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thank you all so much. >> thank you. >> piers: i love the show, i love you all, i can't wait, sunday, 9 p.m., all for us tonight. "ac 360" starts right now. piers, thanks it is 10 p.m. here on the east coast, good evening everyone we begin with breaking news. a brutal day on wall street, 401(k) and stock portfolio likely took a beating today, the dow closing down nearly 400 points after plunging 500 points earlier in the day. the s & p and nasdaq posted double digit losses, fears of another global recession fueling the sell off, key international markets opening now, all eyes on them everyone is wondering if the this bad day turns into an all-out international downward spiral. investors spooked by the messages from the federal reserve on wednesday warning of significant downside risk to the economic outlook including strains in the global financial market,s. joining us for more insight is erin burnett, host of the upcoming program "out from the" and steven moore, senior writer
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for the "wall street journal" and david gergen. what was behind the selloff, er? >> i was talking to a few investors today what ben bernanke said yesterday, anderson what is the market expected him to same we know things are weak we know europe is a very severe issue but him saying it, even though they knew he was going to say it makes people more worried, people are kind of looking for nothing hold on to, maybe for a little bit of hope, why you see this people are saying this is a rather dramatic selloff and might see stablization that isn't the same thing as saying we aren't in a real economic problem. we know that we are. >> and steven, seems like the markets were also underwhelmeded by the fed's latest moves to kick start the economisome there anything at this point that policymakers can do to raise expectations? >> certainly not the fed. anderson, certainly not the fed. the fed has been deluging the economy with money for the last three years and the idea of more purchases of government bonds by the fed, which is what ben bernanke announced yesterday, i'm not sure sure they had a
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very camel effect. i think erin is right. i think the president's message this week wasn't very helpful. as you know, anderson, on monday, the president announced there would be this $1.5 trillion tax increase starting in 2013 only 14, 15 moments away, and i think that was just a very bearish, dreary message in an economy that's already hobbled. >> david, do you all roads, even this one, lead back to the president? >> no, not all roads there is a great fear in the market nous about what is going noneurope and the euro zone with the european banks there's also some fear now that the u.s. banks are getting a little shaky, three of them had their credit downgraded in the last 48 hours there's concern about china and manufacturing. you know, the chinese stock market is down 20% year-to-date. so there are other to concerns. but a part of this we had been the number one economy, we had been the driving force. we were supposed to be the locomotive to help other nations get out of this and we are exactly the opposite, we are the caboose in many ways. and yes, it does involve politics. at this point delicious is economics that change our political scene. in this case, it is the
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deterioration of our politics that's dampening the economy and i do think that follow-up on steve's point there is a growing sense and -- in the industrial community and financial community, talking to both here in the last few days, that both the jobs bill and the deficit bill, prospect for doing anything seemed to be slipping. >> so erin, do you agree with that political grid lock is playing a role? >> i think it is a human role, anderson. the fed chief, ben bernanke is a patriotic man, a represented man. whether you think he has been doing the right thing or not, he has been doing everything he can. the fed is doing everything it k the problem is that washington and capitol hill are not doing anything. so yes, grid lock is a big issue, you look at the root of the whole problem and what really could fix all of this i know is a little bit of oversimplification, but i think a fair point to make, u.s. housing prices off 30% from the highs and still dropping, as we found out yesterday. as long as that is the case, our economy won't get better, the
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world economy won't get better, the fed can't fix that rates so low, mortgages can't go lower, people can't buy homes, something only congress can do something about right now and it looks like there's nothing they are going to do. >> step help -- >> i agree with what erin just said, anderson but erin, i don't think the problem is gridlock right now, i think the problem is at the top. i mean, i think there is a leadership problem, you have this kind of schizophrenic message from the president. remember about 10, 12 days ago, the president said we will do this big tax cut to help businesses grow, i think there was some good ideas in that plan, then a week later, says we will have as 1.5 trillion tax increase on top of that right now the parties are so polarized, the president has not really put anything on the table that republicans in congress are going to buy into. and i think that's big problem, because this economy does need a stimulus but it need he is the right kind of stimulus, not another $ 00 billion spending program. >> david are, stephen is clearly putting the blame on the president. are the republicans to blame at all for this, too?
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>> sure they bear some of the responsibility, everybody's fingerprints are over this. wouldn't have had the kind of debt fight we did had republicans not pushed that right to the limb mirkt the biggest drop in consumer confidence as a result of the debt fight we have had in years, yes, the republicans bear some responsibility, but i think what -- the sense, anderson that one finds out in the job creation community, we are looking for something that will help us get out of this what we see in washington, with he don't see any help coming, indeed what looks like -- it looks like is everybody has got noon campaign mode, all thinking about 2012. i think the president's plans, stephen attacked him, in good sense, they were political documents, not governing documents and a real sense in the country, can't you guy spend three to six months helping to fix the the economy in serious ways, like tax reform and get off the trail for a while? >> erin, do you think we are already in a recession or heading back that way? >> yeah it is interesting. i think most people would say
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yes, right, the experience that people have 25 million unemployed americans, more underemployed, would than a lot of people would say it is shocking we are a couple years out of a recession they would disagree with that technically speaking, a lot of the data we have had recently have not shown we are falling into another recession but there are some very influential people. >> george soros said he we were back in one. >> soros said that mohammed al arian, they own a lot of u.s. debt at people co-thinks we could have another financial crisis so i think the jury's out on that but one thing that really could turn the tide outside the u.s. and all these gridlock issues we are talking about really would be resolution of the european problem. if you had real resolution there i think that would be significant. that would turn around people's sentiment and sentiment really and trust and confidence is what this is all about that really could prevent a recession. >> australian markets are down. >> if we hit a double-dip recession, i pray that doesn't happen because american finances
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are just kind of claw out of the last financial melt down we had with the housing crisis. you know, if we had a double-dip recession right now quo, see this budget deficit go from $1.3, $1.4 to $1.8, $2 trillion, put us in an even bigger home the problem is we have borrowed so much money in the last three years, we are kind of not in any position right now to deal with the double dip. so it is a very scary situation, especially after those census numbers came out last week that showed declining family income, rising poverty levels as of course, 9% up employment. >> anderson there is a parallel between europe and the united states in both suffering from weak political leadership. >> yeah. >> right. >> depressing. but got to end it there david gergen, erin burnett, appreciate it. something at the end of the frog make you smile and laugh, stick around for that, not all that depression. erin's new show, "erin burnett out front" at 7 p.m. monday. >> please watch so we can give you a good lead in, anderson
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what we are here to try to do. >> lets know what you think on facebook, follow me on twitter. up next, breaking news on a shutdown showdown on capitol hill. these right. we are back here again. talking about a shutdown. waiting for a new vote in the house to keep the government running after september 30th. the measure failed yesterday when republican lawmakers wanted more spending cuts to pay for disaster relief aid. what's going on? we are keeping them honest. also tonight, we continue our special series, ungodly discipline. new allegations of child abuse at a fundamentalist school in virginia. they were hit by staff members some students considered suicide. >> we won constantly lived in fear of looking the wrong way, doing the wrong thing. >> we are brain washed, our parents were brain washed and you followed what roger will born says. ♪
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>> we are brain washed, our ni l basketball for 12 years. today i own 165 wendy's restaurants. and i get my financing from ge capital. but i also get stuff that goes way beyond banking. we not only lend people money, we help them save it. [ junior ] ge engineers found ways to cut my energy use. [ cheryl ] more efficient lighting helps junior stay open later... [ junior ] and serve more customers. so you're not just getting financial capital... [ cheryl ] you're also getting human capital. not just money. knowledge. [ junior ] ge capital. they're not just bankers... we're builders. [ junior ] ...and they've helped build my business. more breaking news, keeping them honest. here we go again on the brink of a possible government shut down, all that talk of compromise maybe just that talk. the do-nothing congress cob living up to the nickname tonight against once again. we are waiting for a crucial vote in the house to fund the government beyond september 30th, even if it passes it would only fund the government for seven more weeks and that's big
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f the vote on the gop measure failed in house last night, 230-195, 48 republicans defectsed, voteded against their party's own measure and only six democrats sided with republicans. the failed vote say some prove why congress has just a 12% approval rating in the latest poll conducted by cbs and "the new york times." conservative republicans voted against the cr, continuing resolution, saying there weren't enough spending cuts to offset the $3.6 billion in disaster relief money. decide for yourself if you think funds for disaster relief for agencies like fema should be available if offset elsewhere. the country is in tough financial straits, for sure, but the first time ever, ever, funding for people affected by tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, fires, you name it what have been used as a political women. right now that aid is in limbo until the bill gets passed. keep them honest, last week, eric captor said he wouldn't hold up disaster relief. we found this on
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>> his district needs the aid, hit by hurricane irene and earthquake last moment. house speaker boehner seemed caught off guard by last night's vote, desperately tried to to get his party on board and failed, today at a news conference, insistered this going to reach a deal and dismissed chaos in the ranks. >> gave us a committee which is now 535 individuals and trying to get 535 people to come to an agreement on anything around here is difficult, but that's -- we have known that going n we will work our way through this. >> republican source tell us house gop leaders unveiled a new
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proposal to offset the cash wanted for disaster relief by cutting $100 million from the government loan program that granted a $535 million lope guaranteed to the now-bankrupt and highly con throw he version solyndra solar company. the question tonight will this get the bill passed and avoid a shut down? talk about it with cnn political analyst david gergen and gloria borger. when you hear republicans and captor saying they are not playing politics with disaster relief funding, especially as government shutdown looms, do you buy that? >> anderson, i think both sides are going to try to make points, democrats try to do that in the senate. gloria has been reporting on that to make points off the fema thing. i think they will get something passed, i don't think there will be a government shutdown. the amount of money at issue here is actually modest, but what this has done, it was one of the thing that was a backdrop to the markets going down so much today. the investors looking and saying, my god, those people in washington haven't made peace
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they can can't even agree on this tiny little bit of business. and it is fueling a sense that they are not going to be able to get a real bargain on -- big bar gape on t gain on deficits is. >> they cut this deal on the set ceiling, we passed a bill to keep the government running known as a continuing resolution it is going to be clean, then you had these disasters, as you pointed out. the republicans in the house say we need to pay for those disasters. i just got off the phone with the senate democratic leadership aide who said to me if the house bill passes tonight with more offsets, spending cuts for disaster relief, the senate will reject it senate democrats will reject t what they will eventuallily i do is pass a
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clean continuing resolution to fund the government with fema funding separately and deal with that. don't forget, the fema money for these -- for disaster relief expires early next week. >> can anything major get done between now and this presidential election? >> anderson, hold out hope for that a few months ago they could make some real progress mork breakthroughs before the election. think that hope has diminished sharply in the last few weeks. everybody here has gotten into campaign mode and something president obama foresaw a few moments ago, vet reason he wanted to get a bigger deal in august he thought as we got closer in, it was going to be hard. now the white house into politics, too everybody is playing the game. i think there is a growing feeling that big breakthroughs are going to have to await the
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next administration, the next president, whoever it s the next congress. >> and here's what comp plic cates all of this. what really complicates it, off republican primary going on. don't forget, those republican presidential candidates were all out there, most of them, saying you can cannot even pass an extension of the debt ceiling. you have congressional leaders, republicans, who want to get something done, as john boehner felter any this process sbrurk to try to be on the same page with their presidential candidates. the presidential candidates are appealing to a republican primary electorate, which is very, very conservative. republican hands are tied by this primary. >> what is so frustrating with that seeing today, the mark the reese acting in part to this
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gridlock this is costing people their 401(k)s this is costing people money. >> cost people their disaster relief, by the way, anderson if that doesn't go through. >> that's exactly right you anderson a lot of people's 401(k)s measure that through the s & p 500 where a lot of the mutual funds are, for example. s & p 500 down 7% the last two days. some people are losing not only their housing value but now their 401(k) again taking hits. that's what so frustrating about this i have to say, not the just that the republican candidates are tying their people up and asking for loyalty. look at norm diction, a democrat, going to vote for this continuing resolution. said he publicly was going to vote for it very independent version fine congressman, he came under pressure from his caucus on the democratic side to vote against this continuing resolution to stop things. er in playing their political games toonchts
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>> absolutely on both sides. why do you think the democrats want to separate out the money for fema? because then they can say that the republican reasons don't want to fund disaster relief. >> just games, back and forth. >> terrible. >> just games. >> david gergen, gloria borger, appreciate it. ahead today, a busy day in the leadup to the trial of dr. conrad murray charged in the death of michael jackson. the battle on to choose a jury l they get the job done by tomorrow? a new and disturbing report in the ungodly discipline series. a fundamentalist baptist school in indiana, hear from former students and the pastor who runs the school, ahead. [ male announcer ] every day, thousands of people are choosing advil. my name is lacey calvert and i'm a yoga instructor. if i have any soreness, i'm not going to be able to do my job. but once i take advil, i'm able to finish out strong. it really works! [ laughs ] [ male announcer ] make the switch. take action. take advil.
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dramatic testimony into whether seaworld orlando should be held responsible be in the death of one of its animal trainers. dawn branch cho drowned by tillicum last year.
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it wasn't the first time that tillicum had showed signs of aggression. david kirby has about in the courtroom for the hearing, the aught over "death at seaworld." he joins us live from orlando. so david, during today's hearing, dawn brancheau's spotter testified about the way he remembered seeing this whale, tull couple, pull call into the water before ultimately killing her. what did he say? >> his story was different than what he told the orange county sheriff's office. this story keeps evolving over time. initially, she fell in and drowned, then told pulled in by her pony tail. today, his story changed a little bit, said that dawn was like on her back in the water doing what's called a layout with tillicum, gets on his back, lining the back together, then said dawn got up on her niece and then he said the next thing he saw was dawn pulling at her ponytail. well, under cross-examination from john black, the osha attorney, jan admitted that dawn was lying in the opposite
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direction, so he couldn't actually see her hair. he just assumed that it went into tillicum's mouth. of course, his testimony completely contradict what is other people have said, including a sworn witness earlier this week, a former nypd officer who said that call was pulled in by her arm. he stayed looked like she was getting a left happened turn signal as she went in. now, jan works for the fbi so he is a credible witness as well. so -- >> what is the significance of all of this? why do the details matter so much? >> well, the initial belief was that seaworld was going to try to blame this on dawn and say that she never should have been in that position and never should have let her ponytail flow into tillicum's mouth. we have now had had four witnesses, seaworld employees testify that dawn did nothing wrong, where she was and what she was doing was completely approved by seaworld f seaworld wants to stick with what's called the ponytail defense, osha has now countered that, too
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there was another erepresent where a woman was pulled in by her clothing and decided that they needed to desensitize the whales to not just cloth bug also hair and other objects. >> a killer whale in 2006 showed aggressive behavior what did the woman say? >> she was he did at the slide out area the young whale, named ike, that is his nickname, grabbed his leg, i believe wounded her, gave ike a signal to open his mouth, fortunately, she did. got out of the pool, a medic was called, treateded on sight, i think the injure police fairly minor. sat down with her supervisor and they list ed the incident in th incident report. today sks it was made that that incident never made it into the incident log.
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seaworld said they only had 99 incidents, we have now heard of maybe five, six, seven, ten more incidents that happened that never got put into the log. >> the question underlying all of this should the whales be in captivity like this and about being in the small people in the wild, go for miles in straight lines, just swimming round and round and round their entire lives stuck in these pence. does that make them more aggressive? i guess is that the underlying question here. >> spoken to scientists who told me they do believe it does, signs the animals are stressed out. today, the government's witness, dr. david duffis from british columbia had a slightly different take, very interestininteresting agreg is part of bag predator, these are top predators erik involve successful aboutly because they are aggressive is. it wasn't the stress in captivity but the sheer proximity. we don't get up close with
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killer whales in the wild, but only at seaworld. >> thanks good to talk to you tonight. up godly discipline, beating kids in the name of god, a practice we started looking the a month ago in a boarding school. one case result in the tragic death of 75-year-old girl, not a boarding school but a family. now gary tuchman has uncovered allegations of abuse at another school, religious school in indiana. first, eye shah sesay has more. a disturbing discovery in libya. anti-a gadhafi forces took cnn crews to warehouses containing barrels and bags of yellow powder marked radioactive. not confirmed the material is, in fact, radioactive. authorities say libya under moammar gadhafi was stockpiling yellow cake, a form of uranium that can be used for nuclear purposes. in a speech at the united nations, iran's president, who has denied his country is developing nuclear when importance blamed the united states for many of the world's
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problems. mahmoud ahmadinejad made dispar ranning remark about the holocaust. delegates from france, germany, the uk and the u.s. all walked out. wimauma of the lawyers represent drug conrad murray charged in the death michael jackson thinks jitter for the trial will be seated by tomorrow afternoon. opening statements are set for next tuesday. that satellite expected to fall to earth tomorrow afternoon, the federal aviation administration today issued a warning for pilots, calling it a potential hazard. nasa has said it poses no minimal risk, though they have also said, anderson, not quite sure where the pieces will land. those that do reenter. yeah. >> l i will be looking up. time for the shout, we found this on youtube under jedi cats why we were looking under jedi cats, we are not sure. enough to make us look. kind of hokey, maybe nerdy. some impressive editing. mate force be with you, little jedi kitties. watch.
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>> as trekkies would say at that point in time, they would go -- it goes on, go live long and prosper. >> you are a trekkie, respect you? >> i am picking up an attitude or a tone with that. >> say that with nothing but admiration and respect. curiosity. >> from the guy who kept a snake as a kid. >> by the way, that was star wars, not "star trek." >> i know that was "star wars," saying while we are getting all nerdy. >> do you even know what "star wars" and "star trek" are? did they have that wherever you grew up in britain? >> yeah. where i grew up. yes. >> did they dub it? the queen's english? >> lord vader. you are scary r >> darth vader. all right. eye shah, much more serious
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stuff ahead, telling you about the 14-year-old boy who killed himself on sunday. his family says he was bullied to death. tonight, reports that a criminal investigation has been opened to see whether the kids who bullied him may be charged with morassment or hate crimes, the latest on that and our continuing series, ungodly discipline. allegations of child abuse at a school in indiana. some students say they are hit and humiliated by staff members. >> basically told me to bend over and said pull down your pants, i looked, i kind of hesitated, to me it doesn't sound right, even to a kid. run more smoothly by helping remove deposits and cleaning up intake valves. so when you fill up at an exxon or mobil station, you can rest assured we help your engine run more smoothly while leaving behind cleaner emissions. it's how we make gasoline work harder for you. exxon and mobil. ♪ hush, little baby
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punishment guided by teachings in the bible. take a look. >> rubbing the spaghetti all over your head, you shouldn't have done that at 7 years of age. >> okay. that hurts and i'm 50. >> but any marks on you. >> no, but you would hit a
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5-year-old like that? >> yeah. sure. >> the pearl's book was found in a fundamental list home in california where authorities say a couple in the name of god beat their kids regularly and so brutally, they beat their 7-year-old adopted daughter to death. both serving prison sentences. what we found looking into cases like these is child abuse in the name of religion is not isolated a happiness not only in private homes but sometimes in schools as well. gary it tuckman reports tonight on a school in indiana that is facing accusations that are had hard to comprehend. >> reporter: roger is a powerfulman, extremely inflew whens in fundamentalist circles. he believed the bible is the world of god. >> reporter: there is a church and college. he has led families for four decades.
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you said children are born depraved they can born liars, they have to be trained to be good. do you still believe that? >> yes. the bible says all have sipped and come sort of the glory of god. >> reporter: bible also says he who spareth the rod hath his son. >> my philosophy is three salts. it should sting but not hurt. >> reporter: it is not considered an unusual philosophy among some in the fundamentalist baptist community. corporal punishment does remain legal in many of the nations schools, but these former students are now speaking out, saying what they endured was beyond, way beyond, anything taught in the bible. how many of you have had suicidal thoughts? that is every one of you. >> we constantly lived in fear of looking the wrong way, doing the wrong thing. >> we are brainwashed, our parents were brainwashed. and you followed what roger said. >> reporter: these former students said the pastor did some of theth hit bug most done by his staff.
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allison lavery was in grade school when she says the principal came into her class to paddle her. >> woe call you to the front, they would have pulled a chair out, bend over, grab the chair, tells to you look at that lunch pail and he would pull the paddle up and so tall it prak thick touched the ceiling and he would swing it really hard and hard enough for you to move forward, woe move the whole chair forward. >> this is in front of the whole class? >> yes. >> reporter: jeremiah sousa was in seventh grade when he encount eared school administrator. >> he spanked me and the paddle split down the middle, he started back over, holding the paddle together so whenever he would hit me, it would pinch the skip on my bottom and bruised and bleeding. >> reporter: samuel bain also informs grade school when he says he got it from a church maintenance man. >> basically told me to bend over and said pull down your pants. i looked -- kind of hesitated, 'cause to me, it doesn't sound right, even to a kid, we were taught not to question people. >> then he did what?
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>> he laid into me. >> they say not only were they hit when they were here but it was done with great effort to humiliate them in front of whole class, belt them over a chair. is that still done today and do you think that's humiliation? >> yes. it is still done today. and i suppose it is humiliation but again, humiliation is not the big thing. >> what i'm saying to you is god doesn't say anything about humiliation in the bible. >> no. >> he does talk about sparinging the rod. >> yes. >> that is mentioned in the bible. >> yes. >> why the humiliation? why is that necessary? >> habit. >> i'm a minister, i'm a preacher, i speak to youth, i speak to dean agers. >> this man is a proud baptist who now lives in alabama. he says during a student mission trip to mexico 15 years ago, he was forced by a gave haven administrator to keep drinking liquids after he urinated in a shower. >> my some smack out to here, puking over and over, puking, one of the men come up to me,
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don't you puke again, you better not puke. and i'm just puking everywhere, all over my clothes, all over people's stuff. they put one of the old kids, one of the senior boys, his stuff at my feet. and said if you puke again this boy's gonna beat the snot out of you. and so i'm trying hard not to puke. they made me do that until i pead on myself. >> i have never heard that story. darcel was a lot of trouble when he was in school but i'm not saying he is totally lying about it. because i don't know. i wasn't there. >> this was something you will investigate? >> yes, i will. >> it was a long time ago, but probably worth investigating? >> yes. yes, i will. >> jeremiah sousa says he was tormented by faculty members. >> i was secretly taking piano less as soon as and they found out and pulled me in front of the youth group, called me a tag. queer. >> it got much worse. sousa says he was repeatedly raped by a fellow student. he told no one at the church
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until many years later. >> i was raped for three years straight there. and i was told it was my fault. i went and told the pastor. owe asked me if i was tooigt and giving money to the church at that time. considering that because i wasn't giving money that i was violated. >> plain lying. that did not happen. if it happened, i would be the first one to drag the person to the police station. >> and then there's lois crosby. she started fair haven more than three decades ago. she says the brutality was too much for her. >> i've actually overdosed twice. the second time i overdosed, even the doctors don't know how i'm alive. >> all seven of your former students said they have either thought or tried to commit suicide. a, do you think they are like to me and b, how does that make you
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feel? >> it make mess feel bad but i don't believe it has anything to do with us. >> reporter: but there are also these two former students. tell me your name? >> frank. >> katherine. >> katherine and frank, two of pastor's children, whom he and his wife adopted when they were young. >> i haven't spoken to him in 25 years. he won't speak to me. >> reporter: frank says his father once got mad when he didn't finish a ten-mile run. >> he stripped me down, got his belt to out and spanked me until he couldn't move his arm anymore and i was black and blue from my lower back to the bottom of my legs. as a punishment, i had to wear a dress in day camp for the entire day to show everybody what a sissy i was. >> you ran cross country. you came in second place in the race anticipated said what? >> he told me that i was never, ever to lose a race. ever. and took me down stair, lifted my skirt up and beat me with a belt. . we are did nothing but try and help frank and his sister. we hadn't planned to adopt anybody.
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>> but did you and a what i'm wondering is that true what you're saying? >> no. no we spanked frank, but as far as you said sending him to school in a dress, no. >> reporter: pastor feel his children and these former fair haven children are mall contents who are embellishing. he says almost all fair haven students are happen i but these former students says the pastor leads a church that has ruined many lives. >> i don't know what love is. i don't know how to love somebody. >> reporter: before we left, people who work at the church gave us a souvenir, a souvenir they say they are proud to hand out to all visitors it is one of the paddle these use to strike the children. it comes complete with words from the bible t say fair haven paddle. then this book verse from the book of proverbs, he that loveth his son chaste.ennedth and be times. do you have any doubt in your
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mind you're not faithfully and accurately following the spirit of god's word in the bible? >> no. >> gary tuchman joins us now really fascinating to hear both the pastor's perspective and how polar opposite of these kids and his own kids, the two kids who he had adopted. are authorities investigating any of these allegations? >> under state law, anderson, end yap nah is not allowed to oversee religious schools it is very hard to have any kind of investigation atly rhy lreligio schools. in the 1970s, the pastor and head master at the school, both arrested, went to court, the head master charged with aggravated assault and battery of a child, the pastor charged with conspire cism the conspiracy charge against the pastor was dropped. the jury found the head master not guilty of aggravated assault but the jurors later said when interview they had would have found him guilty of a letters charge of child abuse. the church consider:ed that a victory, nevertheless. >> the pastor says almost all the students are happy.
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do -- do we know? any truth to that? >> certainly a lot of happy students, we can't characterize the percentage, also a lot of loyal students and ex-students the targeted e-mail campaign not to run this story. he inferred these ten people are the only unhappy ones. we know scores of people we have got in touch with very unhappy, terrorized at school. didn't have a time to put most on tv, others afraid to talk on television. i can tell you, anderson, included every story from every former student we talked with with it would take the entire night on cnn to tell all those stories. >> fascinating he happens talked to the two kids who he had adopted. >> that is a horrifying story for everybody, to be honest with you, all means, we think you love those children, the children loved him but they haven't talked in a quarter century. >> gary tuchman, fascinating report. appreciate it. update on a different kind of child abuse, teenaged bullying, a story we have been following all week. 14-year-old jamey rodemeyer, buffalo exnew york, took his own life sunday after online
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investigation into jamey's sued we have details of the u.s. in somalia tonight, word of potentially devastating health crisis linked to the famine certain cases of cholera and diarrhea n mogadishu in one hospital alone, more than 6,000 catess have been reported since january. children face the greatest risk. a lawsuit seeking an undies closed amount blasts the federal government for failing to monitor convicted sex offender, fill lap garrido. the suit was filed by jaycee dugard, 11 years old when kidnapped by garrido and his wife and held captive for 1 years in a hipped backyard compound. garrido was on parole at the time. and a bright spot on the job horizon.
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toys "r" us says it will add more than 40,000 workers nationwide for the upcoming holiday shopping san. hiring for a range of retail positions has already begun. those are the headlines, now back to anderson. tonight in the connection, blind drivers, i bet that is something you never expected to see on the road, a virginia tech researcher has designed a high-tech car that he hopes will make that possible one day. here is tom foreman. >> okay. let's go for a drive. here we go. >> reporter: on the campus of virginia tech -- >> i will tell you this is a very disconcerting experience. >> reporter: in a parking lot near the stadium. >> driving like a improvement >> i don't think like a improvement. >> reporter: you're watching a minor miracle that's me driving. yes, i am blind folded and no, my passenger, dr. dennis hung is not worried, because he and his students built this car to prove a point. you don't have any doubt in the world that blind people can drive? >> i believe so. >> reporter: back up.
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what was that? blind people can drive? >> i believe so. >> reporter: the connection that led to this conviction came when dr. hopping's acclaimed robotics lab here hooked one with the national federation for the blind. at first, he assumed what the federation wanted was a robot-driven car but they said, no, a blind driver had to be in control. >> obviously, the driver can not see the car seat, the car needs to see for the driver we use the laser range finders. >> reporter: his team installed laser range finders, cameras, gps, a massive computer in the back of an suv. >> ready? >> reporter: and as they began testing for everything prom speed control to crash avoidance, he listened and listened to what the test drivers told him. >> i think one of the biggest secrets for our success was that we worked with the blind. >> reporter: the result? a car that electronically watches the road and feeds the driver a stream of information through a simple pair of buzzing
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gloves and a pad on the seat. so, all of these signals are actually coming from the car itself? >> yes. the vibrations in your knuckle tells you how to steer the vehicle. and the vibration that you feel from the seat and the patterns tell you the speed of the vehicle that you're operating. >> reporter: testing is kept to about 25 miles a hour in controlled environments for now, but hung believes in just 15 years with many refinements, one of these vehicle does truly be ready for the open road. >> i'm so happy. >> reporter: taking blind drivers to a place where limitations end and limitless begins. tom foreman, cnn, blacksburg, virginia. coming up, rem has broken up and some of us are really broken up about it the rid dick list is next. ♪ ♪ ♪ when the things that you need ♪ ♪ come at just the right speed, that's logistics. ♪
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time now for the "ridiculist." tonight it is with heavy hearts, we have to add one of the greatest bands of all times because after 31 years and 15 albums, rem has broken up. bob searing around the silver bullet band, still touring. just sailing. i wanted to spare you it's the end of the world as we know it reference, for legions of fans it feels that way, certainly the end of an era. rem posted a message only their website yesterday. we were in denial all day yesterday. the message says the as life long friends and co-conspirators, they have decided to end the band. "we walk away with a great sense of gratitude, finality and
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astonishment at all we have accomplished to anyone who has ever felt touched by our music, our deepest thanks for listening." just like that with sincerity, humility and appreciation, rem basically dumped us to on a post-it know. i got say rem this seems like it came out of nowhere. speaking for the fans, comment you have given us a chance to change your mind? ♪ 1983. bassist mike mills writes on the website there hasn't been any falling out among the band members, the time feels right to say good-bye. basically, the it's not you it's me speech. look, i get it. most beautiful from up, 1998. guitarist peter buck writes an
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unbelievable gift being part of fan's lives and see us again. still want to be friends with us that is great. we can work it out, all go to counseling or something maybe. ♪ orange crush, rem live 2005. from theman michael stipe says the skill in attending a party is knowing when it is time to leave, which, yes, i suppose their prerock give, giving us great music from three decades no farewell tour? not even one last show? maybe if we just called them a whole bump of times late at night, leave a whole bump of tearful, pleading, increasingly desperately sounding messages on the answering machine, pain they will come back. i that is the best way to handle this.
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♪ >> 1992. only allowed to play a little of each song. believe me, could have done it the whole "ridiculist" would have been me sitting here, songs play, the 360 staff members, who shall go unnamed, weeping in the background. they started now the athens gas gharks 1980 before the youtube, the i tubes, before the auto tune, earned their fans the old-fashioned way, making great music, constantly writing and honing their sound, getting in a van and hitting the ground. some credit the band with creating college rock, creating alternative music. the fans, r are em has been nothing short of a sound track to life, starting their formative years and continuing all the way into middle age. thankfully that soundtrack leaves wuss a whole pile of songs to help us get through this thanks for the awesome breakup mix tape, rem. let us know when is there a reunion tour there will be a reunion tour, right? that's it for 360. "john king, usa" starts now. see you tomorrow.


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