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all right. top of the hour, 7:00 p.m. eastern. i'm poppy harlow in new york. thanks for being with us. scenic new hampshire politically very important new hampshire. that is where all eyes are tonight as we tick off the days to the first presidential primary of 2016. where the seven top polling republican candidates are getting ready to take the stage in the final debate tonight before tuesday's primary. here's a look at who debates tonight. front runner donald trump in the center, senators ted cruz and marco rubio flanking him. trying to cut into his considerable lead not only in new hampshire but nationwide. my friend brooke baldwin is live for us in manchester tonight.
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brooke? >> reporter: hello, poppy harlow. last time we chatted last weekend it was iowa, this weekend all eyes on new hampshire a couple days away from the first in the nation primary. listen, i love being out and about and covering politics and talking to smart political minds. looking at someone you're about to see in a minute looking at me very funny. new hampshire could technically belong to any one of the seven top republican candidates because about a third of the state's republican voters tell us here at cnn that they have not made a firm decision on who they'll actually go out and support come primary night on tuesday. let me begin this hour with our political reporter sarah murray at the debate venue in manchester. i don't even know where to begin. do we talk trump, rubio, or the governors? you pick. >> reporter: brooke, the stakes are high for a lot of people on the stage. that's why it's so hard to decide who to start with. there are some people who are not going to make it out of new hampshire alive and this debate
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is their closing argument. they have just a couple days to get up there in the polls. we're looking at chris christie, jeb bush, john kasich to have a breakout moment and try to seal the deal. but, look, marco rubio is going to be at center stage, going to be caught in the middle of this cross fire. he's the guy who has a lot of unexpected momentum coming out of iowa and plenty of people are going to have their knives out for him. then you have donald trump, the unpredictable candidate in this race, the guy who was not even on stage last time. he will be here tonight and i think the question is does he take the highroad, try to stay out of the fray or mix it up with these other candidates and say, look, i don't want to take any chances in new hampshire, i want to take someone else down to make sure that i've got a wide lead. >> let me ask you about that. let's stay on donald trump because the last time we were talking about republican debate, he wasn't there. instead he chose to hold that fund-raising event for veterans. this is the first time we'll see him take center stage.
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you open up the paper today, the union leader, and one of the headlines is about how he didn't come to that event last night because of the weather. so how does he play it tonight saying new hampshire, i'm here for you, i want your vote? >> reporter: you know, brooke, some things have changed since iowa and some things really haven't with the donald trump campaign. one thing that changed is we're seeing trump do more retail politics, try and mix it up with more regular folks out and about in town and his campaign has been open about the fact they didn't have as good of a ground game they wanted in iowa and they're looking to step that up in new hampshire. the thing that has not changed are the unforced errors, the whole skipping a debate pause you're in a fight with fox news in iowa. now we move to new hampshire and he decided to fly home for the night and canceled a political event because the weather was so bad. that was a mistake he did not have to make. he could have spent the night in iowa. he could hunker down here like other candidates. but, hey -- or spent the night
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in new hampshire and hunker down here, but he has a wide lead in the state so it may not matter come primary night. most candidates would not want to take that risk. >> it does make news when donald trump actually does stay in the state in which he's campaigning. sarah you are in rhee, thank you very much. let's broaden this out and bring in my panel, mark preston, executive editor for politics, bakari sellers, cnn political comment tay or and former south carolina state representative. here we are, manchester, new hampshire. have we had a day off in a while, mike preston? >> am i the only one that didn't get the invitation to the prom? you are dressed up to the nines. >> we like to show up well here. thanks for wearing the jeans. >> i have to look good for my mom. >> this is what you call working attire in a new hampshire primary. >> this is what we call somebody who hasn't had a day off in a month so we'll give you that. let's look at the debate. i want to go to all of you. what is the number-one you'll
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watch for on that stage? >> can jeb bush come out and go after donald trump and look effective in attacking him at the same point comparing and contrasting himself with marco rubio in a way that makes him look like the ceo and marco rubio's a junior executive. >> why would tonight be any different? thus far jeb bush hasn't been successful with donald trump on stage. >> correct. has failed up to this point. jeb bush has failed as a candidate in many ways, certainly on the debate stage, has han incredible amount of experience. he needs to show it tonight. if he doesn't he's in trouble. >> kailee? >> i think bush, kasich, cruz, and rubio, the four are basically in a fight for second place. which one can have that breakout moment, that moment that gets momentum, that gets them to control the narrative. right now if you look at 2012 exit polls, 84% of new hampshire voters said the debate was important to their decision in 2012. it's huge tonight. >> because so many are undecided. >> absolutely. >> to you. >> for me it's the governors. you have to look at kasich, christie, and bush. that's the most important thing
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tonight because two of those three governors will actually make it to south carolina. one will not get a ticket out of new hampshire. >> you do say two continue on. >> i think so. if i had to pick two today i would say kasich and bush. i think bush bringing in barbara bush has been a great step. people in new hampshire are adoring that. they adore her. she's one of the most we loved figures in gop politics. and kasich has been steady, playing in the snow like richard nixon, has a new energy to him. and both of them have been plotting a ground game in south carolina. i think both make it out. >> let me follow up on that. i want to look to you. chris christie has set up shop here for a while. if he does not fare well, do you think he's out? >> i do. if you talk to the krissy folks, a couple things about chris christie, he has a bit of operation in south carolina. not huge but it's a little bit of an operation down there. the thing about chris christie is in previous debates he had been so gentle in his attacks on his colleagues on the stage and
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he only attacked on hillary clinton. however, he's been calling marco rubio the boy in the bubble. he's been very critical of him. if he goes out tonight and doesn't do that to marco rubio, he's finished. >> let me chime in about the barbara bush thing. one of the things we can't see tonight from jeb bush is his mother being tougher against donald trump than he is. he has to make it concise, a concise attack on donald trump and marco rubio but can't be petty. >> didn't barbara bush also say i think it was with our special correspondent jamie gang el, he's a little too nice being jeb bush, he needs to interrupt a little more? >> i don't know if you can ask him to be something he's not. he's been evolving. that new jeb bush ad where he uses rick santorum's words against marco rubio is one of the best political add as we've seen this cycle. if he keeps that momentum we'll have a good night. >> jeb bush has repeatedly attacked donald trump in each debate and ef time he does, in fact the cnn debate, he went after donald trump more vociferously than ever. >> talking about his wife
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columbia, but he didn't finish it. >> right. >> only one person people thought won that debate. i'm not sure it's a winning tactic. >> hang on. what about marco rubio specifically? we have been talking so much about him since he fared so well in the wake of iowa. you know, critics said, what was that, a victory speech? when he came out monday night. as he goes into the debate tonight, i feel like last week huge bull yees i on cruz. this time it feels like rubio. how does he rise above? >> he's got to be careful because he is taking incoming from all sides. ted cruz wins the iowa caucus, donald trump comes in second and we're talking about the third place winner. donald trump spent no money, came in second. everybody said it was a loss. it wasn't a loss for donald trump. ted cruz is in first place but they're all focusing on rubio. >> every arrow is on rubio. i predict you'll hear this tonight. you sided with hillary clinton on the libya invasion, sided with chuck schumer on immigration. those are bad words among the republican constituency. >> he also has the most pressure
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on him. what we saw in the last debate was when ted cruz had the most pressure on him he didn't fare as well. marco rubio has the pressure because he has to leave new hampshire with a second-place finish. he can't finish third or fourth. if he does, this so-called establishment lane has been opened up. the person we haven't talked about in this whole segment has been ted cruz. >> ted cruz. >> ted cruz literally just came off of iowa, he's been riding steady about 12, fighting for second place. as long as he doesn't finish behind ben carson i think he's okay. >> there are a lot of libertarians in that state, he need to hammer home i'm anti- -- >> but ron paul this past week said hang on, this won't work, he's a libertarian, you can't vote for ted cruz. >> new hampshire also is -- i think mark may have said it earlier this week, it's a very cheen state. >> what do you mean by clean? >> the tricks and gimmicks that ted cruz played in iowa and ben carson is the nicest man alive. >> doesn't fly here. >> doesn't fly here.
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when he gets to south carolina, any tricks, anything goes. but new hampshire is a clean state and i think people are holding that against him. >> i have so much more. don't go too far, the three of you. not quite finished. mark preston, kailee mcnerney and bakari sellers for now. don't miss the post debate special at 10:00 only here on cnn. poppy, sort of teeing up what we're looking for. incredible to think of all the different dynamics in play and that the dirty tricks don't fly in new hampshire whatsoever. it will be curious to see how they do, especially as people keep talking about the three governors because, you know, coming out of new hampshire, there will at least be minus one. >> as they say, not three tickets for three governors out of new hampshire. i like how bakari put it, clean state. i don't think if there's anything necessarily clean in politics and debates these days. we'll be watching. brooke, thanks so much. let's talk about the
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democrats. hillary clinton tries to shrug off attacks over those speaking fees from wall street. >> look, i made speeches to lots of groups. i told them what i thought. i answered questions. >> but did you have to be paid $675,000? >> well, i don't know. that's what they offered. so -- >> will those paid speeches from wall street's biggest banks affect her campaign going forward? legendary reporter carl bernstein, author of a major book on clinton, is with me next. [ sneezing ] the cold truth is, if a cold keeps you up at night... you can't work from home the next day. [ coughing ] that's why you need alka seltzer plus day night liquid gels. it's tough cold symptom fighters
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all right. you are looking at live pictures of a hillary clinton organizing event in portsmouth, new hampshire, one of a number of stops she's made today. trying to close the gap with bernie sanders, who has a wide lead with polling in that state. sanders for hi part is trying to downplay expectations he may pull off a blowout victory in new hampshire. here's what he just told our jake tapper today. >> look, obviously, vermont, new hampshire are separated by a river. we are close states. but you know what, secretary clinton won this state in 2008. her husband ran several campaigns in this state. when we began this campaign in new hampshire, we were 30 points down in the polls and she was much better known in this state than i was. so simply to say, you know, if we win this thing it's because bernie lives in vermont, just
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not accurate. >> with me now carl bernstein, the renowned former "washington post" reporter who helped crack watergate, brought down a presidency, also the author of "woman in charge." thanks for being with me, sir. >> good to be with you. >> if sanders ends up winning new hampshire but it's not by a wide margin, not talking about the near tie in iowa, but if it's not wide like the polls are showing now, how do you think people will read that? i mean, will they read it as more of a loss for him since the expectations are so high? >> i think we ought to just look at what's going on on the ground and not try to predict how others are going to read it. h's got to do reasonably well, but there is a huge story going on. i spent part of this weekend talking to people in the white house. they are horrified at how hillary clinton is blowing up her own cam pin. >> what are they saying to you? >> they are horrified that the whole business of the transcripts, accepting the
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money, that she could blow the democrats' chance for white house. they want her to win. obama wants thisser to win. but sanders has shown how vulnerable she is. these ethical lapses have tied the white house up in knots. they don't know what to do. they're beside themselves. now you've got a situation with these trasncripts a little like richard nixon and his tapes that he stonewalled and didn't release. >> carl bernstein, let's dissect that for a moment. your investigate brown down a presidency. you know scandal. show our viewers what you're talking about with the transcripts. >> a lot more involved than our investigation, but nixon brought himself down. >> led there. let's pull up the numbers so voters can see what we're talking about in terms of how much hillary clinton was paid for these speeches for the big banks from 2013 to 2014. we're talking about $1.8 million, $675,000 of that from goldman sachs. you're talking about the question that chuck todd asked her in the last debate this
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week, will you release the transcripts? joel burstein from her camp said, i don't think people are really interested in what these speeches say. they were on foreign policy, et cetera. you're saying this is akin to the tapes? >> if she stone walls on them and does not release them and enables the republicans to paint her into a corner, this is not just a vast right-wing conspiracy that is causing her problems. she has caused herself these problems. the server is not the vast right-wing conspiracy. it's hillary clinton deciding that she could put a server in her closet. the same with these transcripts. the same with accepting this money in a presidential year when she knew that she was going to probably be running for president. to the people in the white house i talked to it is unfathomable that she did this and has
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endangered president obama's legacy. they are terrified and they want bernie sanders to not do well on tuesday and hillary clinton to do well because if this keeps going like that, they see real problems ahead. >> let's play that. we have a short sound bite of anderson cooper asking clinton about that in the town hall this week about those bank payments for speeches. let's roll it. >> look, i made speeches to lots of groups. i told them what i thought. i answered questions. >> but did you have to be paid $675,000? >> well, i don't know. that's what they offered, so -- >> i want your response to that answer. what should she have said? >> i can't advise her. maureen dowd in her column tomorrow calls that answer obscene. i'll let maureen speak for herself on that. some of this is unanswerable because it represents such terrible judgment, which is what people in the white house are
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saying. they're just dumbfounded by this and want her to get back on track. how can they help her get back on track? a big night on tuesday for hillary clinton would go a long way but i don't think they're expecting it. >> let me just paraphrase what she said. hillary clinton said to anderson, if you lengthen that out, she said, basically, i didn't know at the time if i was going to run for president. i've been secretary of state. i thought maybe i'm not going to run. carl bernstein, you wrote the book on her. what do you say? >> it's disingenuous. she knew she might. and this has been a problem i say in the last pages of "a woman in charge," my book on hillary written before she ran the last time, she has had a difficult problem with the truth going back to the arkansas years. it's not about outright lying. it's about on few case, not being transparent. she is so qualified to be president of the united states. she is so much in the right lane on democratic issues. she has the experience.
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and yet she keeps tripping herself up. that's what she did in the last campaign and is doing in this cam pin. she has get herself righted, meaning up straight and moving forward and might have to show some humility and start explaining she has xer sized some terrible judgment here. i don't know what the answer is for her to do except to keep going forward. but she's got a big problem here. >> you've got the reporter instincts and this is in your blood, carl. where does this go? >> i don't know where it goes. i think the good news for hillary clinton in some ways that bernie sanders, self-described socialist, is maybe out of touch with mainstream america. but what we're seeing -- >> that wasn't reflected in iowa. >> exactly, and particularly with young people he is tuning in and touching a nerve in
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mainstream america and with young women, which is hillary clinton's worst nightmare. in fact, i think you have to go back to the candidacy of bobby kennedy in 1968 -- and i don't want to care sanders and kennedy in some regards, but this is a movement. he's right, sanders. he has started a movement. and that, too, has got the white house very upset. >> finally, before i let you go, one of the themes of this race is pragmatism versus passion, if you will. let's put it that way. you have to think back to 2008 and you talk about sort of humility. let's talk about humanity for a moment and play this very distinct moment from hillary clinton in 2008. >> and some people think elections are a game. they think it's like who's up or who's down. it's about our country. it's about our kids' futures. >> the moment when she teared
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up. that was a moment where i think a lot of people felt like they actually saw hillary clinton. will we see something like that from her this time? >> the last pages of my book are about her passion. her passion for america, her passion for doing good things on behalf of people of this country, her passion for politics, her passion for issues. and she has that fire. she has that passion. but so does bernie sanders. that's what we're seeing now. we're also seeing a different time in america. it is possible she is not in tune with the time of her country and her party. and somehow she has to get herself aligned with whatever this new strain of economic populism -- you know, she's got a problem. she is cozying up to goldman sachs and she's got transcripts that she can't release that shows her cozying up to goldman
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sachs, it's a problem. it would help her if she could get those trasncripts out there. she talks about her record, judge me by her record. part of her record is what she has said to these investment bankers in these meetings and we ought to be able to know what she said. >> carl bernstein, such an important conversation. thank you so much. as we go to break, live pictures of hillary clinton in portsmouth, new hampshire, holding the microphone now. senator al franken by her side. we'll monitor this. we'll be back in a moment. tomorrow morning, get up early because a very special commercial-free edition of cnn's "state of the union" is set with jake tapper live in new hampshire. he will interview five, name them, five, donald trump, john kasich, chris christie, hillary clinton, bernie sanders, 9:00 a.m. eastern only on cnn. coming up, a hot issue on the campaign trail in new hampshire. we are talking about the heroin
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welcome back. for many in new hampshire, it is the number-one issue right now. not the economy. not terrorism. it is heroin and drug addiction. a crisis that is threatening families and their way of life in cities and towns large and small. and a crisis that the 2016 candidates are speaking out on. >> we can't be here in new hampshire and not talk about the addiction problem in new hampshire, not talk about the fact that there have been more deaths by overdoses than car crashes in this state. >> it is a terrible problem. what do we do do? for a start, we understand that substance abuse and addiction is a health issue, not a criminal
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issue. >> our cnn national correspondent deborah feyerick went out with police on drug raids in new hampshire to see first hand how they are combatting this epidemic. >> it's a cold new hampshire morning as the manchester s.w.a.t. team quietly moves into position. within minutes, two suspected drug dealers are arrested and taken into custody. >> we're at war with the drug cartels and the drug dealers not only in this city but in the nation. >> reporter: the raid is part of a federal, state, and local operation called granite hamper. its goal, stemming the heroin epidemic ravaging new hampshire, where manchester police say every five days someone dies of an overdose. usually heroin. >> five years nag 2010 in this city we seized less than 200 grams of heroin in one year. now fast forward to 2015, we
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took over 27,000 grams of heroin off the street. >> reporter: it's a key issue for the presidential candidates. >> we can't be here in new hampshire and not talk about the addiction problem. >> a crisis. >> horrible disease. >> that wall is going to stop so much of it. >> reporter: it's weighing on voters' minds in new hampshire. another home, another raid. the s.w.a.t. team is executing a search warrant on the second floor, an apartment where a man is suspected of dealing drugs. the sun is barely even up and surveillance suggests people, possibly buyers, have been going in and out of that apartment for the last couple hours. to understand the reach of the heroin epidemic, all you have to do is look at this map. this really shows what amounts to a poisoning of america. >> it does. and what's represented here is wherever you see orange is the
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sinaloa cartel's influence in the united states. >> reporter: michael ferguson is the special agent in charge in new england for the drug enforcement administration, dea for short. >> every city and town is a heroin epidemic going on today. >> reporter: it looks like a virus just spreading. >> it is a public safety, public health -- it's a national security situation. >> reporter: ferguson says drug dealers are setting up shop in small towns across america where rent is cheap and the profit margin high. at new hampshire's state police forensic laboratory, technicians take in 750 new drug cases every month. that's 200 more than they can physically process. >> we have a backlog of about 3,500 cases. it is literally like shoveling sand against the tide. >> reporter: still, back on streets of manchester, undercover and uniformed cops keep making arrests, keep trying to hold the tide at bay. the quantities of heroin we saw are staggering.
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a ten gram finger of heroin, about the size of an average person's thumb or finger, supplies enough individual doses for 330 hits. the dea chief in new england telling us some seizures could supply thisser roin to every single resident. >> unbelievable. deborah feyerick with that report for us tonight. thank you so much. up next, back live to new hampshire. donald trump skipped the last debate but he will be front and center in tonight's debate in the granite state. what should we expect from the front-runner when he takes the stage? will he unload on his rivals or will we see a kinder, genter donald trump? jay knows how to keep nice shorts, dad...g. they don't make 'em in adult sizes? this is what the pros wear. look at the lines... -uhhh... look at the other line... -mm-mhh.. that's why he starts his day with those two scoops in deliciously heart healthy kellogg's raisin bran. ready to eat my dust? too bad i already filled up on raisins. by taking steps towards a healthy heart,
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look at these shots. this is where we get to be on our saturday night talking politics here. all eyes on the granite state, where it is debate night for the republican presidential contenders, at least for the top seven in the field. notably absent tonight will be carly fiorina, who did not make the cut to appear on the main stage. the candidates already have weathered one test here in new hampshire -- snow. supporters of chris christie broke out the shovels to help voters make it to campaign events yesterday. john kasich had a little fun dodging snowballs with aides after a town hall. watch him go. nice. front-runner donald trump took a little heat for canceling his event last night here in new hampshire. he said, you know, weather was too bad. he stayed in new york. he is back in the state. i love that, though. i think we should do that later, especially you. what are the expectations for
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trump and his challengers going into the debate tonight. i have mark preston, republican strategist kailee mcnerney and cnn commentator bakari sellers. good to have you back. snowball fight later. >> i'm down. >> we all know we'll be watching this debate tonight with these republicans. who has the most to lose? >> that's a really good question. several people probably have the most to lose. jeb bush does, chris christie, john kasich, ted cruz will be fine, he'll move on. marco rubio will be fine. donald trump will be fine. he'll move on. you know who has already lost is carly fiorina. >> i was going to say. >> not on the debate stage. if anybody wants to know she's having a date night tonight. >> with her husband. >> sent an e-mail complaining about not being there. she'll be in room 302, a bizarre e-mail. >> nevertheless. >> had a lot of trouble. the republicans have had a lot of trouble whittling the field down. two debates, which has never happened in the history.
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we've done several of them. now they're down to one debate. carly fiorina didn't make it. she's very upset. so be it. >> do you agree, carly fiorina? >> i think the gop just, you know, gave carly fiorina her final death knell. this is going to be the end of her campaign. i don't see her making it out of here. i think she deserved to be on the debate stage. she did beat chris christie in iowa. it doesn't bode well the aesthetics aren't good. it doesn't bode well for the gop. >> not at all. i wish the rnc would have interven intervened. i was disappointed they didn't. i think chris christie has the most to lose. unlike kasich, bush, cruz, we're all kind of vying for double digits in second place, christie, despite putting in an immense effort here, is in single digits. so tonight if he doesn't have that breakout moment i don't think he stays. >> al trump has something to lose because trump's mystique is that i'm a winner and losing new hampshire -- >> i don't think there's much mystique to that when you say it. just saying. >> it's been working. he believes he's a winner.
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>> if i may cut you off, i want to play some sound. donald trump got real and personal with anderson cooper in new hampshire earlier this week talking about his brother, talking about addiction. we all know heroin is a big issue here in new hampshire. i think a lot of people appreciated a much different look at donald trump. >> he got hooked on alcohol, just hooked. ultimately it just was devastating. that's why i don't drink. i don't drink. i don't drink. i don't drink. i don't smoke cigarettes. i don't take drugs. those are the three good things. i won't tell you the bad things. i probably wouldn't be here talking to you today if we didn't -- if i didn't have my brother fred. because he kept me off alcohol. maybe with my kind of a personality i'd be a serious alcoholic. i just don't know. but i never had a glass of alcohol in my life only because my brother said, don't you dare. he was a tough guy in his own way. don't you dare ever drink. because he knew he had a
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problem. >> my point being, looping back, bakari, we've seen in this post-iowa era a more humble maybe more personal donald trump. >> i've run a race before that you've lost and there is nothing more humbling than being rejected by the people you hoped to represent. so even if donald trump has lost a deal before or anything else, it's not like being rejected at the polls. he felt that even with his ego. it's making him a better candidate because what everybody wants to see is, is donald trump a human being, a real person? he's connecting with voters. if i was his consultant i would say we want more of that. >> better in the polls when he wasn't acting so humble and presidential, am i wrong? >> the thing about donald trump -- and i was here a few weeks ago before we decamped in iowa for a few weeks. everybody here was telling me if donald trump losing or comes in second in iowa he needs to come out humble. guess what? he did that. he's done that for a few days. this morning he sends out a tweet that says, look at poor jeb bush getting his mommy to
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come attack me, you know, that's not nice. he can't stop himself. right? donald trump can't stop himself. when you see that donald trump talking about addiction, which has touched everybody, we all know somebody, that's the moments you see. >> let's make clear, donald trump didn't lose in iowa. he came in second and lost by 6,000 votes. i still consider a win in a state like aaye wa he's not amenable too. that tape was excellent. that plays so well in the states. the fact his kids are upstanding individuals he taught not to smoke and drink as well. that is exactly what the states want to see on super tuesday. >> for now, thank you so much. the debate coming up later tonight. we'll have a whole postgame with erin and that whole team. don't miss it. more politics to discuss from new hampshire. we will be right back. [ sneezing ]
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the months-long feud between donald trump and jeb bush continues with bush's mother, former first lady barbara bush, giving her take on a republican front-runner in an interview with cnn. >> he doesn't give many answers to how he would solve problems. h sort of makes faces and says insulting things. i mean, he's said terrible things about women. terrible things about military. i don't understand why people are for him for that reason. i'm a woman. i'm not crazy about what he says about women. >> this morning trump fired back on twitter, "wow, jeb bush, whose campaign is a total disaster, had to bring in mommy to take a slap at me. not nice!" paul steele, thanks for being with me, policy adviser to jeb bush. >> good to be with you. >> i'm wondering why this tat for tat on twitter with trump.
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here's what jeb responded. he said my 90-year-old mother made it out to campaign. talking about donald trump delaying his town hall yesterday until monday because of the snowstorm. why go tat for tat with trump on twitter? >> well, i think for months now you've seen jeb will be hg to take on the republican front-runner, donald trump, when other republicans are in the witness protection program. and he's proud to have his family support him. but he's also running on his own record of accomplishment because we can't belt hillary clinton without a candidate who has a real record of accomplishment and jeb does. >> all right. i'm not sure that answered what i was asking, but let's move on. when you look at how he has finish. look, he said in that interview, he said this is my second home, talking about new hampshire. and he talked about how important it is. here's how matt bye, the national political reporter for yahoo! put it, that stood out to me. "bush fundamentally misread the
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seismic signs of the moment. having been out of elective office for eight years, bush took too long to grasp that the anger fuelling the conservative revolt was as much as about the republican establishment, which the bush name has become snons -- as it was about obama." what is your response to that? has he misread the electorate? >> not at all. there's a lot of frustration and anger out there, but a lot of that frustration and anger comes from president obama's failures over the past seven years. we need a real reform-minded conservative with a railroad of proven results to get things done in washington, to do things the fix the broken system. the balanced budget amendment, line item detail, tax reform to get our economy moving again, regulatory reform. that's why jeb bush not only has a record of accomplishment but the most detailed plans for the future. no other candidate in this field can match that. >> his mother said in that interview, which i'm sure you saw, may have been standing there with jamie, she said he's
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too nice. trump said there's nothing about this -- you know, you can't be too nice. you're still firm on x, y, and z. do you think that's part of it? did barbara bush have a point there? >> no. i think that there's a difference between insults and respect and civility and that donald trump isn't going to be able to insult his way to the presidency. his insults against women, against hispanics, against p.o.w.s like john mccain, who is an american hero, aren't going to get him the white house. >> walk me through the game plan, we're three days out. how do you guys have to do? >> well, i think we have to finish in a competitive spot here where the only governor in the race has the resources to go past new hampshire. a team in south carolina, nevada, the march one states, governor john kasich and christie don't have that. we think we're going to be
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competitive here. jeb had 700 people at his town hall today. he is fighting hard for every vote. the chair of the republican party who is nonpartisan or not affiliated with anyone in this race says we have the best ground game so we think we'll finish strong. >> what does strong mean? quickly, one, two, three, four? >> i think we're going to be very competitive here. these polls have donald trump and a jump ball for second, so we're able to finish competitively here, and going after south carolina. >> you're going after that jump ball. thank you for your time here. thank you. >> i want to give you breaking news in cnn, the breaking news is that north korea launched a long-range missile according to the defense ministry. we'll take a look at that on the other side.
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all right, breaking news just in to us here at cnn, the south korean defense ministry telling us that north korea has launched a long-range rocket. this comes after u.s. and south korea warned pyongyang against the move. elise, let's walk through what we know and what u.s. officials are saying right now. >> well, poppy, we're also hearing the same from u.s. officials that they believe that north korea just has launched a satellite which also you know, we have been talking about for you know the last few days. it is also considered an intercontinental long-range ballistic missile. this is the concerns about a long-range ballistic missile and war head, that north korea could be able to launch a long-range
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missile against the united states. right now the u.s., along with south korea and along with japan will track this satellite, this missile, to see how far it went. what the trajectory is and whether it was successful. i mean, at the end of the day, of course they don't want north korea to have a successful satellite launch. but in some ways, the launch itself is really what is concerning, poppy. because every time north korea launches a missile of this range it's perfecting that capability and the concern is some day it could have the capability to reach the united states. >> right, and also elise, the u.s. officials saying this type of rocket when you look at the type, they could be used to carry a satellite, for example. they could also be used to deliver a nuclear war head. i want to talk about this in just the global picture because you know the geopolitical implications of this, as well. i mean, japanese prime minister
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shinzo abe talked about this. >> reporter: satellite is really a cover for a long-range missile. so the idea that north korea would launch a satellite into space is really not so much of a concern. it's the range of the missile. and that is why everyone is so concerned. you know, everybody is going to say, pop y rpy, and of course i true that north korea violated the u.n. security council resolutions. let's face it, this is on the heels of the test that north korea did last year. so usually what north korea does is waits for international reaction. wants to see what happens at the u.n., some type of punishment, and it will then act out with a launch of this sort. it did not wait. right now the deliberations at the security council are still
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ongoing. but north korea said consequences are okay, let's launch. that is what is concerning, that kim jong-un, the leader of north korea is becoming increasingly erratic and unpredictable and doesn't care about the consequences. so certainly, in response to the nuclear test, in response to this launch tonight, there will be a robust international reaction. how tough it will be, what type of sanctions the u.s. will be able to get through the security council with the chinese, who are very protective of north korea as their neighbor and largest benefactor. and what the sanctions will be are unclear, we're really dealing with an unstable north korean leader. >> thank you, elise labbot, much more after this on the breaking news. women love? strippers.
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. all right, updating our breaking news tonight, north korea has launched a long-range missiline in missile. that is according to the south korean defense ministry. also a cnn official says they can confirm they have detected an official launch from north korea. based on its trajectory as we track it, it does not pose a threat to the united states or its allies. this has been viewed as a missile test. we'll have much more on this during the evening news. for more, go to, for the breaking news again that north korea has launched a long range missile. tonight, the cnn republican debate post-show hosted by our
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