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. thousands protest from coast to coast. demonstrators demand answers in the death of freddie gray mysteriously injured during arrest. this morning, streets of baltimore are calm, but questions about how freddie gray may have been injured. good morning. i'm christine romans in new york. >> i'm john berman. 4:00 a.m. in the east. in baltimore this morning, in front of city hall where i'm
standing a few hours ago, there was a large and very peaceful demonstration. this park around me was filled with people. they were serving food and they were gathered together in a peaceful way. it was nice to see. the crowds disbursed from the streets without incident. a calmer transition into the curfew period in baltimore. small handful of people here. as quiet as it was in baltimore, thousands of people on the streets across the country calling for justice in the death of freddie gray. now this is coming as we learn more. new information this morning about what may have caused gray's fatal spinal injury in police custody. we will get to that. a new report this morning in "the washington post." i want to bring in cnn's athena jones.
athena you have been out the past few days in the peaceful demonstrations during the day and evening. last night the transition what a difference. >> another night of positive news. as you mentioned peaceful protests throughout the day. 18 arrests. two juveniles as of 8:00 p.m. no update on further arrests. it was successful. we saw a diverse crowd chanting and marching. people wearing shirts saying "black lives matter." we saw eli cummings. he has been visible throughout all of this. he was out on the streets at curfew time in the key intersection that saw destruction on monday night. here is what he had to say. >> i had my turn. what i can do is fight for them. i have to make sure that we hear them. they feel as if nobody hears
them. i think we are beginning to get that. i'm telling you, baltimore can happen anywhere. >> now cummings was out with a bull horn in the intersection telling people to go home. some of that was directed at the media. >> there had been a lot of media out there. we have news also overnight, athena over the initial wave of arrests. 200 plus arrests they made monday into tuesday here. a lot of those people have been released. >> that is right, john. about 101 that the captain announced were released. the police captain said they simply could still face charges as the police continue to investigate what happened monday night. at this point. it is too complicated to try to put together all of the documentation needed to charge them.
you cannot hold them indefinitely. >> legally. >> the governor issued you can hold them for 48 hours, but you have to charge them. 101 people were released. one more positive sign or positive night as the city tries to move past the negativity of monday night. >> you need the police to fill out the documentation to formally charge people. they cannot get the police off the streets to sit down and do the paper work. athena jones, great to have you here with us. there is new information coming from "the washington post" about how freddie gray may have sustained that injury in police custody. a prisoner who rode in the police van along with freddie gray told investigators he could hear gray quote banging against the walls of the van. this is a witness account in "the washington post." the prisoner believed gray was
intentionally trying to injury himself. this is important to note the prisoner was separated by gray from a metal partition. he could not see gray. gray's family doesn't believe it. they strongly deny the claim that gray tried to injury himself. they said we disagree with any implication that freddie gray se vrk vered his own spinal cord. mr. gray was arrested without force or incident. they are protesting that. they with hearing indirectly from the baltimore police officers under investigation. someone close to one of the officers involved in the arrest sat down with don lemon. >> what did he say happened? >> he believes that whatever happened to mr. gray happened before he was transported. >> according to your loved one,
what took so long to get medical help? >> they don't know. they have not discussed that. we didn't ask what took so long. i think the officers that chased him and handcuffed him and had him on the ground and he said he was hurting, i think they should know that he needed medical attention. shouldn't that be their call to make? >> do you think the department is racist? >> that's a fair question. are there some bad apples? yes. >> interesting. the baltimore police department all the officials in this city are looking toward tomorrow as a key day. they want to make sure people have the right information. tomorrow is the day the police turnover their findings from an initial investigation over to state prosecutors. state prosecutors will
ultimately decide if they will file charges. i want to make this clear. officials are making this clear and community leaders are making this clear. an expectation on the streets here that tomorrow friday will be a day when people are in a great deal of information. that everything happened in that police van comes forward. maybe there could be charges against the officers. that is not going to happen tomorrow and now community leaders and elected officials and police are trying to dampen the expectations. there is the notion on the streets and concern that the expectations are set too high. more news now. protesters calling for justice in the freddie gray case. they took to streets across the country overnight. in new york at least 60 people arrested in protests organized on social media. people marched for miles. traffic was snarled across manhattan. they chanted new york is baltimore.
baltimore is new york. alexandra field in the protests. >> reporter: john protesters followed by police officers for a lot of the night. it started in union square. hundreds of demonstrators coming together. they were there to express sadness and outrage over the events in baltimore. police were prepared for a large group to gather there, but they started the evening warning people over a loudspeaker that if they obstructed the sidewalks or got into the streets, arrests would be made for disorderly conduct. when the people moved out, police inntercepted them and made arrests. they walked into traffic and more people were arrested and into times square where police made arrests. tensions running high as the crowds were showing support for baltimore and justice for freddie gray. a lot of the times following in a line of mopeds and
motorcycles. john. >> alexandra field on the streets of new york. a new night of protests in ferguson missouri. dozens marching down west flourissant avenue. about 500 peaceful protesters gathered in washington, d.c. they were playing music and chanting all night, all day. we're going to fight for freddie gray. that crowd disbursed after preaching the white house. loretta lynch made her first tv appearance. she is showing support of the justice department to try to diffuse the situation. >> these senseless acts of violence are not only a grave danger to the community and they
must stop, but they are counter production to the issue here. it it is how the officers interact with the way we are charged to serve and protect. >> surreal scene in baltimore's camden yards yesterday afternoon. the orioles won 8-2. great game. look at that. no one in the stands. fans barred from the stadium for security reasons. you know you could hear reporters typing in the press box. you can hear people spitting in the dugout. it was really nuts. i was standing outside that game as it ended. it just ended and they played the organ music and no one cheering. some people outside on the streets, christine, trying to peer through the fence. a collection of 10 or 20 people. it is interesting and important to know people are saying things are returning back to
normal in baltimore. it is not normal when you play a baseball game in front of a stadium with zero people. it just goes to show a long way to go. >> that was just something for the record books. john interesting. i know on the streets you are hearing a lot about this john for the events in baltimore raising questions about race opportunity and unemployment and poverty and widening gap. baltimore is 63% african-american. a quarter of residents live below the poverty line of a family of three. a median household income for african-american families under $44,000. compare that to $60,000 to white family. decades of decline in manufacturing and shipping and shrinking population left much
of the city in despair. this figure shocked me. the unemployment rate is 37% compared to that same demographic for white men is 10%. a lot of discussion over the past few days of economists and social scientists and the root causes of the despair on the city streets. some of the trigger of the back drop if not the trigger for the riots on monday night. a lot of discussion of are you spending money on policing or is the money spent wrong? should other things be addressed on the front end and not the back end. to hear some of the big name economists discussing the causes of this, john. >> representative eli cummings is talking about that. he said let's get through the
situation, but he throws jobs fairs in the city. he wants to get people working. i went to the home of freddie gray lived last. it was 1:00 in the afternoon. there are many many working aged people a lot of men, just out an about because it doesn't look like they have jobs so these are the problems that will need to be addressed for some time. >> absolutely. a discussion that is just beginning. john thank you. we will follow the latest from baltimore all morning long. the death toll rising from the nepal earthquake as rescues play out. we are live next.
urgent need of aid six days after the earthquake. i have to tell you, this is a miracle. hours ago, a miracle rescue. a teenage boy, 18-year-old boy, pulled from under a collapsed building alive. cnn's sumnima udas is live in kathmandu with that story. what a remarkable tale five days after the quake. the young man felt the quake coming and dove behind a motorcycle to manage from being crushed. >> reporter: that's right, christine. amazing story. this was a nine--story building. he was all the way in the basement. if you look at the pictures and the space where he was hiding he was practically underneath the motorcycle. that is what he used to seek shelter. the huge slab of cement over the motorcycle. because of that motorcycle he is alive.
so the nepali police have been digging around the area for some time. they found a survivor two days ago. then this afternoon, a little while ago, they heard a noise. they started digging. the usaid got involved and other crews got involved. after a five-hour ordeal they got him out. he was in a state of shock, but good condition. the person who pulled him out. the nepali police officer said it was an incredibly difficult task. they had to dig 200 feet down to find him. he had to crawl ten feet into the hole to pull him out. the person was actually the boy was actually covered with a metal slab as well. incredible story of survival. he has been taken to hospital in decent condition. >> unbelievable. diving mind a motorcycle
managing to survive all these days. hopefully there will be more stories of being able to find people. 18 minutes after the hour. it appears hillary clinton won't have a clear path to the 2016 democratic nomination after all. vermont senator bernie sanders getting into the race. he will formally announce his candidacy today. sanders is the most liberal member of congress. martin o'malley is expected to enter the race. and hillary clinton addressing the unrest in baltimore. in a speech wednesday, in columbia university, in new york, she called for an overhaul of the criminal justice system. >> my heart breaks for these young men and their families. we have to come to terms with some hard truths about race and justice in america. >> clinton endorsed the use of
body cameras nationwide in police departments and end to mass incarceration. ted cruz fixing blame for the baltimore riots and racial tensions across the country. fixing the blame on president obama. cruz says the president missed an opportunity to be a unifying leader. >> he's made decisions that i think have enflamed racial tensions and divided us rather than bringing us together. >> cruz contends the administration is exacerbated racial misunderstandings. the video went viral of a baltimore mother smacking her son and pulling him out of the baltimore protests. cnn has that next.
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there is one family here who has become symbolic of the struggle to move forward in the city of baltimore. a teenager who was slapped in the head and removed from monday's riots by his mother. this all happened on national television. everyone saw it. toya graham said she has no regrets about embarrassing her son, michael. she insists he was doing a good enough job of embarrassing himself. they talked about the experience with anderson cooper. >> why did you go down there?
>> i felt my friends down there, a couple of my friends were beaten by the police and killed by police. i felt i needed to go down and show my respect. >> when you saw your mom, when you first made eye contact, what went through your mind? >> i was like oh, man. my mother? what my mother doing down here? >> did you know instantly that she recognized you? >> when i saw her, i didn't really see her. when i heard put that brick down. oh, that's my mother. >> what did you think when you heard that voice? >> i know that's my mother. i know it's my mother. ain't nobody else talk like that but my mother. >> and then what happened? >> it was world war iii from right there. >> world war iii?
what did you think? >> i was embarrassed a little bit until she started talking to me. she did it because she cared about me. >> she was worried about you. >> right. she didn't want me to get in trouble by the law. she didn't want me to be another freddie gray or anybody else that got killed by police. >> she cared about me. she did. cares about her son. that son loves his mother and he should. thousands across the country protesting the death of freddie gray who, of course died in police custody or at least injured during his arrest and died a week later. this morning, there are new allegations about how he may have become injured. new allegations that may shine a new light on this case.
thousands protests from coast to coast. demonstrators demand answers in the death of freddie gray. the man mysteriously injured during his arrest. this morning, explosive new allegations about how gray may have become injured in police custody. we are live. welcome back to "early start." i'm christine romans in new york this morning. >> and i'm john berman live in baltimore. about 30 minutes past the hour. standing in front of city hall where there are national guard and maryland state troopers and baltimore police on watch in
this park which is empty this morning, but was filled with demonstrators at dusk overnight. now the story here this morning is calm. the crowds disbursed quickly as the curfew set in at 10:00 p.m. as quiet as it was here last night, it was busy on streets across the country. thousands of protesters out calling for justice in the death of freddie gray. this all coming as we learn more new information about what may have caused gray's fatal spinal injury in police custody. it is an explosive new report in "the washington post." i want to bring in cnn's athena jones about the now. we have a half hour left on the curfew. a curfew that went well and peaceful demonstrations that went well. >> if it is positive news
another night of calm for the city. we did not see the tense standoffs. the peaceful protests. diverse crowds and chanting and wearing shirts that say "black lives matter." two juvenile arrests as of 8:00 p.m. a much more calmer situation. maryland congress member eli cummings represents much of baltimore. we saw him out last night as well right at curfew time in west baltimore in the intersection that saw strive and destruction. he was on a bull horn telling folks to go home. making sure that people respected the curfew. some of that message was directed at us the media. >> it is interesting to see him out there. he was here with us yesterday morning as of 11:00 he was here. he went to d.c. for the day.
came back from d.c. to be on the streets last night. he said he will be on the streets every night until this all settles down for sure. he is really trying to make a difference. athena, we got news about the people arrested. the 200 plus people arrested in the first wave of the riots monday into tuesday. >> this is an interesting side bar. 101 people were released as of yesterday. the police captain said that they may still face charges as the police continue to investigate what happened on monday night. they are using surveillance video to figure out what did what on monday night. it is too complicated right now to put together the proper and necessary documentation to file charges against so many so quickly. they cannot hold them forever. the governor allowed them to being held for 48 hours. it could be a sign of the fact that the police are patrolling the streets and keeping the city calm they don't have time to
file the paper work. that is an interesting detail. the overall picture is a much more positive night as the city tries to move forward. >> one other note we are expecting rain here today. it may be a much different type of day. not the peaceful demonstrations if it rains really hard. athena jones, thanks. >> thanks. there a new report to tell you about which provides new information about how freddie gray may have sustained that fatal injury in custody. "the washington post" reporting that a prisoner riding along with the van with freddie gray. this prisoner could hear freddie gray quote banging on the walls of the van. the prisoner believes freddie gray was intentionally trying to injury himself. this prisoner was separated by a metal partition. he could not see freddie gray.
the post information comes from a search warrant application. now gray's family doesn't believe it. they deny the claim that gray tried to injury himself. their attorney said we disagree with any implication that freddie gray severed his own spinal cord. they disagree with the report that freddie gray was arrested without force or incident. we are hearing from the baltimore officers. one family member sat down with don lemon she says to give the officers side of the story. >> what did he say happened? >> he believes that whatever happened to mr. gray happened before he was transported. >> according to your loved one, what took so long to get medical help? >> they don't know. they have not discussed that with us. what took so long.
we didn't ask what took so long. i think the officers that chased him and handcuffed him and had him on the ground and he said he was hurting, i think they should know that he needed medical attention. shouldn't that be their call to make? >> is the department racist? >> that's a fair question. are there some bad apples? yes. >> interesting. now, we are hearing two versions of the story right now. that one right there from the family member of the officer saying that freddie gray was injured before he was put in the police van. the report from the post saying the prisoner believed freddie gray was trying to inflict injuries on himself. how do these reports conflict? is it possible both are true? freddie gray was hurt before he got in the van and hurt himself
further in the van? unclear at this point. tomorrow the city will deliver findings from the investigation to state prosecutors. the state prosecutors take over the case and decide in the coming days and weeks whether to press charges. a lot of people in the city see tomorrow as a key day. people on the streets think they will find out all new information tomorrow as police turnover the investigation. officials and clergy and officials here want to downplay expectations. there is a lot of working done to set reasonable expectations. watch this space for more on that. protesters are calling for justice around the country in the case of freddie gray. they took to the streets overnight. in new york at least 60 people were arrested in protests. more people arrested in new york it seems overnight, than in baltimore. those protests organized by social media. they marched for miles and
snarled traffic in manhattan and chanting new york is baltimore. baltimore is new york. cnn's alexandra field was in the middle of the protests. >> reporter: john protesters followed by police officers for a lot of the night. it started in union square. hundreds of demonstrators coming together to express their sadness and outrage over the events in baltimore. police were prepared but they started the warning over the loud speaker if they obstructed the sidewalks or got into the streets, arrests would be made. once the crowd started to move out of union square into 17th street police cut them off. making a number of arrests. crowds moved uptown and on to the west side highway and walking into traffic on eighth avenue where more people arrested and into times square. tensions running high as the crowd chanted showing support
for baltimore. a long line of nypd officers following them throughout the city on foot and mopeds. >> alexandra field on the streets of new york overnight. the new attorney general made her first television appearance. she is pledging support of the justice department to diffuse the tensions in baltimore and across the country. she is urging everyone to stay calm. >> these senseless acts of violence on not only a grave danger to the community and they must stop, they are counter productive to the goal of a respectful conversation within the baltimore community and across the nation about the way our law enforcement officers interact with the people we are charged to serve and protect. >> never before has so much attention been paid to a
baseball game for how few people saw it in person. baltimore's camden yards yesterday. a game being made in front of zero people. fans were barred from that game. orioles won, 8-2. barred for security purposes. baseball wanted to play it. now the orioles are out of town. you could hear reporters typing in the press box because nothing else making noise. some people complaining you could hear the players in the dugout spitting in the dugout. i was outside the stadium as the game ended. people peering in from the gates trying to get a view. i hope we never have to see that again. to see an empty stadium was sad, christine. i thought they could have let kids in to watch the game. there had to be some way. >> bar owners and restaurant
owners are talking how sad it is because the curfew means people are not out. think about the people who would have been working around camden yards deprived a day of wages. they would have been criticized if they let people in and criticized for not letting people in. >> that's a great point. they made the decision for safety reasons. they said they want police to be deployed at a baseball? there was a need for them elsewhere. >> too bad they only have 16 games a year. oh wait. you can catch them again. let's talk about the protests and riots on monday night. economists said if the protests are contained and end this week the impact will be easily absorbed in the broader baltimore economy. a big economy that would not be effected too much if all of this is temporary. the same cannot be said for
paycheck to paycheck workers like john and i were talking about. when businesses close down or early because of the curfew major conferences and several have been canceled. that means low wage workers who may have been services hotel rooms or serving customers, they probably won't get paid. that can be devastating. yesterday, the president stressed how much the recent destruction is hurting the community. the family that needs their prescription filled how far do i have to drive and get prescription for grandmother. the hope is in the near term hit on the baltimore economy and not something that lasts longer we. we will follow the latest from baltimore. first, hillary clinton and ted cruz had to say the latest on the race relations. that's next.
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all right. officially a second democrat running for president. vermont senator bernie sanders. the 73-year-old independent will announce his candidacy today. sanders considered the most liberal member of congress. martin o'malley is expected to enter the race. hillary clinton addressing the unrest in baltimore after the death of freddie gray while in police custody. she gave a speech wednesday at
columbia university in new york. she called for an overhaul of america's system of criminal justice. >> my heart breaks for these young men and their families. we have to come to terms with hard truths about race and justice in america. >> she endorsed the use of body cameras in police departments nationwide and called for an end of mass incarceration in the country. ted cruz fixing blame for the baltimore riots and growing racial tension. fixing the blame on president obama. cruz says the president missed an opportunity to be a unifying leader. >> he made decisions that i think have enflamed racial tensions. that have divided us rather than bringing us together. >> pressed for a specific example of the president enflaming racial tensions. cruz pointed to the 2009
of monday's riots, that is putting it mildly she is speaking to cnn's anderson cooper cooper. she said she was not worried about embarrassing her son michael. she was worried about what led up to this. >> why did you go down there? >> i felt my friends down there, a couple of my friends were beaten by police and killed by the police. i felt i needed to go down there and show my respect. >> when you saw your mom and first made eye contact, what went through your mind? >> i was like oh, man. >> oh, man. >> yeah. my mother? what is my mother doing down here? why is she down here? >> did you know she instantly recognized you? >> when i saw her, i didn't really see her.
when i heard put that brick down. i heard that is my mother. >> what did you think when you heard that voice? >> i said oh, i know that's my mother. nobody else talk like that but my mother. >> then what happened? >> it was world war iii from there. >> world war iii? >> yeah. >> what did you think? >> i was embarrassed a little bit. until she started talking to me when we got home. she did it because she cared about me. wasn't to em barsbarrass me, but she cared. she did not want me to be in trouble with the law or be another freddie gray or anybody else that got killed by police. >> you know the most important part of what happened may not be the famous video that people are watching again and again, but what the son said. they had a conversation when they got home. it is what they talked about at
home that may be more important and where the real parenting, christine, that comes into play. when the parent explains why i don't want you out on the streets and the implication. >> and forget the national guard, send in the moms. thanks john. pope francis coming out in support of women. what about the catholic church? that's next.
u.s. stock futures after news the u.s. economy faltered in the first quarter. economic growth 0.2%. that is worse than expected. the federal reserve lowered its outlook for the american economy. the question there is it a temporary cold weather slow down or is it something bigger? doesn't look like an interest rate hike will happen this summer. the pope calling for equal pay for men and women. pope francis says the pay gap is pure scandal. he says christians have to change that. why is it taken for granted that women should earn less than men? know they have the same rights. of course, women cannot be priests in the catholic church. he made economic justice a big part of his platform for the church. "early start" continues right now. thousands protest from coast
to coast. demonstrators demand answers after the mysterious death of freddie gray. new questions about how freddie gray was injured. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. it is thursday april 30th. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east here in baltimore. this morning, the investigation, christine, is really the story. what new details are they finding out about that night that freddie gray was taken into custody. the investigation and the calm. it is calm here this morning in the park in front of city hall where there were peaceful demonstrators in the evening. you can see the national guard and maryland state troopers out guarding the city hall here. they will be here for some time i suspect. also last night, the curfew went into place at 10:00 p.m. without incident. as quiet as it was here it has
been here for the last day or so thousands of people were out on the streets across the country. protests in many cities calling for justice in the death of freddie gray. these protests all coming as people want answers. we are getting new information and new reports about what might have happened to freddie gray's spine. what caused that spinal injury while he was in police custody? we will get to the new report that is raising questions in a second. first, athena jones here with me in front of city hall in baltimore. athena the situation here in baltimore, at least in terms of the streets are concerned, seems to have stabilized. >> it does. another peaceful night. calmer the first night of the curfew. you mentioned the peaceful protests. a lot of people out on the streets. a lot of college students. people chanting and wearing