tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN March 24, 2016 4:00pm-5:01pm PDT
at trump, growing more and more uneasy about his ability to contest a general election. yet, unable to coalesce behind one alternative, allowing him to motor toward the nomination as a plurality frontrunner. >> thanks, guys. we'll continue this down the road. thanks very much for watching. next, live in brussels with breaking news tonight. a major counterterror raid. isis is in various stages of planning multiple attacks while the manhunts for at least two suspects intensifies tonight. i'll speak to the brother of the suspected bomb maker in tuesday's attacks. his warning to belgian officials years ago. ted cruz like you've never seen him before, calling trump a sniveling coward who should leave his wife the hell alone. let's go "outfront."
>> good evening, i'm erin burnett live in brussels tonight. outfront this hour, the breaking news. anti-terror raids are under way. police activity at this hour as we are learning investigators are aware of multiple isis plots for attacks across europe. these attacks in various stages of planning. targets already selected in some cases. the intelligence coming from electronic intercepts, some from human sources and also from maps seized from a raid this week. meanwhile, the manhunt expanding today for the suspects in the bombing of the subway station here in brussels. investigators are searching for a possible second person. surveillance cameras capturing the image of the man carrying the large bag. i spoke with the brother of najim laachraoui and the family's attorney.
the brother's face is blurred as requested by his attorney. he says his family firmly condemns the attacks and said they warned belgian authorities about his brother years ago. >> did the family tell authorities when he went to syria? did they try to tell them? >> yes, we were the ones who told police. they did not know. >> did you recognize your brother in the picture? >> isis releasing a new propaganda video today celebrating the brussels bombings. the video including even an image of donald trump. i want to begin with nick paton walsh not far from where i am in brussels. we talk about the helicopters and blocks being sealed off. raids ongoing. what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, behind me here, we have been allowed to significantly move closer to the area where police seem to be concentrating their activity. this is a new police line just
put in. probably about a dozen in the distance between me here, but half an hour ago the area sealed off was significantly larger. we've been moved closer to place pavilion. interior ministry officials have released a statement suggesting five people have been arrested in raids this night. it isn't clear if they're concentrated in this area, these five arrests, or in other parts of the capital. it seems right now there are different reports coming in. there have been a concentration of trucks down the road. it turns actually a film shoot has been occurring here as well. the police are comparatively -- they broke down one of their lines to allow people to flogo k into their homes. there's obviously a reason why this crossroad is still being sealed off. we're not clear at this point
which of the buildings around us behind us are the focus of their investigation, but there are two, possibly three, people they're seeking. the man in white from the airport video, the man caught on cc tv outside the metro station carrying a large package. he may have perished in the blast. a lot of activity here that we know of. then parts of the investigation that we're not particular with too, erin. >> thank you very much. where nick is just evidence of the race against time as they are hunting and hunting. new and multiple isis plots are in the planning stage. dozens of terrorists still at large tonight. pamela brown is outfront tonight. you're learning about the warning that they're saying there were multiple attacks, some of them significantly planned? >> that's right, erin. i can tell you counterterrorism officials i've been speaking with today are on high alert and are concerned that an attack can
happen at any moment in europe because investigators are aware of multiple additional isis plots in europe possibly linked to the paris and brussels networks. these plots are in various stages of planning. they've been able to gather this through a combination of electron intercepts and database tracking that indicates several targets have been picked out by isis operatives over the past several months since the paris attacks. investigators believe the brussels isis cell was composed of two teams that were planning an even larger attack or series of attacks in belgium at a later day. investigators believe the second team, including suspected bomb maker najim laachraoui, accelerated their timetable. they believe the network now goes far beyond those that they even have identified.
erin? >> all right, pamela. thank you very much. as you look at these pictures of these raids going on in belgium tonight, as we said a race against time, pamela talking about how many people they're looking for. countless more at this time. let's bring in ryan heath. our senior international correspondent clarissa ward is here and bob baier. there were multiple plots. very significant size. we have raids going on here in brussels and in paris tonight you're reporting. >> that's right. yet brussels today, belgium today, lowered their threat level. they lowered the threat level from 4, which means an imminent
attack, to level 3. we're seeing a disconnect between the intelligence we're hearing from u.s. officials and the activity that we're clearly seeing on the ground from officials. in terms of what's going on in paris, there are ongoing raids in ta parisian suburb. there's no tangible connection with these raids to the paris attacks of november and also to the belgium attacks, but he did say these attacks were in their advanced stages of planning. my goodness. i'm sorry. ongoing operations. they received the news that this man, whom they arrested this morning -- i'm sorry. the man whom they arrested this morning could possibly be involved with these attacks. they went into today. they said it was an imminent potential attack.
>> we're talking about an imminent attack, ryan. the belgium government admitted they were warned about people coming from turkey and they did nothing. government ministers tendering their resignation and the government not accepting their resignation. it would be absurd if this was not real life and happening. >> i have another late breaking piece of information from my colleagues at politico. they have learned from three sources, including those who were involved in the interrogation of salah abdesam, that in fact they questioned him for just one hour in the course of the four days after his arrest and didn't question him about the weapons and the detonators they found when they arrested him. they missed a huge opportunity before the attack. >> they questioned him for one hour? >> partially, because he was tire ed from his operation. all they did was talk about the november attacks in paris and didn't get to what might have
been planned in belgium. >> when you hear that breaking news from ryan, you hear they took a man who had been on the run for four months for the paris attack, they found detonators on him. they let him go through surgery and let him rest before questioning him. >> it was clearly dumb. in questioning like this, you ask is there an imminent threat. i don't know what he said, but apparently he didn't say there was one. then you go back to evidence you're quite certain of to start checking his veracity, his willness will newil willingness to talk. don't forget the belgians ignored warnings from turkey about one of the bombers, but you'd actually have to see the report from turkey. the problem is belgium is overwhelmed by jihadists, people that are sympathetic, and
getting the evidence against them is very, very difficult. in a belgian court, you need evidence. >> which is stunning. ryan, we're going to hear later in the show from a young man i spoke to too. he knows more than a dozen friends right now who are in syria fighting and training with isis. these are his friends. he says the authorities here don't care. i asked the brother today of the bomber when i spoke to him specifically. when your brother went to syria, he called you right? did you do anything about it? we called belgian police and we told them. what did they do? they did absolutely nothing. not until after paris. for years, they knew that he went to syria and they did not do anything. that seems to be the way things operate. >> this is the standard operating practice, so you have a situation here in belgium where most people will accept that logic and reasoning. they can't expect anything
better in their authorities, so they won't demand anything different. and the pattern continues. >> it speaks to this lack of communicati communication. in brussels alone, you have six different police districts. you have 19 different mayors. you have two official languages. there simply isn't the communication between all the various security bodies and the intelligence sharing bodies. >> yes. i also today was able to ask a question to the lawyer of the brother of the bomber. let me play for you exactly what he said. >> as far as the reasons which pushed their son to become radicalized, they did not notice any warning sign. they were the first to be caught by surprise when the family moved to realize in the first place that their son was not coming home one day, two days, and then they got the news that their son was in syria. >> did they recognize him in the picture to police? did the family know that it was him in the picture in the airport?
>> translator: really, it would seem according to -- i'm the attorney, but i don't know the rest of the family. but the photograph of the gentleman in the hat at the airport, he said he did not know who he was. >> it's pretty interesting. we all saw that picture. that's the picture of the man in the airport. the two men pushing the cart and the man in white. one of those men was najim laachraoui. his brother saw that picture just like the world for two straight days. officials didn't know who they man was. the family says they didn't recognize him either. that's what they're saying. the big question here, of course, bob, is how many more people are there like this right now? we're hearing about imminent attacks. are they even preventable? >> you're absolutely right. they're out of their league with these people. that guy at the airport looked to me -- put that hat on, the
glasses, and the rest of it to break up his face for the cctv cameras so he wouldn't be recognized. he's out there. how many cells are out there and how much tatp is out there? any moment you can put on one of these vests, keep it in a refrigera refrigerator, pull it out, use it anywhere in a crowded area, and they can strike back at police at will. the belgian police don't have any sources inside these groups, so they don't know when the next attack is going to come. it is pretty much guesswork for them. >> thanks very much to all of you. now, of course in this race against time tonight with the new reporting about the possibility of imminent attacks, now there are the major missed signs before this latest attack in brussels. my interview with a muslim man who says it is incredibly easy to join isis and he knows a lot of people who have done it. >> if i want to go tomorrow, i
can go. you can call the police. >> and they don't care? >> they don't care. >> ted cruz unplugged going after donald trump. >> i don't get angry often. but you mess with my wife, you mess with my kids, that'll do it every time. donald, you're a sniveling coward, and leave heidi the hell alone. [ music ]
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breaking news tonight. a top belgian official offering his resignation coming amid mounting criticism that belgium failed to track intelligence for the bombers. nick, what are your sources telling you? >> reporter: by this stage, we seem to be hearing of six arrests around the capital of brussels. some potentially here, but some in two other areas of the capital. it is not known exactly who has been arrested, but it is linked to the airport attack and on the metro as well. the police lines have moved significantly down this road to let people go back to their homes. this is just add to a sense of fear that authorities don't
entirely have a grip on things or at least here are trying to get one as accusations mount about how many warnings were missed by belgian authorities. a devastating attack, but also one that had a devastating number of warnings. of the five said to be attackers, we know the identity of three. najim laachraoui on the left here, skilled in bomb making, a global arrest warrant since last year. one of the two brothers behind the attacks, khalid bakraoui, subject to warnings for terrorism and issued in december. his brother in perhaps the most staggering twist traveled to turkey last june. he was deported by turkish authorities for trying to join isis. dutch authorities saying they got an e-mail from turkey 26
minutes before flights took off, but never mentioned turkey's concerns. the belgian interior minister reviewed the papers overnight and then offered his resignation. >> translator: people ask how is it that someone was released early and we missed a chance when he was in turkey to detain him. i understand that question. i offered my resignation to the prime minister. >> reporter: it wasn't accepted, but he also wasn't answering questions. there were a number of occasions where there were clear warnings about the links to these attackers and the potential for terrorism? [ silence ] remarkable decision by the interior minister not to answer any questions at all despite the growing evidence of substantial information being passed to the belgium government about the links between all these attackers and terrorism. the number of suspects still
growing as are the ramifications at the heart of power. now, let me tell you what we've been hearing from locals here in the past few minutes. when police arrived here, they moved into the area, waited for sometime, then an explosion was heard here. certainly locals here hearing a loud bang at some point. police trying to be in control specifically of this corner. some of the armed police moved away leaving a slightly friendlier civilian colleagues, but a tense moment. >> nick, thank you very much. earlier, i spoke to a young man named mohammad in the muslim neighborhood where the paris and brussels attackers have lived. what he had to say about how many of his friends joined isis and what belgium was doing about it is frightening. >> why does nobody say anything?
why does nobody tell police? >> because when you tell police, they say, the police say, that's not -- there is not [ inaudibl [ inaudible ] this guy to go to syria. i know one dad. he called the police. he said my son go to syria. he is 16 years old. >> he tried to turn his son in. so the police don't do anything? >> anything. >> even if you told them that someone you knew is going to syria -- >> if i want to go tomorrow, i can go. you can call the police. >> and they don't care? >> they don't care. it's not here. >> you have friends that have gone to syria. >> yes. but when you talk with the guys, he told you come with me. why you stay here?
the police don't like you. you don't have work. why you stay here? go help your brother. i think that's the grand reason that people go to syria. the government or the police makes a bad job, you know. >> how many friends or people do you know that have gone to syria? >> maybe 10. between 10 and 15. >> 10 and 15. >> yes. >> why not you? >> because i have a brain. i have ambition. i'm in school. i think i want to help my people in syria and palestine, in kuwait, in congo, but that's not
like thais. >> not that way? >> yes. you can save one life by -- >> by killing many? >> yes. and a lot of people, you know? that's all. there are a lot of [ inaudible ] for the young people here to go to syria or palestine. like i told you, there is a lot of racism here. i can understand people, they're not strong and they go. >> you heard him there. he knows 10 to 15 people, friends, that have gone to
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we are following breaking news as we come to you live from brussels tonight where right now a belgian official just announcing the arrest of six people in connection with the attacks. there are raids ongoing tonight here in brussels and also now in paris. taken into custody in raids not far from here. the manhunt is intensifying for two suspects involved in tuesday's attacks. it truly is a race against time right now. in raids they have recovered things like detonators. isis had more plots in the work. some of them imminent. officials found maps in one of the apartments raided suggesting other potential targets. indeed, they had selected and were in the advanced stages of
planning for some of those in the united states. we're going to take you now to a place where officials from around the world, including belgium, are training to protect and detect situations. >> reporter: here in rural alabama, agencies from around the world prepare for the worst-case scenario. >> it's all about saving lives. >> reporter: this all hits close to him. he's a brussels police officer and canine handler ironically sent to the u.s. for training while his city was hit. >> if the knowledge that we have here, we can share that with the rest of the world who also wants to make it a better world, that's one step in the good direction.
>> this is what we know that we' they're using all over the world. >> reporter: the lessons he teaches are critical in the fight against isis and beyond. >> the explosive side, c4, that doesn't bother me. the things that bother me are the things you can make in your house or your garage. >> reporter: we found out what he meant firsthand. morris shows us how in a matter of minutes anyone can make this kind of explosive. >> i'm holding two very volatile bombs in my hands. >> we're going to put it on the ground so you can see what that does. >> three, two, one. fire in the hole! [ explosion ] >> reporter: what i found just absolutely terrifying about this entire experience is just how simple and easy it is to make an
explosive using ordinary household products, products capable of inflicting massive casualties. for morris and the team around him, their success is a matter of life and death. nick valencia, cnn, lynette, alabama. >> outfront now, congressman will heard, a member of the homeland security committee and a former cia agent. thank you very much for being with me tonight. the breaking news at this hour that officials are saying that they have evidence of multiple plots, some of them in advanced stages of planning by isis. is there any briefings that you have received on what these threats might be and how far along in planning they were? >> well, this kind of information is what you expect to get when you have raids that have been going on throughout europe. and this is a good thing to have
this kind of information in order to understand the tactics, techniques, and procedures that isis is looking to do not only in europe, but here in the united states. this is number one priority for everyone not only just in the department of homeland security, but fbi, cia, nsa. it's all hands on deck. >> how concerned are you right now about attacks in the united states as we're finding out rings that are deeper and much more sophisticated than they thought? there are raids going on throughout this city. now throughout paris. what's the concern in the united states? >> isis is a clear and present danger to the united states. they want to attack the u.s. there have been 80 isis-linked plans to attack western targets, including many in the united states. so this is a threat that we have to stop over there. one of the problems and one of the areas that i'm concerned
with is the amount of information exchanged that is not happening with our european partners. i sat on a task force earlier this year looking at foreign fighters, americans traveling in syria and iraq to fight with isis and coming back home. one of the things we found is many of our european partners were only checking one out of three travel documents. they weren't sharing the names of suspected terrorists. and they weren't also receiving this information and disseminating it throughout their own infrastructures. if you get the right information, the right people at the right time, you can keep terrorists on the run and off our shores. that's where we need to be focusing right now. >> and congressman, how concerned are you? i spoke to two young men today, one the brother of the bomber in the brussels attacks, also involved in the paris attacks. this man said his family told belgian officials in 2013 that his brother went to syria.
officials did nothing. they never talked to the family or followed up until after the attacks in paris when they thought he might be involved. another young man i spoke to, his name is mohammad. he says he gets treated with racism. he's trying to be ambitious and get a job, but he has 10 to 15 friends that have left belgium and gone to syria and the police say they don't care. how concerning is that? it's a country with no borders with the rest of europe. >> this is why border security is important and needs to be a high priority for our european partners. you're absolutely right. this is why when you travel throughout europe there's a number of places where you have already gone through security at that european airport. then there's dhs officials at the gate because there's an additional level of security and checking that's going on because dhs and the u.s. government understands this and is making sure that we're vetting all the right folks. immediately after these brussels
attacks, tsa and cbp put everyone on high alert. additional checks for folks coming out of that region. so this is absolutely a concern. europe has a long way to go to get their defenses up to the united states. we learned our lessons from 9/11. >> right. >> i was in the cia when that happened. information sharing from 9/11 to when i left in 2009 improved significantly. from 2009 until i came into congress, even more. we need to get our european colleagues there. >> congressman heard, thank you very much. outfront next this hour with the breaking news of possible imminent plots, i'm going to talk to a young woman who was caught inside the horror of tuesday's airport bombing. she has a remarkable story. ted cruz tonight unleashing on donald trump. >> donald doesn't like strong women. strong women scare donald.
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police raids in brussels reco r recovering evidence of more potential terror plots. growing fears that isis could strike again. my next guest knows this fear firsthand. this is someone who should never know this fear. a 17-year-old belgian student on her way to italy just yards away from the explosion that killed and wounded so many. her teacher and another student were injured. thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> you are right now in shock. >> yes, of course. yes. yeah. i can't realize how much luck i had and how everything was so quick. >> and you were just, just meters away from what happened. you heard the explosion. you started to run. >> yeah, exactly. >> and you found out later that you actually ran right to what would have been the biggest explosion of all. >> yeah. i can't think about it because if you think what if, i guess i
go crazy because i had so much luck. i can't think about it all the time. >> just next to you, right near you, another one of your classmates and a teacher, they're in the hospital and they're very seriously injured. >> yeah. they have wounds all over their legs, their arms. after all, they had luck because they are still here on this planet, but they are strongly injur injured, yeah. physically, it's very difficult. >> when you first heard that explosion, hanna, and you are so blessed to be here and you are okay in body, but when you heard that explosion, what did you think? >> i thought safety. i just thought about running away and getting away from there. i was really calm. it wasn't screaming or yelling. i was just focusing on how do i get away here safely.
yeah. >> and you did get away safely and it must have been the most terrible day, but the most wonderful moment of your life to see your family, your brother, who is here again with you after that. >> yeah, it was very emotional, but it was so important to me. >> all right. hanna, thank you very much. we're so glad you are okay and with a wonderful life ahead of you. thank you. >> yeah. >> she was there and survived the bombs at the airport here in brussels. outfront next, a major political battle back into the united states. ted cruz calling donald trump a sniveling coward over this retweet. and saying this time donald trump has finally crossed the line. >> let me be absolutely clear. our spouses and our children are off bounds.
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unleashed an angry ted cruz just hours ago. >> let me be absolutely clear. our spouses and our children are off bounds. it is not acceptable for a big, loud new york bully to attack my wife. real men don't try to bully women. that's not an action of strength. that's an action of weakness. it's an action of fear. it's an action of a small and petty man, who is intimidated by strong women. heidi is my best friend in the whole world. she is the love of my life. and donald should stick with attacking me because heidi is way out of donald trump's league. i have to say seeing him go deeper and deeper into the gutter it's not easy to tick me off. i don't get angry often. but you mess with my wife, you
mess with my kids, that'll do it every time. donald, you're a sniveling coward, and leave heidi the hell alone. phil mattingly is outfront. this fight is unlike anything we have seen so far in this campaign. never seen ted cruz like this. where does this go from here? nobody is backing down. >> we've seen evidence of that over the last hour. donald trump taking to twitter continuing to blame the cruz campaign for this original superpac ad. the cruz team has denied any responsibility. i'm struck by ted cruz's reaction. ted cruz is a very disciplined and on message candidate. there's also a political element here. just about an hour ago at an event in wisconsin, ted there is an up side here. donald trump, 47% of republican women say under no circumstance will they ever support donald
trump. ted cruz needs to win a lot of delegates in contests coming up in the weeks ahead. driving up those numbers by showing what donald trump is doing here could be advantageous to this effort. this not going away any time soon and both candidates see an opportunity in pushing this message further as unseemly as it may be at times. >> they sure do. phil mattingly, thank you. do you want to laugh or cry? katrina pearson is a national spokesperson for donald trump. i'm glad we're all together for this conversation. katrina, let me start with you. as a woman, are you offended by what donald trump did? >> no, erin. i'm one of those women that doesn't need validation from outside sources. i will start with this. simply because the entire discussion this whole day and i've watched it unfold on all the outlets has ignored the fact that melania trump was attacked.
mr. trump said from the beginning he was against superpac and superpac ads and was going to hold those campaigns accountable when a superpac attacked on their behalf. it doesn't matter if ted cruz is directly connected to this superpac because they were pushing him as a candidate. he did not come out and denounce this -- >> the superpac ads -- >> he did denounce it. >> donald trump came out and denounced the reporter that did a horrible cartoon image of senator ted cruz's team. one of the first. this did not happen in the case of melania trump. the headlines out today are making heidi cruz the victim completely ignoring the fact that melania trump was plastered all over this ad for ted cruz. >> did ted cruz wait too long to denounce this? >> he denounced it the first moment it was brought to his attention. first and foremost, we have nothing to do with this pac. it's an anti-trump pac that has
actually said critical things about ted in the past. the moment this was brought to ted's attention, he said it was inappropriate, he denounced it and said that spouses and family members of candidates are off limits and should not be talked about in the political discourse. and he has said very complimentary things about melania trump. she's a great mother, a supportive wife, a beautiful woman, exactly like heidi cruz is. and ted would never say anything disparaging. and this right here sets up exactly what we're seeing here. one man who denigrates woman. another within who defends them. one who has spent a lifetime insulting them and one who inspires them. donald trump, in this cycle alone has said insulting and den grading things about megyn kelly, carly fiorina and now heidi cruz. it's absolutely unacceptable. and katrina, i'm surprised and shocked that you aren't embarrassed. if you aren't -- >> don't be surprised. you have a woman wlhose image ws
plastered in a political attack ad as if it was a vicious person and nobody said anything until donald trump responds defending his own wife. let's not be surprised here. the problem that republicans have with women did not start in january 2015. this has been an ongoing issue. and mr. trump treats everyone the same. just because you are a woman he's not going to treat you with kid gloves. i would expect most independent women would appreciate that. in the -- >> here's the other thing. here's the other thing. many women don't need men to stand up for them. maybe women don't need men to stand up for them. heidi cruz herself stepped in. she doesn't need ted cruz to stand up for her. she stood up for hears, as she should. and here's what she said to donald trump. >> you know, as i said, you probably know by now that most of the things donald trump says have no basis in reality. so we are not worried in the least. we're focused on our campaign, and we'll continue to do that.
>> total class right there. and the fact -- >> did she stand up for herself? >> the fact that he's an equal opportunity offender does not make his disgusting comments about women okay. and, look, this is all a product of the fact donald trump is afraid to go head-to-head on the issues with ted cruz. he ducked out of the last debate. he's been hiding in trump tower for days tweeting inappropriate comments. he's afraid to go head-to-head with ted cruz on important issues people are concerned about. we have a town hall next week here on cnn from wisconsin. we invite donald trump to come on stage with ted cruz at 8:00 for two hours to debate the issues. we issue that challenge and we encourage him to do so. people want to hear the candidates debate the issues and not trade barbs on twitter. >> well, good luck with that because people have been hearing donald trump on the issues. he's been the most accessible candidate. he has held the most press
conferences, most candidate rallies. people know where mr. trump stands. the fact you want to say he's afraid is laughable. that may work with other campaigns. donald trump has been fighting 16 other candidates, hundreds of millions in attack ads, the elet elite thinkers, writers, donors, he has gone after everyone that's gone after him. it's not going to change, especially when you start attacking his wife. >> i love having you both on and i love having you on together. i'll only leave our viewers with this one comment. both candidates have a little work to do with women. 74% of women with an unfavorable view of donald trump. 78% with an unfavorable view of ted cruz. we'll be route back. with creative new business incentives, and the lowest taxes in decades, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow.
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