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good evening. 9:00 p.m. here in new york. million dollar question time. late word confirmed by cnn on more than a million dollars he got from a senate campaign. remember he told a story of liquidating his family's net worth to finance the senate campaign. he did not tell the story or disclose it to federal election officials. tonight, we're learning details and hearing from the cruz campaign. chief political correspondent dana bash talked to them. what have you learned? >> you kind of take a step back why this is so important. ted cruz spent months and months, years building a brand of somebody who is an outsider, poppest and talks about washington but signaling to
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supporters, new york, too which is why a headline saying he got alone from goldman sachs, a place where his wife works is not something that his campaign talks about. she's been a very successful banker at goldman sachs. got a loan and that in part helped pay for his insurging campaign. that's not something that's helpful this close to the iowa caucuses. i asked him about that. listen to what he said. senator, how do you explain to your supporters that you got a very large loan from your wife's wall street bank to fund your upstart senate campaign? >> well, the premise of your question is not right. >> reporter: you didn't get a loan? >> the premise of your question is not right. heidi and i made the decision to put our liquid net worth into the campaign. we do so through a combination of savings, liquidating savings and had a broker account and so
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those loans have been disclosed over and over and over again on multiple filings. if it was the case they were not filed as required, we'll amend the filings but the information has been public and transparent for many years and that's the end of that. >> reporter: that's the end of that. that's certainly where ted cruz wants this to be. i will say that i spoke to some senior official at one of his rival campaigns. this is somebody, anderson, who spent a lot of time trying to tear down ted cruz. he thought this was in his words a non-issue and even a cheap shot he said to me there are lots of other things to get cruz on this and this probably isn't one of them. >> it so happens donald trump is hammering him about being eligible to be president. what does the cruz camp make of that? >> reporter: to see the shift inside the cruz campaign and more specifically from cruz
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himself from last week when donald trump began to hammer him on the idea he's not eligible to be president because he was born in canada, a shift is amazing. i was in iowa with him last week trying to brush it off as a joke. he's not doing that anymore. listen to what he told us on that issue. >> you know, it's very interesting this issue did not seal to concern donald until a little over a week ago when suddenly he was trailing in the polls in iowa and i understand. mr. trump and other candidates in the race being disturbed that conservatives are coming together and when they are disturbed, they try to raise whatever attacks they can. >> reporter: maybe that's true, but the other reality is that as this has gone on, whether it's related or not, we're not really sure. ted cruz had a pretty sizable lead in iowa that has gone down in the past week or so in many polls so as that happened, we've seen cruz more aggressively
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respond to donald trump, one of his aids told me tonight that it just wants to show that he's not going to take hits lying down but that is different from what he did just a couple weeks ago when he just said he's not going to go back and have personal attacks on anybody even and especially donald trump. >> yeah, dana bash, thanks very much. let's dig deeper with nia mallika henderson and jeffrey lord and anna navarro. jeffrey is a trump supporter and regan white house political director and rubio friend. jeffrey, you're a trump supporter but how big of a problem could the news about this goldman sachs loan be for senator cruz and do you expect trump to hit him over it since they are in such a dead heat right now? >> sure, less -- yes to the latter. i'm sure he will. i would expect so. there are three problems. one is the substance of it and, you know, this will immediately get into the deep weeds here of, you know, should have he have
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reported? is it legal? not legal. this leads to the political problem from the natural born citizen thing an issue in the sense that it detracts from whatever message he's going to have to spend time as he did with dana discussing this when i'm sure he wants to discuss other things and three, there is an out lyer, goldman sachs is involved and being a big wall street certainly his wife's ties were known to this. i'm not in the least implying anything bad. politically, that by itself is an issue with some people and maybe this will rev that up. he's got a problem i think on three different fronts. >> right. anna, to jeffrey's last point, cruz is hitting donald trump for like new york values, i think, was the term he's been using. i mean, god man sacks sort of you can argue the heart of new york values if you think new york values are in someway
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negative. >> well, i guess he can argue wall street financial firms don't have values. you know, anderson, as i was listening to the story, i heard ted cruz tell the story many times about how he liquidated his family's assets and mortgaged his house and went to his wife and they together made a decision to put all these assets on the line. i never heard the goldman sachs line. in the same way, yes, some months ago, donald trump was not at all bothered by ted cruz having been born in canada. i would say ted cruz was not at all bothered a few months ago by donald trump having new york values. i remember that big meeting they had. i think ted cruz was thinking donald trump was not going to hang in this and he was going to be able to inherit his supporters. now they are running against each other and it changed. ted cruz is surging in iowa and
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going to get attacks. this is the race for presidency. everything is fair and love and war and a republican primary is war. >> it will be interesting to see on the debate stage tomorrow night how trump and cruz deal with each other. in the past we've seen them back off when they are on stage face-to-fa face-to-face. he told trump told erin burnet he won't bring up the issue of cruz' citizenship and eligibility. >> he probably won't be trump bringing it up. he tends to like, to fight off the debate stage in rallies or on twitter but certainly i imagine it will come up with those moderators. it is on the minds of people at this point even though 85% of likely caucus goers in iowa said it isn't of concern, it doesn't bother them, this issue of cruzs citizen ship and eligibility for the presidency. 15% of iowa caucus goers said it
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did bother them and we're talking here about a contest that's going to be likely decided on the slimmest of margins. if you look back at 2012, especially 100 votes, less than 100 votes separated mitt romney from santorum and you're talking about roughly 125,000 people who show up at the polls so these kinds of little dings, not only the citizenship issue and eligibility issue as i think it's probably going to be a settled matter in the minds of most voters, youed a that to this attack. >> do you think senator cruz' attack about new york values will resonate with rural conservatives in iowa? >> well, you know, in truth, anderson, i didn't think it would go very far because donald trump is such a known commodity and, you know, there is a lot of glamor attached to this, not unlike jfk and when he first
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became president. but now with this latest story, just as you pointed out here when you have him out there pounding away at new york values and he gets $1 million or whatever it is from goldman sachs, yeah, you can get some interest in this and not to his favor, i would suspect. >> anna, i want to play a clip of something president obama said in nebraska. he didn't mention trump by name but people interpreted this. >> the first amendment is important. the first amendment is value. so we do have to be cautious about suggesting that any time somebody says something, you know, we shut them down. let me say this, that doesn't mean that you go around insulting people. >> it's interesting. the second day obviously at the state of the union address last night, the president made certainly comments which applied
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to donald trump. do you think that -- does it actually help donald trump to have president obama who so many donald trump supporters do not like coming after their candidate? >> hell yes, it should be music to donald trump's ears to have president obama go after him even if it's not by name. look, donald trump exists as a viable candidate in the republican party today as a direct result of president obama of sen years of president obama who republicans view as somebody who is politically correct, who is deliberate, who doesn't act, who is weak and you got donald trump who is the exact opposite brash, bluster, politically incorrect and they are embracing that because they are fed up with the seven years of what they see as president obama's weaknesses and lack of leadership. so, you know, i'm beginning to think that president obama really does want donald trump to be the nominee if he keeps criticizing him by name or not
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name, he's helping him become that nominee. >> nia, you see this des moines register bloomberg poll, statistical dead heat with cruz losing ground in the past month. cruz had been gaining ground. do you think it is because of these attacks by trump on the eligibility issue? >> you know, trump has figured a way to diminish opponents starting with jeb bush and now on ted cruz so it does look like this is gaining some traction. cruz has other problems in iowa, as well, coming out against ethanol subsides and one of them people in iowa don't like that. and so i think trump has been very clever here even though he sort of makes it seem like someone else brought it up, he'll run with it and today he tweeted sadly he thinks that ted cruz is eligible. i'm sure he's really sad.
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less than three weeks to go. >> thank you. coming up tonight, an update to a story we've been following since last year. theospital in florida with a death rate for pediatrics was three times average. political donations it made and the latest numbers on powerball sales. wait until you hear how many have been sold in the past hour. check in with last-minute ticket buyers and fuel your day dreams with people that won the lottery before. ? it's a great school, but is it the right one for her? is this really any better than the one you got last year? if we consolidate suppliers, what's the savings there? so should we go with the 467 horsepower? ...or is a 423 enough? good question. you ask a lot of good questions... i think we should move you into our new fund. sure... ok. but are you asking enough about how your wealth is managed? wealth management at charles schwab.
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the next powerball drawing is less than two hours away. how massive tickets sales are according to a texas lottery official, 100, $9$100, $954,000. the staff chipped in for a bunch of tickets. we'll have a show either way tomorrow. don't worry. miguel marquez has been out talking to people. let's check in with him. it is crowded, miguel. >> reporter: yeah, it kind of goes, comes and goes but it's getting crowded now that it's coming down to the end. this is deep in the station. the busiest and it has been jammed all day long. what are you going to do?
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>> i'm going to donate some to charity and donate some to my father in law because he needs it. >> reporter: and maybe the jets. >> and the jets. >> reporter: because they can use help. >> they can get a quarterback. >> reporter: this place -- how busy has it been today? >> crazy. >> reporter: look, despite the odds on this thing, you have a better chance of getting. what i'm going to do with my lottery money is have my apartment gold plated at timewarner center and that might be a sensible thing to do, yes? >> no matter what the jackpot goes up to, the odds of winning small stay the same, right? >> reporter: tiny, tiny, tiny odds. they stay the same. there are some differences. 29 292 million-1.
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you have a better chance of drowning. you have a better chance of being hit by lightning while drowning than winning this lottery but hey, we live in hope. i have actually -- i've told everybody to go home because i have the winning ticket here. >> how many tickets have you bought, miguel? >> reporter: well, i keep getting texts from people at work saying get me one. i keep buying them. i have three or four at this point. i'm not telling what the numbers are. >> miguel marquez, thanks very much. we know that the chances of hitting the jackpot as miguel said are not good. if you win it doesn't guarantee happiness. we brought you stories of people that won and lives ruined which we realize is a debbie downer. in light of tonight's drawing, we're not going to dash your day dreams but take a look at times winning was actually a good thing. i imagine that. >> reporter: violet and alan retired in 1983. after 27 years of retirement,
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they won canada's atlantic lottery receiving a check for over 11 million canada dollars. >> we're country hicks and we're not going to -- we're not travelers so why keep the money and give it to the government? >> reporter: instead, they gave it to others. almost all of it went to more than 60 public organizations. huge donations to places such as hospitals and fire stations. >> we hadn't bought one thing. that's it because there's nothing that we need. >> reporter: gloria mckenzie won a huge powerball jackpot in 2013 at the age of 84 after moving from maine to florida. she cleared $278 million after taxes. and did not forget her hometown of maine. she donated $1.8 million to the local high school that was likely to be closed because of a leaking roof. >> without that, the school was going to die. it was not going to have a
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school in the long run and i think with this, we'll be able to keep the school going for awhile. >> for all of our winners. >> reporter: and then there are the albany seven. seven new york state government worker whose split a $319 million jackpot in 2011 in the mega millions lottery. this man and his wife decided to give back to their community, too. they donated $200,000 to construct a spray park in new york and did it in honor of their parents. another very generous canadian is tom crist, he won $40 million in 2013 and his first donation was $1.2 million to the tom baker cancer center in calgary. his wife janice had died of cancer a year before. he vowed all his winnings would ultimately go to charity. >> i know where the money is going. i'm not keeping a dime. she would be 100% behind it. that's who she was. she was a very giving person.
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you can ask anybody that knows her, any of her friends. that's just who she was and she made me a better person. there is no doubt about it. she would be ecstatic. >> reporter: where the largest gave away all their jackpot, some emergency money was kept for violet because she was diagnosed with cancer. >> we'll get through it one way or another. >> yeah. >> god willing. >> sadly, his wife passed away a year after the couple won the lottery. her name will live on because of the remarkable generosity. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> what an inedible coupcredibl a hospital where the death rate for children having heart surgery was three times the national average. you're not going to believe this. we're keeping them honest. my ho, on thanksgiving day and i have a massive heart attack right in my driveway. the doctor put me on a bayer aspirin regimen. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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keeping them honest, a story about a florida hospital where the death rate for pediatric surgeries was off the charts, three times the national average. >> reporter: just weeks into
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life. this tiny baby needed heart surgery. here at st. marys medical center dr. michael black performed the delegate procedure to narrow her aorta, a defect since birth. >> he made it seem like he was the best person to do this, yes. >> it was very, like, no sweat, don't worry about it, it's a walk in the park. >> reporter: but the surgery was a disaster. >> i looked at her and her legs had started -- they stiffened up a lot and started going in almost a table top position. >> reporter: after the surgery, layla was paralyzed. here she is today. the mccarthys had no idea their daughter's tragedy had a disturbing back story, one no one had told them. three months before her operation, a baby had died after heart surgery by dr. black and five months before that, alexander gutierrez died and a month and a half before that,
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kiari sanders passed away. >> it's horrible that you go into a program like that and they can be dishonest with you and don't feel the need to tell you what happened there before. >> reporter: one week after the surgery that left layla paralyzed, amelia campbell died and parish wright a few months later and landon summer ford after that. dr. black rejected requests for an on camera interview so we tracked down a ceo mr. carbone to give him a chance to explain. it's elizabeth cohen at cnn. we want to know why what the death rate is for your babies at the pediatric heart hospital at your program. he also wouldn't answer the parents' question, why did so many babies die at st. mary's. last year a team of doctors from the state of florida's children's medical services evaluated the program.
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it was at the request of st. marys which sought to quote evaluate and identify opportunities for improvement. the head of the team dr. jeffrey jacobs, a professor after cardiac surgery at john hopkins, found st. marys is doing too few surgeries to get good at it. in the united states 80% of children's heart surgery programs performed more than 100 surgeries a year. each procedure giving them valuable expertise. but the review of st. mary's program shows in 2013, the hospital performed just 23 operations. it is unlikely that any program will be capable of obtaining and sustaining high quality when performing less than two operations per month dr. jacobs wrote. >> elizabeth's reporting sparked a federal investigation, a couple months later st. mary's shut down the pediatric heart program and state officials took action but not the kind many expect and elizabeth has information about political donations made by the company
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that owns st. mary's. elizabeth joins me. the standards, what's the state of florida done about it? >> you know, it's interesting. these standards in place, the report found that the hospital wasn't meeting them so the state of florida got rid of the standards. that's right -- >> they got rid of them. >> after the report came out this past summer, the state of florida moved -- >> i mean, why, i know you've been looking into it. what is behind the recent get rid of standards? >> you know, anderson, the doctors who take care of these babies with congenital heart defects say they think they smell a rat. they can't prove it but say look, the tainted health care gives large amounts of money, big donations to republicans that run the show in florida. so for example, look at contributions from tenant to rick scott. in 2014, tenant gave rick scott
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$50,000. that's twice the amount tenant gave any other candidate and other contributions to other republican lawmakers and republican congressional groups and it was a lot of money. it was way more than was given out to other states. >> what is tenant saying about it and the governor's office saying? >> so tenant and the governors say look, we never discuss these standards. we never discuss them with any elected officials and the state of florida says we have to get rid of these standards because the legislature never told us that we were allowed to have them. i said well, the standards were in place for 38 years, you know, now you're discovering that the legislature never said it was okay to have them? i didn't really get a direct answer to that question. >> i mean, it's incredible they have been around 38 years and just gone. the broader implications, i mean, doctors in florida you have spoken to, are they worried about getting rid of standards or it will cause real harm? >> they are and have been involved in legal cases to keep the standards. the standards are technically still there but currently on
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their way out and the doctors say look, they are there for a reason. they are difficult surgeries to do. you need certain pieces of equipment and certain kinds of training. they are there to protect children, especially babies who were born with terrible defects and they are horrified the state is trying to get rid of them. they are worried about the health of thousands of children born with conagain 'tgenital he defects. ten american soldiers are free. a video shows one of the sailors apologizing and thanking iran for hospitality. what we know about the video when we continue. ♪ ♪ those who define sophistication stand out. those who dare to redefine it stand apart. the all-new lexus rx and rx hybrid.
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today iran released the ten u.s. sailors but not before these images showing the sailors after their capture in the persian gulf yesterday on route to bahrain to kuwait. another video that iran aired today showed one of the sailors apologizing while president obama was giving his state of the union address, he didn't mention any of this. john kerry was working behind the scenes before the state of the union and after to secure the sailor's release.
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chief national security correspondent jim sciutto joins us with the latest. >> two of the key questions have been one, how did those sailors end up on their knees disarmed with their hands over their heads? that under duriess? at any point during this episode was an apology issued from the u.s. to iran? oddly enough, we got what could be an answer to both of those questions from an interview one of the sailors did with iranian state television while they were in custody. have a listen. >> it was a mistake. that was our fault and we apologize for our mistake. the iranian patrol boat came out when we were having engine issue issues and we tried to talk to them before more boats came. >> on the apology, u.s. officials say there is no official apology. anything that sailor said would
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be considered under duress, acting saying anything really just to protect his crew on the question of whether guns were drawn, that's the first time we've heard that, anderson, they are still debriefing the sailors that will take place tomorrow in the region. the navy waiting to get their hard answers to the questions. >> how does this compare to how the obama administration has been portraying it? >> you and i, everyone else looks at the images. it's hard to reconcile those sailors on their knees with this story of a diplomatic victory that we've heardrom secretary of state john kerry from the white house, even from the iranian side. they seem to be on point in terms of talking points there, but they are still saying administration officials listen, this could have lasted a lot longer and ended a lot worse if those diplomatic channels weren't open that being the result of those nuclear negotiations. >> again, the timing of all of this it's a very sensitive time obviously for u.s. iranian relations. >> no question. imagine beyond it being the state of the union last night,
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in the next few days, officials tell me is when they expect the iran nuclear deal to be implemented and that's when those sanctions, billions of dollars in sanctions on iran are going to be lifted so it seems that that could have been a big influence. the hard liners in iran did not want to lose that. >> jim sciutto, jim, thanks. a lot to discuss joining me is former commander of the uss cole who served on the joint chief of staff and bushed a machine station and fareed sa cz -- zakaria. they see this as a sign of progress and cooperation by the u.s. and iran. do you buy that? >> may be progress with respect to cooperation. the biggest concern is how iranians are treating it when you look at how they treated the sailors captured and i use that word specifically on their knees, hands behind the head, guns pointed at them, that's really not a sign of two nations
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that are treating each other with respect. >> fareed, what about that? not only doing that but releasing video of it and them captive. >> iran and the united states are adversaries. let's not make mistakes. we're adversaries in the persian gulf, in other parts of the region. the question is not, you know, would this be the same as if the united states navy had breached territorial waters with great britain or france? the question is given that they are adversaries, how was this resolved? in 2007 british boat ventured into iran's territory waters. the sailors were captured for 13 days and then if you remember the president paraded them and gave them free uniforms, clothes, you know, some kind of publicity stunt. this was very different. secretary kerry and the foreign minister on the phone five times. it was resolved peacefully and
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relatively amicably but peaceful and amicable management off a tense adversarial relation. >> commander, do you see the way it was handled as a violation of international law? >> i would say it came very, very close. when you look at what is required under the geneva convention when you parade these people about, when you show them their faces, when you have them on tv. when you extract apologies under duress, that is a violation of the geneva convention. when is the iranian ever have respect for the international law. you have to look at the recent over taking of the saudi embassy. they had a disregard since they came to power in 1979 and it continues today with the ballistic missile firings and firings next to the carrier within 1500 yards with a 23-minute notification. clearly, they have a disregard for international law and quite
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frankly don't care, which is what does make them a very dangerous adversary in the region. >> commander, stupid question, but had you become banding a ship and the iranians veered into u.s. waters and you take them into custody, would they have been handled differently than the iranians handled the u.s.? >> i think they would have been handled much differently. i think we would not have treated them the way you see our sailors being treated. we would not have paraded them about. we would have not had the video footage that's coming out. we would not have leveraged the incident immediately to the media because those are all things that violated international law under the geneva conventions. >> fareed, obviously, the context of this, this is right before sanctions against iran are about to be lifted. i mean, for those who want to see better relations, who are in favor of this iranian deal couldn't have happened at a worse time. >> it's a very tense time both in the region, you know, in the
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united states for a political season here but also in iran. it's very important to remember that the people who took these sailors, the revolutionary guard are the most hard line element within iran. they have been opposed to the nuclear deal and tried to arrest americans while it was going on including an american journalist, washington post correspondent known to be friendly with the foreign minister of iran. they tried all kinds of things to ensure that even if there were a deal, it would not result in any kind of fall in relations and so you have to imagine that when they found this opportunity, the revolutionary guard did decide they would try to in someway embarrass not just the united states but president rohani trying to work a better relationship with the united states. >> commander, a lot is being made of the fact the sailor apologized for going into
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territorial waters. is there something else he should have done in that situation? do you make of that? >> well, anderson, i think it could be a sign of a larger issue within the united states navy and while there is an investigation going on and we should wait for the facts to come out. you know, a lot of it is you have code of conduct training for the sailors. the sailors did undergo the training but the reality is they no longer sit down and talk to them about it. how do you do your code of conduct training? a quick online course when you finish you get a little quiz, finish the quiz and you're done. instead of having a real chat with these young men and women about the impact of their behavior can have given how the media works today, given the kind of international impact that this kind of incident could have. plus you have the larger picture, anderson, in that where this boat was transiting, how did it get that far out into the gulf? was the mission for this boat? who ordered that mission?
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once it was there and if in fact there was a break down like we're starting to hear may have happened, why didn't the other boat take them under tow? they have satellite communications capability. why weren't they talking to headquarters to say we have broken down. we need help. we're drifting toward iranian waters. there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. >> fareed zakaria, appreciate both of you. thank you. just ahead, hundreds of children taken by isis, many forced to go to training to become isis fighters and some escaped and one is speaking out sharing gruesome details of what he says he was forced to do. in my business i cbailing me out my i.all the time... i'm not the i.t. guy. i'm the desktop support tech supervisor. and my customers knowing right when their packages arrive. introducing real-time delivery notifications. learn more at myusps.com
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sinjar's mayor has traveled with us to show us what remains of his city. when isis swept through his yazidi homeland where the men, women, and children were rounded up from the villages were driven. we go to the earth defenses circling the town. this was the site of an isis massacre. [ speaking foreign language ]. >> it breaks his heart, he says to leave the bones exposed like this to the elements. but no one has come to investigate, no one has come to document, so they don't want to undermine any findings. this grave is one of the hundreds, he tells us here is where they buried the women and the children. the young boys who refused to accompany isis, who refused to be conscripted as child soldiers. eyewitnesss say that the victims in these graves, more than 130
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people had been singled out for transfer to a town. they refused. you can see the cloth ties that bound the victims' hands, both young and old, the prayer beads clutched until the final moments, the bullets fired by the executioners. a refugee camp in northern iraq. those who've managed to flee isis have found refuge here. cnn has found the abduction of 600 children. around 200 have since escaped and are sheltering in camps like this one across the kurdish region, returning to describe the brutality. this 11-year-old is one of the lucky ones. his family were abducted the day of the sinjar massacre. once he he refused to join the
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training. isis fighter broke his leg in three places. when it healed he could only limp. they asked me to go to the mountain, he says and i refused. again, and then they broke my leg. that saved me. the other children were taken by force. he says the fighters deemed him useless. that saved his life. his 5-year-old brother was terrified from the beginning, subjected to daily beatings. their life in the isis camp is something no one -- no child -- should ever have to endure. the children's grandmother says the boys described watching as militants murdered other children who refused to train. [ speaking foreign language ] he tells us they are utterly
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traumatized. he wakes up screaming through the night screaming that he is being choked and he suffers from seizures. they were by some miracle released by isis. back at the outskirts of town in the distance we can see smoke rising from a mortar strike into an isis encampment. mass graves honeycomb the valley leading to their territory. on the ground the mayor spots a fragment of what appears to be a child's skull. delicately, reverently, he places it on top of the grave. one day, he tells us he hopes it will be safe enough for investigators to come and help them identify the children under this rubble. >> so why is isis going after these kids? in what way are they being used?
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>> we saw in ramadi and baghdad after the fall of ramadi there is a since that isis are increasingly under pressure. so what they're doing is they're using every able bodied and experienced adult fighter they can. and in their place they are using the children in the sentry posts and using them in the front wave of their ranks as suicide bombers and speaking to some of the kurdish peshmerga forces facing isis they say they are seeing waves on waves of children coming at them strapped with these explosive devices and some of these men were just so traumatized to have to make that decision, either i think i'm going to die at the hands of a child or i'm going to have to be the person that takes that child's life. >> it is just so horrific to see these poor kids. thank you very much, be careful. we're going to have more ahead. up next, exclusive details
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breaking news about the secret meeting that sean penn pulls off in the middle of the hunt for joaquin guzman known as el chapo. a mexican actress helped arrange
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a meeting. penn wrote about it in a rolling stone article that aired the day after he was captured. penn went to great lengths to keep the interview secret. but we have information about what mexican and u.s. officials knew about the actors's plans. what have you learned? >> we learned that u.s. law enforcement knew about this connection that sean penn had with el chapo before his capture but they suspected he was perhaps trying to broker a movie deal before sean penn went to mexico in october. communications he had with kate del castillo garnered attention from u.s. law enforcement. and mexican law enforcement found text messages between dell castillo and el chapo. sean penn went to mexico but
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authorities lost track of the actor. they suspected that he was on his way to meet el chapo in an location where an operation was about to take place and that operation was delayed. i spoke to the attorney general today she made it clear that she wants el chapo back here in u.s. soil. >> and the mexican actress you are learning more about her involvement? >> she was texting with el chapo leading up to the visit that she had in mexico with sean penn. it seemed like el chapo had an obsession with her. he was a fan of the show she was on where she was involved with a drug kingpin. they were exchanging text messages and it appears she was going to el chapo and saying you should talk to sean penn, this actor. he didn't know who he was. but there was a tie between el chapo and dell castillo and sean
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penn and del castillo. >> that was does it for us. thanks for watching. another edition of "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. the power ball of candidates firing up the crowd in florida as only he can. >> nikki haley a very nice woman she said i'm an angry person. they said you to are an angry person? i thought i am i hate what's happening to our country. i'm very angry. >> this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. trump sounding confident as always but there is a battle raging for the heart and soul of the gop tonight. and nikki haley just might be the voice of the opposition. >> when you get loud, when you get angry, the work stops. things stop moving.