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phil. >> reporter: miguel and cristina. a day filled with political clashes. ted cruz against marco rubio. ted cruz against donald trump. donald trump against the pope. >> i don't like fighting with the pope. i don't think it is a fight. he said something much softer than originally reported by the media. he is doing a good job. a lot of energy. i would say that i think he was very much misinterpreted. i think he was given false information. if he would have heard our side. people that live in the united states. >> would you like to meet with him? >> i'll do it anytime. >> reporter: trump just one day after sending a cease and desist letter to cruz's campaign saying he would do the same to other countries. >> as president, would you send cease and desist letters? >> yeah. maybe to china. to china to stop ripping us off. to other countries to stop ripping us off. i would send them to mexico.
when i say cease and desist, maybe the equivalent. >> reporter: jeb bush saying the talk of his campaign failing is premature. >> i do have momentum if you look at the polls and crowd sizes of town hall meetings. >> reporter: and taking on criticism. >> you will note, introverts set goals and grind. they go at it. which is a pretty good thing to be when you are running for president and written off over and over. >> reporter: john kasich hours after his poignant moment on the campaign trail continued to push positive campaigning and community. >> you have to celebrate other people's wins and sometimes you have to sit with them and cry because that's what we need in this country. >> reporter: all three have one more day of campaigning in south carolina. for donald trump, all things look like they are on a glide path, but now it is urgent,
especially for jeb bush who staked his campaign on a big performance in the state. for john kasich, it is momentum after the second place finish in new hampshire. cristina and miguel. >> thank you, phil. joining us to cut through the political jungle. we have colleen mccain nelson. thanks for watching the debate and now being live with us. you're the machine. a junkie. >> i was up all night thinking about this. >> oh, good. don't think too much. we are barely awake. one of the toughest moments is when a voter asked trump about taking on bush over his -- trump knocking bush over the iraq war. i want to play that for you. it got testy.
>> one more chance. you believe he either lied or did not lie. are you willing to say? >> i don't know what he did. it was a mistake. >> are you saying it was a mistake? >> i don't know. i would have to see the tape. i don't know why he went in. i don't know why he went in. >> one would say he was walking back his remarks from the first debate in south carolina. he jumped in the car and reversed it and speeding back. >> he would not repeat the word lie. he said, i'm not saying lying, i'm not saying not lying. then anderson read his words back to him. he said actually you did say he lied. even when confronted with his own words, he just side stepped the question. he made it a point to not repeat that word. clearly he had second thoughts about what he said. he didn't ever express regret or
apologize for what he said. >> one thing that was interesting to me is jeb bush seemed to break from some republicans in the party who do not want president obama to nominate a new supreme court justice. here's what he had to say about that specific question. >> would i nominate someone? i probably would because as i said in the debate last saturday, i'm an article ii guy. i think the presidency, we should be respectful of the constitution. whatever powers afforded the president, we should use them. >> what do you think of those comments? >> that was fascinating. other republicans are saying obama shouldn't nominate someone. they are criticizing obama for trying to use his power. it is a tough argument that republicans are trying to make when they say well i would nominate someone, but president obama should not just because the atmosphere has become so
toxic and partisan. that is what the other republicans are saying. they should be able to nominate in their fourth year, but president obama should not be able to do that. >> you have been following this all along. this town hall format is different from a debate. you get the long form and talking. you know the candidates so well and know all of the stump speeches. what popped out to you? >> it was a humanizing evening for the candidates. particularly for john kasich because in the debates he is overshadowed. he doesn't jump into the fray and he really says i want to stay positive and not fight with the other republicans. so for a lot of viewers, i think this was the first time they have seen an extended version of john kasich. they got to see a very different brand of republicanism from him.
we saw him hugging the voter yesterday. that was a touching moment. he talked with anderson cooper about the death of his parents and the dark place he found himself in and found the lord. it was particularly regulatory for people. >> we will see if it plays well in greenville. >> switching to democrats. hillary clinton and bernie sanders faced off last night. hillary got a negative response to something she said. she was talking about sanders and how he's been so critical of former president bill clinton and obama. here's the response. >> i just don't know where all this comes from because maybe it's sanders wasn't a democrat until he decided to run for president. he doesn't know what the last two democratic presidents did. you know what? well, it's true. it's true.
you know it's true. >> do you think that response was the people in the room or do you think that kind of negative campaigning doesn't play well on that side of the campaign at this point? >> does she have a problem in nevada? >> she is facing a close race in nevada. i think that is what you are seeing in that room. she expected to have nevada be the proof of her strength nationally. this was going to be the first test of the so-called clinton firewall. all of a sudden, she is in a close race in nevada. her campaign is walking back statements saying they are far ahead in nevada. saying we might win. we might not win. nevada is not as diverse as some of the states on the schedule. all of a sudden, it is down to the wire in nevada. >> colleen mccain nelson, all cheers for you. no boos. thank you very much. >> thank you.
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i say only that this man is not christian if he has said things like that. >> now trump immediately slammed il papa's remarks saying no religious man should have the right to question someone's religion. we have cnn's rosa flores in rome for us. when he does the international trips and on the plane ride back, he unloads after thinking about all this stuff. what was it like in that moment? what did you take away as he was saying this? >> reporter: miguel, you know pope francis doesn't shy away from topics. the famous who am i to judge quote. in south america, the unfettered
pursuit of money is the dung of the devil. in mexico, you have been speaking about immigration. across the borders is a very important presidential election. the gop frontrunner is vowing to build a wall and vowing to deport illegal immigrants. would you tell people to vote or not vote for this man. pope francis said i can't tell anyone to vote or not vote. i can tell you this, someone who speaks about building walls rather than building bridges is not christian. now the question was in italian. pope francis answered in italian. he mentioned not christian twice within that question. miguel, the other thing that is important, pope francis never uttered trump's name. his name was in the question. he was asked about trump and he spoke generically saying that someone who speaks about building walls rather than bridges is not christian.
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stage. we're breaking down the big moments. welcome back to "early start." i'm cristina alesci. >> i'm miguel marquez. it is 5:29. taking on the tough questions from the south carolina voters in the cnn town hall event. kasich on whether his message works for an angry electorate and trump challenged on his fight with the pope after the pontiff questioned his stance on immigration. cnn's phil mattingly has it all from south carolina. >> reporter: miguel and cristina, a day filled with clashes. ted cruz and marco rubio. jeb bush versus marco rubio. ted cruz versus donald trump. donald trump versus the pope. >> i don't like fighting with the pope. i don't think it is a fight. i think he said something softer than reported by the media. a lot of energy.
i would say that i think he was very much misinterpreted. i think he was given false information. if he would have heard our side. people that live in the united states. >> would you like to talk to him about it? >> it would be interesting. i like him. >> reporter: trump one day after sending a cease and desist letter to cruz's campaign saying he would do the same to other countries. >> as president, would you send cease and desist letters? >> maybe to china. i would send them to china to stop ripping us off. to other countries to stop ripping us off. i would send them to mexico. when i say cease and desist. maybe the equivalent. >> reporter: jeb bush saying the talk of his campaign failing is premature. >> i have momentum if you look at the polls and crowd sizes of our town hall meetings and enthusiasm that exists. >> reporter: and taking on criticism of being an introvert. >> you will appreciate this.
int introverts set goals and grind. that is a pretty good thing to be. >> reporter: john kasich hours after his most poignant moment on the campaign trail continued it push community and positive campaigning. >> you have to celebrate other people's wins and sometimes you have to sit with them and try because that's what we need in this country. >> reporter: all three have one more day in south carolina. donald trump, all things look like they are on a glide path. the moment is urgent, especially for jeb bush who staked much of his future on a big performance in this state. for john kasich, it is about proving the momentum following the second place finish in new hampshire. cristina and miguel. >> joining us right now to dissect the town hall and what
is going on is colleen mccain nelson in our washington bureau. good morning. >> good morning. >> we saw trump go softer in places when it came to the pope and came to calling jeb a liar. all of that. he did not go softer on ted cruz. he kept with the line of suing him over his eligibility and over advertising. take a listen. >> a cease and desist letter. you're not go to sue him? >> i like to send letters. i have wonderful lawyers. i like to send letters. i think wonderful case is whether or not and i understand he got sued today. he will be sued by a lot of people. he will be sued by the democrats if he ever got the nomination, which i don't think he will. if he ever got the nomination. i don't think he has a very good chance of getting it. he was sued today on the fact he was born in canada.
it's a big problem. >> is this a sign that trump is really threatened by cruz that he keeps at this particular point of eligibility and being sued over being born in canada? >> cruz is certainly posing the biggest challenge to trump at this point. you heard donald trump going as you said full board at ted cruz. he said cruz puts his hand on the bible and tells lies. he doesn't hold back when he talks about ted cruz. ted cruz is not likely to win south carolina, but there's polling showing that the race is tightening. cruz is polling closer to trump. there are states ahead that could be tougher for trump. he sees cruz as the biggest threat at this point. he is directing all of his fire at cruz. he still can't help himself. he is still throwing punches at jeb bush for good measure because he thinks it's fun.
he is aiming his punches at ted cruz. >> clearly think aey are lookin the same voters. it was a kinder and gentler town hall session particularly from john kasich who has been in the middle ground. earlier in the day, he was at an event where a voter said he was having problems. they not only hugged. this is not just a man hug. they hugged it out like almost to the point where it was uncomfortable. >> whispering in his ear. >> a sweet moment and telling moment. last night, he addressed his parents and having been killed by a drunk driver. >> at the age of 35, i got a phone call that they wouldn't be able to get home. i went into a black hole with just a pin prick of light. i had people come to me.
i don't care. you don't have to agree with me or like it whatever. it's where i found the lord. i spend 29 years of my life working on that. i'm here to tell people, life is so rocky. it's so fragile. we have to build our homes, our lives, our homes on solid granite. not on sand. i have found that even though the pain still comes, there's where i have to go. >> he seems like such a solid, decent moderate human being. it is so different from everything we see on the republican side. in south carolina, such tough politics. will it play there? >> it doesn't appear that it is playing there. it seems strange when you say he seems like such a solid decent guy. then to say voters don't like that. in south carolina, the republican electorate is very
evangelical. more than half of the voters are expected to be evangelicals on saturday. they're gravitating to ted cruz and donald trump. john kasich certainly did himself good last night. this is a format he is comfortable in on the campaign trail. he does town halls. he loves taking questions from voters. and this was just a revealing moment for him last night. you don't get that from the debates. he is often shouted down during the debates. voters who are not as familiar with the ohio governor got to see his humanity and really it shouldn't hurt to be a decent solid guy as you say. >> all right. colleen mccain nelson, thank you very much. thanks for watching the debate. thanks for staying up for us. thank you for being here. >> the campaign never stops. >> get some more coffee.
president obama and the first lady will pay respects to the late supreme court justice antonin scalia. his body will lie in repose in a few hours in the great hall. in a few hours, the scalia family and the eight remaining justices will hold a private ceremony. the white house defending the move citing security as a major factor for the president skipping the funeral. time for my favorite time in the morning. the dow snapping the three-day winning streak yesterday. futures are slightly up despite a drop in oil. asian markets finished lower. wall street is closing the books on the worst quarter for corporate profits since 2009. the 500 largest publicly traded companies saw a drop of 4% last quarter. sales down 2.5%. energy companies hit hardest.
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>> translator: a person who thinks about building walls whenever they may be located and not bridges is not christian. this not in the gospel. as far as to vote or not vote, i will not get into that. >> now trump immediately slammed the pontiff's remarks as disgraceful saying no religious leader quote, should have the right to question another man's religion or faith. cnn's rosa flores joins us from rome. what did the pope say on the flight back? >> reporter: good morning. context is very important as you know, cristina. here's how that question was posed to the pontiff. a journalist on the plane asked him, you know, you have been speaking very eloquently about
immigration in mexico, but you know just across the border, there is a very important presidential election going on. the gop frontrunner donald trump vows so build a wall. he vows to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. the actual question to the pope was this, would you recommend for american catholics to vote for this man and then we see the response from pope francis saying i wouldn't tell anybody to vote for not to vote for this man, but here is what i can tell you. the pontiff saying that someone who vows so build walls is not christian. this answer was in italian. the question was in italian. the pope mentioned not christian twice within that answer. cristina, it is also important to note that pope francis didn't say donald trump's name. he wasn't exactly pointing the finger at donald trump. he was speaking generally anyone
who speaking of building walls is not christian. cristina. >> really interesting to know that he didn't say trump's name, but he was not afraid to essentially criticize him. thank you, rosa. pope francis weighing in on the zika virus. he says using contraception to avoid pregnancy could be seen as the lesser of two evils in the outbreak. if women are concerned of having children with a birth defect. the pope says abortion is quote absolute evil and not be considered even if a child is born with brain damage. help is on the way for people of flint, michigan. the house of representatives approving $30 million to help residents and businesses to help pay the bills for contaminated water. also thursday, governor rick
snyder, who has been criticized for not acting fast enough, said michigan is getting additional $2 million in state funds to begin replacing lead contaminated pipes as early as next week. in california, officials say an underground gas well near porter ranch that has been leaking since october is now permanently sealed and is safe for displaced residents to return. the socal storage has stopped the leak last week. last month, governor jerry brown declared a state of emergency in the area. no surprise. more silicon valley support for apple and privacy fight with the fbi. facebook is standing by the company which is fighting a court order to help the feds access encrypted data from the iphone from the san bernardino
shooter. the facebook statement saying it creates a chilling precedent. google and twitter come out in support of apple's ceo. tim cook says it threatens the demands of all users. it says the company is prepared to take the fight all the way to the supreme court. now let's take a look at what's coming up with our friends over at "new day." michaela pereira. hello. >> you know how to charm a lady, don't you, miguel? >> well. >> obviously, two big political races shaping up for tomorrow. we have the latest. donald trump well out in front in south carolina where republicans vote tomorrow. he is raising eyebrows, though. once again, walking back on critical comments he made about the pope after a dust-up thursday. how will voters weigh that as they get ready to vote? don't mind chris's hand. he is putting his suit on. we recap the latest town hall and speak with the republican
candidate john kasich. a tighter horse race shaping up for democrats in nevada. hillary clinton and bernie sanders slinging mud. can clinton win another nail biter or will sanders pick up more momentum? >> hi, chris. >> he can't help himself. i raised my eye brows so many times, i pulled a muscle. >> he is falling apart. see you in a bit. >> thanks. the dow's winning streak is over, but it's still up 450 points this week. will it add to that total? we'll get an early start on your money next. i'm here to get the lady of the house back on her feet. and give her the strength and energy to stay healthy.
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yet met to work out the final details of the truce. tens of thousands fleeing in northern syria are now stuck at the border which turkey recently sealed. monitor all this increasingly desperate situation for us from london is international diplomatic editor nic robertson. nic, the fighting was ahead of the possible cessation of hostilities. do we expect an abatement or decrease in the level of violence now? >> reporter: yeah, miguel. when you look at it, as soon as you set a deadline in a battle, anyone with a military advantage on the ground, the government and military forces will get everything they get. throw into the kurdish elements. throw into that the free syrian army fighters to move from one
part of syria to turkey and another part to join in the fight. everyone is looking at the deadline and saying we need to hold ground. this is what we want to get. in a way, you can read this as leading to the possibility of ramping up of violence. will it diminish tonight? it kind of seems unlikely because there is not enough diplomatic momentum there. what we are seeing is word from the german foreign minister. i'm hearing from diplomats and nationality diplomats that they expect a meeting in geneva convened by the u.n., chaired by russia and the united states, a task force to talk about the cessation of hostilities. there was a meeting in geneva between u.s. and russian military officials. it is against the backdrop as you say of increased hostilit hostilities. it is not clear anyone is satisfied with the position on the battle field.
therefore whatever is discussed in geneva translates into the diminishment of battle. it seems unlikely. >> sounds like a complex situation only getting more complex and desperate by the hour. nic robertson for us in london. new fears isis may plot to build a dirty bomb. authorities in belgium found a video at the home of the detained terror suspect. a spokesman for the belgium prosecutor's office says it has ten hours of surveillance of a top official. the issue of isis plotting to kidnap to secure the facilities. let's get an early start on your money. dow futures up just a fraction right now after snapping that three-day winning streak yesterday. oil is down. so we have to see if it holds. europe is lower and asia finished with losses. great news for workers.
two developments on the jobs front. have more workers making more money. oregon lawmakers voted to raise the minimum wage statewide. $9.25 an hour currently. over the next five years, wages will increase to $14.75 for workers in portland. other counties and rural areas will get increases as well. and regardless of location, many walmart workers are getting a raise this weekend. 1 million of them. the world's largest retailer will hike wages for almost all of its employees on saturday. that will cost the company $1.5 billion this year. and if you haven't refinanced your mortgage or thinking about buying a home or a closet in the west village, now is the time to do it. the average for a 15-year fixed rate mortgage is now 2.95%.
the 30-year fixed is at $3.65. we have not seen numbers that low in more than a year. mortgage rates are tied to 10-year treasury bonds which say popular safe haven. as stocks stage a recovery, investors could move out of the investments and that will likely send mortgage rates higher. the fed will eventually raise rates again, but it might not happen until later this year or next. i'm going to buy that burned out car in queens. a deal. republicans running for president taking questions from the cnn town hall stage. "new day" starts now! put me down in the pope
column. >> having a wall is not christian. he has an awfully big wall at the vatican. >> i don't think it's appropriate to test donald trump's faith. >> i would be ready to seven as commander in chief. >> going to iraq may have been the worst decision any president has made in the history of this country. >> we will not allow the trumps and the others of this world to divide us up. >> i know what i'm against. >> i do not represent wall street or corporate america. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota, and michaela pereira. >> big kings like the lion king. it is friday, february 19th, 6:00 in the east. we have a lot of news for you this morning. we are just hours away from the
next contest. six republican hopefuls making the final push in south carolina ahead of tomorrow's all-important gop primary. so you have trump, bush, and kasich last night with anderson cooper delivering their closing arguments to voters at the town hall. all overshadowed by pope francis. putting up walls and not building bridges is not what the gospel commands. a razor-tight race going into tomorrow's caucuses. hillary clinton and berne cancer sanders now in a virtual tie. athena >> reporter: good morning, michaela. last night we saw a more demure, toned down donald