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that she gives. >> of course you would have to say that. that you might not be able to see any of this, after such an exciting day to move this case forward, get some resolution and clarity on what happened. jean casarez, thank you for that. thank you for watching, everyone. stay tuned, "wolf" starts right now. hello, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 10:00 a.m. in las vegas, 1:00 p.m. here in washington, 10:00 p.m. in damascus, syria. from wherever you're joining us, thanks for joining us. we begin with the presidential race. the republicans hitting nevada, the democrats looking ahead to south carolina. three of the five remaining republican hopefuls are in nevada today. that's the short-term focus. long-term, it's the march 1st super tuesday primaries. meanwhile, on democrat's sides, hillary clinton and bernie
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sanders are getting ready for their battle in south carolina, and the next test of how african-american voters are going to break. we'll get to that a little bit later this hour. but first, let's check the pulse of the republican race for the white house right now, donald trump is riding high after his ten-point win in south carolina. with a stop in atlanta, he ticked off the groups that gave him the win. >> so we won with everything. we won with highly educated, pretty well educated, and poorly educated, but we won with everything. tall people, short people, fat people, skinny people! just won. >> florida senator marco rubio collected his best finish so far, second-place finish in south carolina. now he's taking his message to nevada. >> we will win this election because of the people left in this race, of the people left in this race, no one can unite this movement or this party faster than i can. and we have to unite. if we're still fighting with each other in september and october, we're going to lose.
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if we're still divided, we're going to lose. there aren't enough of us. >> we're following the action in nevada today, ahead of tuesday's caucuses. our national political reporter, maeve reston is in elko, nevada, where three of the campaigns are hitting the ground today. why so much emphasis made on elko? >> well, elko is one of the biggest cities in rural, nevada. and of course, that would be really critical to whoever wins here on tuesday. this is a caucus state, and if these candidates can come in and sweep up some delegates in these rural areas, that's what they want to do. so literally, within a one-block radius, we have ted cruz here today, marco rubio has a strong crowd inside, is about to get speaking in there, and donald trump, the voters here were expecting to see him, but he's sending his son,stead, today. >> maeve, talk a little bit about what happened in the gop contest in the nevada caucuses, back in 2012, when mitt romney won the state, what lessons can
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the current candidates learn from that? >> well, this really is the wild west out here, wolf. you had only 33,000 voters show up to caucus in the republican caucus in 2012, when romney won here. and he won by virtue of a really strong ground organization. so marco rubio, ted cruz, jeb bush, they were all hoping to do the same thing this election year, but donald trump has kind of swept in with his momentum, not as much organization, and it really feels like trump country out here. we've been driving these rural counties for the last week, and almost every republican voter that we've met is saying that they're supporting trump. the question tomorrow night is whether or not the organization of these other campaigns, cruz and rubio, who clearly are competing for second here, can overtake that momentum, turn their people out, and hope for, you know, less of a big turnout for donald trump here tomorrow night. >> all right. maeve reston in nevada for us, thank you. later, by the way, in "the situation room," i'll be interviewing the ohio governor, john kasich. he's one of the five republican candidates still standing.
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we'll talk about the results in south carolina, the upcoming votes in nevada and beyond. that's later today, 5:00 p.m. eastern. meanwhile, ted cruz finished a close third in south carolina, but stands second in the current republican delegate count. he's also in nevada today, right to gain support ahead of tomorrow's caucuses. let's discuss a little bit more about what's going on. joining us, our chief cnn political correspondent, dana bash, and our chief political analyst, gloria borger. cruz has got to make his case. a disappointing third-place showing in south carolina. >> he does. and you know, i think that he was disappointed with evangelical voters, and i think he's got to start appealing to evangelical voters. he understands that donald trump is way ahead there. he's got some money to spend. he's been organized. he's got a really well-organized campaign. so i think cruz will continue to make his case, that he's the constitutional conservative, and the values candidate. the one area we saw in those exit polls that cruz does badly
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is on shares your values. i mean, that trump does values, cruz does well on that. >> when they say values, they mean the social issues. >> exactly, exactly. >> marriage, gay marriage -- >> exactly. >> stuff like that. >> abortion rights for women. the jeb bush decision to suspend his campaign, effectively dropping out of the race, the supporters, the money, where are they heading? >> well, the rubio campaign is trying to get them big-time. not everybody has really decided where they're going to go, if they're going to go anywhere else. i'm sure most of them will, eventually. but that is really the race right now. john kasich would probably like to have some of them. they are the more establishment republican supporters and donors. and that is the key right now. but i think to your point about -- first of all, i don't think a lot of them are going to go for ted cruz or donald trump. i mean, donald trump is self-funding. but that's a different story. but to your on the about ted cruz, you know, as the night was going on and on and on on saturday night, the one thing that the rubio campaign was
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starting to push already is, ted cruz doesn't have a lock on the south. never mind a lock, he didn't get any delegates. nobody got any delegates in south carolina, except donald trump, which is pretty astonishing. which is really remarkable. but drauz droouz has speted cru lot of time focusing on the s.e.c. primaries. he was going on a bus tour there in august, when everyone was saying, what are you doing? so i think there's a lot of focus on those march 1st states and it will tell us a lot about ted cruz's viability, and the reason why that is important, so to figure out whether or not marco rubio can be the only guy left standing, effectively, against donald trump. >> can i say something to add to what dana is saying about the donors? i was talking to a bunch of donors over the weekend -- >> bush donors? >> jeb bush donors. and first of all, they say, jeb bush hasn't sent any kind of a signal to anybody. he's taken some time off and he's not going to send a signal. there is this kind of
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shakespearean fight that we've seen between the mentor and his student, you know, bush and rubio, so there still have some hard feelings. so, people aren't flocking to one candidate or another. somebody said to me, many will go to rubio. obviously, rubio campaign says they've gotten a lot. but in texas, for example, there may be some donors who decide to go to cruz. and also, kasich is making a place for sop jeb bush donnors. >> we just got a clip in. this is senator rubio. listen to this. he was asked about ted cruz's so-called dirty tricks that he supposedly is playing out there against some of the other republican candidates. listen to this. >> i'm saying, at some point, there has to be some level of accountability. otherwise, you're running an operation where you're sending a message to the people who work for you, go out and do anything you want, and if you get caught, we'll just apologize, but we'll keep doing it. that seems to be what's happening here. >> he says this whole notion of
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dirty trix, what was going on in south carolina or iowa for that matter, potentially could be plaguing senator cruz. >> it could be, potentially, one of the things that hurt him in south carolina. and the rubio campaign is really going after him. i mean, we were both at a rally that marco rubio is having in south carolina, when one of his top aides started to hand out a piece of paper that showed a clearly photoshopped photo of what appeared to be marco rubio shaking obama's hand. and the rubio campaign clearly thinks that that is a negative for ted cruz, which is why their campaign and the candidate himself, keeps pounding away on this dirty tricks notion. because they think it opens up a wound that hadn't been there before, for ted cruz, and that he was coming across successfully as a true conservative, as somebody who was above it all and outside, kind of, a political -- the whole political idea of doing things the way that people in washington do it.
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well, he's trying to poke a hole in that. >> and so his strength is values, and part of values is ethics, and if they can weaken him on that, that would be a good thing for them. and by the way, they're joined with donald trump on this, who keeps calling ted cruz, what, sleazy and a liar and everything else. so donald trump is on rubio cea's side in this, and he can attack cruz, be on the side of donald trump, and avoid for what may be another week or two attacking donald trump. >> what do you make of rudy giuliani, the former new york city mayor, being quoted in "the washington post," saying he's given some political advice to donald trump? >> it doesn't surprise me, actually. i think these fellows go back a long way in new york. trump says he's strong on isis and fighting terrorism, which is the number one issue in the republican party. however, i do recall that rudy giuliani actually ran for the presidency and didn't do so well. and so, maybe it's more foreign
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policy advice and less tactical advice, that he's giving. >> it's a perfect example of how, donald trump, there are different roles that apply to him. one of the main reasons rudy giuliani didn't take off, is he historically didn't have strong enough position against abortion. you can certainly say the same thing against donald trump. it's a clip that plays over and over again, but it doesn't matter. >> says his position has evolved all these years later. all right, guys, thanks very much. don't forget, this thursday, the five remaining republican candidates meet in the next republican presidential debate in houston, texas. i'll be monitoring, the debate begins 8:30 p.m. eastern thursday night only here on cnn. up next, with a win in nevada, hillary clinton prepares for the next vote in south carolina. will she change her strategy? and the fight between the fbi and apple heating up again over the san bernardino shooter's encrypted cell phone. what would a win for apple mean for you? de you have to feel healthy... your core. trubiotics a probiotic from one a day
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hillary clinton is spending her day in california today. she has three fund-raising events around los angeles, while senator bernie sanders is on the other side of the country, campaigning mainly today in massachusetts, with a surprise stop in south carolina earlier this morning.
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clinton fresh off of her win in nevada heads into saturday's south carolina primary with a formidable lead among democratic voters in that state. a cnn poll of polls in south carolina shows that she has about 57% support to bernie sanders' 32%. our senior washington correspondent, jeff zeleny, is in charleston, south carolina for us. so what's giving hillary clinton this impressive lead, at least according to all the polls in south carolina? >> reporter: wolf, there's no question she's coming into south carolina with a big advantage. she's had that advantage here for a long time. not necessarily that unusual, because she's so much -- you know, she's established here, she's well known here, she's been campaigning here for a long time. bernie sanders is hoping to cut into at least some of that support. but they're fairly realistic about the uphill battle that they have here in south carolina. primarily because of african-american voters. you know, in 2008, some 55% of the electorate, of the democratic electorate, were black voters. it's likely to be about the same this time. and of that, wolf, even more
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importantly are african-american female voters. that's exactly who the clinton campaign is going after, the sanders' campaign is trying to make inroads into, but the clinton campaign, although she is fund-raising today, she has quite a bit of activity going on on the ground here in south carolina and she will all week. she's campaigning with the mothers of children who have been shot in a -- supposed of violence, of gun battles and what not. so they are putting their support behind her, as a way to say that she is stronger on gun control than bernie sanders. but bernie sanders is trying to reach out to young voters with his economic message, hoping that they respond to that here, wolf. >> you know, she did get about 75% of the african-american vote in the nevada caucuses saturday night. which bodes well, looking ahead to south carolina this coming saturday. the delegate count on the democratic side, hillary clinton right now has, what, 496 delegates? most of those super delegates,
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compared to 69 delegates for bernie sanders. so from a delegate count perspective, she is way ahead right now. and that's impressive. >> it is significant, wolf. no doubt about it. and this is the end of the -- or the beginning of the phase of the delegate fight. now, pledged delegates are exactly tied right now. that could change a little bit because of some new precincts coming in, in nevada this afternoon. but right now, they both have 51. but the super delegates, those party leaders who have pledged their support for her, she is overwhelmingly leading in that. but bernie sanders had a message today when he was campaigning in south carolina. he was telling voters, don't let other people decide. you should decide for yourself. let's listen. >> we've got a lot of work ahead. do not allow people to say to you, we can't do this, it's too big an idea. if we take that mentality, and go back, nothing would have ever been accomplished.
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if we had that mentality of thinking small, you think we would have an african-american as president of the united states today? 100 years ago, women couldn't even vote in america. >> reporter: so specifically, they're asking women voters to give him a look. but, wolf, he's going to be in south carolina tomorrow, as well. as the clinton campaign, they're going to be at that cnn town hall meeting tomorrow evening. but after that, he'll have one eye at least focused on those critical super tuesday states voting one week from tomorrow. if he hopes to make a lead in this delegate fight, he needs to make inroads on that big collection of states that comes one week from tomorrow, wolf? >> jeff zeleny, thank you. while hillary clinton scored an important win in nevada and has a lead in south carolina, according to all the polls, she's also still sharpening her message in her fight with senator bernie sanders, here's a bit of her new ad her campaign just released earlier this morning on youtube, which talks about the water crisis in flint, michigan.
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>> she said, when i heard about it, i was sick. i contacted the mayor, he says, what do you want me to do? her immediate instinct is, what can i do to make it better. and she said the mayor said, what i want hillary to do is go on national television and don't do an interview about politics or anything else, just talk about why we need all this money so we can save these lives. she did, they got the money. she is a, what can we do candidate. she is a walking changemaker. you need a president to make something happen for you. >> let's discuss. joining us now is karen finney, the senior spokesperson for the hillary clinton campaign, joining us from columbia, south carolina. karen, thanks very much for joining us. that ad with the former president of the united states, it hits hard on this notion that she can deliver, i guess, the implication is that bernie sanders can't. is that the point you're trying to make? >> well, the point we're trying to make, wolf, is that if you look at hillary clinton's
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record, she is someone who has a record of delivering change, and what happened in flint, michigan, is one example where she got involved and wanted to try to make change happen and try to make things better. obviously, folks in flint have a long way to go, because there's just so many layers, you know, of just neglect that have gone on from the governor there. but that is her message, but, you know, also, i would say, you know, hillary clinton is a person who has been a changemaker and an agent of change her whole life. i mean, you remember, as first lady, she brought a lot of changes to that role. so, i see this as being, you know, a part of who she's been her whole life. and the record that she has developed her whole life, of really trying to deliver results that will have a meaningful impact in people's lives. >> because a lot of hillary clinton supporters say, you know what, senator bernie sanders, he's got some good talk, but there's really no action there. he can't deliver. are you suggesting that? >> i'm suggesting that if you take a look at hillary's record,
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you are going to find someone who time and time again has figured out a way to deliver real results for people. whether it was, you know, her first job out of law school, right here in south carolina, working on a case to get teenage boys who were being incarcerated with adults, with men, to get that changed, so starting a legal aid clinic in arkansas, to, you know, she tried to get universal health care. when that didn't work, she came back and got to work on health care for kids. to the work that she did in the senate, on criminal justice reform, on protecting our right to vote, on expanding the c.h.i.p. program. so what we're talking about is, we want folks to know that hillary clinton is someone who is always going to work hard to deliver results for you and your family. and we think that's a really important message, you know something, wolf, particularly here in south carolina, where folks with a couple of big issues, number one, obviously, gun safety is a huge issue, and
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so that's a real point of contrast that we've just pointed out, we'll be talking about, but also this larger idea of how do we break down barriers that are holding people back. she gave a big speech about that last week. it's a big part of what we'll be talking about this week. it's not just how we break down barriers. how do we deliver real change when we do it? >> how about the trust issue. you saw all the exit polls and entrance polls, that they apparently trust bernie sanders more than they trust the voters, at least, than they trust hillary clinton. how do you deal with that? >> you know, wolf, i have to tell you, my belief is, when voters are going to the polls and they are casting that vote, they are voting for the person they trust to deliver change. they -- the person they trust to get things done. the person that they trust to keep our country safe. the person they trust who is going to protect and build on president obama's legacy, particularly when we talk about the affordable care act, which is critically important in the african-american community, not
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just here in south carolina, but throughout the country. that's how i view the trust question. >> karen finney, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. >> and tune in tomorrow night for a another cnn presidential town hall. hillary clinton and bernie sanders come face to face with the voters of south carolina. our own chris cuomo moderates in columbia, south carolina. the town hall starts tomorrow night, 8:00 p.m. eastern, only here on cnn. an emotional day for the justices of the u.s. supreme court. it's the first session since the death of justice antonin scalia. in opening remarks, the supreme court chief justice, john roberts says, today marks the loss of our friend and colleague who died unexpectedly, adding, skooel was our man for all seasons and we will miss him beyond measure. the high court resumed work just two days after scalia was laid to rest. he died in his sleep at a texas ranch on february 13th.
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any minute now, a michigan uber driver accused of going on a shooting spree will be arraigned. police say 45-year-old jason brian dalton killed six people, wounded two others in an apparent random rampage. a source says he picked up uber fares in between the killings, which took place over several hours. president obama addressed the shootings just a couple of hours ago. >> i called the mayor, the
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sheriff, and the police chief there, and told them that they would have whatever federal support they needed in their investigation. their local officials and first responders, by the way, did an outstanding job in apprehending the individual very quickly. but, you got families who are shattered today. earlier this year, i took some steps that will make it harder for dangerous people, like this individual, to buy a gun, but clearly, we're going to need to do more if we're going to keep innocent americans safe. >> cnn's ryan young is joining us now from kalamazoo in michigan. what do we expect at the arraignment that's about to take place? >> reporter: well, wolf, we know this arraignment should happen around 1:30, so we're sitting here waiting to figure out the charges they're going to lay against this man. the warrant has been issued for him. one of the things that stands out, law enforcement officials will also point this out, as the president was talking, just the
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idea this man had no criminal history. he did pass the uber background check, had no criminal history, lawfully had that gun. he was the father of two. so a lot of people in this community are surprised by the fact that this happened. you're talking about a man who went on a shooting rampage that started around 6:00, according to police, where he shot a woman in front of several kids, her own kids. that woman survived. he moved on, several hours later, to another location, where a father and son were at a car dealership, shot and killed both of them. a girlfriend to that son dove into the car to hide from that shooting. then 15 minutes later, he left and went to a cracker barrel restaurant, shot four women in their cars, killing all of them, and a 14-year-old girl, who they first thought was dead and survived. she's in critical condition. all of this happening with man who had never had a criminal history and according to people in this town, law enforcement officials, they hadn't encountered him before. >> so are they getting any closer at all, ryan, to figuring out a motive? >> you know, that's the question that we all try to nail down on,
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wolf, as soon as we had that news conference on sunday, we were asking that question about motive. we know he had contact with somebody inside the car, during one of those uber rides, and whether or not what happened there, we were also at the house yesterday, when they pulled the nine to ten boxes of evidence, large boxes, out of his house. but right now, police are keeping that motive and what happened next very close to the vest. they told us over and over again, they were worried about the prosecution involved in this case, and they could not share that information with us. so wolf, we're still trying to figure out exactly what could have set this man off. at the same time, he had people inside his car for several hours between each of these shootings, according to the police officers. >> an awful situation. all right, ryan young in kalamazoo, let us know what happens at the arraignment once it takes place. up next, we'll get back to the presidential campaign here in the united states and the money game. we'll take a closer look at who has more, how it could affect the race, lots more, coming up.
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you may have ibs. bloating? ask your doctor if non-prescription ibgard is right for you. ibgard calms the angry gut. available at cvs and walgreens. welcome back. let's check the scorecard now in the republican race for the presidential nomination. the texas senator ted cruz won the first contest in iowa, donald trump followed up that with wins in new hampshire and then in south carolina. trump holds a big lead in the delegate count right now. he has 67. cruz has 11, rubio has 10. there are 30 at stake tomorrow in nevada. but the big prizes come march 1st. that so-called super tuesday, more than 600 delegates could be won on that day. let's discuss all of this and more, joining us, angela ry, political strategist, former executive director of the congressional black caucus. also joining us, doug heye,
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former communications director for the republican national committee. the money talk right now is significant, but the delegate count is important, especially looking the to super tuesday. >> one of the real significant things for donald trump wasn't just winning big in the vote total in south carolina, but getting all of the south carolina delegates. >> all 50. >> all 50. and by the time we get through super tuesday, a third of republican delegates will have been decided. that's significant for trump, and it shows that he's not only in a good position to be the nominee, but he's doing what he needs to not just win vote totals and garner news coverage, which he does really well at, but the delegate who is determine the ultimate winner. >> cruz did win in iowa, but didn't do so great, didn't win in new hampshire and south carolina. he's got to get some wins now, especially right now, all the indications are the nevada caucuses tomorrow night, they look like trump has a big lead over there. >> and i think that part of cruz's problem is that he's pitched himself as this antiestablishment candidate, which would pit him directly into competition, of course, donald trump. he needs to get closer to where marco rubio is, i think, at all, to indicate that he could be the
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potential establishment candidate right now. the republican party is trying to harness their collective power to beat off donald trump, to say we need someone who represents the establishment and ted cruz is not that guy. >> the republican establishment may not like donald trump, but they don't like ted cruz either. >> and he's been banking on that. but the challenge for cruz, he's campaigned heavily not only to win his home state of texas, but to do really well in the south. what we saw in south carolina was not only did he underperform with evangelicals, but with non-evangelicals, he got 15% of the vote. we've asked a lot if donald trump has a ceiling, we need to ask if ted cruz has a ceiling as pel. >> where does the jeb bush money support go as far as cruz and rubio, trump, john kasich, ben carson? >> most will probably go to marco rubio. the rubio campaign was reaching out to bush supporters before bush pulled out. but some will go to kasich. stanley miller only invests smartly. he's gotten behind john kasich. that's good news for john kasich, who really runs the risk
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of being left out of the conversation. >> and folks have a also asked questions about whether ted cruz could get the texas money. i think that's also a challenge. w. hasn't given him a very ringing endorsement, f unfortunately. >> could be good for rubio if they react against cruz in texas. >> and hillary clinton obviously needed the win the other day in south carolina. she got about 75% of the african-american vote. i'm talking about, in nevada, excuse me. she got about 75% of the african-american vote. as important as that african-american vote is in nevada, it's even more important in south carolina, which comes up saturday. >> it's hugely important. i think that's why we saw hillary clinton, of course, put out a new ad with the voice of god, morgan freeman, of course, talking about her experience with supporting juvenile justice reform and working for marianne wright edelman and all of the things she touts when she's talking to black voters. i think what's most significant about the electorate, they make up more than 50% of democratic
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primary voters. that is a huge source of power and a reason why both she and bernie sanders need to be talking to black voters. >> hillary clinton certainly campaigned throughout all these states eight years ago. now that she's obama's top outlie, she'll do well in those african-american heavy southern states, which is what super tuesday is all about. she's not only in a good position having won in nevada, she's really going to where she should have her real strengths. >> she's got a lot of money. both have a significantly amount of money. they've spent about $170 million so far, with just peanuts, obviously. hillary clinton, apparently, has twice as much money on hand right now than bernie sanders. but he raises a lot of money. he's very impressive. hillary sat down with our own jake tapper the other day to talk about her campaign, questions voters have about her. listen to this. >> i think there's an underlying question that may be is really in the back of people's minds, and that is, you know, is she in it for us or for herself? i think that's a question that people are trying to sort
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through. >> she's, obviously, trying to hone her skills right now, going into all these contests right now, south carolina, then super tuesday. >> sure, and i think it was strategic and smart they had behind us while she's raising that question, fighting for us. so there's no real subliminal message there. i think she's clear on where she hopes voters will find her. i think the other thing hillary clinton need to continue to do is cut into bernie sanders' clear favor with young voters. we continue to see that being a problem in the exit polling from nevada. even though that she benefited from the fact that there was lower turnout. of course, there was 40,000 people less than what we saw. >> you'll agree, she's the front-runner on the democratic side right now? >> she's absolutely the front-runner. and to your point about young voters, as we get into march, a lot of young voters won't be on those college campuses. they'll be in cancun or ft. lauderdale, or, you know, any place on spring break, which means it will be tougher to marshal those young voters to vote if they're not on campus. >> but bernie sanders says,
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polls are one thing, let the people vote and see what they decide to do. so we'll do exactly that. we'll see what the voters want. guys, thanks very much. still ahead, it could be the first step in stopping the violence in syria. that's the hope. we have details of a new agreement just announced that could take effect as early as this week. you don't have to st. tylenol® 8hr arthritis pain has two layers of pain relief. the first is fast. the second lasts all day. we give you your day back. what you do with it is up to you. tylenol®. i accept i do a shorter i set these days.22. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. but i won't play anything less than my best. so if there's something better than warfarin, i'm going for it. eliquis. eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, plus it had significantly less major bleeding than warfarin... eliquis had both...
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. all right. this just coming in. we have learned that president obama has called the russian president, vladimir putin, on an effort to stop some of the fighting inside syria. the u.s. and russia just announced the plan for a cessation of hostilities between some, but key words, not necessarily all of the various groups inside syria. it would take effect midnight friday. secretary of state john kerry sent out this statement, and i'm quoting him now, i am gratified to see the final arrangements concluded today for a cessation of hostilities in syria and call on all parties to accept and fully comply with its terms if implemented and adhered to, this cessation will not only lead to a decline in violence, but also to continue to expand delivery of urgently needed humanitarian supplies to besieged areas.
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that statement from secretary of state john kerry. all this comes on the heels of two attacks in syria over the weekend, that killed 198 people and injured hundreds more. our senior international correspondent, nick paton walsh, is joining us. he's monitoring the situation from nearby beirut. give us more details of this agreement. i take it, nick, isis and some other terror groups are not part of the cessation of hostilities. >> reporter: absolutely. they are off the agreement and specified as excluded from it. now, it lays out a detailed sort of timetable, if you like. and i should caution you, you know, we've heard these plans before and groups have stood up and very demonstrably said they want nothing to do wit. but what we should see, by noon, friday, damascus time, is groups who are supposed to be part of this, so russia, the regime, those militia assisting them and the syrian opposition groups, they should have declared by noon on friday, damascus time, that they'll take part in this
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cease-fire. 12 hours later, then midnight between friday and saturday, the cease-fire should begin. all guns should fall silent. everybody is supposed to adhere to that basic principle. then after that, the u.s., russia, and the u.n.'s representative will assist in clarifying misunderstandings, perhaps even exchanging information about positions. that's been something in the past that russia's requested, but not been given to them. the biggest issue here, that's mistrust, and that's how this all potentially could fall apart. because while isis and nusra, the face of al qaeda in syria, are not supposed to be part of this deal, russia has in the passed been accused of attacking syrian opposition groups who are more moderate, but claiming, instead, they're attacking isis. it's all about who's really affiliated with who, and this is where it gets extraordinarily messy. could, for example, russia claim that some of the moderate groups who fought alongside the nusra front in some of the coalitions successful against the syrian government? could they claim then legitimate targets? that's where it gets potentially
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very messy. but it's been the choreography that's been so fascinating. we've seen john kerry, lengthy discussions, pacing this. but they'll refer how they need vladimir putin to talk to barack obama for it to come into effect. that phone call has happened, the kremlin talking about it, but the call was made after the kremlin requested it. quote, this is a moment of opportunity and it is the result of tenacious diplomacy. yes, there is potentially opportunity in the air, just simply to get the violence to lull for a moment, but many critics say, look, there's a problem with this diplomacy, when it continually fails, you begin to undermine the mere notion of the negotiation having any point. and many will look at this midnight between friday and saturday as a time when if the guns don't fall silent, it may mark a moment where many sides think that talking is less fruitful than ever. wolf? >> let's hope . hundreds of people have been killed, millions forced to flee
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the country. millions more are homeless and displaced inside syria. let's hope for the best. nick payton walsh reporting for us. thank you. why the fbi director in the united states is asking everyone to take a deep breath over the agency's fight with apple. el he. your core. trubiotics a probiotic from one a day naturally helps support both your digestive and immune health by combining... ... two types of good bacteria. trubiotics. be true to your health.
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harsher truths of this case. >> the issue is extremely simple. the answer is very complicated. wolf, doesn't matter which -- who says what. it always comes down to the same question. who do you trust more, apple with your data or the fbi and the law enforcement looking after our physical safety? here's what it really boils down to. if we as a society decide to deny law enforcement access to these phones, which is our prerogative to so do, then there will be a price to be paid. a terrorist attack that may not be foiled. a crime that may not be solved. a future crime that may not be put off. and what are we as a society prepared to pay? that really is what this is all about. no matter what the fbi says today or tim cook or mark zuckerberg or google. we know their positions. we have to decide who are we happiest following and what we're prepared to pay and the
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cost if we decide to deny them access to the information, wolf. >> richard, the fbi director james comey made his own argument sunday in an important blog, and he wrote this. he said, the san bernardino litigation isn't about try to set a precedent or send any kind of message. it is about the victims and justice. 14 people were slaughtered. many more had their lives ruined. we owe them a thorough and professional investigation under law. that's what this is. what about that argument he makes? >> it's a strong argument. but it's a sophisticated one that doesn't allow for the fact it is that apple would say, fine, so we give the u.s. government with all the judicial safeguards, we give them access to this one phone. what happens when the british government asked? and then the german government? well, we're still in the realms of democracy, that's all well and good. now we get to turkey.
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turkey wants to defeat the auto wipe and then russia and then maybe cambodia and chinese finally say to apple, we wish you to defeat the auto wipe of this phone. and by the way, here's a court order from the beijing court instructing you to do so. i can see the argument. as i said, right at the beginning, wolf, it's a very simple debate between two sides with complicated issues. but what are we prepared to say yes and no to with law enforcement. because i promise you this, wolf, if we deny law enforcement of any country the information, then there will be a price and we have to be comfortable paying it. >> so basically what you're saying is there's a precedent here that potentially could be very dangerous. is that what you're suggesting? >> that is exactly what i'm suggesting. but that precedent is on both sides. the precedent on the side of apple to deny. the precedent on the fbi to deny. when the case of apple, you're opening up digital privacy.
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in the case of the fbi, you're opening up the potential against physical safety. and the manhattan d.a. said to me in an interview, law enforcement has the job of protecting people, not apple and google. so yes, wolf, there is a precedent on both sides, and we need to decide which we're more comfortable with. >> it's a huge, huge issue right now that is being debated across the country. as you point out, indeed, around the world right now. we'll continue to watch the story for our viewers. richard quest, thank you very much as usual. now to a very different story that we've been following. a wonderful story. a life long dream has come true for 106-year-old woman, virginia mclauren started a social media campaign to meet with the obamas, saying it would be an honor to get to visit with the country's first african-american president and first lady. when that meeting finally took place, mclauren was so excited, she literally danced with joy.
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watch. >> hi! >> how are you? >> i'm fine. >> it's so nice to see you. so what's the secret -- i know dancing. >> just keep moving. i thought i would never live to get in the white house. >> you are here. >> and i tell you, i am so happy. >> we are happy to have you. >> a black president. >> look at him, right there. >> a black wife. >> that's me. >> and i'm here to celebrate black history. >> exactly right. we're glad to have you here. >> you have just made my day, do you know that? that energy. >> i love virginia mclauren. she's there to celebrate black history month.
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106 years old. a wonderful, wonderful woman. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'll back, 5:00 p.m. eastern, in the "situation room." for international viewers, "amanpour" is next. for north america, "newsroom" with pamela brown starts right now. hello, i'm pamela brown in for brooke baldwin. thank you for being here with us on this monday. so will tomorrow help turn donald trump into something that doesn't often come out of nevada? a sure bet. the republican caucuses are tomorrow evening. trump is now basking in the fact that every republican who's won primaries in both south carolina and new hampshire has become the presidential nominee. in this election, runner-up doesn't necessarily mean down and out. marco rubio's strong finish in south carolina may have just cinched him as the traditional candidate the republican party has been