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overnight, republicans going after each other with gusto. with just four days before the iowa caucuses, conspicuous by his absence, donald trump holding an event miles away for veterans. without trump, sparks were flying. seven candidates spearing each other and even the moderators. >> it's not my question you get a chance to respond to. it says answer. you don't get 30 seconds to respond to me. you don't get 30 seconds to respond to me. sir, i know you like to argue about the rules, but we will conduct the debate. >> what is particularly insulting is he is the king of saying oh, you're for amnesty. everybody's for amnesty except ted cruz. that is an authenticity problem. >> this is the problem that ted's campaign touches on. he is the most conservative
candidate and everybody else is a rino. now you want to trump trump on immigration. we cannot beat hillary clinton and say or do anything to win an election. >> i'm confused. he was the sponsor of the gang of eight bill that required a bunch of thresholds, but allowed for citizenship. >> you used to support a path to citizenship. >> so did you, marco. >> i guarantee you one thing, she will never get within ten miles of the white house. the days of clintons in public housing are over. >> cnn's sara murray was at the debate. >> reporter: good morning, christine and boris, donald trump's decision to stay out of the debate left more room for the moderators. >> when you ran for senate in 2010, you made clear you opposed
legalization and citizenship for illegal immigrants. within two years of getting elected, you were co-sponsoring a path to citizenship, in your words, amnesty. haven't you proven you cannot be trusted? >> no, you look at the quote and it is specific. blanket amnesty. >> you said more than that, sir. >> i said i do not support. >> you said earn the path to citizenship is code. >> in the time was in 2009 and 2010. >> reporter: some candidates and staffers say donald trump's decision to stay out of the debate yielded a more respectful debate. >> i think the disdain and arrogance that trump showed by not coming, may turn off iowa
voters. they say one-third are voters are undecided. we think the youth vote will come to us. we think they don't want the government collecting their phone records. >> reporter: whether this hurts trump or not in iowa is an open question. a number of his risky moves put a back fire on almost every other candidate in the race have sent his numbers higher. back to you boris and christine. thank you, sara. let's sort through the winners and losers. for that, we turn to jeremy diamond in the washington bureau. jeremy, good morning to you. the big elephant not in the room. donald trump. we felt the other candidates go after him. let's listen to what they said. >> i'm a maniac and everyone on this stage is stupid, fat and ugly. and ben, you're a terrible surgeon. now that we've gotten the donald trump portion out of the way.
>> i kind of miss, donald trump. he's a little teddy bear to me. we always had a loving relationship in the debates. i wish he was here. >> let's begin by being clear. this is not about donald trump. he is an entertaining guy. the greatest show on earth. this campaign is about the greatest country in the world and the system has destroyed what made america special. >> jeremy, what happened? >> what a split screen experience we had last night. you know, with donald trump holding his own event raising money for veterans and having the two former winners of the iowa caucuses, rick santorum and mike huckabee, current candidates, standing at his side. as far as the other candidates are concerned, certainly ted cruz became the big target on stage last night. you know, he literally took the
place of trump at center stage during the debate. that certainly helps to elevate his status. you know, he was dealing with punches from -- fighting with the moderators and other candidates. that benefitted him. i think he could have done better as far as really looking like the alternative frontrunner to donald trump because he did struggle at times it seems with some responses and didn't seem as well prepared as he maybe could have been. certainly, you know, some of the candidates got room to shine. rand paul got a chance to push his message forward than in the past. he was more out of trump's shadow. >> i want to play a sound where he and chris wallace tussled. >> marco, please attack ted.
jeb, please attack ted. let me just say this. >> it doesn't debate, sir. >> a debate is a policy issue. i will say this, gosh, if you guys ask one more mean question, i may have to leave the stage. >> he got a big round of applause for that. i thought the moderators were pretty tough. at one point, even playing back a montage of sound of shifting position of amnesty and pathway to citizenship. >> he got the tape. i think the moderators were tough. especially megyn kelly. she had been under scrutiny because of donald trump. she was fantastic as pressing hard questions and knowing her stuff and testing the candidates. going back to them when they said something that was false which was really strong.
i think that you know, all of the candidates maybe went back and forth with the moderators. it made it more interesting. i think something was missing. a spark missing perhaps in donald trump's absence. >> imagine what donald trump's montage. >> we heard cruz get applause there. he made a few jokes. a lot of laughter. how big of a priority is it for him to shed this image that he is unlikable? >> he needs to make sure he is not defined by donald trump like jeb bush has been defined. he said he is more stridant and worse than obama. i think ted cruz is working to pull off a few jokes. he did that by mocking donald trump and quickly discarding him. i think ted cruz's focus was on
the looking like the frontrunner and showing command of the issues and talking to iowans a few days from the caucuses as he is in a tight race with trump. according to the polls, they appear to be widening. i think he is focused on iowans and appearing the frontrunner and looking like the quote true conservative in the race which has been the core of his message. >> interesting the marco rubio, his plea, i guess or making his case to those iowa evangelical voters. listen to this sound and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> let me be clear about one thing. there is only one savior and it is not me. it is jesus christ. the bible commands us to shine on the world. for over 200 years, the
america's light has been shining on the world. >> why do americans donate millions to charity? it is because in this nation, we are influenced by judeochristian challenge y values. >> he may as well say i love iowa. evangelicals are a huge part of the republican primary voters in iowa. and you know, he was making a play for them. i don't think that marco rubio thinks he can win the iowa caucuses, necessarily. it looks like it is between trump and cruz. a strong third place finish could go far with momentum and as far as it is concerned with appearing to be the most viable establishment contender. you remember marco rubio and jeb bush and chris christie and john kasich are still fighting each other to see which one can emerge as the establishment alternative to donald trump and
ted cruz. and marco rubio certainly is making the case. if he can do well in iowa and do well in a state that is conservative like that, he can harness both sides and bridge the divide. >> jeremy diamond, thank you. we will talk to you in a few minutes. late night for everybody. 11 minutes past the hour. three dangerous inmates who broke out of the california jail on the run this morning. a woman police say helped them escape has been arrested.
there is still no sign of three inmates one week after they broke out of a jail in orange county, california. now a woman who taught english as a second language at the jail is under arrest suspected of helping the inmates mount a daring escape. we have more from paul vercammen. >> reporter: the woman began working here at the jail teaching english as a second language in july. in a group class setting, she met nayeri and they developed some sort of relationship. she helped them escape by providing him with mapping capability. >> at this point, there is no confirmation she brought tools into the jail. she is denying having brought the tools. what we know, she provided google maps. >> reporter: the sheriff's lieutenant also said the
attempted murder suspect duong stole a white van on sunday. apparently duong was taking that van on a test drive by a single owner when he did not return it. police believe all three of the fugitives may be somehow living in that van. christine and boris. >> thank you, paul. the standoff in the oregon wildlife refuge is not over. police are still talking to the people inside hoping to bring the nearly month-long occupation to a safe resolution. video was released from protest leader ammon bundy that led to the shooting of a follower. the video is proof the shooting was justified. ethan couch, the affluenza
teen, is back in the u.s. he returned from mexico after he fled violating probation in a dui crash that killed four people. a hearing on transferring his case from juvenile to adult court is set for next month. his mom, tonya couch, charged with hindering, is out on bail. michigan's governor facing a controversy in the lead contamination crisis. documents show the governor's office started trucking coolers of water to state workers in flint last january. he did not acknowledge the problem until october. $600 million is set aside for residents by the federal government. and an ohio lawmakers s demanding answers in the town of
sebring. epa says they knew about the lead in the water in november. it wasn't until last week that sebring residents were told of the lead levels. and what a difference a week makes. now the east coast is pretty warm. the snow set to hit the rockies, is now warming up. let's get to meteorologist derek van dam. >> 59 in kansas city. chilly along the east coast, but things will warm up through the weekend. look at sunday's forecast for the big apple. the big thaw continues. 47 for new york city. what a difference a week makes. record-breaking snowfall on saturday. compare that to what we are expecting saturday afternoon this weekend. a clipper system could bring a few snowshowers to the upper great lakes. a few flakes fly on friday for
new york city. as we focus out west, this is our major snowmaker which will develop across southern california and eventually move into the plain states. this is a potential for a mid week snowstorm across iowa and nebraska. details still emerging from that. there is also the potential from severe thunderstorms for the gulf states. look at the models. back to you. futures are coming off solid gains yesterday. you have european stock markets higher. a rally in asia overnight. that sparked by a surprise move, really a dramatic move from the bank of japan. bank of japan announcing negative interest rates to encourage customer spending there. back in the u.s., the last trading day of january. most investors are happy to close the books on the brutal month. the dow and s&p 500 on track to
post the worst monthly drop since may of 2010. the nasdaq is worse losing 10%. the worst performance since 2008. how are real people faring? 1 in 10 investors made money in january. the average loss is 7.6%. according to our partners at openfolio. they will pay you to borrow money and charge you to take money out. >> interesting. declaring a threat of alarming proportion. health officials are warning the zika virus is exploding and could soon infect millions. we have new developments next.
the president calling for to unite against the threat. 12 cases have been confirmed in the states on people who traveled to where the virus is more widespread. experts main concern here is for pregnant women and babies who may be born with a condition called microcephaly. cnn's shasta darlington is at a clinic in brazil with women who fear their babies have already been infecteinfected. >> reporter: the world is waking up to learn about this, this is the reality they are learning in brazil at the hospital. they turned this area in a triage center. receiving babies with microcephaly. doctors are treating them and looking for signs of brain damage and how deep that damage really goes. doctors are scrambling to put together the early stimulation
programs and physical therapy that babies with microcephaly and counselling for families. because there is no vaccine, there is no cure. brazil is trying to combat the mosquitoes that transmit this. according to the w.h.o., 1.5 million people have been infected. what we are seeing is a lot of panicked, expected mothers. many fear they won't know until the day they give birth that they have been infected. shasta darlington, cnn, brazil. thank you, shasta. more u.s. troops need to be sent to iraq and syria to defeat isis. they say to deal the lasting crushing blow to isis, the pentagon says additional forces are needed to work with iraqi and kurdish fighters on the
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competing event. the big moments of the night and who made the best case to iowa voters before they caucus. welcome back to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm boris sanchez. running for president and going after each other with gusto on the debate stage in des moines four days before the iowa caucuses. conspicuous by his absence, donald trump holding his competing event miles away. even without trump, the sparks were flying. seven republican candidates spearing democrats, each other and at times the fox moderators. >> it's not my question you get a chance to respond to. it is his answer. you don't get 30 seconds to respond to me. >> your question is you disagree -- >> you don't get a chance to respond to me. sir, i know you like to argue about the rules, but we will conduct the debate. >> what is insulting is he is
the king of you are for amnesty. it is a falseness. that is an authenticity problem. >> this is the lie that ted's campaign is built on and rand touched on it. he is the most conservative guy and everyone else is a rino. i want to bring people out of the shadows. now you want to trump trump on immigration. you can't say or do anything like hillary clinton, to win an election. >> you were part of the gang of eight bill that required the thresholds and allowed for citizenship over a period of time. >> you used to support a path to citizenship. >> so did you. >> i guarantee you one thing, she will never get within ten miles of the white house. the days of the clintons in public housing are over. >> i think bernie sanders is a good candidate for president of sweden. >> cnn's sara murray was at the
debate. she has the latest. >> reporter: good morning. the decision to skip the debate left the moderators more room to drill at the rivals. in particular, marco rubio on the shifting positions on immigration. >> when you ran for senate in 2010, you made can here you opposed legalization and citizenship for illegal immigrants. you said you would oppose it as senator. within two years, of getting elected, you would co- sponsor the path to citizenship. in your words amnesty. haven't you proven you cannot be trusted? >> no, you look at the quote and it is specific. blanket amnesty. >> you said more than that, sir. >> no, i said i did not support blanket citizenship. >> you reported path to citizenship. >> at the time and context of that was 2009 and 2010. >> reporter: the decision to
skip the debate by donald trump was disdainful of iowa voters. >> i think the disdain and arrogance that trump showed by not coming may well turn off iowa voters. i think they want to hear from people. they say one-third of the voters is undecided. it is good to be here and make the argument. we think the youth vote will come to us. >> reporter: now whether donald trump's absence hurts him here in iowa is an open question. a number of his risky moves put a back fire on any other candidate in the race, have sent his numbers higher. we will see if that holds true this time. back to you, boris and christine. >> sara, thank you. let's sort through the winners and losers. to help us with that is jeremy diamond from our washington bureau. >> good morning. >> now the latest chapter with donald trump and fox news. he wasn't at the debate last night. he said that fox news apologized
to him for putting out a press release on him. here is what fox put out. trump offered to appear on the condition that fox news contribute $5 million to his charities. we explained that was not possible and could not engage in a quid pro quo. nor could any money change hands for any reason. that coming from fox news. jeremy, how much does this benefit donald trump to not be at the debate, but have his presence make such a statement? >> i think going into this, when donald trump on tuesday announced in marshalltown, iowa, i was there that he was not going to attend the debate. what is the fallout going to be? how will this affect him days before the iowa caucuses in the debate where he could be judged side by side with other candidates. is it seen as him running from a
fight? i think it was clear he came out the winner. he raised $6 million for v veterans. he had two presidential candidates at his side. all went well with him saying in interviews that fox news apologized to him. fox not denying that. fox saying trump put conditions forward that were not possible. you add to that he was still a presence at the stage casting a long shadow over the debate and all of that comes together to make donald trump the big winner. >> you know it is fitting in the donald trump brand. you know it is all about money and transactions and business deals for him. if he was going to show up, it was $5 million for his charities. he knows what ratings and ad
rates people get or he presumes to know. he wants in on that action. >> it is fascinating how he pointed it out. he called it as if he was fighting for himself like he would for the country. he said you need someone who will fight for the country. it is interesting how he spun that and said this is how i'll be a good president. >> the other part of the brand is the show biz brand. across town, he was noticing it was like the academy awards. >> we thought we would let them start and we wanted to be 15 minutes into the hour so by now they're all tuned in. look at the cameras like the an academy awards. this is the academy awards. we're actually told we have more cameras than they do by quite a bit. >> he is like the maestro.
executive producing des moines. >> that is classic trump. look at this. it is like the academy awards. he says they are all live. i don't know how he knows they are all live or not. last night, they were. you had fox news and then cnn and msnbc. then the candidates on stage could have taken this moment to shine. marco rubio, jeb bush, you know, this was their moment to say we're out of trump's shadow. we can show why we're the best option to be the nominee and seriousness that the republican party needs and deserves. jeb bush last night, he said he was missing donald trump as a joke. at some point, it seemed like he was. he did not have trump to spar with to be at the center of attention. i think he was almost poorly served by that fact.
marco rubio did well as he usually does. a smooth talker and command of foreign policy issues. he did not have a standout moment like he could have given donald trump's absence. >> jeremy, you mentioned jeb bush. he said he missed trump, but he seemed energized. trump labelled him and low energy. he seemed more relaxed. he was joking. is it too little too late to see this passion for his campaign? >> that's the question, of course, right? i think that donald trump has kind of been able to define jeb bush very early in the campaign as low energy. you know, it is interesting, it is not what voters come away with when they meet jeb bush in person for the first time. a lot of voters who attend jeb bush town hall meetings where he has 150 or 200 people in the room. a lot of times people come away saying i didn't expect so much out of him.
they come away with a really positive impression. that's just because donald trump through the media air waves has been able to define jeb bush as a low energy guy who is a bushie and all of the negative associations. it is sticking. >> it is interesting sparring with jeb bush and marco rubio. two people who exchanged words about whether they ever supported a path to citizenship. both positions have evolved on this. since 2009 and 2010. you had senators, marco rubio among them, who were trying to work out some immigration reform. that is just not -- when you look at the trump phenomena, the appetite in the trump supporters for immigration reform seems nonexistent. >> absolutely. it is interesting. jeb bush and marco rubio.
bush had a moment where you switched position on immigration. that did not help jeb bush, but it helped drag marco rubio down with him. if i'm not going to make it, neither are you. i don't know what -- marco rubio did not seem as prepared as he should have been for the immigration questions. i think ted cruz was more prepared for the controversy over whether or not he changed his position on the path to citizenship. that was interesting. >> now, jeremy, left fast forward to tuesday. we heard after iowa, we may see candidates, especially the second stage candidates, the undercard candidates, drop out. do you have any idea who may call it quits after monday? >> this is an election in which i have completely sworn off predictions. we have been wrong at every turn, especially with donald trump. not that i expect donald trump to drop out anytime soon. i have zero predictions.
don't put me in that position. >> i think all of those people in the campaigns, all of the well laid plans. >> you are not the only ones who has missed on predictions. we will see you in a half hour. >> thank you forg getting up early. the last trading day for investors in january with relief. stock markets around the world on higher. surging after a surprise interest rate cut from the bank of japan. it's a fitting end to the wild week. check out gains and losses of the dow's past five days. unbelievable. loyal has been the driver and moving swiftly. dow set to post the worst monthly performance since may of 2010. the health of the economy due at 8:30 a.m. eastern time. the first reading of the gdp in the fourth quarter. some analysts say this is the
sign the worst is behind us. we heard the fed there is a slow down of the end of last year. this is the read on what economists think the pace of growth is like in the u.s. >> a follow-up to the raise of interest rates. >> we will see. a lot of global market turmoil. an arrest in the dangerous escape of three inmates in california. did the female help them? we will see next.
this is still no sign of three inmates a week after they broke out of a jail in california. now a woman who taught english as a second language is under arrest helping them with their daring escape. we have more from cnn's paul vercammen. >> reporter: the woman, ravaghi, began working here in july teaching english as a second language. she met the suspected kidnapper and torturer in the group class. >> there is no confirmation she brought the tools in the jail. what we know is she provided google maps. those things to prepare. >> reporter: the sheriff's
lieutenant also said that the attempted murder suspect duong stole a white van in los angeles on sunday. apparently duong was taking that van for a test drive unaccompanied by the single owner when he did not return it. officials believe all three of the fugitives may somehow be living in the van. christine and boris. paul, thank you. the standoff in the oregon wildlife refuge is not over yet. the fbi says negotiators are talking to four people holed up inside hoping to bring the month long occupation to a swift resolution. it comes as video of the confrontation with the leader ammon bundy which led to shooting of the followers. this video is prove the shooting was justified. ethan couch the affluenza teen, is back in the u.s. he is expected to appear in court later this morning. there he is.
couch returned thursday from mexico where he fled after violating probation in a dui crash that killed four people. a hearing on transferring couch's case from juvenile to adult court is scheduled next month. his mother tonya couch is charged with hindering. michigan's governor facing a new controversy in the lead contamination crisis. documents show the governor's office started trucking coolers of pure water to state workers to flint in january. he did not publicly acknowledge the drinking water problem until october. $600 million in federal aid is released to help flint for that water treatment. and meantime, an ohio lawmaker is demanding answers in the town of sebring. officials knew back if august about elevated lead levels.
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are needed to work with iraqi and kurdish and syrian fighters on the ground in those countries. up to 80,000 migrants may be expelled in the coming years from sweden. not for those found to be fleeing war, but those who have rejected conditions. the many reason for the expulsions is the staggers cost. housing and caring for migrants is a growing burden. a global rally for stocks after the bank of japan shocks the world with negative interest rates. huge gains. stocks in europe jumping. this is encouraging banks to lend money out. shares of amazon tanking in pre-market trading disappointed wall street. the numbers were staggering. sales jumped 22% in the last
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driving down interest rates which is good if you are driving a house. the next hour of "early start" continues right now. >> republicans running for president facing off on the debate stage, but the frontrunner not even therement donald trump at his competing event miles away, but who made the best case to undecided voters in iowa? good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm boris sanchez. 5:00 a.m. on the east coast. republicans running for president going after each other with gusto on the debate stage in des moines. conspicuous by his absence, donald trump was holding his event, a benefit for veterans a few miles away. without trump, the sparks were flying. seven candidates spearing,
democrats and each other and at times the moderators. >> it's not my question you get a chance to respond to. it's his answer. you don't get 30 seconds to respond to me. i'd like to go on. sir, i know you like to argue about the rules, but we're going to conduct the debate. >> what is insulting is he is the king of saying oh, you're for amnesty. everybody is more amnesty except ted cruz. that is falseness. >> this is the lie that ted's campaign is built on and rand touched upon it. he is the most conservative guy and everyone else is a r.i.n.o. in the committee, you said i want to bring people out of the shadows. now you want to trump trump on immigration. we are not going to beat hillary clinton with anyone who will say or do anything to win an election. >> he was the sponsor of the gang of eight bill that required
fle thresholds. >> you used to support a path to citizenship. >> so did you, marco. >> she will never get within ten miles of the white house. the days of clintons in public housing are over. >> i think bernie sanders is a good candidate for president of sweden. >> sara murray has more. >> reporter: good morning, boris and christine. donald trump's decision to skip the debate left the moderators more room for the rivals. questioning marco rubio. >> you made it clear you opposed citizenship for illegal immigra immigrants. within two years of getting elected, you were co-sponsoring legislations to create a path to