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they can in order to -- >> and we lost your audio. >> reporter: -- keep everything as clear as possible. >> we're losing your audio. the story of "american sniper" starts now. the following is a cnn special report. >> the biggest weekend ever for a film in january. "american sniper". >> the greatest war movie of our time. >> $300 million. >> hopefully we can educate those of us who aren't really familiar with the plight of a soldier and a soldier's family. >> he knew he was serving a purpose. he knew he was saving lives. >> did he tell the whole truth? >> a propaganda film that is as authentic as dirty harry. >> he called film makers cowards. >> he was a protector. always has been from the time we were little.
>> american sniper's success will impact jurors. good evening. i'm alison cam rot at that. >> the main reason is possibly the man at the center, former navy seal sniper chris kyle. his war experience clearly resonating with million, and not just americans. but the iraq war is one of most unpopular conflicts in recent memory. so without all the film's success, it is not without controversy. all of this is worth a deeper look because "american sniper" has quickly become more than a movie. >> i just want to get the bad guys. >> the american movie that has become a national moment. >> i'm ready.
>> clint eastwood's american sniper has already raked in six oscar nominations including best actor for bradley cooper and almost $300 million, making it the highest-grossing war film ever. it's chris kyle's story, the man known as the deadliest sniper in u.s. military history. over 160 confirmed kills. >> do you ever think that you might have seen things or done some things over there that you wished you hadn't? >> oh, that's not me, no. >> what's not you? >> i'm just protecting my guys. the thing that haunts me are all the guys that i couldn't save. >> and it is the story of what battles were fought by kyle and others after the war that may be deepening the film's impact. >> called snipers cowards.
>> controversy has followed kyle. and some say the movie paints a largely rosie picture of america's invasion of iraq. >> don't pick it up. >> fuel to the fire came in the familiar form of michael moore who galvanized military supporters with this tweet "my uncle caught by sniper in world war ii ". was chris kyle a hero or coward? >> the very freedom that michael moore has is a gift given to him by god and protected by a strong military. >> this one is just american hero. he is a psychopath patriot, and we love him. >> moore later clarified on facebook he hadn't been referring to the movie specifically in his tweets. >> you're home? what are you doing?
>> i guess i just needed a minute. >> but there is a larger dynamic at play. sniper explores ptsd, a largely underrepresented and underserved reality, facing america's fighting men, women, and their families. >> it's about the struggles that people go through being at home and being at war because more military vets are coming back because of medical advancements and we have to take care of them. >> kyle was killed by eddie ray routh while the two were at a texas gun range. his murder trial is set to begin this week, a reminder of the human toll at the heart of this blockbuster. it's a truth as real as the enduring pain kyle's family still feels over his death. >> it's sort of a picture of humanity and what we go through when we fight for something we believe in and are affected by it and then have to fight to
find our way back to each other. >> so who was chris kyle? >> let's bring in jeff kyle, chris's brother and a u.s. marine. scott mccuen and co-author of american sniper and james "spider" marx. thank you so much for being here. i just saw the movie yesterday. it is so powerful, so affecting, and it's impossible not to think that your brother was such an appealing guy. what did you think about bradley cooper's depiction of your brother? was he just like that? >> cooper did a really good job. i think he captured most everything about chris and put it in the movie. >> your brother was better lookin', let's be honest. >> oh, yeah. >> cooper fell a little short. >> right. >> you are a veteran and thank you for your service. there is a scene in the movie, when you're in a theater and you
run across each other. did that ever really happen? >> no, sir. >> what happened? you were supposed to be portraying, you were four years younger, you were having a hard time in the war and your brother comes. how was your relationship? if your brother knew that you were having any kind of trouble there, what do you think he would have done? >> oh, he would have dropped everything to do everything he could to come assist me, for sure. and vice versa. >> but did you two have philosophical discussions about the war's mission? >> we did. after every deployment, we would get together, and that was our decompression time. we used each other to decompress, and we talked about our missions and about everything that was going on and helped each other through everything. >> scott, i want to bring you in. this movie has broken all sorts of records. it is aba n bonanza. why do you think it has struck
such a chord with the american public? >> i want to say first of all, jeff, it's nice to see you. your brother really loved you and respected you and made it clear you were an important part of his life. that scene in the movie was not from the book, as you know, but he'll have my discussions with jason about that later. yeah, i think it's broken all records because of the fact that it really breaks down the experience of hundreds of thousands of troops that have been to battle for this country for the last 13 years. a lot of people don't realize it, but we've had back to back deployments by chris and jeff and others for almost 14 years now in afghanistan and iraq. and what we wanted to tell was not just the story of chris but all americans and families who have gone to war, come home and dealt with the deployments and the things that you have to deal with, with your family.
i think it struck a nerve with a lot of people, not just because chris was a patriot and amazing individual, but because it's an experience that all of america's gone through and a lot of people know a lot of people who have been through very similar things. >> and it's a reality that you can't repeat enough. >> general, the statistic of you sending him off on the mission or not, tell us about the man and you echo what scott says that there are a lot of soldiers who fit this movie. >> there are an immense number. i did not know chris kyle, but i knew thousands of chris kyles. it was the gas/oil platform on the northern gulf, and we had to secure that. our concern certainly, was that saddam was going to set it afire. so the seals had that mission and chris was on that team. so this was very personal in a
whole bunch of ways. it's quite an amazing story, because what i think it does is it grabs the viewer and puts him and her in this rather fullsome experience of combat and the in and out of combat. you're back home and how do you achieve some degree of normalcy, and clearly chris struggled with it. and i would argue that most veterans do when they come back from combat. you're so deep and narrow and the complications of living have been pushed aside and the real heroes are your brides at home and your family members who have to deal with all of that while you fulfill your mission. >> jeff, you're nodding along as you listen to general marx's comes. -- comments. >> he was just like the rest of us when he came back. it took a toll on him. to the outsider, you couldn't tell, but to the family and to
his close friends and teammates, yeah. you know, because we all know. we've been there. we know what he's struggling with. and, you know, we could tell. >> did it help you with each other? like, you may not want to deal with what was inside you, but you saw it in him and vice versa, as brothers? >> yes, and like i said before, we would discuss everything after each deployment, and we would compare how each other's deployments were and would decompress, and i think that would help us get through our next deployments. >> there's this really affecting moment in the movie where another soldier tries to thank your brother for saving his life. let's just play a little clip of that. >> are you chief chris kyle? >> yes, sir. >> my name is mads. we met in fallujah, you saved my life. >> i did? >> yes, sir. we were stuck in a house until you came in with first marines.
you were the one who carried me out. >> well, the marines saved our ass plenty of times. how are you? are you holding up? >> yes, sir. i'm just grateful to be alive. >> the movie makes it seem as if that's an uncomfortable moment for him. he doesn't really want to be thanked. >> it was. he wasn't doing it for the thank yous. he did it because he cared about each and every one of the americans over there. and, you know, about the citizens over there. you know, so he wasn't doing it for all the publicity. he wasn't doing it for the thank yous. he wasn't doing it to earn the name the legend. he did it because he actually cared. and that's what his whole mission was. >> scott, one of the challenges for you, when you're writing the book is nobody sees themselves the way others do. and what was it do you think that chris kyle had to accept in the process of doing his story with you about himself that he may not wanted to ascribe to
himself. what qualities did you have to convince him that yes, this is you? >> well i think that chris was very unassuming and really not even the type of guy that would want to tell his stories outside of the fact that his teammates and everyone else expressed to me that this guy really was an amazing story. and chris got into it and started telling the different things that had taken place during his deployments, and particularly in fallujah and ramadi, where it was such a difficult time, not only for chris, but the seals and the marines, such as jeff, because it was really a mess. and these guys were dropped into the middle of a firefight every day. and they really were living every day almost like a normandy or an iwo jima or something of that nature, because it was firefights that were constant, day after day after day. and i was amazed when i heard it and said chris, i think this is historical, beyond the fact that you have the most confirmed kills in united states history. what you guys went through, and
what you lost with the loss of, you know, ryan job and mark lee should be told. and as far as history is concerned, this is our times, you know, battle of normandy beach or battle to take the mountain at sar bauchy or whatever else. and i felt like it was that historical, and i really tried to get him to talk about it even more because i felt it was something that really generations to come should know about this generation of war fighter where patriots such as chris and the rest of those that fought for this country. and i'm really happy that i was effective in finally getting hill to do it and tell his story, because the whole coming home and the family thing started later. it started out first to be a story about his experiences with the men on s.e.a.l. team three charlie and the others that he fought with from the marines. and i feel like it was very important that we got that down. >> scott, jeff, stick around, if
you would, general marx, thanks for being on and your service and expertise. thank you. >> my pleasure. thank you, guys. >> we're talking about chris kyle and who he was. so you have a better handle of that. what mattered to home to him, especially when he came home. we're going to tell you about that and why he cared so much. ♪ [ male announcer ] you wouldn't ignore signs of damage in your home. are you sure you're not ignoring them in your body? even if you're treating your crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis, an occasional flare may be a sign of damaging inflammation. and if you ignore the signs, the more debilitating your symptoms could become.
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hurt locker made $17 million, because it was a little ambiguous and thoughtful. and this one is just american hero. he's a psychopath patriot, and we love him. >> "american sniper" glorifies war or tells one man's truth. >> we're joined by chris kyle's brother. and we're also joined by shawn parnell and "new york times" best selling author of "outlaw platoon." jeff, are you surprised by some of the controversy and push back that the movie's had? >> not at all. there's always going to be nay sayers out there. it doesn't matter who it is. doesn't matter if it's chris or somebody else.
they are always going to say something derogatory about somebody else. we did what we did for them to be able to. >> right. >> talk their trash. so you're welcome. >> so you go with the haters are going to hate, and you give them that right by fighting for their freedom. let he ask you a little different take on it. you are over there doing the mission. this is what you're told to do. nobody asks you if you want to did the mission once you volunteered. nobody asked you to discuss the merits. do you think that's lost a little bit in this when people criticize the war, how we got into it, how long. >> i think that's absolutely the case. if you watched "american sniper", and you saw a political commentary on the iraq war or a failed study on weapons of mass destruction. that was a window into the heart of an american fighter.
it focuses on the battlefield and at home. and that makes it easier for people to understand what it's like for veterans to kol home. >> do you think this is a pro-war movie? an anti-war movie? what is the message? >> well, what i like about it is the fact that you can't really tell. and it's just reality. and that's what clint and bradley and jason hall did such a good job of, is you leave it for what it is. it's the truth. it tells the truth about the american experience and the soldiers' experience, and i wouldn't categorize it as anything more than to say if you're going to send our men and women to battle in foreign lands, then you better expect that there's going to be casualties taken, and you better give them the resources to fight and win the wars. all i can say is that chris, and what clint did with his story is to tell you this is what goes on. so, america, we need to fight and defend this country, and if you're going to do it, then just be real about what happens when
you do do it and give the men and women the resources to fight the battles. >> and you have to be real with the perspective on it. maher is doing what he does. psychopath is not just inaccurate, but it as certainly insensitive. let's focus on chris's own words. put up what he said and i want some context from those who knew him. this is obviously about the number of kills. the number is not important to me, i only wish i had killed more. not for bragging rights, but because i believe the world is a better place without savages out there taking american lives. people could take that as all iraqis are savages. see, he's a bigot. do you think that's a fair reckoning? >> no. it doesn't matter what war you're in. yes, our era, they were iraqis or afghanis. so yes, you have to have a certain hate for those people,
because they're trying to kill you. if you don't have that certain hatred for them, you're not going to come home. any other war, the vietnam war, those men over there, they had a hatred for the vietnamese. and they had to. that's just what we do. >> exactly. and i don't think chris was referring to the iraqy people there. i think he was referring to the people we face. they are. and when i was in afghanistan, jeff was deployed to iraq. we fought against people who threw grenades into the cradles of new born babies. an enemy that didn't want women to be educated, an enemy that gouged the eyes out of little kids and knocked their teeth out so they would be more pleasurable in bid. and chris knew and understood that. the interesting thing about chris is that he had the purest form of patriotism and love of country than i've ever seen in
my entire life. and it was contagious, and we need more people like that in this nation. >> what was it that you think your brother would have wanted to come out of the film? >> i think the message that everyone's received. it wasn't him in that movie. every parent, every brother, every sister can put their sibling or their child in that position and see what they went through while they were in country, and then while they were who they were when they came home. they weren't their little child anymore when they came home. war changes people. so i think this movie actually, it shows that. you know, it's not just chris's story. it's every warrior out there that's ever been in combat, that's been in country and then come home. it's all of us. >> shawn parnell, scott mccuen, and jeff kyle, just great to meet you. thanks so much for sharing your story of your brother with us. we really appreciate that. >> thank y'all. >> you might be surprised to learn that this film had played
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yards out, moving toward the convey. she's got a grenade. >> "american sniper" causing controversy not only here but in iraq. the film was pulled from the only theater showing it in baghdad. >> we're joined now by liz sly. and she wrote a column about the reaction to "american sniper" in iraq and the government's response to it. she joins us now from lebanon. liz, we know that you had wanted to see the movie in baghdad, but you couldn't. so tell us what happened? >> i had arrived in baghdad. a friend of mine said it was playing at the mall there. i said wour, let's go. i thought it would be fun to see if in bags dad. we found out it had just been pulled. i spoke to a number of iraqis and interviewed them about their reaction. but i did not see it myself.
>> and what was their reaction to this movie? we understand that it got really heated. so what did they tell you? >> one showing of the movie in particular got heated with some people in the front row jumping up and shouting "lies, lies." at one particular point, and they wouldn't sit down and security guards came and led them away. and it was shortly after that, that the movie was pulled. people at the theater were very concerned that if they continued to show the movie there could have been some violent reaction, perhaps retaliation, perhaps a terrorist act, something like that. >> you write a scene of a child holding a grenade that we just played before we came into this segment. that was a flash point. why, do you think people don't believe that could have happened? what's the reaction? >> i think people, some people specifically told me that they had served in the military and an rpg would be too heavy for a child to lift up, and this was therefore physically impossible.
and this played into a sense that the whole movie was conveying a misperception of the iraq war, that it wasn't telling the truth from the iraqi point of view. and they found the whole movie, the whole portrayal of iraqis as savages very offensive. >> that's not surprising. it does show chris kyle fighting the enemy. and the enemy is depicted as everyone he's seeing in his world there in theater of the iraqis. i'm surprised that it even tried to open in baghdad, frankly. >> yes. i'm not surprised at all. you have sunnis fighting with the americans. le sunnis fighting against the americans. you had shia fighting with the americans, shia fighting against the americans. sunni and shia fighting against each other. i think that yet i think i can
see how they find it offensive. >> and yet it does wind up being a window as to how the iraqi people see the united states. from the u.s. perspective, the u.s. were liberators. they went there to help remove a despot and free a people. but what has the evolution been there of common sentiment? >> i think iraqi has a much more nuanced view of the world than america. some of them did see the americans as liberators. saddam hussein was a tie rant. butt awful bloodshed of the years that followed their invasion, the political mistakes, the huge upheaval that followed that, iraq ease no longer see the americans as liberators. they see them as a giant ordeal that they had to live with and they're glad to be rid of now. and i think a movie like this plays into the perception among iraqis that america never understood iraq and perhaps never will. >> liz bly, thanks so much for sharing the situation on the ground there. nice to talk to you. >> we keep talking about all these different themes that the
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the so-called "american sniper" trial begins this week. the defense says the trial needs to be moved in order to be fair. that's one question. the other is, will the movie help or hurt defendant eddie ray routh. here's cnn's ed lavandera with more. >> reporter: chris kyle and his friend brought eddie ray routh to the resort on a saturday afternoon. kyle had reached out to help him. the former marine was suffering from ptsd. they took him out to this gun range so they could talk and bond. but instead, routh turned the gun on the two men who were trying to help him. police say he left the scene in kyle's pickup truck and drove to his sister's house right after the murders. >> my brother just came here and said he committed a murder. >> who did he say he had killed? >> he said that he killed two
guys. they went out to a shooting range. like he's all crazy. [ bleep ]. >> reporter: routh is expected to plead not guilty in the murders. he served in iraq and a humanitarian mission to help the victims of the 2010 earthquake in haiti. he reportedly made several visits to the v.a. hospital in dallas and spent the years in and out of treatment for mental health issues. she says shortly before the murders, routh's mother turned to kyle desperate for help. >> he'd been saying crazy things and doing crazy things that were out of character long before this. >> reporter: routh's trial will be held in stevenville texas, the small town where kyle went to college and entertained dreams of being a cowboy.
>> the thing that haubtss me are all the guys i couldn't save. >> reporter: the state of trx proclaiming february 2 as chris kyle day. now the work of picking the jury is under way. ed lavandera, stevenville, texas. joining us now is jeffrey toobin and sunny hostin. great to see both of you. i was surprised to hear that the judge announced that the jury pool, anyone in it, having seen the movie, "american sniper", or read chris kyle's book is not a disqualifier. they could still serve as jurors. is that unusual? >> i don't think that's necessarily unusual. you don't want a juror that's been living under a rock. this is a blockbuster film. most people have seen it. i've seen it. you've seen it. i don't think that should
disqualify a juror. what you want is a juror who has seen the movie and read the book and still be open minded as to the evidence coming in. and i think our jurors do a pretty good job of that. >> and it's also, jeffrey, not unusual in a high-profile trial to hear something like that. but counter balancing that, for three straight weeks, every showing of this movie was sold out. so that tells you something about the intensity of interest, but which way will that play out? >> i don't think it's a disqualifying factor. i understand why the judge didn't move the trial, didn't delay the trial. most people don't follow the news as carefully as we do. so even though it's well, this is a very familiar case, there have been lots of cases involving a lot of publicity, and by and large you can get jurors who, even if they've heard of the facts, they don't have a preconceived notion about what the verdict should be. and that's the important thing.
>> sunny, one of the things they're exploring is whether the alleged shooter was insane. he was hospitalized at a mental institution before the shooting. does that prove the case that he was mentally unstable? >> it doesn't necessarily prove that he was mentally unstable at the time of the shooting. but i have to tell you, insanity defenses are rarely successful. but if ever there was an insanity defense that could work, it could be this. you also have this movie and this book that really, i think, outlines the difficulties of reintegrating into society after seeing this kind of violence and war. >> what you're saying is that the movie could work to the alleged shooter's advantage? >> i do think so. i think that we are, as a society, just more cognizant, now, of the real trauma that our soldiers experience. and i think ptsd, given his history, is a real viable option
for the defense. >> and certainly, kyle, jeffrey toobin, if not mr. littlefield, was very invested in ptsd. what's on the other side as to why he may not get an insanity verdict. >> jurors are reluctant to cut anyone a break who admittedly did something deeply, deeply horrible. and that's what's going on here. we have someone who admittedly killed two human beings and jurors come to a case like that, and they are not filled with sympathy. the paradox here, of course, is that the worse his behavior the more chance of an insanity defense. the more irrational, the more inexplicable. now you have the fact not just of the movie but of the v.a. scandals that have been going on for the past few months where a jury might be predisposed to
say, the v.a. really screwed up. they're the ones that should have kept this guy medicated, locked up. >> they failed to admit him is one of the allegations. but then again, you can have pts and not be insane. most of them don't commit violence. most of their anger is directed inward. >> i think this is going to come down to the battle of the experts. if the defense does its job which is to educate this jury on pts and have the experts to discuss these issues. maybe you don't have to see combat to suffer from this, i really think they have a good chance at this insanity defense, and i rarely say that is correct because it's so rarely successful. but if ever there was a case that it could work, i think this is the one. >> sunny hostin, jeffrey toobin, thanks so much. the battle that troops
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the thing that haunts me are all the guys that i couldn't save. now i'm willing and able to be there, but i'm not. i'm here. i quit. >> you can walk down a hall in this hospital. we've got plenty of soldiers that need saving. >> mm-hm. >> want to take a walk? >> sure. >> that's the moment in "american sniper", when chris kyle decides to dedicate his life to helping soldiers with ptsd. the trial of the man accused of killing kyle and his friend has put ptsd back in the spotlight.
>> brandon webb is a. >> former navy seal. and bob woodruff is a correspondent who was hit by a roadside bomb. i want to start with you, brandon. you were the head instructor in the navy seal sniper program that trained chris kyle. and i'm wondering, is there a particular personality type that lenlds itself to becoming a sniper? >> i think the guys that excel as a sniper have an ability to manage stress and make complex decisions under pressure. and we look for those candidates. we put them in situations, artificially induced, very high levels of stress to see who has it and who doesn't. >> and do you think that that somehow is a buffer against pts when they come home? >> i think the special operations community as a whole
has a much lower rate or frequency of guys that don't deal with ptsd effectively. especially as a sniper, we look for those individuals that have those characteristics that can deal with terrible situations and be able to make these decisions very quickly and make complex calculations for wind and lead, and sometimes even the spin of the earth will factor into the shots that have longer distance. >> but funkictioning, dealing, those two things are not very helpful. bob, you and i have taken this seriously for a very long time. what happens for fighting men and women when they come back home and how it affects their family? what have you seen? >> a lot of it is what they saw, what they lived through,
absolutely. what kind of trauma that triggered it off. and this transition when you go from this very different world of fighting in the war where you don't really know where the so-called enemies are or where the weapons are, it creates a stress, especially from these multiple deployments that all of ours that have served have gone through. but they're going through that transition, they're very close with their unit. every day they know pretty much what they're going to do. then you come back to this gigantic world that's spread out, and a lot of times you don't know what to do. but a lot of it's linked to the trauma you've lived through in a brand new world that's difficult to deal with. >> in the movie, it makes it seem as though chris kyle did come back with pts and that he was depressed and then that he found his calling by helping other soldiers who were suffering with pts, and is that realistic? can you come home and recover from pts and sort of put it
behind you? >> absolutely. there's no doubt about that. we have treatment for all kinds of trauma, both ptsd and everything on that continuum of symptoms. for many of my patients and others who have gone through these kinds of situations, helping others and feel like they're able to give back to their community and other people who might be in similar situations, it's really helpful, and it gives a great feeling of hope and looking forward and feeling like there's a greater sense of their being and what they're all about. >> you have can versus do, right? and do has two different layers. the first is are you ready? can you handle it? do you want to admit it, pe especially these types of men and women. and then whether the system takes care of them.
let's unpack that. how hard is it for someone to say "i can't handle this". there's something i can't handle. >> i don't think that's a problem. but i think the national conversation around pts needs to change to one of positive, solution-based approach. i hear a lot of complaining about the veterans affairs, and that's why myself and other veterans take matters into their own hands. we start a foundation like bob's foundation to change the way we set an example to these transitioning veterans. we had a thing, we took the way that we used to coach and teach from a very negative approach to a positive approach. and once we started changing the philosophy of the program, we saw a 3% failure rate go down to less than 3%. >> you've seen that with the foundation. when you give the resources and you make sure people know that there are people for them, resources, what kind of changes do you see? >> i think heidi mentioned,
sometimes it's difficult for people to talk about it in the beginning. that has completely changed over time. getting over the stigma. it was considered to be unmanly to come back and say you've got ptsd. am i thi. i think over time we look at it differently. a lot of us don't call it ptsd any more. >> we don't want it to be a disorder. >> it doesn't matter the kind of pts you have. you witnessed one of your friend's child die here in new york, it's the same kind of pts, and that's one of the things that's changed over time. and different ways. i think we've seen in the beginning we were really caring about those in icu, those that were just injured and then we help them when they go back to their communities, because nobody really knows many veterans in their neighborhood. about 1% of americans are serving in this war compared to previous wars that we've had. and now you're looking at
veterans helping veterans. those have been incredibly efficient and effective. service dogs, you get some of these guys that come back and train service dogs to help others. a good friend of ours has done the same thing that we backed and he's not even taking the drugs he was taking before to deal with his pts because now he's training these dogs to help some of his friends, so it's working and getting better as time goes on. >> the movie did a good job of depicting the trauma that the family back at home goes through while they're worried about the soldier overseas. what help is there for them? >> there certainly are many programs that are trying to reach out to our families, but this is more difficult, of course, because it's harder to know where they are at any given time. i think there is a greater understanding now when we talk about pts or ptsd, how trauma
can spread to those they love as well. so we are having a greater understanding about all the people who may be involved in that soldier, marine, airman's experience and make sure they're all included. as a clinician, i certainly. always asking about the family. i want to know about everyone who might be affected by the experiences that my patient might have experienced. >> and people have to want to help, also. and that's why it's important to have people writing and the way heidi is, and for the work that you do, and bob your organizations. thank you for helping us get the message out as well. >> it's great to hear about all the progress being made. we'll have closing thoughts on "american snieter." right after this break. [engine revving] [engine revving] [engine revving] ♪
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"american sniper", is the highest-grossing war movie in u.s. history. some call it war propaganda. others believe the film is patriotic, not political, and it serves to celebrate the bravery of our men and women in uniform. >> and yet the movie itself is probably not what matters most. it's what remains, the families, missing moms and dads, and what
waits for them when they come home. if you want, forget the politics of the film, but concentrate on what matters most, helping our troops. and thank you for watching. record snowfall. and worry that even more could soon be on its way. >> plus, the more reporters dig the more questions they have about american news anchor brian williams. and later on, do these women appear plus sized to you? the people behind this year's sports illustrated issue seem to think so. hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john vause. >> and i'm zain asher. here we go again. boston cannot get a break. snow is burying parts of the northeastern united states, particularly boston, as i mentioned, which has been walloped by storms in the past few weeks.