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welcome, everyone, i'm fredericka whitfield. "newsroom" starts right now. just one week until one of the most influential and contentious republican presidential primaries, south carolina. this is a critical day for the six remaining candidates who will face off in a debate tonight in greenville, south carolina. and as we saw in new hampshire, it could change everything. while all the candidates are no doubt preparing a good offense
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and defense, some are still working their ground game. jeb bush spoke to voters at a diner in greenville this morning. and next hour, new hampshire runner up john kasich will hold a rally in malden, south carolina. let's go to cnn's ryan noble. ryan, south carolina has seen a recent flood of attack ads among republicans. is it expected that this will be another kind of gloves-off kind of debate? >> reporter: well, fredericka, as you mentioned, every single one of these debates have been crucial. tonight should be no different. donald trump, fresh off that win in new hampshire, clearly the frontrunner here in south carolina. that could mean he'll come under attack here tonight. already on the campaign trail this week we've seen jeb bush, marco rubio, and ted cruz find opportunities to go after trump. trump himself has talked about running a more positive
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campaign. but he's still talking about ted cruz's canadian birthplace. he's even suggested he may have to sue cruz over that issue. on the campaign trail, we've definitely seen trump and cruz find opportunities to criticize each other. but for some reason, which they get on the debate stage, they generally play nice. but perhaps that changes tonight. because there is so much at stake here in south carolina, the vote of course just one week away, and most polls show that trump and cruz are running first and second here in south carolina. so fredericka, yeah, there's a good chance that tonight the gloves will come off between these two guys. >> thanks so much, ryan nobles there in greenville. let's talk about what more we might be able to expect from tonight's republican debate in south carolina with two republican strategists, and a donald trump supporter. good to see both of you. the polls show trump has a major lead over cruz in south
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carolina. the evangelical vote is quite influential. are there any occasions that trump could steal cruz's thunder in that area? >> he's been doing pretty well for several months. in the months leading up, at least when he announced nobody expected him to do very well, but he did. this debate will have a couple of different face-offs. trump and cruz will definitely be competing for some of the same voters. they'll go after each other. the ads this week have been pretty amazing. trump has been calling cruz a filthy canadian liar. and cruz has been calling trump a pet ulant, poorly behaved child. >> so much for mr. nice guy. >> exactly. then you may have jeb versus rubio competing to be the alternative. and they may get a little bit more confrontational there. jeb has been hitting rubio on experience. rubio has been going after jeb for having no foreign policy.
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he might go after him on sort of messaging, a legacy argument, saying that in this election, when voters are so mad about the status quo and about the rich and powerful sort of dominating things, you don't nominate the son and brother of a president. maybe there's a new line of attack there. we'll see. >> which makes it very interesting for rubio and bush, caylee, because people have been so angry at the establishment, kind of the professional politicians, we understand it's bush who is going to be working the hardest to try to convey that he's the real establishment guy over rubio. >> sure, exactly. they're vying for that position. we see rubio doing exceedingly well in iowa, better than expected. then you see bush overtaking rubio and rubio kind of faltering, landing in 50 place in new hampshire. this is jeb bush's golden moment. south carolina is his territory. george w. bush won the state. george h.w. bush won the state. if he can push rubio down, he
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can become that establishment candidate. fred, i think you hit on an excellent point. this is an outsider's election. so being the establishment candidate, i'm not sure that that really wins you an election this time around. cruz and trump, you know, look at how well cruz did, cruz did third place in new hampshire in a state he was not supposed to do well in at all. to me that speaks to the fact this is an outsider election. it's not who is more conservative, who is more experienced. it's who is on the outside. >> and the pressure is on all of the candidates, even if you're out in front, but particularly for rubio, coming off that not-so-great debate performance in new hampshire just prior to that primary. so how can rubio convey that he can be more spontaneous and less scripted, as chris christie kept reminding people, "there's that 25-second memorized speech"? >> he's spent all weekend combatting that. he did a sit-down with reporters where he answered every question until there were no more
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questions. he's been taking more questions at rallies from voters and having a more responsive approach as opposed to just, you know, sticking hard core to that stump speech. we'll hear things from him tonight i think that we haven't heard yet. that's going to make that point, because he's coming out on offense. he has been focused so laser-like on being this optimistic candidate, and that's a good thing, but voters also want to see that he's a fighter. and in south carolina, this has been, i don't know, pugnacious to say the least, looking at the ads. part of it is showing you're not going to be afraid of getting into it with hillary clinton. you have to get through the primary first. i would expect him to be a lot more offensive tonight than he has been in the past. >> the issue of immigration is likely to be front and center as well. we know where donald trump stands, although he is still
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pressed on specificity. a "new york times" article says the candidates' outlooks on immigration are split into two camps, one including mr. trump and senator ted cruz of texas favor strict immigration policies that would never grant legal status to undocumented immigrants, and the other, including mr. rubio and mr. bush, who are both trailing in the polls, have not ruled out legal status for people in the country illegally at some distant point in the future. so how will they all be tested on distinguishing themselves on this issue with real specificity? >> i think you're going to see an all-out fight between rubio and cruz, because rubio has insisted on going down this path of trying to paint cruz as weak on immigration, which is foolish. it's like trying to paint mike huckabee as a pro-choice candidate. ted cruz is known for his strong immigration stance, he's known for opposing chuck schumer and marco rubio. i think you're really going to see that distinction there. i also think, as you point out,
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donald trump will be pushed for specificity. i will argue he's given specificity. last week he said his wall will cost $6 billion. so you'll see that. the really important point is i think national security and highway that ties to immigration, because americans are scared. we found out there were 60 isis fighters in europe during the paris attacks. that's an immigration issue. i think you're going to see it tied to national security as well. >> we'll leave it right there. sorry, we're out of time, but we'll see you again a little bit later, we'll pick up from where we left off. of course don't miss cnn's coverage after the debate ton. erin burnett will be applying it down with our political experts starting as soon as the debate ends. you can also hear how the candidates feel about the debate tomorrow morning on cnn's "state of the union." jeb bush and marco rubio will both be on, starting at 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. and breaking news this hour, strong words this morning from
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russia's prime minister, saying the strained relationship between russia and the west could be described as slipping into a new cold war. nato's policy with regard to russia remains opaque. one could go as far as to say we have slid back to a new cold war. we are called one of the most terrible threats to nato as a whole or to europe or to the united states. sometimes i wonder whether it is 2016 we live in or 1962. >> let's talk more about this with cnn contributor michael weiss and cnn international editor nic robertson joining me from munich. nic, put this into context for her us. is this primarily because of of the sanctions imposed by the west? >> reporter: well, russia was coming in for a lot of criticism today.
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just prior to today you had the french prime minister saying that russia is responsible for bombing civilians in and around aleppo in syria and russia needs to stop that. there has been a lot of pressure on russia in the last few weeks over that particular issue and russia continues to bomb those people right now. so we've heard sort of a kickback from the russian prime minister, dmitri medvedev. i was sitting down with the nato supreme allied commander in europe, a u.s. 4-star general, the military man in charge of nato, also the u.s.-european command, he's in charge of that as well, he wears several hats. i said, what about this, calling you, nato, opaque, unfriendly, and slipping towards a cold war. he said, look, opaque? he said, i just don't get that. when nato does military exercises, they're published, everyone knows when they're
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going to happen, not the case in russia. when the russian military does military exercises, they do it near the border. they say russia is changing its posture, russia is not just trying to rewrite the rule book, they're trying to create new rules. he said, russia went into ukraine, crossed an international border, annexed crimea. none of these things stand up to international law. on top of that, nato sees russia developing what's known as antiarea access denial, which are combined air, sea, and land missile systems, all the way from the north of europe, petersburg, crimea, all the way down to where russian forces are in the north of syria. so he said what nato sees,
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russia clustering these a2ad complex military systems in these areas. and they see that as not particularly a friendly gesture towards nato and nato countries. so i said, doesn't that amount to a slippage towards a cold war? he said, look, from our perspective and nato's perspective, we are not trying to head in that direction, but the implication is, across the border, russia is upping these measures, annexing countries and crossing international borders. >> i know we just heard from medvedev there, but some people may not have understood every word he was trying to say with that translation. he says, "you could say even more sharply we have fallen into a new cold war. nearly on a daily basis we are blamed for the most terrible threat to nato as a whole. they make scary movies were
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russia starts a nuclear war. i sometimes wonder whether they are in 2016 or 1962." michael, is that hyperbole? >> i don't think it's hyperbole. i think it's the russian security doctrine of freudian projection. you accuse your enemy of that of which you yourself are guilty. i can't count how many times president obama and the u.s. defense establishment have said in no uncertain terms, we do not want a new coldwar, this is not a zero sum game. the so-called policy where the u.s. procestrated itself to joi russia to combat the taliban, a joint counterterrorism interest. in the last two or three weeks, let's count the number of things russia has done to try and
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detake a bre destabilize europe and combat american interests. russia's most-watched television network fabricated a story in germany alleging a german-russian girl in berlin had been savagely raped by men of arab appearance. the whole thing was bogus, designed to foment social and critical crisis in germany, because angela merkel has been very hawkish on sanctions against russia for, as nic said, an unwarranted annexation of european soil. putin is looking to undermine the european union. george soros wrote that putin is a greater threat to america than isis in the long term. their actions have led to people fleeing aleppo. in southern syria, 150,000
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people are internally displaced. added to which the intervention in syria, which was to go after isis, has actually been strengthening isis, another aspect that doesn't get reported. another pentagon spokesman said only 10% of russia's sorties in syria are going after isis. that means they're going after u.s.-backed rebels. this is designed to undermine and weaken the western position. also, if there's a kind of light motif to it all, it is to make moscow the regional power broker. if you want anything done in this part of the world, you don't go to washington anymore, you go to moscow. that includes a peace deal with bashar al assad, peace talks with cairo, a traditional american ally, that includes an iranian nuclear program. this is a great power in the making again. and i do think that yes, we are
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in a cold wear footing, althoug one of the benefits the kremlin has on its side is the u.s. just doesn't acknowledge it. we pretend we're really not, that this is still a zero sum game and if we accommodate their interests, they'll do the same. >> interesting. thanks to both of you, appreciate it. >> sure. also this just into the cnn newsroom, terror organization al shabaab is now claiming responsibility for setting off that bomb on a somali airliner. you might recall this scene right here, the bomber falling to his death after the explosion blew a hole in the plane. al shabaab admits the bombing didn't go as planned. the attacker snuck in a laptop rigged with military grade tnt but it didn't cause a catastrophic explosion because it was set up before the plane reached cruising altitude. only two people were injured. the pilot was able to land
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from mexico city. rosa, the pope has been spending a lot of time with latin american countries. why is it so important for him to do this? >> reporter: he is a pope that likes to evangelize from the peripheries. not just geographically, but where there is pain and people are suffering, and where there is ill. mexico is one of those places. it's also the country that has the second largest catholic community. and every pope, you know, has had fun in mexico when they come here, because it's a very warm crowd, they love their popes. you saw the welcome ceremony last night with lots of people, lots of love, lots of music, mariachi music. pope francis wore a mariachi hat, the crowd went wild. but pope francis has said he's not here to cure every ill.
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he wants to be here with the people. he wants to make sure that they receive his message. one of the big questions will be, will he bring some tough love? pope francis is the pope of mercy and sometimes of tough love, calling the unfetterred pursuit of money the "dung of the devil." >> translator: our house is going to ruin. and that harms everyone. >> reporter: now that he's visiting mexico, he's expected to arrive with a holy dose of some of that tough love. one of his targets could be drug traffickers when the pope visits a city in the heart of cartel territory. in mexico, the drug-related death toll more than 80,000 in the past nine years. in a recent video message to a group of mexicans, the pope
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encouraged them to fight against corruption, drug trafficking. against organized crime and human trafficking. during the pope's visit to brazil in 2013, he blasted narcos, calling them dealers of death. some of his tough love could be pointed toward the united states when he speaks of immigration. during his speech before the u.s. congress, francis said immigrants should be welcomed. but gop frontrunner donald trump vows to build a wall. >> i will build a great, great wall. >> reporter: and overlooking the existing wall dividing mexico and el paso, texas, is where pope francis plans to celebrate mass. >> what the pope will be saying is, look, a wall is a symbolic message that people are not
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welcome. and that's not what our constitution or history says at all. >> reporter: francis is visiting juarez, a suburb of mexico city, areas where women are being brutally targeted. >> the number of women who have lost their lives, been abused, disappeared, it feels like a civil war. >> reporter: and as the war rages on, the pope says he wants to be an instrument of peace in mexico. and in very much pope francis fashion, he is also visiting the poor, the sick, and the youth. fred, we know that he just lights up with the youth. we saw him in brazil saying that he wants them to be out in the streets, to have a ruckus, to have fun, to enjoy in christ. so we're going to have to see what he tells youth in mexico. but i think he's going to have a
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good time. he always does. >> and rosa, it seems mutual, he lights up, they light up, and there are beautiful images of you and he. you had your own special private moment with the pope. i might say that, you know, i was seeing little hearts, you know, bursting with you guys too, and just seeing how much joy it meant to have that kind of contact. so explain how that happened. >> reporter: yes, so when we traveled with the pope on the papal plane, every journalist gets to meet him one on one. most of the journalists bring a little gift or token for the pope. this time, as you know, this is the second time i meet pope francis, so this time i wanted to share it with others. the first time i met him, it was very personal. this time i wanted to share it with others. i want to a school in chicago and asked the kids to write letters to pope francis. and they were just so excited, fred, to do this. and i was so excited to share
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this moment with them. and so i gave him more than 200 letters from st. mary's star of the sea school in chicago. i was carrying quite a bag of letters. but he saw them when he said they're beautiful. so he was very excited to read them. i'm going to follow up with him to see if he reads them. >> that's right, you better follow up. something tells me he probably will. he just seems very genuine and very genuinely touched by people and the efforts that they make to try to reach him. so you were the vessel, you were the conduit in which to make that happen. that was so sweet, rosa. thanks for sharing that with us. we appreciate it. you had your hand on his shoulder, like oh, we're old friends now. >> reporter: we're besties. coming up next, cnn is
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will need time to work. an agreement was hammered out this week to have all sides agree to a, quote, cessation of hostilities within a week. some critics say the agreement could actually intensify fighting in the days leading up to it. speaking in berlin this morning, secretary kerry defended the decision to wait a week. >> why a week, why not yesterday? for the simple reason that the modalities have to be worked out. and for the simple reason that people have to be communicated to in order to not have it start with failure. this will apply to any and all parties in syria with the exception of terrorist organizations daesh and al nusra. >> one of the biggest obstacles to the cease-fire could be syrian leader bashar al assad. he vowed friday to retake the entire country from syrian rebels. right now his forces are continuing their assault on the rebel-held city of aleppo, already retaking some of the northern suburbs.
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the syrian army is also getting ready to move on raqqah provi e province, a stronghold against isis. the government has been moving against isis positions for months now since it took over back in 2014. russia has promised to keep bombing isis positions throughout the beginning of the cease-fire. as the battle incidentensifn the outstirts kirts of aleppo, reporter was given access to the front lines where syrian forces are battling rebels. >> reporter: years of urban combat have laid waste to aleppo's old town. we're right on the front line in the syrian government's offensive against the opposition. the soldiers here tell us they
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still frequently see rebels on the other side but they also say they often pick them off from the snipers' nest. the soldier tells me morale has never been higher. "thanks to god, everything here is under control," he says. "our fingers are on the triggers ready to destroy the rebels." bashar al assad's forces have made major gains while the opposition rebels say they're simply being slaughtered. for years this battlefield was in a stalemate, the front line right around aleppo's ancient citadel. as war planes hover overhead, the commander knows who to thank for the new-found momentum. "it's only a matter of months now until we win," he says, thanks to russian support we will defeat the rebels.
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tourists from all over the world used to flock to the old town before it was engulfed by syria's brutal war. the old town of aleppo is a union he unesco heritage site. now much of it is burned out and destroyed. now assad's troops believe they're on the verge of a decisive victory. the commander warns the u.s. not to interfere. "we are steadfast," he says. "we are determined to win and we're loyal to president assad." amid this divided and destroyed city, syrian government forces believe they're dealing a crushing blow to the opposition, one that could end this five-year civil war that's destroyed so much more than just the landscape. fred pleitgen, cnn, aleppo. next, hillary clinton and bernie sanders in the last minute campaign push to clinch support before south carolina. plus i'm talking to the
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the democrats are campaigning in nevada today where that state's democratic caucus takes place in a week. bernie sanders will launch his effort in reno and hillary clinton will be in ehenderson. cnn is learning clinton's super-pac is launching a $4.5 million effort into gaining more minority voters in south carolina. this was funding originally reserved for the general election. joe johns, how are the tea leaves being read here? is the clinton campaign kind of
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sweating? >> reporter: it's not clear at all, because of course super-pacs aren't supposed to coordinate, if you will, with the candidate. nevertheless, this super-pac was formed to help president obama, and now is helping secretary clinton. it's making a big move in south carolina, $4.5 million, to focus on latino voters, women voters, minorities, also about a half a million dollars for a radio ad to tie hillary clinton to the obama legacy. so what does that tell us? number one, it tells us that her friends are concerned about her after that narrow win in iowa as well as the big loss in new hampshire. and as you said, fred, the other thing that's very interesting about this is that priorities usa was expected to keep its powder dry, if you will, and
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save the money for the general election. hillary clinton in that last debate just a couple of days ago actually talked about a bit about the super-pac, also dismissively, if you will. listen. >> you have said there's no quid pro quo involved. but is that also true of the donations that wealthy republicans give to republican candidates, contributors including the koch brothers? >> i can't speak for the koch brothers. you're referring to a super-pac that we don't coordinate with, that was set up to support president obama, that has now decided they want to support me. they are the ones who should respond to any questions. let's talk about our campaigns. >> reporter: while this helps the clinton campaign financially, there is also a potential downside, because bernie sanders has been focusing so much about the amount of
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money in politics. and he says he doesn't take super-pac money. so this can be a continuing debate. and it could be a very long debate, considering the fact that hillary clinton is having so much trouble with bernie sanders right now, fred. back to you. >> all right, there if hender n henderson, nevada, with clinton, joe johns, thanks so much. we'll be right back. wiback like it could used to? neutrogena hydro boost water gel. with hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin. hydro boost. from neutrogena
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hillary clinton is not the first progressive democratic woman to run against senator bernie sanders. in the mid-1980s, sanders ran for governor of vermont against madeleine kunin who was running for her second term is a democrat when sanders ran as a third party candidate. sanders didn't do so well, getting just 14% of the vote. governor kunin was easily reelected. former vermont governor madeleine kunin joins us with insight on what it is like to run against bernie sanders. thanks for being with us. >> well, thank you. i'm delighted to be with you. and of course, you know, he was a young man then. and he gave the same message,
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though, in terms of income inequality. he's toned down a whole lot. i mean, then he was frankly a fringe candidate, and the message of income inequality today resonates more. but he had similar body language. and he probably didn't have the same haircut or the same suit. >> so his message resonates more in terms of income inequality, yet you are endorsing or at least behind hillary clinton, is that right? >> absolutely. >> why is that? >> well, i will be, very simply put, she is by far the most qualified candidate, male or female, to lead this country for the next four or eight years. and in addition, but not the only reason i stress, i'm very proud that she could be the first woman president of the
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united states. and that's something many of us have dreamed about. and she could make it a reality. but i really think she has the intelligence, the experience, the temperament to be in the white house and be an expert on foreign policy, be an expert on economic policy. and admittedly, her style is different from bernie's. i think part of that is that women are held to a different standard. you know, if she becomes emotional or she waves her arms, people say, oh, she's shouting. when a man does that, he's considered powerful and strong. and even authentic. so i think, you know, the word "revolution" is very attractive. in a way i'm very glad that so many young people are involved in politics and so many women. and i hope they stay involved.
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but that's a big accomplishment of bernie's, that he's done that. but you have to ask the next question, which is, how are you going to get it done, how are you going to get results? revolutions don't happen overnight. the suffrage amount, the right for women to vote, took a hundred years. even the lgbt movement has taken 30 or 40 years. those are huge accomplishments. i hope the voters know that you don't get immediate results. this is not a quick process. but i'm glad we're beginning to talk about it. but i also think hillary has the know-how to say yes, we need to create change and this is we're we're going to do it. her plan isn't as exciting. >> i wonder what your thoughts are on atlanta's mayor who had
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some criticism of bernie sanders, saying he thought he was too dismissive of president obama as it pertains to income inequality and health care, as if no groundwork had been made on those issues with this president. how would you -- or do you see it that way, that bernie sanders is being dismissive of the current president? as it pertains to those things. >> i don't know if dismissive is the right word. certainly hillary has a great allegiance with barack obama, because they worked together. obviously she is secretary of state and he had great confidence in appointing his former opponent. and she has done a superb job. so being a democrat is not new for hillary. working with a president and with former presidents is not new for hillary. so i think president obama's
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achievements are huge in terms of the health care system, obamacare, in terms of climate change. he's been fighting for these things. >> so you think it's smart that she would run on those issues and praising president obama, and reminding reminding people that yes, she served under president obama. >> i think it is wise. but of course she has to put her own agenda out there as well. so her theme is i am going to build on what the president has achieved and here's the way i'm going to do it. so incremental change as we know it is not as thrilling as a revolution. incremental change is how this country has always experienced change and achieved change. >> former vermont governor
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madeline kunin. pleasure talking to you. >> my pleasure, too. moving to another big story of the day, emotional, raw interview from the mother of dillon klebold. hasn't said much since the massacre in the past 17 years. now what she wishes she had done differently. that's next. basketball hall of r dominique wilkins are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza®. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar. but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza®. he said victoza® works differently than pills. and comes in a pen. victoza® is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c. it's taken once a day, any time. victoza® is not for weight loss, but it may help you lose some weight. (male vo) victoza® is an injectable prescription medicine that may improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. it is not recommended as the first medication
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welcome back. it has been nearly two decades since two students opened fire in a colorado high school cafeteria. 12 students were killed along with one teacher. the shooters, eric harris and dylan klebold also considered children and injured 21 other people. we heard very little from the shooters' families until now. dylan's mom sue just sat down with diane sawyer. here's what she had to say in her first television interview since that attack. >> sometimes he would seem, you know, distant or quiet and i remember asking him are you okay? are you sure you're okay, you seem so tired. he would stand up and say i've got a lot of homework, i need to go to bed. >> and you let it go. >> and i let it go. that's the difference. i would dig, if it were me today, i would dig and dig and dig. i mean, i had all those illusions that everything was okay because -- and more than
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anything else, because my love for him was so strong. i felt that i was a good mom, he could talk to me about anything. part of the shock of this was learning what i believed and how i lived and how i parented was an invention in my own mind. >> that's incredible, that kind of taking of responsibility for sue klebold there, ahead of releasing her book, a mother's reckoning. let's talk with psychologist eric fisher about this. she breaks her silence after 17 years. for her to say that, that really it became a more reflective moment for her, too, of things that perhaps she could have done better, how she may have enabled this to happen. >> we have to recognize there are a lot of cautionary tales for parents today. all of the dynamics are there in culture and then some that we have to look at. however, what i want parents to do is not parent children from the standpoint, oh, my gosh, i
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have to prevent my child doing this or thinking my child would never do this, give your child the love, attention and help them fulfill the needs they have because we love them and they deserve that, not from a place of fear. often our kids feel at times our motivations even if they aren't obvious or out there. >> this is what she had to say about the other victims. >> i just remember sitting there and reading about them. all these kids and the teacher. and i keep thinking, constantly thought how i would feel if it were the other way around and one of their children had shot mine. i would feel exactly the way they did. i know i would. i know i would. >> why do you suppose for her personally this was the moment and this was important for her
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to share publicly? it is one thing to come to terms with all of this privately, but it is another to share it with the world and what was really the most memorable, biggest kind of school shooting massacre that any of us had ever experienced in this country. >> right, and still to this day. so again, what she recognizes is to me, there is a moral responsibility for us all, her being in her position of being firsthand of that, but for us all to see that we are responsible for collective raising of our children, whether we are part of the media or game creators, part of cartoon and animated series creators that sell the idea that violence is okay, but when we participate in it and are part of it, it is that much more important to communicate our lessons and be part of the solution, not let the problems continue because we feel afraid how people might respond or react. this will bring up a lot of feelings in people. what i hope is that the emotions
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it brings up is the necessary need for us to see that we as a community are responsible for the message that our children receive and how they grow up and the culture that we have allowed to occur. >> painful as it is, it becomes very generous that she, a parent grieving and dealing with that would leave that for other parents as they raise their kids and keep these top of mind. eric fisher, good to see you. appreciate it. >> thank you. we will be right back. ♪ but i can't come home right now... ♪ ♪ me and the boys are playing.♪. ♪ ... all nig♪t text beth, what can i do... [siri:] message. pick up milk. oh, right. milk. introducing the newly redesigned passat. from volkswagen.
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a look at our top stories. the fbi is working with police in columbus, ohio to determine the motive of a man that went on a rampage with a machete in a restaurant. police are investigating it as a possible lone wolf terror attack. four people were injured, including one man in critical condition. police shot and killed the 30-year-old after a car chase. the


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