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and welcome back. 9:00 p.m. eastern time. in just three hours, in three tiny new hampshire communities, all of the talking stops and the first primary of the 2016 election begins. in short, this is it. candidates have been campaigning all day, well into the night.
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hillary clinton still speaking. bernie sanders event just finishing up as the final cnn pre-election polling numbers come in and the snow is coming down. of course, it is new hampshire and it is winter. secretary clinton still trails sanders by a two to one margin. while the gop race, donald trump campaigns later in the night remains comfortably ahead of the republican pack. up 24 points on jeb bush. even though governor bush, who just wrapped up his event, is way back in fifth place, he seems to be holding on to his spot as donald trump's favorite punching bag. donald trump took a punch against him as well as ted cruz and used a word we haven't heard him say. the latest jabs and tweets and bad blood leading up to it all. jim acosta has all of that. >> jeb is a lightweight, let me tell you that. >> reporter: new hampshire primary boiling down to this, a fight between donald trump and jeb bush and ted cruz. >> donald trump said this.
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see, i'm the only one taking on donald trump. i'm not afraid of donald trump. he's like a child. he's like a spoiled child. >> reporter: only this time bush, who has ignored these attacks before, is battling back. >> donald trump, you're the loser. >> reporter: bush is counterpunching hard in what may be a last-ditch effort to save his own campaign. >> donald trump organizes his campaign around disparaging people as a sign of strength. it's not strong to insult women. it's not strong to castigate hispanics. it's not strong to ridicule the disabled. >> reporter: the two men are at war on twitter. trump tweet, "everybody is laughing at jeb bush. spent $100 million and is at the bottom of the pack, a pathetic figure" and bush tweeting back, "you're a loser."
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even though the bush family has led the gop through two presidencies -- >> look at that awesome selfie. >> vote for trump! vote for trump! >> reporter: trump supporters don't seem to mind. >> does that bother you to hear donald trump going after jeb bush or the bush family? >> not really. he's into it. jeb hasn't been too kind to him either, so -- >> not at all. because obviously he knows something that some of us may not and obviously another bush in the white house isn't the right thing for us. >> reporter: as a new poll shows, trump is still way out in front. the other big fight appears to be for second place. rubio is playing defense after his shaky debate performance from over the weekend. >> this notion that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing is just not true. >> there it is. the memorized 25-second speech. there it is, everybody. >> reporter: rubio, who seemed glued to anti-obama talking points. >> i believe it's true. >> reporter: also, john kasich
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and ted cruz is fighting for third place. >> we never viewed any of these states as a must win. winning is better than losing. we are here in new hampshire competing for the votes and at this point it's a turnout game. >> jim acosta joins us tonight. jim, i've been seeing some tweeting in the last couple of minutes but a word that was spoken at the event tonight? >> reporter: that's right, anderson. donald trump is feeling so confident about his chances here in the new hampshire primary that he quoted a woman in the audience who described ted cruz as a part of the woman's anatomy that i cannot say on national television. i won't elaborate any further. at another point in the speech he went over marco rubio's debate performance and said he was sweating like a dog. but as you heard in our piece, anderson, trump supporters have not minded these comments before and they didn't mind them here tonight. as a matter of fact, that comment about ted cruz really got the crowd going here.
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the trump campaign, they are pretty confident. they are seeing new hampshire as being different than iowa. they thought iowa was about explaining the confusing caucus to their voters. >> just so we're clear, a word used by a person in the crowd and then he repeated it and sort of jokingly reprimanded her. is that correct? >> reporter: that's right. just to be perfectly clear, a woman said it first in the crowd and then donald trump had the chance to repeat it or not repeat it and he went out and repeated it to this audience of about 5 or 6,000 people and they seemed to really enjoy it, i have to tell you, anderson, it's a word i've never heard out on the campaign trail before. we have gone where no came has gone before in that regard, anderson. >> jim acosta, thanks. i want to bring in our old friend and former colleague paul ste steinhauser who is in his element right now. trump has a big lead in new hampshire according to the
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latest polls but still feeling the sting from iowa. what did he say to you about it? >> reporter: i talked to him this afternoon. he didn't use any profanities. he was a little more reservd. take a listen. can you continue on if you don't finish first here and you didn't finish first in iowa? >> yes, i can. but i would love to finish first here and i think i probably finished first in iowa if you add in the votes that were wrongly taken away from ben carson so i think i did really great in iowa. it's a caucus state, not the place that i'm used to. i like this much better where you go in and vote. we're going to do really well in new hampshire. >> reporter: you know, he's been up in the polls here by double-digits for so long but if donald trump doesn't win by at least 10% here, others will look at it as a loss for donald trump. anderson? >> you also pushed him a bit on his conservative credentials compared to senator cruz.
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>> reporter: yeah, because he's been battling with senator cruz for quite some time on this. here's how it went. ted cruz talks about being a very conservative candidate. he says he's real conservative in the race and you are not. he also says he's trying to reignite the reagan -- is ted cruz trying to have it both ways? >> i think so. look, ted's been nice to me and i've been nice to him the last couple of weeks. we've been going at it for a bit. he talks about he's the conservative, the big conservative and he is to a certain extent but i'm the toughest by far on immigration or illegal immigration. there's nobody close. i'm the one building the wall. these people don't even talk about the wall, although he did mention it quickly one time last week. i mean, he's another person that's a competitor. he's one of a number of people. we started off with 17 and now we're down to 8 or 9 or 10 and they are rapidly leaving. i think we're going to have an amazing election tomorrow. it's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
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>> reporter: trump also talking about the rubio performance and cease so media savvy. i stumbled for a second and said, do you want to do it again? that's classic donald trump style. >> i'm somebody who stumbles 45 times an hour, i felt your pain. that wasn't even a stumble compared to what i do. paul, thanks for being with us. back to our panel, i mean, tomorrow, there are still a lot of republicans, as you were showing the cnn/wmru poll. >> there's still a mixture among candidates. if donald trump does not win tomorrow night, it would be stunning because of the size of that lead. iowa is close. trump underperformed his poll numbers again and somebody gets close to him. if somebody beats him, that would be a stunning collapse, given the poll numbers.
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>> did they learn lessons from iowa? do we know? >> they have veterans on the team up there. a primary is different from a caucus. a television message helps you all day. we'll see tomorrow. this is still fascinating for me to watch him in the conversation with paul there because, remember, he's never run before. he's been in one election and he came in second and he thought he was going to win. whether you like him or hate him, the psychology of donald trump is fascinating to watch because you know despite his public bravado, it's going to be tense waiting for the results to come out. >> we should point out, this is different terrain than iowa. 63% of the vote in iowa was evangelicals, not hospitable to him there. value voters who didn't respond to him. new hampshire is much more secular, probably a third of the number -- a third of a percentage will be evangelicals and they are more moderate and he's done better with moderate
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voters and you've got this big slug of independent voters who can go to either -- and he does very well among independent voters. he's led in 76 public polls in new hampshire. so it would be stunning if he lost tomorrow. >> right. and this is where he's so smart, though. he knows who his enemies are at any given time. and so he's picking on -- he's picking on jeb and he's picking on moderates, the governors because he knows that he's got to get their independent voters to keep his -- to keep his margin up. so he knows who his opponents are at any given time and that's always -- that's always been how smart he is about this. >> and i think the question is, if he wins tomorrow, you talked about his sort of psychology, how does that change his as a cann candidate? >> not at all. >> it's aums like we've seen him at times dialed down.
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he has a trump-tastic way of dealing with people. but then you have sort of the old trump coming forward. >> humble upon victory. >> let's go over to our political commentators here. jeffrey, you're a trump supporter. he's going after bush even though bush is so far down on the polls. does that make sense to you? >> sure. because the bushes, i like them, they are the ultimate symbol of the establishment and so it makes perfect sense. this is exactly what you don't want. this is why -- you know why, folks, you heard an earlier -- somebody being interviewed and he said we don't want any more bushes. >> we saw a slight tick-up for cruz although it's hard to tell if it was before the debate, not
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after the debate. it's still kind of -- a lot could happen tomorrow. >> yeah, a lot could happen. i think he has a good amount of support on the ground in new hampshire. he's looking to have a good showing third or fourth. there are two things that could help cruz going into south carolina that don't mean a win for him. one, donald trump doesn't have a big, huge winning margin. knocks him down another leg after cruz beat him in iowa. but also, lack of consensus among the establishment lane because rubio appears to be stumbling a bit. that could be a lot tighter and the longer that kasich, rubio and ted cruz stays in, the better life is for jeb bush. >> we talked about this a little bit in the last hour but politico and others reporting about drama in the campaign, a concern about whether or not they should retool somehow. you say just stay the course? >> yes. and john podesta, more importantly, says that. he is campaign chair. he put out a tweet and said do not believe what you read.
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it's a shock but -- >> hillary clinton is giving an interview saying, look, this is ridiculous. i don't know where this is coming from. of course, we're going to look at where we are as we move forward but this is the team that we have. >> right. and the challenge hillary has is not staff. it's appealing to young people. the challenge that he will have is in vermont. they talk about new hampshire being a home game for donald trump and it is for bernie sanders who represents the state next door who does extraordinarily well with white voters, even whiter than iowa. now that it's snowing, it's whiter still. it's a whiteout. once you get to more diverse communities, hillary has a much better track record. >> as a supporter, do you buy that argument? that's what the hillary campaign has been saying, wait until nevada, wait until south carolina. >> look, it's clearly a challenge for bernie because of who he is, a senator from
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vermont. it's not been necessarily his issues. but i think, again, they are underestimating underestimating appeal of bernie sanders which they have done from the beginning and it's showing. if they are not retooling, they ought to be retooling. he resonates beyond just white voters and appeals to young people and he talks about core with martin luther king. he's not unknown. ben jealous help as lot. >> former president of the naacp. >> of the naacp. i say watch out for south carolina and nevada, paul. >> the only human being, beside a politician, i've ever seen do this. the thumb like this. i've never seen an actual human being doing that other than a politician. >> let me tell you, to my family that means something. it's a hidden significant flat. >> the thumb on top, that's only a political thing.
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>> we use other gestures. >> exactly. exactly. >> i'm glad i bring some distinction. >> i'm amazed that a human being has actually done that other than a politician. we're going to take a quick break. just ahead, i'll talk to hillary clinton's campaign manager -- i'm over here now, about that shake-up i just mentioned. plus, what to watch out for tomorrow night. tracking the primary by the numbers. we'll be right back. think of it as a seven seat theater...
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well, just hours away from the first primary of 2016, both the clinton and sanders campaigns holding late-night events this evening. joining me is jeff weaver. just because somebody disagrees with senator sanders doesn't mean that person is part of the establishment. >> well, i think that's a strawman. i don't think we've ever said because you don't agree with sanders you're a party establishment. i don't think that that's real. i think it's a strawman that the president has created. >> were you surprised to hear the former president saying some of the things that he did? >> well, clearly, we were disappointed. we've tried to keep this a campaign on the issues and, you know, i certainly understand that the dynamics of the race have changed and that, you know, there is some disappointment and frustration on the part of the other side and, you know, we hope that this race, once we're past new hampshire, could return
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to more positive issues focused discussion. >> the clinton campaign is also saying, look, senator sanders took money in the past from the democratic senatorial campaign committee which got its money from wall street. secretary clinton has gotten a lot more over the years but their argument is that bernie sanders is not some political purist and has benefited from big money. i want you to be able to respond to that. >> look. this is the deal, when he ran for the senate he received less than $100,000 from the dnc and gave $100,000 to the vermont party. this hardly compares to having a super pac that just raised $25 million, 15 million of which was from a wall street interest campaign funded by big money and special interests. look, bernie sanders campaign is funded by a million individual contributors. average contribution is $27. it's a people-powered, people-orienteded campaign and.
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>> i asked senator sanders if he's still an underdog and he said he thinks he is. obviously we all know polls can be wrong but should he win tomorrow night but not as by big of a margin as some expect, could the clinton campaign claim some sort of momentum? >> well, they can claim whatever they want. let's be clear about this. there's only one candidate in the democratic primary who has won and that's secretary clinton who beat then senator obama in 2008. she won by a point. the clinton campaign, they are running a very effective and competent campaign. they've put a lot of effort here into new hampshire. we don't take anything for granted. i think the poll that i saw just recently is a little bit exaggerated, frankly. >> i want to give you the opportunity to respond to former
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secretary of state madeleine albright where she said there's a special place in hell for women who don't support each other because obviously sanders is doing well with younger women. >> well, i think all of the young women who spoke about this on social media have said it much better than i can. >> all right. jeff weaver, good to talk with you. thank you. we'll see what happens tomorrow. it's going to be an exciting day. tonight, bill clinton took issue with senator sanders comments about the money she's taken from wall street and blasted sanders over online attacks on her. listen. >> if she really were so close to wall street you couldn't trust her, which is what her opponent has implied, they would be advertising against him, wouldn't they? but they are not. they are advertising against her. people who have gone online to defend hillary and explain -- just explain why they supported her have been subject to vicious trolling. and attacks that are literally
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too profane, often, not to mention sexist to, repeat. the hotter this election gets, the more i wish i were just a former president and just for a few months not the spouse of the next one because i have to be careful what i say. >> over the last couple of days, former president bill clinton on the campaign trail asked about the shake-up in her campaign and said she would be taking stock of the campaign structure but said she's committed to her current team. her campaign manager, robby muck, joins me now. robbie -- actually, i'm sorry. i'm told we're going to take a quick break and we'll talk to robbie when we come back. we'll take a short break. rtant. from the makers of one a day fifty-plus. one a day proactive sixty-five plus. with high potency vitamin b12 and more vitamin d.
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we had some technical difficulties getting to clinton campaign manager robby mook. we have just ironed them out. good to have you on the program. i want you to be able to respond. there are reports that there could be a shake-up inside the clinton campaign, because former president clinton, according to
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one cnn source, a quote, lack of imagination, hasn't been forward looking enough. >> well, secretary clinton herself addressed this today. those reports are not true. a lot of people like to gossip. but honestly, we don't have time for that on the campaign. we are out there fighting to make sure that every woman gets paid the same as a man, make sure every child has a good future. there's way too much at stake in this campaign and we're just focusing on the issue and going out and earning everybody's vote. >> are you going to be looking, obviously as you move forward, it's a different electorate, to nevada, to south carolina, are you going to be looking at what worked, what didn't? >> well, absolutely. we do that after every state, after every campaign. we love doing after-action reviews. the fact of the matter is, we won iowa. that has an historic victory. hillary was the first woman to win the iowa caucuses. obviously she came in third last
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time. winning felt a heck of a lot better than losing. we have an uphill battle in new hampshire but then we go on to nevada, south carolina and super tuesday and we have have plan to go deep into the primary, whatever it takes to get the winning number of delegates. >> former president clinton is obviously taking a much more pointed attack against senator sanders in the past couple of days. is that something planned out by the campaign? is that something that he decides to do on his own? how does that work? >> well, he was making points that secretary clinton has made herself in debates and the campaign has been making for some time. senator sanders has been attacking secretary clinton for taking money from wall street. but we just discovered this week that he was hobnobbing at big retreats using money from the dscc funded by wall street to run his 2006 campaign.
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so the campaign has simply been pointing out, it's one thing to talk the talk but senator sanders also needs to walk the walk. >> so -- but can you say that's something -- i'm just curious on how the former president is utilizing the campaign. is that something -- there's a call in the morning, says, you know, what let's emphasize this today or something that he just decides to go with? >> he's a very experienced campaigner. you know, briefing him constantly on the campaign. obviously we're briefing him constantly on the campaign. but he's just reinforcing points that secretary clinton and the campaign itself have been making for some time. >> also, former secretary of state madeleine albright, as you know, suggested that women who don't support other women will, quote, have a special place in hell. secretary clinton kind of got a big laugh out of that on the stage. that didn't seem to be something she knew about in advance. are you worried that something like that may not strike the right chord, particularly among younger women voters? >> well, we're working very hard
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to earn everyone's vote, particularly young women. i am obviously in our field offices all the time. we have outstanding volunteers of all ages young and old. secretary clinton is not asking anyone to vote for her because she's a woman. they are asking them to vote for her because she has been fighting to breakdown barriers for families for decades. she has a long record of accomplishments. she's worked across the aisle. she took on the insurance companies to get health care for every american when she didn't succeed she got the children's health insurance program for 8 million children. so she's asking people to vote for her because she can produce real results that are going to make a difference in people's lives, not because of her gender. >> robby mook, thank you for being with us. fascinating to watch tomorrow. two hours before the new hampshire towns begin to vote. they drop their ballots into boxes. they will be the first ones to vote. first to report, hardly the last
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places to watch. trying to get an early read on the outcome. back to answer the question to where to look for some early signs, john king breaking it down for us by the numbers. so john, let's talk about tomorrow, what happens when the returns start coming in. where will you be looking for clues on the democratic side? >> let's go back. there's the map of new hampshire. on yously it will fill in tomorrow night. clinton/sanders, let's go back to clinton/obama. first we're going to look over here. see this lighter blue? that's barack obama. we're going to look over there and down here. number one, let's come over here. hanover and dartmouth college. 60% of the vote in hanover. it's small. 1% of the state's population. a lot of municipalities this in the western part of new hampshire. again, this is right along the border. senator sanders needs to run it up big there.
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and then over here, on the sea coast, again, portsmouth, less than 2% of the population -- see, senator obama won over here, not as much and then on the sea coast he won a bit bigger. this is where you have to see senator sanders running up the numbers and quickly, david axelrod can remember this, the reason hillary clinton came back to win, is because of manchester. 8%, 9% of the population now. 45% to 35%. the late count in 2008, we were waiting and methodically turned out to vote here. blue collar traditional voters. >> what about when it comes to the republican candidates? >> let's flip it over and go back. here's quickly the 2016 map on the republican side. names listed in alphabet cal order because we have no results yet. let's look at 2012. i'm going to start with the iowa winner. we don't expect ted cruz to win new hampshire tomorrow night but
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these are places that ron paul won back in 2012. if ted cruz is to win -- not win but have a strong showing in new hampshire and could conceivably win if there's a surprise, he has to get these libertarians. this is the wrong poll vote. it has to go to ted cruz. he's been courting them. this is mitt romney all the way up here. not a lot of people live up here. this is where you have seen the republican candidates, from here down to the bottom part of the state closer to massachusetts. this is where you see bedford. it's right here outside of manchester. there we go. i was at a chris christie rally and jeb bush rally a mile apart here. it's a suburb. you have the mainstream establishment republicans. they've been cord donning them down there. governor christie is down here along the massachusetts border. a lot of people from massachusetts have moved up. this is where you find your traditional voters. as we watch southern manchester fill in tomorrow night, that will tell us if the republican race has decided to break late
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for the establishment candidate or if we get kind of muddled. >> a lot to watch for. john, thanks very much. let's go to our political commentators. amanda, how many people can move out of new hampshire onto south carolina on the republican side? >> a lot of it depends on money but also momentum. a number of people will get a ticket. certainly trump, cruz and then it's a competition between rubio, kasich, christie and bush for how much energy they have. and really what concerns me is that jeb bush has so much money. >> still? >> it doesn't matter how poorly he performs. he's going to have the money to continue and no one can tell the bushes no. that's a big part of the problem in our party and maybe they can tell the clintons no but not being able to force jeb out when he's such a poor candidate and takes that support from somebody more viable like rubio. >> one thing i'm seeing on my part is emerson college poll and
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they apparently got iowa correct. they had jeb bush surging into second place, 31-16. do you know? >> well, the bush people and the kasich people both believe their internal polls are outperforming what everybody else's polls are. i think for jeb it's going to be, can he beat marco rubio? >> they both have spent an enormous amount of time in that state. >> i was with john kasich when he did his 100th town hall. jeb has parked himself in new hampshire lately. so, by the way, has chris christie, we should say. but those campaigns are fighting not only to try and be second place but they have to finish ahead of marco rubio and particularly jeb bush because he's been spending an awful lot of money attacking, i'm going to do this, anderson, he's been spending an awful lot of money just attacking marco rubio and he's been pounded for it by the so-called republican
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establishment. why are you doing this to the guy, we think he can go all the way. if he doesn't beat marco rubio in new hampshire, it's a real problem. >> this explains, though, if he is surging, it explains why donald trump is going after them because this would be as well. >> one thing i wonder is if people believe bernie sanders is as far ahead as the cnn polls suggest, do some of these independent voters migrate to where the action is and go over to the republican side? if they do that, it can boost kasich and some of the more moderate republican candidates. so i think that's something to watch. >> well, let's take a quick break. we're going to have more with our panelists and a lot more to talk about ahead including how the campaign may take a loss tomorrow night. and how marco rubio may enter the race depending on what will happen. nine voters are less tan 2 1/2 hours away from their time in
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winter weather may be throwing a wrench. it's feeling a lot like 2008 with the clinton campaign up against the ropes. back with the panel joining us right now, let's talk to our political analysts and reporters. >> you introduce us, one voter short of dixville notch. but we're more willing to share our opinion. >> you know, it is -- there are -- it is reminiscent of 2008 and it's not. the reason that it's not is because once you get past new hampshire, those states turn very favorable for hillary clinton. you know, that's why, as i said earlier, i'm sort of shocked that -- it seems to me that they are overreacting to bernie sanders and overreacting to this particular primary and i think it's making them look, frankly, a little more frantic than they should be. >> let me ask you, back in 2008, when you were with the obama campaign, did you know how much
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hillary clinton was moving up in new hampshire? because she entered 18 points behind, right? >> we quit polling on sunday because we wanted to save a little money and so we probably -- if we had polled one more day, we could have been prepared for the bad news. but we felt it shifting. you know, we had a bad debate. we came in -- i mean, i really -- >> that was the debate where -- >> your likable -- but i also felt it after that, subsequent to that, that the voters of new hampshire knew that if they had voted for barack obama in that primary, essentially the race would have been over and they wanted to see him tested. they wanted to see the race go on. >> you talk about debates having an impact and again we don't know the impact of rubio from saturday night. but you just mentioned the impact of your likable enough hillary with candidate obama during that race and how that affected -- how that affected him. >> for years, she looked like a kind of cautious front-runner sitting on top, you know, a
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podium and she came down to earth here in new hampshire and became a much more sympathetic figure. >> emotional? >> she was david and we were goliath and you could see that happening as each day ticked on to the primary. we felt it slipping away. >> wow. >> i think hillary clinton -- i traveled and saw the campaign in flint, michigan, when she was there on sunday. i think that's a preview of what's to come, at least the campaign hopes in south carolina. she spoke to a black church, about 800 people there, mostly black women, came into a standing ovation from this crowd, shouts of hillary, hillary, president clinton, it's your time, and walks off from the pulpit. >> did she leave with a standing ovation? >> she left with standing ovation. the preacher almost cried after her talking to these people.
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we know she's going to south carolina on friday. i think you're right. there's a panic mode after these first two contests that look nothing like the rest of -- >> bill clinton is maybe the greatest political talent of our time and he was for barack obama in 2012 the absolute most valuable player. >> on the campaign trail. >> brilliant, brilliant all the way around. i don't think in 2008 and from what i'm seeing in the last few days in 2016 that he's necessarily the best point of the sphere for hillary clinton. >> why? >> because he's too emotionally involved. i think he goes farther in attacking opponents on her behalf. he's funny and artful and he was in 2008 in going after the republicans. you can see that. he just feels emotionally invested -- >> let's talk about michael bloomberg. the idea that he could ender this race, what sort of an impact -- where do you see this? >> trump, sanders or clinton who
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now says home is new york and bloomberg. three new yorkers, just what the country is looking for, right? >> you got a problem with that? >> if you look at the data now, it's hard to see michael bloomberg running. who is he going to take votes from? he's going to take your guns and big gulp. but i just say this, he's serious about this. i know that he's talked to a very tested republican trained lawyer to get access in the states. they are building their data and they are looking at it. and in this year, where trump, a guy who has said i'm for single payer, i'm very pro choice when it comes to abortion, the economy does better under democrats, where bernie sanders is giving hillary clinton a run for her money, why should we say michael bloomberg can't get -- >> when you have billions of dollars, tough take it seriously. it's not like he has to raise the money and if he wants to, he can get that valid access. he can pay for it.
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>> does he appeal to those who feel if it's sanders that he's too far to the left and if it's trump he's too unknowable or cruz -- >> if bill clinton, i agree, the best political person on the stage that we've seen in our lifetime, michael bloomberg is the biggest political tease. he did this in 2007. he pulled our chain. he did it in 2011. he's doing it now. >> he will not spend his own money. >> i don't think it's a teaser. >> it's good judgment. >> it's good judgment. mayor bloomberg is not stupid. he didn't get to be the mayor of the largest city and great media firm by being dumb. if you do the math and i have and i'm sure his people have, his candidacy, let's say he gets ballot access, will elect a republican president. he's not ross perot. he would draw exclusively from hillary clinton or bernie
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sanders and thereby elect donald trump or ted cruz for president. if that's what he wants. this is why he keeps not running. he's not an ego maniac. >> he doesn't draw from the gop? >> no, he doesn't. his appeal, it's perfect for new york but not very good for national republicans. as john said, it's antigun, anti-coca-cola, pro wall street which is a problem on the democratic side. >> that's generally the truth. i wonder if the constellation is one of the candidates who is seen particularly as cruz, or trump, he gets the suburban republicans. either way you're right in the bottom line which is he can't win. >> well, we know by and large -- >> originally they started talking about this as something he might do if it was a sanders and a cruz or trump. his polls have shown a piece in "the wall street journal" last week saying, if it's clinton, trump or cruz he might get into
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the race. i don't believe he's going to get into the race for the reasons you said. >> you know what they say about texas, he could fall into the democratic states and mess a lot of -- he could take regional candidates. >> i'm still thinking about what you -- >> he could win a few northeastern states, though. it was not perot. mayor bloomberg has a much higher character and a fine man. >> run from it like a scalded dog? >> i want to thank everybody. we've been talking about it so now we're going to take you live to one of the first polling locations in new hampshire where the voting takes place a bit more than two hours from now. we'll be right back. want to get their hands on. if they could ever catch you.
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open the polls and close the polls as quickly as you wanted to. at the time it was a gimmick. they did it in the general election. they voted all for richard nixon, not for john f. kennedy. we talk about that home state advantage being next door. john f. kennedy did not get that in the general election back in 1960. back in 2012 when they held the primary up here for mitt romney and john huntsman, they actually tied, and if we go back to 2008, barack obama had one, the dixville notch vote. >> are you hearing which way dixville notch may go tonight or in the morning? >> interestingly enough, john kasich, who we've been talking about is coming on strong and has been really able to connect with new hampshire voters, he was the only candidate that has come up here and done a town hall. talking to voters up here, they tell me they kind of like his politics. i was talking to the kasich campaign today, and they told me as well that john kasich as well was calling these nine voters
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individually to try to get their support. so john kasich, it will be interesting if he were to come out of this. but as you said, there will be two other towns voting at midnight tonight. millsfield will be voting. there's 43 residents in millsfield -- rather, 27 residents. and in hart's location, 43 people. you're talking three towns that are less than 80 people that will be making history tonight, anderson. >> do we know how many people came out to the kasich town hall in dixville notch? >> yeah, so they're talking about 60. up here all these towns are incorporated and small. kasich had about 60 people come here for his town hall that he held back in january. not a bad town hall, certainly. far up north and 20 miles south of canada. i think he did okay. >> mark preston, we'll be watching. mark, thanks so much. amber walker has the 360 bulletin. amber? >> anderson, a senior counterterrorism source says before the november attack in paris, western security agencies
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well, it's come down to the snowy final hours, the first
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primary of the 2016 election. nine voters in dixville notch will vote in a picture perfect town on the new hampshire border. the boy scouts now are doing a mock vote in the town. the actual voting there doesn't begin until midnight. we'll be there to bring it to you live along with the results. our coverage of the new hampshire primary continues right now with "cnn tonight" and don lemon. it's really under way, everyone. take a look at this. you're looking live now. this is dixville notch, new hampshire, where in just two hours, midnight eastern time, residents of this tiny town will do what they do every four years. they're going to cast the first primary vote for the presidential race. it all gets started there and we'll bring you the results right here on cnn. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. thanks for watching. we're live a