tv Legal View With Ashleigh Banfield CNN February 26, 2016 9:00am-10:01am PST
you are not a trump when you say perrer. no question about that. what do you think -- what do you think -- does he change strategy? >> divert. deflect. insult. deflect. keep the ball moving. keep people distracted, shifting people's attention. i can only imagine whatever it will be it will be to focus our attention on the shiny bright object for five more minutes and don't look at what's possible vulnerabilities are. you're right. immigration is a vulnerability. no one attack works with donald trump. >> ryan williams, i want to give you a 30-second last word here. you know, again, you are no donald trump fan. how would you advise him to push forward toward super tuesday right now is. >> put the tax returns out right now. rip the band-aid off. we have the problem with governor romney in 2012 and released the taxes and after months of bad press, put them out now and get it orr with. >> christine, margaret, ryan, steve, thanks so much for being
with us. a busy hour. the entire campaign shifting and changing right before our very eyes. >> right here. amazing! thank you all so much for joining us. a a ashleigh bamfield takes it over from here on out. hello, everyone. welcome to "legal view." okay. that is it. until super tuesday. no more debates. no more cnn town halls. the two democrats, the five republicans. now they just stumped and speak and rally to try to persuade as many people in 13 different states to show up and either caucus or cast a primary vote for them. got a live shot here of bernie sanders right now. he is in minnesota busy, busy day on the trail. not just for him, for everyone in this race. just in this hour alone, feast your eyes on your screen.
four different candidates appearing at four different campaign events. all of them in super tuesday states. scheduled for right now, nashville, tennessee, senator ted cruz and in about 30 minutes, donald trump and ft. wor worth, texas. later this hour, hillary clinton in atlanta, georgia. of course, we try to dip in and show you some or all of those events just as soon as they get going. but just a few minutes ago i really hope you were watching. senator marco rubio went off. you could say he effective unloaded on donald trump at a rally live in dallas. and, man, was it intense. take a listen. so, you want to have a little fun? all right. what does donald trump do when things go wrong? he goes to twitter. let's rate some. you'll have fun. all right.
number one, here's the first one. lightweight marco rubio was working hard last night. this is true. the problem is he is a talker. and once a chalker always a choker. i guess that's what he meant to say. he spelled choker chalker. he called me mr. meltdown. last night "the turnaround" debate in one of the -- two of the breaks he went backstage. he was having a meltdown. first he had this little makeup thing applying like makeup around the mustache. he had a sweat mustache and this a full length mirror. i don't know why because the podium goes up there. maybe to make sure his pants weren't wet. i don't know. then -- [ cheering ] then i see him pacing back and forth and then huddled in the corner and waiving his arms up an down and person is trying to
calm him down. so, anyway. but i'm a chalker. all right. next tweet. leet weight chalker marco rubio looks like a little boy on stage. not presidential material. he meant to say lightweight and spelled it leight and he got that wrong. looks like a little boy on stage. i wouldn't be the youngest president but he would be the oldest president ever elected an enan eight-year term so you start to worry. all right. last one. wow. every poll said i won the debat lastnight. no. this is him about himself. okay? great honer. i think he meant to say great honor. the "e" and "o" are nowhere near each other on the keyboard.
[ inaudible ] three tweets misspell words so badly? i only reach two conclusions. number one, that's how they spell those words at the wharton school of business where he went. or number two, just like trump tower, he must have hired a foreign worker to do his own tweets. [ cheering ] >> oh! oh! it is on. as for last night's debate, the remaining five gop candidates were tougher on each other, more name calling and cheap shotty and interrupting than ever before. and right in the middle of it all, one level headed man appealing for calm. >> but we're not going to let them die in the streets. >> who pays for it? >> gentlemen, gentlemen, please. >> i want to clarify something. this is the republican debate, right? because that attack of letting people die in the streets of the government doesn't support health care -- >> gentlemen, gentlemen. >> refusing to answer the
question. >> senator cruz. >> it's a yes or no. >> people are not going to be dying on the sidewalks. >> all of you have agreed to the rules. i want to move on. >> i want to move on. boy, i think a lot of people wanted the move on. in between the shouting and the insults and wolf blitzer says gentlemen, please, the republican candidates actually did knock around some issues. some that they agree on and, of course, some that they really don't agree on. want you to watch this minute and a half primer on the cnn republican debate in houston. >> ladies and gentlemen, welcome the republican candidates for president of the united states. >> welcome to texas. >> you're the only person on this stage that's been fined for hiring people illegally on your projects. >> no, no. the only one that hired people. you haven't hired anybody. >> no. >> let me say, wolf, i find it amazing that donald believe that is he is the one who discovered the issue of illegal immigration. >> first of all, i don't believe
anything telemundo says. >> let me get governor kasich in. he's waiting patiently. governor kasich? >> talk about the plan. >> it says five things. everyone's dumb. going to make america great again. win, win, win. >> senator rubio, please! please stop! >> people say that i whine a lot because i don't get time. i'm going to whine. >> you get along with nobody. >> if you want to be liked in washington that's not a good attribute for a president. >> you don't learn anything about somebody's wealth with a tax return. >> gentlemen, please. i want to move on. >> this is the republican debate, right? that attack -- >> gentlemen, gentlemen. all of you have agreed -- >> first of all, this guy's a choke artist and this guy's a liar. >> palestinians are not a real estate, donald. >> no, no, no. a deal is a deal. i've learned a listening time ago. >> not when you're dealing with terrorists. >> you are not a negotiator. >> latest debate. >> please. he doesn't get to yell in all the time. >> these are the rules.
i promised governor kasich. >> can somebody attack me, please? >> wolf? wolf? >> that's my favorite line of the whole debate. could someone attack me, please? we pulled donald trump and marco rubio aside after the debate to see how it went from their perspective. donald trump doubled down on the new label he is using to describe senator marco rubio. >> the problem with marco, he chokes. he did it in front of chris christie. never seen anything like that. i was standing next to him. i look over, are you okay? i mean, it looked like he came out of a swimming pool. soaking wet and repeating himself, repeating himself. >> tried to use that on you today. >> i didn't do any repeating. i say what's -- >> i like donald personally. he is a charming guy. although he can turn on you in an instant. >> as you lrned firsthand. >> as you -- one minute he says he's my friend, he's terrific, i love him and then hurdling personal insults at you.
it depends on the side he woke up or his poll numbers. if they're up, he is happy. if his poll numbers dip, i mean, he really has a hard time with that. >> want to get some of the candidate's supporters in on this. ron naering runs the ted cruz campaign in the state of california. rose ann rodriguez with the republican party in east texas. and marco rubio's supporter, as well. adrianna cohen aligns herself with donald trump. rose ann, i'll begin with you, if i can. went to town on the stage by marco rubio and just after going on the network morning shows to double on what he said last night. took the gloves off against donald trump but is he going to be ready for the very dark and nasty bull's eye that's sure to be on his back right now? >> yeah. senator marco rubio is definitely ready. as you saw last night, he challenged him, took him on and pressed him for answers and
continued today. and on the morning shows and then continued after the rally. he is ready to make this about -- not only the issues, but about what donald trump really stands for and to kind of tear down at that mystique of what is donald trump. >> adrianna, i don't know if you had the memo or if there is such a memo or donald trump, your guy, flies by is seat of the pants and made a big announcement saying there's a -- something special about to happen at 12:30 with a press conference. i think he said it's a big announcement. i'm wondering if it has anything to do with the guy he is now embroiled with, marco rubio. do you know? >> you know, i don't have any inside information on that. i'm waiting just like everybody else. but i have to say i think the consensus is donald trump won the debate last night. that's what all the online polls said. that's the feedback. he's still dominating in all the polls and coming to tuesday, super tuesday, he is dominating in every state except for texas where senator cruz has a slight
advantage. and that might change over the next couple of days so he is positioned to basically sweep the table on tuesday. >> so ron, it's right -- she's right. adrianna is spot on. a lot of the polls, they say that he is absolutely, you know, he's just cruising down that lane to a win after a win after a win. and for a guy like cruz on the stage last night trying to go directly after his supporters and what sacred to them, both rubio and cruz going after him on immigration. they were saying things like, you hired illegal immigrants. you were fined for hiring illegal immigrants. you have had bankruptcies that made your little guy suffer. do you think, though, after all of the stuff that's not been sticking to donald trump any of that is going to? >> i don't think -- >> what you have seen last night -- >> sorry. that's for ron. go ahead. >> sorry. go ahead. >> i think what you saw last night is the stark contrast
between senator cruz's approach where he was very forward an direct offering concise answers, which demonstrated his breadth of knowledge and prepared to be president versus donald trump repeating himself, caught in not very well versed with the issues whatsoever and i think as this race changes, as we move from 17 candidates to 5 and then ultimately to 3 and 2 that donald trump has a real problem because those polls that he likes to brag about pretty much a ceiling because so many of the other candidates as they drop out, supporters don't go to donald trump, they go to other candidates and a lot of them wind up coming to us and moving forward we'll win in texas, do well in other super tuesday states, as well. texas has twice as many delegates, more than twice as donald trump won so far and this is a real game changer for us. marco rubio on the other hand is a burning dumpster fire to deal with and that's the terrible numbers in the state of florida. his own state. that state is winner take all. 99 delegates. down by 15 points there and
interesting to see how he diverts 0 resources to shore up the base in the state of florida while we go on and win texas on tuesday. >> if it's a burning dumpster fire, a great analogy, he may have had a big fire extinguis r er last night. koch brothers, the money out of nevada srks that what he's about to see as a winfall with the performance last night or does it remain to be seen where that money will go? >> definitely, we have already seen a tremendous amount of support come to marco rubio since governor bush dropped out. we believe that in florida we'll continue to get those supporters, those big donors who know that marco rubio is the only answer for our party. >> appreciate all three of you. thanks so much. adrianna, roseanne and ron. thank you to all three of you.
as i mentioned between the attacks and insults last night, the candidates did manage to work in a bit of policy here and there throughout the debate. we did hear something about the issues. and we heard some marked differences between those beliefs and issues that the voters needed to hear. we'll dig deeper into that and deliver them to you in the simplest of ways. 15 minutes from now expecting a donald trump news conference. live from texas. right before he speaks at a rally in ft. worth. live. don't go anywhere. the mikes are about to get super hot.
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>> the positions they're taking -- >> are you talking about you? >> you might not be aware of this, you don't follow it closely. >> i you're embarrassed and you but keep swinging. swing for the fences. i watched him melt down and one of the saddest thingless i have ever seen. >> you are a lot of fun up here tonight, i have to tell you. thank you for the book. >> donald, relax. >> i'm relaxed. you're the basket case. >> thank you, cnn politics, for making it so easy to get the highlights from last night's very long and very energetic debate. those are the best one liners. donald trump was the clear target. he was being attacked relentlessly. on one side from ted cruz and then marco rubio. and sandwiched between all of the insults were some pretty good conversations, though. policy. rubio and cruz bashing the billionaire about policy at every turn. >> my plan is very simple. i will not -- private -- we are
going to have private health care. but i will not allow people to die on the sidewalks and the streets of our country if i'm president. as far as planned parenthood is concerned, i'm pro-life. i'm totally against abortion having to do with planned parenthood but millions and millions of women are helped by planned parenthood. you can say whatever you want. >> i think i can see a political commercial coming out pretty quick. millions and millions of people helped in planned parenthood. it's my guess. i'm joined by commentators the host ben ferguson and strategist bob beckle. two of my favorite people, thank you, gentlemen, for being part of this. bob, i'll start with you. >> good to be here. >> guys, look. everybody who has taken a run at donald trump not come out the better for it. a lot of what they have taken a run at him for is the personal stuff. treating women. his crassness. that kind of stuff and
supporters don't give much of a hoot about that. >> sure. >> one thing they care a lot about is the first line out of the mouth every time on the stage is building a wall. the whole illegal immigrant thing and last night, bob, that was what rubio targeted and did not let up on. is that going to make a difference and going to stick among the supporters? >> i think it will. it's a little bit late. but listen. if they had this information that trump used all these workers to build trump towers who were immigrants on visas from poland, why didn't they use it before this? trump clearly on the defensive last night and the difference of last night and other attacks on trump is, one, it was jeb bush before and not a good attacker but they kept coming at him, at him, at him not letting him go and something that didn't happen to trump before and why he was so uncomfortable. there's something about trump where you get him down and continue to push and push and push his reaction becomes very, very uncomfortable.
>> uncomfortable to say the least. i have been on the receiving end of it. it was almost so physical so uncomfortable. with the stuff that sticks and the stuff that doesn't, his supporters are ferociously loyal. and again, much of it has to do with illegal immigration. if rubio continues and cruz jumps on and continues on that path about his paying fines for using illegal immigrants in some of his dealings, and for having these kinds of infractions, do you think it's going to stick or do you think bob's right? they should have done this a long time ago, too late. >> well, yeah. they should have done this a long time ago. i don't think it's too late. i think that it's certainly at this point is stopped a little bit of the trump momentum. the cruz campaign, the rubio campaign, their supporters specifically very concerned about the strong showing in nevada, especially when you saw the hispanic vote and how it went. this is going to completely change that dialogue now with voters going into super tuesday and donald trump the man saying
i'm going to fix immigration when people start googling and a thing that rubio did do, google it, this is new to the voters. hold on a second. donald trump paid fines for illegal immigrants and imported workers to do work that americans could have done. that is a complete opposite of what donald trump is saying. he recently saying to boycott companies exporting jobs. this will resonate with voters. ted cruz should be talking about it all day long. marco rubio, as well. paying a fine is a big deal. especially if it's significantly like we have been told. and i don't know why they didn't do this earlier on but at least now they're doing it. if i'm a trump supporter, i don't feel that great after all the other debates. last night he got beat up. >> supporters are fine with him beaten up. they love it because he's so aggressive. no matter what his comeback is,
his aggression is what think like, like that he takes no crap from anyone essentially. but here's the thing, bob. another first thing out of the mouth is i am the anti-politician. i'm not an insider. i've never been a politician. right? and most people love the fact that politicians who are always cagey about the words don't speak from the heart and donald does. but last night he spoke from the heart and may have come back to bite him in the butt. vincente fox, former president of the mexico, has salty language about the donald trump wall and he said i won't ever pay for that f'g law and here's what donald trump said about the lang wack, the f-word, right? he said this guy used a filthy, disgusting word on television and should be ashamed of himself and apologize. okay? i put a graphic up. cnn went back on some of donald trump's television appearances. speeches that were broadcast
live. and april of 2012 in las vegas, pop the graphic up, here's what he said about oil prices. you're not going to raise that f'g price. i'm quoting donald trump using the f-bomb and last night called filthy and disgusting and then from the same speech. listen you mother f-ers we're going to tax you at 25%. it's classic politician double speak. you say one thing but you have been doing another. vote earls hate that. will they give him a pass for it, though, bob? >> no. i don't think they will on that. look. trump -- for trump talking about using dirty language about as ridiculous as a murderer trying to tell mother theresa how to do things right. the fact is, trump is involved in politics a long time, given a lot of money, played new york city politics. he's brokered deals in new york city for politicians, come to washington to broker deals. yeah, he can broker deals. no question about it.
but down to that, what kind of deals was he brokering? what kind of deals to broker for getting the buildings built with the building trades union? when he said how do you pay for the wall? mexico's got $35 billion trade deficit with us. stop the stuff from coming in. remember a lot of stuff coming in are parts for cars, they're not cars. they're parts for cars coming in the united states to build cars in the united states. he's got to be careful about that. but whole point here is for once we saw them take him on and relentless about it and come back to it, back to it, back to it. i don't think trump is used to taking that heat for that period of time. >> it made for great tv. real quick, ben. >> yeah, no. one other thing i think you will see from the campaigns is what is the policy of donald trump and dictates the policy? when fox said this, he said the wall is ten feet taller and every policy he has if he's president insults him he's going
to build it bigger? you insulted the military and building it twice as big? that's not a commander in chief that i think can be trusted with the deficit. because you insult him, he decides to do something just to insult you back. that's not a leadership role there and i think -- >> so far -- >> they should exploit that to their advantage. >> supporters they have not minded that much. that's for sure. we'll have to see -- >> supporters love him and nothing he can say. >> we'll see. we'll see whether the attack on the immigration violations will bother his supporters. i have so much to ask you but i have things on the agenda. can you stick around? >> sure. >> sure. >> thank you. they'll stick around for a moment because just minutes from now expecting a donald trump news conference to start. ahead of a massive rally. i think 8,000 people at a ft. worth, texas, auditorium and wanted a q and a with the press first and said wait for a big announcement which is, you know, that's a big tease as the language is in our business.
but just ahead of this, we also have some other news to cover. happened in the debate and just beforehand. a second mass shooting in less than a week. this time it was in kansas. three people are dead today. 14 others who were shot are in hospital beds. a workplace massacre that could have been even worse had the police not acted so quickly. we'll update you. out on the town or in for the night, at&t helps keep everyone connected. right now at at&t, buy one get one free on our most popular smartphones. no matter how you hang out, share every minute of it. buy one get one free on our most popular smartphones.
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cnn debate in texas. once he takes live to that podium, after being introduced, we are going do get you there so that you can listen in. he has said there's going to be, quote, a big announcement. it's going to be made. can't wait for that. in the meantime, a story that broke just before the debate. not even been a week since that shooting in kalamazoo, michigan, and here we are again telling you about yet another shooting. this time in heston, kansas. a man shot three people before bursting in to the place he worked. a lawn care company. and shot 14 more people. three of those people died. 11 others are in the hospital. a deputy shot and killed 38-year-old cedric ford before he could do anymore harm. >> that particular officer's a hero out of all of this. understand there's probably 200
or 30 more people in that building while this is going on. this man was not going to stop shooting. the only reason he stopped shooting is because that officer stopped the shooter. >> our rosa flores is live in kansas right now. can you update us on how everyone is doing and just about motive? >> reporter: we are learning more about the motive from police. we are also learning more about the shooter, not only from authorities but also from his friend and witness, as well. let me take you through this. authorities say that this all started, this was a preliminary motive here, at about 3:30 yesterday when authorities served ford with a protective order. inside the building that you see behind me, somehow he left the building and then the shooting started at about an hour and a half after. at about 5:00, about 6 miles from here. so he starts shooting people
along the way until he gets here. now, we talked to one of the witnesses, a very good friend of the shooter. he said that he was standing outside in the parking lot when he sees this truck stop and kind of just halt the shooter opens the door and starts firing at one of the co-workers. he says it took them 30 seconds to process what he was experiencing, what he was watching. at that point in time, he says that he put the truck in reverse and got out of the parking lot, called 911 and say that is he went to his wife and to his little son, 12 days old. he said he had a very long hug with his family feeling very lucky that he was alive because the shooter, he says, was supposed to relieve him so that he could go out for break. and so, another one of his co-workers had to relieve him in order for him to be standing
outside and he says it's surreal how minutes, seconds saved his life. the individual that relieved him got shot. he is in the hospital. he's been talking to him. and he's really counting his blessings at this point in time. >> such an awful story. rosa flores live for us in hesston, kansas. any moment now, a big news conference about to get under way in ft. worth, texas. you can see hundreds of people have governmentered. two events will happen and they're both donald trump events. one is a news conference and presumably taking questions of the press and making a big announcement. he's not telling us what and then a massive rally. calling it a mega rally in ft. worth. all on the heels of the big debate last night in houston. stick around. quick break. right back after this. you both have a
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got some live waiting on a conference. donald trump is late for the press conference planning to hold and says he's going to take questions from the press and more importantly maybe he tweeted out to make a big announcement in texas. so that podium is waiting and ready for donald trump. so are 8,000 people he says are also gathering at a huge arena in ft. worth, texas, at the ft. worth convention center after the news conference. can't wait. i really can't wait. i'm godsmacked given what happened last night. it's remarkable when's happening. on those debate stages and last night's -- i keep saying it.
fieri fierier, more intense, agretszive. the barbs sharper. donald trump's tax returns a huge issue, a big one, after former presidential nominee mitt romney brought up the subject. listen to what trump had to say about it last night. >> i will absolutely give my returns but i'm being audited now for two or three years so i can't do it until the audit is fin initialled, obviously. i think people would understand that. >> i've been audited. it was the bummer. but i didn't understand what he had to say. i've never run for president. i can't. canadian. want to get a fact check on what he said. should audits prevent donald trump from being able to release his tax returns? either the current ones or the ones under audit for or the past ones? best person in the world to ask, christine romans. >> reporter: donald trump says he will not release his tax returns because he's being
austin daye itted. we asked the irs if there's a legal barrier to releasing a tax return during an audit. they said this, quote, nothing prevents individuals from sharing their own tax information. end quote. so trump could release his results if he wanted to or if his attorneys advise he could release the returns from the years before the audit. but the way, not a stretch that he's being audited. budget cuts mean the agency is focusing on the big fish, millionaire audits are up. what's in there that his republican rivals or the public find interesting? income, deductions, charitable donations, himself, doing it through a company or a foundation? what were the causes he supports? what share of the income does he donate? valuable information to other candidates and the public in deciding whom to vote for and trump's tax returns with a tax rate, effective tax rate.
trump said he works hard to pay as little tax as possible. mitt romney criticized in 2012. his effective tax rate 14% when he released the returns. that was about a month before the general election. now, romney's on the offensive against trump claiming there's a quote bombshell no one knows about. if trump doesn't want to disclose the tax returns, he doesn't have to. >> thank you. i should mention, as well, that our chris cuomo asked donald trump after the debate what he thought about the processing, why he is audited and he said, maybe because of the fact i'm a strong christian. i feel strongly about it, maybe there's a bias. i'm not sure i -- never mind. still waiting and watching for donald trump. the podium is readily. the people and press is excited because he says there's something big coming, a big announcement is coming. 44 minutes after the hour. and we're still waiting on donald trump and going to bring it to you next after all those
in your face arguments last night. could it be something to do with rubio, the guy who went at him last night and this morning? they agreed on a controversial thing. that puts them at odds with the tech world. not to mention millions of americans who value their privacy and their iphones. it's coming up next.
okay, folks. live to the ft. worth convention center. the pictures are blurry but the content is key and the guy who's walking up to the mike is new jersey governor chris christie. let's listen. >> i'm doing this for a number of reasons. first is that donald and i along with mary pat and melania have been friends over a decade. he's been a good and loyal friend to our families and we have had a wonderful times together. done a lot of good together for not only the people of the state of new jersey but for many charities we have worked with and on together. and i have -- i absolutely
appreciate him as a person. and as a friend. secondly, i've been on that stage. i've gotten the know all the people on that stage. and there is no one who is better prepared to provide america with the strong leadership that it needs both at home and around the world than donald trump. he is looking at the five people on that stage last night the clear standout. and the person who will do exactly what needs to be done to make america a leader around the world again. he'll provide strong, unequivocal leadership and do what needs to be done to protect the american people first and foremost both in the homeland and in creating jobs for this country. and he will make sure that people around the world know that america keeps its word again. donald trump is someone who when he makes a promise he keeps it. i've experienced that over my long friendship with him and what the american people and our lies around the world will understand is that donald trump is someone who keeps his word
and that means america will keep its word again. third, there is no doubt in my mind and i've been saying this from the time i entered the campaign that the single most important thing for the party is to nominate the person to give us the best chance to beat hillary clinton. the one person that hillary and bill clinton don't want to see on that stage come next september is donald trump. they know how to run the standard political playbook against junior senators and run them around the block. they do not know the playbook with donald trump because he's rewriting the playbook. he's rewriting the play book of american politics providing strong leadership not dependent upon the status quo and so the best person to beat hillary clinton in november on that stage last night he's undoubtedly donald trump. and so, i am thrilled to be here this morning. to lend my support. i will lend my support between
now and november every way that i can for donald to make the campaign an even better campaign than it's already been and do what he needs to do to help to make the country everything we want it to be for our children and grandchildren. he's a good friend. he's a strong and resolute leader. and he's someone who is going to lead the republican party to victory in november over hillary clinton which is the single most important thing we can do. so i thank him for his friendship. i thank him for all of the kindnesses that we have shared with each other over the year and leaving the private sector, for seeing that there was a need for strong leadership in this country and for being willing to step out of the private sector and come and offer himself for public service and for leadership in this country at a time when our party and our nation so desperately needs it. happy to be on the trump team and i look forward to working with him. thank you, sir. >> thank you. thank you very much, chris. great honor. mark? [ inaudible ]
>> i want to ask what he thinks about -- >> okay. >> what you think of senator rubio calling trump a con artist. >> is that what he called me? >> a lot of things. but i want to ask you -- >> he's a desperate guy. down about 22 points in florida. >> rally against -- when do you think -- >> that's not happening. go ahead, chris. >> listen. the fact is that desperate people do desperate things. and i've seen it throughout politics and so have you. and so, the idea that marco rubio can get inside donald trump's head is an interesting proposition but one that's for the d.c. parlor game. donald trump is about the people of this country. you know, you heard -- i heard some of senator rub yoes' comments this morning. none of them about the people of this country. when are we going to start talking about them? the fact that middle class folks in the country are suffering. the fact that people who want jobs can't get them because think eef been taken away. we can't any longer stand up and
defend ourselves around the world because we have a leader that wrings his hands. i didn't hear that this morning from senator rubio. desperate people in campaigns do desperate things. flailing punches in the last days of a losing campaign. fact of the matter is no one's going to get inside this guy's head. he has lived a lot of life. he's had lots of fights in battles. i have watched him do it and there is no better fighter than donald trump and he's going to fight for the american people and you didn't hear senator rubio talk about any of that this morning. >> mr. trump? >> john? >> two things. this is a big endorsement. >> i agree. to me it is a very big endorsement. >> you said endorsements don't matter much. >> generally speaking, i'm not big on endorsements. i could have had many. i have quite a few good ones and could have had many, many. i didn't want to take the time and the dinners and everything else. this is an endorsement that meant a lot. chris is an outstanding man. with an outstanding family.
he's done a great job. and i think that this is the one endorsement that i felt strongly about, i wanted to get. >> marco rubio talking about -- the debate -- he suggested that you were sweating backstage. >> backstage, if you would like, i walked back there. he is with a pile of makeup putting it on his face. i said, wez the makeup. you don't need that much. i watched him against this man and marco, right over here and i actually looked at him. i said, are you okay? he looked like he just came out of a swimming pool. he was a mess. we'll see what happens. but no. i heard he had nasty personal comments but i saw him backstage and he was putting it on with a trowel. yes? katy? >> foreshadowing vice presidential -- >> just would have never had that discussion. chris called. we have this great relationship. and i just said, wow. that is really great.
that is really great. to me, this is something that means -- outstanding person. amazing person. >> mr. trump? >> you said that hillary clinton shouldn't be allowed to run for president -- [ inaudible ] >> excuse me. that's a civil case. i have won much of it. excuse me, excuse me. i have won much of it. it's a peanut case. very small case. i could have settled it many times. i could settle it now. i don't want to settle it. excuse me. i go through court, often. i win the cases. i have a very good record and i don't like -- this is people wanting to get the money back. most signed a report card. they said how great it was and then sue you years late tore get the money back. we'll win the case. takes a little while. much of the case is already been won. go ahead. [ inaudible ]
>> first of aull, let me respon to that. i'm a former federal prosecutor. to try to compare a civil lawsuit to the mishandling, to the mishandling of classified information, much of which i can tell you we used to have to go to specialized rooms that were sealed from any type of intrusion to look at on a private e-mail server in mrs. clinton's basement in new york to try to compare that to a civil lawsuit where someone's suing for money is a complete misunderstanding, a complete misunderstanding. excuse me. no. listen. no, listen. it's a complete -- you're setting up a question that you're trying to -- no, no, no. let me finish. you're trying to equate a civil lawsuit against him with the mishandling of classified information that could put american national security at risk. it's ridiculous.
now, on your question, here's my process. her's my process on how i went through this. fact is after the campaign was over, mary pat and i went home and we took a deep breath. i got back to preparing my budget for the state of new jersey which i needed to do a week after the mn hn primary and present that to the people of new jersey. and then we sat down as a family. me and mary pat and our children and we talked about do we want to play any other role in the campaign or just not? i concluded along with mary pat and the children support it to be with the person we thought to provide the longest leadership for america and the person who could best make sure that hillary clinton never gets within ten miles of the white house. once we made that decision, it was clear the only choice was donald trump. the best choice was donald trump. and last thing is our family is one that prides loyalty and the fact is that we have been good friends with donald and family for many years. and there was no choice in my
mind and when did i make the final decision? yesterday morning. i met with donald. we sat and talked. and he said how about coming out on the road to texas with me. and i said, happy to do it. that's how we did it and that's how the process went. >> governor christie, any campaign -- [ inaudible ] >> unprepared. marco rubio said he's wholly unprepared today. how do you evaluate mr. trump on -- [ inaudible ] >> i find this fascinating that someone who barely shows up for work in the six years he's the united states senator talks about somebody else unprepared. the fact of the matter is
senator rubio shown himself over the course of time wholly unprepared to be president of the united states. nothing's changed my mind now. fact is this is the only guy on that stage other than governor kasich who's made executive decisions. who's had to make executive decisions throughout his life, who understands how to put together budgets, how to make sure that money is spent e ferntly and effectively to create profit and makes sure the country is on track. this guy knows how better than anybody on the stage. this campaign has a long way to go, a long way to go. and there's going to be lots of conversation still to cov but the confidence i have is he's strong enough to take on the d.c. establishment which is what's represented by, you know, senator rubio. the d.c. establishment against a guy to come in and fight the establishment to turn around when's happening in the country, the failure of both parties to be able to do anything that's worthwhile. i can't to have great conversations about the campaign