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all of that. we're getting ready, right at the top of the hour, a few seconds from now, they will be closing those doors, all of those people waiting in line presumably will be able to get in and participate in the caucuses. a very important moment right now. all right. right now the doors are going to be closing at those caucus sites. at one of them in reno, nevada for us right now, we don't have enough information yet to report on what's going on, but it looks like packed crowd there where you are? >> reporter: it is a very packed crowd, and let me explain what's happened in the last few minutes or so, wolf. you're seeing here a line snaking back and forth, up and down the rows of this auditorium. think of it like the security line at the airport. what these people are doing, told to get inside. trying to put as many of these caucusgoers inside the auditorium as possible. there's still, wolf, a couple hundred people who are outside and what they're doing -- right
now, is they are putting volunteers at the end of the line saying, that's it. it's over. not letting anyone else in. hey, everybody -- we're on cnn. who is supporting bernie sanders? and that's generally the sense we're getting. a lot of the people here, remember, at the university of nevada-reno. a lot of the people here tend to be younger. some of them are -- is anyone a first-time voter? this group. all first-time voters? >> i'm a second-time voter. >> reporter: a lot of them, first-time voters, many students. a lot of bernie sanders supporters we've seen carrying signs. happening over here, wolf, getting ready to caucus. expecting that to happen. >> in las vegas. the lines very long still over there, tom. >> reporter: cue me again if need be. >> we lost our connection with tom foreman and we'll try to
reconnect. and boris sanchez, ranko high scho -- rancho high school along the strip. boris, can you hear me okay? >> reporter: i can, wolf. we're at k.o. knutson middle school, voters have come inside to a gymnasium. we were outside a moment about, about 100 people still in line waiting to get in to register and get into rooms like this one. looking at two precincts behind us. how many of first-time caucusgoers? raise your hands. a lot of people are doing this for the first time. nevada only recently started caucusing, and so the process is still relatively new to a lot of people, both hillary and bernie sanders spent time teaching the caucusing process to officials in spanish and english, because this is is a very diverse community in east las vegas. right now outside getting back out there, starting to hand out tickets with anyone in line. anyone with a ticket is a allowed to come in. don't have a ticket, too bad. you can't get in. there are two precincts in here.
in a few minutes we're expecting campaign officials to come in and start explaining the process and splitting the crowds into different groups. what what i've heard from the people i've spoken to outside, they're still very split. at first support for hillary. the line got bigger and bigger, a lot of support for bernie. >> we'll watch together with you, boris. dana, the process is a little kplishgted. you don't just go into a booth and vote. you got to sit there, listen to instructions, could go on an hour or so. >> complicated and at time ruckus. a first look, wolf, at what the people going to caucus are thinking, who they are and our political director is here, david, so much going into this, hillary clinton, good for her potentially because of that firewall. kwhap is the makeup of the electorate? >> interesting. looking for where is the
electorate the same in iowa and new hampshire and where is it different? first note where it's different. there's a much -- a less white electorate than we saw in iowa and new hampshire. overall, look at the white makeup of the electorate in nevada according to entrance poll, 64% of nevada democrats showing up at the caucus sites now are white. 12% black. 17% latino. 4% asian. that compares with 91% white in iowa. 93% white in new hampshire. this is the first test of a less-white electorate for both candidates and how they perform. the other thing we're looking at is ideology. how liberal is the electorate? 70% of nevada democrats showing up at caucuses say liberal. 30% moderate or conservative. this is interesting, dana, because in 2008, 45% of the nevada democratic caucus electorate called them liberal. today, 70% of the electorate in nevada calls themselves liberal.
more on par with what we saw in iowa and new hampshire. roughly 68% in both states said they were liberal, about the same, 70% liberal but quite different than the ideological makeup in 2008. >> it is. and just looking back at some of the numbers from 2008. perhaps surprisingly, in nevada, hillary clinton won 48% of self-described liberals. what does that tell us about what we can expect this time around? >> again, we don't know how these liberals are splitting now between sanders and clinton, but it is a much more liberal-going electorate. that would be welcome news to bernie sanders. that's a big driving force behind his campaign and also that i think the democratic party shifted to the left in a way over the last eight years that we're seeing come here now as well. i do think one thing that's going to be very appealing to the clinton campaign is this slight uptick in hispanic participation, right now we're seeing about 17% electorate hispanic compared to 15% in 2008. edge it up a little, they've made a big play for hispanic
votes and happy to see the overall participation grow. >> i've been getting e-mails and texts from clinton people, sort of trying to walk back the narrative and the notion that this is going to be a very diverse electorate. well, wait. it's actually pretty white and especially those that go out and vote. not as diverse as you think it is, trying to, of course, set expectations differently than they've been for months. >> weren't the same texts getting in december, wants to remind us how white iowa and new hampshire were, wait for south carolina and nevada -- >> anybodies point out, a lot less. 30%. >> without a doubt. and they made nevada and south carolina, the clinton camp has, noting a firewaurl, a challenge to sanders running very white vermont. how he does with a more diverse electora electorate. one of the keys we're watching tonight and indeed, this will be a more diverse electorate. >> sure will. interesting number, wolf. we'll watch as we see how the
numbers break down among the candidates. >> nevada, a much more diverse state populationwise than either iowa or new hampshire. excellent point. to brianna keilar at hillary clinton's campaign headquarters. what are you hearing there, brianna? >> reporter: yeah, the real story on that, wolf, is that the clinton campaign is banking on a minority of hispanic voters but a very sizable minority here in nevada. they're looking back to 2008 where they had 15% turnout, and they're hoping to hit that mark again, and their big play for this demo is so evident today in how you see hillary clinton spending some of her final moments, and how you see the campaign equipping some of these caucus sites. for instance, just this morning, hillary clinton on univision this morning, making a play for hispanic voters, and then we also understand that there are bilingual resink captains at a
number of caucus sites. managing expect aces about what is going to happen here in nevada, you look at those data points and can see just how much they are banking on this key democrat graphic and hoping to hit that 15% turnout mark they had in 2008, wolf. >> brianna, quickly, once the results are in, we will hear from hillary clinton. right? she'll make some sort of speech? >> reporter: yeah. we are expecting to hear from her, and it's actually not that uncustomary for -- for instance, a candidate to then head off to the next spot, but hillary clinton will be heading out of nevada very quickly. heading to houston, and she'll be at a historically black college, really with an eye towards south carolina. important especially if she doesn't do as well as she'd hoped here in nevada today, woman. >> anxious for those results. brianna, thanks very much. everyone's anxious to get the results. >> right, wolf. in 2008, hillary clinton won 64% of the latino vote. really counting on latino voters to turn out for her today.
in nevada. talk about some of these results. paul obviously, initial entrance polling information, and will be updated at 3:00 eastern. so we can't bank on it as if it's 100% factual, getting more data 234 data. that is a stark difference. 70% liberal versus 30% moderate to conservative. when hillary clinton won the popular vote in nevada eight years ago it was 55% moderate to conservative. >> enormous shift. two things going on in the democratic party, frankly, in america. becoming more diverse, racially. benefiting hillary. stronger appeal in polling with people of color. young people are becoming for liberal. dark ages, george w. bush, against al gore, carried it by one point. barack obama by 37 points. young people are more lib rap. a lot of it is it president. like him, rallied to him. within the party, though, look for the most liberal person. bernie appealed, true, he's a
terrific candidate and an audience ready for him. young people have a more favorable view of socialism than capit capitalism. he had an audience and that's one of the most important things. not just that he's created this. this is authentic. the base in the party, the young people, that part of my base, become much more liberal. hillary has to deal with it and bernie taking advantage of it. >> seeming to give voice to frustration saying at a rally, hey, look, i'm not out there talking about giving away a bunch of free stuff. i'm talking about actual, practical solutions to these problems. specifically, that seems to be aimed very much at bernie sanders. >> it is. we have race and it's about dreaming with bernie sanders versus dreaming with your eyes open with hillary clinton. you have what's very practical versus what we want to achieve, but ives always said, to embrace bernie sanders you have to somehow believe he's more
transformational than barack obama. a hard sell to voters of color, why when we see these exit polls and see that you have an uptick in hispanic voters, about 30% electorate, appears 29%, non-white voters, boding well for hillary clinton. >> hold that there. nevada is turning out in a big way. huge lines, entrance polls providing some insight what they look like. more information from our entrance pom polls coming up. what issues matter most to the people in nevada? whom do they support? that's ahead. was engineered... ...to help sense danger before you do. because when you live to innovate, you innovate to live. the all-new audi q7. a higher form of intelligence has arrived.
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the democratic presidential caucuses in nevada are now under way. people are gathering. they have gathered, they're lining up to make their choices known. jason carroll is at one of those caucus sites in las vegas right now at rancho high school. walk us through what's happening where you are, jason. >> reporter: wolf, just in the beginning process of how this is all getting under way. where i'm standing is actually
pretty important. a classroom inside rancho high school, represents a precinct. the way it works, those who are in support of one candidate will stand on one side of the classroom. those in support of the other stand on the other side of the classroom. how it's looking in this room. again, very early. things haven't officially gotten started, but so far most of the people sitting here on this side of the classroom support sanders. there's a few clinton folks back there. right in the middle, that middle table there, the two folks there in the very back are unc uncommitted. that table is for sanders. everyone, wolf, on this side of the room are sitting, eventually standing, for hillary clinton. so that's how it's going to look and all of these classrooms here, wherever you are, here in the state of nevada, you will stand or sit in support of your candidate. once again, still folks are outside in line. this will not get started until all are actually inside. >> we'll watch together with you, jason. going to tom foreman at caesar's palace, the site of another democratic presidential caucus.
tell us what's going on, tom, where you are? >> reporter: wolf, they had so many more people than expected. 150, at this site, 250 maybe even 300 who filled this room here, that they actually let everybody come in without completing the registration process. apparently they're going to try to complete it while they're holding the caucus. i'm not sure how that's going to work out and i have a feeling there might be complaints before it's all done. nonetheless, what's going to happen here. in this room the candidates areas will be delineated as shown here. hillary clinton's camp will be over in this area. you can tell from our shot a moment ago, many more people are on that side right now. and then on this side is where bernie sanders gatherers will be. they will all have a chance until counting actually gets under way to change if they want to. anybody who wants to go from one side to the other can do so. i have to tell you, based on what we've seen so far, there's not going to be a lot of
appetite for people changing. a lot of passion on both sides. if, by chance, wolf, if this comes down to be a tie, then in a very vegas way they're basically going to pull out a special deck of cards, they've designated. a representative from each side will draw a card. which of card happens to be the highest will get the additional edge in terms of delegates coming out of this. >> is that just the caesar's palace decision to use cards like that? or is that state-wide? >> reporter: no. state-wide, and bear in mind, there are six locations like this along the strip. meaning, at large caucus sites where all of these people who work in the various casinos and restaurants and at valets, as everything else, can come during their break time here and you can see many, many people over here wearing work badges and work uniforms. so they need to get this moving on and get it done, because many have to get back to work. one of the other concerns why they probably opened the doors when they dead, wolf. >> and raising a flag for me.
these people, some have not even registered yet they're going to register as the process goes on? sounds like, you're right. there's a potential for dispute. >> reporter: yeah. unbelievably slow, wolf. people in line, been here before, couldn't believe how slow it was. at times looked like the line was barely moving at all. i'll say based on what we saw, three quarters. people in this room did not get through the registration process before coming inside. wolf? >> a potential problem there. hopefully it won't be. dana and you and david are looking at entrance poll numbers. fascinating new information. >> as i go to david, we just saw a tweet from the political director of the killenary workers' union and should note they declined to endorse this time. the tweet issest interest, a lon line have to go back to work. it could hurt turnout ultimately
because they waited so long, took up the time off work to go do this. >> you heard jeff zeleny reporting before, a clear organizing strategy going on. those workers targeted by the campaigns to caucus during this time off from work are forced back to work because the lines are too long and they can't accomplish that, that obviously upends that entire strategy put in place. >> absolutely. now let's get to entrance polls. what are we learning more about the kind of person who's going, age and whether or not they've caucused before? >> right. look at this age breakdown. you see that senior citizens here have actually increased their participation from eight years ago. 70 to 29, 70%. 45 -- look at the 65 and older number. 31%. eight years ago in democratic caucuses, that was 23%. an older electorate. i should note that 17 to 29 number, 17%, a slight uptick from where we saw the youth vote eight years ago as well, but not
as much as the senior uptick. a slightly older electorate. look at this. 65% of nevada democratic caucusgoers are first-time caucusgoers. that is not too big of a shock, i guess, because nevada, democrats haven't had a ton of practice with a high-profile caucus. eight years ago, one of the first times put up front on the calendar and you would expect a lot of first-time caucusgoers. not a tried and true -- only 16%, first time caucusgoers in iowa this year was 44% of the electorate. this is the freshest, newest electorate we've seen so far in a con test and that probably bodes well for bernie sanders, even if i'm sure there are a ton of clinton supporters when we see those numbers come in, but having two-thirds of the caucus goin' electorate new to the process is exactly the kind voter the sanders campaign was looking for t. is. no question historically and just in terms of strategy bernie
sanders people, that's all about getting out new people, but the other number i thought was potentially good for hillary clinton is that, there are a lot more -- a lot older. he tends to go for younger voters. >> no doubt about it. this being an older electorate. in the clinton campaign headquarters, looks pretty good for us. >> sure does. >> older people vote for in bigger numbers percentagewise than younger people. see that has holds in nevada on this important day. pictures, people at caucus sites. standing by for the first real numbers to come in and we're going to share them with you when we come back. we needed 30 new hires for our call center.
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school where voters are beginning to make their choices, and caucus. let's go to reno right now. i want to check in with our reporter at the university of nevada at reno. a university town. one would probably suspect that it is something of a sanders' stronghold. how is the caucus process going in reno right now? >> reporter: well, the choices aren't being made quite yet, jake. delayed because there are still people in line. same-day registration here in the state. we've counted about 50 people still retgistering to vote. once they register they're in this line. you see the end of the line here and then it snakes all the way around the auditorium, all the way around and they get to the front where they do general check-in. i'll have you walk over this way, jake. this section here, a little
difficult to see. treating the auditorium like at the airport. people snaking um ae ining up a vote. two groups checking inened a the caucus hasn't started yet. seen here, walk back this way. we're starting to see some of the people preparing to caucus. you see this gentleman over here? he has a bernie sign. a lot of people here at this university campus either affiliated with the university or voters themselves who are university students, voting for the first time, predominantly, what we've seen, support are bernie sanders as you suspected, jake. >> not unusual for a college campus. thanks so much. talk about the entrance poll information and data we're getting with our analysts. michael smerconish, start with you. if you're hillary clinton looking at this data, it's early data. it's going to be updated but shows that it is a larger percentage of voters 65 and older than turned out in 2008. >> good news. >> but -- >> but -- [ laughter ]
>> but the number or percentage who are first-timers, problematic for her. aen e-mail that said, stay in line. you can caucus if you're in line. i wonder if the concern is that passion, again is going to play a role? because you've heard reports. some of the folks have to go back to work. who's going to tough it out? those there to tough it out there's to deliver a message, presumably more sanders people than for hillary. problems in terms of the machinations of the caucus benefit him. >> unfortunate reality of a caucus. have it on a saturday so people are able to go but a lot of people in las vegas especially, who work on saturdays. >> they work. it's not like you can just go and pull the ballot and leave. it's very labor-intensive. certainly i think the clinton campaign is looking at these entrance poll and exit poll numbers, are looking at the
breakdown. also latino voters. 17%, 18% in some of the numbers we're getting here. are they going to do well among those voters? are those first-time caucusgoers? younger, older? latino? african-american? all of this is going to be very interesting and in ways a template of the race going forward. right? how well do they do with white voters? are they able to essentially split white voters with sanders? able to blow it out among latino voters or african-american voters? i'm sure they're looking at these numbers closely. >> and david, so different from 2008. when you worked for obama. you were against hillary clinton in the nevada caucuses. she had the white voter, especially white working-class voters, quote/unquote, sewn up. >> she did. did well with latino voters. he got the lion's share of african-americans. people in the establishment said the thing that struck them, go to hillary clinton rallies and knew everybody there. go to sanders rallies and
couldn't recognize anybody. the question was whether these people would show up. these numbers suggest that the sanders people may be showi inip and so it likely will be a close race, but this is the snare cen the clinton people feared. >> and reporting from the ground, the general manager of caesar's just came to tell workers that they could stay, and not leave early. that they didn't have to get back to work and the culinary workers union is saying, you know, and hillary clinton's campaign, push for time off. >> interested to listen in on some of the phone calls going on at the highest levels of las vegas right now. >> in realtime. >> could keep these lines going. >> so people don't have to leave and can continue to exercise their right to vote and caucus. >> okay. when we come back, we're going to have the first numbers suggesting just how tight this race at the nevada caucuses is. we'll have more data, more information, more live reports if caucus websites.
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the democratic presidential caucuses in nevada. they are clearly well underway right now. people are inside, they're gearing up. this is an important moment. right now we want to share more of our entrance polls, and what they are revealing. remember, these are estimates based on interviews with a sampling of voters as they entered select caucus sites in nevada. here are some of the numbers. all right. based on the entrance polls, a key race alert. 49% right now for bernie sanders. hillary clinton, 47%. 3% uncommitted, especially close race is unfolding in nevada. right now 49-47. slight advantage there, you see, for bernie sanders. once again, these are estimates,
estimates based on a survey of the voters. the final outcome may well be different, and it's important to note that these first results come from interviews with caucusgoers who arrived early in the process. experience has shown us that those who show up at the caucuses earliest may vote differently than those who arrive later, but you see right there, based on this early sampling, a slight, slight advantage for bernie sanders. i want to go to brianna keilar, in las vegas at clinton headquarters. speaking with people on both sides, with bernie sanders people and hillary clinton peop people. what are you hearing? >> reporter: i just spoke a couple minutes with bernie sanders campaign manager and he had just been with sanders. he's feeling great. spending time with his wife jane and their daughter, live in arizona. made a short trip to support sanders. weaver talked a big game saying, look, this is a win either way for bernie sanders. he said, "clinton lost a 50-40
and 30 point lead in the first contest. sanders and his aides are hearing reports of high turnout, which weaver described as very auspicious for them. the campaign, i'm told, actually sending out texting to its supporters reminding them to stay in line. if they were in line by noon, they are set and don't want anyone going home. so they're trying to make sure they do stay put. wolf? >> brianna, stand by. we'll get back to you. brianna is in las vegas. a dead heat for practical purposes, dana, based on early numbers? the entrance polls? >> very early. going into this we kind of got the sense from both camps that they really didn't know how this was going to happen, and it could be a dead heat. i want to ask you, david, something we've noticed over the past several weeks which is hillary clinton really wrapping herself in the legacy and promising to continue the legacy of barack obama, and bernie sanders, he won't do that. now we know a little bit more about why.
>> exactly right. digging through entrance polls number, dana, we asked people and asked in new hampshire and iowa, too. do want to continue barack obama's policies or like to go into a more liberal direction than barack obama's policies? and take a look what we are seeing today. among those who say we should continue obama the policies, 72% are for hillary clinton. 25% are for bernie sanders. take a look among those voters who wanteral than barack obama. bernie sanders. not only do we see hillary clinton wrapping herself in barack obama, but we see the clinton campaign trying to drive a wedge between barack obama and bernie sanders. that he was thinking, perhaps, of maybe primarying him or encourages others to do so, that he called the president weak. the whole litany of stuff that the clinton campaign has been pushing about bernie sanders distancing himself in some way from barack obama being the
liber liberal critic of barack obama. this shows why. remaining larger than the universe of voters who want a more liberal direction. we'll see when final numbers come in. that's what they're trying to drive up. >> interesting considering the fact barack obama and hillary clinton were adversaries eight years ago and talking to people at clinton events back in new hampshire and iowa, that a lot of people said that they were going for her because they supported barack obama, and they did agree with the idea that she was going to continue doing what he's doing. >> never thought you'd say hillary clinton is the barack obama candidate, but that's what it is here. >> absolutely, no way. >> the president did pick her to be secretary of state. >> he did. >> whatever the bad blood during the primary and caucus in 2008, that went away when he asked her to be secretary of state. i want to go back to tom foreman at caesar's palace in las vegas. one of the caucus sites going on. you told us a while ago, tom, crowded, messy. what are you seeing right now?
>> reporter: maybe it's cleared up a little. they've countsed everybody twice and came up with the same number twice. 278. what is not clear yet is whether or not all of those people have been registered for this caucus yet, because so many were let in here unregistered. they keep working at tables up here trying to get them all squared away, but we don't know if that's the case. when they get to the actual deciding here, wolf, when that happens, we'll have moment-by-moment readouts showing you instantaneously how people are voting. we're hearing right now each candidate is going to be viable in this room, which is not to be a surprise. the clinton camp seems to have a big advantage in this room, but -- but -- that business of so many being in here without being registered is clearly going to be a concern as we move on through the day, wolf. >> hopefully they can figure it out, work it out.
they only can months and months and months to get ready for this day. let's hope it works out. it's a serious situation. tom foreman over at caesar's palace, a democratic presidential caucus under way right now. you would think, dana, and david, that they do have a long time to get all of this ready. i know caucuses are much more complex than just regular primaries, but still. >> that's right. but the other complicating factor is that people can just show up and register right there. so that's why it's a little bit surprising what we just heard from tom, because that -- the whole -- the whole goal of democrats especially in nevada is to use this process to sign more democrats up for the general election. >> exactly. it's a key battleground state. >> of course. >> those electoral votes are hugely important at the end of the day, and no doubt why democrats wanted to move this contest up on the calendar initially and exactly what you're saying. make it available to register. it is an organizing concept, that is what the caucuses are, to try and indeed bring more
democrats into the process so they can identify them and target them come the general election. >> a good concept. what they've got to do, do it right. very, very important. >> exactly. >> details. >> and no league battles once the dust settle. a very tight race, the democratic presidential caucuses. hillary clinton/bernie sanders are in a battle. an update when we come back. i think it landed last tuesday. one second it's there. then, woosh, it's gone. i swear i saw it swallow seven people. seven. i just wish one of those people could have been mrs. johnson. [dog bark] trust me, we're dealing with a higher intelligence here. ♪ the all-new audi q7 is here. ♪
we're back with cnn's live coverage of the nevada democratic caucuses. a lot of turnout in the state of nevada. let's go to our reporter in reno at the university of nevada at reno. it's obviously university camp its, probably a lot of sanders supporters as you described, but also you're saying in this messy
democratic action, democratic with a small d, there's a snafu. they're out of ballots of some sort? >> reporter: well, this gives you a sense of the kind of turnout that they got, turnout exceeding expectations here. i just want to, gathered a few people who are first-time voters and registered to vote today. you may notice that the forms, the registration forms are in spanish. does anyone here speak spanish? you're english speakers? these are english speakers registering to vote filling out spanish forms because they ran out of english registration forms nap is one snafu they've come up with here and come up with a solution that they're having them fill out these spanish forms. i've spoke tn to a guy in 2008. they says the turnout is much higher than what he saw in 2008. you point out, a student population. a lot of enthusiasm. we are seeing most of that enthusiasm right now, jake,
being directed to bernie sanders. >> and from reno, nevada. thank you very much. and boris sanchez in knudsen middle school. the caucus is going on. tell us, what's going on? >> reporter: hey, jake, a fuel minutes ago they finished reading the rules of the caucus. read letters from both candidates to the voters and these two precincts are about to split sbup to figure out who's supporter hillary and who's for bernie. they didn't expect this turnout at the knudsen school saying they re-aligned where the caucus sites would be but didn't know how many to expect. much more than expected. tremendous turnout here. you can see behind me, people are now counting to figure out viability, to figure whether or not there are enough caucusgoers that are voting for either side to drum up support to make the candidates viable. the important thing to look for
here is how many people are uncommitted. i only spoke to a handful in line still uncommitted. a big change in the past week at the cnn orc poll, more than a quarter of voters here were still undecided. it appears a lot of people made up their minds and we'll see exactly how they vote coming up in the next few minutes. jake? >> all right. go to another caucus site where we find our own jason carroll. jason, where are you and i remember shouting there not long ago. if people calmed down? jason carroll not hearing me. we're going to talk about it, perhaps i needed to shout. what's going on with our panel now? paul, the candidate breakdown, continue on obama's policies. clinton winning 72% of them, and be more liberal, sanders winning 81% of them gives you an idea how the message of these candidates are delivering, how they're really breaking through? >> they are.
in the debates we've had, the third guy on the it is remarkable. sanders seem to have been surging. he made a mistake when he den grated hillary saying she was doing that. it's not true. she joined his cabinet five years ago. those sorts of things, clumsy and this happens sometimes. everybody for bernie and everybody for hillary loves president obama. sanders campaign has to be careful about being disrespectful to the president. >> though van jones, i have to say, maybe how bernie sanders said this to i believe to bet, may have been clumsy but it's also true that barack obama is very popular with democratic voters, even more with african-american democratic voters, in south carolina it's smart politics if you are hrk. >> this is the first time in my life time the democratic party
is not running away from its core vote. black vote is the core vote in the democratic party. in the republican party it's evangelical vote. the republicans love that vote. they chase that. they just rock that boat to sleep. they can't get enough of that vote. when it comes to the democratic party and the black vote, we haven't felt that love you know, frankly the clintons came into office saying we're not reverend jackson. we're a third way. there was a whole lot of even with president obama this sense from the black community does he love us or can he love us in public. this has been a new dynamic where both candidates are rushing to us, i think sanders, so what's happening is you're seeing now the democratic party having to embrace its base. i think it's a good thing. >> you keep rocking that boat to sleep. a quick break. more live coverage of the nevada democratic caucuses.
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very tight race according to early entrance poll results between hillary clinton and bernie sanders of the democratic presidential caucuses under way in nevada right now. looks like where we're covering pigger turnout than earlier expected. i want to go to boris sanchez in las vegas. what's happening? >> reporter: wolf, what we're seeing is the division between two different precincts in this one gym. the precinct behind me the voters to my left are all bernie supporters, to the right there are hillary supporters. this is only one precinct. right now they are counting down the exact number of people on each side. we're still watching the numbers
as they come in. also, these voters had to fill out ballots to verify numbers because this might be close. in this gym there are two precincts, on the other side, hillary supporters outweigh the bernie supporters so numbers are being counted. we hope to get a clearer picture how many are on either side. from what we can tell these two are split, the larger precinct looks like it's going for bernie. the slightly smaller looks like it's for hillary. again, there's going to be a head count to figure out the exact split of delegates. once we have those we'll pass them along. >> they are sharing some of the numbers as they come in. as of right now that precinct where you are in las vegas, let's take a look and see what we have. put it up on the screen. it looks like it's what, about 57, 58, 59% for bernie sanders. 43% for hillary clinton. these are preliminary numbers coming in. i don't know if you have seen
those at the site where you are. >> no. i was writing that digital thing. >> boris, stand by. i want to go to tom foreman at another site at caesars palace at the casino where they got a caucus. wa are you seeing there? >> reporter: wolf, they are now firming up the numbers with our instant readout of 30% for bernie sanders, and 70% for hillary clinton in this room. that's really very much what it looked like as people were forming outside and shuffling in. as we pointed out, wolf, a lot of questions about the whole counting process here. there may be nothing wrong with any of it but absolutely will be something that officials are going to have to go over and over to make sure final results we're talking about, 70-30% come out properly. >> tom foreman at caesars palace. to reno, kyung lah is there. there were long lines. have they resolved the
registration issues? are people participating? >> reporter: these are the same day registration voters, and i can show you, wolf, the end of the line. this lady in blue here is the last same day registrant, then they have to get in this very long line which snakes all the way around until they check in. at boris' site where they are starting to caucus, we haven't started yet in this auditorium. it's probably going to be -- this is just a guess -- i'm going to say 30 to 45 minutes before all of these folks are checked in before they even begin to caucus. they are running certainly far behind what they anticipated it's going to take quite a bit longer than they anticipated. as far as turnout here, we did speak to someone who was here in 2008 in this room. he says that he feels that enthusiasm and turnout this time is much higher than in 2008. >> feels like that university of
nevada reno where you are, that's very interesting. i want to go to jason carroll at rancho high school in laefls now. jason, you're getting numbers from the count there? is that right? >> reporter: these numbers coming in to us from our precinct where we are, wolf. i can tell that you the count is as follows. 27 in this room for clinton, 20 for sanders, that's the early count that we're getting here. in terms of the official percentages now, it looks like we have clinton at 57%, sanders at 43%. again, i want to point out this is very early, in the process here. it was interesting to watch how things went down in this particular precinct in this classroom. they did a count at first, they weren't happy with that, there seemed to be some sort of discrepancy between the number of the people in the room so they did a recount. and came up with this final number here for where we are. at o