tv Americas Choice 2016 The New Hampshire Primary CNN February 9, 2016 3:00pm-4:01pm PST
once again, we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> thanks for joining us. right now new hampshire voters are turning out in potentially record numbers. in just a couple hours we'll know for sure which democrat and which republican they want to see on the presidential ballot in november. >> and we're getting early hints already as these exit polling numbers begin to come in. the latest on that, the candidates' expectations and the final pitches, the mood of the polling places and much more as we check throughout the hour with our team of correspondents who are on the ground. the best team of political professionals, they are with us as well. a very, very full hour ahead starting with the republican front-runner, donald trump. let's go to jim acosta. he's joining us from trump headquarters in manchester. jim, how has mr. trump spent these final few hours as he waits for the primary results to roll in?
>> reporter: well, interesting, wolf, donald trump just returned from a couple of stops at polling places here in manchester where he talked to voters. trump said he's feeling good about tonight but obviously he's anxious to see these returns come in. trump was asked about his second place finish in iowa at one of these stops. the real estate tycoon pushed back on the notion that iowa was some kind of setback for him. he said he was a strong second place there. blamed ted cruz once again for dirty tricks on ben carson in that outcome. he was also asked about his final message to voters and trump right on cue said he's going to build that wall on the mexican border. i also talked very quickly with campaign manager corey lewandowski, who is a new hampshire native, and he echoed the candidate's comments saying at this point he just wants to watch these numbers roll in and after iowa, who can blame them. >> it's an hour or so until most of the new hampshire polls close, the rest close two hours from now. what's the mood like at trump headquarters? >> reporter: well, wolf, we've
talked to you from so many trump events at big arena, big auditorium events where they have 5,000 to 10,000 people crammed in. i can tell you earlier i walked inside this ballroom behind me. it is a fraction of the size of that, and right now there is a very large stream of trump supporters in line waiting to get in and it got so hectic at one point in just the last several minutes, wolf, there were people at the front door where the supporters were trying to go in pushing people back saying, hey, wait a minute, keep calm, we're trying to keep things under control here. there is such a huge demand to get into this election night party that they're pushing people away from the door at this point. nothing serious, nothing physical happening there, but obviously a lot of excited supporters who want to get in and may not be able to get in because it is fairly tight quarters for a trump campaign event. this is going to make for a very exciting and pretty spirited night, i think, wolf. >> i'm sure it will, jim acosta, thank you. coming off a very strong performance last week in iowa, the florida senator, marco
rubio, seemed to have a full head of steam. then after his debate performance over the weekend, critics, late-night comedians among others began saying it was more like a head full of malfunctioning circuit boards. the question now can he prove the critics were wrong with a strong showing once again. manu raju is with the rubio campaign. how confident is rubio's camp feeling as we head into the last couple of hours of voting? >> reporter: i can tell you they're confident they'll end up in the top tier of candidates but not as confident as they were coming out of iowa that they would have been perhaps number two right behind donald trump and it's longerly because of this relentless media coverage after that debate performance in which marco rubio repeated the same line repeatedly going after barack obama and his critics said, look, this is a candidate who will fall under the spotlight. that's something that has potentially tripped up marco rubio heading into the final
days. now, i can tell you that the rubio campaign no matter what happens here still feels pretty confident going into south carolina. they have spent a lot of money on tv. they expect to at least of a good showing tonight, be in the top tier so they can get enough delegates to say, look, we can still become the nominee because at the end of the day this is going to be a delegate race. this is going to be a long race and they have the resources and the organizations to go in for the long haul. so even if this is not a second place finish for him tonight and if he falls behind the governors, they believe that they can continue on for a long time to come. but make no mistake, if they were at number two right now after tonight, they could more easily make the case that they are the unity candidate, the candidate to bring the party together and that's the case they have been wanting to make to voters after the very strong showing in iowa. >> all right, manu, thanks very much. with turnout running high, let's head to joe johns at a polling place also in manchester. you've been talking to a lot of
the voters over there. what have they been telling you? >> reporter: 2,125 voters have come through this place in central manchester, now, they started out with about 3900 people who were registered in this location. that means more than half of the registered voters who are registered in this location have already been through and that does not count absent see ballots. it also does not count unregistered voters and that seems to be the story here, a large number of individuals flowing through this building all day long. we took some pictures of them, as a matter of fact. the unregistered voters coming this to register and then to vote, sometimes at times outnumbered the people already on the rolls. so watching that very carefully. we've asked some of these people why they came to vote. they talked
duty but they also talked about the candidates and that seemed to be the key, liking this candidate or another candidate very much or disliking a certain candidate. that is what has brought them out. so now the race is on until 7:00 eastern time when this polling place closes. people have to get in the door and in line before that hour. wolf, back to you. >> all right, joe, thanks very much. we've been getting new exit polling data throughout the program. the newest batch focusing in on the republican candidates and their personal qualities. once again let's bring in our political director, david chalian, to walk us through these latest numbers. >> we're doing a deep dive on what the mood was of the republican electorate showing up to the new hampshire polls today. we asked voters as they were leaving do you feel betrayed by the republican party. this is unbelievable. 50% of republican primary voters tell us they feel betrayed by their own party's politicians. 48% say no. then we also asked are you looking for somebody with experience in politics or
looking for an outsider. this splits about half and half, 47% want somebody experienced in politics. 48% want somebody outside the establishment. and what's key to note there is that in new hampshire, you know we've been talking about that establishment lane. that's the more crowded lane that has to split up that 47% who want experience. that has to split among a lot of candidates. the 48% that want an outsider, there are just probably a couple of candidates that fit that description. >> you're getting more information also about what the voters really want in these candidates. >> yeah, this is amazing. electability is nowhere. that is not of a high interest to republican primary voters in new hampshire. only 11% are looking for the candidate they think can win in november. what they do care about, somebody that shares their values, 34%. somebody who can bring about change, 30%. and 21% you see say they want somebody who can tell it like it is. >> i know you're going through more numbers and will be sharing them throughout this hour as well. david, thank you. anderson, clearly lots to
discuss. >> wow. >> there is a lot to discuss. >> let's talk to our republicans here, amanda, jeffrey, the distrust within the republican party of the establishment and of the traditional leaders. >> all summer long when we would read the internals of these polls, cnn polls, quinnipiac polls, there was one poll that showed something like 87% didn't want anybody, anybody who had anything to do with government. i mean this feeling has been there. it is constant. this has been being played out. this is played out on talk radio for the last two or three years. there is a steady drum beat of this and now it's finding expression. >> which goes against -- there was that criticism of president obama that he had been a community organizer, that he had only been in the senate for a short amount of time. we don't really hear that. i mean it's not reflected in what republicans say they're looking for from a fellow republican. >> but i think this is huge backlash from losing the white house two previous cycles. when they say only 11% care about electability, that's because republicans said you have to go with mccain because
he's electable, you have to go with romney because he's elect al and that didn't work. so people are rejecting that outright. 50% are saying they are betrayed by the gop and i think those are naturally going to be trump voters, cruz voters and maybe ben carson voters at the end of the day. >> also, i think she's right about losing the white house twice in a row but republicans also have been winning. they have a big house majority, they have a senate majority, 30 of the governorships. when you go to these republican rallies, republican voters say they're not getting anything for it. where's the tax cuts, where's the fight on our issues. so you have republicans who think even when we're winning, we don't get anything. so they look at candidates, if you have a title, you're a senator or a governor, especially governor in presidential politics used to be the great brand. forget it this year. mr. trump benefits because he doesn't have senator or governor before him, he's mr. or businessman, he's not a politician. >> remember the who won't be fooled again? this is it. these voters are saying we won't be fooled again. stop telling us that we have to
support somebody who you tell us is the only person who can win because we're telling you we don't -- we don't believe that anymore. and this, of course, benefits donald trump. by the way, i think it also benefits someone like bernie sanders. i mean they're the flip sides of the same coin, right? >> i do think there's a strong contrast between the republicans and democrats. hillary was valued heavily in iowa because he was the more electable candidate and it was really a driving force in iowa. but the other thing about this is the person who's going to emerge from this on the republican side is likely to be a one camp or the other. can that person bring people back together. rubio was saying that was his great strength. he may be fading now. there may be a lot people on the republican side who wind up at the end of this nomination process and say i didn't really get what i was looking for. >> but i do think when we're faced against hillary clinton, nothing will bring the republican party of all stripes together like facing hillary clinton and trying to take her
down in 2016. >> what struck me about this at first when i saw these numbers, only half feel betrayed by the party or only half want an outsider, but these are just the republicans if i listened correctly. i'm sure the undeclareds, it's a lot higher on that percentage, which means i think this is donald trump land. >> it also argues -- yesterday during the broadcast paul was talking about the idea of mike bloomberg entering the race and paul's argument was bloomberg takes away democratic voters from hillary clinton, but not necessarily from the republican side. he doesn't win over a lot of republicans. if you look at those poll numbers, that would tend to support what paul was saying. for folks who want somebody who tells it like it is, feels betrayed by the establishment, are they going to turn to michael bloomberg? >> not if they have a donald trump. why would they need mike bloomberg. >> no, i think a lot of people on the republican side and
moderates will say if it's cruz or trump, i might go for bloomberg. >> you think he might get moderate republicans. >> i think the whole purpose here is to take it into the house of representatives for a vote. he's trying to deny enough dealts -- he's talking about spending a billion dollars. name a state he he can win. he can't. can he win enough to deny a candidate the necessary delegates to get the nomination. if that happens, it happened in 1825, it goes to the house of representatives and the senate, one person, one vote. i think that's what bloomberg is up to. i think that's what he's seriously considering. >> the problem is, anderson, i know we're getting ahead of ourselves, but the problem, and i appreciate the fact that republicans are angry and they want to burn the house down and they want to destroy the establishme establishment, just go ahead. you want a few matches, i'll give you a box. but the problem is the general
election. in order to win you've got to win independents and go to the middle. so it might work right now when they are rallying to the cause, but in a general election, it's far different. >> we were talking about republicans. >> let's talk about your problems as well. >> we've got to take a quick break. thankfully we have eight more hours so plenty to talk about. we'll check in with another polling location and get more exit polling data and say what democrats are saying as we look at pictures of voters lining up. officials calling the turnout strong and steady saying it could pick up in these final hours and they believe set a new record. we're talking about final polling, final pitches, expectations, what constitutes doing well in this first primary of the 2016 campaign. back in a minute. this is how banks used to see me.
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it's the last leg of the final stretch in new hampshire. looking there at trump headquarters in manchester, supporters lining up outside, they're waiting to get inside. about 40 minutes from now most of the polls in the state will close. tomorrow morning life will go back to normal in the state, but tonight all eyes are on that state. kate bolduan is at a polling station not far from concord. what's happening where you are, kate? >> reporter: this is a very special place. this is chichester, new hampshire, also an old schoolhouse built in 1889 and this is the polling place. we are seeing voting still happening. polls have been open since 7:00 in the morning, they close at 7:00 tonight. they have seen a steady stream, a lot of people turning out, long lines especially starting just after 4:00. now, here is what we know anecdotally. historically, let me show you
this first, actually. also what makes this place special is this is a town that hand counts its ballots. after they vote, they bring it over here and they check off their names and put it in that box. pink are from republicans, blue are for democrats. historically i'm told that this is a place that most voters, vote in the republican primary. for the first time in 30 years evelyn tells me, the town clerk, that she had to print more democratic ballots and the number they just told me is that right now it looks like they will surpass the total turnout that they saw in 2008, which was a very big number, because they're telling me the numbers of ballots that they have handed out and it's already well past that number if that all comes through. no one knows until they unlock that box once the polls close. >> and once the polls close, kate, how long does it take for them to get the final results? >> the way they described it to me, that's when the real action happens. the chains will likely go away. they pull out the tables.
ten teams of two people will be at the tables to tally up the votes. they'll separate all the ballots, get the total count and start tallying the results. they hope that they can get it all counted and tallied and have results by 9:00. that is of course, they say, if everything goes as planned. we are talking about hand ballots and they'll be hand counting all of this and that starts right at 7:00. >> thanks very much for that, kate. anderson, back to you. there's so many things to watch in the hours ahead, it's obviously going to be interesting to see how closely the polling matches what happens for donald trump tonight because there's been so much talk about whether or not his voters would turn out, whether we're actually going to see the poll. >> through the winners of mass communication, i've been able to be in touch with them and they are feeling very good about the evening. i assume they may be seeing some things as they go along. >> did they learn lessons about a ground game from iowa?
>> i'm sure they did. i'm sure they did. this is donald trump, by which i mean somebody who learns as he goes here in terms of building projects and all of that kind of thing. he really does, i'm sure, want to know what happened and what were we doing wrong and how do we correct it and let's get on with it. >> even if he wanted to correct it, going from iowa to new hampshire, you have a week. you can't just all of a sudden buy a campaign in a box and put it in new hampshire. you can't get that infrastructure up and going. >> his campaign manager is from new hampshire. >> he didn't have that infrastructure built in place in iowa and you can't build it in new hampshire overnight. that said, i do think donald trump is attracting a lot of people to the process, not because they love donald trump but because he's a disrupter. he makes so many different things possible. if you're on the republican side, there's probably a candidate for whatever type of republican you want. there's so many people in the field. that's why i'm not surprised boy that poll earlier that showed that there's fewer undeclared on the republican side because no matter what kind of republican you are, there's somebody to like on that side of the ledger. >> has senator cruz focused a lot of his resources in new hampshire or he's looking
beyond? >> well, i do think he has a good network of supporters there, but he's got his win under the belt. he's going to be much more competitive in south carolina. >> he's going to take it forward no matter what. >> yes, s.e.c. tuesday. >> as of last month, senator cruz spent $580,000, donald trump $3.7 million, chris christie, $18.5 million, jeb bush $36.1 million. that tells you a lot. >> i was just going to say i think trump wins -- it looks like he's going to win tonight but wins in another way too, which is the republican party, at least the establishment, really hope that new hampshire was going to narrow the field down to one guy versus trump and cruz and it's not going to turn out that way. the more, i believe, the more candidates on the republican side, the better it is for donald trump. >> without a doubt. >> then he can go to south carolina and he can win again with just 30%. >> and worse, worse if the other candidates sort of said, okay, we have to get out and pick one, that would make it look even
worse. >> could i change the subject and go back to something. because this is beginning to smell a bit like that bernie sanders may do very, very well with all these independents, the number of people showing up. i want to go back to the hillary clinton campaign and paul's notion just play it cool and it's going to be fine. at the same time we have all these stories about bill and hillary, very dissatisfied, thinking about shaking up the staff. >> which she denies publicly. >> but news stories have come out since then. what's going on in the clinton campaign? >> i talked to john podesta and saw a lot of the clinton people. there's no question when you start getting involved in the primaries and caucuses, you begin to add new people. you've got to add people because the goals have changed, taking out bernie sanders, and of course they need to bring in more seasoned people who can actually go out there and work
the fields in a more diverse part of the country. so will they add people? i'm sure they will. >> but are they dissatisfied? that's the question. >> you know, i wouldn't characterize it as dissatisfied as much as, you know, you have donors, you have people around you that are frustrated. they're not involved, they're not making a decision. but here's something that we all should know, because i respect the kind of operation that robbie and marlin and others have put together. they're running a traditional democratic campaign where you have an operation, you have absentee ballots. absentee ballots are up 12%. they have reached more households than bernie sanders have reached. now, at the end of the day when you see a long line right now one hour before the polls close, new voters, you know, getting involved, that's a benefit to bernie sanders. >> but i reported yesterday that the clintons were upset that in
the summer they felt that they were slow off the mark to recognize the real threat that bernie sanders posed, that he wasn't just some fringe candidate out there, which, by the way, all of -- myself included, all of us probably thought at the beginning of this race that he wasn't some fringe candidate, they posed a serious threat to their campaign. looking back on it, it's always easier in hindsight, they're sort of why didn't in the summer of bernie, why didn't we do more to oppose him. >> my first campaign, presidential campaign was covering mike dukakis in 1998. the day it was over and he went from leading in atlanta to losing 40 states, he had the courage to say what everyone was saying, your staff let you down. he said you know the fish rots from the head and he took responsibility for his campaign. so to borrow a george w. bushism, so they misunderestimated their opponent again. they did that in 2007. they didn't go to south dakota
and these other places. delegates? we're never going to be in a delegate race with barack obama. he's a nice kid, but he's not ready. bernie sanders, they misunderestimated him. look, this is not all her fault. just ask jeb bush. we're in an environment where brands are not selling. people don't want the old brands, they want new brands. they want different. but you have to know that. but he's made himself new. but you have to know that environment and adapt to it as best you can. >> just quickly, i've got to say, look, i know secretary clinton has denied it, but glenn tlu thrush is a damn good reporter. number two, i don't know what it is but if i had all those resources and all that head start and only won by 0.25 in iowa and lose by double digits in new hampshire, i'd shake up my campaign for sure. >> which is why if you're a hillary clinton supporter, i mean i would want her to re-evaluate how things are
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decision day in new hampshire has turned into voting evening. less than 30 minutes left to vote at most polling stations throughout the state. the last few weeks have seen a frenzy of campaigning across the granite state. jeff zeleny shows us how hillary clinton and bernie sanders spent this high-stakes primary day. >> thanks for being here. >> reporter: a final push from hillary clinton. coffee -- >> hi, how are you today? >> reporter: handshakes and more selfies. luring supporters to the polls one by one in her democratic duel with bernie sanders. >> hi, how are you today? >> shake the hand of the president. >> well, with your help we'll make it happen. >> i hope so. >> reporter: voters lined up before dawn today, the first in the nation primary will set the tone for the rest of the campaign. a strong sanders' showing will guarantee a long race ahead. he stayed behind closed doors with advisers most of the day but made a brief stop at a
concord polling place. >> love you, bernie! >> reporter: the clinton campaign is running from behind in a state that famously made bill clinton the comeback kid in 1992. her aides are bracing for a strategic shakeup if things don't go well tonight. >> it would be malpractice not to say what worked, what can we do better, what can we do new and different we have to pull out. >> reporter: the campaign's chief bennenson said any top of a shakeup is overblown but it may be time for a fine tuning. >> we have to challenge our assumptions. challenge what you think you know. >> reporter: sanders' strength has stunned the clinton orbit. his wife, jane, told cnn's "new day" that any margin of victory would be welcome. >> we hope to win by at least one vote. >> reporter: sanders supporters fanned out across the state, his message from election eve fresh on their minds. >> the eyes of the country and a
lot of the world, by the way, will bow right here in new hampshire. >> reporter: the race hinges on new hampshire's independent voters, famous for staying undecided until the end. we met julie a week ago at a clinton rally, but she was thinking about voting republican. >> i don't even know whether i'm going to pick up a republican ballot when i arrive at the booth. >> reporter: then she asked clinton a question at the cnn presidential town hall. >> i'm the proud mother of five girls, two of my own, three stepdaughters. i would like to know what you would do to convince them to vote for you. >> i'm going to try to break the highest and hardest glass ceiling, i hope it splinters completely, and i hope for your daughters it opens doors that might not be open right now. >> jeff zeleny is joining us now. jeff, i understand you've been following that undecided voter at the end of your report, you've been following her all week, julie. has she finally made up her mind about who to vote for?
>> reporter: she did, wolf, and she voted for hillary clinton but it wasn't because she was won over in that town meeting. it was actually because of a knock on her door sunday evening from a clinton staffer who had come up here to new hampshire from brooklyn to talk to a lot of voters. he talked with her and she was thinking about -- supporting a republican, but he talked to her about the environment, social issues, so she decided at that point to support the clinton campaign. but this is what the clinton campaign is hoping for, a ground game. a strong ground game to narrow what they believe is a strong sanders' lead here. so it might be closer than we think tonight if all those ground efforts actually work. wolf. >> jeff zeleny, thanks very much. let's get more on the breaking news now. the exit polling information we're getting, we have new information right now about what voters said they were looking for in a democratic presidential candidate. our political director, david chalian, has been going through these numbers. what are they telling us? >> this is a really interesting finding about the democratic electorate because we asked voters as they left the polls
today if they wanted to continue barack obama's policies or move in a more liberal or less liberal direction. take a look at these numbers. 40% of the democratic primary electorate today in new hampshire wants the policies to be more liberal than president obama's policies. 41% wants to continue obama's policies. 14% less liberal. we also asked about candidate qualities. what are you looking for. here again, just like the republican side, electability not a factor. if you are a candidate making the case you're the one that can win in november, voters haven't that interested. only 13% is interested in electability. they're interested in an honest candidate, one who shares their value and one who has experience. the more liberal on obama's policies, that's even more than we saw in iowa. in iowa, 33% of the democrats wanted more liberal policies than obama's. here it's up to four in ten voters want more liberal policies than obama's.
arou around. >> anderson, back to you. >> i can't remember the exact numbers of those who said who were looking for honesty as number one but they overwhelmingly if memory serves me correct went for bernie sanders. >> and i think that it will likely be that way this time -- >> on the democratic voters. >> when you look at these two numbers, cares about people like me has been a real problem for hillary clinton. trust, honesty, also another problem for hillary clinton. and you see those numbers being very high among the democratic electorate in new hampshire, which also believes, by the way, that the democrats believe that barack obama is not liberal enough. you know, you see this pot being made right now, which is bernie sanders kind of. it's almost the perfect storm for him to a degree. >> it's 60% in the democratic are either cares or is honest
and only 40% is for electable or experience. that's not good news for her. it's good news for bernie sanders. >> the ideological shift also, look, the republicans are searching for their soul and where their party should plant its flag. you have to know where you want to go before you can pick who you want you to lead you there. look at the democrats. bill clinton became president of the united states challenging the liberals. we're too beholden to the you know -- unions. hillary clinton is running in a campaign in which 40% of the democrats say, great, we love barack obama, we've had him but we want to go more to the left and that's a fascinating dynamic. the democratic party is moving more left and she's competing with a challenger she underestimated who's going to keep tugging her left as we go on. >> also the generational divide within the democratic party. that woman jeff was following at our town hall, she was talking about her five daughters and stepdaughters, they were all voting for bernie sanders and
were trying to convince their mom to vote for sanders and that was part of her question. that's what we saw in iowa, younger females went overwhelmingly -- >> younger people are more liberal just in general. i think that's always been the case. >> but this generation is very split. >> generational divide and among young females -- hillary clinton is talking about breaking the glass ceiling. that's not a message that seems to be registering with this generation of young females. >> it seems first of all, i believe, that these numbers really look good for bernie sanders. but it reinforces two things we've talked about. one is, i hate to use the word "shakeup" but there's something about bernie's message that is resonating and her message it appears clearly is not. it gets back to something i said earlier. you cannot just excuse bernie's looks like a good showing in new hampshire because he happened to come from the state next door. he is speaking to middle class people and their values and he cares about them. he comes across as authentic and as working, and she's not meeting the mark.
>> the question is, though, come nevada, come south carolina and if it goes for hillary clinton, are people going to be arguing the exact opposite. >> exactly. >> everything on paper tells you advantage clinton when you move on, because she has historical relationships with the african-american community, she has historical relationships with the latino community, she did very well with those constituencies until obama became viable in 2008. then it shifted. but she has the relationships, no question. bernie sanders, just because he's from vermont, it's not his fault, he's never had to compete for those votes and he's trying very hard to catch up. the question is how big is the margin tonight. if bernie wins a convincing victory, senator sanders i should say, people will give him another look. even people who think i was for clinton, they'll stop and pause and he'll get another look. can he take advantage to that. we're talking about has clinton not adapted to this campaign? he'll have to adapt to. >> if she goes down by 15 or 20
points, she'll still be the strong front-runner for the democratic party. what this is doing is raising questions about her general electability and a campaign you wouldn't normally assume if she was running against a cruz or trump she would win decisively. that's increasingly in play now. >> but as somebody who's worked on more democratic campaigns than probably all of us combined because i'm old, but there's no question there's a very healthy, very strong, very vibrant liberal, progressive base within the democratic party. >> it's stronger than it was. >> and often that base is told to wait, hold on, help is on the way, and what you see in sanders campaign, especially the people who are managing the campaign and the message is that we want to move the future faster. >> now. >> right. but look, there's no buyer's remorse.
>> the longer that bernie sanders stays in the race, the better it is for us because in a general election we can say look, we got criticized for calling president obama a socialist, you have a real live one right there beating hillary clinton for the nomination. >> bring it on. >> that way nobody pays attention to what's going on in the republican party which, by the way, is having its own issues. >> yes, absolutely. >> a troubling new assessment of where isis will attempt an attack sometime this year and a new warning from top intelligence officials. more on that ahead. i think it landed last tuesday. one second it's there. then, woosh, it's gone. i swear i saw it swallow seven people. seven. i just wish one of those people could have been mrs. johnson. [dog bark] trust me, we're dealing with a higher intelligence here. ♪ the all-new audi q7 is here. ♪
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there's more breaking news tonight. top u.s. intelligence officials now say isis is likely to attempt direct attacks on the united states this year. they delivered that sobering prediction at a senate hearing today. our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto, is with me here. what are you hearing about this very candid assessment? >> the isis threat central to this campaign from ted cruz talking about carpet bombing to john kasich supporting ground troops in the fight. now, a blunt sobering assessment of the terror threat from the nation's top spies. they testified that isis will attempt to attack the u.s. homeland in 2016 and its global foot print is expanding in eight countries and counting and that there are more terrorist safe
havens today, quote, than any time in history, wolf. >> another intelligence official said isis will try to exploit the refugee crisis right now to score more terror attacks. >> that's right n his words he says isis is taking advantage of the torrent of migrants to insert operatives into the west. something we've reported at cnn that they are skilled at manufacturing passports. passports and identities so that they could get them into these countries. of course the primary concern for u.s. intelligence remains europe. that's where those big flows of tens of thousands of coming from syria and iraq, but i can tell you u.s. law enforcement and u.s. counterterror agencies are looking at the mexico border and canada border. >> jim sciutto, thanks very much. anderson, back to you. >> yeah, the threat from isis has been a big issue obviously in the presidential campaign. national security has been a major topic on the trail and at the debates. let's go back to our panel, particularly chairman rogers. how seriously do you take the
idea of a direct atetack agains the homeland? and that's beyond just people who are already here, correct? >> yeah. if you look at what happened last year, 60 disruptions. so that means that there were 60 times that the u.s. government interceded in an operation at some level being carried out in the united states. 60. huge. that doesn't include, obviously, san bernardino, that was a successful attack in the united states. so we knew that that was a brewing problem. to have both the dia, general stewart, and the dni, the national director both confirm today in as forceful terms as they have used about the possible attack tells me that there is operational phases that they're detecting out there. they call it chatter. so somebody overseas is talking about directly striking targets within the united states. that's beyond saying i hope somebody does something. >> the question is, then, does that mean isis personnel who are currently in the middle east or elsewhere overseas coming to the united states, getting on a
plane, carrying some sort of explosive device, or does it mean people, american citizens who are already here who are in contact with people who isis -- >> it probably means all of the above. so they will try to get operational cells to infiltrate the united states. what they forcefully talked about the fact isis is trying to infiltrate the migrant flows, and doing it with what's called good paper. meaning, they have mastered to both steal passports that give people unprecedented amount of freedom. >> once obviously they're in europe, it's a lot easier for people to travel to the united states. >> this is pretty forceful talk from two very senior intelligence officials you would not normally be as aggressive to say we believe they will attack in the united states. that's a pretty serious statement. that means they are likely to be something happening.
>> it brings into a release of what we learned after the attacks, most recent attacks in paris, known operatives who were already op the european watch list, were able to get from syria back into europe. even into london and then later paris. >> they've also bragged they can get into the united states. certainly they haven't shown any real indicator they can do that, but what worries you is that we've seen them do it in europe, they said they're going to do it, now they said they're going to do it here. >> let's go back to wolf. >> anderson, thank you. what to look for when the results start coming in from new hampshire. john king will break it down by the numbers when we come back.
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show me funny movies. watch discovery. record this. voila. remotes, come out from the cushions, you are back. the x1 voice remote is here. hundreds of rallies, millions of dollars, it all comes down to primary day in new hampshire. that day is coming to quite a finish. as it unfolds, we'll start seeing indicators of the outcome. john king is back to tell us about the numbers. what are the keys to watch? >> moments away from the first results. the map hasn't filled in yet, but it will soon. once the numbers start to come in, it will flip up the leaderboard. back in 2012, where to look on the republican side. most competitive republican races in new hampshire are settled down here. essentially from concord down. the largest city is manchester. any republican to win the state,
you want to run up the vote total here. mitt romney did it four years ago. it was key. this is where the most votes are. run it up as much as you can. manchester, bedford, kasich, christie and bush competing. to the massachusetts border, merrimack, for republicans, down here, south of manchester, along the massachusetts border, that's the rich area for votes. one thing i would point out for republicans, that peach color is rand paul with 23% of the vote. if ted cruz is to have a strong showing, second or third, you'll see a lot of these counties lighting up for him. if ted cruz doesn't get those votes, it could have a big impact on who wins. >> bernie sanders has been leading in the polls. if hillary clinton is to have a good performance here, closer to sanders, where should we look on the map? >> let's remember, in 2008 when she came back to win, 39%, 37%. most of the night president obama was ahead.
no john edwards this time. she needs to outperform where she was in 2008. just look at the map. bernie sanders, hanover, that's where dartmouth is, a college town. critical for bernie sanders. another college town is down in this part of the state. bernie sanders wants to run it up in keen. barack obama did as well. durham, the university of new hampshire. for hillary clinton, she was the dark blue last time. like the republicans, most of the votes were in manchester. look at the big margin here. this is where she came back late. blue collar, gritty, democratic workers. she needs to run it up against bernie sanders. just like the republicans, anderson, go down to the suburbs, south of manchester, down to nashua, the second largest city, this is where clinton did damage last time. beat barack obama among traditional democrats. she needs to match her map from 2008, but needs to do better, because in a two-way race, 39% won't be good enough.
>> any short-cut for clinton? >> let's do this. this is la conia. up in the center part of the state. 1.2% of the population. in laconia in 2008, 38, 37, 19. statewide results, pretty close. what about on the republican side? let's switch over to the republicans. laconia. 42%, 22%, 14%. laconia has a good track record of getting both races right. over here, right along the main border of rochester. not only the birthplace of larussia, it is the county that since 1972, that's 11 presidential cycles, 44 years, all but once rochester has picked both the democrat and republican winner. only in 1992 democratic race did rochester get it wrong. if you want to be lazy, watch
laconia and rochester. it's going to be a good night. >> not long from now, we could be seeing some results, whether the polling was accurate. this being new hampshire, whether we have surprises in store. big night either way. we'll be taking you through it all. the cnn primary night coverage continues. it's new hampshire's turn to shake up the presidential race. >> for some candidates, this may be the end of the line. >> in the northeast right now, the ground is shifting in the presidential campaign, with two insurgents counting on a comeback. >> now is not the time for establishment politics. >> i'm number one in new hampshire. will you please keep me there? >> who will rise and fall in round two. it's new hampshire's choice. tonight in the republican race -- >> go and vote! >> donald trump fighting for his first win after a bitter loss to ted cruz in iowa.