same if i hear someone is coming to passion char i would tell them not to come here. for the rowing or who flood me or my life remains in secure their homeland is now ruled by the military john to their flat and the face an increasingly precarious existence in the land they have sought refuge country charge 3 al-jazeera bangladesh. are our main stories for you now the us is one russia that will be consequences if kremlin critic alexina valmy dies in prison and valley is on the 19th day of a hunger strike in his doctors have been denied access to lend support to say his
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life is hanging by a thread of ali's daughter dasha is calling on russia to allow her father medical treatment after doctors warned he's now risk of kidney failure. have you ever seen with your own aunts how someone is killed you're seeing it right now whatever the urge people have to look the other way and not think about it change the subject that doesn't change the fact that alexina violently is being killed in a terrible way and in front of everyone's eyes. meanwhile russia in the czech republic of engaged in tit for tat diplomatic expulsions czech republic says the 2 russian spies accused of the u.k. poisoning of sacrifice cripple were behind deadly blast at an ammunition depo prague in 2014 expelled 18 russian embassy staff and in response russia says that it's asked 20 czech diplomats to leave the country. while he's experiencing its highest infection rate yet of the 19 w.h.o. figures show this week that has been the follow the worst so far the confirmed
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cases with more than 5200000 fuelling the rise as india which reported more than 261000 new infections on sunday there are no bits in the hospitals there are no beds in the i.c.u. there are no ventilators there are no medicines are in short supply even oxygen is in short supply in more and more states and those who have died are creating for our worse together for the cent commission work can be more dangerous and more frightening than this scenario and the sad part is that the numbers are still rising the book coming few days me actually even worse than it. coming up next talk to al-jazeera with the former president president always and not doing it to self. after that about 25 minutes time i'll be back at 20100 g.m.t. for the recap of our top stories.
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what is. the super tuesday. he was once seen as the man that would finally turn things around in brazil. the workers party leader luis in our studio to silva known simply as lula came to power in 2003 with sky high popularity ratings the former factory worker whose humble beginnings helped him connect with brazil's poor as president he focused on social projects and policies during his 8 years. having lifted $20000000.00 brazilians out of poverty left office in 2011 with nearly 90 percent approval ratings the
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disappeared 3 years later a criminal investigation known as operation called washer estimated more than $2000000000.00 had been largely embezzled through brazil's oil company trip ross funds. led to the indictment imprisonment of several politicians including lula. the former president was convicted on charges of money laundering and corruption and since it's a $9.00 and a half years in prison he appealed but was shocked when the sentence was increased to 12 years and one month. kind of almost 2 years later was released by the supreme federal court which said the legal process had been on move and in march this year it's a no the corruption conviction ruling the court you know was tried. i did not have proper jurisdiction into the case he's now 75 and a free man citizen little haven't bishan is to become brazil's president again and which he secret ventral t. says was the international political prosecution he was a victim of brazil's former president who is enough to let the silver talks to
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al-jazeera. luis in the silver thank you so much for talking to al-jazeera. lately has been quite critical of the current president's handling of the situation in brazil especially the coronavirus allow me to ask you do you think you could do a better job if you were running brazil today. for the president to go but a view to study your we don't know mad dog a bit of you poor kid. what have you got want to move. now sheen you. don't know but a view we might be going to throw up will probably be able to go. you know mark could do tone of you don't know what could do to an appointed media nobody could be
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thought of her med you know what could be. a fair side of. evolve. or did you see for people to come into you know what could be moved to the mosque or. may do you need to have. in turn over that. not to put it there. if you knew tried to do more where for. you to hear me do you. think it. would you money you've put it into the i think it is element of you too but have enough across from talk radio i mean out there. the wall very good b.p. i got one when you were in. the up end of today with me if what you claim that me going to put a few lives you lost to put as you did to put here for 5 you damn you know.
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despite the some of the early might be said said to me going to. probably a little mischief and if to him it was rock opera in tow but get back to the cannot this time was vandal talked out the hit confabulate daddy do last 2 of those are enough. for the little no for him. no matter his point what if i would you know but as you. have you would you go with him through the value of will you then run for president next year or layton will muscle. there was probably a little party must require some don't get out of. the moves us did. didn't rob me know u.p.s. was possible for minister parties not to move or you might pick up towards the meet your depressed or dizzy but i gather a must. do you poke me for performer to the very intel nowheres sure
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thing. you do with your voice. die but a mere dilute up but a lot of progress lived of us human looked up to positive. people to vote but i got a judas priest was minus a tad of the story to the priest was cute but i gather no temple could disappear theo but a female seattle can you imagine bitch you go but it's a little product what you know for sure not to. it will keep did want to leave the park with the dust they saw us it was pretty though if it had a globe it up turn out be a scorpion see it will see. no point in try you want to put me through all 3 locked into after me about it for i'm locked up tight there for. a little. bit of a living or i love them to school to you in the phone you don't you. understand
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when you say it's not what you want to focus on right now but i do want to ask you the question i think it it is screaming silently in the backdrop here because as you said anybody could do a better job you believe running brazil than the current president poll say you'll still a very popular figure in fact they say that if you were to run in an election right now you would be president paul so now are you ready telling us you haven't even given it a thought very badly of a readership to pay someone to be useful or a 3rd of them it could do compared to your through my do to keep. joke or viewed order to preserve. the put into. concertgoer moment. no one would use could have possibly done this really thought out so it is possible then that you could run next year for elections. the fact you admit to
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a machete act you know but i view my theory. that there should follow my point of me no mother made to measure an action political capital after not just to tell a thought out. vi dick you know recommended that what i've called to shed god no more meat to describe filthy very inquisitive sorries you spout do you do. any normally point 0000000 or all of them it caused a big point of fickle about if not to be very good only that there was a difficult to conduct order and this is exactly that headline that obviously i'm trying to get from you i'll try again maybe a little later in this interview however let's talk about the decision to a novel the sentence against you the sentence against you the conviction against you was an out on a technicality that the current case was in the wrong jurisdiction in could achieve instead of being in another city but leaked phone messages between the judge who
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convicted you sergio morrow and the prosecution actually prompted accusations in the press that the prosecutors knew 3 days before indicting you that there wasn't sufficient evidence against you do you feel that the decision to are now your conviction is therefore incomplete or a vision you. know of for caylee meantime your has to basically be a professional football coach each year but never that the noise i stumble scorn turned to. a fallacy that they're going to going to really fight think one. it taught me to go into. court the head of you tom i wonder since out or to put in a court that didn't deal work to look as used to having to cover put turn to the car. or federal more do not read that you know miles you. for
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a full speed. ily mean to tempting to you would preclude our god is tempting to you your follow up meant to keep their live out of sequence but i provide. the days that mean that you'd ask you for a contact of point to me do you think that judge sergio morrow should face some consequences more than simply i think it was a 40000 dollars fine would you like to see further action against him and maybe even the prosecutors or the vision you. go through. that. in fact carol my head that i prefer to produce will defeat i do. you do essential for you. sabby but for. me today was who you. really. killed these poor tough a village 22 but surely sir this is not just about your personal feelings and
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whether you want vengeance do you think a better example should be set here if indeed this judge was found according to these leaked messages of conversations between him and the prosecutor and according to the decision of the supreme court itself that he did not act impartially shouldn't for the sake of justice in brazil shouldn't a stronger or would you like to see stronger action taken against the prosecutors and the judge in question. it washed your my account it washed. it washed. out of me cured of fabricating surplus assad my there was. a used yet or no ma'am your priority that do you think you might face a retrial is it something you're preparing for the possibility or preparing even for the top top do you know it also might be a saw
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a. good point could be a political point would be to pick or logical that you 50 of. course fears a. bit of you put turn to that you can. invent this period to evoke provocative into you get tough fighting to impress or go into some you know no weapon recovered of i mean to get out while the pool cover going there sept. gorda estab the media they fear that they did go in we did their fate. no i wish them would do they do and maybe deface lot. more of it immoral think one of our by their own to name a political party not a you knew you were. given the process sat. till september that you know fair fair on that point can i can i jump in ask you why do you think it took so many years to
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address a question a very simple legal question of whether or not that case had jurisdiction do you think it was really a legitimate process or do you think even the are now moment and the timing of it was politicized. models and that you know your favorite. interview star or president does or premier quarter but as a leader of a fair point. don't tell me this you're on the record as saying you believe brazilian u.s. and swiss prosecutors worked as part of the gang to target you why why do you think prosecutors from 3 different countries would come together and target lula da silva . didn't terrific turtledove promoter. want to build the department to digital to discover new a.p. mccoy the share mad better oil. but there are 5 b.
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a can ride to school but it was on my own. throw it into a new set. of the 2nd of june in noise move. back to probably a little 4th it doesn't appear to you yeah but isn't that really kind of your of him but he has a skill from going to. nuke us hate that it will also can assist them in tow at a pretty civil kid out duma at a pretty civil court that will rule a panel seconded that the body of the pet or argue. that dish to eat. but i can't simply are the media going to pull deaths of interim iraqi not able to get our valve to duplicate our good examining kernels but they'll probably. not then would. learn to care only if they sighted people or did you know stable document to provide on the part. of put or to.
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your now faith. view. you know the temple but if you're doing to put it's connecticut in for the do through a bigger political track you might. you want to play you've looked at what they said little bit of you so basically you feel that us oil companies were behind the push and the effort to remove you from power this wasn't just prosecutors acting on their own to nothing out of face the threat of terror i meant to not say . there would be a duck or speed ourselves might need to do. the part of procure a good dust to eat a thing terrorists are by don't profess to to macondo nava they did it is. because my already been part of you my mother fed proverbs procurement care to fit car 5 in the last voice my. queue of i understand you don't have evidence
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but i want to know what you believe and what you think you spent years in jail do you look at the prosecutors and say to yourself they just got together to put me to get me out of power or do you say there is at least one we at least can you at least tell this show there was people behind the prosecutor's you believe there were people behind the prosecutor's. tale filter that you have been told if this political pull of your little. girls into death is duplicate are good enough to give. it up to be able to starving sure go a pep talk but i have to fear they are going to petra you don't do it don't think it is my duty to tip of i think i have got divorced. but who do you believe those people are in your heart regardless of whether you have enough evidence to put it in court who does little of the silver believes well behind the prosecutor's move
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against him while a premier of probably sabra tables provest believe the pill or pull it off in their out. of the comment was not a table of good of us if not a movie jews. of there is no i don't profess to me too long for me either i have to be able to give i never want to hear poor elman movie that do not turn out for now who have the rough air of a double still leave. it to chuckle to fill your tooth by the clear could have to look quite go. do needles in town f. thought there could always have a period of time in bill d. they are taught to deal with the devil god will it do 50 of the q. more good if no. good home will kill think. here least. to public there shall people think i have got divorced or
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a very bad let me ask you this question if that's the case if they are very powerful as you put it geo political forces behind the effort to remove you from power if you decided to run again for president and if you became president are you sure all those same political forces will not remove you from office again. the premier of my school cool. noble of you. told the valley soit of. you are sick you know the pulling them with 2 do. not. know the move i do to another. not to move a. guy he started to dish to read they even judah and what did that up in of the movement of some people think what that who probably about the level chapel over
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a few days should be here think big think the same pain pain be your in. division. if so are sudden pretty have a nice pair of double squad to meet your if you walk through you part of the. for years to a faith to due process to live a shop crap to. provide that board instead of. what their job was to put the idea to due process that you can but the court fell support the idea put in there was improvisers was political. my boss said no point did you have pursued the cult of my dad or can commit their name karim let me pose a question to the your critics raise them and they would say the evidence still stands the evidence against lula da silva stands it was only the jurisdiction which was challenged by the supreme court how do you respond to the allegations that this
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could play out again in another jurisdiction brasilia power where there are cases still against you as we speak. though i think worms is more of a deck of a phone book and no japanese thought of a from an affair for. fear of chemicals keo woman elizabeth. no please see the present bad words when he fell and you've spoken loudly what would you like to see a retrial to clear the evidence and to clear your name. it will no month. i've contacted. kamu forwardness point don't mean shit of court ruling came forth put up borders. use mail to communicate. live there are the people who come now to tell abuse on my important to go but of
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you committees me think worth it is not think. that vote out the right. in turn if you could have picked up you ever. give up their lives on up would be to figure it out or minister. only a couple of a quarter me or there is a president that if you cut it is morally valid to you both and you come i mean. don't worry we would be interested interviewing you even more if those sorts of scenarios happened i think let me put this question to you president also now. look what happened to the stock market when the supreme court the decision of the conviction of lula to silver he says your bad news for the brazilian economy how do you respond to that. view it was
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a double shift of your bit of view what. do you think van of big ticket before you've compared. it would you feel positive. or negative view or milk or fear to faith or act with. who may go. ok for you that that need to know. you know is here and. i wanted to develop you know she had a move might think. me going to be a thought that me very have played into me going to be a. major that in turn but sir that might be true when it comes to the to the wider population certainly the polls say you're still the most popular brazilian politician but is it true when it comes to the business community they say you as a threat to their interests according to some surveys at the very least and
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according to as president also laura said the reaction of the stock market how do you comfort the business community in brazil. both are. going to do follow or. do you go. to have paid to tell you it. was dollars of the food was what. they view. them to whom i have. it back good to put a math up like your vote after governor had a bit of you but i kept it to pour the ethical into you finda for me were. plenty you would have you've made up of an arsenal now what does have quite a bit of youth of you. have it out. and after now or. pretty. or have you here partly to hear you and usually to but if you were to go out. we'll have you end up getting to an hour from now. to point to the view to
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point to the veto. no might terroristic use american back in america. compared to queries. interested in throwing it on our political ok i'm going to try one last time can we at least agree and say it is perhaps more likely that lula da silva will run for president than he will not given everything you've said about what a great job you did i mean if they're proud to do my share of oil or fish a guy you know is. would you use part do you do intend d.n.a. . q. lured out by the futile country back up to par the given moment sat fat i could do that my then fell to the active to vest my half hour of guilt thought cateau
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difficult. choice. understood. so little of the silver thank you so much for talking to al jazeera what out of. the out there we go for 30 that it can move in court i'm going to face the 4th with. frank assessments. the government wants what exactly are. taking for us you to listen like a man not to be if you ever get informed opinions is the u.s.
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al-jazeera. after. that. hello i'm maryam namazie in london our main story this hour the czech republic says the 2 russians fi's accused of the u.k. scrapple poisoning were behind deadly blasts and ammunition of prague in 2014 expelled 18 russian embassy soften in response russia says it's asked 20 czech diplomats to leave the country by mid smith reports now from moscow a series of explosions hit this ammunition depot 330 kilometers southeast.

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