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all right. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." bernie sanders wins big. donald trump wins big. two decisive victories in new hampshire. trump has his first victory, doubling the closest challenger, but he does have some new names to go after. ohio governor john kasich posting a strong second. former florida governor jeb bush in a dead heat for third with ted cruz, the man who was a winner just a week ago in iowa. marco rubio coming in fifth after his poor debate performance over the weekend. the results all but guaranteeing that we, my friends, are in more a long hall to a nomination. >> on the democratic side bernie sanders defeating hillary clinton with a decisive victory. independents and young voters giving sanders that win. the devastating defeat for clinton setting the stage for what will happen next and that's a battle for minority voters in south carolina and nevada.
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this chaotic presidential race appears to be wide open for both parties. this morning we will keep with three of the republican candidates, jump, john kasich and jeb bush. let's begin our coverage with sara murray, she is live in charleston, south carolina. what a night, sara. >> reporter: what a night is right, alisyn, donald trump finally pulled off what many people thought he a could never do, he notched his first victory winning new hampshire handily. last night he thanked the voters there for delivering his first win. >> new hampshire, i want to thank you. we love you. we're going to be back a lot. we're not going to forget you. you started it. remember. you started it. >> reporter: now, trump may have had the biggest finish, but the surprise of the night was ohio governor john kasich. he came in second and to many people it seemed like it came totally out of nowhere, but i talked to john kasich on his campaign plane overnight on his flight here to south carolina and he said he wasn't surprised.
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>> no, i was very calm about t i sort of felt we were going to be in second place. i heard earlier that, you know -- that, you know, there was some word that we were going to be there, and then when i traveled around to the polling places it was pretty clear, you know, i was running into everybody and they were like, yeah, we really like you and all that stuff. so, you know, i'm gratified by it for sure. i think it's fantastic. but i wouldn't say i was shocked by it. >> reporter: now, kasich really worked it on the ground in new hampshire. he had 106 town halls, he spent 62 days there. the question is can he replicate that winning strategy in some of the upcoming states like south carolina and the others further down the field? one of the big disappointing finishes last night was definitely marco rubio. he showed up in new hampshire on big momentum after a strong finish in iowa, but after that stumble on the debate stage he was never really able to recover and it turns out that hurt him a
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lot more than his aids let on, so much so that he actually apologized for that slip up during his speech last night. >> our disappointment tonight is not on you, it's on me. it's on me. i did not -- i did not do well on saturday night so, listen to this, that will never happen again. >> reporter: now along with big wins comes a lot of heart break. when you look at ben carson, when you look at chris christie, when you look at carly fiorina they did not finish where they were hoping to last night. as the race moves here to south carolina they may have hard choices on their hands about whether they're going to stay in. >> sara, thanks so much for all of that background. over on the democratic side a landslide victory for bernie sanders over hillary clinton. sanders was expected to win last night's primary in new hampshire but not by this much. how will it change the next contest? jeff zeleny is live in
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manchester, new hampshire for us. how is it looking there? >>. >> reporter: good morning. it's looking very good for bernie sanders. he didn't win, he won big, 22 points, the clinton campaign was talk being a defeat but not one this big, not one this resounding. bernie sanders won among young voters, women voters, independent voters. the question is can he ex paneled this appeal as this campaign goes national, as it goes across the country to nevada first on the democratic side and then south carolina? bernie sanders said last night that he can, that he does have wired -- wider appeal. >> what happened here in new hampshire in terms of an enthusiastic and aroused electorate, people who came out in large numbers, that is what will happen all over this country. >> and that of course is the challenge for bernie sanders if he is able to replicate that all over the country. there are some reasons to believe that he can. he has had more fundraising
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success across the country nationally than any other presidential candidate, an average of $27 people have sent in. this is from people all across the country not just iowa and new hampshire of course here. now, on the clinton side i was at her party last night, there was sort of masters of victory party but beneath the mufs i can and underneath all the cheering it was not a ikt have i r the question is is this a bump in the road or the beginning of larger problems ahead. she has faced challenges before and she address that had head on. >> i know i have had a blessed life but i also know what it's like to stumble and fall and so many people across america know that feeling and we've learned it's not whether you get knocked down that matters, it's whether you get back up. >> and we know hillary clinton will get back up. we saw her in her last presidential campaign in 2008 when she was knocked down she
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was often better when they was going challenged. they realize they need to do a better job tapping into this message that is doing is well for bernie sanders but there's also an issue of her as a candidate. several voters were -- questioned her honesty, trustworthiness so we know the challenges going forward here. this is the beginning of a long democratic race, a fight over delegates that will move across the country starting today. >> jeff, thanks so much. let's bring back in cnn political reporter sara murray and joining us on set david gregory and john berman. great to have all of you here for this big day. >> what a night. >> what a night. there are so many headlines but the big headline is that donald trump won decisively and more than predicted. >> he denied expectations. we were all up in new hampshire and the whispers going into primary day were donald trump might win but it's going to be close, it's going to be 7, 8
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points, single digits. no way. look at that, 19 points which is at least as well as john mccain did in 2000 when he blew out george bush. it could be an even bigger more historic win than that across most demographic groups donald trump proved that he's here and he's not going anywhere. he is going to be a force for a long time. >> a couple key distinguishers for them also. one, they had the record on turn out last night, the gop side. >> just like iowa. >> absolutely. they were looking for trump. his camp was confident, they were confident, they were trying to set expectations as just how much we're going to win by, but i will tell you what, the number they were pointing to last night is look at conservatives, look at conservatives. he beats cruz and rubio, trump got 36% of conservative voters, combined cruz and rubio got 27. >> he won evangelicals. >> it is such an important point. he is the person fiction of this anti-establishment angry pop plus year.
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no better person fiction than donald trump. you have to give him his due. he came in strong second in iowa as a guy who is not a politician, cut into that evangelical vote and it was a thumping here in new hampshire. he is for real as john said, he is the clear funner. if anybody else were the front runner we would say that this guy almost -- >> measure the drapes in the oval office. >> right. >> they would be gold, by the way. >> gold drapes. he gets stronger as he goes south into south carolina and those march 1st primaries. here is the other piece of this, what he brings together, blue collar, down scale republican voters and democratic voters. he's got the conservative vote as you mentioned, but it's also not just anger at obama, it is anger at republicans. those republicans long that gop leaders in washington caved to obama and didn't get it done. he represents all that, you've got to give him his due on getting this done. >> sara, let's talk about another person who considers
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himself a big winner from last night. that's john kasich. he had been predicting he was going to do well in new hampshire, he was second to donald trump and what he said that was different than everybody else is he remained positive and didn't engage in the name calling. listen to what he said. >> we never went negative because we have more good to sell than to send our time being critical of somebody else. maybe just maybe we are turning the page on a dark part of american politics because tonight the light overcame the darkness of negative campaigning. and you made it happen. you made it happen. >> so, sara, what is the plan for him in south carolina? do we know what his ground game is like there? >> well, i think that it's going to be -- you know, it's going to be a tough path for john kasich here in south carolina. he wanted to show up with momentum and he is doing that.
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he flew here overnight, he's holding a couple of events here today but his team is realistic that this is not necessarily a state he will be able to win. he did sell well in new hampshire because he was able to play to those independent voters there. in south carolina you're talking to a more conservative audience. once you come in second place you are going to be the target of more attacks and that makes him much harder to run this positive campaign that john kasich has been talking about and he acknowledged that when i talked to him last night essentially saying, i like running a positive campaign, but we may have to be more responsive to the attacks that start coming in. you can certainly expect to see a number of those attacks coming from jeb bush. they've already forecast that. >> let's talk about the shift between new hampshire and everyone else, specifically for john kasich, because new hampshire is a what you do state, he did 100 town halls there. now he's moving to states where it's what you represent. that's going to be a tougher
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call for john kasich as he moves and tries to bite into trump's lead. it's not about turning a page, trump won with his tactics, he was close to 40% last night. where is the space? >> it's geographic in south carolina. i was talking to the campaign over the weekend and into monday. on they're going to south carolina where there are a lot of transplants, people who have moved to south carolina, hilton head, charleston, that's where they're starting. but it's not that simple. there is a bigger thing going on for john kasich and jeb bush and its courtesy of marco rubio and chris christie. they blew this race wide open saturday night, christie going after rubio, rubio perhaps wilting on the debate stage. that opened the door. >> 89%. >> we've got that poll. look at what people say. this is the exit poll from new hampshire in terms of whether the debate was a factor in their decision when he pulled the lever yesterday and 89% said yes it was. >> more than anything else.
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>> do you know what's damaging about that, the reason these debates matter so much and why so many people are watching when you get a caricature out of a debate it is hard to shake, just ask guys like mitt romney. what does marco rubio have right now, that he's robotic, scripted, inexperienced. he's got to shake that and he doesn't have a lot of time to do it. >> they had a three, two, one strategy. third in iowa, two in new hampshire, one in south carolina. >> it's so hard to get to one in south carolina in this big field. the other point about kasich i think is important. what a contrast to donald trump. i mean, donald trump we just talked about the person fiction of this anger, but here is kasich who wants to work with democrats, given the president his due on the iranian deal, accepted the medicaid expansion under the affordable care act in ohio. he talks about a prism of love and compassion in the race. different kind of message. >> we will see how that plays going forward. >> stick around if you would. coming up on "new day" we
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will hear from donald trump and john kasich on their big finishes. >> also we will have jeb bush live in the 7:00 hour so stay with us for all of that. >> so much so stick around for. bernie sanders a big with inn in new hampshire exposing vulnerabilities with hillary clinton's campaign. the question now can sanders woo the support of minority voters to keep clinton down? i think it landed last tuesday. one second it's there. then, woosh, it's gone. i swear i saw it swallow seven people. seven. i just wish one of those people could have been mrs. johnson. [dog bark] trust me, we're dealing with a higher intelligence here. ♪ the all-new audi q7 is here. ♪
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politics is often about perspective and indeed bernie sanders was expected to win, but not like this. he beat hillary clinton by more than 20 points. his message resonating with all types of democrats, especially strong among young voters, independents and women. so now what happens for the senator moving forward? let's bring in again david gregory and cnn's washington
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correspondent jeff zeleny, also let's bring in maeve reston. now, we talked about the gone, let's move to the other side of the ball. the number is big and impressive, but the why, david, why people went out for sanders probably a bigger impact. >> again, i think it's, again, the person fiction of an angry populist electorate that feels left out of the committee. the strength of bernie sanders is clarity of message. he gave a pretty long acceptance speech, i thought it was the "state of the union" at one point, but he is making a clear message. it is not about him. as cool as he is in his 74-year-old socialist self, he is basically saying, look, this is about you. you're carrying this. you're left out. the system is rigged against you and he's got a great pitch on this and he really brought that home. we were just saying he wins across the board. i mean, independents, he wins women.
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>> young. >> and he wins the young. there is very much a movement cool feel about sanders here that i think is really important. we can get to it as we look at some of the other elements of this. trustworthiness is so big and it's a real problem for hillary clinton. whether she is honest. look at that, 54 to 45 is clinton honest and trustworthy. >> within her own party. >> which is not only an e-mail issue, whether she's believable and credible, but democrats are also saying, look, this is a liability as we move forward into a general election. >> maeve, let's talk about the fascinating demographic of women and what it is. we've been trying to analyze this and parse it for the past week but here it is spelled out as we just saw in the numbers. more women turned out for sanders than for hillary. what is she doing wrong with women? >> well, she has tried to
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position herself once again as having this historic -- this historic candidacy, breaking the highest hardest glass ceiling as she said in 2008 but that argument isn't working for a lot of young women. the latest exit polls were something like bernie taking 70% of women under 30. a lot of the women we've talked to in the last couple of days who are supporting sanders are saying, yes, we think it would be great for there could be a first woman president but we don't feel obligated to vote on that basis for hillary clinton. i think that there were some tactical mistakes over the last week, you know, you had the gloria steinem interview with bill maher, also madeline albright getting up and introducing hillary clinton and saying there was a special place in hell for women who didn't help other women. that had a really negative effect on some of the women who are still deciding and many of them who were said they were supporting bernie sanders. so there is a very fascinating dynamic going on here. i know jeff has talked to a lot
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of the same people saying that as well. >> jeff, you've been coaching me to keep my eye on the states to come and how the demographics shift. what do we see in that because that is a last big open question with sanders biting into the strength of clinton or at least the perceived strength. how so? >> no doubt. as this race sort of goes national that is the challenge for bernie sanders, but i can tell you if you look at the people who are giving him money, if you look at the people at some of these big rallies across the country he is gaining more more than you might think. this is not an iowa or new hampshire candidacy alone. he is growing in movement. the question is will he be able to keep this up now that the scrutiny is going to be on him? he now is the front runner of this democratic race without a question. he has more delegates and the jute knee is going to be on him like never before. we haven't scrutinized his plans as much, his records as much. as this moves into democratic
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voters that is his challenge here. he is still not of the democratic party. he is still not a lifelong member of that. watch for hillary clinton to point that out again and again. the question is does it matter? i'm not sure that voters are that into political parties anymore, we're seeing that on both sides. i was at her, i guess -- >> victory. >> her victory party that was a defeat party last night and i was struck by how she was trying to, you know, show herself that she is not in the establishment. she said, you know, this whole campaign finance system the ruling was named after me, citizens united was because there was a conservative group going after me. so she is trying to claim some of that mantel of anger but it is a challenge for her. she will be bringing in new people and how she recovers from this is going to determine how the next month or two is going on. it is just the beginning, it's not the end, but this is a big bump in the road for hillary clinton. >> there is an aspect of this, again, i mean, you've got to give it to sanders.
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trump and sanders get their due, they ran great campaigns, they have really stepped up well and sanders almost wins iowa, wins decisively in new hampshire. look, hillary clinton had eight years to prepare for new hampshire, she won here before, it is clinton territory as we know going back to 1992. she had big establishment support. she made avoidable errors on the issue of gender with madeline albright and to jeff's point this is about a feeling. you know, the new liberal progressivism in the country is a feeling and the party in new hampshire was more democratic, it was more liberal. she didn't farewell. he's going to get a new look. >> david, mave. jeff, thank you so much. >> clinton and sanders face off tomorrow night in wisconsin. the pbs news hour democratic debate. guess what, it's going to be simulcast right here on cnn 9:00
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you're going to be so happy. >> this campaign is not dead. we're going on to south carolina. >> we decided we're going home to new jersey and take a deep breath. >> our disappointment tonight is not on you. it's on me. >> i did not do well on saturday night. that will never happen again. >> i am going to be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. remember that. >> we have september the message that we'll echo from wall street to washington. >> it's not whether you get knocked down that matters. it's whether you get back up. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day". bernie sanders and donald trump owned the night and new hampshire. trump scoring his first
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electoral win blowing away the republican field. new names emerging at the top of the field. ohio governor john kasich securing a strong second place finish. jeb bush in a dead heat for third with iowa winner ted cruz. just as important, we have not mentioned marco rubio dropping to fifth after his poor debate performance. chris christie, the man who eviscerated rubio in that debate, did not the get the bump he needed. carson, fiorina, after thoughts. >> and thanks to independents and younger voters sanders over clinton. we will hear from three of the republican candidates this morning. donald trump, john kasich, and jeb bush. let's begin your coverage with cnn sara murray live in charleston, south carolina. she flew there overnight with
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john kasich. tell us how the night went. >> it was just such an incredible shakeup in the gop field. one guy had to win. that was donald trump. he did it decisively. >> new hampshire i want to thank you. we love you. we're going to be back a lot. we're not going to forget you. you started it. >> donald trump exhilarated after crushing his gop rivals by more than 50,000 votes. >> we are going to make america so great again. maybe greater than ever before. >> boasting a mid-record republican pullout after a disappointing loss in iowa. >> i think the ground game was very strong. i'll tell you, we are focused on it after iowa. the ground game is not something i was extremely familiar with, but we learned quickly. >> the other winner, ohio governor john kasich. >> if you don't have a seat belt, go get one. >> kasich taking pride in running a positive campaign in a
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field of sharp elbows. >> tonight, the light overcame the darkness of negative campaign. >> meanwhile, the winner of the iowa caucuses, ted cruz in a dead heat for third with jeb bush. >> this campaign is not dead. we're going on to south carolina. >> as marco rubio suffered a bruising fifth place finish. >> i know many people are disappointed. i'm disappointed tonight. >> his rocky debate performance was likely to blame. >> our disappointment tonight is not on you. it's on me. it's on me. i did not do well on saturday night. so listen to this. that will never happen again. >> reporter: now, there were a of number of candidates pinning their hopes on new hampshire. ohio governor john kasich was one of them. you would think on his flight overnight here he would just be ecstatic, stunned by his
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victory. he told me he was not stunned he was prepared to come in second this whole time. now he's ready to move the race to south carolina. >> what was going through your head when you not the second place victory? were you expecting it? did it come as a surprise? >> i was very calm about it. i sort of felt we were going to be in second place. i heard earlier there was some word we were going to be there. when i traveled around to the polling places, it was pretty clear i was running into everybody. they were like, yeah, we really like you and all that stuff. i'm gratified by it for sure. it's fantastic. but i wouldn't say i was shocked by it. >> now, the bush campaign is already previewing the attacks they're going to use against you in south carolina, saying you're going to weaken the military. >> i'm going to weaken the military? i think they have spent $120
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million so far. some said $50 million in new hampshire. they ought to get this thing figured out at some point. they're spending so much money. i don't know who is advising them. i think that's kind of silly, i'm weakening the military. i don't even understand what you're talking about. >> do you think this is going to be the new normal? >> i think it is pretty normal. i think i'm fine. membership efforts have been validated. and then i thought, you know, how cool it would be to finish up high. and i wasn't spinning out of you. i really thought we would. it was like running for congress. i'm not really shocked that we're in second. but everything sort of evolved more than it was like we flipped the switch and then all of a sudden this is happening. i'm prepared for this. >> what do we think the bush campaign spent against me? >> 7 or 8. >> okay, 7 or 8. $4 million by another superpac.
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that was 12. rubio spent a million and a half. that's like $15 million of direct hits. and that doesn't even count the mail pieces. and we beat everybody, except trump, who never attacked me. so i know we just can't go through this like falling off a turnip truck saying everything is just going to be positive, because i'm going to have to respond to some of this stuff. but i'm starting to really thinking we're onto something. i'm thinking that a positive nature of a campaign can be very effective. i'm starting to think it could be true. >> oh, sara, stick with us. let's bring in former moderator of "meet the press" david gregory and time warner cable use errol louis.
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donald trump won decisively. in fact, he got more than two times the votes of his closest competitor john kasich. i just want to pull up, errol, he even beat the predictions. the poll of polls had him at 31%. he got 35%. tell us your thoughts on what happened in new hampshire. >> you compare what happened four years ago. there were a group of photos up on the republican side. those libertarian voters, jeb bush was going after them. everybody was sort of get to them. they went to trump. it was throughout the state. small towns, big towns, the cities, the suburbs, everything. so he has an appeal that goes beyond working class white, less educated people, which was sort
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of his base as far as we could tell demographically. it's much broader now. >> so we know the what. we know what the spread was. now you get to why. which really starts making an even more compelling case for the trump candidacy. the things that jumped out. i'm not happy with my party. i'm not happy with my country. and i don't like people who have been there. if you check one of those three boxes and you're looking at donald trump. >> he is populist angry campaign season that values the outsider. not just anti-establishment. but totally on the outside and unconventional. you have to give him his due. no other cycle somebody showed up as well as he did in iowa and wins in new hampshire decisively. he he goes south, where he has a lot of support. you hit it on the head i think, chris. remember the ads we talked about in new hampshire, make america great again. he says in his rallies,
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everything you believe in is under assault. he is sending a strong message, a dark message where he thinks america is. he's angry at obama. she's channeling that. there is so much anger in the republican for not standing up to obama more. he's channeling that. that gives him his strength. >> look at the split screen between what john kasich told you on the plane last night and donald trump who has not relied on a positive message. he's gone after whomever he has wanted to and held their flaws. and the fact that voters went for both of those two guys at the top is just interesting, right? what does that say moving forward? >> it is just another thing so indicative of how abnormal this election year is. when you look at new hampshire there are so many independents there that the kasich campaign went of. they really like john kasich's
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positive message. it might be tough to pull off in south carolina. those who are angry at their party, might do better. of course right now he is just riding high on the second place finish. >> we know the gop rule. you have to play to conservatives to get the nomination. then you have to move toward the middle. if the conservative vote is at a premium, they have their work cut out for them. trump in the only got the most. he got more than cruz and rubio combined. >> then you go down south. a guy like kasich has a harder time. alabama could be as much as 75%. virginia, texas, tennessee, others. but also the muddle in the middle as i talked to party officials. >> that's a t-shirt right there. >> make america great on the back and muddle in the middle on
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the front. this is what party officials were saying. we're ready for the long haul here. if you do the math, the establishment candidates is at 45%. you put all of those together. i have taken christie, fiorina and carson out of that. trump is at 35%. he does well in a big field. it is still a big field. we thought new hampshire might have whittled it down. that is why trump is in control. cruz, winner of iowa, very strong. they are sitting there waiting for him. they're in control of this race. >> let's talk about what you see. jeb did better than expectations. chris christie probably did worse. >> he did a lot worse. he said he's going to go to new jersey, take a deep breath. i think the end is near. there was a lot of chatter, he was acting on behalf of bush.
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>> before the debate that he was going to fall on his sword? >> take what he had. and he had a lot going in. he had the endorsement of the largest paper. he thought there would be some magic that would go his way. what he was doing in going after rubio was intended to help what's left of the establishment. you know, you talk about the muddle in the middle. some people are determined to defend the middle, whatever that might look like. chris christie looks like one of those. >> i don't think he is a defend the middle guys. he was going for his. but you end up in the same place. the other factor to look at is money. christie spent $18 million trying to get it done in new hampshire. that was a big bite out of his pocketbook.
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kasich, $12 million. cruz, $580,000. what will those numbers mean going forward? >> reporter: you go to south carolina and florida, super tuesday, you're competing in a lot of places at the same time. donald trump can do that with free media. put money into his campaign. but john kasich will have to rely on bringing in more donations. for chris christie, it's hard to make an argument that they should invest more in your campaign or jump on board now when the state you were pinning all your hopes on didn't stick out. >> coming up on "new day", you will hear from donald trump and john kasich on their big finishes. and jeb bush joins us live in the 7:00 hour. stick around for that, michaela. bernie sanders with a commanding victory over rival
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hillary clinton in new hampshire. how will both campaigns shift their strategy going into the next contest? well, senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny might have the answer. at least he's looking at it. live in new hampshire. >> reporter: hi, michaela. convincing across the board win for bernie sanders and a humbling defeat for the clinton campaign here in new hampshire. the question going forward, can bernie sanders take the show on the road and survive the front-runner scrutiny. a victory lap for bernie sanders. >> people of new hampshire sent a profound message to the political establishment, to the economic establishment and, by the way, to the media establishment. >> in a profound message to hillary clinton, who is no longer the undisputed democratic front-runner. a commander across the board win
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for sanders. among women, young voters and independents, riding the wave of discontentment of politics. the clinton campaign predicted a loss in new hampshire. they got one, even bigger than they feared. supporters masked their frustration with cheers. >> my goodness. i don't know what we would have done tonight if we had won. it's a "new day" in the democratic primary fight. the battle with clinton intensifies. >> they're throwing everything at me except the kitchen cinque. and i have the feeling that kitchen cinque is coming pretty soon. >> reporter: as the race moves to south carolina, it is an open question whether he can find the same appeal among black and hispanic voters. >> what began last week in iowa,
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what voters in new hampshire confirmed tonight is nothing short of the beginning of a political revolution. >> a humbling and frustrating moment for clinton. but she made clear she's been down that road before. >> i know i've had a blessed life. but i also know what it's like to stumble and fall. and we've learned it's not whether you get knocked town that matters, it's whether you get back up. >> now, as she reassesses her campaign today, tries to fine-tune the message, bernie sanders is meeting with al sharpton. he's beginning the path to try and expand his appeal to a more diverse electorate. that's the question, can bernie sanders go national, can he expand to the real base of the democratic party. if he can, this is a serious, serious challenge for hillary clinton. >> you are asking the right question, my friend. and there's a lot of doubt cast on conventional wisdom.
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bernie sanders's victory over hillary clinton, big, big, big, to paraphrase his doppelganger. does he have the momentum to catapult him forward. david gregory and errol louis and maeve reston. maeve, you're out in the cold. the way forward for sanders, the plus/minus. >> reporter: well, what we know is that the money is pouring in to sanders's campaign. this has been obviously true ever since his basic tie win
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with hillary clinton in iowa. and you do really feel the electricity in his crowds. the question now is whether or not he can ramp up the organization to compete with a sophisticated ground operation. sanders thinks he can do well in some of the caucus states like minnesota, maine, massachusetts. but it's not clear yet whether or not they have the organization to go forward all the way. but there's so much momentum behind his campaign right now. clinton is clearly trying to take a moment, reassess, and see what she can do to stop that going forward. >> errol, there is the ground game and infrastructure question. can he work with blacks and hispanics in south carolina? >> there's no reason to assume he cannot. he's in manhattan today. he will be meeting with reverend al sharpton. >> is that the right first step
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for people to see him be making? >> absolutely. sit not like al sharpton has a bunch of votes. he's not that kind of guy. but he is in 40 radio markets. he has his finger on the pulse. he symbolizes what is a larger question. whether it is clinton or sanders will have to deal with what happens to the black vote. in 2008, 2012, the black vote exceeded the nonhispanic white vote. 64%, 65% turnout. you're not going to see that again. this will be a pulling back after the historic candidacy of barack obama. someone will have to try and talk to folks. that's very much up for grabs. i don't think hillary clinton hosni reason to assume it will auto mat cake go away. >> that is a smart point. it is that level of enthusiasm -- first of all, all the checks are coming in.
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bernie sanders will have the money. he is liberal and people are loving and falling in love with his. a lot of people who support sanders want to give voice to that aspiration. so i think that piece of it is very important. and sanders gets a new look this morning, has an ability to talk about free college education, single payer. there are a lot of problems with his policies and hillary clinton will go to work and try to inspire more. >> you have feinstein, pelosi, the democratic leadership saying we have some problems with sanders. i don't know if that works with him or for him. sara murray, in terms of talking to this group of voters, what the problem may be with the message, income in equality, cost many structure needs to
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come down. why would that not resonate with minority voters? >> i think a lot of the policies will resonate with minority voters. the question is the clintons have deep, deep ties in these communities, going back to bill clinton's presidency, his runs, the policies that he put through. as david just mentioned, hillary clinton has made a very forceful case over the haft week that his policies are much too expensive, pie in the sky, things that could never be achieved through the legislative process. he is trying to make this argument that she is the proven change maker that has been able to carry out some degree of these policies for health care for children's health insurance, for example. so i think there is going to be a very big clash argument going forward here over whether any of this is achievable. and whether bernie sanders really has what it takes the way the clintons have in terms of their history, working with
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others in washington. he's been out there kind of on his own. that's part of his appeal. now he has to prove he is ready to slide into that commander in chief role. >> the grassroots party is more liberal. the establishment '90s is over. a lot of team clinton say, yeah, but remember bill's presidency. she gets along well with corporate america, goldman sachs, the military. a liberal base that is disappointed with barack obama. that is the energy right now that sanders has. >> errol, he also won with demographics that should have been going to her. moderate democrats. >> sure. >> women. is that a new hampshire specific thing? ? well, we'll see obviously. but these are three legs of the obama coalition. the moderates, millennials. she was supposed to get part of
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it. she got wiped out. the last is the black and latino voters. one thing to keep in mind, latino voters loved obama care. they voted in droves. we will see if they want single payer. in which case they might want to have a conversation with bernie sanders. >> and not winning iowa and new hampshire, bill clinton. >> thank you for the insight. clinton and sanders will face off tomorrow night in wisconsin. pbs news hour simulcast here on cnn, 9:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow night. >> exit polls in new hampshire have proven to shed a lot of light on what might come next in south carolina and nevada. how will will independent voters impact the fortunes of donald trump and bernie sanders after big wins in new hampshire? we'll discuss.
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candidates looking ahead to the next big contest in the race. we have the nevada caucus us and the south carolina primaries, obviously. what lessons can they take from the new hampshire exit polls. david gregory is at the magic wall to look at the road ahead. this is going to be an interesting look. you figured out what the exit polls are saying. people feel betrayed. republicans who feel betrayed by their party, the numbers for trump, significant. >> 36%. what's important is that the republican left doesn't just dislike obama. they dislike gop politicians who let them down. he channels that energy. that is why it is so significant. kasich, 15%. >> this really, really matters. on the democratic side. this is really fascinating. it is not just a little gap.
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it is gaping. it's gigantic. >> it's huge. this is why we want to put it in red. 91%. if the top policy is honest and trustworthy, clinton has the e-mails, a lot of baggage in her past. does she face more legal jeopardy? is she facing an electability problem? >> the key is can it get done. we move on to independents. we have talked about this a little bit. interesting to see how many people on the independent side are going for trump. 38%. >> 38% to 18%. you have a lot of independent voteers in new hampshire. we will see how indicative they are. it shows you they are doing well among conservatives, working class democrats, and independents. he is really starting to build a coalition here. that's why we have to say he is in control of this race and he is for real. sanders too.
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72% to 27%. democratic socialist is channeling all the liberals but getting independents in new hampshire as well. that will be a big test as he moves out of a state that's like new hampshire. >> i want to pop down to an interesting things. two-thirds of primary voters say they support a ban, temporary ban, we should point that out, on muslims entering the u.s. >> 66% of supporters supported trump. 44% believe that supporting him. cruz, 14%. look, this is a big part of his message. it is fear. it is national security. talk about doing a fabulous job against isis. that is a big part of the electorate. >> i thought i was able to tap this. >> hold on. >> there we go. you and i together, we're a mess. if you look at the ones that oppose the ban, it was kasich they supported. >> he is offering a much
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different view of the republican electorate. he challenges it in a different way. he thought obama should have a chance on the iran deal. very different views on fear and national security. >> you did good on the magic wall there. not bad. >> he is a talented man. and his size helps frame the entire situation is. after new hampshire, the shape of the republican race is changing he as well. a three-man race to a four-man race. more is better? it is for donald trump, and we'll tell you why. you've got to be prepared to sit at the edge of your seat and be ready to get up. there's no "deep couch sitting." definitely not good for my back. this is the part i really don't like right here. (doorbell) what's that? a package! it's a swiffer wetjet. it almost feels like it's moving itself. this is kind of fun. that comes from my floor? eww! this is deep couch sitting. [jerry bell iii] deep couch sitting!
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proud donald trump supporter this morning pictured with the capitol under construction behind him metaphoricalyy saying trump will change things. and former george w. bush staffer margaret hoover. the dialogue must ship until you say it is trump, period. it is not just his spread was gigantic. it is i decided in the last 72 hours. who did i go to? i'm a conservative. how much do i want him more than the next two guys, rubio and cruz combined. i don't like the gop, i'm trump. i don't like outsiders, i'm trump. >> that's right. >> where is the space? >> what do you mean, where is the space? light deciders split between kasich and trump. so trump -- by the way, late
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deciders did not split in iowa. it is better set for donald trump. essentially split. there is a margin of error there. what do you mean where is the margin of space. this is donald trump's race going into south carolina, going into frankly the rest of the gop primary. donald trump is playing on what is a very dominant strain in american politics that starts with andrew jackson is. pat buchanan won in new hampshire. it's the same strain in american politics. it is jacksonian pop limp with this screen know phobic nationalism. that is the strain along with this disgust for insiders. he's the outsider who isn't beholden to anyone. that is the inertia that is carrying him through the rest of the race. >> do you believe it is just inertia, mr. lord? what do you think is fueling the rise of trump? >> good morning there,
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christopher. well, i do think he has touched a nerve here with republicans who are very upset with the establishment. i would disagree with margaret. this has nothing to do with xenophobia. he wants to fix the problem. that's all it is. there's nothing xenophobic about that. >> it's just -- that's hard though, jeffrey, when you say you've got to build a wall. the mexicans are rapists, keep all the muslims out. >> margaret -- >> it is xenophobic rhetoric. the real cases that he has hit a strain with the number one immigration issue, economics and immigration.
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those are the two issues that are motivating people to the polls and those -- people are concerned about those issues are voting for trump over everyone else in the field. >> he is talking about illegal immigration, not mexicans. there is a consider considerable difference. when you have illegals crossing the line and killing a 17-year-old kid, black kid in los angeles, who a star student, a star scholar, a star athlete, on his way to stanford or rutgers and he's shot to death by an illegal immigrant, that is wrong. >> nobody is going to argue that, jeffrey lord. the issue is do you build a wall? do you take a candidate seriously? do the words mean anything? jeb bush has a plan for this too. marco rubio has a plan for this too. but donald trump said get them out, build a beautiful wall, create a bigging beautiful door
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and have them come back through. it is unparalleled in american history. >> it's not rhetoric that's unparalleled to insist that we have a border. >> your right. every other republican candidate insists we should have a border too. >> but they don't seem to do anything. this is the problem with the republican establishment. they talk the game. but when it comes time to do something they don't do it. and that's why people are so angry. >> that is the state of play. jeffrey, let's end on this proposition. margaret, do you think other people have to get out of the race now to allow trump to galvanize the party and move forward? >> no. he is doing it anyway. he needs to have a credible challenger in the gop. >> is there one? >> ted cruz is mounting a strong opposition against donald trump. he doesn't play to more center right leaning. there is no sense that it is going to whittle any time soon
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going into south carolina and the southern states. forget about it. that is why this is going to be a very long. >> jeffrey, thank you very much. congratulations to you this morning. >> thank you. >> thank you, margaret. we will hear from them on their big finishes. jeb bush is live at 7:00. bernie sanders riding the wave of voter frustration. he won among liberal and moderate democrats. does hillary clinton have a messaging problem? we'll take a look at that. it wasn't too long ago it would take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome. now, we can do a hundred per day. with the microsoft cloud we don't have to build server rooms. we have instant scale. the microsoft cloud is helping us to re-build and re-interpret our business. this cloud helps transform business. this is the microsoft cloud.
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kind of like this look. i'm calling it the "name your price tool" phase. whatever. we'll get back to our coverage of the new hampshire primary in a moment. here's a look at the other headlines. a major roadblock to combat climate change. to put the clean power plan on hold. that will shift power plants to renewable injury. some insist this would devastate their economies. the white house says it is confident the plan will prevail. city leaders in ferguson,
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missouri under fire for attempting to revise a negotiated agreement with the justice department to reform its police and court practices. ferguson city council sending the agreement back with seven proposed amendments. the justice department calls it an unfortunate outcome. doj officials threatening to take all necessary legal action against ferguson to implement constitutional policing. michigan's governor and flint mayor making their case for funding to deal with the toxic water crisis. flint mayor karen weaver expected to call for $55 million to remove lead pipes. she's asking governor rick snyder to partner with her to get the funds. they will ask the state legislature for an additional $195,000. governor snyder declined the committee's invitation to testify. >> bernie sanders is huge in new hampshire. he faces a tougher challenge in
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bernie sanders beat hillary clinton with unexpected voting pwhrobgs. he won with voters who consider
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themselves moderate. so is there a problem with messaging to moderates. great to have pwoeugt of you here. the exit polls do we veal a problem. moderates went for bernie sanders. is she having a problem with defining herself. is she a moderate? is she a progressive? voters seem to have a hard time figuring it out. >> i think many things that came out of iowa will not be pervasive throughout the rest of the campaign. >> why not? >> we are about to see a huge shift. i spoke at a church this past saturday in south carolina. you have a picture of jesus, martin luther king, and barack obama.
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this is what this election will boil down to for the democrats in south carolina. who do they feel is the best position to build on that? i'm not certain she has a problem. >> the last time i checked there are women. and bernie sanders, here's one of the exit polls. sanders got 55% of the women's vote. she got 44%. so, sally, i know you're not in hillary clinton's camp. if you were, what do you tell her to win over women? >> i'm more in bernie's camp. either way i'm in the democratic camp and they all look better than the trumpublicans. national polling bernie sanders men's white women. the whole minority voters, we have to unpack and undo using
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that phrase because it is no longer a minority. especially looking at well, white women, and people of color, voters of color. put them together. that's a winning majority. this constant political fixation on just white male voters is incorrect. >> her tide is coming. when she gets to south carolina with african-american voters. >> no question. if you just look at the polling numbers now, she's much stronger. frankly i think we should be looking at south carolina and nevada as far more politically important than the disproportionately white states like iowa and new hampshire. don't discount bernie's momentum. it's not just about hillary clinton. it's about a political party that for too long has taken black voters for granted. >> i agree whole hearted. this will boil down to especially south carolina my mom and her friends. this is about african-american women, minority women, who participate in very high numbers. bernie sanders does have a
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message. they are listen to go bernie. you can't take anything for granted. >> speaking of moms, hillary clinton is about to start talking with trayvon martin's mom. there is another issue, how young people feel about her. young people went for bernie sanders. and hillary clinton talked about what she needs to do to win them over. listen to this and what she said last night. >> i know i have some work to do particularly with young people. but i will repeat again what i have said this week. even if they are not supporting me now, i support them. >> okay. so, sally, is this -- here you go with 18 to 29-year-olds. is it bacari's mom and friends
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or a wave of young people? >> no question it is going to bernie sanders. i don't think it's just bernie sanders and his message. sit a repudiation of this sepb terrorist compromise, too cozy with wall street, too hawk issue of the wing that hillary clinton represents. young voters matter more or less in certain places, but they always matter when it comes to being the boots on the ground in a campaign. it does matter. and she's not resonating. part of it is she is trying to say, no, there is no difference between bernie and i. that's just not true. i think your question about changing up the message is just be yourself, hillary. you have authenticity and trust issues. stop trying to be whoever the polling tells you you should be. >> we are in a different party. i think barack obama has ushered in a new more diverse party. so we'll see.
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we are about to test bernie sanders's message. we are about to see if this is really true. there weren't any historically black colleges that voted in iowa or new hampshire. so we are about to flip the switch on this. when we get to south carolina, nevada, and the sec states, i think it's a new ball game. but bernie sanders is for real. let's not throw him under the rug. he is for real. >> i think we proved that once and for all last night. we are following a lot of primary news this morning. so let's get right to it. nothing short of the beginning of a political revolution. >> if you don't have a seat belt, go get one. >> we are going to make america great again. >> the real winner is the conservative grassroots. >> giving me the chance now to go to south carolina where we are going to do really well.
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>> i did not do well on saturday night. so listen to this, that will never happen again. >> record-breaking voter turnout. >> he wants to give away our country, folks. we're not going to let it happen. >> i know i have some work to do, particularly with young people. >> hillary you just need this month and head to south carolina because it ain't working here. >> we are going now to south carolina. we're going to win in south carolina. i love you all. thank you very much is. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day". more than doubling his closest competitor as you can see on
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your screen. an intense ground game paying off as well for ohio governor john case cannic whose second place puts him solidly in contention. marco rubio proving costly. a disappointing fifth place finish for him. and other candidates once near the top of the polls now very much in danger of going home for good. here is some of what trump said after taking home top prize last night. >> i wanted to con garage late the other candidates, okay. now that i got that over with, i am going to be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. remember that. >> if we had 5% unemployment, do you really think we would have these gatherings? forgetting about security, forgetting about isis. which, by the way, we're going knock the hell out of isis.
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we're going to win. you are going to be so happy. we are going to make america so great again. maybe graeter than ever before. >> all right. so that's on the gop side. all about trump. on the democratic side, bernie sanders with a convincing win over hillary clinton. but can he win over voters to keep this from being the high point of his career. we will hear from donald trump, john kasich and jeb bush. we have complete coverage the only way cnn can. let's start with sara murray. you went there with john kasich. that sent a big message. what was it like on that plane? >> well, chris, john was excited. but he was not one of the people who was stunned that he came in second place. he said he's actually been feeling the momentum for days.
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it might be tougher to keep up in south carolina. >> what was going through your head when you got the second place victory tonight? were you expecting it? was it a surprise? >> i was very calm about it. i sort of felt we were going to be in second place. i heard earlier there was some word we were going to be there. when i traveled around to the polling places, it was pretty clear i was running into everybody. they were like, yeah, we really like you and all that stuff. i'm gratified by it for sure. it's fantastic. but i wouldn't say i was shocked by it. >> now, the bush campaign is already previewing the attacks they're going to use against you in south carolina, saying you're going to weaken the military. >> i'm going to weaken the military? >> are you prepared for the incoming fire that's going to come your way now that you have landed a second place finish? >> well, i think they spent about $120 million so far. and i don't know.
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some said $50 million in new hampshire. they ought to get this thing figured out at some point. they're spending so much money. i don't know who is advising them. i think that's kind of silly, i'm weakening the military. i don't even understand what you're talking about. >> are you ready for this to be the new normal? >> i think it is pretty normal. i think i'm fine. my efforts have been validated. and then i thought, you know, how cool it would be to finish up high. and i wasn't spinning out of you. i really thought we would. it was like running for congress. i'm not really shocked that we're in second. but everything sort of evolved more than it was like we flipped the switch and then all of a sudden this is happening. i'm prepared for this. >> what do we think the bush campaign spent against me? >> 7 or 8. >> okay, 7 or 8. $4 million by another superpac.
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that was 12. rubio spent a million and a half. that's like $15 million of direct hits. and that doesn't even count the mail pieces. and we beat everybody, except trump, who never attacked me. so i know we just can't go through this like falling off a turnip truck saying everything is just going to be positive, because i'm going to have to respond to some of this stuff. but i'm starting to really thinking we're onto something. i'm thinking that a positive nature of a campaign can be very effective. i'm starting to think it could be true. stkpwhrr the kasich campaign is scrambling to make magic twice. they dispatched to eight or nine upcoming states. they are looking forward to ohio, the governor's home state.
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and they hope they will snatch up enough delegates to stay competitive. >> sara, game on. how will both campaigns change their playbooks heading into the next contest? is jeff zeleny. >> the 22-point win is the highest and biggest in the history of this new hampshire primary. now, if you're bernie sanders waking up this morning, wow, can i actually win. he was running as more of a movement candidate. now, this is real. his challenge, though, can he expand his base, his popularity. 6th addressed that last night. >> what happened here in new hampshire in terms of an enthusiastic and aroused electorate, people who came out
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in large numbers, that is what will happen all over this country. >> of course that's his challenge. that's what he hopes will happen. the clinton campaign is trying to reboot their message. this is not the end of the road by any means. it is a bump in the road, no doubt about it. he addressed that head on. she has been in the situation before. listen to what she said. >> i know i've had a blessed life. but i also know what it is like to symptom pell and fall. it's not whether you get knocked down that matters. it's whether you get back up. >> one of her top advisers said early this morning this is a critical moment for her candidacy. how she responds to this, rebounds from this is going to
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determine how she will go forward and if this electorate will respond to her. that's her biggest challenge. four of the democratic parties base has not been with her. she has many advantages as the race spreads to nevada, south carolina, and all the states down the line. chris and alisyn. >> jeff, let's talk about what the perceived advantages are. to break it down for us, former moderator of "meet the press" david gregory. we have cnn's senior political analyst, former presidential adviser to nixon, ford, reagan, clinton, david gurgin. and cnn national political reporter maeve reston. all right. so let's start off with what we understand on the democratic side moving forward. there's a question mark, david gregory, that hillary clinton, with african-americans, with hispanics, latinos, that is a perceived strength. and bernie is a big question
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mark. why? >> there is history there, voting history there. an association with the clintons. we see a lot of polling in those states. it gives her a huge advantage. this is where history helps in those communities. of course she is drafting off president clinton as well. bernie sanders is not well-known beyond his political power base. and in the minority communities. but the strength of this showing for bernie sanders is iowa and now new hampshire, the movement, the political movement and energy he is creating channeling that disappointment from obama in a real clear liberal message gives him a new look. there is an opportunity for him to grow and with a message that can resonate with minority voters that gets him the new look. i don't think she can rest on her laurels here. but he will go out there and go for the vote. >> is clinton having a hard time defining herself to voters.
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one of her strengths used to be she was a moderate. now she has to disown that and call herself a progressive. but bernie already had that lane. what do you see as the problem for her? >> the biggest problem right now is with young people. sit stun to go me that a clinton has not done as well as her husband has or she has in the past. to use the under 30 vote by 70 points or so, that is overwhelming. yes, she goes into the south with a strong minority support. but can she count on the enthusiasm? can she count on people coming out from the groups. i do think there are pockets where sanders can win in the communities. she comes out still as the favorite to win the nomination, possibly a favorite to win the presidency. she comes out wounded,
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vulnerable. >> and there is an energy right now. where is all the energy? it's on the republican side. that's where it was in i barack obama, because of his message, he could turn out the vote the way we have not seen before. maeve, what we're hearing out of the clinton side of the equation is, look, we love what bernie says about income in equality. this is about preserving what we already have and that sanders is a threat to them. whether it's the aca, whether it's gun legislation. is that going to be enough to shift energy. ? i think it could be.
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hillary clinton is never better than when she is down and in that underdog role. i don't think we should count anything out right now. she has been making a very forceful case she is the proven change maker. she can go forward in a way bernie sand eers kaepbtd. they know the message has been muddled. i think we really will see them sharp issen their message here. she will go out and fight hard and go to nevada, south carolina and the states beyond where she does have a natural con is constituency. places she has done well in the past. >> david, let's talk about donald trump. he won huge.
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>> huge. >> as he would say. he beat expectations and the poll predictions. >> absolutely. >> poll predictions had him at 31%. he doubled his closest competitor. how does this change the field? >> he had that aura of invincibility. maybe ted cruz can. he is ahead of ted cruz in a number of states they're going into in the house. john kasich needs money and show he has the chops to win. he wants to get on to michigan, on to ohio. >> that's a long way away. >> he he has to find some states on the sec primary, for example, where he needs to do well in south carolina. he's not going to win south carolina. do well. he's going to win some of the states. and he has to get --
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>> trump is carrying in the momentum saying all aspects of the party as represented in new hampshire went for him. moderate or liberal voters went for him. conservative voters most notably went for him that bettered the numbers of cruz and rubio. >> right. >> so he is going in there with that. what other dynamics could come up to play that might make it challenging for him. >> we talked about the fact that he is the personification of the populist, angry disaffected voter who feels left out. i remember covering the bush campaign in 2004. one of the things they did against kerry so that was effective, created new voters. if he could kick up his ground game, he could create more of that energy. but the south also has
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evangelicals which helps ted cruz. we think about alabama, tennessee, texas. sometimes you get as much as 75% of the republican electorate is evangelical christian. ted cruz is waiting for this. we should also be reminded, donald trump, remember the ad, everything you believe in is under assault. >> right. >> he is speaking to evangelical voters among others. he had resonance with that in iowa and the south. >> i have never seen such complete and total rejection of political elites in america in a key primary. >> marco rubio came in fifth, disappointing finish. it is clear what happened saturday night at the debate did affect him in a bad way. he took responsibility for that aft night. he talked about it. listen to this. >> our disappointment tonight is
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not on you. it's on me. it's on me. i did not do well on saturday night. so listen to this. that will never happen again. >> maeve, the crowd loved that message. what does this mean moving forward? >> he has a real uphill climb from here. it seemed for a moment as though the establishment was rallying against him. it was really important to remember that donald trump and ted cruz may be splitting up a lot of the evangelical vote. they do see an opportunity to sweep in the same way john mccain did, pick up votes in the low country, for example.
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there is a tactical strategy going forward where they think there is still a chance to come in there and give trump a run for his money. i will say kasich, the most important thing to remember, this electorate is such an anomaly because of the undeclared voters. he was running a general election campaign. that is not going to be the case in some of the states going forward. he will probably not do as well as he did last night. >> maeve reston, thank you. >> great job, guys. thank you. michaela. >> so what does donald trump have to say this morning. cnn spoke with the donald after his new hampshire victory. also, jeb bush has reason to celebrate. his campaign getting a much needed bounce. he will visit us ahead here on "new day".
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more than 50,000 votes. and those votes came across a broad range of demographic votes. >> i'm joined on the phone right now by the winner of the new hampshire republican primary, donald j. trump. congratulations on your victory. did you ever think this was going to happen? >> well, it's been a really wonderful evening, jake. and i so happy. i just looked at your report and it was right across the board with men, women, young, old, with everything. to win every single category was perhaps the greatest honor of all. >> and it looks like the voting results are still coming in. since george w. bush lost to john mccain 16 years ago. how does it teal?
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>> well, i didn't know that number. that is a long time. that's a great feeling to know it's been that big of a victory. that's a lot of years. it is just an honor to have won. i told you if it win by one vote, i'll be happy. but this makes me even happier. i will say that, jake. >> it is by a bit more than one vote. you will see voters were looking for an outsider. they were mad at the republican establishment. what do you think in particular about your message resonated with the voters of new hampshire? >> well, i think it started with the fact that we were just ripped off by he everyone. china, japan, mexico. and i think it really ended up being very much voter insecurity and other things having to do with security. you have the migration and isis. and all of a sudden it morphed into that. and i think pause of the fact that i had done so well with the
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border and the wall which will be built, i think what happened is people started saying i will be the best with respect to isis and the other problems we have. the fact that i'm going to take care of the vets better than anybody else will be able to. it all sort of came down to that. but it seems like a victory in every cat tpwoer. the easiest thing for me will be trade and jobs. that's really what i do. >> in terms of how you won tpafpl nasp, did your campaign pay more attention to the ground game, to getting your voters to the polls, to making sure they were motivated as opposed to the approach of being big rallies? >> i learned quickly. otherwise, the voters wouldn't like me so much.
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i learned very well. we have a very good ground game. the people of a new hampshire. we were just there. i had 12,000 people. a wonderful, wonderful, arena. to be honest with you, the ground game was very important to me. and i think we really learned about ground games very quickly. >> as you may know, south carolina, they like their politics a little bit more rough and tumble. are you ready for what may come your way, the negative attacks, and perhaps even dirty tricks that might happen in the palmetto state. >> well, we have already had dirty tricks in this campaign. i'm ready for whatever they want to throw at me. that's fine. we have had a lot of dirty tricks in this campaign i want to congratulate everyone that's won. they are very capable people. it was an honor to run against them. tomorrow i'll be around 1:00 or 12:00 tomorrow i'll be in south carolina getting ready.
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and that should be interesting. i love south carolina. i've been there many, many times. the people are tremendous people. and i think i can do very well there. >> a big competition obviously for second place and third place in new hampshire right now. who do you think is your competition going forward? is it ted cruz? do you see rejuvenation for jeb bush and john kasich? who are you focused on? >> i see them all, jake. i really see them all. they're all good competitors and talented people. you know, right now it looks like kasich is a little bit of a lead. i'm just looking at your chart. yep. it's getting a little bit closer. it's going to be a close race i think. you sort of predicted that, cnn and the whole group. it's going to be close. >> you've been campaigning with your wife, boys, don and eric.
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this is a big, big night in trump family history. >> well, they are very proud. milania is standing with me now. don, eric, ivanka. it has been a terrific job. in fact, he just walked in now. i will comment on his ground game, which was excellent. it's been an amazing period of time. we're all thrilled. we want to make america great again. we're going to make america great again. >> congratulations on a very, very strong win in new hampshire. best of luck to you. we will see you on the campaign trail, mr. trump. >> thank you very much. you take care of yourself. >> jake tapper with donald trump. meanwhile, can clinton fend off a rising challenge from bernie sanders? we're going to ask philadelphia's former mayor and clinton surrogate, michael matter. i've smoked a lot
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african-american vote, latino voters. is hillary clinton presumed to have a strong, strong basis there. will she dominate because of that. michael nutter, supporter of hillary clinton. good to have you with us. >>. how do you explain what happened to hillary clinton last night? >> well, i think we have known for a long time that senator sanders, a, of course next door state senator has had a lead in new hampshire for some time. let me put this straightforward. he is to be congratulated and commended for his win. it was significant in new hampshire and at the same time senator clinton never gave up, kept fighting for every vote. we move on to nevada, to south
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carolina. so i look at this. we just had the super bowl the other day. in that context, this is the first part of the first quarter. we'll get through nevada and south carolina. that pretty much rounds that out. and then you go into a significant second quarter in this election cycle, which is the month of march. the end of march, more than 50% of the delegates will have been accumulated by the various candidates. so there is a race within the race, which is about the citizens coming out either in caucusing or in voting in primaries. and then there is the delegate award process where senator clinton, secretary clinton is doing well in the context of this race. >> but you have the presumption and the proof of performance, right. one story before iowa. one after it. one before new hampshire, one after it. when we look at senator
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sanders's message, labels aside. he has democratic socialists hanging around his neck in party and out. when you look at his actual message, he seems more is similar to the giants of your party's past. we must help the middle class in an extreme way. we must energize it together. why wouldn't that sell just as well with african-american voters and latinos. they need this help, who are looking for a shifting of burden. >> well, the message is on point, no question about it. both of the two democratic candidates have somewhat similar messages in talking about how do we move people up into the middle class. how do we take on many challenges across the country. they have different people, different styles, different deliveries. and then the issue of who has built up relationships over the last 20, 30 plus years with african-americans, with latinos,
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with other minority groups all across the united states of america. in that context, based on what most of us know in terms of history, certainly hillary clinton has established that relationship over a long, long period of time. the polls have been all over the place for now, the first two states. and polling will continue. it may give some indication of where things are going. but elections, as you well know, chris, they happen on election day. a great ground game. but also paying attention to the delegate count as well. messages, very, very important. and, again, have to give credit to senator sanders. he has tapped into, in many instances, the fears, the concern about the economy, the concern about big money, politics, all of those types of issues. senator clinton talks about many of the same things and proposes solutions at the same time. it will be interesting to watch
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this. >> you say we can't neglect that. the context for the statement is that the message is somehow getting lost from secretary clinton. as they retool the campaign, what is your advice for what secretary clinton needs to do differently, more any word you know to put on it, to get in the race in a bigger way? >> well, one, you keep fighting for every vote. two, the message some iowa, nevada, new hampshire, south carolina, they always get tweaked to some extent as you know your audience and highlight some things and maybe deemphasize some others. i think secretary clinton will stay focused on who she is and what this campaign is really all about, not only highlighting the challenges in america but putting forward clear, practical, pragmatic solutions to the many issues that people are facing in the united states of america. i think it is not enough to highlight the problems. but you also have to have the experience and the focus to get
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things done, make things happen. that again is really her strong suit in decades of public service. >> the three most hroelded words in politics, we will see. we will put a date and time on when we will see tomorrow night. why? clinton and sanders face off in wisconsin, pbs news hour democratic debate simulcast here on cnn, 9:00 p.m. eastern. you get to see the two go head to head. alisyn. okay. trump rival jeb bush getting a big bounce in new hampshire. what's his plan now? we'll ask him next.
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the pundits had it all figured out last monday night when the iowa caucuses were complete. they had the race was a three-person race between two freshman senators and a reality tv store. while the reality tv star is still doing well, it looks like you have all reset the race. for that, i am really grateful. >> that was former florida governor jeb bush with a strong fourth place finish in new hampshire in a crowded race for the establishment alternative to donald trump. joining us by phone is jeb bush. good morning, governor. >> good morning, alisyn. i hope you're doing well. >> i'm doing well. how are you doing is the question? >> got to hilton head at 2:00 this morning. i've been up for a couple hours.
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a little bit of a dream to be able to run for the president of the united states. >> now, there's two different ways to look at your finish last night. either you can say you came in fourth, which does not sound as impressive as you exceeded expectations. if you look at what the polls suggested, the day before new hampshire they predicted you would have 7%. you came in with 11%. so i know you prefer to see it that way than the other way. but what do you mean by you have a reset now? >> well, it was -- there's this emerging conventional wisdom that forms during the week. i don't know. everybody gets together to decide how it is supposed to be. and exceeding those expectations are always important. the bigger issue is what do we
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do the next eight years? restore our national security and give people the economic security if possible again? or just be mired in a deep divide. i'm going to focus on economic and national security issues and leadership skills necessary rather than just the skills of playing on people. >> you are alluding in part to donald trump you have been taking shots or returning fire calling him a liar and whiner. the fact is he trounced everyone last night. he got more than twice his closest competitor who was governor kasich. he won with all sorts of different people. he won with conservative voters. he won with moderate or liberals, he won with women. so what's your message to the people who voted for trump? why should you be able to peel
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away some of his support towards you? >> well, first of all, he got 30% of the vote. that's a great win. and i commend him for it. but two-thirds of republican voteers that didn't support it. a lot of people won't because he disparages people, divides people p. i understand why you're angry. here's the solution. the solution is let's forge consensus on how he taxes and regulates. civil service reform so public employees aren't our masters but the serve ant. repeal obama care. i have an agenda that will be the anecdote to the fear people feel. and he hasn't offered a compelling alternative to where we are right now. he just says i'll fix it.
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it will be huge or whatever. nothing tangible suggests he has the skills to do it. >> you're touching on something very important. we have heard it throughout this entire race. he appeals to people who are disgusted with the party. how do you convince those people that you don't represent, you know, the republican party? >> well, i'm the son of george h.w. bush, barbara bush and my brother as president. i love them all. but i have a record in tallahassee. i'm not a creature of washington what. you have the national security issues. they want a commander in chief that will have a steady hand to act on that will support the troops and have detailed plans how to keep it safe.
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here in south carolina, that's an issue. i'm going to stay focused on what i can control. i can't control his incredible ability to consume the news to fill the space. but i'm on the side of people who are really struggling right now. over the long haul, and this is the long haul process, we will continue to move up. >> governor, what do you think happens to two of your rivals, marco rubio and chris christie? >> they are both good people. they will make up their mind how they will go forward. my guess is we will see them in south carolina. i don't know. i haven't talked to them. i just kind of focus on what i can do to be able to become the alternative to donald trump. we can win. we can beat hillary clinton or bernie sand ersz. >> it is still a big field. you had been focused on some of marco rubio's attention.
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is it time to turn your attention to tpwofrpbor kasich? >> i commend him. he worked hard in new hampshire. he has nothing going on down here. he has no tangible support. we have been building an organization here. he's been a capable governor for sure. eye the most conservative capable governor in the field. here in south carolina they generally support the most conservative candidate that can win. i think that's me. >> let's talk about what you're going to do in south carolina. in 2000, your brother george w. moved to the right in south carolina to beat john mccain. he did have a bit of a different message in south carolina than he had, say, in new hampshire. what is your plan is south carolina and will your brother be coming out to campaign for you? >> the answer to that is yes, he is going to campaign for me. they are working out the details. i'm excited about that.
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and the answer to the first question is i'm going to stay true to who i am. i am a personal responsibility individual, freedom, loving conservative with a reformer's heart. and that's exactly the message i had in tphfnew hampshire and th the message i will continue to have here. the national security measures require american leadership. we see it each and every day. the director of national intelligence testimony the last couple of days when we were down in new hampshire was chilling in his assessment that we are more vulnerable to attack than ever before. so people here in south carolina love the military. they want to see a strong military. they want someone that will be on the side as well. >> last night, carly fiorina,
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ben carson and chris christie did not have strong finishes. would it help the race for some of them to get out? >> well, ultimately everyone makes their decision paved on the conditions that are in front of them. all three of those people are extraordinary men and women. they make big contributions to the process. i would love to have their support. and they go forward, which i'm going to respect as well. >> well, governor jeb bush, we really appreciate you taking the time to be on "new day". we look forward to watching what happens in south carolina. thanks so much for being here. >> thanks, alisyn. >> pleasure. over to michaela. >> ohio governor john kasich scoring big with a strong second place finish. is it a sign his positive message is resonate something we are going to speak to someone who knows kasich well, his lieutenant governor. this about a boy?
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it was a big night in new hampshire for john kasich. he came in second behind donald trump. kasich running what he calls a positive campaign and basically avoiding the mud slinging that has gone on between his rivals. does he now have a target on his back? joining us is kasich's colleague oh lieutenant governio lieutena
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>> john kasich is in south carolina, his first public event is this morning. so the team is in south carolina and ready to go. >> governor kasich has been telling us at cnn for weeks that he predicted a very big finish in new hampshire. he really thought this is what was going to happen, even though he exceeded expectations. he did better than the polls suggested. why do you think he was so confident? >> well first of all we had 11 or 12 polls in a row that showed him in solid second. i can tell you there was a lot of support for john kasich and i talked to a lot of people here that in the last few hours made up their mind and made their decision to support john kasich. he brings people together.
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he has a positive message. he has the right experience to lead this country and i think that's the message that really won the night. and obviously i think it describes his very strong finish. >> here is our math. >> we believe he had 106 town halls in new hampshire. and that he spent 62 days there in the state talking to voters. obviously he can't be everywhere all the time. so now what happens? in the southern states and in south carolina where he hasability been able to invest the time and build that up ground game as much. >> well the one thing about governor kasich and his campaign organization i can tell you they do grassroots very well. and the team is on the ground working in south carolina and i would expect they are going to have the same ground force we saw here in new hampshire. i think because of the way the primary season goes of course you saw the candidates primarily
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spending time in iowa and new hampshire and now he's going to focus on south carolina and move onto the southeastern states and then of course to the midwest where we know governor kasich will finish very strong. kasich is going to win ohio and he's the only republican that absolutely can win. and so he is the candidate that brings not only the winning message but the right campaign and the right grassroots structure that is going to win. >> of course the issue is you don't get to ohio until march 15th and there is all this territory to cover before that including the southern states where it's subjected that his message of moderation and progresstism may not play as well with the more conservative voters there in fact senator graham has something to say about that. has you know he's he's endorsing jeb bush but listen to what e says will be the challenge.
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>> what do you say to that criticism? well governor kasich is a conservative. and i think all you have to do is look at what he's done in ohio. cut taxes by $5 billion. we have fewer state employees than we've had in the last 30 years. he was the last person to balance the federal budget when he was in congress he led the charge there. as far as military, governor kasich wants to spend the money where it should be spent with regard to the military. he wants to shape up the pentagon, get rid of the red tape and bureaucracy and make sure more of that money goes to the men and women who are fighting to protect this country. he has the experience. he has the conservative principles and he has the leadership that is going to win the day and i believe that
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voters in the south and south carolina will see that governor kasich is a conservative. his record demonstrates that. and he is the republican that can win in the general election. >> last lieutenant governor he ran a positive campaign and he prided himself on his message. that was quite different than donald trump who as you know took shots at his rivals and it worked for him. so do you think that governor kasich is going to be able to stay purely positive and not go negative as the race moves ahead? >> that is who governor kasich is. it is in his dna. he has a message to deliver to the american people that is positive that brings people together. he works across the aisle and that is the kind of leadership we need in washington. so yes that is who governor kasich is. he has a positive message and the right leadership and i would expect that that is what we'll
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see more of from john kasich. >> ohio lieutenant governor, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we're following a lot of news, including where the presidential race goes after last night. so let's get right to it. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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we want to welcome our -- >> this is "new day" with -- >> can't step on our names. welcome to "new day." new hampshire goes to bernie sanders and in a much bigger way than even expect. same goes for donald trump. his first win a big one. another headline there. the battle for second in the gop. ohio governor john kasich who we're going to hear from in a moment coming on stoce ing stro. jeb bush in a dead heat with ted cruz. and marco rubio capping off a rough few days by dropping to fifth after his pour debate performance. chris christie, carly fiorina.
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ben carson. almost afterthoughts in this election. >> so on the democratic side, younger voters and independents giving bernie sanders a big push in his win over hillary clinton. sanders now looking to court minority vote who are have historically been courting clinton in south carolina and nevada. the only thing that's certain is there has been a reshuffling and it is a wide open race now. let's turbibegin with sarah mur live in charleston. >> a lot of people believed it would never happen that it couldn't be done but donald trump notched his first victory of 2016 and he wasn't the only re republican defying expectations last night. >> new hampshire, i want to thank you. we love you. we're going to be back a lot. we're not going to forget you. you started it. >> donald trump exhilarated after crushing his gop rivals by more than 50,000 votes. >> we are going to make america
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so great again. maybe greater than ever before. >> boasting amid record republican turnout about how he pulled off his big win after a disappointing loss this iowa. >> i think the ground game is very strong and i'll tell you we really focused on it after iowa. the ground game is not something i was extremely familiar with but i learned quickly. >> the other big winner, second place finisher john kasich. >> if you don't have a seat belt get one. >> taking pride in running a positive campaign in a field of sharp elbows. >> the light of came the darkness of negative campaigning. >> meanwhile the winner of iowa caucuses ted cruz in a dead heat for third with jeb bush. >> this campaign is not dead we're going on to south carolina. >> and marco rubio suffering a bruising fifth place finish. even admitting his rocky debate performance was likely to blame.
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>> our disappointment tonight was not on you. it's on me. it's on me. i did not do well on saturday night. so listen to this, that will never happen again. [ cheers and applause ] >> now last night was huge for john kasich. he had pinned his hopes on new hampshire. and after he saw that strong finish he wanted to hustle to get here to south carolina. so he took an overnight flight and i was on the flight with him. he told me why he was not stunned to see his big result last night. >> what was going through your head when you got the second place victory tonight? were you expecting it? did it come as the surprise? >> you know, i was very calm about it. i sort of felt we were going to be in second place, i heard earlier that there was some word that we were going to be there. and then, you know, when i traveled around to the polling places, it was pretty clear. i was running into everybody and they were like yeah we really like you and all that stuff.
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so, you know, i'm gratified by it for sure. i think it is fantastic. but i wouldn't say i was shocked by it. >> now the bush campaign is already previewing the attacks they are going to use against you in south carolina, saying that you are going to weaken the military. >> i'm gonna weaken the military. >> are you prepared for the incoming fire that is going to come your way now that you have landed a second place finish? >> well i think they spent about $120 million so far and i don't know someone said as much as 50 million in new hampshire. they ought to get this figured out at some point. they are spending so much money. i don't know what's advising them. i think that's kind of silly. >> are you ready for this to be the new normal? >> i think it is pretty normal. yeah i think i'm fine. you know, my efforts have been validated and then i thought, you know, how cool it would be to be able to finish up high.
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and i wasn't spinning any of you. and then i'm not really shocked that we're in second but everything's sort of evolved more than it's just been like we flipped a switch and this is happening. i'm prepared for this. what do we think the bush campaign spent against? >> they. >> they spent seven or eight. four million spent by another super pac. that was 12. rubio spent money against me. that's like $15 million of direct hits. and that doesn't even count the mail pieces. and we beat everybody. accept trump, who never attacked me. so i know we can't just go through like falling off a turnip truck and saying that everything is just going to be positive because i'm going to have to respond to some of the stuff. but i'm starting to really think we're on to something. i'm starting to really think
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that the positive nature of a campaign can be very effective. i'm starting to think it could be true. >> now, as the race moves here to south carolina, the kasich campaign doesn't necessarily feel like they have to win the state but they do feel like they have some momentum going in and at a minimum they have proven he's a viable candidate and they no longer have to start at ground zero with introducing him to voters and hoping this pays off later on in march. >> new hampshire and south carolina it is almost your turn. thanks for that. in a democratic race bernie sanders win over hillary clinton in new hampshire. how will they shift their strategies now heading into the upcoming contest? live in new hampshire is jeff zeleny with the latest. >> reporter: good morning. we are getting a picture of how much that bernie sanders victory is actually worth. from 8:00 p.m. to about midnight
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or so i'm told he raised $2.6 million and counting. that certainly is going to increase as we head into the day after his victory. but this is a whole new moment. a whole new day of this democratic race. hillary clinton always said she deputy want a coronation. now she's not getting one. a victory lap for bernie sanders. >> the people of new hampshire have sent a profound message to the political establishment, to the economic plisestablishment. and by the way to the media establishment. >> and a profound message to hillary clinton who's no longer the undisputed democratic front runner. a commanding win for sanders, riding a wave of discontent at politics a as usual. >> the people want real change. >> the clinton campaign had predicted a loss in new hampshire. and they got one. even bigger than they feared.
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supporters masked their frustration with cheers. >> my goodness. i -- i don't know what we'd have done tonight if we actually won. >> a new day in the democratic primary fight. sanders will certainly draw more juteny as the battle with clinton intensifies. >> they are throwing everything at me except the kitchen sink. and i have the feeling the kitchen sink is coming pretty soon. >> as the race moves to nevada and south carolina, sanders vowed to build on his growing movement. but it is an open question whether he can find the same appeal in a diverse electorate of black and hispanic voters. >> what began last week in iowa with voters here in new hampshire confirmed tonight is nothing short of the beginning of a political revolution. >> a humbling and frustrating moment for clinton. but she made clear she's been down that road before. >> i know i've had a blessed life. but i also know what it is like
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to stumble and fall. and we've learned it is not whether you get knocked down that matters. it is whether you get back up. >> joining us now is senator sanders' campaign manager jeff weaver. congratulations sir. what was the biggest surprise for you last night? >> well thank you very much, chris. i think we're just overwhelmed by the amount of support that we were shown by the people of new hampshire. it was an extraordinary evening. tremendous margin of victory. and again, on behalf of the senator and our whole campaign, very grateful to the people of new hampshire. >> did jeff weaver see a 55-44 win coming with women? >> well it was clear to us as senator sanders was campaigning around new hampshire that he had broad-based support among women in new hampshire. obviously that margin again is very gratifying but certainly
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throughout all of our events throughout the state we had large representation of women at all the events. >> the only gap for sanders is with contemporary, men and women his age. why? >> well we're going to be working on that. i think people should know his record of defending social security. standing up for veterans. protecting medicare. he is the founder of the defending social security caucus in the senate. so he has a long history of protecting programs for seniors across the country. and i think we have to work harder to get that message out. >> the theory of the case to hear it from senator sanders is people want real change. the suggestion is hillary clinton can't offer that. why? >> look chris, we have a rigged economy, held up by a corrupt system of campaign finance. senator sanders has dedicated
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his life to combatting that, to making sure we have an economy that works for middle income and working families. that's been the work of his life. he is the person best positioned at this moment in history to deal with those particular problems. >> and it is true now that sanders has won in new hampshire. there will be more scrutiny because people will be taking him more seriously. you are seeing it from different quarters. senator fieinsteifeinstein, nan. they come ford and say this single payor thing ain't going happen. is bernie sanders over promising? >> no it is not about over promising, chris. listen, democrats cannot have their vision for america constrained by what the current republican congress is willing to accept. if that is the point then we might as well just elect a republican. we need a democratic leader in this country who is going to articulate a bold vision. who's going to move us down the
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road as far as we can go like others in the past have done. franklin d. roosevelt or barack obama frankly. we don't need a tepid program that is going to move us inches when we could move much much further, even if we can't get all of the way to the end of the road in one presidency. we need a bold leader and bernie sanders represents that kind of leadership. >> tepid, good for bath water. bad for change. another thing you are going to hear today. is sanders a true democrat. black voters, hispanic and latino. the senator new to the game. clinton has been there for years. how does he make inroads? >> senator sanders has caucused with the democrats and the congress, the house and the senate for decades. he was the democratic chairman of the senate veterans affairs committee. now the ranking member on the
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budget committee on the democratic side. i find this argument curious. a day ago he was being criticized by helping elect democrats and now i guess he's going to be attacked for not being a democrat. this is the type of politics which i think really turns people off chris. people want a debate on the issues that face them in their lives. all of this petty politics, i think we need to leave that aside now that we're leaving new hampshire and going on to nevada and south carolina and other places and hopefully the clinton campaign will get their campaign back on track where we can talk about the issues facing america. >> the good news is it is not just about whether or not senator sanders is viable in a primary. the bad news is it is now about whether you are electable in the general. and the numbers cut both ways. there are polls that show he does well against the gop candidates but when you look at this number we have right now. can you win in november? when that was polled in new hampshire based on why they voted, clinton won 79-19.
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how do you overcome that perception that he sounds good but it ain't practical? >> as you mention the polls show in general election match ups that he does better and i think the new hampshire primary is important here for a couple of reasons. one is obviously early but the other reason why the new hampshire primary is so important is because as you know independents can participate in the democratic primary process here in and those independents are going to be critical to democratic victory in november. and as you saw last night senator sanders got over 70% of the independent vote. of those independents who participate in the democratic primary process. we as democrats cannot win in november if we don't have the support of independent. senator sanders energizes independents he's going bring them to the democratic side so we elect democrats up and down the ballot. >> that is always an interesting process based with what we're seeing from feinstein and other
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democratic leadership now. it still comes down to expanding the base as you suggest. big numbers last night. not a record. the question is can bernie sanders do what then senator obama did? what do you believe needs to happen to connect better with young and african american and latino voters? because that is not happening enough right now? >> well it is happening more than it was happening chris. and i'll tell you we're going now to nevada and south carolina and is it states that follow senator sanders will be having a conversation with voters in those states. and i think what will happen there is what happened in iowa and new hampshire. as voters get to know him, his agenda and record for standing up for people and against injustice that he'll have success in those states do we have work to do? absolutely we're going to earn every vote we don't anything for granted i don't think any campaign should take anybody's vote for granted. we're going to work hard and senator sanders is going work to earn every vote. >> trying to e send the message that they have game. sanders doing it literally.
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playing basketball last night and allowing cameras in. do we have the video to show that? the kthds like to show some cool. there is sanders. using that brooklyn bank shot. what kind of game does he have? he looks like both hands on the ball. is he going old school with the two hand. >> old school? i don't know. come on. he's a very energetic guy and his grandchildren really keep him going. >> he does look like he's having a good time with them. i hope he's not throwing any elbows although that is what this race is going to demand. >> -- [inaudible]. >> -- take the legs out. take area jeff weaver. >> take care. >> a little b-ball. candidates looking ahead to south carolina. which voters will be crucial for both parties in that primary? and how can the candidates secure their support? caring for someone with alzheimer's means
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welcome back to "new day" with the new hampshire primary wrapped up the candidates now looking ahead to their next primary in south carolina and of course the caucus in nevada. jong king is in washington with a look at what's ahead. hi john. >> good morning. how we feeling today. >> before we move ahead let's do the post game wrap up and maybe
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you can explain how donald trump and bernie sanders secured thaib their big wins last night. >> whoopings. donald trump had everything he wanted last night. you could not script this better for him. number 1, 35%. number two, he won everywhere. i'm going to go back to 2012. the coral color. rand paul. the darker red mitt romney. trump winning just about everywhere in the state. sweeping across the republican spectrum. getting this 35% win. kasich, 20 points back in second place. why else does donald trump love this? because we go on to south carolina. yes he knows cruz is a formidable threat and rival. cruz it looks like will finish third. but the center right t governors, the marco rubio wing of the party is a muttaled mess. this is a collapse in new
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hampshire. he was at 18% just before the big debate. big questions now about rubio going forward and chris christie another center right, some republicans call him a moderate is gone home to new jersey to think about whether or not he stays in the race. don't be surprised if he's gone by the end of the day. so a thumping by donald trump over the republicans. despite all the doubts and look at this bernie sanders is light blue. i don't need to say a word. this is hillary clinton back in 2008 in a close race with barack obama. new hampshire and iowa two states that have told us they want something different and change. and they are swing states in the general election and these voters are cranky and want something new. >> sanders guy out of the game the phrases out of them are real change and is that the message is bigger than the man. and both of those things
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targeted to the negative perceptions on the hillary clinton. so one thing donald trump didn't get last night that he wanted i would suggest is for others to drop out. so let's take a look. let's hop over south carolina. let's talk to nevada and what could happen there? what could it mean for him and the rest of the field? >> nevada is next more the democrats. republicans go first to south carolina. you could argue either way about whether or not donald trump wants his 35 to stay in. that's within the whole question in the republican race. do we get trump cruz and who? do we get one mainstream alternative? at the moment we don't. and now you still have bush kasich and rubio and we'll see what christie does fighting that in south carolina. the fascinating thing is with nevada, let's start with the democrats here. the clinton campaign. the latino population t deep deep ter colors the more latinos in the state. now that we get to the traditional democratic base
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clinton thinks they can beat sanders. lib -- bernie sanders yes he has to introduce himself but he's got momentum right now chris. let's go back and look at the 2008 results. 65% of the electorate. so two-thirds of the electorate is white. hillary clinton won the white vote in the 2008 but barely. and then the african american vote. and this is a key constituency for the democrats who expect this to be a little higher this time. that's 2008, chris. the question is can bernie sanders introduce himself to these people and do enough of them perceive bernie sanders as weak to give hillary clinton a opening. >> let's hopscotch back to south carolina. obviously there are conservative voters there. is that considered cruz country at this point?
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>> donald trump was leading in the polls. heading into the iowa and new hampshire. but this is why this gets really fascinating. we go into a race where in the past you had rick santorum win iowa last name. huckabee in 2008 and those christian conservative evangelical candidates did not have the resources to go on. ted cruz does. what if there is a dark color here? the deeper the color, the higher the percentage of evangelicals. so you see iowa in here with a pretty healthy thing. new hampshire, almost no evangelicals. where is ted cruz going now? he's going down here to south carolina. this is why you already have -- i'm going pull up the map a little bit. go look at the advertisements on line ladies and gentlemen. trump and cruz already in greenville. boom. attack ads against each other because this is a big reason for evangelicals in the state. but south carolina has an interesting history. let me turn off the demographics. in 2012. gingrich over mitt romney. gingrich just about everything
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else. this race looks a lot more like 2008 where this is mike huckabee, your traditional evangelical candidate. this is mccain t mainstream establishment candidate. in going to be really fascinating to watch. can rubio get back on his feet? a big debate this weekend. can jeb bush turn 11% in new hampshire? can he rebound in a state that's been good to the bushes? and what about trump/cruz? boom. >> there you go. >> a lot of ifs? >> in both races the long way to go is instructive. these races are not ending early. >> john king thank you so much. one thing we do know is the new hampshire prime i have a game changer for the gop field. john kasich breaking out of pack finishing second for the republicans. did his success just put a huge target on his back though?
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who can give the people what they want? the answer in new hampshire for the gop? donald trump. that's who. checking boxes for just about all types of republican voters. let's get three takes from three camps as the south carolina primary approaches. are we going to lose some people if the field stay this is big? what does it mean? discuss. cnn political commentator anna navarro. cnn political commentator amanda carpenter and cnn political commentator jeffrey lord, a proud donald trump supporter. anna i start with you this morning. a you have good news about your man jeb bush. why was he more successful last night? what does it mean going forward? >> listen, first of all i think he's a better candidate by the
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day. there's no doubt that jeb had some rust. i think it is all off right now. i've been to some of his town halls. i was at some of them in new hampshire and the difference is dramatic. also because i think new hampshire is better suited for him. but i am very proud of him okay because just a week ago out of iowa we were writing his obituary and giving his last rites and picking out the coffin. he shook it off. went to new hampshire, kept going to town hall, after town hall and listening to the people of new hampshire, that have real problems and giving them real answers in real time. and i think what you saw yesterday was the resurrection of jeb bush. hallelujah. >> amanda, let's talk about ted cruz. he came in third last night. and so now we move on to south carolina. and he and donald trump have been going at each other as you know and that appears to be continuing. here is a new ad from donald trump trashing ted cruz.
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watch this. >> -- who runs a campaign of dirty tricks that tries to sabotage -- ted cruz. the worst kind of washington insider who just can't be trusted. >> like grandpa coming after ted cruz with that voice there. >> is this still the battle we should look for? ted cruz, donald trump? >> yeah. cruz/trump is the number one battle. below that you have bush and rubio duking it out. as for this ad it is really interesting. clearly donald trump views ted cruz as his strongest competition for the nomination. clearly donald trump understands it is an outsider year. and is trying to paint ted cruz as the insider which is just laughable on its face given cruz's track record. but they are going to have the discussion and donald trump is going to have the really negative over the top nasty attacks. i expect ted cruz will continue to answer it with humor and
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continue to talk to voters about why he's the real conservative in the race. and on the new hampshire race, jeb bush reportedly spent $36 million for that fourth place finish. so in terms of going the distance and running a smart campaign and using the money well going into a big event cruz has a lot of momentum in terms of being able to go to distance. >> jeffrey, in terms of that ad how big a stick does donald trump think the dirty trix against carson is is that he dedicates a whole ad to it? how do you think that helps? >> what every candidate has to do is paint a portrait of the other guy. that is what ted cruz is trying to do with donald trump. that is what all the candidates are trying to do with each other. so i don't really find anything terribly exceptional about this.
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this is what you do in presidential primaries and in presidential elections period. so, you know, he's running the ad here. what i find very interesting is that in the figures last night, the exit poll, donald trump beat ted cruz but i think it was 12 points among those who described themselves as very conservative which is very interesting because senator cruz is indeed a conservative but a lot of americans, a lot of new hampshire its certainly perceive donald trump to be the same. >> this is also about sucking up to ben carson. ben carson's campaign has disintegrated. he's well liked still. he really is a persona that people like. particularly in a place like south carolina. >> you think trump is trying to cultivate him. >> oh yes he is. trump is no dummy. any moment he's going to offer to do ben carson's laundry so
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ben carson doesn't have to -- ben carson still has 8, 9% of the vote and in a population like south carolina where there are so me evangelicals and social valued christian, ben carson's support could be significant. >> donald trump's people will do ben carson's laundry. >> and he'll buy him a loulaund. >> ben carson, carly fiorina, chris christie, marco rubio all had underwhelming finishes. what happens this week? >> i think chris christie is clearly thinking about it. but to anna's point there are a lot of crumbs left at the table for other candidates to pick up. the key is who can court those voters. who can consolidate that. i think you saw evidence of the cruz consolidating the rand paul wing in new hampshire last night with the surprise finish. cruz was able to pick up huckabee people. we'll see what happens with
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carson. anna is dead right. trump is making a play for the carson folks. so we'll see what happens there. but i think fiorina has to do some thinking at this point and too carly's candidacy, i hope if and when she makes that decision she puts a point on her candidacy. a woman in the field, had a good showing early on. we need to talk about the meaning of her candidacy and how it will help more republican women later on. and so i think she -- i hope she makes that case some time soon. because it was important. and i just don't want to see her go away quietly. >> well the big bleed last night though was in rubio's numbers. jeffrey lord. 89% of the people who voted in the last 72 hours, they split kasich, trump. we're saying the debate was a very big deal for them. so where his support went seemed to make a big different. but donald trump, talking about getting people out the field. why would he want that? isn't that the fear?
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you have this risk of o coalescing around a faction of the party he doesn't represent. >> i'm not sure so sure about that chris. that if everybody gets behind one person that that would be their key to success. i'm not so sure. looking at across the board results here with donald trump. one other thing, our friend and colleague michael smerconish was pointing out last night, that of the other candidates when you get to this discussion of who is going to get out, there is that small thing known as ego. and already last night i heard i believe the kasich campaign trying to prod jeb bush out of the campaign. and i certainly don't think he's about to go. so you are going to get into this business of "no, you go, and no, you go." and we'll see what happens. turns out the economy was the most important issue for voters there in new hampshire,
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so what can we expect moving forward? >> lots of travel. >> that's for us. that's true. what can voters expect? joining us -- great to have all of you here. frank let's start with you. donald trump had such a decisive win last night. more than double his closest kpor in kasich. what stops trump moving forward? how does he lose?competitor in . what stops trump moving forward? how does he lose? >> i this i what stops him is we still don't know what the ceiling is on his support. if the rest of the field somehow winnows which people were hoping would happen didn't happen. trump could be stopped that with only a few other candidates -- >> i just notice the pundits keep having to move the ceiling
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up. >> let's go to mark preston out there. just to be fair. you are out there. you are living it. a personification of it right now. this idea that people would drop out. do we believe that was extended simply because of what happened on saturday night? or a little bit of what happened last night as well mark. >> i think a little bit of both. if marco rubio had done well on saturday night there would have been telephone calls taking place at this hour if not a couple of hours trying to consolidate the middle line. chris christie looks by all intents and purposes he'll drop out but we would have thought that perhaps jeb bush would have dropped out as well. marco rubio when he had the poor debate performance he's opened the lane and there is going to be more than one car in it. kasich showed he can win. the question is can he win beyond new hampshire. what was a hope on the
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republican establishment side chris and alisyn when it comes to the moderate lane, the centerist lane, that is not going to happen. >> watch this what south carolina voters are saying today. >> i'm donald trump and i approve this message. >> what kind of man talks from both sides of his mouth for amnesty for illegals on national television and still denies it? he took more than a million dollars from sweet loans from wall street banks and failed to -- runs a campaign of dirty tricks that tried to sabotage ben carson with false rumors. ted cruz the worst kind of washington insider who just can't be trusted. >> why is he whispering? >> because he's angry. >> he's so angry he can't yell. >> kaekt. >> i think a number of points. first of all cruz and trump are in control of this campaign
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right now. cruz doesn't do as well in new hampshire. but now he goes into the south. a lot of evangelicals waiting for donald trump. this is going to be a national security primary as well. it's always been that military issues loom very large. it will be a strong hard right ideological campaign. that's trouble for kasich. for jeb bush, what's different here. he's got lindsay gram down here who's going to be arguing his case and for the first time he has his brother george w. bush. >> -- [inaudible]. >> -- ran a really hard right ideological campaign. tough campaign against him and won. will bush make the case against donald trump and try to break up this mainstream mash up in the middle? if that does not happen then rubio can't find a lane, bush can't find a lane and it will still be cruz and trump in
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control. >> this attack ad from ted cruz to donald trump. enjoy. >> hey hillary. i'll give you money to be my friend. check out my house mr. trump. that's a lousy house. i'm going to take your house with eminent domain and park my limos there. >> we wouldn't tolerate these values in our children. why would we want them in a president? >> -- >> -- my kids are always fighting about eminent domain. i don't know about yours. >> i'm not sure that ad is going to do much good. and in a weird way trump is impervious to the is it stuff. i think the ad against cruz is much better. and if you looked at the exit polls, among people who cared about personal characteristics and leadership quality, ted cruz
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polled abominably. and that is the ad against him. the ad against trump so lighthearted and silly it defangs itself and that's been thrown at trump already there is nothing new there. >> don't forget. donald trump does break doll houses. he has very high unfavorables in this race. so that is why it is so important for the party to whittle it down. >> he just lost the barbie vote? >> we have no confirmation of him ever breaking a doll house. mark preston, what's happening as we go forward my friend? what do you see? >> the hope is certainly amongst the republican establishment is that ted cruz and donald trump destroy each other. the hope is that they beat each other up so much that people on the edge whose might like trump because they the he's a fighter for america could peel off him and maybe go with a more mainstream candidate such as jeb or rubio or kasich.
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but what's interesting about jeb in many ways is that jeb is not only going to go after rubio because of the personal rift obviously but last night he went very hard against donald trump trying to compare and contrast himself to say who has better values? do you really want donald trump to be yours president is so i would expect to bush go hard at trump down in south carolina. >> great two have all of you watching us this morning. newsroom with carol costello begins right after this very short break. you investment opportunities. i've got a fantastic deal for you- gold! with the right pool of investors, there's a lot of money to be made. but first, investors must ask the right questions and use the smartcheck challenge to make the right decisions. you're not even registered; i'm done with you! i can...i can... savvy investors check their financial pro's background by visiting smartcheck.gov
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craig: laquinta! happening now in the newsroom. trump on top in new hampshire. >> we are going to make america great again. >> a strong second for kasich. and a jumble for third. >> it looks like you all have reset the race and for that i am really grateful. >> our disappointment tonight is not on you. it is on me. >> now it is on to south carolina. plus -- sanders storms to a first place finish for the democrats beating clinton by 20 points. >> we have sent the message that will echo from wall street to washington, from maine

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