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belts and brace ourselves for whatever cataclysm is come. >> may be a fun sunday if we get there. >> thank you. the rest assured everybody out there, we will be here on monday. enjoy your weekend or maybe not. you never quite know. "piers morgan tonight" starts now. we will see you monday. well, tonight, winning "celebrity apprentice." country singer john rich and marlee matlin. >> yeah, okay. >> you suck. >> be careful. >> you want to. >> you want to kill each other in the final, don't you? >> i don't know -- i don't think between want to kill each other but i want to win. i want to win bad. >> i have advice for them. "celebrity apprentice" pinealists apinealist
s -- panelists and dick van dyke. what did you think you would be when you were young? >> failure. >> song and dance man who started a classic tv series. did you ever imagine being married to mary tyler moore? >> in a different life, different world it would have worked out very well. >> movies loved by generations. tonight he's here. this is "piers morgan tonight." >> rather nerve-racking time for my guests here. one is about to win "celebrity apprentice." somebody that has already won that competition, the best person to know just what hel they have been through so far. country singer john rich and marlee matlin. welcome, both of you. >> thank you. >> i know what you have been through. i was there in the treng much before you.
it is a -- nightmare at apprentice. >> the stress, the strain. >> ex-caution is what i never anticipated. i think the fans at home think -- it is one task a week. no big deal. in real time as you know, it is relentless every single day, 16, 18 hours a day. >> marlee, it is very stressful, isn't it? >> extremely stressful. it is nonstop round-the-clock. if you want to eat you have to find your time to eat. they don't make time for you to eat. that's how you lose weight on the show. that's how i lost weight on the show. they don't tell you what to expect when you get there. you have no anticipation. you just do it. you know what, we went with the flow. >> a kind of torture. i said this to donald trump. the producers make you more and more exhausted. trying to break down your defenses and get you emotionally and physically shattered.
>> translator: yet, it is up to you whether you want to take it that way. you say to yourself this is what i want. yes. i'm here for my charity. i just have to go with it. this is what kept me going. it is the charity. it is the money. like you are being greedy for your charity. you have to take care of yourself and drink water and eat. you have to do whatever it is, as much as you can, in the time that you are given. but you have to say to yourself focus and do what you can. >> how much did you both raise? what were the charities? >> i raised $1 million and an additional 50,000. i raised $70,000 on the other charities. >> i'm just under $800,000 for st. jude's and another $130,000 for other charities. it is an immense amount of money raised this season. >> i remember when i did it, raised just under $800,000. it does -- although you don't only do it for the charity,
there are other reasons. it certainly makes you feel good when you can raise that kind of money, doesn't it? >> translator: exactly. i mean, but for me, it -- the whole point for me was to do it for charity. clearly it is exposure. people want to see what you can do beyond what they expect. what you might do in your career. i'm an actor. i'm also an author. i'm a mom. i'm a producer. i have never been a graphic designer. i have never made pizza in my life like the way we had to make pizza. i never had to run an ad or shoot a commercial. it was great to be able to -- give me sort of validate that i'm able to learn and do other things other than what i'm used to doing. >> i'm worried when i die all the it will say man who sold hot dogs died. >> i thought that about you. >> you obviously -- trace adkins, fellow country singer.
it struck me when donald trump invited me back for last week's episode when he was trying to countdown to four contestants to the two, and -- he told me to go after everybody and get under your skin. what i found impressive about both of you, why i recommended both of you, you were both very cool under fire. this was despite the fact you have been through this hellish ordeal. new particular. mocked your hat, the famous texan hat. you still have none of it. ice cool. >> i walked through the streets of new york city in a cowboy hat and here yee-haw. where i come from, it is part of the culture. it is not a fad where i come from. honestly, i knew you were there to grill us and to go at us like that. we had been through so much as it was. it was no way i was going to crack under anything. i knew i wanted to be in the final two. and go for the last quarter of a million for st. jude, period. i had my game face on big time for that. >> i remember you asked me,
marlee, what's the advantage -- have you done a good job and won money. but -- people might think you are -- you know, you are having advantage by having an interpreter. wait a minute, i can't communicate without an interpreter. how is that an advantage and sit there to try to read everybody's lips? i would be totally lost. he was like an octopus. i needed to understand who was talking. who was yelling. who was thinking. who wasn't thinking. that's what an interpreter is for. >> here is the extraordinary thing about what i'm watching now. this struck me when i came back in to judge the final four. i have never seen anything like you two. i mean, i know you worked together for 20 years. but have you this kind of real-time relationship which allows to you have a completely normal conversation. >> translator: as you said, we worked for 25 years together. first of all, jack has deaf parents. sign slang hlanguage is his fir
language. secondly, as you said, we work together perhaps 12, not 24/7 but he missouri what i'm thinking. i'm always watching jack. >> does it give you an advantage that the others heard you speaking in a male voice? >> translator: perhaps because they see me signing and they know that it is -- me talking. i don't -- i think if i had a female voice it would have associated that voice with me but having a male voice it makes it clear that's the message but i'm the one that's speaking. and -- you know, it is not -- i'm not just taking advantage of signs and thinking fine. i'm comfortable. i'm always having to pay attention. i sometimes, you know, catch him when he messes up and i ask him to please say it again. >> when i interviewed you, i was intimidated. all this sign language, you do it in such a bang-bang way. >> translator: it is how i speak. hearing people a lot of times don't think -- they don't --
maybe they have never seen a deaf person or moving their hands. they are like fascinated. like kids learning something new. it comes quickly to most. i'm just used to it. i'm used to it. >> how important is this man to you? >> translator: this man here? well -- well. no. this man -- play as big role in my life because -- not only is he a good friend and he runs my production company, he is -- i mean, he is my confidant. he is -- it is important to have him there, not on a personal level. completely separate. >> how embarrassed does he get when he has to talk about himself in the third person like this? >> translator: he loves it when he hears his own voice talking about himself. >> it is an extraordinary thing to witness. >> incredible when i was trying to think if i was on "the apprentice" this season watching marlee interacting with 14, 16 people and hold her own and win challenges, remarkable thing.
>> without a doubt. i don't think anybody thinks anything other than what you said, she is a remarkable person, period. i mean, really, really impressive. and to -- to watch this -- >> amazing. >> i look at it as like a privilege to -- experience being around such a relationship. because -- how many people have ever seen something like this in person? it is incredible. >> translator: it happens every day. >> but you don't get the opportunity to witness it firsthand. >> you say that. i think the really important thing i thought after meeting you and see thing in action, is the incredible power of you as a role model now for deaf people in america. i mean, incredible. this show must have transformed that view. >> translator: there are 35 deaf and hard of hearing people in the united states. 35 million deaf and hard of hearing people in the united states. if you think about how many people -- then add that to the
kids, all those people who might need hearing aids, all those kids to make sure they -- they have the opportunity for access to communication, to education, to have -- the opportunities kids who can hear to get equal rights, just like anyone else, it is a large number of people. and -- we are talking about adults as well, too. >> the other great advantage you had as i pointed out on sunday of the show you couldn't hear all the terrible screaming and hollering going on. >> translator: that's the advantage. hi that advantage all my life. >> meatloaf, garey busey, star jon jones. >> translator: i could see it. i could see the crying and getting in each other's face. i was like my goodness. i would turn my head and not look at jack. >> i can see amarossa. i wish i hadn't been able to hear her. you got so close. in the end, quarter of a million dollars goes to a charity,
really big deal. isn't it? >> it is bigger than big. i'm playing for st. jude children's research hospital. this is a place in memphis where -- kids with cancer that they don't even have names for the kind of cancer they have because it is such a horrible disease that continues to morph into new forms of cancer. they treat kids that insurance won't cover. that can't afford to be treated. they take the hardest cases in. regardless of where they come from. it is also a research center. they have treatments for cancers that the treatments don't have names yet. they are a serial number. and they take these kids in and the majority of them come out and survive this situation. it is huge. what they do. >> are you surprised how -- competitive you have came in this competition in the sense much wanting to win? >> what i'm surprised is that -- and you have -- you never think of reality tv show would give you a life lesson but it truly lass to me. you can ask my friends. they will tell you. i feel like this was the --
first time in my life i was able to take all the things i built for myself and leverage them on behalf of someone else and myself in this case, st. jude. there were things i wanted to say to people, things i wanted to engage normally i would if it was just me and them. i chose not to because i was than there for me. i was truly there for the charity. it made me a better person. it really did happen and was a gear shift right in my heart. >> let's take a short break. i want to talk to you about what you learned about yourself from the process of being in "celebrity apprentice." i know i did. naomi pryce: i am. i'm in the name your own price division. i find empty hotel rooms and help people save - >> - up to 60% off. i am familiar. your name? > naomi pryce. >> what other "negotiating" skills do you have?
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it is great to see. let me ask you both what you learned about yourselves for taking part in "celebrity apprentice." you said brutal competition. reality tv. hard work. mental challenges. competition with erratic people. what did you learn about your self-s and your character? >> translator: i think -- welcoming into the show i knew i would be -- i would try to first raise as much money as i could for my charity. start the hearing foundation in minnesota. then i wanted to make sure that all these kids got the hearing aids. kids that can't afford them. whether they are in the united states -- that's the first thing i knew in my head. that's the purpose i came to the show. as for me as an actor, as an author, as whatever, being a mom, wife, i knew all of that. bring that skill set. once the show started, i thought okay, this also involves working with people. you have to help them as much as they have to help you.
and you have all sorts of different personalities. all sorts of people coming to the table. i think what i learned about myself is that i never really totally listened to myself so much, focused on myself so much, so intensely, and had an opportunity to look at who sxim why i'm here and why i want to do this or why i want to listen to this person as i did on the show and whether this was right or wrong. this is how i think. bottom line is i learned that i have had become extremely unselfish and that -- i amex -- am ex-treatmently -- it is not about me. >> you had a tough life. i read your book a couple of years ago. you -- in that you detailed a couple of times when you were young, when you were molested, once by female baby-sitter and once by a male teacher. you went into a heavy drug period part of which you ascribe
to that period you were molested. you had a decent relationship with william hurt. you have been through a lot. and -- i was curious to see knowing that background to you, how tough you were in this competition. how emotionally strong. people like meatloaf -- you kept tough. kept focused. that -- that surprised and impressed me given what you have been through. >> translator: all of the things that you have mentioned and that i have gone through has given me thick skin as an individual. and anything else that might come my way, i mean if you are speaking about whatever it is, i know exactly what is going out there. it is all there on the table. and whatever happens on this show, i mean, it is like a piece of cake. you can't compare it. not at all. so i think that is why i grew up -- i grew up quickly. and i grew up more -- knowing
that it is not about me. i guess at the end of the day. it is about deaf kids. it is about the deaf world. simple as that. i think that's one advantage i have. >> john, you said the same thing about your charity. always for the charity, back of your mind. i get that feeling. i went down to san antonio, texas, and saw these incredibly badly wounded soldiers. raising the money for. it was one of the most moving things i have done in my life. to actually see the people who would benefit from this fund-raising. i needed no more galvanizing to try to win the competition. but i also know about myself that -- you know, when it comes to -- i was incredibly competitive to win that. forget everything else. i wanted to win. by the end i had been through so much. i see it in both of you. that same thing. >> it will push you to new levels of -- competitiveness. truly believe that. you know. i want to win this competition. i want that quarter of a million dollars. i want it. i want to take that check to the kids at st. jude.
i can tell you that i think part of my ability to get this far was the way i was raised and i believe in god. i believe in country. i believe in kids. my dad is a preacher. i grew up in west texas. we worked and scrapped for everything we had. and hard work and our hard work ethic is how i had been raised my entire life. thanks to my parents. >> i read that -- you know, you have said publicly that you have written songs which your father has been offensive and you haven't recorded them. >> right. yeah. i mean, i respect his opinion. i said if you think this song is something that is too much and going to embarrass, you know, you or anyone else i will never record it. absolutely. respect is something that's missing in this world. you have to respect. >> you are being very respectful on the show despite provocation. you have to have respect in this world. as early as today, i called lady yes, ma'am. she said ma'am? what -- i said, well, where i
come from, we refer to ladies as ma'am. and -- i can compete all day with marlee. trust me, i have hell at my heels. i'm coming at this lady and we will battle it out and somebody will emerge victorious. it has nothing to do with do i respect marlee matlin. i have mad respect for this woman. she is a ma'am as far as i'm concerned. >> we only have one ma'am in england. the queen. she is the only laid who is called ma'am. just as a little aside. >> i will make sure i try not to say that when i visit. >> marlee, i mean, it is interesting. i was reading again this morning about you. one of the more amusing aspects. you found happiness with your husband, you have four children. yet, you have been here. while you have been doing this show by -- a big financial crisis in your life. haven't you? >> translator: the financial crisis, it is what it is. it is funny because -- streets not funny. but -- one thing i'm glad about is that when i found out that a
newspaper decided to poke into m.i.a. tax issues and they -- called me and asked for my response. i know what's going on in my life. i know what i'm doing. i know what i am not able to do at that time. people somehow thought i was surprised by it. no. i made payment plans. and i announced it before they did. i was glad to take care of the message. >> just to remind people, it is -- a $50,000 tax bill you got behind on. have you had to sell your house. >> no, i'm paying for and it keeping my house. i'm not losing the house. there is no lien at this point that makes me want to lose -- the $50,000 is a lot of money. but -- it is -- compared to a lot of people in the entertainment business that are in millions of dollars, it is my business and i chose and i'm a proud american that's paying it back and made payment plans. listen, i worked my butt off every day throughout my career. it is not easy for work to come to me.
i have to really work and that's why i'm always going to motivational speeches, that's why i'm having to leave my kids, whether it is their school play because i have to work. i do have to work. i'm going to continue to work but for those americans, i am paying my taxes and i am paying my $50 thousand back. don't worry, i'm not going to jail. i'm not going to jail. my kids and husband are fine. thank you very much. >> nicely said. you didn't even say it he really. i got it. he had to say it. we will take another short break. i want to ask you what you think this will do for your careers going forward. because it does have an amazing effect. i'm sitting here.
now that we are in an individual situation and you know that there is a tremendous amount of money on the line for my charity if i win, they will experience john rich in a way they have not experienced him yet. >> this sounds great. what are we going to do? >> what am i going to do? >> you are thinking john, my friend. >> i will continue to be -- >> you are making it sound like a mafia hit. >> we are going after the prize. if i'm allowed to be in the final two i'm going after the quarter of a million dollars for st. jude. that's it. >> that was a clip from last sunday's "apprentice." i gave john and marlee a grilling which they survived. in the final.
very exciting. >> bring it on. >> translator: bring it on. >> let me ask you both, john, start with you. you are quite a political figure. i was surprised to reads about all of that. you take politics seriously. >> i think everybody should take politics seriously. no matter what your beliefs are. no matter if you are right, left, middle. don't know what you are. politics, you have to know what people stand for and you have to go vote. my whole thing is go vote. you know. i believe what i believe. other people believe what they believe. at the end of the day, you have to go vote. >> the whole show yesterday about what happen medical the financial crisis and how they have all been giving themselves bonuses the first chance they got. what do you think about that? >> well -- not relevaal impress with that. i wrote a songs that talks about in the real world people are losing their jobs. in this make-believe world over here they can still bonus themselves and everybody else is getting slaughtered out here. i play concerts all around the united states.
you see people scraping together money for weeks and weeks to get a concert ticket to come have a good time with their family. to think that -- you know, there are guys out there getting on their g-5 and going to the bam ham sa bahamas is a sickening thought. >> marlee, what do you think hope this show will do for you? >> translator: i hope it gives me the recognition of showing who i am in real life, being marlee matlin, the deaf actress who won an oscar. want to go beyond the stereotype of bag deaf person. >> what do you think? >> i think there is a stereotype that comes with cowboy hats. there is a stereotype with lil jon, a guy that comes with baggy pants and gold teeth. i think one great thing that's happened this season is some stereotypes have been successfully broken down. and -- you know, everybody comes from a different place. they look like what they look like. they believe what they believe. we all have heart and soul.
we all care about our charities. at the end of the day i do believe that's where we all come together on the same page. >> marlee, difficult question for you. i'm going to ask it anyway. if you could live without one of two men, your husband or jack, who would it be? >> translator: i have had my husband for 18 years. four kids with him. i'm extremely happily married woman. i rather be without jack and keep my husband. thank you very much. >> you are out, jack. >> jack, you know what you should do? leave the set now. then you will change your mind. >> people keep asking me that question. there is a relationship you have as an interpreter. i hope that this show, people
that need an interpreters, it is not an advantage. it is accessibility, the ramp, the braille, the interpreter. i'm glad the show and producers were kind enough to highlight that. they were very, very accommodating when it came to understanding the role of an interpreter. they got it like that. it is like two plus two equals four. they got it. they made it work. >> how do your children do with it? >> translator: my celebrity or deafness? >> deafness, sign language. >> translator: they don't know any other way. they were born into a -- a family where the mother is deaf. >> they do the sign language? >> translator: they sign if they feel like it. >> if they don't want to listen to their mother, then don't bother. >> translator: i can't -- that's actually a good point. they -- they can see my sign language. i have to be careful when i'm talking. when they go to friends house was hearing parents, how did it feel? how did it feel? people that can hear? no big deal.
just different. that's all. that's what it is. mom is this way. their parents are this way. that's what they were born into. >> middle of all of this, donald trump was -- rumored to be planning a run for the presidency. what do you think president trump would have been like in this country? >> i would have liked to have seen him in a debate. i'm disappointed i don't get to see him in a debate. he has autonomy in his business. he runs the trump organization. i really wanted to see him go head-to-head with other candidates and put him out there in the mix and see what he brought to the table. we will never see that. >> i was incredibly impressed by donald trump in the board room scenes of "the apprentice." >> that was my favorite part of the show. board room. i always looked forward to. people were afraid and they would walk and pace. i said no, no. when are we going to the board room? i loved to see the debate and loved to see how he watched people. how he made decisions. he is a smart guy that way i really -- really enjoyed the board room. it was my favorite part of the
room. >> played it like a violin. he had no notes. he had a briefing. he would just -- >> translator: he would play the viola? just kid. >> run the whole thing. brilliant. that's why i'm a big fan of his. i can see it firsthand. hours on end. >> translator: he does his homework. >> what you are doing here is like a conductor. he's conducting an orchestra. it really is impressive how he can ask a question and -- get the information out of everybody. >> both ivanka and donald trump jr. are reflections of him. they are both brilliant, brilliant people. i was really impressed. if they were my kids i would be very proud of them because to work with their -- i mean, their input was invaluable and i was very impress. >> before we go, i want to play one last clip. the moment you discover that you made it to the final. >> i will give you a hug. i will give you a hug.
so happy. happy for you. wow. >> okay. congratulations. you are my final two. this was not easy. this was a rough one. what do you think, marlee? >> translator: you know, i'm stunned. but i'm more eager to roll up my sleeves and just jump in and see what you got for us. >> she has plenty of energy. what do you think, john rich? >> i admired her since day one. i love marlee's tenacity and yet her -- ability to remain respectful to everyone. still be strong. to me that's the fine line you walk. >> it is going to be very interesting because as project managers, you opposed each other twice. you have won one. marlee has won one. you are 1-1. the final, i'm going to give you tomorrow. an amazing task. one of you will become the celebrity apprentice. >> i love the way you hugged each other there. when i was in that moment with trace, my exact -- my exact words to him were -- you are
going down, cowboy. >> yeah. well. you know. >> a bit more friendly. >> translator: no. we both had mutual respect for each other. this is the -- since -- since day one. >> let's cut the crap. >> translator: yeah, okay. >> you want to kill each other in the final, don't you? >> i don't think we want to kill each other but i want to win. i want to win bad. >> i want to win, too. >> i think neither one of us are going to tell you exactly what we are going to say. i think it is going to depend on what mr. trump asks but i'm sure you have a plan. i know i know what i'm going to say. we are going to go if there and it is going to be -- it is going to be one hell of a race. >> i can't call this. i'm normally good at calling these. i think you have -- very, very tough lady here. ice cool cowboy here. and anything can happen. beneficiary we know for sure will be the two charities. you have raised nearly $2 million. incredible achievement.
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dick van dyke has been making people laugh over 50 years and still going very strongly. now written a memoir "my lucky life in show business." dick van dyke joins me now. you are like santa claus to me. >> really? >> you are. every christmas in britain i follow a familiar regime. bottle of wine after christmas. christmas day or day after. i sit down and roaring log fire. freezing cold in england. that time of year. i sit down and watch "chitty chitty bang bang" or "mary poppins." can you still do the accent? >> i have had 40 years to lay blame on other people. i don't think i can -- what would be a line? >> pretend to be me. >> well, i -- i can't get it -- i can't leave it off. i tried and tried. and -- i had -- a vocal chord
irishman. o'malley. i wondered all the months of shoot that movie why didn't may friend julie or somebody say dick, that stinks? nobody said anything. >> it was a comical accent. >> i know it. >> have you been to the east end of london? >> oh, yes. of course. >> do they laugh at you? >> oh, yes. some people laugh with me and some laugh at me. i always -- three people were americans. everybody else in the cast was english. nobody ever said dick, you can do better. never said anything. >> what do you think your great talent is? >> i don't know. i really don't know. working under pressure, i think. because i auditioned for our -- "bye-bye birdie." did a little soft shoe. he said have you the part on the spot. and i said, mr. champion, i can't dance. he said, we'll show you what you need to know. i learned to dance during
rehearsal. >> you have always been good g about being able to do stuff on the spur of the moment. >> i have been a physical comedian even as a child. i did my impression of stan laurel. >> what did you think you would be when you were younger? >> a failure, total failure. i knew -- i had no head for business. i am lucky i got into something i didn't have to grow up. >> when i read your book, the impression i got. you called it. "my lucky life in show business." you had a few ups and downs. broadly speaking had you a great life. i-couldn't believe you had gone through 50 years in the business. i couldn't really find much evidence of vice. >> charlie sheen. >> i got over it quickly when i realized i had a problem. >> you talk graphically about your battle with alcohol. you have been clean for how long now? >> 25, more than 25 years now. >> what came through to me i was surprised by one thing.
when i heard the reports of what you were going to be tackling here, i imagined some kind of riotous drunk that woke up and thought i'm going to get a belly full and my life is over. it doesn't really come across had a way. doesn't seem to me to be a dreadful problem that gripped you president not in the like of charlie sheen or somebody. to you clearly you felt you had lost control. >> that's right. i couldn't stop. it scared me to death. i never was doing public drinking particularly. all through my 20s, i worked night clubs with my partner. i didn't drink. in may early 30s, i was always kind of shy. i found that a drink, inhibitions would follow fall and i enjoyed it. i would use that and have a couple of martinis. it slowly went into four or five. then i found myself waking up with a slight hangover. and -- tried to stop it. and could not. i had to go for help.
>> how bad was it at its worst for you? >> having a hangover so bad that i could hardly -- shaking, splitting headaches. having to go to work. >> how much would you be drinking? >> i probably -- that was -- eight, ten drinks. i mean -- i wasn't -- fifth a day drinker or anything like that. i just couldn't stop what i was doing. >> you had treatment for it. >> i did. back in the days before they had treatment centers. i was locked up with the psychos. yes. scared me to death. man in the next bed had men in top hats walking across. >> did that make you feel uneasy? >> very uneasy, yes. i lasted through it. >> you never had a drink again? >> no. and -- lucky for me -- my -- drinking machine broke. all of a sudden interest didn't taste good. made me dizzy. i didn't get that lift from it. it just went away. >> do you miss it now? do you wish you could have a
glass of wine with dinner? >> never. i miss a significant set why did you give up cigarettes? >> i had a dock tell me i had an emphysema scar. a man i didn't even know. a little east indian doctor. we don't want to lose you. sure enough, scared me to death. i stopped. >> you stopped again. just like that. >> yes. hard, though. >> we will take a short break. i want to talk to you specifically about the luck element of show business. >> yes. ♪ [ male announcer ] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people
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relax. you're at great clips. put that under my neck. okay. payit. all right. that is just about everything, huh? >> how about the baby? >> that was a moment from "the dick van dyke show" which is a role that made you very famous. you say you're very lucky, but when i watch those old clips i remember why you became so successful. i think that simon cowell always calls it on these shows, it's the likability factor. you were very likable on screen. >> you know, my wife when she said you're not acting.
that's the same way you act at home. so obviously i wasn't acting at home. and carl had the gift of putting words in your mouth. he listened to the nuances and the cadences of your voice. and i didn't have to act. i just said the lines. it was so easy. >> how important -- obviously it's important, but how important is chemistry between a leading man and lady? >> in my case, extremely important. >> you had some great leading ladies. >> i had the best of the best. >> i mean, seriously. you're right about that, that's where you got lucky, i think. >> i did. i imagine the -- mary and i would start to giggle. and a psychiatrist said you have a crush on each other, and we did. a lot of people thought we were married in real life because the relationship was so good. i think chemistry is everything. >> could you ever have imagined being married to mary tyler moore? >> in a different life or different world, it would have worked out very well, yeah.
>> the most startling thing is how old you are. >> 85. >> that's quite unbelievable. >> i don't feel it. >> you don't look it and you don't sound it, but you've made me feel very old. how can dick van dyke be 85? >> it's a surprise to me. i did a show where i danced and sang. i have a quartet. we sang for the president last summer. >> you've met many presidents in your time. which of all of them impressed you the most? >> obama. president obama. very impressed by him. >> why? >> he was so cordial. at one point my bow tie was crooked and he reached out and straightened it out for me and i said, you have to fix everything, don't you? i was charmed by him. he said, you have to teach me your moves.
i think he could do them, too. >> michelle obama told you she loves watching your old shows. >> she said, yours is my favorite television show. and the president said, she's not kidding. >> that's quite something, the first lady loves your stuff. why do you keep going? why don't you go lie by the pool? >> i've retired hundreds of times and it never worked out. >> why? >> because i enjoy it. >> no booze, no cigarettes after 20 odd years. >> i feel pretty good. >> what do you do that's a bit naughty, dick? you can't get to 85 and be doing nothing. >> i don't know. i'm not a dirty old man. i would like to be. no, i feel quite good for my age. >> you have got a fairly young girlfriend, i hear. >> yes, 39. >> that's pretty good work. >> yes. she was my makeup gal, and then i lost my lady a year and a half
ago to cancer. and she became my assistant. and i tell you, i had to have someone to care about. i've never been able to live alone. couldn't stand it. i went from my mother to my wife and i always had a life partner. and i have to have someone to love and care for. or i'm a dead man. >> what do you think the secret of true love is? >> you have to care about the welfare of the other person. >> how many times have you had that feeling? >> three. i married my high school sweet heart, of course. and then, of course, after that, michelle. and only three times in my life. and i feel very lucky. >> do you think you may ever get remarried? >> i don't know. >> you're never going to give up, are you, dick? >> no. and thank you for having me. >> it's been my pleasure. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, a sneak preview
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monday night, my sit down with "glee's" biggest star. did you meet the president? >> i did. i met the president. >> what did he say you? >> he said, hi, i'm barack. and i said, i know. and then, of course, when i get excited, i get high pitched. so i was like, i'm chris. he probably thought i was a mickey mouse impersonator. >> and i'll talk to somebody else who has also met the president, michelle obama's brother. when was the moment when michelle was dating, when was the moment that you realized this guy may be something special politically? >> i had no idea at the time when i met him. i mean, he was a lawyer. he had been a community organizer. i knew he had political aspirations. but he never came off