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insults and attacks launching the republican presidential debate. they reached a new low. was anyone able to rise above the fray? good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm an miguel marquez. >> very good to see you. i'm christine romans. it is friday, march 4th. breaking overnight. a down and dirty debate with donald trump at the center of it all for the entire two hours. candidates bashed each other. >> in the campaign for the past year, donald trump has mocked everybody with personal attacks. he has done so to people sitting
on the staplige today. he has done so about other candidates in the race. if anyone deserves to be attacked, it is donald trump. >> this guy has lied so much about my record. he has lied so much. >> i've won ten. he's won three or four? last week, in fact on tuesday, i was 500,000 votes higher than him. 1 million votes. that's a lot of votes. >> 2/3 of the people who cast a vote in the republican primary or caucus have voted against you. >> if we nominate donald, we will spend the summer with the republican nominee facing a fraud trial. with hillary clinton telling you why did you give my campaign $100,000. >> lying, ted. >> you can breathe. i know it's hard.
i know it's hard. >> when they are done with the yoga, can i answer a question? >> i can get the crossover votes. throughout the campaign, i talked about issues. i have never gotten in the scrums. people same to say i am the adult on the stage. >> don't worry about it, little marco. >> look at those hands. are they small hands? and he referred to my hands, if they are small, something else must be small. i guarantee you, there's no problem. >> chief political correspondent dana bash was in the spin room and talked to the candidates after the debate. >> reporter: christine and miguel, as expected, this debate with the four remaining candidates in the beautiful theater in detroit was as
raucous as they come. intense when it comes to everybody taking aim at the frontrunner. the man in the center stage, donald trump. he was here. this was the spin room before everybody cleared out and i got a chance to talk to mr. trump. asking him about how he felt specifically about the idea that people were questioning whether or not he really is a man who keeps his word and tells it like it is. take a listen. >> no, i think i explained it very well. i thought it was very easy to explain. according to every poll, i won the debate by a lot. i'm in the 70s. that is a lot. >> reporter: marco rubio and ted cruz were really going after donald trump. there was one man on the debate stage, the fourth, john kasich, who refused to engage. in fact, he made it clear that was his strategy. as he has done throughout this campaign. saying that he doesn't want to get into it.
he doesn't want to get into the bickering. he wants to talk about his record both as governor of ohio and before that in congress. i also got a chance to talk to him after the debate. >> you were clearly trying to be the adult in the room. >> yeah. >> given where you are and the delegates are after the contests, do you think republicans are looking for an adult? >> i do. i will win ohio. when i win ohio. it is a new ball game. winning ohio -- i'm on home turf. >> reporter: for candidates like john kasich who thrives on this platform on the debate stage, it could be beneficial. even he said so. for the other candidates, unclear how much this debate really moved the ball. we're going to see when the next contest starts this saturday and right here in michigan, the reason they held the debate here, this primary is one that john kasich is focusing on this tuesday.
christine. >> dana bash. let's break down the debate. we have political analyst josh rogin live in the washington bureau bright and early this morning. if you have not participated in the political circus over the past 24 hours, you have been missing out. i think we are watching history here. let's talk about last night and listen to megyn kelly. many people are saying megyn kelly was a very strong, strong leader in this debate. i think you guys probably agree. she did very well. she rolled some video showing a flip flopping on foreign policy of donald trump. she really nailed him on this. let's listen. >> mr. trump, one of the things people love about you is they believe you tell it like it is. time and time again in this campaign, you have actually told the voters one thing only to reverse yourself within weeks or sometimes days.
we teed up three examples in a videotape similar to those we used in senator rubio and senator cruz in the last debate. the first is on whether the war in afghanistan was a mistake. watch. >> what about afghanistan? do you believe that american boots should stay on the ground in afghanistan to stabilize the situation? >> we made take terrible mistake getting involved. that will collapse two seconds. just like iraq. >> about afghanistan, you said we made a terrible mistake g getting involved. >> our question was about afghanistan. >> i never said that. okay. wouldn't matter. >> there are many other examples. how is any of this telling it like it is? >> on afghanistan, i meant iraq. you are right next to pakistan which has nuclear weapons and we have to protect that.
>> people who watched who are trump supporters said he was confident. people who are critical of trump said she really puts some chips in his armor there. >> i agree with you. megyn kelly came with her facts ready. she pointed out inconsistencies on afghanistan and previous claim allowing refugees to come in the u.s. he flipped on h-1b visas. she has him cold on the facts. it doesn't seem the facts matter to tr to donald trump or his supporters. he said afghanistan was something he misspoke. what bothers me more is the policies he laid out with his new views don't make any sense on their face. we have to defend afghanistan to protect it from pakistan. we need safe zones in syria, but he doesn't want u.s. troops
involved in syria. you have the flip flopping on one hand and on the other hand, you have foreign policies and national security policies that don't make sense. you think that is a case that trump is not ready to be commander in chief. his supporters don't care. >> bigger picture here. yesterday, cannot in any way be considered a good day for donald trump. he was picked to pieces from the left and right from cruz and rubio last night. before that, the luca brazi of politics. mitt romney came out after him hard core. my chin was on the floor. i had to pick it up to figure out what was going on. it was unbelievable to see that. here is how trump responded to that last night. >> he was a failed candidate. he should have beaten president obama easy.
he failed miserable. it looked like he went away on vacation. >> i can't see donald trump walked out yesterday not injured to some degree. >> we will see when the polls come out in a couple of days. it will take a come of days to show up in polling. entire republican establishment is finally organized and throwing everything at him. including the kitchen sink. spending millions of dollars on attack ads. dumping out all of the op-eds. this is the last ditch hail mary eith effort to stop him. it can do damage to him. the question is whether or not it is too late. he may be too far ahead with too little time to go. all of the effort, even rolling out mitt romney.
i can't tell you that people are clamoring for romney's politics. will it damage him enough before it wins the nomination? it is tough to call. >> here's the thing. the confidence that he has projected that his followers love so much and the intimidation and insults caught the other candidates off guard. they didn't engage early enough. they had months to do something and now, you know, really what you are in the fourth quarter of the basketball game. >> that is right. they spent all that time fighting each other. rubio against christie, jeb against rubio. they wasted that time and money and let trump get the huge lead. i assure you, the problem is that now they decided to engage trump, they are engaging him on his terms. the risk is they are now having
to debate about hand size that is really on trump's playing field. he loves to get down in the mud. that's where he is the most comfortable. it is funny and rubio got some good quips in. everyone had a good laugh. it did not do enough on trump's policy issues. >> the level of discourse is shocking. >> it is like a professional wrestling match. >> i have a fourth grader. i cannot watch this anymore. >> this is moving into our territory. >> thank you, josh. next week is march madness on cnn. the democratic debate in flint, michigan followed by the series "race to the white house." berman says this is fantastic. next tuesday is the next super tuesday. wednesday is the democratic
debate in miami. thursday, republican debate in miami. a week of political events here on cnn. senator marco rubio sits down to talk about cnn in just a couple of hours. "new day" interviews marco rubio at 6:00 a.m. be sure to tune in. >> he had a quip last night about yoga. laughing out loud. he is showing more of his personality. >> it worked for him last debate. bernie sanders shifting strategy in the race for president. his new attacks against hillary clinton. we have those for you next.
welcome back. bernie sanders is campaigning in michigan today with the primary looming next tuesday. sanders is stepping up attacks on hillary clinton hitting her hard on trade. he is also accepted an invitation to a town hall on monday organized by media's fox news. hillary clinton will not appear at the fox town hall. citing a scheduling conflict. cnn's jeff zeleny has more on sanders new aggressive strategy. >> reporter: christine and miguel, we are one day away from the caucuses and primaries. nebraska and kansas on saturday. louisiana as well. maine on sunday. bernie sanders believes he can win three of those. on that, the clinton campaign does not disagree. this is becoming a race of delegates.
clinton had a big lead in the delegate hunt, but sanders could make up ground this weekend. it is one reason he is going to college campuses in lincoln, nebraska and lawrence, kansas. he is foccusing on working clas. others who are fed up with washington. he got loud cheers from an otherwise conservative state. many are happy to have a candidate show up at all. some democrats are wondering about the tone of his campaign. i asked him if he should tone down his rhetoric. >> we are in this race to win it. i don't run negative campaign ads, but i think it is appropriate in a campaign, you distinguish your differences. otherwise why run. >> reporter: you see he has no plans of changing his approach. they are working to the next presidential debate in flint, michigan. that is leading to the key states primary. that state will determine how
the delegate fight goes on. >> shout out to jeff. he has been traveling all over doing a great job. >> he has a lot longer to go. >> thanks, jeff. hillary clinton was live tweeting during the republican debate. this one one of the most retweeted of the night. #gopdebate. the democratic contest shifting to the midwest. the next debate live from flint, michigan on sunday. the presidential debate sunday night at 8:00 only on cnn. >> it will get more interesting. computer security logs on the servers used by hillary clinton reveal no evidence of foreign hacking according to the new york times. security logs were turned over to the fbi by the former clinton aide who set up the server bryan
pagliano. he reportedly told agents there is nothing in the logs to suggest any intrusion. secretary of state john kerry has scrubbed plans to visit cuba ahead of president obama's trip in coming weeks. because there is too much fighting over which cuban dissidents the president will meet. the president said any attempt to stop him from meeting dissidents will be a deal breaker. a delegation of 25 will travel to flint, michigan to hear about the water crisis. children and women in flint are eligible for expanded medicaid and contractors are expected to remove the first certify viwate
line in the city. the mother of four at the center of the crisis filed a federal lawsuit against several corporations and three current and former government employees. a mysterious and deadly bacteria spreading in wisconsin. officials scrambling to determine the source. it has killed 18 people with dozens more infected. the centers for disease control and prevention sending five disease detectives to work on the case. many of the ill fell ill after being admitted to nursing homes or hospitals. dow futures lower this morning. wall street awaiting a big jobs report. look at the stock markets in europe, higher. shares in asia with gains. the dow with a three-day win streak. it is now up five of the past seven trading days. 512 points. besides oil prices, the only
thing standing in the way of gains is the jobs report. it is released at 8:30 a.m. eastern time. here is the number to watch. cnn money's forecast is 190,000 positions created in february. we think the jobless rate will stay at 4.9%. wages up 2.5% over a year ago. that is okay. wages have been moving higher since october. you want to see that paycheck fatten up. when you have a job market that is good as those numbers, you have to have it. >> the job numbers have to get bigger. north korea warning they have nuclear weapons and aren't afraid to use them. we are live with that story coming up.
we have cnn's paula hancocks in seoul with more. is this more talk from kim jong-un? >> reporter: christine, what this does is it shows us that the north korean regime is concerned about these united nations sanctions announced this week. the strongest in more than two decades according to the u.s. it is having an impact. we saw photos being released by state run media kcna of the leader kim jong un test firing the rocket. it is unclear which day. it is a quote from him saying he is ready to use the nuclear weapons anytime. they need to be at the ready. also saying the situation has reached a dangerous phase. he has the choice words for south korean officials. they believe this is the first time he named the south korean
president and criticized her. really upping the rhetoric against south korea. saying president park's haste will worsen her destruction. we have seen u.s. forces and also the south korean officials signing a memo talking about deploying a missile defense system in south korea. they say it is necessary because of north korea. this missile defense system is now officially being talked about here because of who we have seen over the past couple of months from the north. christine. >> certainly a troubling last couple months and hours, frankly. thank you for that, paula hancocks. republican presidential candidates attack each other for two hours on the debate stage. who came out as top dog? our panel breaking down the best moments live coming up.
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surprise, surprise. donald trump at the center of it all. for the two hours, the candidates bashed each other sometimes in very course terms. >> in the campaign for the last year, donald trump mocked everybody with personal attacks. he has done so with people sitting on the stage. he has done so about people who are disabled. if anyone has ever been deserved to be attacked that way, it is donald trump. >> this guy has lied so much about my record. >> here we go. >> i've won ten. he's one three or four? last week, in fact, on tuesday, i was 500,000 votes higher than him. i was 1 million votes higher than marco. 1 million votes. that's a lot of votes. >> 2/3 of the people cast a vote in republican primary or caucus have voted against you. they do not want you to be our nominee. >> if we vote for donald, we
will spend the summer with the republican nominee facing a fraud trial. >> stop it. >> with hillary clinton saying why did you give my campaign and foundation $100,000. >> lying ted. >> breathe. breathe. you can do it. you can breathe. i know it's hard. >> when they're done with the yoga. >> i can get the crossover votes. you see because throughout the campaign, i talked about issues and i have never tried to go and get into the kind of scrums we are seeing here on the stage. people say wherever i go, you seem to be the adult on the stage. >> i have a policy question. >> let's see if he answers it. >> i will, don't worry about it, marco. don't worry about it, little marco. look at those hands. are they small hands? and he referred to my hands, if they're small, something else must be small. i guarantee you, there's no problem.
>> oh, my. chief political correspondent dana bash was in the spin room and talked to the candidates after the debate. >> reporter: christine and miguel, as expected, this debate between the four remaining candidates in the beautiful theater here in detroit was as raucous as they come. really intense especially when it comes to everybody taking aim at the frontrunner. the man in the center stage, donald trump. he was here. this was the spin room before everybody cleared out and i got a chance to talk to mr. trump asking him about how he felt specifically about the idea that people were questioning whether or not he really is a man who keeps his word and tells it like it is. >> no, i think i explained it very well. i thought it was very easy to explain. according to every single poll, i won the debate by a lot. i'm in the 70s, which is a lot when you have four people on the
stage. >> reporter: marco rubio and ted cruz were really going after donald trump. there was one man on the debate stage, the fourth john kasich, who refused to engage. in fact, he made it clear that was his strategy. as he has done throughout this campaign. saying he doesn't want to get into it or get into the bickering and he just wants to talk about his record as governor of ohio and before that in congress. i got a chance to talk to him after the debate. >> you were trying to be the adult in the room. >> yeah. >> given where you are and the delegates after the contests, do you think republican voters are looking for an adult? >> i do. i will win ohio. when i win ohio, it is a whole new ball game. winning ohio means -- i'm on home turf. >> reporter: for john kasich who thrives on this platform on the debate stage, it could be very
beneficial. even he said so. for the other candidates, unclear how much this debate really moved the ball. we're going to see when the next contest starts this saturday and right here in michigan, the reason they held the debate here, this primary, is one that john kasich is focusing on is tuesday. christine and miguel. >> thank you, dana. helping us breakdown the rhetoric, brian stelter. we also have josh rogin in our washington bureau. brian, we have seen these gentlemen on the stage several times. how do you rate both megyn kelly's performance and donald trump? did he emerge as the confident frontrunner? >> the kelly part was
anti-climatic. they were doing their jobs and doing what a lot of voters and viewers i hear from is more fact checking of the candidates and more challenging on the policy positions. that's what i constantly hear on twitter and facebook. we want more fact checking and more challenging questions. we heard that from kelly and chris wallace and bret baier. i was happy to see questions brought up in detail about trump university and in detail about immigration. topics we heard covered at length in the past, but with more detail. >> josh, they are tried to take out donald trump's conservative legs. first romney going after him yesterday and the candidates last night with the same thing. here is what rubio went after him on his lack of conservative credentials. >> we are not going to turnover the conservative movement or party of lincoln or reagan to
someone whose positions are not conservative. someone who defended planned parenthood. for someone who thinks the nuclear triad is a rock band from the 1980s. america is great because of limited government and free enterprise and strong national defense. our nominee needs to stand by these things. >> josh, does any of this work or does it confirm donald trump as the anti-establishment candidate? >> i say two things. one, rubio has him on the facts. he is pointing out inn consicon issues. and he is expanding the base of the republican party. if you remember back after 2012, they all said they had to do. people are coming out to the polls in the republican primary
in record numbers. whether or not conservatives is what voters are looking for, trump is winning and getting more republicans to register and more republicans to the polls. that carries some weight. the trump narrative is he is a victim and attacked by the media and republican establishment. when you have two hours of him on tv getting attacked by the media and republican establishment, it keys that narrative. it tells his supporters that trump is right and he is the victim. that is a self fulfilling logic in a warped thought process. he set it up that way intentio intentional intentionally. when rubio and megyn kelly go after him, he is prepared for that. he prepared supporters for that. >> are these swarms of new voters that come out and we talked to people, do they want conservatively? do they want to know what the
next president will do or part of a cult or personality? they want confidence and personality. it looks like confidence and personality are the two things going in his favor. you talked about the facts and how megyn kelly is armed with the facts. for the first time in the process, really pushing back with him about some of his business endeavors. let's listen to how she fact checked him on the fly about trump university. >> excuse me. the lead plaintiff signed a letter saying how great it was and is on tape saying how great it was. >> but stand by. what happened in that case was you counter sued her. the court threw out your counter suit and made you pay $800,000 in legal fees of hers. you made the same argument of people being happy with trump university. the woman signing a survey while someone is standing over her shoulder. stand by.
this is what the court of appeals found. they said the plaintiffs against you are like the madoff victims. >> give me a break. >> this is what the court of appeals said. they found that victims of con artists sing the praises of their victimizers until realize they have been fleeced. >> you will see the aspects of his business past in the next weeks. they will show it is the little guy supporting donald trump. actually got the short stick in some of his endeavors. >> romney set this up yesterday as well. naming other brands that are defunct or nonexistent. what is trying about the debate is it was on trump's terms. others have to respond the way trump responds. we can dismiss the comment about
trump's hands and if he is well endowed. it is about the campaign. when this campaign is about strength and trump represents himself as a strong man. it comes down to what trump was saying in that moment. there was the tweeted moment. the facebook moment. the social media moment. a lot of people will condemn it as outlandish and below the belt so to speak. look at the front page of the new york post. the headline is "size matters." the headline for better or worse. did it sound like it was part of trump's tinder profile? it is the subtext of the election. >> josh, is this what these voters want? a big discussion with bill bennett and others. the republican party listening to the people coming to the polls. if they are having a love affair with donald trump, you need to figure out what it is he is
selling that they want to buy. >> i agree with everything brian said. i would add this. it is important for the viewers to understand. there is a $25 million effort to push out oppo research and bad information about donald trump dating back to the '70s. trump university, trump ties, trump steaks. all this is coming out because it is the body of work that trump's opponents have collected. the problem is, christine, when people get negative advertising, sure it can hurt a candidate, but the people actually don't like it. you show people negative ad and they think it's unfair and they don't want to admit they were convinced by a negative ad to change their minds about somebody they don't like. they feel like we are trying to manipulate them by showing them the negative ads. there is a backlash. the republican establishment has no choice. they are throwing everything at trump they can.
it could have some negative effects for trump's poll numbers, but it will have negative effects for them. trump will play the victim and people will get turned off by that. >> the backlash is what he will benefit from. he certainly has all the way along. josh, thank you very much. >> brian, nice to see you. there's more to come. next week is march madness on cnn. sunday with the democratic debate in flint, michigan. followed by the premiere of "race to the white house." fantastic i'm told. next tuesday is the next super tuesday night. wednesday is the democratic debate in miami. on thursday, the republican debate. a week of events here on cnn. and senator marco rubio sits down to talk with cnn. "new day" interviews marco rubio at 6:00 a.m. be sure to tune in. bernie sanders stepping up his attack on hillary clinton ahead of weekend elections. his new strategy and the
town hall by an organization not associated with democrats. fox news. hillary clinton not attending citing a scheduling conflict. jeff zeleny has more on the aggressive strategy by sanders. >> reporter: christine and miguel, one day away from caucuses and primaries. nebraska and kansas on saturday. louisiana as well. maine on sunday. bernie sanders believes he can win three of those. on that, the clinton campaign does not disagree. this is a race of delegates. the clinton campaign is coming out strong after super tuesday with the big lead in the delegate hunt. sanders could make up ground this weekend. it is one reason he is going to college campuses in nebraska and kansas and michigan. he is focusing on the younger vote and others fed up with washington. he visited lincoln, nebraska and got loud cheers from the conservative state. many democrats are happy to have
a democratic candidate visit. some democrats are wondering about the tone of his campaign. i asked if he should tone down his rhetoric. >> in many ways, democrats can say what they want. i'm in the race to win it. i don't run negative ads, but you should distinguish your differences. >> reporter: you can see sanders has no plans of changing his approach. they are both working toward sunday. the next cnn debate in flint, michigan. that is leading to the key state's primary to help determine the delegate fight. christine and miguel. thank you, jeff. hillary clinton not on the campaign trail last night. was live tweeting during the republican debate. this is one of those tweets. how many more of these do we have to sit through? little gif action.
asking for a friend. with the democratic contest shifting to the midwest, cnn hosts the next debate live from flint, michigan on sunday. the cnn democratic president debate sunday here on cnn. computer security logs from the private e-mail server used by hillary clinton as secretary of state reveal no evidence of hacking. the security logs were turned over to the fbi by the former clinton aide bryan pagliano. there were attempts to hack the act which were traced back to russia, but pagliano says there is nothing in the logs to suggest an intrusion occurred. and secretary of state john kerry scrubs his visit to cuba ahead of president obama's visit. there is an issue over which
dissidents president obama will meet. kerry's staff could not finalize travel arrangements. the president said any attempt to stop him from meeting dissidents could be a deal breaker. president obama has no plans to move out of washington, d.c. once out of office. he was telling people in milwaukee his family plans to stay in the nation's capital two more years so his daughter sasha can finish high school. after that, the president says they have not figured it out. a lot of people assume they would be right back to chicago after this. >> you cannot pull a kid out of high school. >> a sophomore girl in high school runs the family. >> she is now in charge. right? the high school girl runs the family. a raucous, rowdy and at tim times raunchy debate. what did voters have to say at
grand rapids in michigan, traditionally the most conservative corner of the state. our correspondent gary tuchman spoke to them. >> reporter: we are in grand rapi rapids, michigan. there was a lot of republican pride here. in the gerald r. ford headquarters in kent county, michigan in grand rapids. a lot of republican pride? now the debate is over and this was not a boring debate? >> no. >> who is supporting donald trump on tuesday? okay. what about ted cruz? marco rubio? john kasich.
this would warm john kasich's heart. he needs a good showing in michigan. he needs to win ohio on the 15th. this crowd looks like it is supporting john kasich. this debate, like i said, was not boring. there were a lot of criticisms and jokes and more back and forth with the candidates. how many of you are comfortable with that and like to see what we saw? how many are uncomfortable? i watched you and you were cringing. like a combination of wrestling and housewives on bravo. how do you feel about that? >> it is disturbing. this isn't what we expect out of our elected officials. we expect poise. we expect them to do what is right. i'll say what kasich said. for our neighborhoods and communities. battling back and forth on a
twitter feed doesn't tell us anything other than they are children. they are supposed to be leading the greatest country in this world. >> final question for you. not many donald trump supporters here. how many of you will not support donald trump? that's a lot of people. how many of you would vote for a democrat? so there's five of you here at the republican party headquarters that would vote for a democrat. that would not warm the hearts of republicans seeing that. christine and miguel. >> thank you, gary. stock futures down. investors weighing the jobs report from the government. oil is flat. stocks in europe are higher. stocks in asia gaining. the dow on a three-day win streak. get this, miguel, the dow losing 2.7% for the year. it had been down 10%. nasdaq is down 6% and the s&p is
down 2.4%. mergers happen on mondays, but why not fridays? amc is buying carmike cinemas. this deal worth $1.1 billion. amc will now control some 8300 screens. more than 600 locations and 45 states. amc is owned by a chinese firm controlled by china's richest man. it is a record setting year in 2015. another deal in the works. samsonite is buying tumi. the largest luggage company in the world. it gives them a foothold in the top tier luxury brand. >> anyone who likes to travel. i love luggage. >> i heard you have a lot of baggage. "early start" continues now.
>> speaking of baggage. insults an attacks in the republican debate. reaching a new low. was anyone able to rise above the fray? good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm below the fray. miguel marquez here on friday, march 4th. breaking overnight. down and dirty to say the least. donald trump at the center of it all. for the whole two hours, republican candidates just went after each other. sometimes in very course terms. >> this campaign for the last year, donald trump has basically mocked everybody with personal attacks. he has done so with people sitting on the stage today. he has done so with people who are disabled. about every other candidate in the race. anyone who has deserved to be