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>> you know me, unlike some of these other campaigns, i'm not the boy in the bubble, okay? we know who the boy in the bubble is up here who never answers your questions, who's constantly scripted and controlled because he can't answer your questions. so when senator rubio gets here, when the boy in the bubble gets here, i hope you guys ask him some questions. because it's time for him to start answering questions. he wants to say this race is over, and it's all him, seems to me that he should have to sit across from you and answer your questions the way i do. >> senator rubio did sit down and answer questions with "new day's" alisyn camerota. watch. >> thanks so much for sitting town with us. have you had any sleep? >> a little bit. just enough. maybe three, four hours. >> at what point last night did you realize that iowa was going to go very differently than what the polls predicted? >> we felt that way moving in. the last ten days we were there working. we felt good about people deciding late, deciding our way. we were always very confident about our plan and obviously had a historic turnout.
i mean, the large number of people that voted. when you went to the caucus senters, they were telling us, putting out double the number of chairs they'd ever put out before. that was impressive. i think it tells you how engaged and interested people are in this election and i'm glad they are. this is the most important election in a generation. >> but just peel back the curtain, were you in a ballroom, what was happening as you were watching the returns come in? >> it didn't work that way. i went to four separate caucus sites and spoke. by the time i got to the hotel, the results had already pretty much started coming in and we could see, we knew we were going to do well in certain parts of the state. we got more votes than the winners of the last three iowa caucuses did. it was a huge and massive turnout. i thank the people of iowa. our ground team there was fantastic and phenomenal and gave us great momentum coming here to new hampshire. >> here you are in new hampshire. you wake up in a different state. there are different voters. when you look around here, there are different -- >> i went to sleep in a different state. we arrived at 1:30 in the morning. >> oh my gosh. >> we got in here -- absolutely, we spent a lot of time here already as well. we have a great team here, too.
we feel really great about it. what people are going to start realizing is i give us the best chance. my candidacy gives us the best chance to nominate a real conservative who can unite the party, grow the party, take our message to people that haven't voted for us in the past and ultimately defeat hillary clinton our bernie sanders. the democrats know this. they admit i am the one they want to run against. that's why i think ultimately i'll be the nominee. >> what do you do differently? >> every electorate has a different background. every state is diverse. ultimately what people are worried about in our party in particular, we have to nominate someone that can win. take our principles, grow this party and win. that's what i give us a chance to do. someone who as president will reverse the damage barack obama has done, put in place policies that allow the private sector to succeed, and keep america safe. and that's what i'll do when i'm president. >> as you know, new hampshire doesn't have the evangelical vote that iowa does.
there are different values here. do you change anything about what you -- >> i've always said the campaign we launched in april of last year and the message we launched will be the message i have in november of this year. i'm not running two separate campaigns or eight separate campaigns. i believe that america's greatest days are within our reach but not if we stay on the road we're on right now. i have clear policies, the most detailed policy of anybody running for president on either side. and that's going to be my message no matter where i am no matter what stage in this process we're in. >> your rivals have been talking about you. jeb bush just called you a back bencher. trump has called you the kid, as you know. chris christie just called you the boy in the bubble. you and cruz have exchanged some words. what's your response? >> i think when people attack you usually they don't attack someone who isn't doing well. you usually only get attacked in politics if you present a threat to someone. jeb's comment is interesting. he endorsed me. he wanted me to be the vice president. he openly told people i should be the vice president in 2012 when romney was going through that process. the only thing that's changed
between then and now is we happen to both be running for president. i think chris, both jeb and chris have had a tough couple days and obviously sometimes people don't react well to adversity. and so they're saying some things they'll probably later on regret. that's not going to change my campaign. i'm not running to beat up on other republicans. if there are policy differences, we'll discuss those. ultimately i'm running to unify this party and ensure our next president is nothing like the one we have now. >> as you know, immigration has become a big issue in this election. you and all of your rivals want to secure the border. if you become president, what do you do next? >> after securing the border? first, not just secure the border, people have to
have confidence you've done it. in essence, i do not believe having worked on this issue now for a long time including just personally having come from the background i come from that the american people are going to support anything on immigration until first they believe illegal immigration is truly under control. that means finishing the wall and fencing, new border patrol agents and entry/exit tracking
system and e-verify. only after that's in place and that's working can go to the american people and see what they're willing to support. i think they'll be willing to support something very reasonable. i don't think the american people expect us to round up and deport 12 million people. if you're a criminal, you won't be able to stay no matter what. they should be deported now, criminals. if you're not, we outlined an idea. i don't know if the american people will support it but the idea of allowing people that have been here for a long time to pass a background check, pay a fine, start paying taxes, they get a work permit. that's all they'll have for at least a decade. we'll see what the american people are willing to support. i'm not going to ram it down anyone's throat. i can tell you how we're not going to do it, through unconstitutional executive orders the way this president has done it now. >> last, we know you're a big music fan. what are you listening to node? >> today i haven't been listening to anything. >> on the trail. >> people know this now over the last couple years i've gotten interested into electronic dance music, calvin harris.
i just like it because the lyrics are clean so i can listen to it in front of my kids and not worry about it. i used to be a much bigger hop hop fan. the lyrics have gotten harder to listen to when you have 10-year-olds in the car.
>> "straight outta compton," you said it one time -- >> i want to see the movie. >> were they robbed of an oscar nomination? >> i haven't seen the movie so i can't tell you. they're reuniting now. they're going to do -- i guess easy e. because he passed away, i heard eminem is going to fill his role in the reunion. i'm interested to see how that plays out. >> are the oscars too white? >> i don't know. what does that mean? >> that's the rap on it, pardon the pun, there aren't enough people of color nominated in movies. >> hollywood has bigger problems than that. i guess you're talking about the controversial with the number of nominees. i haven't followed that very closely. it's interesting, though.
the bigger problem i have with hollywood is the values they're trying to ram down our throat in this country and how parent it's made it on parents like me and my wife to raise our children with the values that we want to instill in them as opposed to the values hollywood wants to ram down people's throats and i think that's one of the things that i just talked about with the lyrics as an example. that's something i'm really concerned about. i haven't followed the whole oscars thing. >> senator, thanks so much for taking the time. great to talk to you. >> thanks. >> marco rubio talking to "new day's" alisyn camerota. john king, host of "inside politics." nia-malika henderson. gloria borger. paul begala and amanda carpenter. she's a former ted cruz communications director. conservative writer, mona joins
down. it's interesting seeing rubio in that interview. he gives the republican party the best chance of winning the general election according to him gepgs secretary clinton. is he the candidate they are most concerned about do you think or you're most concerned about? >> i change every day. he's clearly talented. he has a ton of talent. he's really gifted, but he's had some problems too. he's had -- he couldn't give a response to the president's state of the union. he has his draw backs. they're all talented. i did not say this in 2012, but this is a bradley talented field. they do fear hillary clinton the most because wall street is attacking hillary and helping bernie in iowa so that we know for sure. i change every day. actually my best advice they
should all get out of the race and let hillary become president. >> it's about exceeding expectations. >> he overperformed his poll numbers in iowa. he is the leading establishment candidate. the label doesn't mean as much, but that's what people are going to try to put had on him. he's a candidate who can reach out to romney voters and compete and try to take their voters away. a lot of voters kwhoo have been with other candidates will look at the iowa results and some of them will say should we give him a chance. he's the best athlete on the field. is he ready to be president and he's growing as the campaign goes on. is this his year or his aaa. i would say he should go back and look at the clinton campaign in 2008. leading with electable. it's a good message for republicans that i can united the party and i can win. but leading with it, the prime areas are about ideology.
talk about what they want to talk about, and tlen get to the electedability. leading with it is risky. >> it helped him last night. >> it helped him to third place. >> it did, but on the issue of electability he was kind of two to one. so. >> you're rubio supporter he hasn't spent at much time on the ground as christie. what's his ground game like? >> his strategy it seems to me is to focus on the issue that is most important to primary voters who are republicans and what is that, security. security and terrorism are the highest priority now, higher than the economy. you notice in that last preiowa debate he hit that very hard. it's a strength for him. he's very conversant with issues about terrorism and foreign affairs. though he looks young, he and cruz are the same age. though he looks young he's quite expert in those areas and i think that's what he has been
stressing and i think it's working for him. >> how do you see it playing out? >> but he just in terms of this race, the only reason that trump -- the only reason we talk about donald trump is because of illegal immigration. marco rubio made a fatal mistake of joining that. with. it's just such a hurdle for him to overcome. in that interview he has to explain his position on immigration. i don't know how you overcome that and try to be a candidate because if people are fearing if terrorists can come across the boarder you have no credibility. >> among the voters in iowa when they were asked what is their most important issue, only 12% listed immigration so it may not be the deciding issue. >> just hold that thought. we're going to have more.
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you heard at length at the top of the broadcast from marco rubio who now leads the so-called establishment alternative to either donald trump or ted cruz, though you could probably argue with that term. you heard a trump alternative chris christie take a shot at rubio. now a bit from trump, himself. he spoke today with new
hampshire nh 1 political director paul steinhaus. >> you talk about the polls, last night you didn't win. how much does that hurt personally and hurt your brand? >> i thought we did great. i didn't expect to be in the top ten for a long period of time. we came in second. everybody said you can't win in iowa, so we didn't take it that seriously. we came in strong second. a very strong second. brought out more voters than has ever been brought out. actually the vote total i got has been unbelievable. i think i had the highest in history other than the one vote. so, no, i think we did really well. i'm very happy with it. >> did you learn lessons from iowa that you're going to now implement in new hampshire? >> i think we learned some lessons. i had a great time in iowa. i think the people are amazing. i think they're amazing right over here. we're going to be here tonight making a speech. we have a sold out arena as you know. it's going to be fantastic.
i love the people of new hampshire. the people of iowa treated me good. hey, look, we started out number 17, now we're number 2 in iowa. i think we're going to be number one over here. >> senator rubio saying skipping the debate was not good, he gained votes because you were not there. >> i raised $6 million for the vets, so if i had to do it again, i would have done the same thing because coming in second in iowa and raising $6 million for the vets was really worth it to me. the vets are very happy with the job i've done. and, you know, if you look at new hampshire, it's a big vet area. and i'll tell you what, everywhere i go, they thank me for that $6 million. >> all right. let's bring in the panel, jeffrey lord, donald trump's admission that he did very well in iowa but could have won if he spent more time or more money there. how much of a setback do you think this is for his campaign? >> i don't think it's that much of a setback.
as we all know, lots of people have won or a number of people have won in iowa and that was it. senator cruz could well just be the new rick santorum or the new mike huckabee. and then others have lost it and gone on to be president. does -- there's always a lot of pr, publicity around this particular caucus. i understand why. but then you win or you lose and you go on and there's no guarantee at all. >> bill press, as a sanders supporters, you know, you look at the large numbers of young people he was able to attract last night in the caucuses in iowa. the knock on him, though, is once he leaves new hampshire, moving forward, south carolina, nevada, and elsewhere, it's going to become a lot more difficult for him. hillary clinton. there's a lot more support among african-americans, even latinos. how do you make the argument that this is going to be a lodge drawn-out fight? >> look how well he did last night and look at where he is in
new hampshire. you know, i think jeff weaver said it earlier, anderson, it's a message that his message has really resonated across the board, this populist revolution to the ideas he's put forward but i want to take the high road in a sense that i think what we -- the lesson from last night is that bernie sanders is for real. he's a serious candidate. people take him seriously. and this is going to be a big contest. hillary clinton called it a contest of ideas between the two of them that could go maybe as far as the convention. it's going to be a serious contest. they both want to go in the same direction. they have different ideas of how to get there. it's going to start tomorrow night with your town hall. it's great for the party, great for bernie and great for hillary and a great contest to the sniping we see on the other side. i think this is what the americans want to see. >> in terms of money senator sanders has shown he can raise
it, $20,000 raised in the last month, average donation $27. >> that's why he's in this for the long haul. i talked to somebody who knows him well. they said even if clinton is mathematically winning that he could still take this to the convention and try to influence the platform, influence what clinton has to say. one of the reasons we keep focusing on demographics is demographics is the key to a democrat's strategy in the general election. if you look at the way obama won, he won 80% of non-white voters, something like 30% of white voters, and that's what sanders has to i think show even in a primary fight. that he can get those voters. he didn't do terribly in iowa. he won 34% of non-white voters. 58% went to clinton. he's really got to sort to show that he can resonate with those voters that are so key to a democratic win in a general election. >> he won young women. >> he did. >> and younger voters. that's important to the coalition, too.
>> nine times out of ten, demographics determine elections almost more than the candidates. every now and then there's a big wave. the question is there such a big change wave? republicans want strange. bernie sanders's strength is a credit to his campaign, "b" democrats want change, too. all of hillary clinton's strengths, there are many, she's not change. >> paul, do you believe it's going to be a long drawn-out battle? there's a lot of people saying, look, if there was any state where bernie sanders was going to win, it would have been iowa and new hampshire. after that, it becomes more difficult. >> well, it could go long, i think bill makes a good point, it wouldn't be entirely bad. the hillary/barack death match is the best thing that happened to barack obama, made him smarter, tougher, better president. >> do you think the long drawn-out fight with bernie sanders will make hillary -- >> it's all ready. >> take the party so far left -- >> that's a big worry. that's what happened with romney. one of two things. what happened to romney, he dragged the party to the right cliff or what happened to obama, made him smarter and tougher. so far they've kept it between the ditches. they have. i'm not that worried.
the likelihood is hillary puts it away sooner than that. i don't mean disrespect to senator sanders. he has to show the capacity to grow. senator obama had an enormous capacity to grow out of iowa because of his experience, coming out of illinois, chicago. he had terrific appeal with communities of color. that's how he beat hillary. senator sanders hasn't proven that yet because he comes out of vermont, has a terrific record but it's not in his political dna the way it is for hillary or president obama. >> you can see in this campaign between sanders and the clinton the effect that barack obama has had on the democratic party and the country. he's moved it significantly to the left. there is nothing in sanders' platform that barack obama has ever told voters they couldn't have, you know, free college tuition, medicare for all. but for the intransigents and evil republicans on the hill. and so he sort of set the table for the debate that the democrats are now having and, you know, on the one hand, you
have a candidate in sanders who's a devout socialist who wants to spend $17 trillion and on the other hand, hillary clinton, somebody who may face indictment and that's the democratic race. >> actually we should ask bill about this. he's written an entire book about it. the truth is senator sanders is far to the left of president obama, he'd probably say that. the president has not called for free college tuition. bill's written a whole book about it. >> bill, you think he's actually been a disappointment for progressives, president obama. >> yeah, look, i know we're talking about 2016, we're not looking back at president obama's presidency. no, i think president obama is -- i'm proud i voted for him. i'd vote for him again. he's done a lot of good things, but read the book, in some ways i believe he has let progressives down. i'll just leave it at that. and i think the point of looking forward is that whether it's bernie or hillary, my point is that progressives have to really be tough as hell and demand that the next president take that progressive agenda that bernie's talking about and by the way, hillary's talking about and run
with it all the way. >> john, though, hillary clinton has a track record in new hampshire as does bill clinton. i mean, hillary clinton won new hampshire the last time around. she was down in the polls to barack obama. >> it's both a blessing and a curse, you have old friends up there, they're battle tested. you have relationships. you need people who handle pressure well. on the other hand, in an environment where people are looking for something new and different and change, no offense to her, but her last name's clinton. her husband was a two-term president. they brought him out at one point to help close the deal and some ways it may have hurt them. as effective as bill clinton is, it reminded them it's a legacy candidate, not a change candidate. again, she has many, many strengths, don't get me wrong. she doesn't have the political instincts of her husband. jeb bush can't break through. republicans don't want to go back to the bushes. they respect the name. in a part, that's hillary clinton's issue. democratic voters want change, too. some progressives love president obama but don't think he did
enough. she's the continuity, the third-term candidate. bernie sanders is something new. that's a huge dynamic for this race. >> here's her other problem, too, i think, which is her response to bernie sanders yes, in a perfect world, we'd all agree with you but i'm pragmatic, i'm the confident one. on the issue of pragmatism, to voters who want change and have passion for the opposing candidate, isn't enough. >> it's boring. >> be who she is. she's authentically pragmatic. the media hammers her, she's a big phony. she believes you can't wave a magic wand and have socialized medicine. >> the question is can she survive this climate being herself? is this the right climate? >> we got to leave that discussion there. just to echo bill press' reminder, i'm going to moderate a town hall tomorrow night in derry, new hampshire, bernie sanders, hillary clinton on the same stage taking questions from
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ted cruz campaign picked up some momentum with his win over donald trump in iowa but the question now is whether cruz can ride that wave into new hampshire where the battle might be tougher. the latest cnn/wmur poll of likely voters in new hampshire shows trump in the lead with 30% to cruz's 12%. cruz's communications director joins me now from manchester, new hampshire. rick, congratulations about last night. senator cruz's strategy in iowa, campaigned in all 99 counties there, had endorsement from iowa state legislators, pastors. he really worked hard for that win last night. from this point on, does that strategy shift, particularly looking ahead to new hampshire and beyond? >> well, not really. you know, we have three of the most conservative leaders here in new hampshire, senator bob smith and dave wheeler who's executive counselor, and former speaker bill o'brien, and we've
got a great team here in new hampshire. we're not going to change our message for new hampshire. the 603 alliance here in new hampshire was formed from pro-gun groups, pro-family group s, pro-life groups, pro-business groups that wanted to come together and not let the establishment nominate another moderate candidate and because there are six candidates really competing for the same vote, there is an opportunity for conservatives to do very well here. so we hope if those conservatives turn out and unite behind ted cruz, we're looking forward to a good night next tuesday. >> how much time is he going to be spending in new hampshire? because he was there earlier but he's already in south carolina. >> well, he'll be back shortly, in fact, he may have already arrived back in new hampshire. will be here for the duration. we'll be here all week. >> okay. the fact that rubio was able to do much better in iowa than
expected, is your campaign worried that he might be able to capitalize on that momentum or do you think the fact that as you said, christie, kasich, bush, are all sort of competing in that same lane, is going to take him down? >> well, two things. you know, yesterday morning "the des moines register" said we were five points down and people said we had no chance of winning iowa, that it was all donald trump and we ended up winning it by 6,000 votes so i think the momentum and the exceeding expectations would have gone to us. secondly, you're exactly right, there are all these moderates fighting each other. in fact, you saw chris christie calling marco rubio today the boy in the bubble which refers to his lack of access to the press. and so they'll be fighting each other. there's really -- maybe there's no reason actually to pick on ted cruz because he's the only conservative with a path to victory that's in his lane. everybody else is in the moderate lane. >> i want to ask you something about donald trump tweeted about your candidate earlier today. he said, i quote -- anybody who watched ted cruz's rambling
overly flamboyant speech last night would say that is his howard dean moment. what is your response to that? >> donald trump has never given a speech. he just has a stream of consciousness that sometimes makes sense and sometimes doesn't. full of contradictory statements. and so i think ted cruz delivers a very powerful and impassioned speech and he knows exactly what he's communicating and he talked about what he would do as president. he talked about policy. he talks about substance. donald trump doesn't touch on any of those things. >> rick tyler, always good to talk to you, rick. thanks very much for being with us. >> thanks, anderson. ahead, donald trump said he was, quote, honored to finish second in iowa. will his loss affect new hampshire? we'll take you there to find out next. i filed my taxes online with h&r block for $9.99.
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donald trump says the media is not covering his, quote, long-shot great finish in iowa fairly. as we mentioned before the break, he also lashed out at ted cruz's speech and last night didn't even seem to see his loss as a loss. take a look. >> i was told by everybody, do not go to iowa, you could never finish even in the top ten.
and i said, but i have friends in iowa, i know a lot of people in iowa, i think they'll really like me, let's give it a shot. they said, don't do it. i said, i have to do it. and we finished second and i want to tell you something, i'm just honored. i'm really honored. >> trump may not be talking like he never expected to win iowa, if you look back at his campaign up to this point, it's been about promising he'll win everything. >> i will win. i'll bring in states that nobody ever thought of. honestly, we're going to win so much. we're going to win on trade. we're going to win with our military. i want to win, okay? you know, we like to win. we know how to close deals. i close. i'm a closer. we will beat isis very quickly, folks. i beat china all the time. we're going to win then we're going to beat hillary or whoever the hell they put in front of us. we're going to win so much. we're going to win so much. we're going to have win after win after win. you people are going to get sick and tired of winning.
you're going to say, please, president trump, we can't take this much victory, please stop, we don't want this many wins. i'm going to say to you, we're going to win, i don't care what you say, we're going to make our country great again. we're going to win, we're going to win and we're going to win. >> he came in second in iowa. the question is can he win in new hampshire? he's leading the polls there right now. gary tuchman is there, spoke with some of his supporters. >> how are you? >> reporter: on an unseasonably warm evening in new hampshire, this crowd doesn't have any warmth toward those who say donald trump is now politically vulnerable after losing in iowa to ted cruz. >> well, because i think he's going to come here and rock new hampshire. >> reporter: trump may have come in second place in the caucuses but we asked many people lined up to see him in new hampshire this question. were you disappointed with the results in iowa? >> absolutely not. >> reporter: how come? >> second place is a great finish. >> can you see me right now? >> of course i can.
>> reporter: those are unusual glasses. >> i'm here to support donald trump. >> reporter: no kidding. >> yes, all decked out. >> reporter: were you disappointed he didn't win in iowa? >> no i, i wasn't. i thought that was going to be tough for him. i put perspective on it it's only one last delegate. >> reporter: there were some trump supporters who said a second-place finish was a letdown but they were in the minority. how many of you were disappointed he didn't win the caucuses last night? >> very. >> he did win. >> he won just by coming in second and doing nothing for it. >> everybody wins because he's in the race. >> reporter: what does that mean? >> they all owe him a thank you note because there's been more interest, excitement, entertainment with him in it than there ever would have been. >> reporter: one reason many trump supporters here don't feel badly about his loss to ted cruz is they don't think much of the iowa caucuses. >> i just don't like it. i think that you can talk people out of things. you might go in really wanting to vote for trump and someone can change your mind at the last minute.
>> i think a caucus is just a caucus. it's not really a vote. i think it was so informal i'm not exactly sure how the process works. >> reporter: many of the people who have come here had hoped this would be a post-iowa caucuses victory party of sorts, but now they're part of an effort to make sure donald trump doesn't go 0 for 2. tell me why you like donald trump. >> he speaks his mind. there's no bull [ bleep ]. he speaks his mind. >> reporter: you just cussed. >> he says -- >> she speaks her mind, too. >> he says exactly what a lot of people are thinking. >> reporter: that clearly wasn't enough for trump in iowa, but his supporters here are determined to give their candidate a win next tuesday in new hampshire. >> and gary joins us now from milford, new hampshire. i understand you asked donald trump before his rally if he was disappointed in coming in second. what did he say? >> reporter: i told donald trump, anderson, that most of the supporters we talked to were not disappointed that he didn't win the iowa caucuses and how do you feel? and he said that perhaps i feel
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lot of traffic today on the campaign trail in new hampshire. hillary clinton, ted cruz, marco rubio, bernie sanders heading straight there after last night's iowa caucuses. some of their rivals have been campaigning there for days. they have seven days to seal the deal with voters. many of them still undecided. the question is simple, did last night's caucuses help any of them reach a decision? we asked randi kaye to watch the group whose votes for still up for grabs. >> reporter: too many choices, too little time. >> i'm flip-flopping every five seconds. >> reporter: that's what we heard over and over from this group of undecided new hampshire voters. when will you decide? >> by election day. >> reporter: that's good. we hoped watching the iowa caucus results would help this group choose a candidate.
a handful here are still considering donald trump but want more specifics. >> he wants to make the country great again, i'd just like to know more of how. >> if he could -- he doesn't really say a lot of plans of how he's going to do things. if he would just come up and say, okay, we're going to fix the economy and this is my plan, i'd jump right in. >> reporter: then you're in trump's corner. >> exactly. >> reporter: most of the other republican voters are torn between marco rubio -- >> i think he has fresher ideas than other folks and trying to bring more energy to it. doesn't seem like as much as retread rhetoric. >> reporter: and ted cruz. what do you need to hear from cruz or rubio? >> i'm not sure. we've been praying about it. i don't know. i only know i feel -- it's too bad we can't split the presidency down the middle and say you can make it monday through wednesday and the rest is, you know, is the other candidate. >> reporter: these democratic voters were also struggling. this woman was sold on hillary
clinton until bernie sanders came along. >> i feel as though he speaks to me for those of us in the middle class. those of us who have children in college. you know, i think he has some good ideas and i'd like to give him a chance. >> reporter: so how will you decide? >> i think i'll go to vote and i'll stand there and that is when i'll make my decision. >> reporter: in that moment. >> yes. >> reporter: this voter likes clinton but likes sanders' fresh someone kwhoo graduated with a good amount of student loends, his position on student loans is very thoughtful as well and he think he has a passion that a lot of people this age are looking for. >> reporter: so why aren't you ready to say i'm behind bernie sanders. >> i'm concerned about his electability outside of new england and in the broader country so that's really what my
biggest hold up is. >> reporter: in the end some of our voters did make up their minds. give me a show of hands, did any of you decide on a candidate? you did. who did you pick? >> rubio. rubio. okay three there on the republican side. let's check the democratic side. show of hands after coming in undecided did anybody decide on a candidate? yell out who you picked. hillary. >> who did they vote for. >> >> reporter: three other undecided voters decided to go tore bernie sanders and then there was this one woman who wanted to vote democratic and at the end of the night she voted for donald trump. this is a campaign that is full of surprises, but one interesting thing is that even on the democratic side with two
candidates here, the voters are still struggling. one woman said her heart is with the bernie sanders but she wants to make sure a democrat gets in the white house so she's leaning towards hillary clinton. >> as we said today donald trump blasted the media for not giving him more credit with second place in iowa. he got endorsement from former senator scott brown. joining me now is the political reporter for the boston globe. how big is that to donald trump when it comes to new hampshire and has he been leading in the polls there? there is of course the issue of momentum for rubio, maybe cruz. >> that's right. ever since 1980 and george bush won iowa he talked about having the big mow, every single winner of the iowa caucuses went into new hampshire with a version of
momentum. it took five weeks for george bush to lose that to ronald reagan and barack obama five days to lose that in 2008. we don't have any candidate coming to new hampshire with any sort of big mow. clearly you see that on the democratic side. i don't think hillary clinton can argue she has that momentum. on the republican side you might have what we call mini mow because obviously ted cruz won. he had a lot of buzz today. marco rubio you would rather be in his position than others, but i don't think the race in new hampshire as we sit here 24 hours after iowa has changed. donald trump is still the front-runner on the republican side and bernie sanders is still the front-runner on the democratic side. ted cruz had consolidated conservatives months ago. you still had this establishment
lane cluster with marco rubio and jeb bush and chris christie. >> is there any sign of trump's team trying to ramp up their ground game in new hampshire. it appears to be that cruz and rubio had pretty solid turnout operations although trump has said he got a huge number of actual votes coming in second. >> that is a great question and as you know the trump organization, the trump campaign really keeps this really tight to the vest. i did dig deep down into the organization last week though talking to a lot of people who are town chairs or involved on making the phone calls. what's fascinating is that they really only ramped up this ground game in new hampshire where he's been leading since july. they've only ramped it up in the last month, but what they've put together in the last couple of weeks has been extremely impressive and very efficient.
the question is whether or not it's too late, but as you heard new hampshire makes up their minds so late that maybe it's just in time. >> how big of a deal is that scott brown endorsed trump? >> not a huge deal. i mean, he ran in one election where he was opposed by a number of conservatives. it's a flashy one day news story, but this is happening right now and we're going to be moving on to other issues. i think if scott brown had endorsed early on it would have had more effect. >> trump's chair said trump can draw a crowd, that they need to work on the number one question people have whether he's serious and for real. did they talk about how they would do that? >> yeah, they do. they say he has spent a lot of time talking to people that he is serious and for real. they tried to get into issues. obviously donald trump is not extremely specific when it comes to detailed policy positions on
one item after another, but they point to the time he spent in the state and how seriously he's taken the state. the donald trump campaign have specific vote totals for every single statewide where they want to be, where they are in every town. it's easy do that on the back of a napkin. the question is whether or not he can get these people to show up. >> great to talk to you, james. thanks so much. we'll be right back.
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bernie sanders, hillary clinton will be taking questions. there are many undecided voters. that's 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. right now it's time for "cnn tonight" with don lemon. it is your turn, new hampshire. the candidates are out in force. this is "cnn tonight." i am don lemon. so much for conventional wisdom in iowa. cruz win. >> every pundit said there's no way cruz can win. can't happen. it's impossible. the race is done. >> donald trump, second. >> we had a very good result yesterday. could have been a little bit better. >> marco rubio surges. >> if i'm the nominee, we are going to beat hillary clinton and it won't be by the flip of a coin. promise you that. >> hillary clinton win. >> i feel really great being