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the trump candidacy on the blue collar side and the bush candidacy from the evangelical side and then who can manage the managerial component party. the news continues next on cnn. just a short time in now a significant and pointment moment for america's commander in chief. it was nine years ago on this very day president barack obama. then senator president barack obama announced his bid for the white house in springfield, illinois. today he will return to that very building and those very steps there in springfield to reflect on his successes and confront his failures in a speech before state lawmakers.
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we are told he will admit that politics in the u.s. are meaner and more divided than ever before, something he promised to avoid. it comes as you know during a historic and fiery race to elect his successor. a major address by president obama minutes away. we will tape the whole thing live. first this, to the race for the presidency. can south carolina's primary do what new hampshire's did not, define an alternative candidate to donald trump and ted cruz. while trump surpassed the lead polls predicted, the standings after that. the pundits are calling it, quote, the muddle in the middle. you are looking at the muddle right now. there is no single stands out to unify the establishment as the race moves to the february 20th primary in south carolina. ohio governor john kasich came in second but jeb bush and marco rubio were not too far behind. it's not just republicans but democrats facing a long primary season after new hampshire.
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senator bernie sanders crushed hillary clinton by 22 points. with an eight figure sized war chest sanders has the money to shake clinton's confidence for some time. it is all the makings for a major showdown in south carolina for both parties. and that brings me to our victor blackwell. he is in bluffton, south carolina, where jeb bush just held an event. victor blackwell, i hear bush had arrows only for the front-runner, donald trump? >> brooke, he didn't call trump a liar loser and a whiner as he did in a tweet on the eve of the new hampshire primary but continued the refrain, saying that trump doesn't have the tell rement nor the credentials to be the next commander in chief. we've seen jeb ramp up the attacks on donald trump starting with the debate in new hampshire. that proved to serve him well, finishing in fourth place yesterday. and we are seeing that that narrative is continuing as he
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starts now focusing on the primary coming ten days from now. listen to a part what have he said to the crowd here in bluffton this morning. >> if you are looking for a president that doesn't give two hoots about focus groups and what's popular, you are looking at the guy that should be president of the united states. because they have written me off in this campaign over and over again. following the polls, my god there is an obsession about this. how about doing what is right for the first time in a long while. >> trump can talk a good game. man, he is a good talker. but i think we need someone who has actually disrupted the old order for the benefit of the people that they serve. >> jeb bush has been of course running with the jeb expolice manation point stickers and banners. don't be surprised if we see bush
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on the air today a new add from the campaign featuring george w. bush. we know he has recorded ads for the super pac, the right to rise for his brother. but now he is joining the campaign, heading across this state, and they are going to push the him as the next commander in chief. they believe that's his strongest card. >> victor blackwell, thank you very much. with that, the president of the united states. he's early. let's take you live now. he is in springfield, ill ill, he is addressing the general assemb assembly. nine years ago on this very day then senator barack obama announced his bid for the white house. let's listen. >> member of the general assembly, my fellow illinoisans.
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it's actually kind of fun to start a speech like that twice in one month. what an incredible privilege it is to address this chamber. and to governor and senator durbin e members of congress, speaker maddigan, former governor pack quinn, the mayor and the people of springfield, thank you for such a warm welcome as i come back home. [ applause ] >> thank you. [ applause ] >> thank you so much. thank you. certainly honored. thank you guys. it's very nice. thank you. [ applause ] thank you. thank you.
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thank you. thank you so much. it is -- it is great to see so many old friends like john colorton and emile jones. i miss you guys. >> we miss you! [ laughter ] >> it's great to be in the state capital. you know, being here today calls to mine the first time i spoke on the senate floor almost 20 years ago. and i was passionate, idealistic, ready to make a difference. just to stand in that magnificent chamber was enough to fill me up with a heightened sense of purpose. and i probably needed a little dose of reality when i first arrived. so one day i rose to speak about a bill. and i thought i had made some compelling points with irrefutable logic.
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and i was about to sit down, feeling pretty good about myself when pete phillip.
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>> i was chasened and i said if i survive this event i will be continually grateful and i will consider this a highlight of my legal and legislative career. i asked for a vote. initially the tote board showed it was going doesn't.
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but at the last minute it tlipd and my bill passed. but i was duly reminded that i was a freshman in the minority. and i want to thank all my former colleagues in both chambers for not letting me forget it. to be a rookie in the minority party, as i was, is not much fun in any legislature. and we were called mushrooms because we were kept in the dark and fed a lot of manure. [ laughter ] you know, but one benefit of being in such a position, not being invited into the meetings where the big deals were being made, is that i had a lot of time get to know my colleagues. and many of us were away from our families. and so we became friends. we went to fish fries together. we'd go to union halls. we'd play in golf scrambles.
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we had a great bipartisan poker game at the illinois manufacturer's association. ledge wick would host. electen felled and terry link and others would join in. we'd eat downstairs. i can't say i miss the horse shoes. but away from the glare of tv, or the tweets, or the gifts of today's media, what we discovered was that despite our surface differences, democrats and republicans, down state hog formers, inner city african-americans, suburban business people, latinos from pillson or little village -- despite those differences, we actually had a lot in common. we cared about our communities. we cared about our families. we cared about america. we fought hard for our positions.
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while i'm being nostalgic here, we voted against each other most of the time and held along party lines. but the friendship proved we can assume the best in one another and not the worst. i was reminiscing with christine redonnia. we came in in the same class. we were on opposite sides of the same issues but i always trusted her and believed she was a good person. and that if we had a bill we might be able to work together on, it was a pleasure to work with her on. or dave severson. we were together on the public health and welfare committee and got some important work done that made a difference in people's lives. and we didn't call each other idiots, or fascists who were trying to destroy america. because then we would have to explain why we were plaik playing poker or having drink with an idiot or a fascist who
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was trying to destroy america [ laughter ] . and that respect gave us room for progress. and after i had served here for six years my party finally became the majority. emile jones became the president of the senate. and by then i had made some friends across the aisle, like kirk doe her, who i believe is here today, we were able to pass the first serious ethics reform in 25 years. and working closely with law enforcement who knew by then that we cared about cops and sheriffs and prosecutors and working with folks like john kullerton we passed illinois's first racial profiling law, which was good for police officers and minority communities. and because someone like my friend john bowman, who worked at the shriver's center on poverty line helped us build coalitions across the state, including with business, and was able to then reach out to republicans, we were able to
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increase tax credits for the working poor and expand health insurance to children in need. and we wouldn't ben on our most deeply held principles but we were willing to forge compromise inside pursuit of a larger goal. we were practical when we needed to be. we could fight like heck on one issue and then shake hands on the next. somebody like jesse white, you know, was able to travel around the state and people didn't even know what party he was necessarily from because he bought so much joy with the tumblers and the work that they were doing. so i want you to know that this is why i've always believed so deeply in a better kind of politics. in part, because of what i learned here, in this legislature. because what i learned traveling across the state visiting some of your districts before i was running statewide, before i was
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a u.s. senator, learning all the corners of the state, this most representative of states, a state of small towns and rich farmland and the world's greatest city, a microcosm of america where democrats and republicans and independents and good people of everiety ethnici and every faith shared bedrock values. i saw a story the other day if you rank all 50 states across education levels and household incomes and race and religion the one state that most closely mirrors america as a whole is illinois, this state. and i learned by talking to your constituents that if you were willing to listen, it was possible to bridge a lot of differences. i learned that most americans aren't following the ins and outs of the legislature
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carefully. but they instinctively know that issues are more complicated than rehearsed sound bytes, that they play differently in different parts of the state and the country. they understand the difference between realism and idealism, the difference between responsibility and recklessness. they have the maturity to know what can and cannot be compromised and toed a met the possibility that the other side just might have a point. and it convinced me that if we just approached our national politics the same way the american people approached their daily lives, at the workplace, at the little league game, the church for the synagogues, with common sense and a commitment to fair play and basic courtesy, that there is no problem that we couldn't solve together. and that was the vision that
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guided me when i first ran for the united states senate. that's the vision i shared when i said we are more than just a collection of red states and blue states, but we are the united states of america. and that vision is why nine years ago today on the steps of the old state capitol just a few blocks from here i announced my candidacy for president. now, over these nine years, i want you to know my faith in the generosity and the fundamental goodness of the american people has been rewarded and affirmed over and over and over again. i've seen it in the determination of auto workers who have been laid off but were sure they could once again be part of the great iconic american industry. i've seen it in the single mom who goes back to school even as she's working and looking after her kids because she wants a better life for that next
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generation. i've seen it in the vision and risk taking of small businessmen. i've seen it time and time again in the courage of our troops. but it's been noted often by pundits that the tone of our politics hasn't gotten better since i was inaugurated. in fact, it's gotten worse. there is still this yawning gap between the magnitude of our challenges and the smallness of our politics. custom is why, in my final state of the -- which is why, in my final state of the union address, and in the one before that, i had to acknowledge that one of my fewry regrets is my inability to reduce the polarization and meanness in our politics. i was able to be part of that here, and yet couldn't translate
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it the way i wanted to into our politics in washington. and people ask me why i've devoted so much time to this topic. i tell them it's not just because mime' president and the polarization and the gridlock are frustrating to me. the fact s we've gotten a heck of a lot done these past seven years, despite the gridlock. we saved the economy from a depression. we brought back an auto industry from the brink of collapse. we helped our businesses create $14 million new jobs over the past six years. we cut the unemployment rate from 10% to 4.9%. we covered nearly 18 million more americans with health insurance. we ignited the clean energy revolution. we got bin laden. we brought the vast majority of our troops home to their
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families. [ applause ] our -- we got a lot done. we're still getting a lot done. and our political system helped make these things possible. and the list could go on. there's no doubt america's better off today than when i took office. [ applause ] so -- so -- so i -- i didn't want this to be a state of the union speech where we had the standing up and the sitting down. come on, guys, you know better than that.
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[ laughter ] [ applause ] but this will -- no, no, no. i've got a serious point to make here. i've got a serious point to make here because this is part of the issue, right? we have an importation of our politics nationally, and on cable and on talk radio, and it seeps into everything. the point i'm trying to make is, i care about fixing our politics not only because i'm president today, or because some of my initiatives have been blocked by congress. that happens to every president. it happens to every governor. happens to everybody who participates -- anybody who participates in democracy. you are not going to get 100 pr of what you want all the time. the reason this is important to me is next year i'll still hold the most important title of all. and that's the title of citizen. and as an american citizen, i
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understand that our progress is not inevitable. our progress has never been inevitable. it must be fought for, and won, by all of us. with the kind of patriotism that our fellow illinoisaned a laid stevenson once describe not as a short outburst of emotion but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime. it requires citizenship, and a sense that we are one. and today that kind of citizenship is threatened. by a poisonous political climate that pushes people away from participating in our public life. it turns folks off. it discourages them. makes them cynical. and when that happens, more
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powerful and extreme voices fill the void. when that happens, progress stalls. and that's how we end up with only a handful of the lobbyists setting the agenda. that's how we end up with policies that are detached from what working families face every day. that's how we end up with the well connect who had publicly demand government stay out of their business but then whisper in its ear for special treatment. that's how our political system gets consumed by small things, when we are people that are called to do great things. to give everybody a shot in a changing economy, to keep america safe and strong in an uncertain world, to repair our climate before it threatens everything we leave for our kids. so that's what's on my mind as i
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come back to illinois today. this is what we will a focus of mine over the course of this year and beyond. what can we do, all of us, together, to try to make our politics better? and i speak to both sides on this. because all of you know it could be better. and all of you would feel prouder of the work you do if it was better. so first let's put to rest a couple of myths about our politics. one is the myth that the problems with our politics are new. they are not. american politics has never been particularly gentle or high minded. especially not during times of great change. as i mentioned when i visited a mosque in maryland last week, thomas jefferson's opponent
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tried to stir things up by suggesting he was a muslim. so i'm in good company. [ laughter ] but that's nothing compared to the newspaper which warned that if jefferson were elected, murder, robbery, rape, adullry, and incest will be openly taught and practiced. because vice president eron burr literally killed alexander hamilton in a duel. i don't want to tell you what andrew jackson said about his mama. [ laughter ] lincoln himself was routinely called weak, wishy-washy, a yahoo, an unshapely man. the obscene eight of illinois,
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and my favorite -- obscene ape of illinois, and my favorite a facetious pedi fogger. i don't know what that means, but it sounds insulting. so comparatively speaking, today's not that bad as long as you've got a thick skin. as harold washington said politics ain't bean bag. it's tough. and that's okay. there's also the notion sometimes that our politics are broken because politicians are signature conditionally more corrupt or beholden to big money than they used to be. there's no doubt that lobbyists still have easier access to the halls of power than the average american. there's a lot of work that we need to do to make sure that the system works for ordinary people and not just the well connected.
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that's true at the federal level. that's true at the state level. folks aren't entirely wrong when they feel as if the system too often is rigged and does not address their interests. but relative to the past, listen, i'm confident we've got enough rules and checks to prevent anyone in my cabinet from siphoning whiskey tax revenue into their own pockets like president grant's administration did. until fdr went after the war bosses of tammany hall they controlled judges and politicians as they pleasesed. patronage, bribery, money laundering. it's not as easy as it was to whip up tens of thousands of fan votes, whether in chicago or south texas. from the tea pot dome to watergate, history tells us we should always be vigilant and
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demand that our public servants follow the highest ethical standards. but the truth is, the kind of corruption that is blatant, of the sort that we saw in the past is much less likely in today's politics. and the justice department and the media work hard to keep it that way. and that's a very good thing. we don't want to romanticize the past and think somehow it's a difference in the people being elected. and it also isn't true that today's issues are inherently more polarizing than the past. remember, we endured four years of civil war, that resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead americans. this country was divided on a fundamental question. before pearl harbor, entering into world war ii was a highly charged debate. the fault lines of vietnam, the
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culture wars of the 60s. they still echo into our politics a half century later. we've been arguing since our founding over the proper size and role of government, the meaning of individual freedom and equality, over war and peace and the best way to give all of our citizens opportunity. and these are important debates that everybody should join, with all the rigor that a free people require. my point is, the problem is not that politicians are worse. the problem is not that the issues are tougher. and so it's important for us to understand that the situation we find ourselves in today is not somehow unique or hopeless. we always have gone through periods when our democracy seems stuck. and when that happens, we have fine a new way of doing business. we're in one of those moments. we've got to build a better
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politics, one that's less of a spectacle and more of a battle of ideas. one that's less of a business and more of a mission. one that understands the success of the american experiment rests on our willingness to engage all our citizens in this war. and that starts by acknowledging that we do have a problem. and we all know it. what's different today is the nature and the extent of the polarization, how idea logically divided the parties are. it has brought about by some of the same long term trends in our politics and our culture. the parties themselves have become more homo genius than ever. a great sorting has taken place that drove southern conservatives out of the republican party for the
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moderates out of the democratic party. so you don't have with each party as much diversity of use. you have got a fractured media. some folks watch fox news. some folks read the handcuffington post. and very often, what's profitable is the most sensational conflict and the most incendiary sound bytes. and we can choose our own facts. we don't have a common basis for what's true and what's not. i mean, if i listen to some of these conservative pundits, i wouldn't vote for me either. i sound like a scary guy. you've got advocacy groups that frankly sometimes benefit from keeping their members agitated as much as possible. assured of the righteousness of their colleagues. unlimited dark money, money that nobody knows where it's coming
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from, who's paying, browns out ordinary voices. and far too many of us surrender our voices entirely by choosing not to vote. and this polarization is pervasive. and it seeps into our society to the point where surveys even suggest many americans wouldn't want their kids to date someone from another political party. so some of us don't want our kids dating, period. but -- [ laughter ] that's a losing battle. but this isn't just an abstract problem for political scientists. this has real impact on whether or not we can get things done together.
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shelter on a cold day makes a difference as to the quality of the education kids are getting. this is not an ab track. but so often, these debates, particularly in washington, but increasingly in state legislatures, become abstractions. as if there are no people involved. it's just cardboard cutouts and caricatures of positions. it encourages the kind of ideological field team that rejects any compromise as a form of weakness. and in a big, complicated democracy like ours, if we can't compromise, by definition, we can't govern ourselves. look, i am a progressive democrat. i am proud of that. i make no bones about it. i believe -- [ applause ] i'm going to make another point
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here. i believe the people should have access to health care. i believe they should have access to a good public education. i believe that workers deserve a higher minimum wage. i believe that collective bargaining is critical to the prospects of the middle class and that pensions are vital to retirement as long as they are funded responsibly -- [ applause ] >> hold on a second. [ applause ] hold on a second. sit down, democrats. sit down. sit down. just for a second. i appreciate that, but i want to make this larger point. i believe we're judged by how we care for the poor and the vulnerable. i believe that in order to live up to our ideals, we have to continually fight discrimination in all its forms. i -- [ applause ] i believe in science, and the
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science behind things like climate change, and that a transition to a cleaner source of energy will help preserve the planet for future generations. i believe in a tough, smart foreign policy that says america will never hesitate to protect our people and our allies, but that we should use every element of our power and never rush to war. those are the things i belief. but here's the point i want to make -- i believe there are a lot of republicans who share many of these same values. even though they may disagree with me on the means to achieve them. i think sometimes my republican colleagues make constructive points about outdated regulations that may need to be changed, or programs that even though well intended didn't always work the way they were supposed to. and where i've got an opportunity to find some common ground, that doesn't make me a sellout to my own party.
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that applies -- [ applause ] now, the same -- we'll talk later, duncan. you just sit down. [ cheers and applause ] this is what happens. everybody starts cherry picking. one thing i've learned is folks don't change. ha ha.
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so -- so trying to find common ground doesn't make me less of a democrat or less of a progressive. it means i'm trying to get stuff done. and the same applies to a republican who, heaven forbid, might agree with me on a particular issue. or, if i said america's great decided to stand during a state of the union. it's not a controversial proposition. you are not going to get in trouble. but, the fact that that's hard to do, that is a testament to how difficult our politics has become. because folks are worried, well i'm going to yelled at by here, or this blogger is going the write that. or you know, this talk show host is going the talk about me and some way i've got to challenge her, and calling me a rhino or
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a -- you know, the -- not a real progressive. so when i hear voices in either party boast of their refusal to compromise as an accomplishment in and of itself, i'm not impressed. all that does is prevent what most americans would consider actual accomplishments like fixing roads, educating kids, passing budgets, cleaning our environment, making our streets safe. [ applause ] it cuts both ways, guys.
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suddenly everybody is standing. isn't this fascinating to watch. [ laughter ] point is, it cuts both ways. our founders trusted us with the keys to this system of self government. our politics is the place where we try to make this incredible machinery work, where we come together to selling our differences and solve big problems, do big things together that we could not possibly do alone. and our founders anchored all this in a visionary constitution that straights power and demands compromise. precisely to prevent one party or one wing of a party or one faction or some powerful interest from getting 1 hundr00
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its a. so when either side makes blanket promises to their base that it can't possibly meet, tax cuts without cuts to services, everything will be fine, but we won't spend any money. war without shared sacrifice. we're going to be tough, but don't worry. it will be fine. union bashing, or corporate bashing without acknowledging that both workers and businesses make our economy run. that kind of politics means that the supporters will be perennially disappointed. it only adds to folks' sense that the system is rigged.
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it's one of the reasons why we see these big electoral swings every few years. it's why people are so cynical. i don't pretend to have all the answers to this. these trends will not change overnight. if i did, i would have already done them through an executive action. [ laughter ] that was just a joke, guys. relax. ha ha. a sense of humor is also helpful. [ laughter [ laughter ] but i do want to offer some steps that we can take that i believe would help reform our institutions and move our system in a way that helps reflect our better selves. and these aren't particularly original but i just want to go ahead and mention them. first is to take or at least
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reduce some of the corrosive influence of money in our politics. now -- [ applause ] this year, just over 150 families -- 150 families have spent as much on the presidential race as the rest of america combined. today a couple of billionaires in one state can push their agenda, dump dark money into every state. nobody knows where it's coming from. mostly used on these dark ads. everybody is kind of dark and, the worst picture possible, and there is some ominous voice talking about how, you know, they are destroying the country. and they spend this money based on some ideological preference
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that's disconnected to the realities of how people live. they are not that concerned about the particulars of what is happening in a union hall in galesberg, who folks are going through trying to fine a job. they are not particularly familiar with what is happening in a vwf post -- somebody's phone's on. [ laughter ] in carbondale. they haven't heard personally from farmers outside of the quads or -- and what they are going through. those are the voices that should be outweighing a handful of folks with a lot of money. i'm not saying that folks with a lot of money should have no voice. i'm saying they shouldn't be able to drown out everybody else's. and that's why i disagree with the supreme court's citizen's united decision. i don't believe -- [ applause ] i don't believe that money is speech. or that political spending
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should have no limits. or that it shouldn't be disclosed. i still support a constitutional amendment to set reasonable limits on financial influences in america's elections. but amending the constitution is an extremely challenging and time consumer process, as it should be. so we're going to have to come up with more immediate race to reduce the influence of money in politics. there are a lot of good proposals out there. and we have to work to find ones that can gain some bipartisan support. because a handful of families and hidden interests shouldn't be able to bank roll elections in the greatest democracy on earth. second step towards a better politics is rethinking the way that we draw our congressional districts. [ applause ] now, let me point this out.
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i want to point this out because this is another case of customary picking here. [ laughter ] this tends to be popular in states where democrats have been drawing the lines, among republicans, and less popular among republicans where they control drawing the lines. so nobody is -- [ applause ] let's be very clear. nobody has got clean hands on this thing. nobody's got clean hands on this thing. fact is, today technology allows parties in power to precision draw constituencies so that opposition is packed into as few districts as possible. that's why your districts are shaped like ear must haves or
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spaghetti. it's also how one party can get more seats even when it gets fewer votes. and while this gerrymandering may insulate some incumbents from a serious chall freng the other party, it also means that the main thing those incumbents are worried about are challenges from the most extreme voices in their own party. that's what is happening in congress. you wonder why congress doesn't work? the house of representatives there, there may be a handful, less than 10% of districts that are even competitive at this point. so if you are a republican, all you are worried about is what somebody to your right is saying about you because you know you are not going to lose the general election. same is true for a lot of democrats. so our debates move away from the middle, where most americans are, towards the far ends of the spectrum. and that polarizes us further.
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now, this is something we have the power to fix. and once the next census rolls around, and we have the most up to date picture of america's population, we should change the way our districts are drawn. in america, politicians should not pick their voters. voters should pick their politicians. and that needs to be done across the nation, not just in a select few states. it should be done everywhere. now, the more americans who use their voice and participate, the less captive our politics will be to narrow constituent sees to matter how much undisclosed money is spent, no matter how many negative adds are run, no matter how a district is drawn. if everybody voted, if a far larger number of people voted, that would overcome in many ways
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some of these other institutional barriers. it would make our politics better. and that's why a third step towards a better politics is making voting easier, not harder. and modernizing it for the way that we live now. [ applause ] now, this shouldn't be controversial, guys. you liked the redistricting thing but not letting people vote. i should get some applause on that, too. [ applause ] look -- listen. three years ago i set up a bipartisan commission to improve the voting experience in america. it had the election lawyers from my campaign and from mitt romney's campaign. they got together outside of the context of immediate politics. and i actually want to thank this assembly for moving to adopt some of its recommendations. thanks to the good work of my
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dear friend senator don harmon and many of you there is a new law going into fgt this year that will allow illinoisans to register and vote at the polls on election day. it expands -- expands early voting, something that makes it a lot easier for working folks and busy parents to go vote. think about it, if you are a single mom and you have got to take public transportation to punch a clock, work round the clock, get home, cook dinner on a tuesday in bad weather -- that's tough. why wouldn't we want to make it so she couldn't do it on a saturday or a sunday? how is that -- how is that advancing our democracy? so this law will make a difference. i'm proud of my own state for helping to lead the way. and we know this works. in 2012 and 2014 the states with the highest voter turnout all
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had same-day registration. so today i ask every state in america to join us. reduce these barriers to voting. make it easier for your constituents to get out and vote. and i'd encourage this assembly to take the next step. senator man ar and represent seasontive gable have bills that would automatically register every eligible citizen to vote when they apply for a driver's license. that would protect the fundamental right of everybody, democrats, republicans, independents, seniors, folks with disabilities, the men and women of our military -- it would make sure that it was easier for them to vote and have their vote counted. and as one of your constituents, i think you should pass that legislation right away. i think the governor should sign it without delay. let's make the land of lincoln the leader in voter participation. that's something we should be
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proud to do. [ applause ] let's set the pace. encourage other states across the country to follow our lead. making automatic voter registration the new norm across america. now, just during the course of this talk, it's been interesting to watch the dynamics, obviously. [ laughter ] in part because so much of our politics now is just designed for short-term tactical gain. you know? if you think that adding more voters will hurt you on election day, then suddenly you are not interested in participation. if you think that the gerrymandering is helping you instead of hurting you, then you are not for those proposals. we get trapped in these things.
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we know better. if we were setting up a set of rules ahead of time and you didn't know where you stood, which party you are gonna be in, you didn't have all the data and the poll numbers to tell you what's gonna give you an edge or not, i'd set up a system that was fair, you'd encourage everybody to be part of it. that's what we learned in our civics books. that's how it should work. the fact that we can't do that, that brings me to my last point, which is even as we change the way the system works, we also have a responsibility to change the way that we as elected officials and as citizens work together. because this democracy only works when we get both right. when the system's fair, but also when we build a culture that is
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trying to make it work recently i've been thinking a lot about something a friend of mine, mr. patrick once said to his constituents when he was governor of massachusetts. he said," in cyst from us and from each other a mod couple of civility as the condition for serving you". that's what he told voters. insist on us having a mod couple of civility. i think that's something that all of us as americans have to insist from each other. our children are watching what we do. they don't just learn it in school. they learn it by watching us, the way we conduct ourselves, the way we treat each other. if we lie about each other, they learn it's okay to lie.
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they make up facts and ignore science, then they don't -- they just think it's their opinion that matters. if they see us insulting each other like school kids, then they think, kewell, i guess thas how people are supposed to behave. the way we respect or don't this -- each other as citizens will determine whether or not the hard, frustrating, but absolutely necessary work of self government continues. i have got daughters that are getting older now. and one of the most important things about being a parent, i think, is them just seeing what
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you do not when you are out in public, not when you are dealing with somebody important, but just how do you do -- how do you treat people generally? it makes me much more mindful. i want to live up to their expectations. in that same way, i want this democracy to live up to the people's expectations. we can't move forward if all we do is tear each other down. and the political incentives as they are today too often rewards that kind of behavior. that's what gets attention. so it will require some courage just to act the way our parents taught us to act. it shouldn't. but in this political environment, apparently, it does. we've got to insist to do better
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from each other, for each other. rather than reward those who would disenfranchise any segment of america we have got to insist that everybody arm themselves with information and facts and that they vet. if 99% of us voted, it wouldn't matter how much the 1% spends on our elections. [ applause ] rather than -- rather than reward the most extreme voices or the most divisive language, or who is best at launching school yard taunts, we should insist on a higher form of political discourse in our common life. one based on empathy and respect, which does not mean you abandon principle. rather than tough.
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rather than paint those who disagree with us as motivated by malice. to suggest that any of us lack pay trooem treatism that our fellow americans are not only entitled to a different point of view -- they love this country as much as we do. rather than reward the 24/7 media that so often thrives on sensationalism and conflict we have to stand up and insist reason matters, facts matter, issues are complicated. when folks just make stuff up, they can't go unchallenged. and that's true for democrats if you are a democrat and you make something up. that's true for a republican if you see a republican cross that
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line. rather than accept the notion that compromise is a sellout to one side we have got to insist on the opposite, that it can be a genuine victory that means progress for all sides. and rather than preventing our kids from dating people from other parties -- well, i may have issues about dating generally, but we can trust that we've raised our kids to do the right thing and to look at the qualities of people's character, not some label attached to them. and maybe most of all, whenever someone begins to grow cynical about our politics or believes that their action can't make a difference or it's not worth participating in, we have got to insist, even against all evidence to the contrary that in fact they can make a difference. and in this job of being a citizen of the united states of america, that's a big deal. that's something we should revere and take seriously.
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abraham lincoln wasn't always the giant that we think of today. he liked formal schooling. his businesses and his law practices often struggled. after just one term in congress, his opposition to the mexican-american war damaged his reputation so badly he did not run for re-election. he was denounced as a traitor, a demagogue, an enemy sympathizer. he returned to his law practice and admitted he was losing interest in politics entirely. and then something happened that shook his conscience. the congress effectively overturned the missouri compromise, the flawed and fray jail law that prohibited slavery
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in the north and legalized it in the south but left the question ultimately unsettled. and stunned by this news, lincoln said he had been roused as he had never been before over what it meant for america's future. and so here in springfield, at the state fair, he got back in the game and deliver the first of his great antislavery speeches to a crowd of thousands. and over the next six years, even as he lost two more political races, his arguments with douglas and others shaped the national debate. that's when he uttered those brilliant words on the steps of the old state capitol, that a house divided against itself cannot stand. that this government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free.
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he became the first republican president, and i believe our greatest president. and through his will and his words, and most of all, his character, he held a nation together. and he help free a people. and those victories did not solve all of our problems. he would be attacked at times for the compromises he was prepared to make, by abolitionists and folks from his own side. it would be 100 years more until the law guaranteed african-americans the equal rights that they had been promised. even 50 years after that, our march is not yet finished. but because lincoln made that decision not give up, and not to let other voices speak for him, and because he held in his mind the strength of principle, but
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the vision, the ability to understand those who disagreed with him and showed them respect even as he fought them, because of what he said in motion, generations of free men and women of all races and walks of life have had the chance to choose this country's course. what a great gift. what a great legacy he has bestowed us. and that's the thing about america. we are a constant work of progress. our success has never been certain. none of our journey has been preor dapr preior daned and there is always a gap between our highest ideals and what we witness every day. what makes us exceptional, what
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makes us americans, is that we have fought wars and passed laws and reformed systems, and organized unions and staged protests and launched mighty movements to close that gap, and to bring the promise and the practice of america into closer alignment. we've made the effort to form that more perfect union. nine years to the day that i first announced for this office, i still believe in that politics of hope. and for all the challenges of a rapidly changing world, and for the imperfections of our democracy, the capacity to reach across our differences and choose that kind of politics, not a cynical politics, not a politics of fear, but that kind of politics sustained over the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime, that's something
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that remains entirely up to us. thank you, illinois. good bless you. god bless america. it's good to see all of you. >> thank you for joining us here. we have been watching the president of the united states in his old stomping ground. this is the illinois state capital. this is springfield, illinois. this is the place he chose. he just invoked abraham lincoln as he has many times before. that is the place where abraham lincoln gave his famous house divided speech on the steps of the state capitol. that is precisely where then senator barack obama chose nine years ago to tell the people he would be running for president. he has chosen this day nine years later really to give an address on the state of politics, the state of the presidency, invoking a lot of humor and candor, but also criticism of both parties here, talking specifically about how he says the democracy in this country seems stuck. and said one of the things he
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couldn't do, one of the things he couldn't accomplish, which by the way isn't a new problem, he could not reduce the polarization and meanness in our politics. let's give in gloria borger, former white house press secretary jay carney and cnn's senior political analyst david gergen. so much to chew on david, i'm turning to you first. i defer to you. what did you think? >> brooke i'm awfully glad he gave the speech. it's important to discuss the polarize and the broken nature of our politics. i think he spoke out to everyone especially as he invoked lincoln and the house devices. the president knows full well this will not go down smoothly with everyone there are those who will rise to celebrate as the democrats did in the chamber but that many republicans are going to argue wait a minute you didn't practice what you preached, you never talked to us, never brought us in, never
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compromised and we ended up with obama care not getting a single republican vote, the iranian nuclear agreement, not single republican vote. two single kplishls democrats would say of his presidency. two accomplishments still being argued about on the trail. i was surprised of the forceful rejection of american political relead that voters were giving voice to. it seemed the speech was written prenew hampshire. i liked the speech, but what concretely would you like to see us do and who is leading the charge. >> gloria, i was listening closely -- i want your reaction. in the first couple of minutes he jabbed at the republican telling people listen we shouldn't be calling people fascists and losers before he pivoted back to. so of the points he wanted to make. what did you think? >> i also think -- david is right. while he didn't mention anything
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about last night, he had that reference to losers. and he also made it very clear that he called him a progressive. >> yes. >> which is something we didn't hear from him when he first ran for the presidency. and now he is being criticized as we saw in the exit polls last night from democrats and independents for not being liberal enough. right? and he said, you know i'm a progressive. this is what i belief. and i think he gave hillary clinton something to hang on because as she heads into south carolina and she draws barack obama ever closer because he is her greatest ally, although he's not out there on the trail for her, as she hugs him closer in south carolina, she can say that she endorses barack obama's prog progressive policies while bernie sanders did not in many instances. so i think he gave her a bit of a hook there. >> i was thinking the same thing, jay, on that, he almost seemed to me like he was defining who he believes a democrat is, or at least he as barack obama is a democrat, a
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progressive. talked about just because i can fine common grounds, something we've her from the hillary camp on the trail doesn't make me a sellout to my own party. what did you make of that whole thread? >> i think it's what has been the history of his administration, and the efforts that he undertook to try to get things done with republicans. often without success on deficit reduction and the grand compromise around our fiscal situation and immigration reform. that any time the president put something forward, no matter how moderate it had been prior to his putting his name on it, it became toxic for republicans politically for them to embrace it. and i think that one thing that was very important that he made clear in the speech today is that, you know, we have gotten to where we are today because of the actions of members of both parties. and democrats aren't pure on this and republicans aren't pure on this. and i guess my regret about the
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speech today is that the concrete actions he talked about, that we need to take, especially political reform around our gerrymandering, you know, i wish he had given that speech a number of years ago. it's hard to get people excited about political reform. everybody is for it in theory but very few people vote on it. the way we draw our districts is the most corrosive, direct negative influence on our politics in washington. more than money, more than anything else. if we could fix that, we could fix a lot. >> jay to stay with you, to underscore your point yes solutions being the districts being redrawn. people are moving too far to the right and they should go back to the middle and the modernization of american voting. staying with you, the point gloria was making, how we've seen hillary clinton on the trail bear hugging the president. i'm curious at what point along the springtime primaries do you think we'll officially see the
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bear hug back from the president, that official endorsement? e when. >> i think the president has signalled while still remaining neutral that he supports secretary clinton's candidacy and who prefer to see her as the nominee. he won't officially embrace her unless and until it's clear she is going to be the nominee. i think he is maintaining that traditioner not intervening in a party primary. i don't think there is any doubt he wants hillary to win the nomination and believes she would be the best candidate in the fall and the most effective as president in carrying forward what he has achieved. >> jay carney, thank you very much. gloria, let me ask you and david to stand by as we are getting breaking news in the wake of the new hampshire primary. i can officially tell everyone that carly fiorina is officially dropping out of the race. she just made this announcement here on facebook. apparently she has a specific message to young women, which is -- i'm reading her note now,
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to young girls and women across the country, i say do not let others define you. do not listen to anyone who says you have to vote a certain way or for a certain candidate you are a woman. that is not feminism. gloria borger, and i have david chall onjoining me, david, first. do you want to weigh in on what we are hearing from the fiorina camp. >> clearly, carly fiorina had not in iowa or new hampshire posted any kind of ever a reality to allow her to raise the money necessary going torgt forward to create the organization around here to move forward. what the republicans lose with her exit from the race is one of the most vocal critics of hillary clinton in the republican field. this is how she entered the race and how she conducted herself all the way through was to draw the sharpest possible contrast with hillary clinton and that is
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something that she continually returned to, even when she was being sort of attacked to the center of attention from her fellow republicans. she was always the one that was really trying to take the fight to clinton. >> gloria, to you. your thoughts, and also on this note to girls and women. >> her point was that as a woman candidate it would be easier for her to take the fight to clinton because she wouldn't refrain in certain situations where men might refrain. i think her -- you know, her whole problem was that, a, that wasn't enough. b, she wasn't going to make it on the main debate stage, if the debate stage at all. she had been in the undercard debates. and she had her moments after her first debate. and she wasn't getting any traction. if you look -- you know, her signal today is, all those young women who are endorsing or looking at bernie sanders, fine. just don't vote for a woman because she's a woman.
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i think obviously republicans in many ways see bernie sanders a a much more vulnerable presidential contenter than hillary clinton and they like the fact that sanders is giving clinton a real run for her money here. so there's no love loss between carly fiorina and hillary clinton. >> okay. david gergen wants to jump in. go ahead. >> sure. carly fiorina has lost her campaign but hasn't lost her voice. i think we are going to fine her returning to television studios like this one talking to you about these issues. and by issuing that last final message she is going to be very much in the fray on this argument that matalin at bright and gloria steinham started last week. it appeared to backfire. women said we are a new generation, let us make up our
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own mine. that argument is is going to be important as hillary clinton seeks out the support of women. i think carly fiorina is going the stay in the fray, if you will, even though she doesn't stay in the race. >> interesting. young women say they are not in it for the boys. they say if it's ultimately not bernie sanders, then won't vote. i also happen to have standing by, we're thrilled to have him back on the show, item poe lenty, a former governor in minnesota who ran for president a couple years ago. governanor, welcome back, as we are getting the news on carly fiorina dropping out our response? >> one thing i think voters are looking for is strength. they see that in donald trump, some other candidates. carly had strength. she was want of her strong appeals. she was clear in her messaging but wasn't able to build the organization and get the fund-raising she needed to continue on. i agree with david, she is going to be an important voice but her campaign ends today.
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>> we know chris christie is reportedly, quote, unquote, taking a breath back in new jersey. also questions about dr. carson's campaigns. those are those who finishd lower than everyone else in new hampshire. you know, if you were putting yourself in their shoes would you hang in there or not? >> you can hang in as long as you can money. i think in the case of chris's campaign they were running out of money and he wasn't going to make the debate stage. it comes to a practical end. even before his rubio moment his numbers peaked in november, dipped again and plateaued. so there wasn't any real sign this was catching fire. but he is going to be an incredible leader for the party and i think for another strong voice for many years to come. he has a big future. >> on the rubio moment, which i'm guessing -- i could be wrong, the debate moment, the kamikaze attack as i think charles krou hammer referred to it. he sort of helped take rubio down, but in doing so he went down with it. i'm wondering looking ahead to
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the debate for the republicans on saturday if the other republicans are very aware if they take that same attack, it may not benefit them either. >> i don't think the numbers support that. i think if you look at chris's numbers, peaked in november, plateaued at a certain level. he didn't go down after the rubio clash but didn't go up. he didn't go up with the clash. his problems i don't think were attacking marco rubio. i think his challenge was a couplefold. one is conservatives i think unfairly viewed him as too moderate. so he didn't catch on with conservatives. his brand is i'm the straight talker i'm the bold talker. and when he trump entered the race, he got trumped. somebody bolder, louder, more dramatic got in the race and it discounted chris's bran in that regard. >> david, go ahead. >> don't you think marco rubio is so relieved that chris christie may leave the stage and will not be there for the next debate? >> couldn't their be someone else? >> but christie was a terrific
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prosecutor. made the case. i don't think there is anybody on the stage who could do that as effectively as christie did. >> i'm quoting, the longer jeb -- on jeb bush -- the longer jeb stays in this race the more likely donald trump will be nominated. i know so much of politics is psychological. isn't that some sort of guilt shaming of republicans? you laugh, but is there truth to it? and is that effective? >> as to jeb he has a number assets at the moment. one is as much as people dislike dynastic politics they like the come back story. he was booten down and now he is coming back with empetition. he has a lot of money, he can play out the calendar. no candidate candidate who sees himself or herself as viable is going to drop out until the money dries out. like it or not, jeb is going to continue. i think he has found a stride here. marco had an uncharacteristic lapse in the debate. if you look at his career, he is
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a disciplined communicator. he can claw back and he has enough money to buy himself time to get a second or third look as well. >> let's assume donald trump continues on. my final question to you, looking at -- i think ari flisher put it yes yesterday the muddle in the middle, the case of rubio, krus, bush. who is the best to emerge moving forward. one person, governor, you have to choose, who would then go against trump? >> i think trump is on a roll, cruz is going to be strong in the southeast. assuming it's not trump, i would say of those three kasich has challenge because he doesn't have the resources. he has appeal but he has to raise and spend quickly. jeb has infrastructure and money but limits as a candidate. rubio, i still would say rubio but he is damaged coming out of the debate. >> governor item poe lieutenanty thank you so much. we'll see you again.
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meantime, let me just remind you all as we are chewing on all the political fahder in the wake of new hampshire here, the big one for donald trump, the number two spot for kasich and down along we go, we are watching the see who drops out. we just got word from carly fiorina's camp that she will officially be bowing out of the republican race for that nomination. she released a -- i'm looking at four paragraphs here on our facebook page that she will no longer be participating, although to david gergen's point we may well see her in the wings speaking on the periphery as the race continues. as we talk so much about women in this race, especially young women, even on the democrat side, many young women who have been brought towards bernie sanders because also we've heard gloria steinham, two icons in
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feminism, gloria steinham and madeleine albright recently making comments that have young women back away. fiorina wrote, to young girls and women across the country i say do not let others define you. do not listen to anyone who says you have to vote a certain way or for a certain candidate because you are a woman. she says, that is not feminism. she has been a harsh, harsh critic of hillary clinton. so much more on this breaking story and everything else here as we talk politics. this is the place to be. quick break. i'm brooke baldwin. be right back. ♪
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we're back with the breaking news on carly fiorina's campaign specifically on the republican. we have learned she is suspending her campaign for the position of president. matt schlapp is with me. first to you. good to see you. welcome back. >> great to be here. >> was this a surprise for you to hear this? >> yeah. i mean it's a little bit of a surprise because i know she was raising money at a pretty good clip. she had a plan that would have taken her further. i haven't talked to her since i read about this on facebook.
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so i don't know what her state of mine is. i tell you what, she had a great impact on this race. she is a fabulous communicator, a fabulous leader. i am very, very excited that she's in our party. and i think she still has a great future. >> i think it's important, just to remind our viewers the arc of carly fiorina. we were all signature at the reagan library -- i'm losing track of time now, for our first big republican debate. she was on the main stage because she performed so well at the uncard debate, the first republican debates. there was that. she did spar with several of the candidates, donald trump specifically, that whole face thing. do you think that hurt her? >> no. not at all. i think she always took these moments with a touch of class. you know, and she tried to rise above it. i think you know, the only thing i wish people could have seen more of carly is she is so smart and she's so driven to get her message across that sometimes people didn't get to see what a kind, care, decent funny
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lighthearted person she is as well. and i think the debates give you one dimension to a candidate. but there are so many other dimensions. and i think the more people get to know her they will get to know that side of her, too. >> i'm going to ask you this question, and i want you to answer who do you think epithelial she will throw her support behind. >> i don't know. us about i haven't talked to her. i think she will take her time to think about it. i do not see her throwing her support behind donald trump. that would be a surprise. i think she is going to take a step back and look at the race before she makes her next step. but it's all in her hands, brooke. >> okay. matt schlapp, thank you very much. i appreciate that. we will talk again soon i'm sure. meantime from the republicans now getting more news in from the democrats. hillary clinton expected to go, quote, far more aggressive, end quote, on bernie sanders after she lost to him, double digits
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bottom of the hour. you are watching cnn i'm brooke baldwin n. time when they are desperately seeking to highlight their differences, hillary clinton and bernie sanders both know they're they will not win the nomination without the support of the minority voters. it is a demographic which has been loyal to the clinton campaign but young women in this
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guam demographic have been jumping ship to support bernie sanders. and now news that hillary clinton is planning a far more aggressive approach in terms of this campaign with bernie sanders. let's join rappa fruhar, and back with us, cnn political commentator carl bernstein. awesome having both of you on. carl, so much to chew on. let me begin with this new nugget from the clinton camp, that they plan to go more aggressive on bernie sanders. how much more aggressive do you think they should go? and is that smart? >> well, i think it might not be wise if it literally is to be more aggressive about bernie sanders. she is running a terribly flawed campaign as a terribly flawed candidate. and she has got to find her voice and get her record and her persona out there. it's a great record, i have a lifetime. he has put forth his character,
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his movement, and it's gotten traction. and he's clobbering her. this is an election between the two of them that really is about character and principle. and obama just gave a great speech in which i would think he was saying to both the democrats and the republicans, hey, calm down. let's have a fact-based debate. and right now, sanders has run a campaign that seems to have captured the zeitgeist. and the hillary clinton is really flailing and looking for an opening. and the real opening, i think, is the record of her life. mistakes, excess baggage, all of it. but the distrust question, truthfulness is killing her right now. >> on a capturing zeitgeist point that you are making -- rona we were chatting during commercial, i think as a woman and watching the young women flocking to bernie sanders and
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of course i look at you and think economist, and the young people i talk to love bernie sanders because of what he says about college debt. and it resonates. it's not that hillary clinton hasn't been talking about that and if anything is more pesk about her plans. >> that's the irony. if you look at what she has put out there, how she would regulate wall street, she has put out more detail than bernie sanders. but it comes down to an issue of trust. i think that younger voters in particular, and a lot of working class voters, people that have suffered not just post financial crisis but a couple of decades with stagnant wages, because of her last name, establishment candidates. >> they don't like that. >> they say who is going to change things and fix things. it comes to a trust issue. and on that score, bernie sanders is doing better. >> the exit polls in double
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digits. carl, how does she fix the trust issue moving forward quickly. >> i think she has to acknowledge she has made terrible misjudgments and err errors. particularly, the server. the right wing conspiracy didn't put the server in her closet. she is going to have to get by this thing and going to have to act thoj a terrible misjudgment it seems to me that she has a record of a lifetime. and bernie sanders has a record of a lifetime. and it could be a great debate. sanders has, you know, really defined what this election is about. he and president obama. you know, obama as an amazing legacy. he is the one who has said economic inequality is the issue of our time. he started about the 1% back during the occupy wall street movement. and that's part of his legacy as well. and she has come late to the table in this immediate debate
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show she's always been at the table throughout her whole life. >> but, and i'm staying with you, carl, looking ahead to south carolina, listen arc lot of americans really see bill clinton as the first black president. all the nonwhites voting in south carolina, it is a huge population. won't she be winds in her sails. new hampshire will be long gone, she wins south carolina, and then finns on -- -- [ audio problems ] >> i think we need to stop covering this thing as a horse race with every furlong. this is going to be a long race, all the way through to almost the convention. and i think sanders is going to pick up some block vote. i watched that last night with the independent voters that
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randi kaye did on our network here. and a number of african-americans said oh, well i'm undecided but now i think i'm with been. he has the endorsement of the naacp. he was at core congress of racial equality organizer. he participated in the student sit ins. he is no slouch, but both hillary and bernie sanders come out of a generation that fought for civil rights. sanders is about economic inequality. he had gone way past the ordinary civil rights dialogue, martin luther king, added a little bit of what we're hearing from bernie sanders right now. i would not think this is a gimme. >> to be fair, channelling, talked to ryan fallon in the hillary clinton campaign they would say wait a second, hillary clinton hasn't been twiddling her thumbs. every since she graduated from law school she has been a
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progressive, fighting for women's rights. all of that as well. >> absolutely. she has a great -- hillary clinton has a great record and story to tell about the arc of her life and having been on the side of all the right issues as far as the democrats are concerned, in terms of the liberal vision of america, in terms of her religious wesleyan methodist vision of do all the good you can whenever you can. she has lived it. at the same time, and she is not the demon of the right wing's characterization. but she also has tripped herself up repeatedly by not being transparent, by being secretive, and by seeing herself as a victim. and somehow she's got to get out of -- she wants to be aggressive, it seems to me, she has to aggressively climb her way out and define herself in terms of who she really is and always has been. >> okay. quickly, you want to put a button on that? >> inu i think there is the
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legacy of the 1990s and bill clinton's economic legacy. a lot of that was good. there was good growth under clinton. but there was also a lot of denial deregulation. you know, commodities from deregulated. glass table was pushed back. these are things bernie is bringing up. i think that issue hangs over hillary. she has good ideas. she should clarify. >> ranna, carl, thank you both so much. a reminder to everyone. do not miss the next faceoff between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. they will be in wisconsin tomorrow night for the pbs news hour democratic debate simulcast right here on cnn. 9:00 eastern tomorrow night on cnn and your local pbs station. next, is there room for these two candidates from florida moving ahead in this republican race for president? marco rubio now warning the longer jeb bush sticks around the more likely trump will win. that's bha what we're hearing from a spokesperson in camp
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here's a quote for. south carolina is going to be a blood bath. that is a direct quote from a marco rubio aide following a disappointing fifth place finish in new hampshire under jeb bush. let's go straight to our cnn senior political reporter manu religiona. following the rubio campaign today in south carolina. i know the aide told you that. couldn't the same be reversed in terms of winning or losing against trump? couldn't bush say the same thing? >> absolutely. that's what was such a problematic result from the rubio campaign's perspective from what happened in new hampshire last night. they wanted to be the clear alternative to donald trump and ted cruz. keep this a three person race. now it is a four or five person race. what you are going to see is marco rubio is sharpening contrast with jeb bush and not afraid to take of the to donald trump as well. we spent 44 minutes talking to marco rubio about these issues on the campaign trail today. and he did not hold back when talking about jeb bush and
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donald trump. >> i think there was a question about eminent domain and jeb was bragging about how he did thing in florida on eminent domain. guess who did it? i did that. that was my law. after kiloi passed the law in florida on eminent domain and i put the constitutional law on the ballot. there was talk about common core. we reformed the school curriculum after jeb left office. i reformed the school curriculum. i like dondle. some of it is pretty entertaining. some of it not so entertaining. ultimately the people want to know the person i'm electing do they understand the difference between suny and shia. do they understand the difference between isis and al qaeda? >> in addition to sharpening the contrasts which we're starting to see a little bit more of rubio wants to show more of his personality and of aible said and push on the criticism that
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he is robotic, stiff and rigid. and he made some reference, and made some self deprecating humor when he talk about the debate moment between him and chris christie on saturday. >> rick perry was unable to put his debate in 2011 behind him. >> that was -- >> i know, it was worse. how does your campaign put that behind you? >> well, i mean, there is a big difference. he couldn't remember what he wanted to say. apparently, i remembered it too well. so i don't need to start these fights. but if someone starts one in the the future we will have to point out our differences in our records in a sharper way. >> of course that was a comparison between him and the rick perry infamous debate moment from 20126789 he said it was much different from back then. wouldle' see if this different side of marco rubio continues to take hold on the campaign trail and he can push back on the narrative that he is too scripted. >> coming up next, it could hold
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vital clues about the killers and how they planned the san bernardino attacks. why the fbi, after two months of trying, still cannot break into a cell phone belonging to one of these attackers. that's next. we live in a pick and choose world.
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the fbi is apparently stumped by the san bernardino terrorist phone. the cell phone is still encrypted nearly two months after that attack. that is when a married couple opened fire, killed 14 people. the terrorists were killed in the shootout sometime after by police. still unknown here, did they have contact with terrorists outside of the united states as they planned this attack. let's bring in justice correspondent pamela brown. pamela, just, first, why would the fbi say that they're stumped over this? >> well, in part to bolster the argument, brooke, that we've been hearing from the fbi for several months that encryption is a huge problem, and now you're hearing the director of the fbi, james comey, coming out saying for the second time in recent months that encryption is hindering a terrorism investigation. the first one was in garland, texas, where one of the men had 109 encrypted messages with a
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terrorist overseas. and now comey is saying that one of the cell phones they received from this terrorist couple is encrypted. all of the data on it was automatically scrambled and so fbi technicians aren't able to see what was on that phone, that information could shed light on perhaps who else this couple was talking to, whether they received any direction, whether they were planning any other terrorist attacks, whether something was missed along the way. but because the fbi can't get into that, they're saying this is presenting a huge obstacle for them. however, i should point out, brooke, that they were able to exploit other electronics from this couple, including other cell phones, so they were able to get some information, but director comey is coming out and sending a message to silicon valley saying here we go again where encryption is playing a role and causing problems for us in a terrorism investigation. brooke. >> pamela, thank you. next, he is one of the hottest names in the republican
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race right now. governor john kasich coming in second in new hampshire, running what he calls a positive campaign. we just sat down with him and he is revealing what he will do when his rivals start attacking. (man) hmm. what do you think? ♪ (stranger) good mornin'! ♪ (store p.a.) attention shoppers, there's a lost couple in the men's department. (vo) there's a great big un-khaki world out there. explore it in a subaru crosstrek. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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ohio governor john kasich says he won't sit there like a marshmallow if he's attacked after his big surge to a second place finish in new hampshire. he is in south carolina working hard to convince supporters to vote for him in the polls in south carolina. he will keep his campaign positive unless a rival candidate throws the first punch. he just spoke with cnn's special correspondent, jamie gangel. >> the attack ads are already on the air. >> yeah. >> are you going to hit back? >> well, i'm not going to sit there and be a, you know, a
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marshmallow or some kind of a pin cushion and people just pound me. where i come from, the blue collar town i come from, if you come in and beat our football team, we just broke all the windows on your bus. that's just a joke, by the way. the fact is i'm not going to just sit there and let somebody pound on me. and i can't predict exactly what the future is, but i believe that this message of we can, we're americans before we're republicans and democrats, these problems that we have can be solved, that we can get the shine back in america, you know, leave no one behind. i just think these are very important messages, more than me spending my time being negative about somebody else. >> and that is just a piece. you can watch jamie's full interview with ohio governor john kasich coming up on "the situation room" with wolf blitzer at 5:00 eastern. just a quick reminder to all of you, the dems will be debating tomorrow night milwaukee, 9:00 eastern, on your local pbs
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station and here on cnn. with that, i thank you. i'm brooke baldwin. i'll see you tomorrow. in the meantime we send it to washington. "the lead with jake tapper" starts right now. >> thanks, brooke. i'm back from new hampshire. as donald trump might say, there was so much winning going on. "the lead" starts right now. there will be blood. donald trump moves on to south carolina with ted cruz in his cross-hairs. if you thought the race was chaotic and ugly before, wait until you see the tv ads running today. going national. bernie sanders getting a huge fund-raising bump after his blowout win in new hampshire. can he break through in friendly territory for hillary clinton? determined to attack. the top u.s. security official warning isis could strike inside the u.s. this year. and we may not see the terrorists coming.


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