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tv   Erin Burnett Out Front  CNN  February 2, 2016 4:00pm-5:01pm PST

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i probably would have spent now $14 million, $15 million. i'm self-funding. and i must tell you, i don't know that enough people appreciate it, i'm self-funding anyway whether they appreciate it or not. so i won't be influenced by the lobbyists and et cetera. i was talking to scott about this before, i don't think it's really appreciated by the voters. i'm the only one in -- on both sides that's self-funding. i'm putting up my own money. i don't know that the voters appreciate it. when they go in to vote, i don't think they'll say, he's self-funding and he won't be influenced by lobbyists and special interests, et cetera. i tell them. and sometimes they like it, but i don't think it's something they vote for. which is a shame. because it's actually a very big thing. you understand that. it's a very big element. if you can have somebody that can actually self-fund, and not be influenced by bad decisions, by people that are looking for themselves, or looking for the
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company or country they represent. that's a real positive. i just -- but i just don't know whether or not the voters appreciate it. >> you talk about self-funding, but you've received -- >> this is the first time that you've run. what did you learn in iowa that you're going to try and apply down the line? >> i learned that they're great people. i thought the people in iowa were fantastic. i think they're just great people. and, you know, obviously i was second. i had the largest vote-getting in the history of a republican primary except for one. and i brought many of those extra people in. and they also had, as you know, the largest turnout in the history of republican primaries in terms of iowa, by far. not even close. i think it was like 50,000 or 60,000 more than they've ever had before. so i just -- i learned that they are terrific people in iowa. >> do you worry -- >> [ inaudible ]? >> yeah, i look forward to that,
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yes. >> am i going after who? who said that? oh. i don't think so. i have a very good relationship with marco. i like him. i don't see that necessarily. are you talking about in iowa? that could have been with the debate. i think it could have been the debate. i think some people were disappointed i didn't go in the debate. if i had to do it again, i would have done the exact same thing. the reason is, you know why? because i raised $6 million for the vets in one hour. so if i took a second place instead of a first place and could give the vets $6 million, i'll do that all day long. >> mr. trump, do you worry that you banked too much -- >> what's that? >> do you worry that you banked too much -- >> excuse me? behind. >> on the ground game --
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>> on the what? oh, on ads? we'll be spending a lot of money. we'll be spending money on ads and we'll be spending money on the ground game. >> do you worry you banked too much on your own celebrity -- >> i can't help it. this is me. >> too much focus on the celebrity and not enough focus on the ground game there? >> i think most people say i did a great job in iowa. i came in second. i spent far less than anybody else. and had i known i was going to be liked as much as i am in iowa, and people did like me, you will understand that, i would have maybe spent a little bit more and would have been there a little bit more and maybe won it. i'm very happy with it. i have seven delegates right at the top. you look at other people, in all fairness, senators, governors there. you know, they're way down. when i have 25%, or 26%, and they have 1%, hey, but you
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people don't mention them. one thing is, you people don't mention them. you don't mention all of the other names. now, you mentioned the person, marco, good guy. but he came in third. and they make it sound like he had a victory but i didn't. but i came in second. excuse me, i was -- i started off on 17th. i was 17th. when i first started, i had nothing. and i inched my way up, went pretty rapidly actually. and now i'm leading everything. and i did okay in iowa, pretty good in iowa. yes? >> [ inaudible ]? >> i think we're going to have great success here. i think it's a very much different kind of process. this isn't a caucuses process, this is much different. this is a normal voting process. iowa is a much different kind of a thing. yes?
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>> first you said he was your friend and -- >> he started with the insults, as you know. he insulted ben carson by doing what he did to ben carson, that was a disgrace. he insulted the people of iowa by doing a voter violation form that nobody's even seen before, which was disgraceful. so, no, no, he's a man of himself. i have thousands of people going. but we don't have that in mind. i like mike huckabee. but i don't think he's going to be there. i like him. he left the race. so i feel pretty good about that. he's a good man. yes? we're adding some, and adding them pretty rapidly. yes? mark? go ahead.
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i think everybody -- you never know. they're talking about some people down to 2 and 3, and they could emerge. i don't think they will. but people in your world are saying they possibly could. i don't really see one or two, i see there could be a number. i'd love to finish first. you know, again, it would still not be horrible, because you're competing against a lot of very talented people who have been politicians all their lives. i've been a politician for six months. i would love to finish first. it wouldn't be horrible, but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. i can think of worse things. but i'd like to finish first. i think we will finish first. i would like to finish first. >> you talk about self-funding your campaign. but you received -- >> just so you understand, i'm totally self-funding my campaign other than small donations. people send in small donations for $10, $15, $20, $100.
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>> i believe as far as the donations that you received to your campaign that aren't from the loans you've made -- >> a small amount of money compared to what i put in. it's hard when somebody sends in a check for $17.50, and $9, and $200, very hard to send that money back. >> what does it say to the people who send their hard-earned money and say -- >> i always make a reference to that. i do it every time. yes? >> what will senator brown do to your campaign in the state? >> he's somebody that i respect, and i've always liked. he's very, very respected throughout the country, but he's very respected here. and everybody wanted his endorsement. and i'm very honored that he's giving it to me. and he's going to give it to me on the stage. >> for abortion rights, for a ban on assault weapons, you're very much not for those things and you've been very vocal about that. >> that happens with endorsements.
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that's pretty common with endorsements. >> a lot of your supporters say -- [ inaudible ]. >> yes? >> [ inaudible ]? >> a poll came out, you know, a few days before that said i was about five points up. so maybe there was a tinge. it may have been the debate that set records if i did it, so i would have liked that. the fact is, it could have been the debate, maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but i would have done it exactly the same way. because i raised -- scott, we raised, in one hour, i raised $6 million for the vets. i would never, ever give that up to go between first and second in iowa. wouldn't be worth it. so thank you. >> on the state of the democratic race, and secretary clinton's e-mails -- >> i think her e-mail situation is very serious. i have a feeling she's being protected by the democrats. because it just looks to me to be more serious than anybody
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i've seen, including general petraeus. if you watch and study and read about various lawyers that really -- you know, that's what they do, they really feel that she's in grave danger. and what she's done is against the law. not just against rules, it's against the law. i just don't know what's going to happen. because i don't know whether or not the democrats, bob, are going to protect her. >> mr. trump -- >> is that okay? >> in the democratic race -- >> i never saw a race where they're flipping coins. they're flipping coins. what kind of a race is that? it's ridiculous. i thought it was terrible. you call it a tie. but to flip coins and say, you're going to get this district, we're going to flip a coin. >> is ted cruz running a dirty campaign? >> i think when he did the voter violation form i thought it was terrible. when they said that ben carson is out of the race, and come
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vote for him, i thought that was terrible. okay? thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you. it's a long ways away. we'll see. >> what's the closing argument going to be like? >> you watch. >> that is donald trump there. i'm erin burnett. a major endorsement from the former massachusetts senator scott brown, just a week away from the new hampshire primary. it's also the first time trump has spoken publicly since conceding to ted cruz last night in iowa. co-chair for the ted cruz campaign in new hampshire. and bob smith and jeffrey served as political director for ronald reagan. okay. good to have all of you with us. obviously we have the significant endorsement, senator. this is significant to you. you now have him admitting
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there, it could have been the debate. the debate could have been why he lost iowa. but he would do it all over again because he raised $6 million for vets. he admitted the debate could have been why. he said looking back now, he could have spent a little bit more money and spent a little bit more time in iowa. you have donald trump there, jack, making -- going back and being a little bit -- maybe introspective is too strong of a word, but admitting he made some mistakes. >> yeah. >> i'm sorry, was that to me? >> jeff, i'm sorry. jeff? >> okay. yeah, i think he's looking at it. you know, as anybody does. you go through something like this and you want to see if you did something wrong, what you could change, et cetera. was he not in iowa often enough in the beginning. some of these people have been in iowa, have been practically pitching camp in iowa for over a year. perhaps that was the fault.
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but look, he came in second, and a very close second at that. only separated from ted cruz by a couple points. this was a guy when he announced that, first of all, people never thought he would run in the first place, and then they thought he wouldn't fire his papers. he's a businessman, never run for office in his life, and comes in second in iowa, an unlikely place for him to be, i think he did very well. now it's on to new hampshire. >> of course, the polls there show him with a very, very strong lead. he's looking at those now a little differently, saying that last-minute poll gave him a big lead in iowa, may have ended up hurting him. here's what else he had to say about iowa. >> i think that we did very well. i didn't expect to do so well. i guess what did happen is one poll came out that we were four or five points ahead. that maybe built up a false expectation for some people. >> this is a man who always read through his polls at the top of every speech. he's right, those polls at the
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end that gave him the lead, a pretty solid lead outside the margin of error. perhaps it had some people say, don't worry, we don't need to vote. but the poll in iowa showed him winning. in new hampshire, polls show him with a very, very big lead. do you buy it? >> i think the biggest question right now is whether the air goes out of his balloon, whether you start to see the crowds drop off and he can actually pull off new hampshire or not. if he does pull off new hampshire, and i think his more reflective mood will help him in new hampshire. he needs to show a different side of himself. cut back on the bombast, and the narcissism, and show them that he's a bigger personality than they think, that he can take a punch and come back. if he wins new hampshire, i think iowa becomes a lot less important. because he's back on the road again. there's a great deal now hinging on what happens in new hampshire. i think he needs to win new
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hampshire in order to get the aura of a winner back. >> that aura so important to him. he said losing to me comes in number two. the aura of being a winner. senator smith, cruz pulled off -- a few weeks ago he was a presumptive front-runner in iowa. all these polls came out, it looked like he was behind. he pulled out this win. it's a very big win for ted cruz. when you look at new hampshire, a state where he hasn't run as strongly in the polling. do you think he has the momentum to pull out a win? >> absolutely. if you look at iowa, 51,000 votes-plus, more than any other candidate in the history of the iowa caucuses, that's a tremendous win. it's how he got that win, erin, that's the story, which pertains to new hampshire. he had a tremendous ground game. grass roots people. all kinds of data. so that we're able to identify our voters and get them out to vote. and that's what it's about here in new hampshire.
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there are a lot of candidates in this race, as mr. trump said. good candidates. good people. but we're running here as a conservative. this man is a consistent, conservative, when he gets there, he does exactly what he said he would do. that's what we want here in new hampshire. i might add, anyone who's familiar with the politics here in new hampshire know full well that conservatives win here. mel thompson, the former governor, bob smith, two senate terms and three house terms, gordon humphrey. there are plenty of examples of very conservative people who win here when you stand on principle. you can win. >> scott brown, you know, at one point, was a major hero of the tea party. you heard a question that donald trump cite the assault weapons ban. nonetheless, a hero of that. rode that wave, nationally known name endorsing donald trump tonight. here's what he said. >> i'm here to endorse donald
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trump. and you're going to obviously ask why. for me, it's been a very long process, as you know, we had our backyard barbecues, ten of the candidates over to the house, grab a beer and hot dog and meet, listen, learn where they stand, what they're going to offer this country. and in new hampshire in particular. one common theme came about throughout the whole process. i'm saying to myself, what is the biggest problem right now in washington? well, it's clearly the dysfunction in washington, the fact that they don't talk, they don't work together. very rarely does anything get done. the one person who has the independence and can be the change agent to actually get washington working again, it was very clear to me that that was donald trump. >> jeff, an endorsement like that actually moving the needle for him at all in new hampshire at this point? >> no, i don't believe so. i listened to senator smith,
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whom i met back in the reagan days and have enormous respect for. i'm sure he's going to disagree, but i just think that when you are involved, i mean, he was the -- scott brown was the nominee for the united states senate the last time around, surely he's got some folks in new hampshire that like him. so, yes, i would think. but the more important thing is, like president reagan, who brought in conservatives and moderates together in the party, donald trump, when you've got sarah palin on the one hand and scott brown on the other and both for donald trump, that says something about his ability to bring people together. >> thanks very much to all three of you. we're going to take a brief break. our breaking news coverage continues. marco rubio, donald trump, ted cruz broke the voting record. all three of them. more votes than had ever been cast before in any other individuals in iowa. is it now a three-horse race. hillary clinton narrowly edging out bernie sanders in iowa.
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when it comes to the cloud, trust and security are paramount. we're building what we learn back into the cloud to make people and organizations safer. another big winner in iowa, marco rubio. the presidential candidate now trying to do well in new hampshire. he had a strong, unexpectedly strong third-place finish. headlines across the country,
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still glowing. you would think rubio was the winner. moments ago donald trump said he saw things a little differently. >> you mentioned the person, marco, good guy. but he came in third. they make it sound like he had a victory but i didn't. but i came in second. >> can rubio stop donald trump and ted cruz? dana bash is out front. >> reporter: the third-place winner in iowa declaring victory. >> we spent our energy in iowa -- >> reporter: marco rubio's finish causes him to look forward to new hampshire. >> now we're ready to do it here in new hampshire. >> reporter: his goal to edge out chris christie, john kasich and jeb bush here. to consolidate fractured support and dollars from mainstream republicans around him. other candidates pouring everything into new hampshire are not pleased. >> when senator rubio gets here, when the boy in the bubble gets here, i hope you guys ask him some questions.
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because it's time for him to start answering questions. he wants to say this race is over? >> reporter: rubio's strong iowa showing appears to have helped cruz with his big victory, because rubio's siphoned votes from donald trump who came in second. we asked him moments after he declared victory. >> have you already sent marco rubio a bouquet of flowers? that was a help to you, right? >> listen, i recognize that folks may want to talk about the third-place finisher, that's fine. you can talk about that. i'm focused on our victory tonight. and the fact that courageous conservatives across iowa, all across the country, generated the most votes ever given to any republican victor in a republican primary. >> reporter: cruz is focused on rubio, slamming him today for working with democrats on immigration. >> it was marco in the foxhole with harry reid and chuck schumer shooting at us. >> reporter: beyond new hampshire, rubio sources say
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they hope to cement his status in south carolina. where he just got a big boost from the state's popular republican senator, tim scott. >> i'm putting my confidence and my trust in marco rubio, because i believe that he takes us into the future. >> reporter: no matter what, rubio will still have to contend with donald trump, ahead in most new hampshire polls by double digits. but that's before the man was so successful at selling himself as a winner failed to take that title in iowa. erin, we heard donald trump sort of mocking the idea that marco rubio should consider himself as any kind of victor in iowa, because he finished third, but those are the rules of politics. we saw it here tonight. just beginning to break down the stage behind me, but not that long ago, this was a packed room. over 700 people, they had to close the doors because the fire marshal said no one else could come in. you definitely had the feeling of momentum here. a lot of voters who we talked to
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said they watched the results last night. they came here to get their own look at him. they were considering other candidates like john kasich, but thought, maybe marco rubio could be our guy. if he can keep those crowds coming and close the deal, that is exactly what the whole idea of momentum is all about. erin? >> dana, thank you. "outfront" now, drew kline, endorsed marco rubio, and host of the ben ferguson show, ben ferguson. ben, look, ted cruz, i know you've got to be thrilled here. a lot of your predictions turned out right. ted cruz coming out on top. but donald trump, cruz and rubio got more than any in history in iowa. they all broke the record. so do you think new hampshire is really becoming a much more important state for ted cruz? something he has to win? >> no, i don't. i think the fact that people are
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putting pressure on him is unrealistic. you have a night where he won in a place where he said he was going to win. the voters trusted him. you now have him moving forward. 6:00 yesterday, we were talking about trump running the table. that did not happen. he almost came in third place. yes, you have rubio who did well. i was expecting him to do well. but let's not overstate, he was in third place. ted cruz is in first place. he won, and he won by multiple digit lead here. that is a big night for him. you've got rubio, one big issue, and that is this, he's got to go toe-to-toe with donald trump and he is the official establishment candidate. the question is, are voters going to like him now with him being the new establishment guy. he's going to have to overcome that. >> you heard, drew, you heard dana saying 700 people are in that room, coming to check out marco rubio. that she feels the momentum. how well do you think he could
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do in new hampshire? again, the polls, the last-minute polls in iowa did not show the marco rubio surge that turned out to be the case. part of the reason he's the hero today is because he's significantly outperformed. can he do it in new hampshire? drew, can you hear me? >> i'm so sorry, yes, i can hear you. i thought you were still talking to ben. i apologize. yeah, marco rubio can certainly do it in new hampshire. and you would think that -- the thing about going from iowa to new hampshire, you've got the whole trajectory issue. donald trump is on a downward trajectory. marco rubio is on an upward tra jej tory. i'm here with you guys because the campaign wanted me to be here and called and said, you want to be here. i was going to be at exeter. i wanted to be at the rally to see the 700 people. and as dana said, that momentum
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seems to be there for rubio. i've been picking up on that for a few weeks. i would take issue with what ben said about marco being the establishment candidate. in new hampshire, i don't think that's true. >> you know, i'm going to interrupt you briefly because ted cruz is talking about last night. let's dip in here on ted for a moment. >> the next president of the united states is not going to be chosen by the lobbyists and the washington establishment and the big money. instead, the next president of the united states is going to be chosen by the most powerful force in all of politics, we, the people, the grass roots.
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and south carolina is going to play such a pivotal role in the next three weeks. south carolina's role historically has been choosing presidents. and south carolina this year is going to ensure that the next republican nominee, and the next president of the united states, is a true and proven conservative. let me tell you, i'm so proud with the team of leaders we have here in south carolina. i'm so proud with gary and wendy and mike and kevin. kevin, thank you for your support tonight. and i'm so proud with charlie's great leadership in our state and great friendship.
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and i'm so honored to have the support of congressman jeff duncan. >> that's ted cruz talking in south carolina. now, ben, i want to ask you about, why is he in south carolina? if he's making a real play in new hampshire, doing rallies over the next few days, but he's in south carolina right now. >> he's looking at the long game here. he always knew that south carolina was a place i think he thought he could do very well. in new hampshire, it's a place where i think he is looking at this realistic. any candidate goes there wants to win it. i also thinks he realizes if he comes in the top three, he's in a very good situation going into south carolina. he also got the monkey off his back by actually winning iowa. then you go in to the fcc, and the fcc is where he has a ground game. he also -- in south carolina, he has a ground game there. people underestimated one thing consistently about ted cruz. ted cruz has people on the ground who are working for him in these states.
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they're not just flying in and having a big rally like donald trump has done. he actually has the people on the ground in south carolina and moving forward. and he's using them to his advantage in a real way. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. next, hillary clinton declared the winner of the iowa caucuses in the closest democratic race in the state's history. what's her ground game now? and it's being called the theory vote. how angry voters, angry voters, tipped the scale for cruz. in new york state, w lieve tomorrow starts today. all across the state the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and university partnerships, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in utica, where a new kind of workforce is being trained. and in albany, the nanotechnology capital of the world. let us help grow your company's tomorrow, today at business.ny.gov
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but bernie sanders is pointing to a victory of a different kind. an improbable rise of a wind at his back. >> we took on the most powerful political organization in this country. last night we kacame back from 50-point deficit in the polls. >> reporter: it was as close as close could get. .3%, 49.9% to 49.6%. >> it's a lot better to win. >> reporter: you win a presidential nomination by scooping up the most delegates. not states. on that score in iowa, clinton won 23, sanders 21. sanders didn't formally concede. his campaign manager, jeff weaver, said he wants to know the truth on the ground. sanders pledged to fight until the convention. he's counting on a big fund-raising hall that could rival the $20,000 he raised
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online in january alone. now it's a fight for next week's in you hampshire primary. in an interview today with wolf, clinton dismissed any talk of voting irregularities. >> from everything we have learned and know, i won, and i'm very proud of that. >> reporter: one group didn't win, voters under 30. they chose sanders by a crushing 70 points. >> i'll have work to do to reach out to young voters. >> reporter: those first-time voters are a key part of sanders' growing movement. >> we began the political revolution, not just in iowa, not just in new hampshire, but all over this country. >> reporter: now, all that talk of a political revolution is unsettling for some democrats. of course, bernie sanders is a democratic socialist, a longtime independent from neighboring vermont. one of the reasons he's doing so well here in new hampshire.
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but hillary clinton is reminding people this is a democratic primary. and democrats are worried about the strength of senator sanders. that's one of the reasons that the chairman of the clinton campaign met with members of congress today, democratic members of congress to try to ease any concerns about the direction and length of this campaign. >> jeff, thank you very much, from new hampshire tonight. founder of correct the record, and jonathan, a bern i sanders supporter. let me start with you. you heard hillary clinton. to the best of her knowledge, no voting irregularities. she won, that's it, she's celebrating. she said it multiple times. did she win it? >> we just want to make sure all the votes are counted, that everything is done correctly. i think democrats in particular in 2000, when votes were not counted correctly, they remember that. and there was no allegation on the part of jeff weaver anything was done wrong.
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i think david and i were talking about, one of the thing that happens in iowa is a lot of these people are volunteers. the people who are pre -- >> right. you're not conceding until it's counted? >> that's the campaign's position. i think what bernie talked to chris about this morning, he said, if it's one delegate here and one delegate here, it's a close race. essentially a tie. we're moving on to new hampshire. it will be a strong campaign now. >> different margins there. would you agree, essentially a tie? people look at 49.9% and 49.6%, that's a tie. >> senator clinton won this last night. when the dust settles and we look back on it, say a month from now, she not only won iowa last night, she won the democratic nomination last night. here's why. look at the entrance polls. what did the voters decide in iowa? they decided that they trusted hillary with their future, with their kids' future on health care, on the economy, terrorism, and who is going to stop
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president cruz or president trump or president rubio from taking office. >> the amazing thing from -- >> she's speaking live right now as we're talking. >> the voters were actually saying that they trusted bernie sanders more on honesty, and who cares more about them. by crushing margins. i think that will play out here in new hampshire, and all over the country. i think we need to remember, and i know why david wants to pretend the nomination has been settled, if you look back at may and june when bernie was at 2%, 3%, trailing, and people asked, would he raise enough money, he raised $74 million, and $20 million just in january. i think everybody in the country says this was a tie. now we're moving to new hampshire. once it was considered i think a clinton state. nevada has shifted dramatically. all that's going to happen when you come into super tuesday is bernie is going to have enough money to compete. one thing i do agree with i think bernie said that, or jeff
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said that, in his piece, this is going all the way to the convention. >> which is obviously you don't like to hear that. when people talk about tie, win, whatever happened last night, sanders' campaign is fund-raising today. this coin flipping last night, bernie sanders' fund-raiser said how close was the iowa caucus? they had to flip a coin, that's how close it was. so now you have donald trump and marco rubio weighing in on it. whatever your political affiliation out there watching might be, you probably agree with what they had to say about the coin flipping. here they are. >> the democratic race was a tight race. >> i never saw a race where they're flipping coins. i mean, they're flipping coins. what kind of a race is that? it's ridiculous. >> you vote for me, because if i'm our nominee, we'll beat hillary clinton. and it won't be by a flip of a coin, i'll promise you that. >> i'm sure you disagree with him. they flipped a coin because they
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tied. this does seem a bit ridiculous. >> i understand it was a very close race. just to disagree with one thing john had said. a movement like this, and hats off to senator sanders, he had a great turnout last night. a movement like this needs wins to keep the momentum going. i don't see after new hampshire, where senator sanders is winning. he's the electorate in nevada, south carolina, not hospitable to him. running on a platform to dismantle president obama's legacy. voters trust hillary. >> but health care, he would continue to give universal health. that is not fair. >> clinton's plans are tougher and better. >> to your point, that's not fair. bernie sanders -- >> didn't we -- >> bernie sanders said repeatedly he commends the president for passing affordable
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care act. when they sent poor chelsea clinton out to argue this, her statement -- >> he has not been -- >> her statement was labeled mostly false. that's what the clinton campaign has been doing, falsifying this argument against -- >> that's not right. >> okay, okay, let's say we come back now. >> why did senator sanders endorse a book that's coming out this week that attacks frontally president obama on a range of issues and trashes his legacy? why endorse it? why endorse it? >> let's stick with health care. because health care is what is important to the american people. the clinton campaign has -- >> he is taking a lot of heat for it. >> i don't know about the endorsement. the health care thing is really crucial. essentially the clinton campaign has been lying. >> no, they have not. >> repeatedly. >> he wants to start over. >> that's not true, david.
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you don't know anything about health care, you say. thousands of dollars would be saved by the average american if we had -- now, one would say why does every single country -- why does every single country -- >> that he would raise the taxes. >> after he said he would raise the taxes. >> for one reason, the most economically smart plan. >> we're not every other country. >> legislators are not bought off like the clinton campaign. hillary clinton has accepted more money than anybody from the insurance companies. there's a reason she's not for single-payer -- >> that is false. >> no, it's true. >> they don't buy a thing. all they got was a tougher, more realistic, pragmatic workable plan for secretary clinton. >> first of all -- >> in other words -- >> 29 million people still not covered -- >> we don't -- >> we need everybody to be covered at a lower cost. >> and she's going to get us there. >> all right.
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thank you. >> we don't really need the left echoing -- >> thank you both. thank you both. tomorrow night is our big town hall. the candidates will have a chance to discuss this tomorrow night. at 9:00 eastern right here. no one can hear you. thank you both. tomorrow night at 9:00, i'll be seeing both of you. i do always enjoy it. it was wonder if will having you together here on set. a big night for ted cruz and bernie sanders. what the two very different candidates have in common. last night, you can't get up and run off on each other, hold on, ted cruz, was that the same guy who said this. >> when you get the numbers up for iowa, please? this is ridiculous. what is my competition?
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striking generational gap, 84% of young voters went for sanders. that's not the only divide threatening both campaigns tonight. senior political analyst david gergen and david chalion. that is a stunning thing when you look at that. we knew the young voters would go for we knew young voters were going to go for sanders, but 84%. >> on a night when there was encouraging news for hillary clinton, one thing she has to keep on eye on, what's going on among the young. that's an essential part of the coalition that president obama put together, the young, minorities and women, that's what swept him into office. if she starts losing the young, special especially the young wo that's what's so interesting. running as the first woman president. that seems a lot to people over 45 on the polls but doesn't matter to people especially under 30. this is a new generation that has different values and we're going to be discussing this. do they seem to care more about their rights, rightfully theirs,
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their spite tentitlements rathe if they have a woman in the white house? >> see the age divide and deep divide in the democratic party on the qualities they see in bernie sanders and hillary clinton. that surprised you. >> it really did. when i looked at the numbers, wow, of course it's so close. the democratic caucusgoers split in what they were looking for from their candidate. on hillary clinton's side, my god, if you were a democrat looking for somebody who had the right experience or somebody you think can win in november, she demolished bernie sanders on those traits. look at that there. 77%, 88%. if you're looking for somebody who cares about somebody like me, honest and trustworthy, those were bernie sanders people. the party was completely divided about what it was looking for from the candidate last night. that's why it was so close. >> you look at it in terms of the republican side of things, david chal yan, interest polls 91% of people dissatisfied or angry with the government. donald trump talked a lot about that. it was actually not his supporters that were the angriest. that was fascinating. >> well, right.
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i mean, ted cruz actually edged him out with these angry voters 32% to 30%. which is not too far apart from each other obviously, erin, but what it did show is that trump and cruz were splitting thesevo. it wasn't just a trump base of support. cruz tapped into that anger in a very provocative way and helped fuel him in victory. >> 91%, david gergen, angry overall. what does that mean if you are not trump or cruz, if you are one of these candidates saying i'm for hope, i'm for a positive vote? >> it means republican voters this year are the angriest of the angry. there are many people in the country, anger being directed over to bernie sanders. that's helping him, fueling his campaign. what was striking last night, t the end of the night we have two fractured parties. the people who won last night, ted cruz extreme wing.
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the moral owinner last night on the democratic side, bernie sanders. >> fascinating way of putting it and captures it all. she, of course, won, but there was a huge moral victory for bernie sanders as well. next, the candidate who hates losing saying he's honored to finishing second. what happened to the donald trump we all thought we knew? b. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your retirement savings. so wherever your retirement journey takes you, we can help you reach your goals. call us or your advisor t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
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donald trump speaking right now. live at the podium moments ago, of course, he admitted skipping the last debate in iowa may have cost him the win. >> well, that ould hacould have with the debate, it could have been the debate. some people were disappointed i didn't go to the debate. if i had to do again, i would have done the exact same thing. >> he said he would have done the exact same thing because he raised $6 million for veterans. his speech tonight a stark contrast from a billionaire we've come to know as much brasher. kyung lah is "outfront." >> we finished second, i want to tell you something, i'm just honored. i'm really honored. >> reporter: a very humble sounding donald trump. >> iowa, we love you, we thank you. you're special. >> reporter: this is the same candidate who just weeks ago said this. >> how stupid are the people of iowa? i don't like being second. second is terrible.
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to me. >> reporter: second place is nice, tweets today's post-iowa donald. after 15 hours of twitter silence, a kinder, gentler donald emerged. >> i think i've stopped being surprised about anything related to donald trump this cycle. >> reporter: this is not the donald trump christian ferry knows. ferry was lindsey graham's presidential campaign manager. after graham insulted the billionaire, trump read the senator's cell phone number at a rally. >> 202 -- >> reporter: graham responded with a humorous video. ♪ what else could a candidate do in the summer of trump? trump railed on everyone, from mexican immigrants -- >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. >> reporter: -- to muslims after the san bernardino terror attacks -- >> a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> reporter: trump criticized
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women from carly fiorina to fox anchor megyn kelly. >> you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her wherever. >> reporter: even former vietnam war p.o.w., john mccain, was fair game. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured. >> reporter: the trump of last night may indicate an evolving candidate. >> i want to congratulate and i want to congratulate all the incredible candidates. >> reporter: but that may already be fading a bit. less than 24 hours he was right back at attacking cruz, tweeting "anybody who watched all of ted cruz's far too long rambling overly flamboyant speech last night say that is his howard dean moment." >> i think at the core he is still donald trump, he's still completely unpredictable and we have no idea what might show up tomorrow and maybe that is what his voters are looking for. it seems to be working very well for him.
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>> now, ferry believes that trump 2.0 may indicate a couple of things, that he is maturing as a candidate, but erin, that he may also be in it for the long haul. erin? >> all right. kyung, thank ryou very much. thank withdrew fyou for joining. sea you "a.c. 360" starts now. candidates crisscrossing the granite state today, the iowa caucus winner, the loser -- the winner who lost by failing to do the same. the ones who by in large -- talking their way toward next tuesday's first in the nation primary. two of those candidates, democrats bernie sanders and hillary clinton who virtually tied in iowa, they are getting ready for tomorrow night's cnn town hall in derry, new hampshire, two candidates, one forum, your questions, 9:00 p.m. eastern. we have plenty tonight to deal with first, though, with