tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN September 21, 2011 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT
thanks very much. we begin with the breaking news to a delay in the execution of a condemned man on death row in georgia. the man the jury says killed a police officer. the man who thousands of people believe is innocent. the man who became a lightning rod over the death penalty in the united states. troy davis was supposed to die by lethal injection one hour ago. that is on hold as they supreme court considers a last-minute appeal. that is after a georgia supreme court denied a stay. just after 7:00 the crowd outside the prison where the execution was to take place cheered loudly when they heard the lethal injection was on hold. david mattingly was there. davis was arrested in 1989 for the shooting death of an offduty police officer. mark mcfail. he was providing security for a burger king when a fight broke out in a parking lot. officer mcfail rushed to the
scene to investigate and was shot and killed. 1991 troy davis was convicted for the murder based on eyewitness testimony. seven of the nine witnesses against him have recanted or changed their testimony raising doubts that have gone global. joining us is david mattingly. also senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeff, what is happening right now? explain this. the state won't go forward with this until they get word from the supreme court? >> right. what happened this morning was troy davis' lawyers filed suit in the trial court in georgia saying we want a stay of execution based on false testimony given in a hearing that took place last year. late this afternoon the georgia supreme court -- excuse me. first the trial court denied the stay. late this afternoon the georgia supreme court denied the stay. at around 6:00 eastern sometime, an hour before the execution was
supposed to take place, troy davis' lawyers went to the u.s. supreme court asking for a stay. we have not heard anything from the supreme court now in about two hours. and georgia prison authorities have said they are not going to proceed with the execution even though they now have the right to. even though 7:00 eastern has passed, they are not going forward with the execution as long as the supreme court has not acted. it's a little surprising that they haven't acted yet. they usually act promptly. but we are literally on hold at the moment. >> how does that work? it's not like the supreme court all the justices are just sitting around. are they all spread out? how do they make these decisions? >> they are. and there is a unit within the clerk's office at the supreme court that does nothing but death penalty cases. there is a procedure in place. they know when an execution is coming. it is often the case that the justices are around the world. i remember i was once with justice anthony kennedy in
austria and he excused himself to go communicate with the clerk's office about a death penalty case. this is something that they do all the time. or not all the time, but several times a year. and usually it's handled pretty promptly. but the fact that we have now gone more than an hour past the scheduled time, it suggests that there is perhaps some difference of opinion in the court. it suggests that either the court as a whole or one justice might be writing something about this case. there is -- you know, it's hard to know what's going on. but the court doesn't like to delay things unnecessarily especially when you consider what an awful scene it must be in the death chamber as they wait with troy davis strapped to the gurney. about whether to apply the drugs. >> right now there's a vigil
rally in jackson, georgia, that we're showing you live pictures of. jeff, on two fronts there's things happening. troy davis you believe he is in the execution chamber? >> under georgia procedures, an hour before -- 6:00 p.m. eastern -- he was eligible to be given sedatives infravenously. that would mean the needle was in his harm r arm. certainly by 7:00 the needle would have been in his arm. if they were following the normal procedures. so i guess they are just waiting there. i mean, it's got to be a gruesome, awful scene for all concerned. and including the witnesses which include at least some members of officer mcfail's family. >> and we're going to talk to officer mcfail's mother coming up shortly tonight. jeff, just stay there. david mattingly is on the scene. what is the scene where you are? >> well, anderson, just a couple
of hours ago hundreds of supporters for troy davis started massing across the street from the gates of the prison. and they're still out there. i'm going to step out of the way so you can get a look at them. they've been very orderly, they've been peaceful. but they have been very clear in their opinion. they have been supporting troy davis, some of them perhaps for the last 20 years. there was a tremendous crescendo of emotion at we approached 7:00, the original time of troy davis' execution. then there seemed to be a lull, a period of confusion about what may have happened. then there was a period of elation as the crowd realized -- or getting word that they were getting some sort of delay in this case as the supreme court looks at it. while they're gathering across the street, look over here. we have riot police, guards in
full riot gear. helmets, visors, batons. all of them standing here waiting and watching the people across the street. i have to tell you, anderson, in the week and a half that i have been paying very close attention following the demonstrations of this case, every single troy davis demonstration has been peaceful, orderly, and there's no indication tonight that that's going to change. but we see this extraordinary show of precaution here with these officers standing at the gates of this facility perhaps anticipating that that large crowd won't be content to stay on the other side of the road for the rest of the evening. we'll wait. we'll watch just as everyone else is doing. >> and jeff toobin, you said that the supreme court justices could be all over the place. but do they communicate with each other? do they reread research material on the case? i mean, what is the decision-making process?
>> they get the briefs. both sides now have filed briefs. the troy davis lawyers have filed a brief saying why they're seeking a stay. the government very recently just filed -- i just read it. it's about a page and a half. it's a very short response. but the justices always are reachable electronically. and they know several days in advance when an execution is scheduled. so they tend to work their schedules so even if they are not in washington, they are someplace where they can get the e-mails. and what happens at that point varies. if all nine justices e-mail back to the clerk's office that they have no objection, then the execution just proceeds. it starts to get more complicated if one or more of them has an objection. and then there can be.
telephone calls among the justices, there can be e-mails among them. if there is disagreement, things can get very complicated and things can take a lot of time. we're now at an hour and eight minutes past the execution date -- execution time. that's not a long time, but it would have been long enough for simply all of them to respond and say go ahead. so it does suggest they are taking this seriously. and there may be some disagreement. >> right. jeff, stay with us. david mattingly will stay with us as well. we'll be back with you in a minute. while supporters anxiously awaited word from the supreme court, the family of officer mcfail believe davis is guilty. joining me now is the victim's mother. thank you so much for being with us. when you hear now there is a delay, what is going through your mind?
>> anderson, i'm absolutely devastated. because i want it over with. we find him guilty after the first trial. just all these decisions they have made through the courts, they've been through the courts four times in georgia through all the courts. they've been through the supreme courts three times. so this delay again is very upsetting. and i think really unfair to us. >> this has been going on for more than 20 years. >> we want this closed. that's right. and anderson, i am devastated. i like to close this book. and we feel him guilty. the evidence and everything we have seen, that i have seen because i've been to all the trials, he is guilty. and i believe in that. so does the rest of my family. >> other family members of yours, i believe, are attending the execution.
you chose not to. why? >> yeah. i don't get any satisfaction on seeing that. i decided to stay home right from the beginning. that doesn't help my feelings and my hurt and all that at all if i see that. >> you know, obviously, those who have come to support troy davis or believe he was wrongly convicted, they say seven of the nine people who originally gave eyewitness testimony have either changed or recanted. what do you make of that? >> well, the thing that got me is why did they wait 17 years to do that? they had the chances when all the hearings and the court sessions were going on for four times. they could have been there and said well you know i don't believe in it or i maybe was wrong. but now at the 11th hour, they come up with all these recantations after 17 years? i don't believe it.
if they said i don't remember, i can accept that. it's been a long time. but not to say that they didn't think that really did happen. >> i'm sorry. what do you want people to know about your son? to remember about your son? >> my son was a wonderful person. and i'm not saying that just because i'm his mother. he was an army soldier, airborne ranger. he spent six years in the military. then he choose the police department. he was a wonderful father and husband. and he was out there to help a homeless man that was beaten to the pulp that evening. so i don't think what happened was fair. and i don't think everybody knows that troy davis shot somebody earlier that evening in the face. and the casings from the shells match those casing and then the ones they found by mark.
so i think that that is good evidence if you ask me. >> and are you -- i mean, are you waiting by the phone? are you waiting by the phone now? i can't imagine what this evening is going to be like for you. >> yes. it is hell. yes i'm waiting by the phone. i'm waiting for the phone call where they say go. she said i should hear it within the next 30 minutes. and i'm waiting for it. >> i'm sorry there's a satellite delay so i don't mean to be stepping on what you're saying. if you get that call that -- >> my family is all up there. >> your family is all there. if you get the call that it is a go and troy davis is executed, what do you think you're going to feel when you get that word? do you have any sense? >> i am almost sure i feel
relief and peace. which i need. because i have been through hell. especially the past couple years when everything was building up and we had to go to court again and again. so i need some peace. i really do. and it's not a party for us at all. he did not have to do that. that was his choice. to shoot people that night. which was one of them was my son and then the other one. i don't think we're wrong at all. >> i know it's an extraordinarily difficult time for you. i appreciate you coming on to tell us your perspective. thank you so much. >> well, anderson, i was proud to talk to you. thank you too. >> thank you. i wish you peace. more coming up as we wait to hear what the supreme court will say about davis' scheduled execution. let's bring in jeff toobin. jeff, no matter what side of this debate or case one is on,
it is extraordinary this has been going on for, what? more than 22 years now. or 22 years. what does that say about this system that is in place whether you are for execution or not? >> the system is broken. i mean, this is the problem. this is one of the problems with the death penalty. is that we have this somewhat contradictory attitudes about it. we want certainty, we want this punishment. but as the supreme court has said many times, death is different. the level of certainty we want and the level of fairness we want in a death penalty case is different from any other kind of case. so there is more scrutiny and more lawyers and more procedures in death penalty cases. so you have the situation where executions if they take place are -- can be 20 years after the crime. this is unusual for a lot of reasons. but the length of delay is not all that unusual.
and the suffering that puts on the victim's family, on the witnesses, and on the family of the defendant. and the defendant himself. it's just awful. >> we're going to have more coming up as we wait to hear what the supreme court will say about davis' scheduled execution. want to take a closer look at the case. in case you have not been following irt. we talked to his mom about the seven witnesses about the recanted testimony. we want to show you in detail about this case. that's coming up. let us know what you think. we're on facebook. follow me on twitter right now. we'll have more breaking news. also a short time ago president obama wrapped up his meeting with abas. he's trying to get him to delay. we'll talk it over with our analysts. also tonight, another high school student taking his own life. we told you jamey rodemeyer's story last night 14 years old committing suicide. he was bullied again and again.
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displ delay in the scheduled execution of troy davis. that is on hold as the supreme court considers an appeal. gary tuchman has details on why this case has generated so much attention. >> reporter: it's anything but a routine question. >> how scared are you of possibly being executed? >> reporter: but it's relevant. because the man i'm talking to, troy davis, may soon be a dead man. a jury took just a few hours to decide his guilt. brenda forest was one of the jurors. >> he was definitely guilty. all of the witnesses, they were able to id him as the person who actually did it. >> reporter: there was no dna or physical evidence against davis. the primary reason he was convicted, witness testimony. the police officer's wife trusted the witnesses. >> they were just so adamant about what they saw, when they saw it. >> reporter: but this is how the juror feels today. >> if i knew then what i know
now, troy davis would not be on death row. the verdict would be not guilty. >> reporter: what she knows now is this. almost all of the prosecution's star witnesses have changed their stories. some saying police pressured them to say troy davis did it. one of those people is darryl collins, a prosecution witness who signed a statement implicating davis. >> i told them over and over i didn't see this happen. they put what they wanted in that statement. >> reporter: macphail was working on offduty job here. he was providing security at night for this station and this burger king restaurant that is out of business. there was a homeless man in this parking lot that was being harassed. he yelled for help. the officer ran over and seconds later officer mark macphail was shot and killed. it was tragic, horrifying, and chaotic and two decades later it still is. the man who admitted harassing the homeless man told police he
saw troy davis shoot the officer. posters went up a all over. racial tensions inflamed. >> my brother decided to turn himself in there was already a shoot to kill ord ter on him. >> reporter: he volunteered to pick him up and drive him back to surrender. he said he insisted he was innocent. the pastor has never told this story to a reporter before was stunned the da's office never interviewed him. >> you're with this man for four hours. they never skber viewed you? >> never talked to me. >> what he said? if he had a weapon? if he admitted. >> nothing. and this is the one case where nobody wanted to know. and i don't think now looking back that anybody cared. >> reporter: the pastor is one of many who now believe facts be damned, troy davis is going to
be arrested of murder. prosecutors have stood by the conviction. but a number of witnesses have signed affidavits changing their original testimony. dorothy farrell is one of them. a former prison inmate. she writes i was scared if i didn't cooperate with the detective then he might find a way to have me locked up again. so i told the detective that troy davis was the shooter. and a witness named jeffrey sapp now writes the police came and talked to me and put a lot of pressure on me to say troy did this. the only way they'd leave me alone is if i told them what they wanted to hear. tried to say sylvester coles was the killer. we talked to his family members but could not track him down. >> i don't believe that coles is the one that killed mark at all. >> back with us from the prison in jackson, georgia, is david mattingly and in washington jeffrey toobin. jeff, for viewers just joining,
we're still waiting on figuring out what the supreme court is going to do. >> that's right. the -- there was a warrant today that said troy davis could be executed at 7:00 p.m. tonight. all of the courts -- >> jeff, let me jump in. david, what's going on? >> anderson, we're seeing a lot of georgia state patrol, it looks like, showing up here on the scene. there's sirens going, lights flashing. not exactly sure what they're doing here. they seem to be turning and parking creating a barrier to one side of the entrance of the facility here. we saw something similar to this a little while ago. looked like sheriffs deputy vehicles doing the same thing on the other side. it's like they're creating some kind of barrier, some kind of
perhaps show of course. but they're coming in loud and with lights on for everyone to see. >> david -- david, are these vehicles already on the scene? or are they arriving new? >> no. these have just now arrived. the state patrol, the ones with the lights flashing, they just got here. about 20 minutes ago we saw a similar bunch of sheriffs cars, county law enforcement arrive and take their positions on that side of this gathering of all the officers here. over time the number of officers seems to be growing a little bit. but there doesn't seem to be anyone striking any sort of real defensive or active posture here. everyone standing, watching. and again, anderson, as we all are as the supreme court -- we're waiting on their ruling. everyone's just waiting. >> and david, does word get -- i
mean, how do people outside hear information? is word just -- does somebody come out and make an announcement to the crowd? >> no. i assume they all have their contacts with their cell phones with the organizations that have been organizing these protests and these demonstrations all along. it is the -- like amnesty international, they're in close contact with the attorneys representing davis with the supreme court. they've got a very short line of communication. and once somebody knows, they spread it to that crowd. and word travels pretty fast. >> and jeff, how will we know when the supreme court has made a decision? >> they'll put the copy of the order up on their website. it's pretty straightforward. in these circumstances, the clerk's office gives the order to the public information office and they put it up on the website. and we should know within a matter of a minute or two from when the order has been issued.
>> hard to know if one should read into anything having the new state troopers arriving. i guess you could read it in multiple ways. >> i just don't know. >> yeah. we'll continue to follow this throughout the hour. coming up more on the breaking news awaiting word from the supreme court about the scheduled execution of troy davis in georgia. also ahead, learning about what may have driven 14-year-old jamey rodemeyer to kill himself days ago. he was bullied for years because of his sexuality. i'll talk to his family and sister ahead. the natural oatmeal formula improves skin's health in one day, with significant improvement in 2 weeks. i found a moisturizer for life. [ female announcer ] only from aveeno.
we're awaiting word tonight by the supreme court about the scheduled execution of troy davis in georgia. we'll bring you updates as warranted throughout this hour. more breaking news now. u.n. trying to avoid a potential crisis. the obama administration is trying to avoid a showdown with palestinian state hood.
after president obama met with both men himself. a short time ago, mr. obama wrapped up his talks with abbas. he's calling on the leader to drop his attempt for state hood. this morning president obama explained why the u.s. is threatening a veto on the palestinian's quest for state hood. a goal the president laid out this time last year. >> one year ago i stood at this podium and i called for an independent palestine. i believed then and i believe now that the palestinian people deserve a state of their own. but what i also said is that a genuine peace can only be realized between the israelis and the palestinians themselves. >> well, the president is calling on both sides to get back to negotiating. let's talk about what's at stake here.
joining me is david gehrigen. they're going to send in a letter on friday. at this point is there anything the u.s. can do to prevent that? >> not much. it can pressure and trying to do that. the president is making appeals to the palestinians. there are threats coming from the congress especially from republicans if the -- they go forward. we're trying to round up european votes. although the french leader sarkozy came out sharply against what the president is trying to do. but the likelihood is that they're going to go forward. i mean, all the indications are that the palestinians are going to ask for state hood recognition this friday. >> and what for -- why is the u.s. so opposed to that if president obama is saying a year ago he's for palestinian state hood? >> that's a great question. it's what the arabs are asking. if you say you're for state hood for the palestinians and now they ask for it, isn't it
hypocritical to vote against it? but the president's argument is look, if they do this, if they get the state hood through the u.n. and not through the direct negotiations it's actually going to make the peace talks much more difficult. in fact, it could destroy all hopes for peace talks. it puts the u.s. which has promised to veto this in a difficult position. this is actually -- almost -- could be a game changer. different to go from the ang anguish of troy davis to this. it would be profound if the tp n palestinians recognize -- first time they be legally recognized by the u.n. as a state. and that gives them membership in a variety of u.n.
organizations. and they can begin to put pressure -- if we're a state, you're occupying us under the u.n. you got to get out. >> from the palestinian perspective it strengthens their hand at the bargaining table. >> exactly. and the americans feel the only way to bring true peace is to have an understanding between the peoples. if the israelis are cut out of this effect, it's going to guarantee it's going to make it much more difficult. but president obama, what was interesting today is how frustrated he is. a year ago, two years ago when he first came into office he had these grand visions. went to cairo and talked about a change that was going to come between the u.s. and the arab nation. more than a year ago he promised he'd have a deal by now between the israelis and the palestinians. today we heard a very frustrated president obama saying peace is a really hard thing to get done. >> so it seems like, i mean,
unless the u.s. does something to change the palestinians mind, this is going forward. >> it does. and from the u.s. point of view now, they've been trying for days and days in fact weeks to stop this. and abbas has been harder and harder saying i'm going to do it. again saying to do we're going to do this. so the play may well did, look, if you file and ask for this we'll actually delay the process of getting the vote in the security council for a few weeks to see if we can get direct talks started again. and we can achieve through the negotiating process instead of this. so i think the next play by the united states is delay if he files on friday. >> david gergen, thank you very much. up next the latest from georgia where we're waiting on word about whether troy davis will be executed tonight. you're looking at the crowds gathered. the execution has been delayed about an hour and a half now. also coming up, another teenager's life that ended way too soon. we told you about him last
night. jamey rodemeyer, he was 14 years old. blogged about how he was bullied. he made a video talking about how it gets better. he took his own life. i speak to the family ahead. [ agent ] so your policy looks good, is there anything else? why did you buy my husband a falcon? thanks for the falcon. i didn't buy anyone a falcon.
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years old when he killed himself this weekend. he was mature enough to talk about his pain. sadly that wasn't enough. this past sunday he committed suicide. he was a freshman at williamsville high school in buffalo, new york. he was targeted by school bullies because he was gay. just four months ago he posted a video on youtube part of the better project. here's jamey's message of hope. >> and i just want to tell you that it does get better. when i came out for being bi i got so much support from my friends. and it made me feel so secure. and then if your friends or family isn't even there for you, i look up to one of the most supporting people of the gay community that i think of that i know. lady gaga. she makes me so happy. she lets me know i was born this
way. that's my advice to you from her. that you were born this way. now just hold your head up and you'll go far. because that's all you have to do. just love yourself and you're set. >> jamey went on to say he has so much support from people online. people were nice and caring. people that didn't ever want him to die. earlier i spoke with the rodemeyer family, jamey's sister and parents. >> first of all, tracy how are you holding up? >> pretty good considering. i think considering all the attention that we are getting for my son's message, it's really keeping us occupied. and it's making it a little bit easier to handle this situation. >> what was your son like? what was jamey like? >> for a 14-year-old, he had the biggest heart in that little
body. he was well loved by everybody which included friends, teachers, and of course family. >> you say he was well loved. but you also say bullying was a problem for him, yes? >> right. i mean, it just seems like it was either end of the spectrum. either loved so sincerely or he was bullied. there wasn't much in between. >> tim, were you aware of the bullying? >> yes, we were. it started in middle school which is fifth grade. in fifth, sixth, and seventh grade it always got -- it got progressively worse through those grades. and we went to the school and we got some help from them. he was seeing a social worker and saw some counselling. and eighth grade seemed to be a
little bit better for him. but it was still continuing in eighth grade. >> tim, what do you want people to know? i mean, what do you want people to take away from what happened to jamey? >> we're basically -- there's a twofold message here. one is the message of jamey. and his message was that people should be treated the same no matter how different they are. no matter if they're black, white, gay, bisexual, disabled, fat, skinny. that was his big thing. he treated everyone equally. and he was a big fan of lady gaga. and that just emphasized it more to him that people are born that way and there's no reason to pick on people.
and there's no reason to make fun of people. you should just accept people for who they are. the other part of this is the message of bullying. and we need to get a better system in our school districts, in our school systems to get rid of these bullies. because it's a rampant problem not just here in western new york, but all over the country and all over the world. and the bullying needs to stop. >> i guess in your own school, in your own career in school you've probably seen bullying as well. what's your message to other kids out there? >> i just want kids to know that if you are being bullied you should go to a teacher, a parent, a counsellor. and you should go to friends. you should find someone. and kids who are seeing bullying need to stop it and they need to get involved and help those kids out.
because if -- there's strength in numbers. if one person stands up maybe they can't do much, but if a bunch of kids are standing up to that bully, he or she is powerless. and if you stand up to them, then they can't hurt anyone anymore. >> tracey, i guess one of the things that has struck so many people is to see that video of jamey and to hear his voice and that he took the time to make a video telling others that it gets better. i mean, it just seems, you know, such a tragedy that in those terrible hours before his death that that message maybe was lost on him. >> i mean, that is one of the reasons -- if you look into his life, he did that in may, and from may to june at the end of school there everything seemed fine. and if we didn't have all these social networks out there, the
facebook, the internet in general that is where a lot of the bullying occurs. so he wasn't in school for the months of july and august. and 20 years ago that would have meant you didn't have to worry about bullying. but because people can access each other in numbers so readily, it just made it still accessible for people to do their bullying. so when we looked at jamey's video, it seemed like he was able to cope with it. in fifth, sixth, and seventh grade he was so much more fragile. and we had to watch him a lot more. it seemed as time was going, he was learning how to deal with it. and anyone that would watch that video would show, it seemed he was over the hump and wanted to send the message to everybody else. because he knows how he felt. he didn't want one more person to feel like him. you know, worthless, not worthy of being on this planet.
that's just how he's been all the way up until the end. that it seemed like everything was fine. >> tracey and tim and alissa, i'm so sorry for your loss. i appreciate you coming on and talking about jamey and sharing him with us. thank you. >> yes and i just hope this does a lot of good. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i hope so too. i wish you strength and peace in the days ahead. >> thanks. >> jamey's parents also said he seemed fine the night before he died. and the one thing that caused him to take his own life remains the biggest mystery. what actually happened in those following minutes. we'll continue to follow this. we recently teamed up with cartoon network and facebook to look at this from all angles. there's an app on facebook where you can pledge to do what you can do stop the bullying. go to facebook.com/stop bullying speak up.
also we'll have a series of special reports. bullying it stops here starting october 9th here on cnn. we really analyze bullying in one school and break it down and look at why it happens. coming up, the breaking news, the latest from georgia where we're awaiting word from the u.s. supreme court about whether troy davis will be executed tonight. you're looking at live pictures outside the prison. security forces and demonstrators holding a vigil waiting for word. also coming up, an emotional reunion for two american hikers and their loved ones. they were freed today after being held in iran for more than two years. crash test dummy. two million data points. this is what we can gather from a lexus crash test genius. [ engine revving ] when you pursue industry-leading safety, you don't just engineer breakthroughs in simulation technology,
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out of georgia. the execution of troy davis is on hold. he was to die by lethal injection. you're looking at live picture outside the prison where he is to be executed. the supreme court is considering a last-minute appeal. the case a made headlines around the world. protesters are among the thousands of people who believed that davis didn't kill an offduty savannah police officer back in 1989. he was convicted in 1991 but several of the witnesses that testified recanted or changed their testimony. one of the other two, one of the men who others believe actually did commit the murder. still the family of the officer and members of the jury still believe davis is guilty. once we hear the supreme court's decision, we'll let you know. let's get caught up on other stories. here's the 360 bulletin. >> the sweet taste of freedom for two american hikers released
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spending on conferences. must have been some muffins. >> i didn't know there were $16 muffins. next the latest on the troy davis execution delayed by more than two hours. [ tires screech ] [ crying ] [ applause ] [ laughs ] [ tires screech ] [ male announcer ] your life will have to flash by even faster. autodrive brakes on the cadillac srx activate after rain is detected to help improve braking performance. we don't just make luxury cars. we make cadillacs.
in washington jeffrey toobin. david, seems we keep seeing police presence and cars with lights and i understand helicopters overhead. >> that's right. helicopters have been overhead for quite some time now. in the last minutes we've seen another 20 cars coming in here with their sirens going and lights flashing. and now as time's gone by, we now have over a hundred armed officers standing at the entrance of this facility here where the execution is taking place. i don't know who in the state of georgia has been watching what's been going on here and is getting so nervous about this. the crowd across the street has continued to remain orderly. they've continued to chant. they've continued to shout their support for troy davis. there's been no signs that they've been disrespectful towards officers or anything like that. but at this moment with all
these officers here, this fresh arrival of the new state patrol officers to join the ranks of the people gathered across the street are probably as quiet as i've heard them all night. >> about how many people have gathered across the street, david? >> from this vantage point, it's easily hundreds. i don't want to say thousands because -- but who knows. from my vantage point, easily hundreds. more than that probably. >> and i mean, why -- is it just precaution? is it intimidation? is it -- what do you think? just concern about the security of the facility? >> well, they're not taking a very aggressive posture. but they are in full riot gear, many of them, and they're standing here eyeball to eyeball with the people right across the street. they're not flinching in their gaze of watching the crowd from across a four lane highway.
they are all armed. at various times during the evening we've seen them bring out big bags of the plastic cuffs they use in times when they have perhaps riots or something like that. but i have to emphasize here, throughout this last week as the demonstrations for troy davis have continued to grow and continued to get louder and more emphatic, they have always been orderly and always been peaceful. and so far tonight, anderson, there's no indication it's going to chain. >> we're going to continue to follow this. we'll be live in the 10:00 hour to bring you all the latest no matter what happens. we'll be live in the 10:00 hour. david mattingly will join us again. jeff toobin as well. that does it for this edition of 360. "piers morgan tonight" starts "piers morgan tonight" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight