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imbeciles represent the people in our government, end quote. with that, i'm brooke baldwin here in new york. thank you so much for being with me. we're going to take you to washington now. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. >> thanks, brooke. he's looking more like a politician today and less like -- well, less like donald trump. "the lead" starts right now. recalculating. republican front-runner donald trump making some tweets after his second place finish in iowa. he's pounding the pavement instead of his opponents in new hampshire today. hillary clinton and bernie sanders both of them circling left like they're on a nascar track as they battle over who's the real progressive. but did clinton stumble on the $675,000 question last night? plus, an nfl star's death that may help save the lives of future players. our dr. sanjay gupta gives us a look at your brain on football and a possible medical
breakthrough against a crushing disease. good afternoon, everyone. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we are in the thick of it, people, so of course we begin today again with our politics lead. donald trump in new hampshire, the site of the nation's first in the nation primary. in just five days, and mr. trump is not taking anything for granted. granite. it's the granite state. anyway, he has four events today. some old-school politician-like appearances. he's taking an alternate route to get around today, it's called the high road. until today a road not taken. sur lan s sunlen serfaty is on the trail. trump is noticeably toning it down today. >> that's right. he backed off of going after ted cruz, as we saw him do all day yesterday, hammering him, claiming that cruz did not win
iowa, that he stole the iowa election. well, there was absolutely none of that coming from donald trump today, and ted cruz was the one throwing the punches. on the ground in new hampshire, ted cruz reveling in taunting trump. >> donald trump is very rattled right now. he told the entire world he was going to win iowa. and then he didn't win. and his reaction is he got very angry. >> reporter: cruz now using a new weapon against trump, former president jimmy carter. the cruz campaign out with a web video highlighting what carter, the liberal democratic president, said
this week about trump. >> if i had a choice between cruz and trump, i think i would choose trump. the reason is that trump has proven already that he's completely malleable. >> cruz wearing it as a badge of honor. >> that is real. jimmy carter yesterday said
between donald trump and ted cruz, i would support donald trump and he explained why. trump said becau he said trump is malleable. he doesn't have any core
beliefs. but cruz, that guy believes this stuff. >> reporter: today a tactical shift from trump, a return to the basics, the hallmarks of his early campaign. >> we're talking about a serious wall, we're talking about a trump wall. this is going to be a wall that works, believe me. >> reporter: and noticeably absent, little boasting about polls and no attacks on ted cruz. trump blasting all politicians instead. >> i'd like to use really foul language. i won't do it. i was going to say they're full of [ bleep ]. >> reporter: the unconventional campaigner going traditional after his iowa loss. >> gotta do it. >> reporter: not only holding a big rally but the campaign beefing up his schedule with four classic retail-style stops. beating with local business
leaders, atejd a shift change at a police department and holding town halls. this comes as the other battle among the establishment candidates is erupting into an all-out war, unleashing a barrage of attacks in the last 24 hours, hammering down on marco rubio. >> he acts like the king of england. he has a press aide standing next to him and preselect which reporters will get to ask him questions. >> i think it's fair game to suggest that the two leading senators who have been successful politicians most of their adult life but haven't had a record of accomplishment they can point to. >> reporter: christie making a play at independents in new hampshire, bringing the new argument that rubio is too far to the right on abortion. >> on the issue of pro-life, marco rubio is not for an exception for rape, incest or life of the mother. now i think that's the kind of position that new hampshire voters would be really concerned about. >> reporter: and for the establishment candidates, new hampshire is so key for them. many of them have pinned their
hopes on this state, so they have a lot to gain by teaming up, going against marco rubio, trying to stop his momentum going forward. jake. >> interesting. sunlen serfaty, thanks so much. so are we seeing donald trump trying to turn over a new leaf? sara murray is in beautiful portsmouth, new hampshire, where donald trump is set to speak in a few hours. sara, do you think it's fair, as cruz describes trump as rattled? do you think that's a fair description? >> reporter: well, i don't know if i would say rattled, but i think that when you lose the first state and you're headed into a state where you have at least for now a wide lead, you want to make sure that you win here. i think that's what we've seen from donald trump and his campaign over the last couple of days. they want to make sure that they have left nothing on the field. we're seeing that in terms of them adding to their campaign schedule and also seeing that in terms of their volunteers on the ground. they're trying to get more people making calls, more people out there door knocking. it seems like one of their re realizations in the wake of iowa is that their ground game is not as strong as they hoped it would
be and trump select was not enough to get the voters out there to caucus for him, at least in iowa. >> you've been on the ground in new hampshire all week. it sounds as if trump is running a more traditional campaign there. >> reporter: i would say in some ways it's a more traditional campaign but i don't want to go too far. when we say donald trump has changed his schedule from two to four events in one day, you look at ted cruz and he's doing four or five events every single day and trump is still doing these big rallies. i think that they have realized that there is something to traditional campaigning. there is something to having your friend, your neighbor knock on your door and say here's why you should support donald trump and by the way, are you going to show up. the thing about new hampshire, it could be a much more favorable place for trump. it has a primary process and trump has had a much wider lead in the polls than he ever did in iowa as we got closer to caucus day, so those could all be things that benefit him when it finally comes down to election
day. >> sara murray, thanks. donald trump sits down for a live interview with anderson cooper this evening on "ac 360." now to the democrats. an unusual an illuminating look at the democrats when bernie sanders and hillary clinton took voters questions at a cnn town hall. both sanders and clinton revealing details about their personal faith journeys, each stumbling on questions that revealed some political vulnerabilities. those answers could come back to haunt them. cnn senior washington correspondent joe johns is live in durham, new hampshire. joe, i have to say we really got to see a new side of both sanders and clinton last night. >> reporter: jake, i think that's true. we're waiting to see bernie sanders at an event in rochester, new hampshire, within the next hour, hour and a half or so. big picture, i think you can say there were strong performances last night on both sides, as these candidates make that final push toward the vote here in new
hampshire early next week. it is turning into a battle for the left. the democratic candidates sparring over who is the true progressive. while they never shared the stage, bernie sanders slamming hillary clinton for saying she pleads guilty to being a moderate. >> you can't say you're a moderate one day and a progressive another day. >> reporter: clinton responded that she reaches across the aisle to resolve issues. >> i'm a progressive that likes to get things done. i was somewhat amused that senator sanders has set himself up to be the gate keeper on who's a progressive. >> reporter: sanders attacking clinton on her record. >> there are other issues, anderson, where i think she is just not progressive. i do not know any progressive who has a super pac and takes $15 million from wall street. the progressive community was pretty united in saying don't
listen to bush. don't go to war. secretary clinton voted to go to war. >> i don't think it helps for the senator to be making those kinds of comparisons because clearly we all share a lot of the same hopes and aspirations for our country that we want to see achieved. >> reporter: each with personal moments, answering questions from voters about how their faith guides them in daily life. >> my spirituality is that we are all in this together and that when children go hungry, when veterans go out on the street, it impacts me. that's my very strong spiritual experience. >> but when you put yourself out into the public arena, i think it's incumbent pow to be as self conscious as possible, but at the end be grateful. practice the discipline of gratitude, and that has helped me enormously. >> reporter: but clinton and sanders both had their stumbles. sanders admitting to slow
response to the problems plaguing the department of veterans affairs, an issue first uncovered by cnn's drew griffin. >> your point is fair that we should have acted sooner. we should have known what was going on in phoenix, those long waiting lines and the lies that some administrators were telling us. >> reporter: and clinton seemed ill equipped to answer why she accepted almost $700,000 in speaking fees from goldman sachs. >> look, i made speeches to lots of groups. i told them what i thought. i answered questions. >> but did you have to be paid $675,000? >> well, i don't know. that's what they offered. you know, every secretary of state that i know has done that. >> reporter: and there was a little more on that last piece today. the center for responsive politics in washington reporting to cnn that secretary clinton got something like $17 million from the financial sector by the end of december.
another $600,000 from the banks. the campaign has pointed out in the past that she did once serve as a snenator from new york and that's where wall street is, so long-standing ties there. jake, back to you. >> thanks so much. donald trump has accused ted cruz of committing fraud in the iowa caucuses. now the governor of iowa is weighing in with his own questions for ted cruz. that story, next. d of working f? well what if i told you that peanuts can work for you? that's right. i'm talking full time delivery of 7 grams of protein and 6 essential nutrients. ever see a peanut take a day off? i don't think so. harness the hardworking power of the peanut.
hey, everybody, welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. just five days until new hampshire's primary and many candidates are desperately trying to gain a foot hold to keep them in the race. let's break it down with our political panel. s.e. cupp and author of the book "buyer's remorse." bernie sanders blurbed that book and it's being used against him. >> death by a thousand blurbs. anyway, let's move on. s.e., donald trump a lot more traditional campaign today, adding events, retail politics, focusing on his grounds game. do you think he's turning over a new leaf? what do you make of this? >> well, i think he's reacting to a serious dip in the polls
since iowa. i think he's reacting to ted cruz's surge and marco rubio's surge. i even heard him earlier talking up the benefits of legal immigration. i mean out of nowhere, america is great because of legal immigration. not what you have heard trump choose to talk about over the past few months so maybe he's recalibrating after iowa, maybe he's recalibrating because new hampshire is different than iowa, it's a different audience, but he doesn't seem to have the same kind of -- >> oomph. >> oomph, hutzpah -- >> almost as if he was admitting skipping the debate was a mistake. now he's doing stuff other candidates do, like meeting with small groups of supporters. >> well, he's talked -- he didn't know what a ground game was until just recently, someone had to tell him. he seems to be admitting that, you know, he's new to all of this, which we got that. we figured that out.
>> let me ask you a question. you saw in joe johns' piece the way hillary clinton answered that answer about the $675,000 in payment for three speeches she gave to goldman sachs, i see a lot of progressives out there criticizing her answer saying how could she still not have a good answer on this. what was your reaction when you heard her say that? >> i thought it was her weakest moment. i thought they both did very well last night. but that question, you know, it's not a new question for her, right, unlike the death with dignity question. she should have had the answer down. the idea that, well, that's what they offered so big deal was tone deaf. and then she said, well, everybody else does it, right, so why shouldn't i do it. but i thought the most unbelievable was, and i was sitting with some clinton people who found it shocking when she said, oh, i wasn't even thinking about running for president. oh, come on, right? >> that seemed odd too. >> this is why so many young people in particular are flocking to bernie sanders. he's authentic, he's got this
like retrohipster cool thing. he's like the williamsburg microbrew and she's like the malt tgi friday's. she is packaged, canned, corporate. she's a chain, she's everywhere. she doesn't feel like a cause. and i think that wall street answer reminded a lot of people that she's not -- she's not a cause candidate the way bernie sanders is. >> that's interesting. let me ask you a question about donald trump. he's really laying into ted cruz for, quote unquote, stealing the iowa caucuses. i want you to take a listen to iowa governor terry branstead who commented on this as well. take a listen. >> this thing that they distributed on caucus night saying that dr. carson was likely to drop out and his supporters should support cruz, that is, i think, unethical and unfair and i think there will be
repercussions to that. >> now -- >> not a cruz fan. >> he was not a cruz fan and obviously one of the big reasons was because cruz opposes ethanol subsidies and that's a big thing for his state. could that hurt cruz? could this charge hurt cruz? >> when terry branstad came out and said anyone but cruz, that didn't hurt him. neither did his position on ethanol subsidies. but the only one to blame for this was ben carson who had the odd sense to announce the night of the iowa caulk cushion that he was going to florida. i think the ted cruz campaign took advantage of that. maybe got out over their skis a little bit but took advantage of that. and now donald trump and terry branstad are trying to make iowa not about ted cruz's surge but about ted cruz's, you know, sort of -- >> you know what i find interesting is it's gotten so negative and nasty between
bernie sanders and hillary clinton. and here the republicans are accusing one another of cheating in iowa. >> stealing. >> of stealing the election. of criminal activity. >> it's definitely much harsher on the republican side. let me ask you a question, bill. obviously bernie sanders is favored to win new hampshire for any number of reasons, including they know him there because he's from neighboring vermont. but looking forward at the calendar, it doesn't look very favorable to him going forward. i mean who knows what will happen, but south carolina, nevada, you know, the big states coming up on super tuesday. where can he win? >> couple of things. one, that is the big question, right? can he translate beyond iowa and new hampshire to basically white states, to much more diverse states. i think he showed some real movement on that last night. by the way. his answer about racial divide and where he's talking about very practical, down-to-earth things about more diversity in the police forces, about demilitarizing the police
officers, about criminal justice reform i thought resonated. today he got the support of ben gellus, former head of the naacp, which is big news in south carolina. i think he can win nevada and do well in south carolina and i think his message does resonate, to be fair, beyond just those two first states. >> i agree, but i still think that he's got to make some serious inroads into the minority populations. >> yes. the map looks challenging for him but he's doing so much better than hillary is with young women, young people in general. if those gaps end up being relatively similar, he could have a real shot of it. >> and shame on any of us, i think, for thinking that there is such a thing as a firewall. i mean every time i hear that phrase, it's been proven not true so many times. >> and then they get torn down by victories in other states. s.e., bill, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. on the ground in new hampshire, just five days before the primary. what one political insider
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. continuing with our politics lead today, today former secretary of state colin powell acknowledged that he too received e-mails to his personal e-mail address that are now, quote, considered confidential. this comes, of course, as the controversy continues to grow over hillary clinton's use of a private server while secretary of state. powell said in a statement to cnn, quote, i have reviewed the messages and i do not see what
makes them classified. if the department wishes to say a dozen years later they should have been classified, that is an opinion of the department that i do not share. the clinton campaign jumped on the statement to buttress its argument that all of this is just a debate over overclassification. and this as nbc news reports that e-mails forwarded to clinton on that private e-mail server contained veiled references to undercover cia officers. in an earlier interview, senator marco rubio made it clear to me that clinton's use of her private e-mail server would be a major issue should he get the nomination. >> this campaign is about ensuring that we can turn this country around. we're not going to turn this country around if a socialist like bernie sanders or someone like hillary clinton is elected president of the united states. >> what do you mean someone like hillary clinton? >> well, for example, someone that has in my opinion disqualified herself from being commander in chief, both in her handling of classified information where just yesterday we learned that some of the e-mails that are on her server
can't even be released because she thought she was above the law so she put them on a private server. this very highly sensitive information, which she had to know was classified or at a minimum sensitive and she still did it anyway. i guess she felt she could get away with it. and someone who lied to the families of the victims of benghazi who knew that their death was the result of a coordinated and orchestrated terrorist attack. she was saying that to other people in those e-mails but she was telling those families something different for over a week. >> clinton's response, not mine, clinton's response is this is overclassification run amok, she wants these e-mails to be released but the intelligence community overclassifies even a story that might be in "the new york times." >> but that's not her decision to make. when something is marked classified, there's a reason for it. you're protecting a source, you're protecting the method by which it was collected or it's just information you don't want your adversaries to know. you don't want them to know sensitive information, even your thought process, especially in the diplomatic corps. so her willingness to use --
whether she believes it should be classified or not is irrelevant. if a member of my staff that handles since i'm on the intelligence committee removes classified information from the building in an unauthorized way or posts it on a private server and they get caught, they would have been fired and probably prosecuted for it. and so she must think she's above the law, but she's not. >> joining me now, trent spinner, the executive editor of new hampshire's union leader newspaper. trent, thanks for joining me. >> thank you. >> so for democrats and republicans, if you had to guess right now, who do you think is likely to win the primary on tuesday? >> there's no way to tell. the polls that you're seeing coming out of new hampshire, i'll tell you right now, there's a very high likelihood that they are wrong. >> why do you say that? >> in the last few months, there have been more than 80 polls in the field here in new hampshire. 80 polls. imagine getting a phone call every single night for 80
nights. it's impossible for these pollsters to know where people are going to go. the only thing to consider is in 2008 there are now 30%, 30% of the state is different from what it looked like in 2008. so a list that a lot of these pollsters have, even if they're using random dials, just not accurate. >> right to rise, which is a super pac supporting jeb bush, has a new ad that features george w. bush.
let's take a listen to a little bit of that. >> jeb will unite our country. he knows how to bring the world together against terror and he knows when tough measures must be taken. experience and judgment count in the oval office. jeb bush is a leader who will keep our country safe. >> jeb bush -- >> now, president bush lost the new hampshire primary in 2000, he won the state later that year against al gore, but then he lost new hampshire in 2004 against john kerry.
will this ad resonate with republican voters? >> well, i don't know if it will, to be honest with you, in new hampshire. but i will tell you this, that right to rise pac has spent an incredible amount of money. in my own house, i'm an undeclared voter right here in new hampshire. the right to rise pac has spent probably hundreds of dollars sending me mailers. last night i got a mailer and it looked like a handwritten note from barbara bush. then i realized that my fiancee got the same note and it was a right to rise mailer. they have sent so much mail, it's incredible. >> so on paper clinton has the uphill battle in new hampshire. one of the reasons is because bernie sanders is from neighboring vermont so people in your state know him, have known him for decades, but clinton did win the new hampshire primary in 2008. do you think that she has a shot to win it all this time or is it just about getting close? >> right. i don't -- i think that these polls you're seeing with the 20% margin, i don't think they're
right. i think the clintons, not just hillary clinton but bill clinton have incredible connection to new hampshire and the clinton campaign, they have a -- they were out very early with a serious ground game. so i think that you're going to see that number really shrink. and hillary might actually beat bernie here in new hampshire. >> really? and donald trump is modulating his campaign tone, he's doing a lot more retail politics, not attacking his opponents. do you think that he's still favored there or is it really anybody's game? >> you know, it really is anybody's game. the other thing on the republican side, i think that what you're seeing is there might be a couple of winners. yes, donald trump might come in first place but there might be two, three, four tickets out of new hampshire. so the thing we're really going to be looking at is who some of those establishment candidates are who come close to trump or ted cruz. >> trent spiner, thank you so much. really appreciate it. >> thank you. in our national lead, a public health emergency declared
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exhibit no symptoms. florida governor rick scott is vowing to take any action necessary to stop the spread of this virus but with so many unanswered questions, does anyone even know the best course of action. alena, you're at our bureau in miami. what do we know about how these 12 people contracted the virus? >> well, jake, we know none. cases in florida involve pregnant women, which is a good thing. the 12 people infected got the virus while traveling abroad. four of the cases are right here in miami-dade county. the rest are in broward, hillsboro, lee and santa rosa county. state and local governments are working to get ahead of the virus. they want to make sure that the appropriate resources are in place in case we see an outbreak and that's why a public health emergency has been declared in the five florida counties affected. here's what the florida governor
has to say about the response. >> we're going to get ahead of this. we're going to make sure our residents are safe, our visitors are safe. we're going to do everything we can to take care of everybody in our state. it's the right thing to do, always prepare for the worst and hope for the best. >> now, the state of florida is also asking the cdc for additional testing kits. they want 1,000 zika antibody tests. those tests can tell if someone has had zika in the past. they also want 4,000 more kits to test active cases. by the way, the mosquito that typically carries zika is commonly found in florida and there are already mosquito control plans in place throughout the state, jake. >> and how concerned are officials about the possibility that the virus could go beyond florida and be transmitted to people in other states? >> there's definitely concern nationwide. at least 13 states plus the district of columbia have skirmd si confirmed zika cases and federal health officials expect to see
travel-related cases eventually in every state. they also expect to see some locally transmitted cases. what they don't think we'll see here is the same widespread outbreak they're seeing in central and south america and the caribbean and that's based on what they have seen with two other viruses that are also transmitted by the same type of mosquito, jake. >> all right, thanks so much. in our sports lead, a potential breakthrough in the deadly brain disease affecting so many nfl players. can it now be detected in living players? plus brand new polls out of new hampshire, has the leaderboard changed in that state since the iowa caucuses? we'll find out in just minutes.
welcome back to "the lead." our sports lead now, just as the nation gears up for super bowl 50, yet another former nfl player is found to have suffered from chronic traumatic encephalopathy or cte, a brain disease believed to be caused by repeated blows to the head. doctors have concluded that ken stabler had cte at the time of his death in july but the disease has never before been
diagnosed in anyone still living. that was thought to have been impossible. but now an autopsy has confirmed experimental tests that detected cte in former linebacker fred mcneill when he was alive making mcneill potentially the first person in the world to be diagnosed before death. let's bring in cnn's own dr. sanjay gupta for more on this. you got a chance to sit down exclusively with the mcneill family. what did they have to say? >> it was quite an insight into what life is like inside a home when someone suffers from cte. we hear the headlines often but don't oftentimes see the real personal part of this. and also this technology, what might it mean if we can diagnose this disease while people are still living. take a look. >> the night before he passed, he was watching monday night football, and he had his ucla slippers under his bed. he loved the game and he was proud of what he did. >> even to the end of his life,
former minnesota vikings linebacker fred mcneill loved football. >> he was a monster. he was a monster indeed, all over the field, first one to the ball. >> despite how much of his life football later took from him. >> fred did everything, he played ball, went to law school, prepared for life after football. we had the kids. you know, it was a good life. >> mcneill played in two super bowls. was really no ordinary player. his sons say no ordinary man. >> he was the best friend of ours. our first best friend. he was superman. >> and then it changed. >> it changed. cte, chronic traumatic encephalopathy entered their lives. of course at the time they had no idea what was happening. >> i remember we were playing basketball, me and him. we kind of got into an argument while playing. and he started getting aggressive with me. >> there was maybe two moments where he lost it.
and punched holes in the walls. it was like, wow. >> cte can hit hard and fast. mcneill, just in his 40s, lost his job as a lawyer, filed for bankruptcy, lost the home. >> i had a conversation with my mom and i was like, i think something is going on. he needs to go see a doctor or therapist, something, to figure out what it is. >> "it" is something i noticed myself when i first met fred back in 2010. >> just talking i can tell that it's a little bit difficult for him. do you remember my name? >> sanjay. >> you got it. >> oh, right. good. >> rage, memory loss, depression. did your father have all three of those? >> definitely, definitely, yeah. that was another point of worry for us because there was times when he would talk about ending it and we were like no way.
this is not -- this is not our dad. >> but it was their dad. a different dad. and it was easy to be angry with him. after all, they didn't know he had krcte. it couldn't be diagnosed until after his death. >> you also made the decision to have fred's brain donated after he passed away. >> well, i had made the decision early on. but yes. >> the first thing i want to show you is this. >> and now for the first time she is seeing her husband's brain and exactly what football did to it. >> the blotches you are seeing is a protein we see in cte. >> dr. bennett omalu recently made famous when will smith portrayed him in the movie "concussion." you can see how cte ravaged mcneill's brain. but perhaps even more
remarkable, the doctor tells us he already knew fred mcneill had cte before he died. how? using a pet scan technology that he helped develop and partly owns. >> you can see the red areas is identifyi identifying his brain. >> if it is true, fred mcneill would be the first person in the world to have his cte diagnosed while still alive and then confirmed with an autopsy after his death. >> it explains a lot, because i am seeing a lot of that -- the tau protein. >> but it is early, too early. just 14 nfl players, including hall of famer tony dorsett, have been examined using this technology. only mcneill's diagnosis has been confirmed. the question is will the tests be able to distinguish cte from other dementias, like alzheimer's. >> fred played in the first ten years of the league, so this is what super bowl 50 is coming, okay.
so i know there's a huge number of players and families between, you know, that point and now when fred first started playing that are going to be experiencing this. and it's important to have information for them to get help and support. >> just a remarkable and candid family, jake. a couple of points really quickly. you know, there's something known as selection bias. a lot of the people having this testing done, donating their brains, are people who are worried that they might have cte. that's in part a selection bias. also, jake, it raises this question. would you want to have a test done if there was nothing you could do about the results. there is no particular treatment, certainly no cure for this as things stand now, jake. >> wow. sanjay gupta, thanks so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. a female virginia tech student in court today charged with being an accessory in the murder of a 13-year-old girl. the prosecutor is finally saying why this young woman allegedly got involved in the grisly killing. stay with us.
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welcome back to "the lead." the national lead now. as a family holds a funeral this hour for a 13-year-old girl stabbed to death, prosecutors say two virginia tech students had a sick plot to kill her, nicole lovell's body was found this past saturday right across the state line in north carolina. just hours before today's funeral nicole's family learned a judge denied bond for natalie keepers. keepers and classmate david eisenhauer planned the murder and keepers was, quote, excited to be part of something secretive and special.
cnn's martin savidge is following this tragic case. prosecutors revealed a lot about keepers in her bond hearing today, martin. >> reporter: yeah, they did. up until now the authorities in virginia haven't said a whole lot. of course we knew it was tragic enough. you had a 13-year-old child that had been murdered and apparently horribly so. you had two promising virginia tech students somehow involved. well, today in this hearing, we began to connect the dots, at least the prosecution did. what they presented for natalie keepers wasn't that she was just someone who helped dispose of the body after the fact. no, the prosecution is alleging that she was in this plot to kill this child up to her neck. in fact that she helped figure out the way they would kill her, by slashing her throat. that they scoped out where she lived and also scoped out together david eisenhauer, the co-conspirator, where she would die. it is just hard to believe that this former nasa intern, this woman who was going to be such a promising aerospace engineer like her father, is now in jail
for the murder of this child. she apparently also went to the store to buy a shovel to dispose of the body. and again, according to the prosecution, after the deed was done rode around with the body in the back of the car she was in while they went to get cleaning supplies to mask what they had done. >> and, martin, did prosecutors shed any light on how keepers knew the seventh grade girl or anything about her relationship with the suspected killer, david eisenhauer? >> reporter: the prosecutors maintain that keepers never knew the victim. at least never met her, i should say. but did apparently handle her body after her death. and then what is the relationship between eisenhauer and keepers? we don't really know. they're not boyfriend/girlfriend. the family says that's not the case and prosecutors say that's not the case. somehow, though, they connected there at virginia tech and it was a bond that apparently was so strong that they would even conspire for murder.
meanwhile eisenhauer is thought to have an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl that they somehow met on line. it was the girl allegedly going to go forward and reveal that relationship publicly that caused eisenhauer to go over the edge, according, again, to authorities. >> and, martin, quickly if you could, is there any reason, any motive given or is this just some sick thing they wanted to see if they could get away with murder? >> reporter: motive is the one thing that was not brought up in the courtroom nor has it been brought up by the authorities here. we don't really know. we don't know why keepers would throw in with eisenhauer and why would eisenhauer feel so threatened that his only outcome he thought was to murder a 13-year-old girl. we don't know. >> it's a horrible story. martin savidge, thanks so much. he's the young ceo, the internet dubbed the pharma bro known for jacking up the price of aids medicine 5500% and also for, well, never shutting up. well, today for the first time in seemingly forever, he was
silent after pleading the fifth in front of a house committee. but his smirky smugness said enough to annoy congress. >> is it pronounced shkreli? >> yes, sir. >> see, there you can answer some questions. that one didn't incriminate you. i just want to make sure you understand, you are welcome to answer questions and not all of your answers are going to subject you to incrimination. you understand that, don't you? >> i intend to follow the advice of my counsel, not yours. >> i'm sure there are many ailing individuals out there who might like to remove shkreli's smile with the business end of a shovel. after the hearing shkreli wasn't silent on twitter. he posted a rant including a tweet that said hard to accept these imbeciles represent the people in our government. of course they don't represent the government, they are the government. maybe we'll send shkreli a
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