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if you are talking about the wall street bailout where some of your friends destroyed this economy. >> you know -- >> excuse me. i'm talking. >> anger, frustration and attacks on the debate stage, but this time it's the democrats. a dramatic night at the cnn debate in flint. >> with four states voting tomorrow, ted cruz building momentum for the gop. does donald trump have reason to worry this morning? this as the party and political world pause to remember nancy reagan. good morning.
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welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. 4:00 a.m. in the east. high drama. high stakes at the cnn debate in flint, michigan. this was different. a couple of days before the crucial michigan primary with the backdrop of the flint, michigan water crisis. you could sense that both candidates believe there are not many more chances to change the trajectory of the race. here are some highlights. >> i am very glad, anderson, that secretary clinton, has discovered religion on this issue. but it is a little bit too late. secretary clinton supported virtually every one of the disastrous trade agreements written by corporate america. >> when i talk about senator sanders being a one-issue candidate, i mean clearly, you have to make hard choices in
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positions of responsibility. the two senators from michigan stood on the floor and said we have to get this money released. i went with them and i went with barack obama. you did not. if everybody voted the way he did, i believe the auto industry would have collapsed taking 4 million jobs with it. >> let us be clear. one of the major issues secretary clinton says i'm a one-issue, i guess so. my issue is trying to fix the disappearing middle class. >> what it feels like s lies l first grader and somebody has come to the school using an automatic weapon, ar-15, and murder eed those children. they are trying to prevent that from happening to any other family. the best way to do that is to go at the people. we talk about corporate greed
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that gun manufacturers sell guns to make as much money as they can make. >> we are going to invest a lot of money into mental health. when you watch the republican debates, you know why. >> cnn's jeff zeleny has more on the debate from flint, michigan. >> reporter: john and christine, the contention democratic debate in flint, michigan, sanders and clinton going after it on trade, auto bailout and crime issues. one of the most contentious we have seen. not as comparable to the republicans, but for the democrats, it was raucous. sanders is running out of time. we are here in michigan in the heart of the auto industry. hillary clinton assailed him for voting against the auto bailout in 2009. listen to what she said. >> i voted to save the auto industry. he voted against the money that ended up saving the auto
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industry. i think that is a pretty big difference. >> well, if you are talking about the wall street bailout where some of your friends destroyed the economy. >> you know -- >> excuse me, i'm talking. >> if you're going to talk, tell the whole story. >> let me tell my story. you tell yours. your story is voting for every disastrous trade agreement and for corporate america. did i vote for the bailout when the wall street destroyed the economy, they went to congress and said, please, we'll be good boys. bail us out. i said let the billionaires bailout wall street. shouldn't be the middle class. >> reporter: it is hard to know if any gains were made.
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if you supported sanders, you supported him coming out of it. one more full day of campaigning before michigan goes to the voters. t if bernie sanders can win here, this will propel the fight farther. if hillary clinton wins, it will keep her assertion going on strong here. a big day of campaigning in michigan. hillary clinton is campaigning and bernie sanders as well. they scatter to the march 15th states. first, the michigan primary on tuesday. john and christine. >> jeff zeleny, thank you. quite a night. joining us to discuss this is political reporter tom lobianco in the washington bureau. i saw a real conflict on trade. conflict on the auto bailout. i saw them talking about the issues behind how people feel or perception about the economy. do you think they stepped it up
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a notch talking about substance? >> absolutely. you could hear a lot of the themes and tones. the messages as pointed out. we are getting late in the game here. there is not many chances to change it. you know, that exchange where she interjected and he came back at her and said excuse me i'm talking that lit up twitter. a lot of reaction about that last night. it didn't look good at all for sanders. some the clinton people were saying that is a rick fazio moment. harkening back to the 2000 senate race. >> but he lost. >> exactly. i'm sure they are hoping there will be a repeat of that. you could see the anger, the tension.
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it is easy to forget just a few months ago we were asking the question when will they actually go after each other. now there is no question. >> we know, more than anything, more than substance, i sensed urgency. mississippi and michigan tomorrow. michigan is a state where sanders has to do better than he has been doing in the south. he needs to prove that he can win states that have a minority, a significant minority population. there are more and more of these states going forward. >> absolutely. the southern firewall that clinton tout back after new hampshire and before new hampshire, it's strong. it's held up well. it's built up her lead in the pledge delegates and election. so this bolsters her case. this is a big test. you could see the sanders camp has spend a lot of time and
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money on air in michigan. i think the last i checked of our c-numbers, a bill north of $4 million spent on air up there. that's quite a bit. for the -- if it is not new hampshire or iowa, once you get past that, you don't see barrages like you do there. that just goes to show he is putting his money where the concern is. clinton hasn't had to spend nearly that much up there. >> we just showed the maps of what tomorrow looks like. what an important day tomorrow is. mississippi and michigan. the next seven to ten days is critical. do you see either of them attacking in a different direction after last night or have they honed their message and sell it to the states? >> what is interesting about this is as long as sanders stays
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in the race, he keeps pulling clinton to the left. shortly before the debate last night, the spokesman brian fallon told wolf blitzer she would not be calling on governor rick snyder to resign. of course, bernie sanders did that a while ago. right around the opening of the debate, she says it is time for him to resign. the longer he stays in, the more he pulls her to the left. if the path to victory, path to the nomination is disappearing or nonexistent, there is almost no reason for them to leave because he still pulls her that way. he pulls her to where he wants to be and where his supporters want to be. the liberal base and core wants to be. you know, if the opportunity disappears for an actual nomination, there is no reason for him to leave. >> tom, we'll talk to you again
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about the republicans in just a moment. stay with cnn for the political coverage anywhere. tomorrow, of course, super tuesday number two. michigan is the big prize. wednesday brings another democratic debate in miami. thursday, a republican debate in miami. a full week of big political events right here on cnn. today, the world is mourning the loss of nancy reagan. we will discuss the plans to honor her life next.
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tributes pouring from around the world for nancy reagan who died sunday at the age of 94 years. she died of congestive heart failure. the depth of her devotion for her husband was more evidence after he left office and battled alzheimer's. the president and mrs. obama saying they were fortunate to benefit from her warm and generous advice. she will be buried next to her husband in systimi value, california.
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ba paul vercammen has more. >> reporter: people will remember nancy reagan outside. her body will lay in repose behind me. for those at the library, they were disappointed for being turned away, but they underst d understood. >> my goodness. 94 years old. that's a long time to live. bless her heart. i'm glad they're together again. >> sad to see her go. i know she was getting older. everybody has their time. she lived a good long life. out here to pay respects for her passing. and simi valley loves her. >> reporter: nancy reagan so loyal will be laid to rest next to ronald reagan. a beautiful spot that faces toward the pacific ocean.
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back to you, christine. >> paul, thanks so much. let's bring back tom lobianco. it is no surprise that every republican candidate for president and every public official in america sent out condolences and thoughts and prayers on the passing of nancy reagan. >> a rare moment of unity across the spectrum. you know, what an iconic figure. closing of an era, too. you look back. i saw somebody who sent out a picture of her with mr. t in a santa suit. you know, yukking it up. you know, really embodied the '80s in a way. iconic leader. the just say no program. you had democrats and republicans singing her praises. you go from this election, which
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has just been something else, to looking back on her time and an incredible contrast. >> i thought the same thing, tom. i thought i didn't cover the reagans. i grew up and they were the first lady and the president of the united states when i was a kid. i was struck by a 20th century story in the middle of a 21st century political season. >> absolutely. yeah. you look back on that and you know, you are transported. it provides perspective on things. a good reminder as much as we all get washed up in the current moment. those who have come before and those who will come after. again, iconic figure in american
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politics. >> let's talk about the moment right now. the republican race for president. a really interesting weekend that i think may have halted some momentum. giving a candidate some momentum and driven another candidate and others crazy. where are we in this race? >> you know, before tuesday last week, people were talking about the marco-mentum. if there is any mention of ted cruz-mentum. that was put to rest on saturday. at some point, you have to figure out which horse you will get hint. if you are the establishment types, if you are part of the never trump movement. there's a possibility to block trump at the convention if you
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can amass enough non trump delegates. >> is it ted cruz that won kansas big and maine? donald trump just squeaked by in louisiana and kentucky. marco rubio, finished a distant third or fourth. a lot of people getting worried about marco rubio. he won puerto rico. puerto rico can't vote in the general election, but the delegates do count there. >> yes. what is interesting about this, they have to figure out who they will get behind. can they get behind cruz? michigan will be a big test here. surprises there. it speaks to the organizing and to the strategy of the cruz campaign. pulling out some big wins there on saturday. some surprises. keeping it tight in other cases.
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does he become the anti-trump candidate? what is ironic is trump has been saying for at least a week now that he would like a one-on-one showdown with cruz. of course, that could easily benefit him. stop diluting the anti-trump factions. >> thank you, tom. time for an early start on your money. big money in advertising did not guarantee a victory for marco rubio. he spent twice as much in tv per vote as all other combined. rubio won zero of the states up for grabs. here is how it broke down. last 15 months up to saturday, the pac backing rubio spent $124,000 on ads. rubio won 85,000 votes.
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that works to $1.46 per vote. donald trump spent no money on advertising. ted cruz spent about half as much money as marco rubio. there is so much money awash in the races. it is interesting to see how they deploy it and what they get for it. >> in the contest in florida, which is eight days away, there is a ton of outside money spent against donald trump. more than $10 million dumped into that state. people there are saying they have not seen such an onslaught in the campaign. north korea with unprovoked threats. we are live with latest next.
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new tensions this morning with north korea threatening a nuclear strike. this as the u.s. and south korea has the training exercises. we have paula hancocks with the latest. what is the threat and what is the reaction? >> reporter: john, this is what
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north korea has done. threatened washington and seoul with nuclear war. it comes at a time when tensions are high on the korean peninsula. today is the first day of those massive joint military drills with the united states and south korea. they are the largest ever, we're told. 300,000 south korean soldiers and 17,000 u.s. soldiers. they are significantly larger than last year. this is what north korea sees as a dress rehearsal for invasion. that the u.s. and south korea say they happen every year so the allies can work well together. this comes after january. you had a nuclear test from north korea and a satellite launch which everyone thought was a missile test. just last week, you had the u.n. sanctions against north korea. john.
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>> paula hancocks monitoring the developments for us. interesting to see what the north koreans threaten and what is behind it all. thank you. all right. the democratic debate on cnn last night in flint. a new tone to be sure. new urgency just a couple days away. willia we will tell you what changed next.
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if you are talking about the wall street bailout, where some of your friends destroyed this economy. >> you know -- >> excuse me. i'm talking. >> that lit twitter on fire. the democrats giving republicans a run for their money. the latest debate with hillary clinton and bernie sanders. now will it affect the next round of votes tomorrow? details moments away. you say that to me. as for a number of republicans, the races this weekend with a number of surprises. a new candidate surging. one candidate in serious trouble and another with momentum stalled. we will give you the latest. this as the party and nation pause to remember nancy reagan. welcome back to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. so much to talk about. breaking overnight. high drama and high stakes at the cnn debate from flint,
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michigan. a couple of days before the crucial michigan primary, the backdrop of the flint water crisis looming, you could sense the frustration and sense that both candidates believe that there is not time to change the trajectory of the race. >> i'm very glad, anderson, that secretary clinton has discovered religion on this issue. it is a little bit too late. secretary clinton supported virtually every one of the disastrous trade agreements written by corporate america. >> when i talk about senator sanders being a one issue candidate, i mean clearly, you have to make hard choices when you are in position of responsibilities. i went with them and i went with barack obama.
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you did not. if everybody voted the way he did, i believe the auto industry would have collapsed taking 4 million jobs with it. >> let us be clear, one of the major issues secretary clinton said i'm a one issue person. my issue is trying to rebuild a disappearing middle class. >> to think about what it must feel like to send off your first grader, the next thing you hear, somebody has come to that school using an automatic weapon, ar-15, and murdered those children. they are trying to prevent that from happening to any other family. the best way to do that is to go right at the people. we talk about corporate greed. the gun manufacturers sell guns to make as much money as they can make. >> we are, if elected president, going to invest a lot of money in mental health.
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when you watch the republican debates, you know why we need to invest in mental health. >> we have jeff zeleny with more on the debate in michigan. >> reporter: john and christine, the lively debate. hillary clinton and sanders going after it on the auto bailout and crime issues. one of the most contentious we have seen. not as comparable to the republicans. bernie sanders is running out of time. one of the things i was struck by, we are in the heart of the auto industry. hillary clinton assailed him for voting against the auto bailout in 2009. listen to what she said? >> i voted to save the auto industry. he voted against the money that ended up saving the auto industry. i think that is a pretty big difference. >> if you are talking about the wall street bailout where some
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of your friends destroed this economy. >> you know -- >> excuse me, i'm talking. >> if you're going to talk, tell the whole story. >> let me tell my story. your story is for voting for every disastrous trade agreement and voting for corporate america. did i vote against the wall street bailout when wall street destroyed the economy. they went to congress and said please, we'll be good boys. bail us out. you know what i said? i said let the billionaires bailout wall street. shouldn't be the middle class of the country. >> reporter: in the middle of the contentious exchange, it is hard to know if any gains were made. if you were a supporter of bernie sanders going into the debate, you were supporting him coming out of it. there is a full day of campaigning before the primary
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vote in michigan. the rustbelt voter. if sanders can make gains here, this will propel this nomination fight farther. if hillary clinton wins, it will keep her delegate lead going stronger. big day of campaigning and they scatter to the march 15th states. first the michigan primary on tuesday. john and christine. thank you, jeff. joining to us discuss is tom lobianco. tom, your big take away from the debate. who won? >> that's a good question. you know, they both won amping up their messages. they had great hits. i think clinton had a great point with the guns issue, which is a weakness for sanders, and turned it into a defense of wall
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street ties. he supported the gun maker immunity bill in 2005. he said he would not have done that. that has been a key striking point. she took that vote and turned it on him. she said if you are so much against corporate greed, why don't you vote against the gun makers. you could see the audience just lit up before she was even finished with the answer. that was the sharpest moment of the night. >> who won the weekend? a very big weekend in politics. moving the ball forward here for what will be an incredibly important tuesday and other debates and more voting next week. >> you know what is interesting about the democratic side. the delegate rules are proportional. you don't have the winner take all contests like the republican side. when bernie sanders wins in
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kansas, when he wins in nebraska, that's good. it looks good for him. he's not winning by huge margins. clinton, when she wins the southern states, these are knockouts she is pulling out here. you know, before you could argue, if you are one of the sanders folks, you could argue she has the lead based on super delegates. the establishment rallying to her side. about 500 super delegates, i believe. what was happening, though, since super tuesday and again on saturday and possibly on tuesday, tomorrow, in michigan, she has been slowly pulling away in the elected delegates. it makes it harder for the sanders people to just say okay, this is just the democratic chairman. these are the senators. these are the moneyed interests. you cannot rely on that as much. michigan is really big for him. for her, it means she could put
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him away sooner. but for him, it's a chance to keep arguing okay, there is a path to the nomination. i do have something. so this is really crucial. >> she has about a 200 delegate lead. we do count the super delegates because they count at the convention. hillary clinton is leading. very interesting. although sanders won kansas and nebraska and maine. basically even on delegates for the weekend. i don't know how maine changes the equation. that happened late yesterday. going into maine, she still, although, won one state, won more delegates this weekend. tom, i was struck by her auto bailout answer. it was like bernie sanders wasn't prepared for that line of attack. she came out very early in the debate. i supported the auto bailout which is a big deal in michigan. bernie sanders did not. >> right. you know, i think they focused
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so much on the trade. that's exactly what you have to focus on in the rustbelt. the sanders people focus so much on trade, nafta and cafta. it was a great move from clinton. they did seem taken aback. you could joke and say sanders answer for everything is wall street. and his answer there was wall street. in this case, it is relevant with the wall street bailout and some of that auto bailout money taken out of that fund. it did look like he was unprepared for it. they have been throwing a lot of stuff at him and that one hit. it was a good shot. >> tom lobianco, we will talk to you in a bit. stay with cnn for the most political coverage anywhere on earth. tomorrow, voting in four states, including michigan and
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mississippi. idaho and hawaii for the republicans. wednesday, another democratic debate in miami. thursday, it could be the final republican debate before super tuesday. that in miami. this is a huge political week. there are all here on cnn. >> and you have another seven to ten days of excitement. time for an early start on your money. the jobs report for february show two sides of the economy. 250,000 jobs in february. this is good news for hillary clinton and bernie sanders. it shows the obama economy humming with job creation. the labor force is growing as a whole. more people are coming off the sidelines and going back to work. that is happening since september. that takes a bit of the power behind the republican argument. the weak growth in wages leads a
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target for the gop. falling 3 cents an hour last month. not enough for people to feel good about their personal economies. plenty of data points for the candidates to spin. i found it interesting. when you look at the energy in the labor market and you hear on the campaign trail the anxiety with the middle class. bernie sanders said elevating the middle class is his number one. donald trump saying manufacturing workers get -- you know, they need help. interesting these two worlds. >> they vote tomorrow. >> a busy week ahead for republicans. four states set to vote. who were the big winners over the weekend? we will break all that down for you.
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one day and key primaries. all candidates out there campaigning. michigan, mississippi, idaho and hawaii hold contests tomorrow. michigan is the biggest prize. donald trump out in front in one of the latest polls. you see the numbers there. over the weekend, donald trump won two contests in kentucky and louisiana. those were by slim margins. ted cruz won big in kansas and maine. marco rubio won puerto rico. the primary there.
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ted cruz picked up the most delegates over the weekend. there are a lot of primaries over the next two weeks. a lot of votes to be cast this week in michigan. and next week in florida and ohio. ohio, of course, the home state of john kasich. john kasich did not win anything the last couple days. he picked up newspaper endorsement. former governor of california, schwarzenegger. >> i want john kasich to be the nominee and the next president of the united states. >> thank you, arnold. love you, man. >> let's bring back tom lobianco. let's stay here on the republicans and talk about the action this weekend and sort of exciting. marco rubio on the board sort of with a win in puerto rico. here he is, marco rubio, talking about that win.
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we'll talk about the significance on the other end. >> in an open primary, where anyone can vote, not just republicans, democrats and independents, i got over 77% of the vote. not because i became less conservative, but i took our conservative principles to people who are living the way i grew up. >> rubio wins puerto rico. will it help him? does it keep him alive here? >> you know, he has to put the wins on the board. this is a delegate race. it is true. the wins are about perception. fortunately, he won minnesota super tuesday. he came out and won puerto rico. so these are good. this helps blunt some of the arguments from trump and where trump says it is time to leave the race. cruz wasn't putting it that way,
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put he would make the argument i'm the guy to beat trump. he would say it and put it on the back end of the statement. and rubio hasn't won any states. i'm the guy who won states. now rubio has that. you know, we're deep into it right now. you know, kasich hasn't won any states either. there is not an expecting takes he is the anti-trump guy. you know, at some point rubio has to put more on the board. he has to start breaking away. >> ted cruz won the most delegates this weekend. supporters are bragging about it. donald trump may have under performed a bit this weekend. in the states he did win, he barely won. what are you looking for from donald trump the next few days to learn if in fact his momentum is stalled or if this is a little roadblock. >> it is interesting about trump. he will win the -- usually he
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will do good in the southern states, but michigan's going to be a big test right there. we saw the polling earlier where it looks like he is up double on cruz as the nearest competitor. you know, if he wins there, that's the big prize. we haven't hit the winner take all states yet. those are going to be the real ball works determining if it is make or break time. this explains the never trump movement that's come up in the last week. the timing of it. that's really do or die. up until now, there's always the hope that you could put something out there. >> let's talk "snl" this weekend. they do a funny, mean job of taking the candidates to task. they had something this weekend that was particularly, i don't know, cringe worthy or
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hysterical. let's watch. >> so when people ask why you support donald trump, you just tell them. >> he's going to take our economy from here to here. >> he's not some cautious politician. he says what i'm thinking. >> i don't know what it is. i just like the guy. >> some of his ideas are a little out there. >> the ad is called racist for trump. it should be noted that "saturday night live" had donald trump on as their host. >> right. i was thinking about when i saw this, you don't get to make an ad like this or snl doesn't lampoon like this unless you
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have trouble answering a question about the kkk. there is a strategic point to it. you don't trip over answers like an endorsement from david duke, the former leader of the ku klux kl klan. you get a mock racist for trump ad, which is astounding. >> a lot of material for "snl." a lot of after in general for both parties. thank you, tom. tributes pouring in for nancy reagan who died sunday of congestive heart failure. she was 94 years old. nancy reagan was one of the most influential women of the 20th century. she was protective during ronald reagan's terms in the white house. the depth of her devotion was
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all right. new tensions in the korean peninsula with the north threatening an offensive nuclear strike. this as the united states and south korea begin this joint training exercises. we have paula hancocks with the latest. paula, threats are nothing new, but offensive nuclear strikes.
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not something we heard before. >> reporter: john, north korea is doing what it does best. threatening washington and seoul with nuclear war. the aspect is it will be an indiscriminate attack. they have threatened nuclear war on the u.s. and south korea and others before. we are seeing the tensions high on the korean peninsula. you expect pyongyang upset about the military drills by south korea and the u.s., no exception. you have to look at the run-up. the january nuclear test. in february, a satellite launch which was seen as long-range missle test. then last month, the strongest sanctions. then kim jong un wants his military ready. 300,000 korean soldiers, 17,000
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u.s. soldiers in the exercises. pyongyang sees it as a dress rehearsal, but washington says they are defensive in nature. >> the next few days are interesting. paula hancocks. thank you. let's get an early start on your money. strong gains on friday. dow up 62 points on friday. the nasdaq and s&p also closing higher. stocks rally friday third straight week of gains. why? the february jobs report was strong. the worst start to the year for stocks doesn't look so bad. if you bought during the worst days of february, like john berman, you will be higher. the fear on wall street is fear of missing a bounce. nearly 250,000 jobs created in one month. the last key piece of data before the feds meet next week. higher interest rates could be coming.
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it says the u.s. economy is stronger than all those fears we had in february. watching the price of oil. a barrel of crude above $36 right now. up 40% from lows last month. you know, the fundamentals have not changed. the world has too much oil. u.s. energy firms cut back on the oil rigs. they are at the lowest level since december of 2009. china laying out the plan for the slowing economy. it set a target range for economic growth at 6.5% to 7% this year. gdp grew by 7.9% last year. the slowest pace in 29 years. that was weaker than the government's 7% target after decades of breakneck expansion. the country's top economic planner insists they are not headed for a hard landing. 6 6.5% to 7%. >> the fact they are setting it
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lower is very big deal and shows they have pessimism. "early start" continues right now. >> if you are talking about the wall street bailout, where some of your friends destroyed this economy. >> you know -- >> excuse me. i'm talking. >> anger in the presidential race. this time it's the democrats. bernie sanders on the attack. hillary clinton firing back. explosive cnn debate. we have the highlights and analysis. on the republican side, four states voting tomorrow. ted cruz with the most momentum and most delegates this weekend. the man on the right, donald trump, does he have reason to worry? this as the party and nation pause to remember nancy reagan. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm

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