wander into iranian waters? was one of the navy boats actually disabled? how were they treated by the iranians? we are seeing a photo distributed by iranian media of those sailors while they were w held. you see some american troops there with very concerned looks on their faces, obviously. during this period of time, not at all sure what was happening to them. but now, back ashore with the u.s. navy and the investigation into all of this begins. alisyn. >> thanks for the breaking details. here to discuss everything is our cnn military analyst and former commanding general for europe and 7th army lieutenant general mark hertling. we just heard the nuts and bolts from barbara of how they were released. give us the back story. what do you think happen here? >> that's a great question, alisyn. good morning to you. when i first saw the news last night before the state of the union, it was curious. this is one of those things that
makes a commander's gut churn a little bit, saying what the heck is going on. the combination of excuses, hey, they ran out of gas. don't believe that. technical problems, probably but you know, if one boat has it, the otherç boat can tow it out. they did drift certainly into iranian waters. that's a violation much the international security agreement. understandably they were taken in by the iranian force. what happened? now the issue is, was a gps issue. i'm not sure i believe that. these rcvs are pretty fast boats, good boats. this is unfortunate timing. >> indeed. we don't know why our u.s. soldiers were in these iranian waters but we do know about the timing. this this is just days before the iranian nuclear deal is set to go through. is that why you think they were released posthaste?
>> maybe. i don't want to put it completely on that. the thing, what you have is a carrier cash group there, the harry truman carrier group, the charles de gaulle, the french carrier there. there are a lot of boats in that water. they're doing an exercise right now as part of naval command, as part of central command. why they were released quickly? i'm not sure. i think there is potentially a new age coming about with iran. in the past as you know, the british were held for almost two weeks a few years ago in the same kind of circumstances. so yes, i certainly think that they were released quickly because of the ongoing iran deal. they probably would have been kept a few more days. i also think the actions of secretaryç carter and secretar kerry who were together when they got the news that this happened of calling the iranian counterparts, helped significantly.
>> the president didn't mention this during the state of the union address. can we assume that's because negotiations were under way and things were happening and he didn't want to reveal them? >> yes, again, partly. i heard a lot of the pundits talking about this last night, he should have talked about it. i disagree completely. this was not at the level of the president. the secretary of state had already talked to his counterpart, had gotten confirmation they would be released in the morning. they were. truthfully i was a little surprised they gave up the boats with them. i thought the sailors would be released. i knew they would be released early this morning because of several factors. i thought the iranians might keep the boats. they didn't. they escorted them out. when you're in a situation in the navy when you're a distressed mariner and another force picks you up, it is international law to be treated well and returned and released after they find out the reasons for that distress. the iranians did that much to their credit. it could be part of the iranian
deal. it could be because of new engagements, the fact that we've been talking with the iranians for the last year plus. all of those things could have certainly contributed. >> it's nice to be able to rely on international law, particularly in this time of no rules and knowing that warfare has changed so much. this had the potential for going in a very different direction. >> yes, it certainly did. the big thing i was concerned about was there's theç issues what the government of iran will say and the more moderates and what the irgc, the qods force, the navy force would do. sometimes they don't pay attention to their own moderate government. farsi island where the sailors were is also a navy base for the irgc. this was also a ken of mine, would the irgc pay attention to their own government and release these sailors? they did, much to their credit. this is an interesting time.
we don't need any more churning in the middle east. we have so much of it already. its with a good thing they were released and god bless those sailors. >> there you go. general mark hertling, thanks so much for being on "new day." chris is in washington. he's been following the state of the union. the president was probably not expecting this, breaking news, chris. >> he wasn't. as the general said there, this was not something that raised itself to the level of the presidency. the secretary of state made that clear early on. the question you suggest, this could have gone the wrong way. we have to look at why. this was not a case of airani - iranian aggression. there were so much ready to make this an act of defiance of iran and sign of political weakness. last night we watched the president's motorcade pass us in the street. i thought about how much has happened since the president took office and that sense of
perspective was his main point in his final state of the union address. he does seem to beç ending his journey somewhat where he began, giving a message directly to the american people, the politics of opposition, that the rank lore as he said, was too much and we have to come together for the future to be bright. cnn's michelle kosinski live at the white house with highlights. feel free to tell me if i'm wrong. it did seem he had a definite message, even if his audience that that room wasn't so open to it. >> absolutely. it was interesting to hear the white house talk about how the president wanted to focus on the future and the positives but the negative of politics really played heavily into this. by the way, this was absolutely a traditional speech. if you remember last year, the tone was very defiant and emotional, talking about turning a page in american values. but i think naturally this one was going to be more political. next year, there is going to be a new president standing there. he had some pretty sharp barbes
for unnamed republican candidates. >> the president of the united states. >> reporter: entering the capitol for his final state of the union address. president obama was met with such energy it took a good five minutes to get started. >> let's bring this to order. for this final one, i'm going to try to make it a little shorter. i know some of you are anxious to get back to iowa. i've been there. >> reporter: he acknowledged the difficulties he's faced. >> we won't agree on health care anytime soon. but --ç the applause back ther. >> reporter: wasted no time in repeatedly, sharply digging republican candidates for their criticism. >> anyone claiming that america's economy is in decline is peddling fiction. so is the rhetoric you hear
about our enemies getting stronger and america getting weaker. the answer needs to be more than tough talk or -- >> we need to reject any politics, any politics, that targets people because of race or religion. >> reporter: a sentiment that interestingly was echoed in the republican rebuttal aby ni by n haley. >> we must resist that temptation. >> reporter: donald trump tweeted that the president's speech was boring. lethargic. senator ted cruz didn't attend it but said this. >> i will apologize to nobody for my commitment to kill the terrorists. >> reporter: one of president obama's goals was optimism which lately the white house uses to build a contrast with how they see the republican field. >> 60 years ago, when the russians beat us into space, we
didn't deny sputnik was up there. we didn't argue about the science or shrink our research and development budget, we built a space program almost overnight and 12 years later, we were walking on the moon.ç that spirit of discovery is in our dna. let's make america the country that cures cancer once and for all. >> reporter: that statement brought both sides of the aisle to its feet. the room filled with guests as diverse as a syrian refugee, funs suing the administration over obamacare, american muslims and kim davis, the president conceding that the politics remains a barrier. >> it's one of the few regrets of my presidency, that the rancor and suspicion between the party has gotten worse instead of better. >> reporter: calling on individual americans to set aside cynicism and vote. >> because i believe in you, the american people.
and that's why i stand here as confident as i have ever been that the state of our union is strong. thank you. >> reporter: okay, that's over, let's get back to work. the president will be traveling today. members of his cabinet plan to travel to keep on pushing for some of those plans that he laid out last night, chris. michelle, thank you very much for taking us inside the details of the speech. really this was about the feel, about the mood in the country. let's discuss what the message was and why from the president, how it's being received. matt lewis, senior contributor to the daily caller and conservative caller and manu raju. the time he used, how was it spent, how was it received? ç >> the president tried to lay out a much different vision than
we're hearing on the campaign trail. the way he was received by republicans on capitol hill, they dismissed it before they even came into office and democrats, too, to some extent, they've heard a lot of the same promises before. i talked to a lot of democrats when they were leaving the chamber. they said, look, the president could have done a -- made a more forceable argument on the economy earlier in his presidency. they wish he did that running into the midterm elections last year, those are the types of tones and the optimistic tone he could have stressed earlier on in his president. >> i there is an unspoken rule at the state of the union that praise by the out party by the president is seen as purfity. a lot of the things he said were ecumenical, nonpartisan. >> you didn't hear very much praise coming from the
republican side of the aisle. there were only a handful of times where both sides jumped up and gave him applause, things you have to applaud for. when the president said we need to be the country that cures cancer. who's not going to stand up for that? those are things that they really jumped up -- >> corporate regulations. >> one thing that was interesting, too, when the president said that partisan rancor has intensified in his presidency, almost acknowledging that was a failure in his presidency. >> he said i'm not lincoln, i'm not roosevelt. ç% it was a big admission for someone in this klein the to say anything negative about themselves. >> this is one of the reasons he got elected, i think, to change washington, bring more civility to washington. he's contributed to the acrimony we've had over the last eight years. >> how much? >> a lot. >> what do you think the ratio is of politics as a passive regression versus his own stoking of that fire.
>> i think it's at least 50/50. he preaches civility and mocks republicans almost simultaneously. republicans have contributed to this problem as well. when you're the president and you run on sort of a platform of being a change agent, you have to deliver. he failed to deliver on this really big thing which was to heal america. >> when we look at polls, right, very often whom do you blame? the president usually doesn't get 50/50. it's seen as him being victimized. how was it received last night? he was talking directly to you last night, even his message of how to break through the rancor is on you, forget about the people in this room. we have polls of will these policies move us in the right direction? this is unusual for president obama. this is called approval of what he said. this is in rare supply. let me ask you something. >> yes. >> let's assume this is resonance that the people are still open to an optimism about the future. was there any part of you that
looked at that setting, that man, his command whether or not you like what he said, who do we have who i can seat comfortably in that position, at theç top our polls right now. i can't see trump in that position. i can't see cruz in that position. i can't see rubio in that position. do you own that suspicion as well? >> when you have that setting, the president addressing a joint session of congress, you need somebody who can rise to the occasion. i certainly think a president, marco rubio could do it. i even think senator ted cruz could rise to the occasion. there's something about being thrust into the presidency and accepting the responsibility that comes with it. >> he, too, was a freshman senator once. >> who ran for president 15 minutes after being in the senate. i think you grow into the job, the responsibility that comes along with it. >> i'm not owning -- i'm not the author of this criticism or skepticism or concern. there was a lot of this around in line last night and in this
place as well. >> yes. paul ryan, the new house speaker, is really trying to present somewhat of a different face to the republican party than what we've been seeing on the campaign trail talking about things like dealing with poverty, going into low-income neighborhoods, things he wished he did when he was the republican vice presidential nominee in 2012. largely it's an effort to set the agenda away from the donald trump, away from the people on the campaign trail. how much success you'll have, though, that's another question, chris. >> the speaker is always in a tough position during that speech. >> yes. >> you're under the hammer the whole time. it's tough to focus. online last night, it was like a smirk. i'm surprised it didn't get its own twitter account, maybe it did. is that fair criticism of ryan? >> everything is fair. >> nolç not everything is fair. we only say that because we're the ones doing the criticizing. >> i would not want to be paul ryan in that position where you're on camera the whole time but you're not speaking.
and people are going to be judging facial expressions you make, if you sigh. those sort of things. i think you're absolutely right. paul ryan is right now, the de facto leader of what i would call the thoughtful responsible weighing of the conservative movement and republican party. he tapped nikki haley to give the response. >> she's getting push back also for going after her own. >> she embodies a brand of conservatism that is, i would say, more diverse, more thoughtful and a governing wing of the republican party, a stark contrast to the donald trump wing of the republican party. this is the schism that's taking place, the fight for the heart and soul of the republican party could be summed up in the contrast between donald trump on one hand and paul ryan and nikki haley on the other. >> there's no doubt what she was doing. this was a carefully calibrated critique of donald trump and that kind of rhetoric that we're seeing on the campaign trail. >> she is the sitting governor.
she has her own mind and heart. she did show the remarks to the leadership. >> she was chosen by mitch mcconnell and paul ryan to give that particular speech. >> manu, matt, thank you very much. we have a packed show. you'll hear not from those who were there but those who were there in the position of leadership listening to this message, hillary clinton you'll hear from on the show today. excellent interview with alisyn. jeb bush, south carolinaç governor nikki haley who delivered the gop response to the state of the union. you'll hear what that message was. we also have house minority leader nancy pelosi. we'll hear from the big shots this morning and get a take on where the country is right now. >> that is a good show. ma kill michaela and i are going to stick around for it. is hillary clinton nervous about bernie sanders overtaking her in the most recent poll? i asked her in my one-on-one interview. hillary clinton, next.
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kind of like this look. i'm calling it the "name your price tool" phase. whatever. the latest polls shows hillary clinton once considered inevitable now struggling in the early voting states. her main challenger, bernie sanders, leading this morning in iowa and new hampshire. i sat down with the former
secretary in iowa to find out how she is dealing with this challenge. thanks so much for sitting down with us here in iowa. >> thank you, alisyn. >> we're in ames, iowa. >> yes. >> where the temperature as we speak is 1ç degree. >> uh-huh. >> i know you have been going to countless campaign events here and i'm wondering whenyou get up in the morning in iowa, if there are ever times you question your life choices. >> actually, no. you know, i grew up in chicago. i'm used to cold weather. it doesn't bother me. in fact, i'm somewhat reassured there is a real winter, that we're actually seeing snow and lower temperatures. but i get up every day whether i'm in iowa, new hampshire, wherever i am in the country and i really look forward to the day, because i find the opportunity to go out and listen to people, hear their stories, give them my views about what i think the next president should do very energizing and very
invigorating. >> let's talk about the tightening race between you and bernie sanders. bernie sanders is speaking to reporters on monday night here in iowa and he said your campaign is in, quote, serious trouble. is that how you feel? >> not at all. in fact, i have always known if you're going to run to be president, particularly in the democratic party, it's a long, hard challenging road. and so i've been in these elections before. they always tighten up as people begin to make up their minds, as they look at the candidates, totally predictable. i feel really, really good about the campaign organization that i have, a caucus is different from a primary. it takes a lost of intensive work to convince people to come out on a cold monday night, spend a couple of hoursç in orr to stand up for your candidate. i'm asking iowans. if they'll stand up for me on caucus night, i'll be standing
up for them all through my presidency. >> there's a new quinnipiac poll which bernie sanders is beating you in iowa. it is 49% to 44%. the first time that this has happened, that he's been beating you in iowa, since september. we're 20 days out. does he have more momentum than you? >> well, the funny thing, alisyn, is after that poll came out, about an hour later, there was a ppp poll where i was leading him by the same margin, about six points up. i don't pay any attention to this. i don't feel it's a good reflection about who will actually come out on caucus night. i can only tell you the energy, the enthusiasm, the excitement of my volunteers, my organizers, the voters who come who sign up on commit to caucus cards is just building. that's my experience. so i'll let people poll and try to figure out who will show up. i'm looking at people who are showing up, making up their
minds and trying to, you know, convince them to come out and caucus for them. >> why don't you feel the polls are a good reflection of what's going to happen in the caucus. >> it's got increasingly difficult to poll. you'd have to add a degree of difficulty of polling for a caucus. that's been my experience. i've had a prior election where i campaigned in iowa. i just put that aside. i'll let pundits and othersç worry about who's up and who's down. i get up every day, like we were saying, going out there, making my case, drawing the contrast. i have the highest regard for my two opponents but there are real differences. we need a spirited debate. after the first of the year, a lot more people start paying attention. now i know it's the make or break time. >> bernie sanders is also winning in new hampshire, not surprising. he's from the neighboring state. have you considered what would happen if he wins in iowa and
new hampshire, what your plan is? >> i don't think about that. i'm going to do everything i can to win as big a margin as possible in the caucus and then go to the primary. this is a national campaign. we've been organizing in south carolina, nevada, a lot of the march 1st dates, the march 15th states. i campaigned all the way into june last time. i have always thought that given the unpredictability and the changes in people's concerns going into this election, that we wouldn't know exactly how the outcome would be for a couple of cycles of these primaries and caucuses. i'm going to do my best to convince more iowans to come out and caucus for me. even though as you say, senator sanders is a neighbor and a neighbor's never lost in new hampshire, i'm going to take that challenge on and do the best i can to get people in new hampshire to support me as well.
>> okay. we'll break down everything she said with analysts on both sides during the show. plus, we'll have much more of mç wide-ranging interview with hillary clinton in our 7:00 hour. we'll get her take on vice president joe biden's praise of bernie sanders. >> fantastic conversation. you know what's happening? powerball fever is gripping the nation, alisyn. >> are we in it? >> people are crossing state lines to get their tickets. their chance at more than a billion dollars. we'll take a live look across the nation, next. >> do we have tickets? >> we do. n parallel. we had traveled for over 850 miles. my men driven nearly mad from starvation and frostbite. today we make history. >>bienvenidos! welcome to the south pole! if you're dora the explorer, you explore. it's what you do. >>what took you so long? if you want to save
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we are about 16 hours away from the biggest event in lottery history. the jackpot for tonight's powerball drawing, a whopping $1.5 billion and it is still rising. the ticket buying frenzy has many people going to great lengths in their quest for that golden ticket. we go to georgia, near the alabama border. paul sandoval, explain why you were there. >> what do you do if you can't play powerball in your own state? you get in your car and you drive. that's what we've seen in this region. people are driving over the georgia/alabama state line which is five miles from where we are this morning. this is one of the first stops for many people hoping to win big later tonight. when we arrived here a couple hours ago, there were plenty of people in line,ç many of those individuals were cut off early
this morning at 1:00 a.m. when they stopped selling those tickets. they decided instead of driving back home, they would stand in line throughout the night, waiting to be the first to get their tickets purchased early this morning. today, it's interesting. it really is a night and day difference, the line, only three people at this hour here. the owner of this shop telling us they expect a massive crowd later today. the store has essentially reshuffled some of the shelving to accommodate what's expected to be plenty of team hoping to win big later today. >> we're hearing about gas stations who people can buy gas because the lineup to get tickets are so long. thanks to you in tallapoosa, georgia. phil mattingly is live at new york's busiest lottery location which is about to open at penn station. i understand people from all socioeconomic backgrounds are
big these tickets, too. >> from all over the place. this carlton cards behind me in the boughs of penn station is expected to be packed. we asked a few of the people here what their strategies were to win this $1.5 billion jackpot. >> it only takes one ticket. i've bought $10 worth. but it only takes one. >> i have a ton of tickets at home, over $200 worth of powerball tickets. the first thing i'll do is retire and look to move some place warm.ç >> reporter: not only strategies but also plans, too, if they end up winning. one thing to keep in mind, while the odds are stacked against you, 1 in 292 million to win this jackpot, this store is a pretty good place to try. more people buy tickets here than anywhere else in the state of new york. more people win heres awell. last year, in march, a $58
million powerball winner, the winners, 16 employees of a store just two floors up, michaela. >> love that. >> if you're in new york and you want luck, this may be an okay place to try. >> phil, welcome, first of all to "new day." you don't know what we do here. we make the reporter out in the field buy the tickets for the pool back in the station. you're in charge of that fellow, "new day" needs what, 60 tickets? >> you finance that, though? >> no, no, no, that's on you being the new guy. >> on me, got it. >> welcome to cnn and to "new day." good to have you. folks at home, what would you do if you won this historically huge jackpot? part of the fun is his dreaming. tweet us at "new day" or post your comment on facebook.com/newday. we'll read some of the responses later in the show. alisyn? >> i'll look forward to that. hillary clinton shrugging off her sagging poll numbers though she's trailing bernie sanders in iowa and new
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hillary clinton may be downplaying bernie sanders taking the lead in iowa and new hampshire. but is that the right tact? here this morning, zeke miller and cnnç political analyst and editor in chief for the daily beast, john avalon as i mumble through your introduction. >> let me start with you. i sat down with hillary clinton. in person she seems confident. she seems comfortable. but her campaign must be nervous. bernie sanders in polls is now winning new hampshire. also iowa. look at that. look at the latest numbers compared to just last month. he had 40. he now has 49. she had 51, she now has 44. the moment sum going in the wrong direction. >> that trend is not her friend,
no question about it. we talked for a long time about how bernie sanders could win one or both of the first two contests. that would put the clinton campaign back on its heels in the short term. from a news media standpoint, nothing goods come out of that. those national numbers haven't moved significantly. if she looks confident, she's still the person overwhelmingly likely to become the democratic nominee. >> zeke, did people see this coming? hillary clinton, the most arguably most famous woman in the world, against bernie sanders, who certainly was not a household name before this presidential race, did anyone predict he might win the first two voting states? >> i'llson, that's exa-- alisyn certainly a question. they invested heavily in iowa and new hampshire, now if iowa,
like new hampshire, isç reallyn play, if they were to lose both of them, that would set them back. they have the fire wall here in south carolina where certainly among their support among african-american voters, it would be harder for bernie sanders to make the inroads. this may be another way of looking at it. she's been seen as the democratic nominee for two, three, six years if you look at it. having to fight for it would help peel some of the varnish off and show her as a person to improve for the candidacy. >> there must be a pony in here somewhere, the old joke. i'm remembering that. the hillary clinton campaign is looking for silver lining, two bad states right at the giddyap. bernie sanders has captured the imagination of the democratic populous base. the democratic party is beginning a process that republicans have been through for a few years right now.
if the democrats decide to take a jeremy corbin route as labor did in england, it will have a similar outcome. that's the reality there, too. the clinton campaign is making essentially an electability argument. the danger is, the flip side of that can be the inevitable. >> in terms of the eleblctabili argument, in head-to-head matchups she's not going as good as bernie sanders against trump, cruz and rubio. >> that's sillinessilliness. the idea that bernie sanders is a better general election nominee for the democratic party against marco rubio is notç reality based. >> i'm just quoting the polls. >> sometimes polls get all silly sauce. >> i like that. when i talk to hillary clinton, it seems that her strategy is to go after bernie sanders in a more aggressive way. at the beginning of the campaign, she would barely utter his name. now she's talking about all of
his weaknesses. she talked about how he hadn't released a tax plan, she had. basically saying he's a one-trick pony. is that what voters respond to, that muscular attack? >> certainly she has to show some fight, she has to show she wants this. she can't pretend that he's not there anymore. he's in her face. so that she has to be -- she can't be divorced from reality like she might have been a few years ago, that there's nobody else in the field. there's a whole bunch of people polling in the low teens. he's leading her in the first two primary states or caucused in primary states where she's invested hundreds of staffers, tens of millions of dollars. she has to go on the attack. at the same time, that's forcing her to hunt her own message, positioning herself to make that electability argument, that she's more pattalable to the
general electorate that maybe bernie sanders isn't. >> she needs to do a clear contrast. that's what candidates need to do. bernie has credibility for not going negative on hillary. that's built credibility particularly with democrats. she has to walk that line. >> yes,ç point out differencesn an aggressive way but not criticize. >> yes, clear contrast on policy issues, on electability without going personal. >> john, zeke, thank you. always great to get the analysis. donald trump will join erin burnett tonight, 7:00 eastern right here on cnn. michaela? we'll have reaction ahead to president obama's final state of the union. how do republicans feel about his rebuke of the vitriolic tone of those looking to replace him? a lot being made about who was there, especially this woman, kentucky clerk kim davis. who invited her? we'll discuss.
explosive material and waist belts but say they did not find any weapons. rick snyder activating the national guard toç assist with the drinking water crisis ongoing in flint. they are going to staff fire stations with bottles of water to hand out. protesters are demanding answers from the governor alleging his office knew that the water was unsafe. for the first time in more than a week, crude futures are up this morning. u.s. oil prices have been in free fall the past couple of weeks. amid concerns about an excess of supply coupled with a decrease in demand. oil closing just above $30 a barrel, the lowest level in 13 years. after 21 years, the nfl is going back to los angeles. st. louis rams are heading back to l.a. nfl team owners voting tuesday to approve the relocation for the start of next season. now, the san diego chargers have also been given the option to
join the rams in l.a. those two teams would share a stadium in englewood. if the chargers decide not to move, that choice would then be offered to the oakland raiders. so much movement, exciting times in l.a. chris, a lot of people thought this may not happen. >> but it did. it's very cool for the people of los angeles to be back in the game like that for the chargers as well. of course there will be hard feelings. the question is which team will be next, mick? i know that hits you close too home. >> i also lose my fellow on sundays because of football. >> i've seen you around him. he still has the stars in his eye. we're here at the cabitol, this is the place to be. the president gave his final state of the union last night. there were many guests, each made a statement. one was kim davis. we'll talk to the ohio republican whose office made that happen and get his reaction
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breaking news. this situation we've been monitoring with the ten u.s. sailors, they have now been released by iran. the question is why were they there? what does it mean? there was a big range of opinion going into the president's state of the union address last night. he did not mention it during the speech. what was the takeaway? we talk about with chairman of the freedom caucus, congressman jim jordan. let's talk about the breaking news that matters most. they have been released. this situation was taken in a lot of different directions, even when we didn't have the
facts, you had a lot of people saying this is another bit of proof that iran doesn't respect president obama, doesn't respect the united states. even had big shot commentators joe scarborough saying enjoy this, iran, in a few hundred days you won't have the president to push around. then it turns out they probably went into the wrong water space. iran released them quickly, and even gave them their boats back. which under international law they may not have had to. >> i thought it was interesting that the president didn't even mention it last çnight. i think the best news is they are released and coming back. >> the idea of making it an a active iranian aggression. it doesn't seem to be that at all. >> this is what i do know. the respect for the united states is not at the level it should be around the world. when the president went through some of his, quote, foreign policy success stories last night he mentioned benghazi, for
goodness sake. to bring that up as the fact that khattala sits in jail, that that was a success, secretary clinton's foreign policy success story and repeated requests for additional security, those requests denied, what took place that day, the tragedy where four americans were killed and then the false information put out by the administration after the fact, somehow saying this was blamed on a video, the protests spontaneously caused by a video. >> you don't buy there were competing theories within the intelligence committee? that's why you had two versions? >> i buy the facts. i buy what secretary clinton told her daughter that night, we know it was an al qaeda attack. she said we know, not we speculate, we think, we know it was a terrorist attack, not anything to do with a video. >> you don't think the explanation for her words is the time line of when she learned things? you don't buy that? >> i buy the facts.
she's told one story to the american people and an entirely different story to her family and egyptian prime minister and president the libya. so for the president to site -- thisç defies logic for him to y benghazi is somehow a success story. >> that was reflected in what we didn't see, you didn't see both sides of the aisle standing up for the issues. one of the issues that's close to you, the country has secured the right for us to marry who we love. you invited kim davis, the clerk from kentucky. why? what did you want people to know about that? >> frankly, yesterday, our office was approached by the family research council. i learned yesterday we were asked to provide tickets for mrs. davis's family. we did that and kim davis was the guest. >> because? >> they asked. we had a ticket available, so we did that. look, everyone -- >> it wasn't just about having a
ticket available, right? you knew having kim davis would be a statement. what is that statement? >> we weren't trying to make a statement. we were trying to give a ticket to friends of us and the family research council. everyone knows my position. marriage should be what it's always been. i've never changed on that and never will. i think that has served western culture well. last night was not about that. last night was about the failed policies of this president. he talked about seven years of progress. seven years of progress, we have 94 million people out of work. 48 million people on food stamps and we have a health care system that's driven up the cost of deductibles, premiums and everything they told us about health care within they marketed this to the americ@í people six years ago has been inaccurate. like your plan? keep your plan. like your doctor? keep your doctor. emergency room visits will be
down. the website will work. every one of those statements has turned out to be inaccurate. >> you do have 18 million more people. >> most of the people are in medicaid. if they are, it's an insurance plan that's driven up the cost of the deductible and premium. >> the problems are obvious. the question is what better plan do you have? when you talk about the economy -- >> great point, chris. >> there's a lot of people in distress. you have to compare it to 2008 when he got in there. >> speaker ryan has talked about this, this year should be the year we lay out the difference where obama and clinton want to take the country and where republicans and conservatives want to take the country. reform the tax code. the tax code everyone knows is broken. here's how we'll do health care that empowers you and not washington and bureaucrats in that town. we should reform the welfare system and incentivize work and focus on work.
that's fair to tax paying families and more important it's fair to those families, who will help families stuck in our welfare system. that's what we should do. the final thing we should do as a party is continue to hold people accountable in positions of public trust who do things wrong. the best example is john costin at the irs. the first amendment free speechç rights, they had targeting conservative groups around this country, mr. cospin was commissioner when 24,000 documents were destroyed with preservation orders in place and subpoenas in place. >> that is an interesting issue. there's a lot of accountability to go around. >> heck yeah. >> that's why we're here. congressman, thank you for being with us. appreciate you taking the opportunity. >> you bet. thanks for having me. there's a lot of news coming out of the state of the union this morning. we'll give it to you all this morning, including the sailors and iran. iran released ten american
navy sailors. >> they did drift certainly into iranian waters. >> these are tight waters in these portions of the persian gulf. our public life withers when only the most extreme voices get most of the attention. >> i believe in change because i believe in you. >> some people think you have to be the loudest voice in the room to milwaukee a difference. >> no one else comes close to the record i have. >> i had a very long record. >> when i was secretary of state i couldn't talk about domestic policy. you do not meddle in domestic policy when you are secretary of state. this is cnn breaking news. and good morning, everyone. welcome back to "new day." chris is in washington for us, michaela andry here in new york. we begin with breaking news. we want to update you on the american sailors, they are free now this morning from iranian detention. after wandering into iranian waters. iranian officials accusing the
u.s. of trespassing. they're demanding anç apology d issuing a warning to congress. all of this just days before that landmark nuclear deal is set to start. let's get right to cnn's pentagon correspondent barbara starr with all of the breaking details. what have you learned, barbara? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. the u.s. navy releasing a deep breath as ten of their sailors back in u.s. hands in the persian gulf. they were released by iran, iranians escorting them out into international waters on their two small boats. they were picked up by a navy cruiser in those international waters now being transferred back ashore. these sailors at this hour, getting medical texts, being talked to. they will get full debriefs about what happened to them. the investigation is going to look at how it is they got into iranian waters, was in fact it the case that one of their small boats became disabled?
while it lost communication, perhaps navigation propulsion. that being investigated. the u.s. navy wanting to know exactly what happened to them and what happened during those hours they were held by iran. how were they treated? were they interrogated? who talked to them? all of those details now being looked at. make no mistake, this is a big sigh of relief for the obama administration that iranian nuclear agreement going into effect in the coming days. they wanted to keep all of that on track and get these folks back. alisyn. >> let's bring in cnn chief international correspondent christiane amanpour. greatç to have you here. as you heard barbara say, big sigh of relief. everyone is happy the sailors are heading back home. did this have the potential to end badly? >> any kind of weird military misunderstanding can have that potential. the big story is how quickly the sailors were released, several hours after they apparently by
all accounts strayed into iranian waters, were taken in and because of direct diplomacy between secretary of state john kerry and his counterpart, things were calmed down, explained and these sailors released. it is incredible how different this is to the story of 2007 and 2004 when british sailors were captured in iranian waters for one reason or another. they were taken in, they were paraded. they were blindfolded, held in isolation. they were severely interrogated. forced into forced confessions. this is a completely different story which shows how these situations are changing now under the new iran nuclear deal with the united states and world powers. i think that is the story of this event. >> i want you to build on that, christiane. is this a direct result of the negotiations that happened
during the iran nuclear deal? can we give credit for this new day of diplomacy to the work they did on that? >> well, look, i remember reporting on the 2007 and 2004 incidents. 2007 was when theç reprehensib and antagonistic president ahmadinejad were president in iran. they were held in bad and harsh circumstances. since president obama and secretary kerry and the iranian president hassan rouhani have started a new kind of relationship, yes, about one issue, a very important issue, that is the nuclear issue, it has had a calming effect on many other issues as well. and there is direct contact between the highest levels in the united states and the highest levels in iran. that is a change. that's what diplomacy is all about. again, i think that this is the
story of this incident that whatever reason or why ever, the investigation will tell, according to barbara and others, why they strayed into those waters with be even the iranian military revolutionary guard, even the highest officials on iranian press television didn't go blustering and bombastic. they said let's investigate, let's see what happened. sure enough, they were released. will it have an impact? because it because of the nuclear deal? it's because of the new atmosphere, i believe, and that nuclear deal is about to be implemented. when the nuclear agency has given iran a clean bill of health. this week iran removed the heart of its iraq heavy water reactor, which might have been used for a second pathway to a nuclear device. things are moving in that direction. >> also, christiane, is it also becauseç of the timintiming, b it is days away from the nuclear deal and the sanctions being lifted that would infuse lots
and lots of money, billions of dollars into iran. does the u.s. lose some of its clout once this deal at the end of this week is, you know, for all intents and purposes done or under way? >> well, i don't think the incident -- we may find out it was related to this timing but i very much doubt it. the incident of the straying into the waters could have happened at any time. the u.s. patrols those areas frequently as do other nations navys there. you've seen it's a narrow straight. i don't think the incident is related to the timing of the lifting of sanctions and the implementation of this deal. i think the result of it is because of all of that, the way it was dealt with quickly, professionally, politically, is a fallout from these negotiations. yes, of course, everybody is worried. what will iran do now that it's brought further into the community of nations? many as you know, u.s. allies in
the persian gulf are scared about it all. right now between the united states and iran on these issues, there seems to be a much less heightened belligerent. let's go back to chris who is in washington, d.c. for all of the context on the state of the union. >> how you çdoing, alisyn? this situation with the sailors, you can say, good, it has a happy ending but you have to look at it more closely than that. it wasn't mentioned in the state of the union last night for a reason. within the political zeitgeist, this was being used different ways and it reflects on what the overall message and tone was in that room last night and around the country. the president used his time to talk about where he wants the country to go moving forward. this iran situation shows very much where we are right now.
michelle kosinski joins us from washington with highlights of the big speech and the impact, michelle. >> the white house was talking about expecting passion from the president, some using the words nontraditional. i'm not sure this is different from what we heard before. the president did focus on optimi optimism, looking forward to the changing economy, innovation, national security and politics. that's what really stood out, especially some pointed barbs he had for certain unnamed republican presidential candidates. >> the president of the united states! >> reporter: entering the capitol for his final state of the union address. president obama was met with such energy it took a good five minutes to get started. >> let's bring this to order. for this final one, i'm going to try to make it a little shorter. i know some of you are anxious to get back to iowa.
i've been there. >> reporter: he acknowledged the diffi(g&ties he's faced. >> we won't agree on health care any time soon. but -- the applause back there. >> reporter: wasted no time in repeatedly, sharply digging republican candidates for their criticism. >> anyone claiming that america's economy is in decline is peddling fiction. so is the rhetoric you hear about our enemies getting stronger and america getting weaker. and our answer needs to more than tough talk, or calls to carpet bomb civilians. that may work as a tv sound bite but it doesn't past muster on the world stage. we need to reject any politics, any politics, that targets people because of race or religion. >> reporter: a sentiment that interestingly was echoed in the republican rebuttal a by nikki haley.
>> during anxious times it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. we must resist that temptation. >> reporter: donald trump tweeted that the president's speech was boring. slow, lethargic. senator ted cruz didn't attend it but said this. >> i will apologize to nobody for my commitment to kill the terrorists. >> reporter: one of president obama's goals was optimism which lately the white house uses to try to build a contrast with how they see the republican field. >> 60 years ago, when the russians beat us into space, we didn't deny sputnik was up there. we didn't argue about the science or shrink our research ç and development budget, we built a space program almost overnight and 12 years later, we were walking on the moon. that spirit of discovery is in our dna. let's make america the country that cures cancer once and for all. >> reporter: that statement
brought both sides of the aisle to its feet. the room filled with guests as diverse as a syrian refugee, nuns suing the administration over obamacare, american muslims and kim davis, the president conceding that the politics remains a barrier. >> it's one of the few regrets of my presidency, that the rancor and suspicion between the parties has gotten worse instead of better. >> reporter: calling on individual americans to set aside cynicism and vote. >> because i believe in you, the american people. and that's why i stand here as confident as i have ever been that the state of our union is strong. thank you. >> reporter: this morning, the white house is in the mode of that's over, let's get back to work. there are lots of travel planned to take some of those messages from last night on the road to the american people. chris? >> well, that was a key for the president last night, right, michelle? he said i'm talking to you at home, not to people in this
room. thank you for the reporting. let's bring in someone who knows all and knows it all so well. david axelrod, former obama senior adviser. always good to have you. >> great to be here. >> you say the place to begin is with the end of the speech. that resonated most how other than the juxtapositionç saying the state of the union is strong, very strong, at the end instead of the beginning. >> everyone who is at the beginning of this journey feels, the one great and important task that he was unable to complete is to change the tone of politics in this town to create a more civil politics, a more respectful politics. we've always had big contentious fights but ultimately we've respected each other as americans. he feels strongly, he's right, we have to found a way past that
if we're going to deal with the challenges we face. after all, this speech was about how do we deal with the big challenges facing our country? that's one of the big challenges. >> he owned a little bit of it last night, maybe lincoln, maybe roosevelt, elevated company, may have done better. >> yes. >> the republicans say forget about lincoln and roosevelt, you made this happen. you're the reason we're divided. they believe that. >> i try not to strike harshly partisan notes in this role because that's not the role i'm playing. i must say, i think a strategic decision was made. mitch mcconnell has spoken to it on several occasions. that was we weren't going to give this guy everything because we crushed them in that election. they were down on their backs, the republicans in this congress, they lost many seats and we were in the middle of this crisis. the feeling çwas, let him grape with the tough, unpopular
decisions he'll have to make. the move there wasn't cooperation, the more he was driven to a point where he believed that, well, if i'm going to get stuff done, i'm going to work only with democrats. could more have been done? i have no doubt more could be done. >> he also wound up winning, though, two sets of midterms as they moved up. >> in 2008, after the election, we had a briefing on the state of the economy that was so chilling and nobody ever expected to be sitting in a room when we were running that campaign and hear someone say we could have a second great depression. i left that briefing and said to the president, then president-elect, we're going to get crushed in the midterm election. just be prepared for that. you can't govern through a crisis like that and not take huge losses. we were holding a bunch of seat that's we honestly shouldn't have been holding. we had done so well in the previous two elections that we had seats in republican-leading
districts that were going to be hard to hold. >> within you look at the tone, again, this journey ending for the president, how do you deal with the rancor in there? praise during the state of the union by the out party is purfity, right? speaker ryan, he's a different guy. he's not afraid of his team but he played boehner times ten in terms of not standing up. >> at least boehner cried every once in a while. >> usually we didn't know why. with speaker ryan, you usually know why he was doing whatç he was doing. >> i think paul ryan is walking a very fine line with his caucus. he's trying to stay trau to the conservative spirit of the republican party while still trying to find areas where he can work with the president. that makes him suspect. i don't think he wanted to show outward signs of approval of anything. when you can't stand up and applaud for curing cancer, that's hard core.
>> nikki haley last night, though, distinguished herself by going after her own a little bit. >> she did. yes. >> you mentioned trump early on. i was happy to hear less about him so you could talk more about the ideas involved. she seemed to be speaking directly to -- let's call that part of the party, trump's part of the party. >> i think the central core was, how do we deal with change? change is frightening. change is difficult. it's also an opportunity. you can surf the fear and an decide and seize the moment, deal with the challenges of our time. that's where the president was urging us to go. he was condemn that toatory of that trump represents. what was surprising was that nikki haley picked up on that theme. she was chosen by ryan, mcconnell. they specifically chose someone from outside of washington,
someone who was prepared to condemn washington for some of the politics that have gone on here and to condemn donald trump. she really was firingç a shot the civil war that's going on in the republican part right now. >> they did see a lot of republicans on social media, given the occasion, given the reminder of what it is to be president, the respect it demands, the respect that's required. which one of the top guys could be in that position where president obama was last night? interesting part of the analysis to see it going forward. >> you can't by the way put trump on the podium when you're giving the state of the union speech. can't put your name on podium yet. >> not yet. we'll see. axelrod, as always, nice to see you. >> we have a lot of big guests. we had david axelrod, you'll hear from hillary clinton, jeb bush, nikki haley. we also have house minority
leader nancy pelosi. what can democrats do in the remainder of the president's term. lots of interesting stuff coming up, chris. thanks so much. what does hillary clinton think of vice president biden seeming to show more love for bernie sanders? more of my interview with hillary clinton, that's next. ade best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like ordering wine equals pretending to know wine. pinot noir, which means peanut of the night.
about the challenge that bernie sanders poses ijúrju(hp'd new hampshire. how does she feel, though, about vice president biden appearing to call bernie sanders more authentic than her? listen. >> vice president joe biden offered his thoughts to cnn on why he thinks bernie sanders is resonating. he said he thinks it's about senator sanders position on income inequality. he said it's relatively new for hillary to talk about that. that's been bernie's. no one questions bernie's authenticity on those issues. what's your reaction? >> the vice president who i deeply respect and regard as a friend went on to say, as i recall, hillary clinton has good economic policies that are thoughtful and on and on. i have been working towards closing the gaps between people, poor people and well off people primarily, all my adult life. i went to work for the children's defense fund. i helped to reform the education
system in arkansas. i was a legal services lawyer defending poor people. i went to work to try to make sure we got health care in the beginning of husband's administration because of so many people who were left out and uninsured. i have been on this issue in many different ways. ho do we makedicati education m equal? how do we make health care more equal? of course that's tied to income equality. there's a broader range of issues that i have a long record addressing. when i was in the senate win took on corporate executive çp. a lot abuses that i thought were there. i took on derivatives and credit default swaps that contributed to the collapse of the economy and the great recession. i stood up to wall street, called them out. i have a very long record. i have a broader agenda. it's not the only thing i'll
talk about. you have to view equality of opportunity and how we deliver that in the 21st century. >> since you have been devoting much of your career to talking about this, why do you think the vice president would say it's more in bernie's wheel house, and his authenticity? >> i have a lot of regard for the vice president. he clarified what he said and was talking about me when i was secretary of state. when i was secretary of state, i couldn't talk about domestic policy. there's an unwritten rule. you do not meddle in domestic policy when you are secretary of state or for that matter, secretary of defense. for four years, despite a long career, both in and out of public service, where i have been relentless in talking about these issues, there were four years when i did not. i talked about how we're going to get around to the negotiating table and try to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon. how we're going to deal with the rise in china, what we'll do about women's rights, something
that goes to the heart of inequality. i had a different agenda because i had a different job. >> you didn't take biden's comments as a slight in. >> no at all. >> oneç of the headlines is yo would impose a 4% surcharge on incomes over $5 million. that would raise about $150 billion over ten years. does that go far enough in addressing income inequality? >> we have a variety of proposals. not only the 4% surcharge which i call the fair share surcharge, the so-called buffett rule which would have a minimum tax rate for people making more than a million dollars, limiting deductions to 28% with a charitable exception. going after a lot of the subsidies that, for example, still subsidize the oil and gas industry, about 6 billion a year while we have to move toward a
clean, renewable energy future. i have put forth plans, paid family leave, tuition, debt-free tuition for public colleges, tapping prescription drug costs and much more. and it would cost about $100 billion a year, all of which i pay for. in contrast, senator sanders has very big ideas but he hasn't yet told anybody how he would pay for them. he had promised that he would roll out his tax plans before the iowa caucus on february 1st. well, if you wait too long nobody will have a chance to see them or analyze them and so, i am very clear about what i would do and how i would pay for it. >> another point of conflict between you and senator sanders is on gun policy. >> uh-huh. >> we watched this very emotional event that you were involved in where this mom whgç lost two children to gun violence got up and spoke. >> right. >> it was heartbreaking to hear her. it sounds like she lost her children to criminals.
>> yes. >> how would you stop that? >> this is a very big difference in this campaign was, as you saw, i received the brady campaign endorse mement, both women, delphine cherry and head of the brady campaign lost family members. it was really hard standing up there. i have held the hands of and listened to countless people who have lost family members to gun violence. i agree completely with the president about us having to take action now. we lose on an average 90 people a day. it has to stop, alisyn. i've been in this campaign advocating for comprehensive background checks, closing the gun show loophole, the online loophole. closing what's called the charleston loophole. at the end of three days, you get that gun whether they've
finished the background check or not. the killer in charleston if they bought that gun, it would have been discovered he should not have been able to buy the gun because he had a federal record, if they had taken a little more time. we have saved a lot of lives, because of the brady bill which senator sanders voted against five times, more than 2 million people, the brady campaign says 2.4 million purchasers have been stoppedç from buying guns. so we're talking about violent criminals. we're talking about domestic abusers. we're talking about the dangerously mentally ill. we're even talking about terrorists because the republicans won't close the loophole so that people on the no-fly zone can buy guns. i feel passionately about this and the accumulation from sandy hook to the commune college in
oregon and the fact that we've had so many mass kill innings the last few years, it certainly motivated the president. i am so proud to support him. i want to make this a voting issue in this campaign. >> we will break down hillary clinton's comments ahead. what about those allegations from his husband's past? find out in our next hour. republican candidates are standing off on the president's final state of the union. what did jeb bush make of that? he joins us live. we'll ask him about that and his campaign, next.
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we are in washington, d.c., in the capitol because this is a big moment for the country. the presidentç gave his final state of the union last night. in it he talked directly to you. and he said that the rancor, the opposition in washington, d.c. has to change and it starts with you. what did he lay out that's resonating? what will the candidates that want to be your next president take and leave from his address? we have a main playing right now. former florida governor jeb bush on the iowa campaign trail. governor, thank you for joining us. i want to give you sobering context for our discussion. the abc news/"washington post" poll and "des moines register" poll just came out. it is all bad news for you.
unfortunately. you're at your lowest point since you decided to run. 44% favorability in iowa, in new hampshire you're seventh. look at the voters and tell them what they're getting wrong about you. >> look, the pundits aren't going to decide this, the voters are. every place i go in the last few weeks, my crowds are larger, there's more enthusiasm. i'm connecting with voters and they're signing up. so yo i'm not deterred by polls at all. i'll let the voters decide this and they always decide late. i saw a poll about the "des moines register" poll, for example, that 57% of the people haven't decided yet. there's a long way to go. my case is i have a proven record, a conservative record of reform. if you want someone to fix the mess in d.c., i have the proven record to do it and detailedç plans to lift us out of the mess we're in. the president when he got
elected had a mandate to bring people together, to forge con senses. >> one point of push back. i hear you about the pundits. nobody is going to come to their defense anytime soon. polls, that's a survey of voters, likely republican voters, registered republican voters. they're the ones who are saying we've heard you, you're putting a lot of money into it, running a lot of ads. you've been weighed and measured and found lacking in these polls what's your response? what are you telling yourself? >> i was in second place in the last poll i saw in new hampshire. i'm not consumed by the process part of this. i'm consumed by the fact that we're in decline as a nation right now and to restore american greatness we have to fix a few big complex things. i talk to the american people, people who come to our town hall meetings and listen to them about how we need to reform how
we tax and fix the regulatory system. the president last night talked about isis as though it was a marginal event. i believe it's at the core of what we need to do as a nation to keep us safe. we need to destroy isis. we can't contain it. there's a big difference of opinion. that's why we have campaigns, have a chance to have a dialogue with american voters particularly in the early states. i'm not deterred at all. i believe we're open the right track. >> i put the polls up there while you wereç speaking so people understand i'm not making that up. >> haey, great. >> i just wanted you to know because you couldn't see them. you talk about leadership. certainly what will be in sharp focus is the kind of leadership we're talking about and what will a leader do in a situation? let's take a look at this iran situation that just happened with the ten sailors. the head lane for you at home, they have been released. many are remarking that it's
seen as a positive sign. your early reaction to this was treating it as a sign of aggression from iran, a sign of weakness, then the facts come out. it looks like our men strayed into iranian waters, that they were treated well, released with their ships, which international law may have well made not necessary. did you get it wrong? and is that something that you have to think about before you get that a situation like that where you could have caused a lot of danger as the commander in chief? >> chris, if you saw the tweet, it said if they are being detained, then this is a problem. it was conditional, because we did not have the facts. i fully agree with you that you can't have an opinion about something without all the facts on the ground. we still don't have the facts. i'd like to know more about it. the tweet i had, read it again, it was a conditional statement. i think it is an accurate statement, if they were being
detained and over a long period of time we'd need to have a lot more information. that's fair game. that's not a problem. i wasn't trying to create a problem for the president of the united states or our çcountry. >> governor, i think that -- yes, it was conditional. yes, it was if. >> thank you. >> when you play that kind of conditional statement, though, it's inflammatory, right? if they're being detained, this is obama's humiliatingly weak iran policy exposed again. that's not just a suggestion. it's an indictment. i think it reflects something you've been against, the tone of this campaign, something that the president was resonating last night in his speech. that we need to do better than this. do you think that that is something that we have to be cautious about is jumping on situations, looking at the gative because that further divides. >> look, chris, the iranian policy i think is wrong. the president while he talked about regrets, is the main culprit in this. anytime anybody has a view
that's different, he creates the strong man and makes his so-called sophisticated view look better. they're destabilizing the region. they're the largest sponsor of terrorism. they violate sanctions by launching tests for missiles, for medium-range missiles that would be a direct threat to israel and other capitals in the region. it's healthy to have a debate about foreign policy in a way that's important. he talked about the fact that we can't be the world's policeman as though that's the only other option than the policy of leading from behind. leadership creates peace and stability. it's not to be the cop on the beat but to be the leader and forge consensus to bringç peop together, create stability. the world is now turned up side down right now. that's a healthy debate we need to have. >> governor jeb bush, thank you very much for being on "new day" to talk about what matters, as
always, we'll see you out on the trail. >> thank you, chris. >> all right, governor. i want to give you a quick programming note. donald trump will join erin burnett tonight, see the interview at 7:00 eastern right here on cnn. a big part of last night was the response from the gop. that came out of the mouth of south carolina governor nikki hal haley. she's getting blow back from her own party this morning. what did she say and why is it getting people riled up? there's the governor smiling this morning, despite the criticism, she'll be live when "new day" returns. eated a new c. one totally focused on what's next for your business. the true partnership where people,technology and ideas push everyone forward. accelerating innovation. accelerating transformation. accelerating next. hewlett packard enterprise.
in many parts of society today, inç popular culture, academia or politics, there's the tendency to falsely equate noise with results. some people think you have to be the loudest voice in the room to make a difference. that's just not true. >> that was south carolina governor nikki haley giving the republican response to the state of the union last night. she took issue with both party and targeted her party's front-runner, her remarks not
without criticism from her own party. governor haley pro-sided over the removal of the confederate flag last summer in front of the charleston statehouse after the charleston massacre. good morning. it's bright and early. >> what an honor it will be to interview governor haley. first this morning, i think i want to start with that sound bite. the loudest voices in the room. was that comment directed at donald trump? >> partially him but a lot of people. you know, a lot of what i was talking about, we've seen across our country, look at baltimore, ferguson, people feel they have to be loud and angry to get their voices heard. look to the example of south carolina spp when we had the shooting of walter scott, it was a time we could have had that. instead, we got together and two months to i dat -- the day
passed the first body bill in the country. that was blacks and whites that came together. we didn't have all that. we get more done when we listen and find out where someone else is comingç from and try and fi common ground. >> the president said one of the few regrets is the rancor and suspicion between parties has gotten worse instead of better. you addressed the division in washington saying there is more than enough blame to go around, your party needs to recognize its own contributions in the erosion of public trust and so on. is it possible to repair, you believe, that divide you see in washington and if so, how? >> absolutely we can. we've done it before. we need to do it again. first, we have to look in the mirror. president obama has been divisive for our country. weave seen him divide the country in a lot of ways. we have to make sure we're not a part of that. we need to look in the mirror, look at how we've been spending,
look at our debt and how we're handling national security and all those things. say we're going to be a positive role, start to move forward. there's too much of that. >> your party is responsible for its own share. how so, what do you mean? >> well, i think we've got republicans who want their projects as much as we have democrats. i think we have republicans who have increased debt just like we've seen democrats. i think we see republicans who are not always being responsible with their words in terms of extending our intent, making sure people abide by our laws and traditions and feel accepted in this country. i think it's important for republicans to really understand we have to really look at the responsibility that we have and what we want to do toç keep th country, the greatest, freest country in the world. that's making sure everyone feels welcome. >> one more note on the divide
in washington. you were criticized by conservatives, david axelrod praised you. how concerned are you about this divide in washington? and then, again, fixing it? you said you believe it can be but how concerned are you about it? >> i am concern. first of all, i'm thankful to speaker ryan and senator mcconnell let me give a speech i wanted to give, let me have an opportunity to talk to the country. what i want them to do is look at the example of south carolina, look at how we came together with walter scott and the confederate flag issue. look at how we came together with the thousand year flood. it can be done. we've proven it. it takes everyone to get their egos out the room and really sit down an say, okay, how are we going to get to a solution? that's something we're not seeing see ing in d.c. right now. >> i would imagine the leaders of the party did review your
speech before you gave it? >> they did. >> they approved it. paul ryan, i don't know if we have video of paul ryan, but there were people who made some fun of paul ryan because he seemed to be the guy upset the most in the room, didn't do a lot of applause in the room. what do you make of his reactions? were you watching him and do you think that's indicative of how republicans feel about the president? >> so i didn't watch him. what i can tell you about speaker ryan is, he rc really trying to right the ship in terms of the republican party and in terms of the leadership in his house. he realizes we have to talk about issues we haven't talked about. he was just in south carolina doing a poverty forum, trying to figure out how we give opportunities to citizens, lift them up. it's a really good change in what we're seeing in the leadership in the republican party and the way he's guiding. he's basically saying we have to talk about things we haven't talked about. we have to come together and be the party of solutions and we have to make sure we put it into action. and you know, look, you can't --
for us, as republicans, it's hard for us not to see what president obama has done with health care. it's hard for us to see on the regulars and overreach of executive orders. it's hard for us not to see what he's done in terms of the national safety. all of those things, it's hard to of nose things it is hard to stomach because we see also how he's divided the country. and there are no saints here but there are opportunities we can say okay let's right the ship. >> your comment s comments -- dk he would pick you as the running mate after parts of your speech seem to be aimed at him? >> those aren't things i think about, don. we started our legislation yesterday. we've got our budget roll out on
wednesday. and those aren't things i'm concerned about or that i think about. what i want is for all of our candidates to make sure that we have the best people we can. that we bring in the most people that we can and that we lead with solutions. and we want that for all the candidates. every candidate approximate solution oriented and inclusive. my voice to them was really, you know, remember the responsibility we have nur o words. the responsibility and requirements in our actions and let's move forward that way. >> i have got to go. but would you consider a vice presidency? >> i truly haven't thought about it. nearly as much as you guys have. i've got a daughter in high school and son in middle school. so i'm busy with basketball games and running the state. i've said at any time somebody wants to sit down i'm happy to sit down but really my life is full.
>> we shall see within a few months. thank you governor. appreciate you joining us here on "new day." we'll see in a couple of months. >> indeed. thanks for coming in early and bringing us that interview. hillary clinton and bernie sanders locked in very tight battles, this as vice president joe biden praises sanders for being authentic.
there is a lot of shifting around in this race. the new national poll shows hillary clinton's lead shrinking in and in iowa and new hampshire clinton now trails bernie sanders. what is her strategy? let's bring in our strategists. hillary, you are a strategist. in just the past month hillary clinton's lead has shrunk. she is down -- look, in iowa even she is now down 7 points. he's up 9 points. what would you advise her campaign to do? >> you know, the democratic primary is always a close thing when you look at voters in iowa and new hampshire. they get excited about their special role in presidential nominating contests. there is still a pretty big national gap in favor of hillary
clinton. my advice to her is not to attack bernie sanders. there are some points of differentiation on guns and some other things that matter to voters and pointing them out is fine. but look, people like bernie sanders and he has voters that hill clints is going to want eventually to feel enthusiastic about e eher. she has to play her own game. her own strength. in connecting with voters one on one. that is what iowa is good for. she's been working hard at that. sanders actually has been doing well one on one. he's doing well in big crowds. i think there is still a thoughtful, respectful race between the two of them. i think that is what democrats one. i think hillary clinton is going to prevail, but i think she has to do it by staying above the mud. >> i interviewed her yesterday sally. >> i noticed. great interview. >> thank you very much.
and she wasn't attacking him. but she more vociferously than ever went after. >> i think she feels defensive. she's feeling she might get burned in these primaries. it is important to note two things. first hillary clinton and bernie sanders are not only great democrats but great leaders and have solutions to the problems that largely in our country have been created by the republican party and the republican party policies over the last decades. that said, hillary clinton is great democrat. she's not a great progressive. and voters are looking for someone with progressive solutions and she's having trouble coming across that way. >> and conventional wisdom should say women. however she's having trouble there as well.
new hampshire democrat's choice for nominee among women, sanders, 50% now. her 44%. that's obviously shifted greatly since november. what's going on hillary with women and hillary clinton? >> first i think national the numbers are different. bernie sanders has been in the new hampshire media market for the last 20 years. so new hampshire women know him differently. and i don't think hill clinton expects people to vote for her because she's a woman. but i do think she's expects people to be excited about the possibility of having the first woman in the. women and children. she has history there i think she's going to chemotalking about those issues. and ultimately i think there is going to be a b gender gap in the election between the two of
them. younger women don't necessarily feel the way some older women do, that this is the last chance this our lifetimes potentially to elect a woman president. she's got to make a different case to younger women. i think that she's working on that. >> sally, whether do you think the gender issue is? >> i've spoken with woman voters of all ages who say yeah i want a woman president, just not this president. let's be honest. bernie sanders is one of the worst presidential candidates -- >> why do you say that. >> can't even run a comb through his hair. skips -- shown he's disinterested in politicking and campaigning and yet he's surging. i also think not only is he the antihillary but the antitrump. they are interested in substance and bernie is bringing them the substance especially in economic inequality they are looking for and hillary is failing.
>> thanks so much. we'll leave it there at this moment. thanks so much. we are following a lot of news including breaking news. let's get right to irt. >> this is cnn breaking news. welcome back to your "new day," it is wednesday, january 13st, 8:00 in the east. there is breaking news out of iran. 10 u.s. navy sailors now free after being detained from making their way into the iranian waters. iran demanding an apology despite admitting it was likely an accident. we're going to speak with house leader in a moment. but first pabarbara starr is lir with the details. >> reporter: no indication of a formal apology from the obama administration. all ten sailors are back with the u.s. navy, in good shape, none of them came to any harm
during their detention in iran overnight. that said a full process now under way to talk to them to debrief them to find out everything that happened to them, what the iranian said to them, what if there was any so called interrogation of them, everything that happened to them while they were in iran. also, to find out how they got there in the first place. clearly these sailors have some idea of what happened. did one of their small boats become disabled? did they have a navigation problem? did they run out of gas? miscalculate their navigation where they were? all of this very important because this incident could have blown up into an international disaster. it did not. secretary of state john kerry moving very quickly yesterday to talk to his iranian counterpart, get diplomacy underway and get these sailors very quickly released, as quickly as they
possibly could from the u.s. point of view a big sigh of relief that you will of this turned out okay, the big question is what happened and how. >> we nethose answers. thank you so much for that. chris is in washington. what's the latest? >> and also we have whether barbara is handling a as reporter, we then have the reaction to the situation was early on, before we knew what was going on.
this was made into a very big deal and everybody was forced to back off. so let us discuss the implications of the iran sailor situation. state of the union. the congress nancy pelosi here. this went in very different directions early on. what were you told about how the u.s. soldiers came to be in
iranian waters and how they responded. >> we'll get a further briefing and find out more but i've been to the region. everything is very close there. if there is a mechanical problem we'll find out. but i haven't been fully briefed yet. i will be as soon as i go to the capitol. but i have been told was that everything was resolved exdishesly and that's good. >> you haven't heard anything about iran stealing things or taking things off the -- >> no. >> okay. the view on the other side of the aisle was this is the president's weakness. >> it is exactly the opposite. building the relationship with iran has served us well in terms
of resolving this so quickly. >> how so? you could say they took your sailors, you held them. no respect. you are weak. >> you could make a case but the fact is they are free. it happened quickly. and i think the diplomacy involved in the treaty and the fact that the implementation day is imminent all weighed in to make this something that was resolved as quickly as possible. >> another headline we do here that the implementation of the iran plan, the monitoring of its nuclear activity will begin as soon as this weekend. if that's true. how does it begin. >> -- the adoption, the passing of the legislation we're very proud of i whether it is, i think it's important for the mesh people to realize though that the money being released is iranian must be held in banks. -- iranian money in banks. not in u.s. banks.
so it isn't about us giving them anything. it is about them having access to their own money if they meet the terms of the agreement. and have to be vigilant to make sure they do. >> people don't care anymore. they say you are giving fuel to the fire. >> well it is their money. >> they do bad things -- >> they may. and they have lots of needs in their own economy they will have to invest in. they have been doing bad things with the money that they had. but the fact is the biggest threat to all of us is that iran would have a nuclear weapon. we have taken them off that course. how much is that worth? of their own money? >> what do you make of the suspicion that there were iranian scientists on the ground in north korea during their most
recent test. >> let me just say about scientists and the rest. you know when you are making a judgment about a country as to what they might be up to, you have to see if they have the technology, if they have the know-how, the scientific know-how to turn the technology into a weapon. you have to see if they have the launch
capacity. and you have to see what their intentions are. and all of those cases security gunshot global security has been served by the iranian treaty. it is quite remarkable. in fact since you are asking more about it, it is a masterful work on the part of president obama to bring the p-5, russia, china into the fold. they have never voted with us in the u.n. on any sanctions in the past. so from diplomatic standpoint to
get us to this place was mast masterful. from a scientific place we were served by our secretary and his master ships there. and one of the republicans, a former advisor to bush presidencies, maybe both of them has said he probably knows more about this subject than anyone else in the world. >> the proof -- >> so we know what diplomatly we were success frfl the standpoint of substance. we had superior noj. >> the proof will be in the performance and essential we know what the intentions are. they are premature in terms of what actually happens. we'll wait and see. we get to the speech last night. president obama ends, talking to the american people. his main tone was you people have to remain better to stop
the rancor in here. what do crow see at the future? >> i hope that is not correct. i hope we can get some things done. we did in the course of this past year we've been able to get things done because we had the president who would sign a bill. the democrats who would sustain his veto should he not sign a bill, and the recognition that the republicans want to get something done too, i believe. and in the last negotiation we had more than anything they wanted to be able to export crude oil and they were willing to yield on many points in that regard. so we were able to do great things for the american people. >> let me understand the process a little bit. exporting oil they believe it is good for the u.s. industry but also it removes independence on outside oil so that is a good thing. >> why would you say it removes independence on outside oil. the thought was since the '70s when we had the shortages we
would retain crude oil. you can export refined oil. >> right. >> so when you are exporting crude oil you not only take an energy source out country but jobs out of the country to refine that oil. so there's been a barrier to that. they wanted to remove that barrier. >> the balancing is we have a lot here because -- >> no no. the president obama takes credit for because it was his policies. >> well they both -- >> -- enabled too but the fact is is that it was obama's policies that enabled us to have much more domestic credit than ever. and i was glad the president took credit last night. giving everyone a share shot, does it give everyone a fair shot? does it enable technology to work for us? how do we protect the american people without being a policemen of the world? and again to reduce the role of
money and politics, make judgments along the way. i was glad he said the deficit had been cut by 70%. 1.4 trillion to under 500 billion. we want it lower but it's come down 70%. unemployment was 10% it is now around 5%. in half. the market is 10 thousand points higher than it was the day that he took office. 17 million people have access to quality affordable healthcare who didn't before. and i'm so pleased that he bragged about that. because he hasn't necessarily done that. >> the case of the other side is it isn't come back far enough. still too many don't have jobs. >> the other side, you mean the biggest increasers in the deficit in american history? the fact is last five budgets were in balance or in surplus.
president bush put forth his tax breaks for the wealthy and all the rest of that, completely reversed that, took us deeply into debt. and president obama has taken us to a place where our deficit has decreased by 70%. we had pay as you go. you want tax breaks? pay for them. you want judgmeadjustments, let they are. pay for everything so we're not increasing the deficit. hopefully we can get back to a place where it is pay as you go. >> who answers the questions for your party? >> i think all three of them are great -- >> is there a chance that you support governor o'malley for president? >> i haven't made -- when i make my announcement i will make my announcement. but i do endorsement what he stands for as i do bernie sanders and hillary clinton.
and of course hillary clinton is the front runner. a woman president would be very exciting. >> right now they are neck in neck are you surprised. >> i'm not surprised by anything. i'm focusing on the winning the house for the democrats. and i'm happy for all three of them and how they have advocated for many of the things the president talked about, especially giving everyone a fair shot. in my view it is about trickle down economics on the republican side. tax breaks for the wealthy and special interest versus middle class economics and recognizing the best way to turn our economy around is to have confidence. we're a consumer economy. we have to have people have confidence instead of what the president inherited when he came in. what happened in 2008, the republicans want to take us right back to the same policies that got us into that fix in the first place. that is what i think the election is largely about.
>> i would expect you to think exactly that leader most. thank you very much for representing your side of the case. it is always good to have you here. >> thank you so much. >> nancy
pelosi giving us her take. alisyn back to you. the release of ten u.s. sailors held overnight by iran. bringing in general wesley clark, thanks so much for being here. everyone is breathing a huge sigh of relief this happened so quickly, what could have had the potential to turn into some international incident that our u.s. sailors are now on the way home. but let's talk about the timing. do you believe it would have gone so swiftly if the iran nuclear deal were not set to go into effect this week? >> no. i think that it is clear that the tone has changed in relationships between iran and the united states.
now how decisively this effects all of iron's activities in the region we'll have to see? but the president is leading. he pushed for that iran nuclear agreement. you heard nancy pelosi explain why and what some of the advantages were and looks like maybe it will impact the broader set of u.s.-iranian relationships. we hope so. >> hard know whether there is a blip or long-lasting effect. and part of the reason is this week, the sanctions, the frozen assets are supposed to begin being lifted and this occasion infusion of somewhere between 50 billion, a hundred billion are going to be available to iran that previously weren't. once that goes away this week, will we still have this diplomacy? >> that is the question. and you know presidential
leadership is about leadership. and the whole iran deal is not only about stopping the nuclear drift in the middle east but also perhaps being able to change the tone of politics. look, if we are going to bring effective pressure on isis and really eliminate it and destroy it, somehow the united states through our leader has got to pull together the saudis the irans the russians and focus all that combat power on isis and then have a system of governance for that region afterwards. it is not going to be down without an iranian voice in that. that's been made very clear. hezbollah and all and somehow we've got to reach through that and bring this region together. >> you believe what we've seen in the past 12 hours is exhibit a of this less aggressive, newly cooperative relationship with
u.s. and iran? >> i don't know if it's exhibit a or not? but i think eat it's a hopeful sign. >> why do you think these u.s. sailors did stray into iranian waters? >> that is a very good question. there should be plenty of redundant guidance systems there. and i suspect there is a lot of brass attention in the united states navy asking why these two small boats out in the middle of the persian gulf can't navigate effectively. everybody else can. >> do you think it's anything more than just an unfortunate accident? >> you mean, do i think the united states would be probing into iran to take a check of their intentions and their conduct? no i don't think we would do that. certainly not with these two ships from the u.s. navy. if something happened there -- this is not a special on. that is routine group of u.s.
navy people on patrol. or moving ships around. from one patrol location back to a base. and something happened and we need to find out what it is. and i'm sure that the navy will take the appropriate action if there was some malfeasance in their performance of duty or doing checklists or not knowing what they are doing. >> it seems secretary kerry was able to in very quick order pick up the phone, talk to his iranian counterpart, resolve this ux get the sailors home. what's next? what do you believe the next test will be of the iranian relationship? >> well i think it's even broader than that. somehow the united states has to encourage the saudis to pull together all the jihadi elements t sunnis that are fighting in syria, sit down maybe at a table, maybe in two different rooms. and bring together a transition plan that lets diplomacy take
the lead in resolving the conflict in syria. conflict in syria is a focal point of the evolution of this region. it's got to be resolved. the sunni and shia countries are at loggerheads. and you can't solve this by dumping a hundred thousand troops in there and say sort it out. we can't do that. we proved that in iraq. that is what the president was saying last night when he said you can't rebuild someone else's country for them. so it starts with outside powersality so the fact that secretary kerry can talk to the iransens on something like the is a very good sign and maybe we can create a condominium of interest. maybe there is a way of arranging a transition of power or power sharing, protecting the different groups inside syria which will satisfy both the saudis and turks on one kurds
and other iranians and bashar al assad's people. that is the diplomacy has to be constructed and not getting the attention it warrants. frankly i understand that. the administration doesn't want to put a lot of publicity on something that might fail but this is the most important part of this. not the air strikes. the air strikes are holding action. like more more the assistance. puts pressure on isis, yes through the iraq recover of the territory but the diplomacy so important here. >> we thank you for your perspective and always your expertise. thanks. look at your headlines at 20 minutes past the hour. breaking overnight, one person has been detained in turkey in connection with tuesday's deadly explosion in istanbul. three russian nationals in turkey are also detained on suspicion of isis connections according to russian media, it is unclear if they have links to this specific attack. the death toll now climbing to ten.
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an issue in this campaign and that is allegations from your husband's past. and further he's making it about you saying you are an enabler. what is your response to drurp. >> i have no response. him going to let him say whatever he wants to say. he can run his campaign however he wishes. i'm going to talk about what the next president will have to do. his tax plans would cut trillions of dollars of taxes from the wealthy and corporations. he doesn't believe in equal pay. he thinks that american workers are already making tooic much. so i'm going to draw the contrast with him i think the american people aren't seeing. >> -- since this is an issue you wanted to talk about on the
campaign trail. this sexual assault, you say that survivors need to be believed. they need to be heard. so when he's accusing you of doing something that is the antithiant antithesis of what you want too talk about don't you need to address it. >> >> i'm going to let the voters decide what is relevant and what is not relevant in their decision of who they are going to support. >> donald trump was on "the tonight show" and asked about the possibility of you two running against each other. he said quote that one an amazing thing. >> ha ha, yeah it would be amazing. i would look forward to it. i think this is really series business. campaigns also have great stories and great characters. that is part of the political process. this is really serious business, who the next president is. we're either going to build on the progress that we've made or we're going to see it ripped away. we're either going to defend all the rights at stake or we're
going to turn the clock back. and that is why i have tried to very clearly explain where i stand on all of these issues, because the stakes are so high. and if i'm fortunate enough to get the nomination, i will run hard against whomever the republicans nominate. because they represent a brand of politics and policies that i think would hurt our country. and i don't want to see that happen. >> let's say you get the nomination. let's say you win the presidency. >> yes, let's say that. >> let's say it. >> and on day one, you walk into the oval office. whereas the first phone call you make? well i think the very first phone call would be to whoever i've asked to be the chief of staff, let's get a meeting together and the earlier we start the better and we'll get
more accomplished. i want to really think hard, if i do get the nomination right then and there, how we organize the white house, how we organize the cabinet, what is the legislative agenda -- you know, the time between an election and all is short. you can't wait. you have to start working as hard as you possibly can. i think it's important to start planning because we know what happens. because you get behind in getting your agenda out. in getting your appointments made. you lose time. >> before i let you go. i want to ask about your granddaughter. i believe chelsea is making her first appearance on the campaign trail. >> yes. >> and she said that she believes that you becoming a grandmother is a driving force behind your campaign. how so? >> well she's right. because i think feel very
fortunate. i'd like to point out i'm the granddaughter of a factory worker who came to work as the young immigrant. here i am three generations later asking people toote for me to become their president and we have this amazing 15 month grandchild with another on the way next summer. and so i think a lot about the future, but i think not just about her future -- because we're going to do everything we can to make sure she has the best life can offer -- but i think about the kind of country and the world that will be out there waiting for. and i want to make sure the it is not just our child but any child who can go as far as possible. and a lot of that depends on the kind of decision ours presidents make. and it faktakes a village. i understand that. but do you have children's
healthcare. do kids have good education? i'm for early childhood because too many kids come to school unprepared. college affordability? too many kids can't afford it. they are being weeded out. i want to be the president that unleashes that potential again. >> when you think about your grandchild's future are you worried or are you hopeful? >> i'm always hopeful. this when i listen to the negative comments made about our country on the campaign stage, predominantly by the republicans, look at what we've come back from. it was a republican administration under which we had the great recession. that is just a fact. president obama inherited a economy that was losing 800,000 jobs a month. i don't think he gets the credit he deserves for digging us out and getting us standing again.
b i am absolutely committed to the belief i have that our country is strong and smart and we can do anything. i'm confident about the future. >> thank you so much. >> let's bring in chris cuomo. i know you are fluent in political speak. whether did you hear the secretary clinton saying. >> very much on message. i thought you did a very good demonstration on the plus minus. whats the plus? she knows how to do the job. she's been so close to it in ways nobody can compete with the field. andish -- and where do you go with that? she goes right to work. and that is an understanding of the job. that is the plus. what is the minus? she's so closely tied to moments in history that are polarizing,
whether on the personal level what she lived through with her husband or on the political level with what that administration represented and her o her role up to this point. and that is so baked in that it makes her an interesting proposition to voters. wh which part do you latch on. and you did a really good job on that alisyn, even they i hate to compliment you. and you did a really good job. >> we should have some wage owner something like this where you should have to pay up. >> maybe i have to give you the look right now. don't forget about the wager we made if i give you the look alisyn. >> i'm's fascinated with the before and after the scenes. she comes across on air as comfortably confident. tell me about the behind the scenes quickly. >> i had never met her before in person. it is always fascinating to meet
politicians different in person than in public. her body language was more comfortable. her staff was come on we got to go. and she had other stories she wanted to stay and talk about. and it was a very wide-ranging bv. no rules. no ground rules. i appreciated. it was great to talk to her. one quick programming note. donald trump joins erin burnett tonight at 7:00 eastern here an cnn. >> currently most of the country is under the spell of a potential $1.5 billion wind fall. look at the line ups we are seeing. droves of people trying to get their ticket. just hours away. we'll give you a look at the live frenzy taking over the nation. all across the state the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades,
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what is the story currently gripping the nation? not the state of the union? or the race? it is the powerball frenzy. a whopping $1.5 billion is up for grabs. some are even traveling to other states for their chance. we begin in georgia on the border with alabama. there is a steady lineup of people behind you trying to get their ticket. >> right now i'm holding on to spot number three in line.
but let tell you. looks can be deceiving as everyone pretty much agrees around here that this will pretty much be one of the busiest stores in georgia. the alabama state line only a few mile from here. so people in those states are now hitting the road and driving across state lines hoping to get a chance of the $1.5 billion pie. people making the quick stop this morning. many saying really you need at least the ticket to have a chance. and what's interesting here, some people even spent the night here hoping to be the first to grab their tickets today. >> really? that's incredible. be honest with me. how many tickets did you get? show them, come on. >> at this point i -- i guess i
should show them at this point -- >> i trust you. we go from georgia now to new york city where lines of ticket buyers are standing anxiously ready to buy their ticket. and phil mattingly, wow, quite a crowd behind you. >> it took all of about 2:00 for the five registers behind me to be six or seven people deep and that's been all day. and not only is the is this the busiest seller in new york but also a sell ore f winning tickets. $58 million here just last year. we talked to a couple of people with their strategies. and one person is all in. take listen. >> first thing i'm going to do is i'm gonna retire. because i commute to and from work two and a half hrs a day each way. i'm tired of this.
i'm too old. i can't do this anymore. i have a ton of tickets at home right now. over $200 worth of powerball tickets. first thing i'm going to do is retire and then i'm moving someplace warm. >> someplace warm sounds good on a day like today. one other note, just last week there was a ticket here with a $50 thousand winner. the lines are long and doesn't look like they are going to be decreasing at all over the next couple of hours. >> i imagine they will get even busier. we've been asking at home what you would co-if you want. michael lewis tweeted he'd brag about how i negotiated $2 into 1.3 billion and run for president in 2024. on twitter, either travel a motor coach home and travel the u.s. full time and hire chris
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affairs. this is trump upping the ante and saying hillary clinton is an enabler of sexual assault. does she need to respond to this? >> i don't think so. i think she's doing exactly the right thing. i think she needs to take the high road. let other people debate it. let other people take into account. and i think frankly, that calling. any woman who's husband has indiscretions an enabler i think it makes a lot offis cringe. it is cringe inducing. i think hillary clinton knees needs do exactly what she's doing. >> vann, do you think voters are paying attention to that line of attack? >> it is hard to know, but you did' a correlation of these attacks and the stumbling and the stuttering in the democratic primary. at some point they have to have
a better strategy of dealing with this. i think they are whistling past the graveyard on. this is below the belt and unfair. but you are dealing with donald trump and you are dealing with a republican party that does not want to see another clinton elected. they need a better strategy. >> let's talk about the gop side of the race because there is this new des moines poll out this morning that shows something interesting happening in iowa. ted cruz is winning there still but he's down from last month. do you think trump's attacks on where cruz was born is resonating? >> i think they are resonating. we keep talking about them. ted cruz has got to keep answering about them. so i think, you know, he is having an effect. we're going to see these polls go up and down, flukt fluctuate
a little bit here and there a lot between now and february 1st. what everybody has do now at this point is check the boxes. they have to make sure the ground troops are going strong and leave it all on the field. they have to do retail politicking, which matters a lot in iowa. they have to have a very good debate tomorrow night. leave a good lasting impression before the caucuses. so the polls, it is our job to obsess about them daily. the candidates, it is their job to leave it o all on the field. >> the polls suggest in iowa and new hampshire that hillary clinton might lose those states now to to bernie sanders. what fw that happens? is this deja vu all over again if she loses iowa? >> well first of all clintons no how to win -- know how to lose iowa and new hampshire and go on to win. bill clinton lost and went on to
win. but something extraordinary is happening here. a full on rebellion at the grassroots party of the democratic party. move on.org indorsied bernie sanders last night. overwhelmingly. 67%. and i don't think the clinton campaign understands that part of the reason that bernie is rising is there is a concern about this inauthenticity question. well if your main problem with the base is that you are not authentic, don't waste chelsea clinton on an inauthentic attack. there is no way you can attack from the left on healthcare bernie sande bernie sanders. there is no way you can convince the americans bernie sanders doesn't care about healthcare.
he's likely now to win both iowa and new hampshire because the base is getting frustrated with the clinton campaign. >> van, anna, thanks so much. we'll talk to you again. appreciate it. thanks so much for watching today. "newsroom" right after this very short break with carol costello. , we can help guide your retirement savings. so wherever your retirement journey takes you, we can help you reach your goals. call us or your advisor t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
happening now in the "newsroom." >> this is one of the things that makes a commander's gut churn a little. >> iran -- >> i don't think the timing of this two naval vessels in the persian gulf is incidental. >> and also. >> the president of the united states. >> one last time. >> the state of our union is strong. >> president obama tries to calm republicans fears and takes a dig at americans who want his job. and pandemonium. >> i ain't got to work again no more. >> lines of daydreamers are out the door. >> first i'm going to retire and then move someplace warm. >> don't quit your day jobs just yet. let's talk, live in the cnn "newsroom." >> and good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you so