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[ bell ringing ] >> bodies lying on the floor. >> paris, november 13th. horrified screams coming from inside the theater. >> each time we meet the face of evil, we ask, how, why, young men, boys, turned into butchers. maiming and murdering hundreds of innocents, striking at the heart of one of the world's great cities. blowing a plane out of the sky, entire families turn to dust. all of it done with a reach and precision we had not imagined
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isis capable of. as the world cries out for vengeance, perhaps the most important question is this, how could we not have known? ♪ hallelujah >> the answer is we did. this is the story of what we knew about isis and when we knew it. it is a story that has not been told before, not in its entirety, told by the people who have made the journey into the mind and heart of isis. we begin with an extraordinary chance to look into the islamic state. not a single reporter has dared to venture there. since the gruesome beheadings of journalists began last year, imagine seeing this -- >> i'm the british citizen abandoned by my own government. >> and this -- >> these could be my last hours
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in this world. >> and then heading straight into the heart of darkness. >> but that is precisely what this man did. >> during the months i was preparing the trip, every night i felt a knife on my throat. i felt it physically. a german journalists, last year he crossed into isis territory. >> i think you must know your enemy if you want to defeat it. he went to mosul, an iraqi city about the size of philadelphia. population around 1.5 million. it's the biggest prize isis has captured. >> this extraordinary video
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gives us a rare look into every day life under isis. it brings to mind of evil, isis has its own license plates and traffic cops who give parking tickets. and there are friendly shop keepers. >> completely brain washed. i've never in my life met people like this. this of course is the mosul officials wanted him to say. they gave him written permission to come to the city and he believes they let him leave alive to make a point. >> they wanted to show me that they are a state and that this state is working. it's not a perfect state, it's
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not like the united states but it's a state. >> and it's getting bigger. tottenhoffer saw new recruits pouring in every day. >> these recruitment center we had every day more than 50 new fighters. they can lose fighters, they don't care. the amazing thing is that they are completely enthusiastic, they think it's the time of their life. they think that they are part of a historic allal event, changine whole middle east. >> among them were americans. >> i met many americans, i met germans and french people and english people but many americans, guys from new jersey. >> they were also american weapons. so just carry them like a badge of honor, even the children. >> how old are you?
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>> these child soldiers, 12 and 13 years old, now go to what isis calls school. >> they start a new school system which i found is completely wrong and completely crazy. but it's a system. >> isis officials charted out a few prisoners for totten hoffer to talk to. >> when did they capture? he told tottenhoffer, he was afraid. shortly after isis put kurdish prisoners in cages, dressed in orange jump suits. they were paraded through the streets and isis made a propaganda video out of it. >> it's hard to believe but
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according to tottenhoffer, there are people in mosul who say they are better off under the islamic state. almost all are sunni and have suffered at the hands of iraq's shiite government. >> instead of anarchy, they have now law and order. >> and people don't like, i ask if they like their security. so they take taxes. they take care of the poor. >> bizarrely, isis even reaches out to the disabled. this is a recruitment video for deaf jihadis who wish to join isis. kept him away from only one group. he was not permitted to speak to or even go near a single woman. >> you think i will win the war -- >> perhaps the most astonishing thing he heard from both isis soldiers and leaders, is this -- >> they want to provoke the
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united states to bring ground troops to the country. it's a clear target. they want the americans to bring their boots on the ground. they want to fight the americans. that's their dream. the ultimate fight. against americans. that's what they want. that's what they hope. >> in this regard, isis has a different dream than al qaeda. osama bin laden wanted to perpetrate large scale terror attacks against the west but did not want his own state. isis does. it uses its caliphate as a base to launch its terror attacks. the best way to understand the difference between the two groups is to go back to al qaeda's signature moment, its most spectacular attack. ♪ >> september 11th, 2001.
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19 al qaeda operatives hijacked four planes, knocked down two skyscraper and crashed into the pentagon and killed almost 3,000 people. >> the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. >> at that moment, with the american people terrorized, the american government searched for a fitting response to this attack. at that moment the seeds of isis were planted. it would take years and untold numbers of dead before isis would supplant al qaeda. but you can draw a line from the horrifying events of 9/11 and the american response to the creation of the islamic state. that line begins 18 months after september 11th, the united states invades iraq.
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>> my fellow citizens, at this hour, american and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm iraq and free its people and to defend the world from grave danger. >> yes, america! >> when the u.s. invaded, it hadn't thought much about the day after. it was very much focused on overthrowing saddam. >> here it goes. there he goes. >> what happened in the initial weeks was a total power vacuum. >> as the american occupation quickly devofled into chaos, one man seized the moment. that man is al czza kawi.
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>> the us described him as one of the world's most dangerous terrorists. >> his ultimate goal was to create an islamic state. and events in iraq were going to give him the chance to realize his dream. >> the old military needed to be formally disbanded. >> saddam hussein's military was out on street and american captured saddam himself. >> we got him. >> sunnises were out of favor and out of jobs but they had guns and organizational prou prowess, he began recruiting them. >> he was a major celebrity in 2004. he became a rock store. some of the worst violence americans saw on their tv screens during the iraq war,
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came courtesy of zarkawi. >> he was like a terrorist ps h psychco paj. >> blew up a holy shia shrine. >> the murders of innocent vifl yans and indiscriminate bombings and beheadings the focus not just on foreigners but on shiites. other muslims, tactics that today sound hauntingly familiar. >> the $25 million price on his head there is no one the u.s. want to capture or kill more zarkawi. >> the cia had been tracking his every move. in june of 2006, u.s. forces killed him with two 500-pound bombs. >> the most wanted terrorist in iraq is killed in a united states air strike. >> zarkawi was eliminated. >> it is a severe blow to al
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qaeda. >> but as it turned out, the movement zarkawi began would survive that blow. when we come back, the rise of the leader of isis, he wasn't considered from everything that we know now a high level detain ee. inside an american prison. ♪ i found a better deal on prescriptions. we found lower co-pays... ...and a free wellness visit. new plan...same doctor. i'm happy. it's medicare open enrollment. have you compared plans yet? it's easy at or you can call 1-800-medicare. medicare open enrollment. you'll never know unless you go. i did it. you can too. ♪
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desert of southern iraq. this is camp buk ka, an american prison. during the iraq war, the most dangerous jihadis were locked up here. up to 20,000 of the country's angriest men. some americans who worked at camp bucca, called it simply
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camp hell. it wasn't just crowded, it was violent. in 2005 riots broke out. >> go back. go back. >> detainees went on a rampage taking over whole sections of the prison camp. >> american forces massed outside the fences firing into the crowds. at least four prisoners were killed. >> now, this is camp bucca. >> there were beatings unexplained prisoner deaths and several dangerous jihadis escaped. into this in 2004, a new man arrived. we know him now as al baghdadi,
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the leader of isis and yes, he was in american custody during the iraq war. al baghdadi has shown his face publicly once, last year when he gave a sermon to his followers. but back when the u.s. had him under lock and key, he was seen as, believe it or not, a man who could be trusted. >> the americans seemed to see him as somebody who could keep the prison quiet. 24 camps within the sunni side of camp bucca, he was allowed open access to all of them. >> he wasn't considered from everything we know now a high level detain ee. he was allowed to lead prayers and allowed to give religious lessons. >> the future leader of isis was giving other inmates lessons on
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islam. >> al baghdadi went through a transformation at camp bucca. >> he was an average person, just a sunni foot soldier when he was arrested by the americans. >> by the time al baghdadi left, he was someone else. >> all we know is that al baghdadi became an entirely different creature in terms of radicalization and militarization and in terms of building a huge network and militants in the prison. >> at camp bucca, he networked with hundreds of jihadis, some of whom would later join sis sis and the day would come when he would also need military expertise. ent ter saddam hussein's army, many at campbucca.
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and then he was set free. the future leader of isis was recommended for unconditional release by a military review board in december of 2004. they did not consider him a threat. whether it turpz out al baghdadi is the master mind or figure head, the fact remains, the united states put a $10 million price tag on his head. >> when we come back, the dangerous way that isis is using us, television news. >> while the u.s. is backing sunni arabs in yemen, in iraq it is fighting on the ground. whatever you're doing, plan well and enjoy life... ♪ or, as we say at unitedhealthcare insurance company, go long. how you plan is up to you. take healthcare.
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>> evil just a click away, it takes no more than a few seconds to find isis propaganda online. thousands of videos are strewn across the internet. much of it, of course, is
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sickening violent, unbearable to watch. the awful beheadings and fiery murders but all of it may add up to the single biggest reason for the success of isis. like so many of what the group does, this is a terror tactic we have not seen before. and it is frightening effective. >> 20 years ago you could never find the three people in minnesota who would be attractive to the isis ideology. today you can and they can find you. >> isis has used facebook, twitter, google and the worldwide web as it's command and control system. >> but violence in isis propaganda is enhanced by special effects and editing and powerful music. ♪ >> some videos really are like small films done with skill.
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it is the barbarrism that makes these clips go viral of the no one has ever seen anything like it. most of us look at this and this and wonder how it could possibly attract recruits. but for some young men, raised on violent video games and shoot them up movies, it's a powerful lure. >> actions speak louder than words. it is it's savagery and viciousness, we look at it as horrible and evil. of course it is evil. this is part of its strategy to convince young men and women while on fringe who have no purpose in life and suffer from torn identities, come to us. >> brothers and sisters, come to jihad and feel the honor we're feeling and happiness we're feeling. >> they want killing machines and that's why you see them doing these videos and making kids watch these videos and kids
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commit crimes and kill because they are trying to establish a new generation of killers. >> it's a gang mentality. >> the gang idea is important. because isis uses it to manipulate kids. a lot of the propaganda mixes the violence with scenes of comradeky, friendship, the people in isis video seems to be saying, we did not belong where we were. but now we have found a home. a powerful message to the millions of unemployed, disconnected young muslims across the middle east. even in countries like france and germany. >> in islam in syria, i originally come from canada. >> i'm thinking i'm still dreaming, feeling like i'm still dreaming and thinking i'm in the dream world. you have to be here to understand what i'm saying. >> and of course isis also manipulates us, television news. they put their videos online, we
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put them on television. in a bizarre twist, isis turns around and makes clever use of what it sees on tv. this video is called victory in khobani, while mocking president obama and other western leaders. >> first of all rg there's no military solution to isil, military only solution, okay. >> the angry rhetoric of cable news fits right into the script. >> even with troops on the ground we've proven we cannot defeat these people. we are so incompetent in terms of conducting foreign policy and in terms of conducting military operations. >> cnn makes an occasional appearance. >> enter the city -- >> but fox news is a favorite of isis with kmeptators who demand
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boots on the ground, playing into isis' dreams of a grand battle against americans. >> i would say when it falls, the united states will look absolutely foolish for doing pinprick streaks with no effect on outcome and isis will come out more empowered than ever. isis will be the big winner and the united states will be the big loser. >> all of it is frighteningly effective, creating a 21st century machine designed for the young and built to recruit followers from across the world. >> they were raised on twitter. they were raised on youtube. they were raised on facebook. >> isis is cnn to somebody's home tv. >> these guys are very sophisticated and a whole different generation. >> in just a moment, isis and
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it is a moment americans will never forget. u.s. contractors brutally murdered. their bodies burnt and hung from a bridge. >> four u.s. civilian butchered and dragged through the street. >> this was fallujah, iraq, the year was 2004. the atrocity aroused deep american anger and brought promises of retribution. >> we'll hunt down the criminal and kill them and pass fi fallujah. >> two long and bloody battles to retake the city.
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nearly 70 americans lost their lives liberating fallujah and hundreds more were left seriously wounded. ten years later, fallujah falls back into the hands of an enemy. but this time, it's isis. >> just a few days after fallujah fell, the president talked about the threat from the terror group in an interview with the new yorker magazine. he said the analogy we use around here sometimes and i think it's accurate, is that if a jv team puts on lakers uniforms, that doesn't make them kobe bryant. >> i was disappointed that he said that. and i don't think he was well served. >> need for intelligence surveillance. >> lieutenant general michael flynn had a front row seat to the eyes of isis, led the
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defense agency until late last year. >> we failed to understand the enemy that we faced. >> flynn says intelligence officials warned the administration that isis was growing more dangerous before the president made his infamiliarous jc comment but the president has said the intelligence on isis was inadequate. >> here he is on 60 minutes. >> how did they end up where they are in control of so much territory? was that a complete surprise to you? >> well, i think our head of the intelligence community, jim clapper has acknowledged that they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. >> do you think it was an intelligence failure? >> i don't. i really look at that -- it's easy to -- i will take one for the team, you know. the president has to decide who he's going to listen to and what
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information he's going to use and i think that he was poorly advised to say that. >> the president makes no apologies for being measured and deliberate about committing u.s. military sources. >> benjamin rhodes is the national security adviser and close aide to president obama. >> do you think we should have been alerted to the threat that isis posed earlier? >> you know, it's always ceasy to look back and say, you could have been alerted to a specific threat at a specific time but the question is then, what action would that have triggered. part of what the president has brought his approach to national security is some degree of restraint in saying that we're not going to chase every rabbit down every hole in the middle east. >> the white house did underestimate isis. and republicans seized on the issue, scoriating the president, growing increasingly strident.
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>> the strategy will fail yet get. this president needs to rise to the occasion before we all get killed back here at home. >> even former top officials in the obama administration had tough words. >> it's more than just an intelligence failure, it's a policy failure as well. >> of course the solution offered by most critics is the one thing isis wants the most, american boots on the ground. >> united states now has 3,500 military advisers in iraq helping the iraqi government take on isis. but the biggest intelligence failure and policy failure and underestimation was not of the strength of the self-styled islamic state but of the weakness of the iraqi state. in the middle of 2014, when isis started taking town after town in iraq, the iraqi army
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essentially laid down its arms and ran away. remember, this was an army that the united states had spent more than $25 billion building up, an army more than 200,000 strong. that's more than six times the size of isis and maybe more. and it was all rendered useless against the isis assault. why? well, much of it can be pinned on one man. >> if you ask me, what's the most important factor in iraq, driver behind the resurgence of isis in iraq, i would say al mall plaky. >> i appreciate your commitment to representing the people of iraq. >> back then maliki's
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appointment was held a a triumphant moment for iraq. >> i appreciate you recognize the fact that the future of your country is in your hands. >> to ensure the success, maliki needed to hear the powerful xix between sunnis an shiite in iraq but he never did. when asked to fight against isis, the sunni soldiers in the iraqi army simply said no. >> for many sunnis they looked to the iran backed regime in baghdad and looked at isis and some made the disastrous calculation that isis was the lesser of two evils. >> the last american soldier left the country in 2011. after the u.s. could not reach agreement with maliki to maintain a military presence. >> the question that we asked today when people look back at
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that decision, what would we have done with 10,000 u.s. troops? would they have enforced security? frafr frankly, would we have wanted them to be fighting in places like mosul and fallujah against isil. >> republicans have criticized president obama for not leaving troops in iraq and some have said if american forces had stayed there would be no isis. but emma sky believes that was never in the cards. iraq's prime minister maliki had a new set of patrons, his fellow shiites in tehran. and they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. >> that was part of iran's deal with maliki. we'll give you a third term but the conditions are, no american soldiers, that was what iran had demanded and no way had had gone through parliament. >> one thing was clear. it was only iraq's army that could have stopped isis.
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instead, iraqi soldiers threw down their weapons and ran. >> hello. >> next on "blindsided", what drives these people and makes them tick? you'll go inside the mind of a radical. meet a man who was prepared to die for a fantasy. the idea of an islamic caliphate. those new glasses? they are. do i look smarter? yeah, a little. you're making money now, are you investing? well, i've been doing some research. let me introduce you to our broker. how much does he charge? i don't know. okay. uh, do you get your fees back if you're not happy? (dad laughs) wow, you're laughing. that's not the way the world works. well, the world's changing. are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed? wealth management, at charles schwab. ♪
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>> on the ground! on the ground! let's go. >> in the days that followed 9/11, just about everyone in the world seemed to be standing with the united states, even arafat. >> my condolences to the american president, president bush. >> but not this man. >> i'm very, very sorry to your viewers for saying this, but i lacked any empathy with the victims. >> nawaz didn't start his life
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as a radical. he grew up innessex england, the son of hard working pakistani parents, but he didn't quite feel at home in britain and had no other place to call home. no community to call his own. he read for us what he wrote in his diary after seeing the towers fall. >> don't you think we've been crying too, like you are now, for years? do you think we felt no pain as you raped and plunderred our lands and bombed our cities? >> what lands and what cities you ask? your arrogance is only compounded by your ignorance. you chose your side and we have chosen ours. >> nawaz had become convinced that the world of islam was under constant and brutal attack from the west. muslims had to fight back. his chosen army was a rad group,
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the day before 9/11, he landed in england to recruit for the group, which in some ways was a forerunner to isis. >> it's the first islamist organization responsible for popularizing the notion of resurrecting the so-called islamic state. his caliphate so-called islamic state is what he has been dreaming of since 1953. ♪ >> in the months after 9/11, nawaz was arrested. in an egyptian jail with what he calls the cream of the crop of jihadists, he was thrilled at first about all he could learn from them. but then he had a jailhouse revelation. >> living so close with them for four years in prison, i came to the conclusion that if these guys, any of them, ever got to power and ever declared this so-called caliphate, it would be
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hell on earth, a living nightmare. >> something had clicked. >> where once he felt no sympathy for the victims of 9/11, the 7/7 attacks in london made him feel revulsion. recently his journey almost took him from prison to parliament. he ran for a seat in this year's british elections. he is currently the chairman of the quilliam foundation, a think tank he co-founded to study extremism and challenge it. >> people that join isil, they genuinely think they're bringing about an end of days scenario. they genuinely believe that they are working on behalf of god. maajid nawaz's story sheds light on one aspect of this picture. but what about the others? why are hundreds, thousands of people streaming from four corners of the world to fight
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for isis? why do young men -- and they are almost all young men -- lust for jihad? thomas friedman has a simple explanation. >> none of them have ever held a job, power, or a girl's hand. and when you put large numbers of young males together and you offer them a wife, you offer them a salary, and you offer them the ability to lord it over somebody else, that is isis' value proposition. next on "blindsided," is isis a threat to the united states? to the homeland? i'll give you my thoughts when we come back. whatever you're doing, plan well and enjoy life... ♪ or, as we say at unitedhealthcare insurance company, go long. of course, how you plan is up to you. take healthcare. make sure you're covered for more than what just medicare pays... consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan
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you've heard so much and seen so much about isis that it's easy to get anxious. it is trying to scare you and confuse you. and the gruesome attacks in paris have yet again done just that. we still can't be certain how many of these attacks are planned or directed or simply inspired by isis. but that lack of knowledge only adds to our anxiety and fuels our fear. and, indeed, the terrible attacks in paris have alarmed the entire world, making it all the more important that we understand the islamic state fully and realistically. isis presents itself as a global
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organization. but it has thrived because of a local cause. the group has gained territory, cash, and recruits primarily because of the rage and rebellion of the sunnis of iraq and syria. that sunni cause is going to endure for some time. the sunnis of the region will remain in rebellion. the sunni-dominated areas will remain in turmoil and isis will be able to capitalize on this chaos. now, in the long run, icy mig i find its greatest foes are within the so-called caliphate. the few reports coming out show that people do not like living around brutal theocratic dictatorship and even those who supported it are growing disenchanted. in this case, isis is like other radical groups such as the taliban. they are a lure in the abstract
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but once they are governing in their medieval bar barrous manner, the allure fades, the disenchantment builds and with it ever increasing repression. remember, no one has ever voted isis into power anywhere. they slaughtered their way to victory. is isis a threat to the west? the group's leaders declare that it is everyday. but until recently their ambitions appeared to be mostly centered on their arab enemies, on building a caliphate in iraq and syria. in recent months with the attacks against russia and turkey and france clearly isis has expanded its ambitions and its operations. they understand, of course, that to be terror group number one, they must battle the country that is the world's number-one power, america. they seek that confrontation and hope that the united states would come to the middle east and fight them on their terms.
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on their terrain. to be clear, they are opportunists and they ask and hope their followers would act in america but their main focus is not to come here, they want americans to go there. the leaders of isis have recognized that above all they are a message magazine which in turn becomes a recruitment machine. their gruesome videos would seem a repulsive turnoff and are to most people. but they work on the web. the shock and awe they produce makes them go viral and thus are seen by tens of millions. that ensures that these videos attract those utterly alienated young men, a few thousand among the world's 1.6 billion muslims who seek revenge, glory and gore. and as long as those young muslim men scattered across the globe are attracted to isis and stream to its cause, the group presents the world with a danger
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