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this is bbc news i'm rebecca jones. the headlines at apm: the vietnamese prime minister orders government officials to help please avert a better person. please avert a better personm please avert a better person. if you come into us we will do everything we can't arm around you, take you through this process and identifies quickly as possibly whether we do not have one of your loved ones involved in this tragic incident. england reach the final of the rugby world cup, with a stunning win against defending champions new zealand in yokohama. celebrations across the country as they beat the all blacks in the tournament for the first time. and the dup leader arlene foster vows to keep opposing
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borisjohnson‘s brexit deal unless changes are made. we will not give support to the government may believe they are fundamentally wrong and acting a nyway fundamentally wrong and acting anyway that is detrimental to northern ireland and taking us on the wrong direction. and the older people living with eating disorders, more on this and other stories with victoria derbyshire in half an hour. police say they've now recovered all 39 bodies discovered in a refrigerated truck in essex. they say they cannot confirm the identity of the victims, or speculate about their nationalities, although it appears several of them may be vietnamese.
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the vietnamese prime minister has ordered government officials to help establish the identities of the victims and to look into cases of vietnamese citizens sent abroad illegally. in the past few minutes, police in ireland say a fifth man has been arrested as part of the investigation. dci martin pasmore from essex police says that identifying the victims is their primary concern. what i have done this morning, is i have met with the vietnamese ambassador, we are building a really good and rapid rapport. again, we have agreed and i have made it perfectly clear to the ambassador that at every stage will be treating, you know, these individuals, victims with dignity and respect. the ambassador visited the city centre in grays and has paid tribute there. but underlining all that, of course, we do not know exactly the nationality of those individuals. at the moment, i'm going to focus and engage as much as i possibly can within the vietnamese community.
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when we look at those that are abroad, we know we may be able to use fingerprints and that may speed up the process and i hope it will. but when we look at those at home, that becomes a part of a more complex scenario, because it may well be that there are people watching this tonight that are thinking i am here in the uk and i'm here illegally. and i want to come forward, i want to obviously try and identify my loved ones and be reunited, but they are frightened to come forward. i have met this morning and i aware, i think we are all aware that there are some websites that people are communicating with them abroad, they are focusing in on from the vietnamese community. these are websites they may use in the come to the uk normally. i have met with a facilitator of one of those websites, again for him to be able to meet me, hopefully to get some trust in me and put out to the community to take that leap of faith and please make contact with my team through our portal. because if you come into us,
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we will do everything we can to put our arms around you, take you through this process, identify as quickly as possible, to see whether a not we do indeed have one of your loved ones involved in this tragic incident and try and reunite you. the next thing, of course, be repatriations. we are going to have to take this one step at a time, there are lots of issues that sit around these things, diplomatic issues. but we are all talking and this is the thing, this is the message. we are communicating, we are talking and we all want one common thing. as i said before, that is to identify our victims, and reunite them with their families as quick as we possibly can. our correspondent lisa hampele is in grays. lisa, much more to be no about the task of identifying the victims? well, we have just task of identifying the victims? well, we havejust been hearing task of identifying the victims? well, we have just been hearing from dci martin plasma as you say. he has
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been saying that his one purpose is to identify these 39 people who died on the back of the lorry. he says that although he cannot say what the nationalities where and i asked him has he actually identified any of the victims, he said as yet no, he has not. but he has said that they have heard a lot in the vietnamese community and that did the limits ambassador has been and seen him this morning, in fact, ambassador has been and seen him this morning, infact, he ambassador has been and seen him this morning, in fact, he signed the back of condolences and that he has been very dignified and there being as careful as they can. but they know that lots of people have come forward , know that lots of people have come forward, being desperate to find out about their relatives. people from vietnam and they have posted photographs and bbc has been approached and told by at least six families that they fear that people that their loved ones were among the dead. and so, he says he is asking for the vietnamese community to come directly to the police. he wants
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them to have no fear, he says that if there any in the uk, in britain who are worried about their relatives or have any information, they should come further directly to they should come further directly to the police. they have set up a website, which they will be putting out soon, which they say can they come to that website, connect on them? they say that they will give them? they say that they will give them amnesty, they said that essex police will not prosecute anybody who is coming forward with information who is an illegal immigrant here. he also said that he does not think that they will necessarily be from vietnam, he does not know all the identities. he has been talking to the chinese ambassador and the vietnamese ambassador. we have had a couple of other lines of information this afternoon. we have also confirmed that all the bodies have been taken from the lowly intel break, only very close to here at grace police station, and they now have gone to
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broomfield hospital in chelmsford to undergo postmortem examinations. we have also been told that the guard i has arrested a fifth person, another man in his 20s was arrested. he was arrested after taking a ferry from france to dublin and invite, he is won't be appearing in court at half past four, in less than half—an—hour this afternoon. it is not in relation to charges that are directly involved with this, but essex police are very interested in this person and it is in relation to their enquiry and they want to know more. he is appearing as liz30pm. lisa, thanks for that. let's speak to michael brosowski who joins me via webcam from hanoi in vietnam. he is the ceo and founder of the blue dragon children's foundation, which deals with human trafficking victims in vietnam.
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we are very grateful that you are joining a clear and bbc news, thank you. ido joining a clear and bbc news, thank you. i do think it is worth you helping us make the distinction, if you do not mine, between people smuggling and people trafficking. sure, in this case i think the distinction really comes to the poon distinction really comes to the poor. however, the issues themselves are blurred. people smuggling is when somebody willingly goes, illegally, cross a border and has paid somebody to take now. whereas, trafficking is when somebody is being taken against their will or without their knowledge. now, often trafficking occurs after people have been smuggled. that is been the case and a lot of the incidents in the uk until now, where people have been smuggled initially and once they arrive in the uk, they find themselves held against their will and soi themselves held against their will and so i technically now trafficked. i know that you have experience of smuggling and trafficking, can you
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give us a sense of how widespread the problem is? yes, basically they give show that trafficking is a major issue here in vietnam and in the region. we are seeing that the numbers of people being smuggled into and trafficked into the uk are a device and even though it is a major issue for europe to deal with, 18% of the image people who are chop it into china, so finding and repatriating trafficked people is a major task for both the charity sector and certainly for the police and government of vietnam. that is interesting that is a china is the primary destination. so, what are your thoughts about, i mean, primary destination. so, what are yourthoughts about, i mean, i appreciate we do not know any further details about this particular incident, but in terms of people coming to the uk, how widespread is that? well, the data
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on this is notoriously unreliable. but there are figures around, there are estimates that hundreds of people are travelling each month out of vietnam and into europe and into the uk. essentially, we have to say that nobody knows the real number. i think that this insert puts a spotlight on how broad and widespread this practice is. and hopefully must bury more action internationally for us to get on top of the issue. it is interesting, isn't it, at the vietnamese prime minister has ordered the police to launch an investigation into human trafficking. can you give us a sense of, sorry to interrupt, but i wanted to ask you, can you give us a sense of what might drive people to do this? well, it is a combination of factors and when we are trying to understand why this happened, we
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have to make sure that we do not look at just have to make sure that we do not look atjust one cause or one reason. it is normally a whole bunch of factors intertwining. poverty is certainly part of it, that makes people vulnerable to being offered opportunities that they think might change their life, that they hope will create something better for their future. but of course there are their future. but of course there a re lots of their future. but of course there are lots of purple for our not trafficked. so, it is not only poverty, it is also the history of the region, for example, a lot of the region, for example, a lot of the people ending up in the uk are from areas where there has long been traffic from those provinces, to europe and the uk. so, it is a well known path and it is easy therefore for people who are interested in these opportunities to find somebody who can take them there. so, there
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may be a personal network, there may be opportunities to borrow money that people can use to then pay the smugglers. so, these factors combined both push and pull factors, leading people to take a risk and think well, maybe this will change my life at the better. and meanwhile, there are people ready and willing to capitalise on that vulnerability. michael, we must leave it there, but so good to talk to, thank you. england's rugby team have produced one of their greatest ever performances — to beat defending champions new zealand — and reach the rugby world cup final injapan. the all blacks were clear favourites before the game, but england dominated, taking the lead in the second minute, and eventually winning by 19 points to seven. they'll face either wales or south africa — who play tomorrow —
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in the final. our sports editor, dan roan, was there. not since 2003, when the world cup was won, has english rugby enjoyed a moment as enjoyable, as significant, as the one we have just witnessed here in the yokohama stadium. they came into this match very much as underdogs, they ended it as top dogs. four years ago, england were humiliated on home soil in their own world cup, crashing out at the group stage. in the wake of that failure, the rfu invested heavily, bringing in australian coach eddiejones, they tasked him with putting the pride back into english rugby, and reaching the semifinals of this tournament. well, here this evening, he just went one better, and in doing so, his team have dethroned the superpowers of world rugby, the all blacks. it ends a run of six defeats against them, the last time england beat the all blacks was in 2012. they will have to wait until tomorrow, england,
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to discover who they will play in next week's final, either wales or south africa. but after a performance and a win that will never be forgotten, they now know they will go into the final as firm favourites. as you would expect, england fans leaving the match were delighted with the teams performance. we caught up with a few of them. the way those boys played today out there for us was absolutely incredible. it was relentless from start to finish. bearing in mind that was the all blacks they were playing against, is that as good as you have ever seen them play? yeah, i would say the defence was amazing. absolutely amazing. theyjust didn't give an inch. and it was superb, fantastic. if you pick the one to 15 now, every single one of them who wears the white shirt was unbelievable. how would you sum up that performance? breathtaking. amazing. if we play like that again in the final, you don't want to count your chickens obviously. but fingers crossed, that it all goes well. if we repeat that performance, then who knows? relentless was the word. right from start to finish, absolutely fantastic.
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a brilliant performance from the boys. you can see them winning the world cup now? who knows? i don't like to count chickens. never count your chickens. if they play like that again, they win it. it is as simple as that. the atmosphere was amazing. we had a whole lot of all blacks supporters next to us at one side, and we totally drowned them out. it was just superb right from the beginning. a really positive atmosphere, as well. how good were england? really good. incredible. really, really good. her first international rugby match. a good start, yeah! the team has been praised for their heroic display on social media. the prime minister borisjohnson said ‘immense effort by @englandrugby many congratulations to the whole team. now for the final‘. former england player will carling said, ‘was always going to take something very special to beat as side with the ability and history of nz. and that was very special. don't believe there can be any
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complaints about that outcome. so many outstanding performances'. and johnny wilkinson, the player who scored the winning points in england last world cup triumph 16 years ago he said ‘immense!! individually and together asa team....immense! on to next week's final. can't wait!'. my colleague geeta guru—murthy spoke to the former england rugby reaction to the result. i think it was a tremendous victory, but the best thing about it was they absolutely deserved it. no element of luck, in fact, they had a couple of decisions go their way, it could have been a bigger victory. they made a very good new zealand side look tentative. and did new zealand underperform? i don't think they were allowed to perform as they normally are. when they play the ball in hand
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usually, they look to escape in the best defence. but england time and time again shut them down, second and third tackles. i think new zealand made a bad mistake in their selection putting barrett in the back row, that gave england an advantage. i6 turnovers, that was the basis of the game. so england into the final, how much of that credit goes to eddie jones? a huge amount of credit goes to him. he had the foresight to pick the forward farrell. a lot of people, including me, didn't think that was the right thing. but he picked the two number seven is in the back row. and he was confident enough to bring all of his bench on against the double world champions. and defend what was a slender lead. at the end of the day, he has been proved absolutely right. this is the point, if they don't win the final, all of this is for nothing. and in terms of their preparation,
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their fitness, how much of that has played a part in getting them to the final four next week? i remember eddiejones saying to me when he first came here that these players are not fit enough. i remember thinking, "are you sure about that?" he is absolutely right. the intensity at this level, and certainly in the final, is far and above anything that people playing domestically. he was absolutely right to have the sessions he has had. even though people complained along the way. a man wanted by essex police in connection with the investigation into the deaths of 39 people found in a lorry is arrested in dublin. england are into the final of the rugby world cup —— after beating defending champions new zealand 19—7 in yokohama. and the dup leader arlene foster vows to keep opposing borisjohnson's brexit deal
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unless changes are made. in sport, england through to the world cup final, but who they face next? it could be wales, they play south africa tomorrow morning. hoping to which their world cup final. manchester city close the gap on premier league leaders liverpool to three points, but they come to a 3-0 to three points, but they come to a 3—0 win against aston villa. elsewhere, west ham and beating sheffield united. great britain's return to international rugby does not go well, beating 14—6 in their first test for 12 years. that is the sport fee, we will have more in an hour's time. the leader of the democratic unionist party arlene foster has underlined her party's opposition to boris johnson's proposed brexit deal. in her speech to the dup conference this afternoon, mrs foster accused the prime minister of breaking commitments he gave at the event last year.
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she warned that her party would not lend its crucial ten votes (tx we will not give support to the government when they're acting in a way that we believe is fundamentally wrong and acting to the detriment of northern ireland. we will oppose them and use our votes to defeat them. let me say clearly from this platform today that we want to support a deal, a deal that works legal the united kingdom and which is not leave northern ireland behind. but without change, we will not vote for the payments to's agreement. it would be bad for northern ireland economically and will begin the foundations of this great united kingdom. the brexit secretary says there will not be northern ireland to great britain paperwork, then he says they're well. the prime minister says not be checks, but then we are told there
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will be. now we are told is can be sorted out by a joint committee with the european union. we have been clear, we have been honest but the government throughout this process and we expect the same in return! the customs and consent arrangements must be visited and a one nation approach adopted. we worked intensively with the government of recent weeks to try to reach there and bounce deal, we were not seeking and bounce deal, we were not seeking a perfect deal, because no such deal exists. we were seeking a deal which delivered brexit without erecting barriers to trade. the leader of the democratic unionist party there, arlene foster. the government has repeated its call for mps to back a general election later this year. mps are expected to vote on the question of another poll on monday. the prime minister borisjohnson says he wants to hold one in december, if the eu offers a brexit delay until the end of january. 0ur political correspondent tom barton explained the challenges facing
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the prime minister. we did get a conclusion of sorts from this meeting of the eu ambassadors yesterday, in that they agree there would be an extension. but we did not hear is how long that extension will be. there is big disagreements in the eu about that, particularly with france's president emmanuel macron, who is very keen on a much shorter extension that some of the other eu states. so, instead of the other eu states. so, instead of up to the end of the year, potentially the end of january, he would rather see an extension of just a couple of weeks. that matters because boris johnson just a couple of weeks. that matters because borisjohnson would like to see the selection on december the 12th. he is going to put that parliament, we understand, on monday. he can only call that selection of two thirds of mps supporting. now, opposition parties have made it clear, first of all, they were not necessarily support there is no matter what, but if they did it would be conditional on it's
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happening before brexit. and so, we need to know what the brexit date is going to be, before any vote is going to be, before any vote is going to be approved. the government, though, underlining their keenness on an election, saying this is the only way to resolve brexit and earlier today the business minister saying that jeremy corbyn in particular needs to front up corbyn in particular needs to front up and accept portions and's demands. when theresa may was prime minister all he would talk about, one of the things he was talking about constantly business need for a general election. now he seems to have changes mind and he is saying thatis have changes mind and he is saying that is because we have not taking new deal of the table. but when we we nt new deal of the table. but when we went he was asking for a general election for two years i repose it was that no deal is better than a bad deal stops, no deal has always beena bad deal stops, no deal has always been a potential outcome. he has just changes might energy not think it has anything to do with the status of new deal. reports this morning suggesting the government
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could be looking at more divergence from the eu in terms of regulations, workers' rights for example, and environmental standards. talk us through that. what has been emerging? this is a document leaked to the financial times, the paper says that it essentially shows rightly said, the government is looking at diverging further than it initially said. then the eu's rules and regulations. this is once believe? yes, actually once a transition period is over. if we leave it a deal, we are talking about the end of that period, once we leave properly, if you like stop essentially, according to the financial times, this document said that they way the political declaration, which is the thing that sets along the withdrawal agreement and talks about how the two sides wa nt to and talks about how the two sides want to proceed with negotiations during the transition period, it says there is room for interpretation according to the
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financial times, and the closeness with which britain needs to continue following the eu's regulations. now, these claims are likely to be read to that labour mps, i9 these claims are likely to be read to that labour mps, 19 of which supported boris johnson's deal to that labour mps, 19 of which supported borisjohnson's deal last bigot that second reading vote in the house of commons, after receiving assurances from the government around workers' rights and environmental protections. the government today, though, has said it does not recognise this document and speaking earlier today the business manager said it would not make any sense to dilate workers' rights, because the government has put together this coalition, including a 20 labour mps and anything to undermine that which be anything to undermine that which be a mistake. a political correspondent there. a second man accused of killing two teenagers at a house party in milton keynes last weekend — has appeared in court.
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seventeen year olds ben gillham—rice and dom ansah died after being attacked at a birthday party in archford croft. earl bevans, who is 22, was remanded in custody. from oustide the court in high wycombe, our reporter helen mulroy sent this update. 0ne one big on since the fatal stabbing is of two teenagers at a milton keynes house party and now a second man has been charged with their murders. 22—year—old appeared at high wycombe magistrates' court this morning, wearing a greyjumper and with a black eye he spoke only yes to confirm his name, legal representation and the charges against him. two counts of murder and two counts of attempted murder. he was remanded in custody and will appear at luton crown court on monday. another man, who has also been charged in relation to this case, a 2i—year—olds, will also
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appear at luton crown court on monday. now, thames valley police say that this investigation is ongoing, they say that they know others were involved in these murders and they are urging them to come forward. the owners of the daily telegraph, david and frederick barclay, have put the newspaper up for sale. it's part of a wider review of their assets which has already seen the ritz hotel in london put on the market. the brothers, who are among britain's richest men, bought the paper in 2004 for more than £660 million. there have been more violent clashes in iraq today, despite protest leaders agreeing to pause demonstrations to give the government time to find solutions to their demands. the bbc understands two people have been killed and more than two—dozen injured across the country today. yesterday, at least 50 people were killed, and 2000 others were injured, after security forces used live rounds and tear gas
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against demonstrators. the protests began three weeks ago against corruption, lack ofjobs and economic hardship. the iraqi prime minister, has refused to step down but promised to reshuffle his cabinet. dr renad mansour, project director of the iraq initiative at chatham house, said the protestors' ultimate aim is to change the entire political system in iraq. for some time there has been a gap between the people and the village in iraq. they iraq moments opposite fault line has actually shifted to a fault line has actually shifted to a fault line has actually shifted to a fault line between a majority of the population and the rulers. the rule rs population and the rulers. the rulers who have reeled since 2003 without any accountability and also without any accountability and also without any accountability and also without any ability to provide basic
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services. so, the pasty years iraq has really realise that the only voice they have is not on the ballot boxes or in going to parliamentarians, but they protest. so, they have gone to protest famously last year, but also that yearin famously last year, but also that year in baghdad. something has changed and violence has entered into the equation. we have seen this month in baghdad over 150 earlier in the month being targeted and killed by the state security forces and their allies. so, the situation is tense and the search of, post—2003 iraqi state on the brink at the moment. as most of these protesters do not cover the end of one litre, one prime minister, one party even, they are talking about anti system change. they want to change the whole entire post 2003 structure that they feel was imposed on them by both the americans as well as by the foreign iraqi leads who came to iraq after 2003. you say something
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has changed, as we have seen the situation has tipped over into violence. what is change in my now? it seems that these protest up and going on for several years. year after year they are realising that the government, their very own leaders are just unable to deliver reform. so, their demands are becoming louder and louder and the leadership in baghdad is more, sort of, const test stations are stronger than ever. so, they are realising there is an existential threat here. hotels are anti—system and so they are to have a option, in response to that, some of them have chosen to use violence. violence is a protest, because they do not know any other way or they cannot think of any other way how they can remedy that massive gap that has increased between most of the iraqi citizens and those very wealthy elite who set on the green zones and really have, do not have much to do with


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