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on women and work and why maternity leave makes for better profits and families. set your dvr to record "outfront" show sew you can watch the show any time. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. get ready to do what we've all been doing all day. marveling at what we've been seeing and hearing on the campaign trail. last night 14 1/2 million viewers got a look at donald trump and marco rubio and ted cruz trading insults during cnn's republican debate in houston. while he, trump, john kasich and the clintons on the democratic side are stumping right now in advance of super tuesday and tomorrow's democratic primary in south carolina, the real story is not all that campaigning. instead it's how utterly different the tone of it is on the republican side. not just different from the democrats who, after all, have bitterly contentious campaigns of their own before but how dus
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tin distinct this is from anything we've seen in either party. last night the gloves came off between trump and rubio. to some extent the wheels came off as well. and today, which might otherwise have been dominated by the big endorsement trump picked up, it remained on the feud which got uglier. also my interview which turned the fused between trump and mexico's former president thermonuclear. jim acosta starts us off from a super tuesday state, oklahoma. trump really going after rubio today. what's the latest tonight? >> that's right, anderson. it's going to get worse before it gets better. the race for the gop nominee has descended into trading insults. donald trump is on stage right now. he's already gone after marco rubio. it's important to note what marco rubio said today. he's trying to crack the code for defeating trump. he decided to answer cutdowns with kucutdowns.
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he said trump asked for a full-length mirror to see if he had wet himself. trump fired back and said rubio sweat so much, it's disgusting. >> they hate him in florida. they hate him. you know what? he defrauded florida, if you think about it. he runs. he becomes a senator. he never shows up to vote. he's never around. and they don't like him. he's not doing well. >> reporter: trump said far worse earlier today. this was a low light real. when he mocked the size of rubio's ears and his taste for water. here's what he had to say. >> he's a nervous basket case. here's a guy -- you ought to see him backstage. he was putting on makeup with a trowel. no, i don't want to say that. i will not say that he was
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trying to cover up his ears. i will not say that. out of nowhere, he goes -- on live television, he choked just like -- he's a choker. he choked with chris, and all of a sudden, he's being drained. and he goes like this. remember? i said where is he? and then he comes back with water. and, honestly, water is fine, but it should be in a glass. he's got the label of the company here and he's drinking. honestly, i've never seen anything like it. it's rubio! >> reporter: now trump did answer one of rubio's attacks from last night just a few moments ago insisting he did not get $200 million from his father. trump said it was $1 million and he paid it back, anderson.
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>> jim, the christie endorsement today, it certainly seems like a win-win for trump and christie himself. >> reporter: absolutely. that's right. there's sort of the straight talk duo right now. perhaps a preview of a presidential/vice presidential ticket later on. chris christie just introduced trump in oklahoma city saying rubio -- saying to rubio, your campaign is almost over, buddy. and you are right. just last month, christie warned voters in new hampshire if trump is the nominee, hillary clinton will win in november. so chris christie has had tough things to say about donald trump, but that's all in the past. we should point out this endorsement was quite a secret this week. trump and christie aides say the endorsement was worked out yesterday at trump tower in manhattan. they've been friends for years. and it should be noted after what happened in new hampshire when chris christie went after marco rubio. rubio had the robotic moment where he repeated himself.
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chris christie was never going to endorse marco rubio. chris christie said the reason he's going with donald trump, he feels he can beat hillary clinton and that this is no time to have junior senators back in the white house. sort of a dig at rubio, cruz and president obama. >> jim acosta, thanks. in this corner, marco rubio. jason carroll traveling with his campaign and joins us now from dallas. rubio kept on trump's case. what did he have to say? >> what didn't he have to say when he was out here at this rally earlier. it seems like every time he went after trump, the more the crowd seemed to cheer. he seems to call him every name in the book. a clown, a con man. the more he talked about trump, the more the crowd seemed to love it. >> he was having a meltdown. first his makeup thing applying like makeup around his mustache. he had one of those sweat
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mustaches. then he asked for a full-length mirror. i don't know why because the podium goes up to here. maybe to make sure his pants weren't wet. so how does this guy, not one tweet, three tweets misspell words so badly? and i only reached two conclusions. number one, that's how they spell those words at the wharton school of business where he went. or number two, just like trump tower, he must have hired a foreign worker to do his own tweets. >> reporter: a large crowd that came out to see rubio today. much larger than we've seen in the pafts. some in the crowd saying they were re-energize from his performance last night. i spoke to another supporter who said what he heard seemed to be out of character for senator rubio, but he understood why he had to do what he did. anderson? >> in terms of christie's endorsement, did rubio talk at all about that today? >> he has. and as you know, rubio has
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already picked up a number of endorsements from the republican establishment. senator orrin hatch, bob dole, just to name a few. rubio saying, i've already got a lot of endorsements out here. and as for the endorsement that trump just got, he said, look. this is a man who needed a lifeline after his performance last night. >> jason carroll, thanks for that. ted cruz kept it up today but also had a warning to fellow republicans. phil mattingly joins us from nashville. cruz talked about an unstoppable trump. what did he say? >> reporter: well, just that. and it's a recognition that this is a very dangerous moment. not just for republicans in general but also for the ted cruz campaign. the cruz campaign has never hid from very high expectations. on super tuesday, 11 states, mostly across the south where ted cruz has a big organization, has spent a lot of money and has very, very big ideas about what he can accomplish. not only do they expect to do
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very well in tex asweep a number of the 155 delegates there but pick up wins. ted cruz's point today was this. donald trump is rolling right now. three of the last four contests up in the polls. a lot of those s.e.c. primary states. if people don't coalesce around a single candidate, there is a very real possibility that this nomination is not just almost in the bag but could be almost all but over. >> how much did cruz continue to go after trump today? >> slightly more nuanced. maybe less bombastic. but no less cutting. and one of the more interesting attacks we heard from ted cruz today, they were strewn about. stuff on illegal immigration. a little on donald trump's hair. but probably the toughest that we heard was he brought up donald trump saying that he'd never asked for forgiveness from god. and then went on to talk about his past positions about trump. if he has in fact evolved on
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abortion, how can he then not ask for forgiveness? it's one that resonated with the crowd in nashville. not flailing of the arms or a lot of excitement in his cutting attacks on him but cutting nonetheless. >> phil mattingly, thanks. coming up next, what's a top republican campaign strategist thinks of all of this. and my conversation with mexico's former president vicente fox. wait until you hear who he compares donald trump to. he's already said profanely said that mexico would not pay for any trump wall. last night when asked about it, donald trump demanded that president fox apologize for the profanity. president fox's take on all of that just ahead. later, part of marco rubio's attack as you saw focussed on trump university. senator rubio all but calling it a con game. we'll check the facts on that when we continue.
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which helps explain why rubio finally launched a full attack. republican elders have been calling on someone, anyone to take him on. the fear in the party is with trump as their candcandidate, republicans may lose in november which raises the question, will the process of stopping him get so ugly the voters will also be turned off. first a quick recap of today's fist fight. >> what we are dealing with here, my friends, is a con artist. >> i thought he was going to die, rubio. he was so scared, like a little frightened puppy. >> he's implying i'm fighting for you because i'm a tough guy. a tough guy? this guy inherited $200 million. >> he was sweating so badly, i have never seen anything like it. it looked like he just jumped into a swimming pool with his clothing on. >> he's not a conservative. >> he's a choker. >> he's not a strong guy. >> rubio is a baby. >> no plan for health care. >> really weak on illegal
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immigration. >> no idea on how to balance the budget. >> basket case. >> friends do not let friends vote for con artists. >> it's not easy running for president. you get low lives like a guy like rubio saying horrible things. and who needs it? really, who needs it? >> joining us now is former romney presidential campaign strategist stewart stevens. author of "the last season." also washington examiner columnist and republican pollster, kristen sultis anders anderson. trump and rubio continuing the attacks that started at last night's debate. seeing some of your tweets last night, you were saying you really thought they should -- if they're going to continue it should almost have press conferences with some of the polish workers who had worked on trump tower, the undocumented worker and suing donald trump. do you think they're going to do that or do these campaigns even
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have the resources to launch that kind of sustained attack? >> you know, what's remarkable, anders anderson, i feel like trump has been in a race for 24 hours now. what happened last night should have happened in the first or second debate. trump is a ridiculous candidate for president, and the way to beat him is to look at him, say you are ridiculous. and then go through the bill of particulars as to why he's ridiculous. i thought that marco rubio was good last night. i thought his speech today was fantastic. i would just keep at it. go right at the core of him. it's really a whole series of educational steps they need to put before the voters. they need to go to atlantic city and hold press conferences in front of the bankrupt trump properties. they need to have students from
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trump university who have been cheated. put these people out there. this is a history of donald trump and it goes to the fraudulent nature of his entire candidacy. >> kristen, to stu's point. time is short. they should have done this because he's already been defined in the public consciousness and certainly already been defined in this race. >> i think that's right. the attacks on him thus far have been that he's kind of a bully and that he's not conservative enough. those attacks have not moved poll numbers. unfortunately, it may be too little, too late with super tuesday just around the corner and with trump pretty far ahead in a lot of these states. it's unlikely you'll peel away a lot of trump supporters. if for whatever reason the field consolidates, we're seeing as people drop out some of their supporters go to trump. the field.e remaining people in- if this can inoculate folks and
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prevent trump from growing his share beyond 35%, it still gives the rest of the candidates a fighting hope that someone can emerge from the pack. >> we saw several that made up their minds in the last several days breaking for marco rubio more. that was really the only bright spot for those who don't want to see donald trump as the nominee. do you think trump's support, though, is so calcified, so strong, that these attacks are going to be ineffective? >> i do think his support is strong and calcified and nothing can diminish that. it's easy to look at it from a media perspective and say this is what needs to happen to take down trump. that just underestimates the support he has. this is someone invigorating democrats, leading democrats, invigorating independents and republicans. there's a reason turnout has been unprecedented.
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he's pulling in new voters. no attack can take him down. people find his message to be refreshing. it's not rehearsed. it's off the cuff. people like that. it's a new type of political discourse that people are saying and it's resonating and strong. i don't think any attack on the part of marco rubio about employing an illegal immigrant, a subcontractor of donald trump, employing an illegal immigrant 36 years ago is going to resonate with many voters. >> 200 illegal immigrants, but, stu, the other big news today, obviously, this endorsement by chris christie does blunt the attacks by rubio. last night the big story was, you know, rubio and cruz going after donald trump. some of that, and i don't know if it was by design, the trump organization to have this endorsement come out today so it sort of changes the news cycle somewhat. >> good morning, everybody. thank you -- >> anderson, my firm has handled
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both of his -- are we okay? >> yeah go ahead, stu. >> we've -- my firm has handled both of his governors races and my partner worked for chris christie in the presidential race. i think it's very good news for donald trump. i'm not going to do what donald trump would do and disparage someone for having a difference of opinions. i don't agree with governor christie. but i thought in two minutes, honestly, governor christie did a better job making the case for donald trump than donald trump had done in his entire campaign. it's not just the endorsement, the endorsement that helps him. it's the fact that he's such a good messenger. we saw how effective in the debate against rubio. look. this is going to help donald trump. but this idea that you can't stop donald trump. i think that is absolutely absurd. when you are in a fight you hit
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someone. you don't expect one punch to knock them out. you have to just keep at it. >> you don't think it's too late? >> a very volatile, unstable candidate. that's the flip side of -- >> no, it's absolutely not too late. even if it was, what would you do differently? you fight harder. you have to just keep fighting. donald trump is not someone who has cracked some nuclear code of how to be a perfect candidate. he's a very flawed candidate. he's not been pressured by these other candidates. you need to put him in the pain locker. let him handle the pressure and just see what happens. that's all you can do, but that might be enough. >> it is amazing to hear marco rubio now talking about donald trump not asking for forgiveness. that was something that we -- in the media were discussing months ago when those comments were made. marco rubio said not a word about that a long time ago. was prayeding donald troump the heavens. now all of a sudden, he's seen the light. >> a big part of the reason
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you're seeing this shift is marco rubio avoided criticizing donald trump up until this poun point and was not taking any incoming. as soon as gloves came off from one side it came off from the other. that strategy got marco rubio this far but third place in the republican primary doesn't get you much of anything. finally they're saying we've got to try something different. i'm with stuart when i say keep punching. go down fighting if you're going to go down. i worry it's too little, too late but i'm fascinated that marco rubio is finally trying out the strategy that i suspect the democrats will use against donald trump if he's the nominee come next fall. >> stuart stevens, kristen soultis anderson and kayleigh mcenany. we'll be runing a special presentation of last night's debate. it was a doozy. under way at 11:00 p.m. eastern tonight here on cnn. just ahead, breaking news. i talked to mexico's former president vicente fox. he had some choice things to say
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breaking news tonight in the border war. his pledge to make mexico pay is a staple of his stump speech. he doubled down when asked what mexico's former president vicente fox said in an interview with fusion's jorge ramos. >> i'm not going to pay for that [ bleep ]. >> here's how donald trump responded last nite. >> this guy used a filthy disgusting word on television and should be ashamed of himself and apologize. number one. number two, we have a trade deficit with mexico of $58 billion a year. and that doesn't include all the drugs that are pouring across and destroying our country. we're going to make them pay for that wall. now the wall is $10 billion to $12 billion, if i do it. if these guys do it it will cost $200 billion. >> he doubled down throw
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something jabs at his rivals on the stage. as for mexico's former president, he's not backing down. i spoke to vicente fox and got an earful. donald trump is essentially doubling down saying he'd make mexico pay for the wall. it's now going to be higher. regardless of what you or any current or former profit mexico says, what's your response? >> well, my response is that he's mistaken. he's taking the wrong route. there are more mexicans coming back than mexicans going into the united states. and it's because mexican economy has been improving, and because they see opportunities here now. >> when he claims that the mexican government is behind the flow of undocumented workers coming into this country, he hasn't provided any evidence of that, but he says he believes that and that smart people know that. >> that is an absolute lie.
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he doesn't have any proof of that. i was president of mexico. i know all the presidents of mexico. and we have always been working hard doing our very best to create opportunities for our people. we need them here. we don't need them in the united states. >> donald trump again called for you to apologize for using the" f" word saying you should be ashamed. any chance you've decided to accept that request? >> i'll repeat to him, no apologies. i demand, joe biden came to mexico and said it's a shame we have guys like him speaking the language that he speaks. he has offended mexico, merks cans, immigrants, the pope, the chinese. he's offended everybody. >> mr. president, there are some
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in the united states who believe that by you making these comments to donald trump in fact, helps donald trump. that it sort of elevates him, puts him on the world stage and for his supporters, confirms what they already believe. >> he says he's going to bring back america to what it was? that's crazy. never before america, the united states was so big, so strong, so powerful, so successful as it is today. he's going to take that nation back to the old days of confl t conflict, war and everything. he reminds me of hitler the way he's starting to speak. >> you are really saying he reminds you of adolf hitler? >> i say that he reminds me of
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hitler. going to use the power to do what he like without considering that he has a congress and a congress of republicans and democrats, that he has a judiciary, government, a very -- and that is a democracy that should be the example of the rest of the world. he's behaving very, very, very poorly. >> president vicente fox. i appreciate you talking with us. thank you. >> thank you. >> that's not going to settle the argument. john king joins my with trump supporter andy dean. he worked for donald trump for seven years and is the president of trump productions. you hear him escalating this war of words against donald trump. >> uh-huh. anderson, it's important for us to understand who vicente fox is. and i studied him. his life at harvard university. vicente fox has a very interesting past. he came to power as president of
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mexico in 2000 as the former governor of the guanahato state. it's a major transshipment point for a cartel. my linking vicente fox to the cartel? i'm not doing that because i don't want my head to end up in a box. what i can tell you is it is very clear that vicente fox has said outlandish things especially about black americans back in 2005 and anybody can look this up on wikipedia. both al sharpton and jesse jackson got together demanded an apology. he did not do so. and then al sharpton, jesse jackson called for a boycott of mexican goods. i find it very strange and ironic that now vicente fox is not apologizing once again for dropping the "f" bomb on national television and to call donald trump like hitler. i worked for donald trump. i'm a jewish american. that's even more insulting.
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vicente fox is actually the bad person in this scenario if we know the history of who he is. >> to andy's point, for those people who support donald trump, and even probably some who don't, does this help donald trump? agon again, it turns the subject to illegal immigration. a strong suit for donald trump and those who support him. >> in the short term, this is a bonanza. manna from heaven for donald trump. most of the republican base anywhere, but especially in the south, supports donald trump. when he says build a wall. do they think mexico is going to pay for it? we can have a separate debate about that. he says we'll secure the border, absolutely. and having a fight with vicente fox only helps donald trump. does trump have a longer term demographic problem if he is the nominee with latino voters? sure. he does. in the short term, donald trump is trying to win the republican nomination. any time he's having a conversation about illegal imgraduation and hgragss and hin
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is a victory for donald trump. >> how big a deal was that endorsement today? not only from anybody but governor christie could be a powerful ally for trump on the campaign trail. >> i think it was a very big deal. we're talking about the sitting governor of new jersey which puts the state of new jersey in play in 2016. people like chris christie because he's a no-nonsense guy. when they see him come out so strongly for donald trump. with christie bringing in 10% of the republican electorate. maybe 5% to 10%. that's very strong for donald trump. >> it also is a really smart move and i don't know if this was timed. the reporting was this was organized yesterday at trump tower. but it does change some of the -- had this christie announcement not been made today, the big story probably would have been everything marco rubio and donald trump were
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saying on the campaign trail. this at least puts in something else which legitimizes donald trump into the mix. >> the more we talk about chris christie, the less we're digging into the personal character attacks on donald trump, questions about his business practice and questions about his true conservatism in the debate last night. donald trump was on the defense last night for one of the first times we've seen and pulls an ace out of his pocket and has this endorsement. ideologically is chris christie in step with the republican base? not really. he'd still be running for president if he were. for trump to change the news cycle, to get a pit bull who will go on television as a surrogate and to add to the conversation that isn't trump getting inevitable, brilliant. >> andy dean, john king. john will be sticking around. we'll get more of john's insight on the super tuesday fight. we'll look at donald trump's top rivals hitting hum hard over his failed trump university. drew griffin has been digging into the fraud allegations its facing and the lawsuits it's
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just three days until super tuesday. the biggest primary day so far. the republican candidates are going to face off in 11 states from alaska to virginia. today they were hitting the campaign trail hard in texas and beyond after last night's slugfest in houston. 595 delegates are at stake on that one day, super tuesday. a day that could change everything. john king is back to break it down and show us why, by the numbers. >> the state at play is as of tomorrow the momentum phase will be over. south carolina democrats voting tomorrow. republicans are already done in the first four states. then we move on to the math phase, i call it. super tuesday the first big day
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you can run up the delegate total. 11 states on the republican side choosing delegates from coast to coast. most down here in the south. this is donald trump's advantage to stretch the lead. he's ahead right now with 82. takes 1273 to win on the republican side. just beginning but if you look at the super tuesday states, all 11 of them. cruz favored to win at home in texas. donald trump is making a push there. even has a negative ad against cruz. if we hypothetically give texas to cruz, we expect trump to come in second. the rest of the map, donald trump is ahead in all the other states. texas is the only one we have polling showing trump behind. if trump wins with 35% or so in all these other states, could be higher, he gets more. look at this. 344 delegates after super
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tuesday. somewhere in that ballpark with kasich and -- rubio and cruz behind him about half of what trump has. starting to stretch this out. and then the question becomes, can you stop him? is there enough time to stop him? does the contest move on? the answer is yes. but it gets difficult. if you go through the rest of march and look at the map, right now marco rubio is trailing in florida. let's say marco rubio comes back and wins florida. trump comes in second. cruz third, cause itch fourth. and john kasich is trailing in ohio to donald trump. again for the sake of the argument let's assume he stays in and kasich wins in ohio. i'm going to give second, third and fourth. this is winner take all territory. so even if rubio wins florida and kasich wins ohio and trump wins everything else, he starts to pull way out ahead. the question republicans are asking is where else can you get donald trump? if you just win your home state, cruz in texas, rubio florida, kasich ohio. just winning at home won't
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change this. they have to have a fundamental shift where several days are falling on a big day. as you get to the end of march, 63% of the republican delegates will be chosen by the end of the month. if you don't change the fundamental dynamics, donald trump will get way out ahead and become in the minds of many republicans, unstoppable. >> right now no sign of that fundamental shift. want to bring in cnn political analyst gloria borger and david brownstein. donald trump could be unstoppable. >> i think ted cruz is basically stating the obvious if you look at the map. what he's saying to people is look. if you had any doubts about donald trump, now is the time. he's saying, look. i've got to win the state of texas. and as john said, he's ahead in the state of texas. he trails everywhere else on super tuesday.
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so for both cruz and rubio, these next couple of weeks are do or die. that's why everybody is scratching their heads and saying, wait a minute. why did it take marco rubio so long to come out of the box like he did last night. >> and, ron, it is hard to see a clear path forward for rubio, for cruz and cruz maybe texas but beyond that, where does rubio win? >> the best way to think of super tuesday is really as a two-front war. two sets of states. you have a southern group of states, alabama, oklahoma, tennessee, arkansas and texas where at least 60% of voters in the latest race, where a majority of them were blue collar. if ted cruz can't win in those states, beyond texas, it's hard to see a path forward for him. those were the states santorum and huckabee won and they weren't enough for him. if he can't match that, it's hard to see where he goes. then you have states, northern states are, or border states.
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virginia, vermont, massachusetts and minnesota which are very different. much less evangelical. they are the states that a marco rubio or john kasich or any candidate counting on mainstream conservatives is going to need if they'll truly challenge trump. trump has the opportunity as john noted, he's leading in both of these groups of states, which is remarkably. mitt romney couldn't do that. mccain couldn't do that. if trump can win in both sides of this equation, both fronts of this two-front war he'll really damage his -- both of his principal rivals by showing he can win on the turf where they should be strongest. >> if cruz wins in texas. he's leading the polls right now. i guess what his hope is that that gives him new legitimacy, new momentum that then other states start to turn. the flip side of that is he wins in texas, there are those who will say, look. he should have won in texas. that's his home state. so it's not such a big deal that he won and may not add to some
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sort of new momentum. >> if i'm donald trump i'm saying, okay, fine. let him stay in. >> it keeps the field divided and -- >> keep marco rubio in there going after florida. keep cruz in there. say he wins texas. let them both stay in. i think that the thing we saw today with chris christie, though, ron was talking about some of the northern states that are up on super tuesday. you know, i think that's where chris christie gives new legitimacy in a way to donald trump with the so-called republican establishment that may be voting in those states. look. he didn't have a great appeal with republican primary voters. but i think christie today gives a certain momentum to donald trump psychologically with a group of voters that he might not have had before or a group of republican policy leaders who can then come out and say, okay. christie crossed the rubicon. maybe we will, too.
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>> if rubio can't win in florida, his home state, what does that say? >> i think even before that. if florida is the first state marco rubio wins, it's hard to imagine that florida would be the first state he wins. and if that is the only state he wins, there is nowhere to go. what we're seeing is the blue collar side of the republican party to an extent previously, i think, we've never seen driving this process. donald trump is moving -- moved to 50% in nevada among non-college republicans. polls out today in the last couple of days in florida, in virginia, in massachusetts, around 50% of all blue collar republicans with donald trump. he's not usually polling nearly as well among the college republicans but they are fragmenting between kasich and rubio and to some extent ted cruz. that's the basic dynamic. he has got the lead. >> fascinating day. ron brownstein, thanks very much. rubio and cruz going after trump over his failed trump
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university. now mired in fraud lawsuits. what they said at the debate last night and what drew griffin found out about the real estate investment school, next.
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something that came up in the debate last night, trump university, still facing lawsuits six years after it shut down. some say it was a bait and switch scam that took in $40 million but was fraudulent and de deceptive. both rubio and cruz brought it up. >> it was a fake university. >> first of all -- >> one at a time. >> there are people who borrowed $36,000 to go to trump university and they are suing him now. $36,000 to go to university --
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>> and by the way -- >> it's a fake school. you know what they got? >> i won most of the lawsuits. >> that's what's they got. >> i won most of the lawsuits. and they actually did a very good job but i won most of the lawsuits. >> marco made reference to the litigation against trump university. his lawyers have scheduled his trial for july. think about having the republican nominee on the stand in court being cross-examined about whether he committed fraud. you don't think the mainstream media will go crazy on that? >> it's a civil case. it's a civil case. it's a case where people want to try and get -- it's a case that is nonsense. it's something i could have settled many times. i could settle it right now for very little money but i don't want to do it out of money. the people that took the case signed report cards saying it was fantastic, wonderful it was beautiful. and believe me, i'll win that case. that's an easy case. civil case.
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>> cnn senior investigate are correspondent drew griffin has been following the cases against trump university. here's what's he found. >> reporter: this was the promise of trump university when it launched. direct from the university chairman's own mouth. >> at trump university we teach success. that's what it's all about. success. it's going to happen to you. >> reporter: it operated from 2005 through 2010 and enrolled 10,000 students in real estate courses that range from breeze seminars up to $35,000 for advanced training and mentoring. >> i think the biggest step toward success is going to be sign up at trump university. >> reporter: for a while it was a business success. trump university took in an estimated $40 million from people who believed they, too, could some day become successful. >> put proven donald trump secrets to work for you. >> reporter: but it turns out not everything donald trump promises comes true. and not all of his businesses lead to success. trump university is closed.
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>> and it ended. why did it end? >> the economy crashed. the real estate market crashed, and demand fell off a little bit. so while the company continues to exist, it's not accepting -- currently not accepting any more students and hasn't since 2010. >> reporter: allen garden is donald trump's attorney. he's dfgd the school from three different lawsuits. two class action suits filed in california and another brought by new york's attorney general who says the program defrauded more than 5,000 students nationwide. it's one of the california cases donald trump has been named as a witness. pretrial motions in may, trial date set for august. but all three cases are similar. new york attorney general eric schneiderman explained his case in 2013 on cnn shortly after filing it. >> we started looking at trump university. and discovered that it was a classic bait and switch scheme. a scam starting with the fact it was not a university. they promised they'd teach
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people with hand-picked experts by donald trump. the teachers were neither hand picked nor experts. >> he was very involved from the early stages meeting regularly every week, every two weeks with the people that were going to run the day-to-day operations of the course. >> so the allegation he had nothing to do with this, that he didn't pick a single expert as a new york attorney general has claimed you say is completely false. >> it's completely untrue. 100% untrue. >> reporter: the new york attorney general declined to be interviewed for this report but provided cnn with 6 of the 150 affidavits he says he's collected from unsatisfied trump university students who mostly complain their education at the school was worthless. like this student who writes, i have not been able to get in touch with anyone after i signed up for the trump gold elite program. all the numbers have been disconnected. one student who spent $25,000 to have special access to high-level mentors claims he hasn't been able to get in touch with his nonexistent power team.
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as for investing knowledge, a student says he wrote off trump university as a bad investment on my part. most of the students never met or even laid eyes on donald trump. trump university is now called trump entrepreneur initiative. the school says it never promised anyone would meet the donald. >> there's at least 10,000 people who paid. so you can go and pick three or four affidavits for people or maybe 20 or 30 affidavits. it's still a minuscule amount. i have in my bag and i'm happy to read to you all the people who loved the course. >> reporter: he did providing cnn with 14 affidavits from satisfied students. garden says trump will continue to fight all three lawsuits until he eventually wins. even if legal fees wipe out any profit he may have made. and in the end, win or lose, trump university may have taught everyone a valuable lesson. not every promise comes true. not everyone, even students of donald trump, will become a success. >> and i bet the first person
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who would tell you that is donald trump. >> absolutely. you have to work hard. you have to know what's you are doing. outfox a lot of different people. >> he must know in his heart a lot of these suckers in this room don't have what it takes to do what i did. >> i don't think he views it -- first of all, i agree with you. all we can do is provide the tools for people to go out there and apply these things. if i can't control what happens out in the real world. if someone goes and takes our classes and decides to sit on their catch and not apply them, i can't help that. >> drew, so i assume the folks who are suing will say that trump's attorney is blaming the students for whatever failure took place? >> well, that is certainly what it sounds like they are doing. trump promised the tools, knowledge to make money in real estate. also promised a lot of access to experts, support teams, mentors that a lot of these customers attorney is blaming claim didn't
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exist. as for trump, they really did never see him. we talked to one former student who said the closest he got to trump was a cardboard cutout. >> is there really a chance he's going to be call to the witness stand in this case in california? >> trial set for august. he is named, trump is named on the witness list. he said he's going to fight these lawsuits and he's going to win, so, yes, he could be a witness on the stand in a fraud trial smack dab in the middle of a presidential campaign. >> drew griffin, thanks. coming up, another live hour of "360" including the intensified battle between rubio and trump. ca rubio making fun of trump's bad spelling on twitter suggesting he's worried about wetting his pants. this is our presidential campaign we're talking about. we'll be right back. aking craft. and an infinite reserve of patience...
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welcome back. 9:00 p.m. in washington, d.c. on the campaign trail going into the final weekend before super tuesday. getting ready for round three. round one was the debate last night with rubio launching his first trump-style attack. today came a bunch of insults. >> a nervous basket case. here's a guy -- you ought to see him backstage. he was putting on makeup with a trowel.


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