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atticus finch. she died in her sleep early this morning and there will be a private funeral service as she requested. if you missed our town halls this week, you can see both tonight starting at 10:00 eastern. right now, "cnn tonight" with don lemon. voters in south carolina about to go to the polls in the primary that could reshape this race. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. the campaigning is fast and furious with gop hopefuls making their final pitches. >> if you elect me president of the united states, you'll never catch me apologizing for america around the world. >> if we elect hillary clinton or bernie sanders or some other socialist, we will see the supreme court lost for a generation. >> you can't say crazy things when you're running for president. you can't talk trash when you are running for president. you have to be mindful of the fact that you are running for a
job that people look up to you. >> you've got to go out and vote tomorrow. i don't want your money. i don't want your money. we want your vote. >> meanwhile, hillary clinton and bernie sanders are neck and neck and hours ahead of nevada's democratic caucus. there's a lot going on on this friday night. hugh hewitt. the host of the hugh hewitt show. it's our friday night date. >> you bet. >> next time maybe some wine or something. that would be great. let's discuss this week's events. president obama, former president george w. bush, the pope, all criticizing donald trump this week. now trump is calling for a boycott of apple. listen to this. >> first of all, apple ought to give the security for that phone, okay? what i think you ought to do is boycott apple until such time as they give that security number. how do you like that? i just thought of that. boycott apple. first of all, the phone is not even owned by this young thug
that killed all these people. the phone is owned by the government. >> he's saying apple should allow, you know, the phones to be opened by the government for the terrorist in san bernardino. is this an unprecedented week in american politics, hugh? >> it really is. each of the five of the six top gop had a good moment this week. donald trump had a very fine town hall last night with anderson cooper. helped by the pope in many respects by putting immigration back up front which is his number one issue. he was quite a performer and has hit on something with this apple issue. i have to disclose. i own apple. i'm an unhappy owner right now. they ought to turn it over. marco rubio getting the nikki haley endorsement. huge deal down there. moreover, a secret weapon. this is news for your cnn viewers tonight. connor shaw who is 17-0. the winningest south carolina -- university of south carolina quarterback in recent memory came out and endorsed marco.
he's also the cleveland browns quarterback. you have that going for him. number 9, connor shaw. they had huge crowds with tim scott and trey gowdy going around. ted cruz was assisted in a sad sort of way. no one wanted antonin scalia to depart but only one candidate has argued nine times in front of him. and that is ted cruz. and then, of course, jeb bush had brother w. come down. enormously popular there. and i'll close by noting john kasich had that hug. i didn't see the hug until late last night, but it's a powerful moment. and it's a narrative reinforcing moment. so five out of six had great moments this week in a volatile election where ben carson is also -- i did two hours of radio before coming over here. he's got his hard-core supporters. so i was pretty good in my predictions the first two. i'm not making any prediction
about tomorrow. it's too volatile. >> are you reading my notes or my mind? i was going to ask you. you have to give me something, hugh hewitt. >> i'll tell you this. i think marco rubio will finish second. and that's the first i've said it anywhere because of the -- because of interesting things like connor shaw. little things that are coming. and the arg poll has marco rubio with a big boost. but donald trump leads in every poll. >> so you have trump as number one? >> yeah, he's got the real clear politics average at 30.2%. but ted cruz has a ground game. it's going to be a tough-fought race. jeb bush on the show tonight and there is a little bit of deflation going on. politico is basically throwing they have two stories up tonight that says he's going to be out of the race by thus time next week because he's out of money and his staff are circulating resumes. not the stuff you want to see. john kasich, though, all he needs is 8, 10, 12%. >> can we go back to jeb bush
and we'll get to john kasich. so why are you saying that? you know, do you know for sure that jeb bush is out of money? is this a death nail? we don't know where he's going to place coming up. >> i asked him a telling question an hour and a half ago. i asked, governor, are you in this at least through march 15th. i think this is a direct quote. that's my plan. well, that's not what someone whose plan says -- someone says absolutely 100%. i am going all the way to cleveland. and so it kind of reinforced the politico narrative that i expected more of a pushback on that. sort of a poker tell. that's what my seasoned ears heard was a bit of weariness on jeb bush's part at the same time he's going to play it in nevada. he's going to play it tomorrow and miracles do happen. >> okay. so listen. he was very personal -- personable last night in the town hall. he came off as very likable. he came off, really honestly as someone who doesn't have a mean
bones in body. >> graagreed. >> you are sensing a change in him and his campaign. >> you have a very good gut. what is it telling you? >> it's telling me that jeb does not see a path forward if he does not finish in the top three and beat marco rubio. and marco rubio has this enormous surge going on. i'll also say that some of the votes jeb bush was counting on, i've got to bring back my governor from ohio. i haven't endorsed in this race. i just try and call it like i can. i've known john kasich a long time. that movement, that hug that occurred yesterday, that kind of stopped jeb's nice guy move. if everyone is looking for the nice guy, john kasich just got the nice guy vote. >> with the hug. >> with the hug. it's an amazing -- you are playing it right now. i think it could be a guarantee of a place on the ticket. >> it's up right now while you're talking about it. what's his best scenario? is this his next opportunity? when is his next opportunity to
prove that he isn't a one-hit wonder? >> he does well in mississippi, 15%. goes to michigan and does 25%. he wins ohio. and john kasich won 86 out of 88 counties in ohio in 2012. he won my hometown of warren, ohio, which never votes for a democrat. i thought a meteor was going to hit my town. it's a steel town. it's a car town. he's going to win ohio. and if we get to that open convention, which rick wilson calls the unicorn being ridden by a bare naked leprechaun. you can see a lot of weird stuff going on. but donald trump remains ahead in every national poll, save one. >> what's the one? >> "the wall street journal"/nbc poll. >> the one that came out earlier this week. if trump wins tomorrow, can anything stop him? >> oh, sure. you have to show that you have a
ceiling above 45%. you can't win with 30% and expect the field to fall over. he's got to build on that. and i'm told donald trump this on the air and i'll tell him in miami in the second debate. when you have negatives as high as he's got, how do you overcome that? and i think he's got answers. he wins states no one else can win. he's a pretty good salesman. he can sell a lot of people on democrats and independents crossing over to vote for donald trump. i do think he made a mistake in suggesting president bush lied about wmd. >> how do you think he did last night? >> he did great. >> you think he did well when the guy asked him, you called our former president, and i respect him a lot. do you want to take that back. you called him a liar. >> i think he did. the only thing donald trump can do is to deflect it -- i talked to anderson cooper. he began my show tonight. this is blowing smoke at cnn. anderson ran one of the hardest interviews i think i've ever seen. a three-for.
a voluble charismatic center stage interviewee. you have breaking news during the day. the pope, the pope arguing wths your interviewee. and then the buzzfeed story which, you know, i hate to run with stuff i haven't read about. >> howard stern. >> it was like the triple axel he landed completely well. hats off to anderson. >> he is a great journalist, and this is cnn, as they say. by the way, the man who asked donald trump about former president george w. bush is going to speak -- we're going to speak to him live in a minute. hugh, have a great friday night. >> thank you. >> let me give you a prediction. >> you said rubio second, trump one. >> yep. >> and even jeb bush's future. i appreciate it. washington paying tribute to justice antonin scalia. more than 3,000 mourners, including members of congress. you are looking at live pictures now streaming by to view the casket.
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republican voters in south carolina heading to the polls in just a few hours from now to cast votes in the gop primary. joining me, two of those voters. sherry burris and oran smith. each asked donald trump a question at cnn's republican town hall in south carolina. very good questions. and we're glad to have you here on a friday night. sherry, do you first. let's start with you. okay. so you told donald trump that you admire his strength but you have concerns about his tone and self-control. let's listen to some of donald trump's answer. >> but we need a certain toughness. look, we have isis chopping off people's heads. christians heads.
everybody else's heads. drowning people in cages. this is like medieval times. we need a certain toughness. i know hillary said i don't like donald trump's tone. tone? they are chopping off the heads of people. this hasn't happened since medieval times. if we don't have the toughness, we're not going to end up with a country. we're going to let people come into this country that are going to be isis or isis related and we'll have problems like you've never seen. >> when i interviewed you last night what you said is you understood where he was coming from but it wasn't exactly the answer you were looking for. but i do know that you voted today. did that answer play a part in your vote and who you voted for? >> you know, i think it did. obviously, i'm not going to reveal who i voted for, but it did help me make a decision that i could get comfortable with the two candidates that i was deciding between. so, to me, i feel like anyone
who takes this office is going to have to be a fast learner no matter what. especially someone who has been on the outside. so i think if he does get elected, then he's going to have to tone it down a little bit. he's already started doing that. and that was my main purpose in asking the question. i don't know that he could have really answered it any clearer. it's really going to be telling in how he conducts himself going forward. >> i think i know where you were going, where you went when you voted but i don't want to say. oran, you told -- >> you don't really know. >> i don't know but it gives me an idea. i won't press you on it because it's your right. you don't have to tell anyone. >> i'm comfortable with the people that i think south carolina is going to vote for. >> you told donald trump in the last debate when he said george w. bush lied to get us into the iraq war, it stung you deeply. you asked if he'd be willing to rethink that. here's what he said. >> well, a lot of people agree with what i said.
and i'm not talking about lying. i'm not talking about not lying. nobody really knows why we went into iraq. the iraqis did not -- it was not saddam hussein that knocked down the world trade center. >> what's you said was they lied. they says there were weapons of mass destruction. there were none. they knew there were none. >> there were a lot of people that think that. bottom line, there were no weapons of mass destruction. >> you whittled your choices down to two candidates. did that answer play a part? >> well, first of all, let me paraphrase graucho marx. sometimes a question is just a question. coming out of the greenville debate, that's was the number one question on my mind. it was a very personal question. i said it hurt deeply. it cut me deeply. that was the nominee of our party the last time, and that's was a pretty serious accusation to say he was a liar. so there's no conspiracy about the question. nobody put me up to it. it was all me. it was all me in the heart being hurt by that debate in
greenville. so i am not sure i got everything i wanted as far as an answer. i was encouraged he backed up a bit on that. he didn't come completely off of it, though, did he? >> he didn't really answer your question about the lying part. but was it -- my question was to you, know, did it play a part in you whittling it down? as i understand, you have decided -- the decision is between two people. >> i've met with donald trump before. very impressed with his candidacy. and i am going to vote tomorrow as early as i can, and i've got it down to a couple. i guess i probably have to make him number three now. he's probably out of my top two just because i think it showed some questions about his loyalty to the party that he's running under. >> he said to you, he said i'm
not going to get your vote. i remember him saying that. >> i want to -- can i defend him a little bit there? >> sure. i was in the audience. i was in the audience and that was -- there was an interplay going on with the audience. he was sort of saying that's mostly to the audience. i think that's was for their benefit more than mine. he seemed a little irritated, but once i sat down, i'm not sure that he was giving me the evil stare. >> what are people saying to you about your questions? are they discussing it? are you out and about town? sherry, are people talking about what you asking them questions? >> yes, they are. and i've gotten a lot of good responses from people. i think most of the responses were very glad that i asked the question. i think the majority of people had the exact same feeling that i did. one of -- a lot of people i don't know contacted me and said, you know, i really wanted someone who has private sector experience, but i had the same
concerns that you did. i'm glad you asked the question. i don't know that everybody feels he directly answered it. and i don't feel that way either, but it was something that needed to be said out loud and i'm glad i got the opportunity to do it. i felt good about the responses that people had. >> oran, do you think there were conversations with people that changed minds last night? >> well, this is very unscientific, but most of the people i've heard from out and about today in the streets of downtown columbia have been very supportive. you are probably not going to walk up to somebody and tell them you didn't like what they says. i've had a lot of support from folks i've run into. i learned a lot about social media in the last 24 hours. wow. you can really light up twitter in a negative way and find everything you've ever done analyzed if you ask a tough question to a presidential candidate. so that's a lesson learned for sure. >> i wouldn't know anything about that. >> i feel the same.
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republicans in south carolina start casting their votes tomorrow morning at 7:00. 7:00 in the morning. donald trump still leading in the polls. let's discuss, kaley, republican writer and commentator who is a columnist for above the law. maria cardona. and the author of "the wilderness" and political straft gist mark hoover. if trump wins tomorrow, is he going to run the table, as he likes to say? >> there's a very strong
possibility that that's exactly the case. and that's exactly what's has the cruz camp and rubio camp and every other republican in the country -- and kaley, quite nervous frankly because winner takes all states start on march 15th. so proportionately dialing up little by little. this war of attrition on the guys on the other end. the field has not winnowed by march 15th, donald trump's inertia, his earned media campaign, all of the momentum that's gone into this frankly means that's donald trump will be the republican nominee. >> are you finally saying -- >> i did in iowa. it took me going to iowa to realize. >> why did it take iowa? >> because i was on maternity leave before. >> you can't think about it when you are on maternity leave. >> i wasn't really plugged in. >> mckaleyla, trump claims he ce
out against the iraq war before. we uncovered this howard stern interview from 2002 saying otherwise. take a look at this. >> are you for invadesing iraq? >> yeah, i guess so. you know, i wish it was -- i wish the first time it was done correctly. >> okay. so an i guess so, but -- is that -- >> a rousing endorsement of the idea? certainly an endorsement. you have to remember and put this into context of trump saying for months and months that he was against the iraq war when every other republican was for it pointing to that fact is kind of proof of his sensibility and savvy when it comes to matters of foreign policy. and i think the other thing that the team, my colleague andrew kosinski is leading this effort to investigate this. there's very little, if any, evidence of trump saying on the record in public that he was
opposed to the war in 2002 or 2003. >> not true. >> put those things together, it's very difficult for him to support this claim. look, he just -- we just listens to a clip of him saying, yeah, i guess so. i don't care how rousing that is. that is saying, yeah, i guess it's a good idea. >> kaley and then margaret. >> okay, yeah, that's not true. first you said donald trump was not against the war when every republican was for it. that's patently false. as of 2004, hillary clinton was for the war. she was for the iraq war up until 2007 when she was still saying it was a good idea. john kerry was for the war. all of the republican senators virtually were for the war. and donald trump was saying repeatedly on the record on bill o'reilly's show and "esquire" magazine in 2004, just a year after the invasion that it was a bad idea. donald trump was against this when everyone else was for it. >> what's you are saying may be true but let's not deflect the
fact he said he was never for going to iraq. they have all done exhaustive research on every statement that donald trump made leading up to the iraq war and no one can find anything that he made a public statement or any assertion that he was not in favor of the war in iraq. what -- what you are saying may be true. that's not what he's saying. >> stand by, everyone. he was asked about this howard stern thing about this last night on cnn in the town hall. and again this evening on fox news. take a look. >> that was long before the war started. and it was a very like, i guess so. howard is a friend of mine. that was the first time i was ever asked about it. and i should have said, i guess so. and then seven, eight, nine months later the war started. by that time i had already gone that i was absolutely opposed to it. in 2003 you see i was opposed to it because that's when articles
start coming out. i wasn't a politician. nobody really cared what i thought about the war. nobody would have asked me. howard asked me at that early point. that was long before the war started. by the time i had a chance to think about it, i was against. >> and i need to let maria get in here. so how do you think this will play with south carolina voters? should his camp be concerned about this? >> it doesn't matter, don, if there's anything that we have learned in the last nine months is that whatever donald trump says or didn't say, it doesn't matter to his supporters. he will say the moment that he is asked, whatever he's going to say, and his supporters will believe him. and the more that all of us on this panel, that's the media, that buzzfeed, whoever uncovered that interview goes at him to say he lied. he was wrong. whatever ted cruz says, whatever marco rubio says will only make his supporters love him even more. >> the only finer point i would put on that is, because i don't
want to belittle his supporters. it's not that his supporters necessarily believe him either. what it means is it just doesn't diminish his esteem in their mind. >> i agree with that's. >> no, but he's been consistent -- >> go ahead. >> there's been this false narrative that's continually perpetuated that donald trump is somehow changing his policies throughout his campaign. he has been the one candidate who has been consistent and take -- >> that's was -- okay. that was a huge bone of contention last night. >> ana navarro. we all remember that moment. ana was being ana. >> got out of columbia to protect herself. >> but you can assert that but the facts don't support that assertion. >> it's true. it's true. >> what i see -- >> okay. >> here's the other thing that's happening sort of to your point, margaret, and you'll like this, kayleigh. he was also actually very honest in one of those answers when he
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i'm back with my panel now. here's my question. if anyone can fight with the pope and, you know and have it not hurt him so far. doesn't appear to be hurting him, can donald trump, mckay, make a boycott of apple happen? >> i don't know. i was actually talking to somebody who was looking at the demographics of the average
trump supporter and kind of comparing and contrasting with the consumers of apple products. there isn't as much overlap as maybe a successful boycott would require, although we know by now that no one should ever doubt the power of trump's bullhorn. i do think that trump uses these moments better than any other candidate. the feud with the pope was kind of in a way a master stroke, whether it was deliberate or not. a lot of the people i talked to down here in south carolina or evangelicals said not only do we not care about what the pope thinks, because we're evangelicals and not catholics, we specifically don't like this pope who has been very outspoken on sort of social justice and liberal causes. and trump, i think, as we look forward to south carolina, the s.e.c. primary, hurting the feelings of catholics,
particularly kind of moderate or liberal catholics is not going to hurt him much. let's talk about the democrats while we have some time life. maria, bernie sanders, hillary clinton, neck and neck in nevada. look at this moment from last night's democratic town hall. >> i know that's senator sanders has also attacked president obama. he's called him weak, disappointing. tried to get somebody to run against him in the 2012 election in the primary. and, you know, i just don't know where all this comes from. maybe it's that senator sanders wasn't really a democrat until he decided to run for president. he doesn't even know what the last two democratic presidents did. and -- well, it's true. it's true. you know it's true. >> wow. maria, who wins in nevada? >> that's going to be a nail-biter. i think she'll pull it out. i've talked to some folks on the ground who say that she is a little bit ahead. obviously, anything can happen. and caucuses are notoriously
difficult to poll. but in the polls we have seen, we've seen that the numbers are favorable for her in terms of the hard-core caucusgoers and people who say they are 100% going to go and caucus. she wins those. but again, bernie sanders has been great at getting young people, getting new people in. so we'll see what happens. i love that both of these candidates are going for the african-american vote really hard, the latino vote really hard. as a latina democrat, i couldn't be happier that's both of these candidates are competing for the vote and the republicans are giving us a heisman trophy move. >> for bernie sanders at this point, it's almost a win-win. he's basically closed the margin. hillary clinton's internal polls were showing internally they were 25 points ahead of sanders. that's essentially closed over the last five weeks. even if he does lose, it's still a win for him. he's closed the gap with the goliath. he's the david.
she's the goliath. she needs huge turnout numbers for this to happen. she needs turnout numbers on order of 2008. she needs to win the majority of hispanics, same proportion she won for african-americans in 2008. it's a heavy lift. the team on the ground is the same as in 2008. >> the fight has been for african-american and latino voters. is the fight also for independence voters, i wonder, kayleigh, because if you -- bernie sanders is essentially -- they are saying that this is going to be a third term for president barack obama. in an interview with b.e.t., bernie sanders is accusing hillary clinton are cozying up to barack obama to get african-american voters. that's a pretty heavy charge. >> it is. i definitely agree. independence independents are key to this. if bernie sanders can skate by and win some of these close states, he's positioning himself in a very good place because the president is very unpopular and
for bernie sanders to take this rogue outsider approach in some ways similar to donald trump, that's done very well for a general election. hillary clinton will have a lot of explaining that she's not just going to be a third term of the obama administration. >> so hillary clinton scored a big endorsement with south carolina congressman jim clyburn. the highest ranking african-american in congress. do you think that support will hb reverberate over to nevada, mckay? >> well, i think that it could. the thing that -- you know, in nevada, it's more about turnout with latinos, although certainly the black vote matters. latinos are really the whole game in a democratic caucus in nevada. and both campaigns have actually invested significant resources in turning out latinos and hiring some of the top latino, you know, political operatives and consultants. so i think that's that could help. i did just see a report that when the endorsement was
announced, there were a lot of bernie supporters in the crowd, and there wasn't a hugely enthusiastic response. but i do think that, look, south carolina is where that's going to help. and i think if hillary does have a firewall, which it's looking increasingly -- i'm increasingly skeptical of that. if she has a firewall, it may not be nevada. >> but if she loses in nevada, what's does that mean for south carolina and the race and beyond? maria, you are the perfect person to answer that. >> well, sure. it will be much more difficult for her because bernie will have the wind at his back. more momentum than he has now going into south carolina. now she does have huge numbers of advantage in south carolina. and that transcends the african-american vote of all ages. we all have this narrative that bernie sanders is doing incredibly better than her with
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the ad. >> her church taught her to do all the good you can for all the people you can for as long as you can. after law school, she could have joined a high-priced law firm but instead, she worked to reform juvenile justice in south carolina, exposed racism in alabama schools, registered
latino voters in texas and provided legal aid to families in arkansas. her life's work has been about breaking barriers, and so would her presidency. >> that's very powerful. why did you decide to do this? >> this is coming down to the wire. i think it is a very, very important election, not that all of them aren't. but we're in a situation in the world today where everybody is sitting on some sort of a powder keg and too many people have matches. you know what
i mean. so whoever is going to be part of the world leadership is going to have to have some serious knowledge and smarts, and i think because of hillary's background, her knowledge, her proven abilities -- >> foreign policy, as the former
secretary of state? >> exactly. >> so this is about -- for you, it sounds like this is about trust, who you can trust. >> yes. yes, absolutely. >> i want you to look at this. this is an exchange from a questioner from cnn's recent town hall with secretary clinton. it's about the trust issue. take a listen. >> i've heard from quite a few people my age that they think you are dishonest. but ides like to hear from you on why you'd feel the enthusiasm isn't there? >> i've been around a long time. people have thrown all kinds of things at me. and i can't keep up with it. i just keep going forward. they fall by the wayside. they come up with these outlandish things. they make these charges. i just keep going forward because there's nothing to it. they throw all this stuff at me, and i'm still standing. >> you think it's a good enough answer because the polls show she has a trust issue. number one, is it a good enough answer, and in your mind do you think she has a trust issue?
>> well, not with me, well, not with me she doesn't. i can't say that she doesn't because all you need in some cases, people, is to say it. just put it out there. and it gets legs. the clintons have been being beat down ever since. way back. so she just is going along with that legacy that she's inherited over the amount of time she's been in politics, which is a long time. >> mm-hmm. >> i think this is just made-up stuff, just political hog wash. >> you have the primary coming up in south carolina. you say that, again, this is more about trust to you because south carolina the big thing is she's got to win the african-american vote. if she doesn't get the african-american vote, bernie sanders doesn't get the african-american vote, it's toast. with you for you this goes
beyond that. this is again an issue of trust for you and that's why you are supporting her. >> yeah. there is no -- i don't think there is such a thing as a black vote, as a political monolith. you know. that's not going to be the way it works this time. >> people need to figure out who they can trust. at this point you have whoever is going to be in control of the senate, the supreme court nominee and the person who is going to sit in the white house. as you said, all elections are important but this one may be the most important that many of us will vote on in our -- experience in our lifetimes. >> exactly. i'm a little fearful. and when you get to that point, you need to stand up and start talking, you know. that's why i'm here.
people are talking about race and gender and all that and that is always going to go on in these contests. but it's really not about that. it's about who can do the job. you have to just stop and think who can do the job. we have our shot at getting a very qualified person who happens to be a woman in the number one job. >> you've seen a lot of presidential campaigns. is there anything that stood out to you that makes you want to shake your first at the television? >> makes me laugh. i'm not going to call any names, i'm not going to lay out anything, but it makes me laugh. >> it's funny to you? >> it's funny. >> did you ever think we'd be at this point politically? >> no. i -- i -- who -- who would?
>> what's at stake in this election? >> what isn't? safety. i mean, just security. the fact that we have this disparity in incomes, that always brings things to a shaking point. there will be a revolt as a result of that. that's really i think what bernie sanders is riding on, that sense of revolt. too much of the country's wealth is squeezed into too small a space. >> yeah. >> because without a middle class, without people being able to make a decent living, we don't go anywhere. we don't grow.
we don't thrive. yeah, here in these cities in terms of where the money is concentrated, it's fine. go out into where people are just walking the streets wondering how am i going to get past this? >> it's an honor. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> always good see you. come back. >> you, too. >> you know why? >> why? >> you're a good looking kid. >> why thank you. i appreciate that! thank you, sir. it's indeed a pleasure. >> and i will take that from morgan freeman. make sure you stay with cnn this weekend for our in-depth coverage of the south carolina republican primary and the nevada democratic caucuses. we'll be right back.
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if you missed any of our two-night gop republican town hall you, can see the whole thing in a few minutes. i want to say a few wordsharper lee. she died this morning at the age of 89. she wrote "to kill a mocking bird," she watches her father fight a losing battle. "to kill a mocking bird," the 1962 movies is one of my
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telling this timeless american story to you're students, our neighbors and to our children and to constantly try in our own lives to finally see each other. s can. good evening. welcome from the university of south carolina in columbia. i'm anderson cooper. we're moments away from another cnn republican town hall. jeb bush, john kasich, donald trump answering voters' questions here making up their minds before the first in the south primary here in south carolina. it's been quite a day, to say the least. >> i'm proud of my dad, george h.w. bush. >> jeb bush, once