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tv   At This Hour With Berman and Bolduan  CNN  April 12, 2016 8:00am-9:01am PDT

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and ladies and gentlemen, today across our country when a politician's lips are moving, people think that they're being lied to. you see, a lot of people have wondered why does he keep talking about what he has done? why? you see, folks, i'm a citizen too. and when somebody comes to my door and they want to know if i will vote for them, and they tell me what their promises are, i look them in the eye, and i say, you know, i know what you say you're going to do, but i'd like to know what you've done, because i've had enough people tell me what they're going to do who never got it done, so what have you done in your lifetime? see, we don't have time for on the job training. we don't have time for empty promises. we've got to have somebody with the experience, the knowledge, the know-how and the record of
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success to deal with our problems in a turbulent time. now, based on the fact that my experience in washington and ohio have been successful, using a formula to get everybody to work together to rise and provide opportunity for everybody, i proposed a 100-day agenda for when i'm president. and i can tell you, be rest assured, we'll enact this and balance the budget and freeze all federal regulations for one year except health and safety and rebuild our rule making system to stop crushing small businesses which kills jobs in our country. we will simplify and reduce the taxes on individuals so all americans can keep more of what they earn and will help our small businesses. we'll reduce taxes on businesses and double taxation so those businesses will invest in
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america and not have their money trapped and invested in europe. we will send welfare, education, medicaid, infrastructure, and job training back to where we live in the states so the states can be the laboratories of innovation and the laboratories of modelling what works. we'll protect the border and use common sense on immigration reform that will include a guest worker program. and we will fix social security so that we can keep the promises to our seniors and future generations. when we do these things, we will unleash economic growth. that means more jobs, higher wages, and the restoration of the american dream that our children will inherit a better america than what we received from our parents. with increased stability and strength, america can rebuild its military while at the same time reforming the pentagon to
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operate like a twenty-first century enterprise. we have no room for waste in that building. because it takes money from the front line and our men and women who protect us every day. we will clean it up. we will resume leadership of the world and as we do that, we'll treat our veterans with respect and lift them to make sure they have what they need whether it's health care, jobs, or housing. when america is strong, less dependent on debt, and growing economically, we can, we must reclaim our place as a leader in the world. and finally, when america is strong and actively engaged in the world, the world is a safer place. america then is a safer place. you know, this is why we do
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these things. this is about how we want our country to be. you see, economic growth, i have never believed, is an end unto itself, it is a means to make possible everything we want for our nation and our community and our families. and by the way, as we have growth, we have the ability to bring in from the cold those who live in the shadows, those who have been forgotten, the poor, the mentally ill, the disabled. as americans, or what i believe too, so sincerely, is that everyone deserves a chance. everyone deserves a chance to realize their god-given purpose. we give them the chance when we give them a hand. and everyone should have that opportunity to pursue their god-given destiny. yes, there's much to fix in our
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country. there are reasons for our anxieties and fears. our country has been drifting. why? because we've forgotten the formula that makes us strong. and we've caved to political considerations instead. not leading, not being servants. worried too much about ourselves and what feels good and what's easy. that's not the path to success in our country. we seem to have lost our way as a result and we are stalled, and we are at the risk of jeopardizing a better future for our kids. you know, i do understand why americans are fearful and distrustful, and looking for a reason for the way they feel. you know, i was raised in that small pennsylvania steel town where if the wind blew the wrong way, people would be out of
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work. it's awful to feel that insecurity, and feel that circumstances that out of your control. to feel like nobody cares and all the institutions in our land have abandoned you. but americans have overcome so many challenges and some many bigger than what we face today. some think that the anger some americans are expressing is defined by some nostalgic look back for simpler times. i don't agree. what americans are looking for is the quality of leadership we are sorely missing from the past to address today's problems. at each moment of crisis in america, we have united as a country and as a people. it's been our secret weapon all throughout our history. and it's so simple, but it's also invincible. i spoke earlier about the spirit
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of our country. let me say with all the strength i have, our strength and spirit does not reside with a president or with a politician. our strength resides inside of us, the knowledge that we can change the world, the knowledge that we have been made special. you see, the spirit of our country rests in the neighborhoods. the spirit of our country rests in our people. we are the ones. we, you and me are the ones to change the world. the powers are within each and every one of us, and the united america is undefeatable, and we've an exceptional country, and that's because we are the exception in history. we're not an ethnic group or a religion or language. we are that last great hope for earth that ronald reagan often
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spoke of, because we have shown that when people from many different backgrounds and ideas and believes come together with a common noble purpose to be free and just, we're unbeatable. two paths. one choice. the path that exploits anger, encourages resentment, turns fear into hatred and divides people, this path solves nothing. it demeans our history. it weakens our country, and it cheapens each one of us. it has but one beneficiary, and that is to the politician who speaks of it. the other path is the one america has been down before. it's well trod. yeah, at times it's very steep. but it's also solid. it's the same path our fore bearers took together, and it's from this higher path that we are offered the much greater
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view. and imagine for a moment with me that view. fear turns to hope because we remember to take strength from one another. uncertainty turns to peace because we reclaim our faith in the american ideals that have carried us upward before. and america's supposed decline becomes its finest hour because we come together to say no to those who would prey on our human weakness and instead choose leadership that serves, helping us look up, not down. this is the path i believe in. this is the path that america believes in. and this is the america i know all americans want us to be. please join me on this higher path together. united we can reclaim the america we lover and we hold so dear and lift all of us up to
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partake in its and the lord's many blessings. thank you. [ applause ] >> hello, everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm kate bolduan. as you were listening right there, john kasich telling new york voters there are two paths they can choose. one of darkness or his path, but take a look at a new poll out this morning. and so far new york republicans seem to see only one path, and it leads right to donald trump with 60% support. more than 40 points ahead both kasich and cruz. >> the ohio governor's speech to the women's national republican club comes just one week before the new york primary. the stakes very, very high. joining us to discuss this, david chalion, ana navarro, and alex burns. david we listened to kasich give a 25 minute speech.
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this speech was important to the kasich campaign. they were billing about this, talking about it for days. what's going on here. >> this is the kasich candidacy and their rationale. this is the why are you running for president moment down this this race is down to three people, he's getting a good chunk of attention that he had not received at any time previous in this campaign, and so it's his moment to tell voters why he's still in this race, especially because the question he gets all the time is why are you still in this race? because he's so far behind. you've only won state, your home state. this is his answer. >> the campaign says this is the right moment that they should be having a speech like this with the primaries still to come. obviously talking about new york and also the looming convention. the focus was clearly not just talking about his path but taking donald trump on directly. ted cruz, yes, but there were more references to donald trump to sum up, here's one of them for our viewers. >> some who feed off of the
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fears and the anger that is felt by some of us and exploited, feed their own insatiable desires for fame or attention. that could drive america down into a ditch and not make us great again. >> you're the co-chair of donald trump's new york campaign. what do you say? >> it was a wonderful speech, but i think in new york where it matters on tuesday, it's too little, too late. to criticize people for having fear and anger is the wrong tool to get them to vote for you. you see the first poll that's come back now since a lot of the candidates have had the opportunity to campaign in the state a bit. if anything, donald trump has actually increased his lead while the other two have decreased. >> to be fair, he wasn't criticizing people for having fear and anger. he said it's real, but it's what you do about it. he criticized how donald trump was handling it.
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we brought up a poll that has donald trump at 60%. the other guys are beneath 20%. other polls have it closer but not much, frankly. is this exactly what donald trump needs right now? >> it is. and it's exactly what john kasich doesn't need. they were heading into this ten day stretch where casing needs to make something happen or there's no obvious path for them to go anywhere. his rationale has always depended on connecting in midwestern states where he did not or north eastern mid atlantic states coming right up. what we're seeing in the polls right now is his message. liberal blue state, republican message isn't getting him anywhere here. >> after wisconsin there's a s conversation of seeing the beginning of the ending of donald trump. if these numbers hold, donald trump could not only win, he could win big, and we're talking
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about in terms of delegates he could take. if he does, does that throw that argument away? >> it certainly will distract us for a few days, and then until the next result. i think what you're seeing is that donald trump has the comfort of home field advantage here in new york. he is the among his people. he knows the history. he knows the language. he knows how to relate to folks in new york. what i don't understand is why john kasich and ted cruz are not being strategic together. obviously if both of them end up with less than 20%, they are in trouble. it could be the difference between donald trump taking all 95 delegates or not. and this is the moment where there is going to be any strategic coordination between case kasich and cruz, it should happening now. hint, hint john we'mr. weaver.
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>> they are very much pursuing their own dreams for the presidency. they're not trying to take care of just preventing donald trump from being the nominee. >> here's what we know. if they don't prevent donald trump from getting to 1237, neither of them have a chance. and we do know that the only chance either kasich or cruz have is at an open convention where at that point it becomes a free for all and anything can happen. they have a mutual interest in making sure trump doesn't get to 1237 and we get to an open convention. >> they're trying to get romney to broker that kind of talk behind the scenes, and the ted cruz campaign said no thank you. we're not dpoik to be accepting that phone call. at least that was the word. >> we have a lot more to discuss and a huge week continues for politics on cnn continuing tonight. anderson cooper hosting the second of three town halls with republican candidates and their families. a unique opportunity. tonight you'll hear from donald trump, his wife and kids.
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then on wednesday, texas senator ted cruz will be joined by his wife on stage. it all starts tonight, 9 eastern. >> coming up for us, donald trump says the game is rigged. it's krucorrupt. he doesn't like it. the rnc says this has always been the game. it hasn't changed. is reince priebus now taking on donald trump? that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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we're back now with our panel. all here with us still. the fight for delegates continues, and it is getting nasty. at least the way donald trump wants to describe it. he is not letting down in how he is describing the system. corrupt and rigged and he is not backing down at all. reince priebus, the head of the rnc stepped into the conversation yesterday with a tweet saying the rules were set last year. nothing mysterious or new. the rules have not changed. they're the same. nothing different. then a man named am exburns saying can't decide if it's admirable or nuts that reince
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priebus keeps running into the burning building. >> the debate over the fight for votes. there's nothing that he or anyone else is going to be able to say to placate donald trump and his supporters if he comes out of cleveland not the nominee of the republican party. for the rnc but most for the other candidates, a challenge in terms of public communication of explaining how they're not stealing the nomination from donald trump. he hasn't actually secured it, but that's a case that it's hard for the chairman to make from his position, because what you're essentially going to have to do is argue that donald trump hasn't earned this. >> i guess i have two questions right here. as a donald trump supporter, do you feel like the party now with the party chair is lining up against you with this support? he's basically saying donald trump, you're wrong. that's the first question. the second is does donald trump really believe the system is rigged or is the talk a strategy
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to rile up the supporters? >> the rules are the rules. when you look at colorado and south carolina and other states, the republican establishment is doing nothing to distract from the narrative that this race is being sort of coerced from inside. a cnn poll indicated that two-thirds of republicans would be happy to support donald trump if he had the most delegates and a majority of them believe that if donald trump went to the convention with the most delegates he ought to be the nominee. so those -- >> do you think it's more of a communications problem? s in a game and this is how the game has been played for, david can tell us, forever, or do you actually think that he's right? that if he's close, he should get it. >> if it's a communications problem, it's be a communications problem with the establishment trying to explain to people how that states that donald trump won why they're nominating delegates who are pledged because they're legally obligated to for the first ballot and they will do whatever
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they can to not support him on the second ballot. >> i think the fundamental question for the party is sort of is this the best use of their time going forward, to have a very public daily disagreement and defense of the rules against its own front runner? i mean, that's what's unbelievable here. this is the republican party front runner for the nomination, and this is the chairman of the party in this public dispute about the rules interpretation. >> i disagree with that. >> it's not just that either. you also have reince priebus coming out every chance to dispute donald trump on the delegates but you have paul ryan who comes out and takes policy issues or has issues with some of his policy. they're the establishment and setting themselves up in opposition at times to trump. >> what choice do they have in paul ryan is a spokesman for the republican party. he is the leader. he is the brain, the policy guy,
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the think tank guy. and paul ryan is in real, genuine policy opposition. not all republicans are represented by donald trump's position. as far as reince, i don't agree with what he did yesterday. i think yesterday is totally a state level decision. every state, every state party makes their own individual decisions on how to pick their delegates and how to run their contests, whether it's a primary or caucus or convention, whether it's open or closed. those are not decisions made by the rnc, so i don't see the benefit of the rnc inserting themselves. i don't think reince has any option but to try to be as transparent as possible between now and july, because donald trump is trying to lay out the narrative starting a month ago, that if, if he gets close to 1237 and it's not awarded to him on a silver platter or maybe in his case, gold plated since i think he likes gold better than
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silver, it's going to be stolen. that's not how the rules are right now. he needs to get 1237. and yes, i'm among the two third republicans who thinks that if he gets 1237, i won't do it happily, but i will accept that at that point he's the nominee. >> as a supporter of donald trump and someone who understands politics, do you think he bears any responsibility for the rigged stolen element of it. he's been told the rules. he knows they didn't have the organization in place because he brought on paul manafort to try to make up for it. does he need to take any responsibility of not pushing this narrative that it is corrupt and rigged if i don't get it? >> look, the narrative is out there, whether donald trump is the one beating it to death or not, and the republican establish. ment -- establishment is not doing anything to say it's not happening. trump is going to have a big win here in new york and then a week later it will be followed by big
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wins where there's 172 delegates at stake. in two weeks we may not have the conversation because of the turn toward him. >> he doesn't complain about the rules when he's winning. >> this whole debate over whether the delegate rules are kru krumt corrupt or democratic. they are corrupt and undemocratic. it's set up to doop the system. >> on the republican side, we're having the debate publicly. what do you call superdelegates if not the establishment? >> that debate has been had there. i think rigged on democratic differ than corrupt. corrupt is a different problem. they just wanted this way. it's the way it's set up. >> if you believe the party's nomination should reflect the c
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democratic voter, he's run on the strength of his record as a businessman of exploiting rigged systems. he has bragged over and over again about his ability to manipulate the bankruptcy laws and other kinds of business tools to his advantage. why is this different? why shouldn't he be able to win on these terms. >> thank you to all of you. thank you for being here. >> moments ago notes were released on one donald trump. we're going to tell you what they reveal. >> what timing. >> plus donald trump isn't just complaining about the republican primary system. donald trump like ana navarro complaining about the democratic election system as well. so we'll speak with the chair of the democratic national committee to see how she responds to donald trump concerns with her nominating process. that's coming up. don't let dust and allergies get between you and life's beautiful moments. with flonase allergy relief, they wont.
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a new look this morning at the relationship between the clintons and donald trump. this is a relationship decades in the making. it goes back. the clinton presidential library just released nearly 500 pages of records pertaining to trump, including birthday cards, briefings on trump's possible 2000 presidential run, and even this, an autographed copy of the art of the deal addressed to a clinton aid with the note, your mom is the best. >> cnn's jeremy diamond is live at the clinton presidential library in arkansas for more. jeremy, you were there. you were able to see all the documents. what did you find?
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>> reporter: well, what's really interesting is that president obama is not the first president to have had to consider how to answer questions about donald trump. we saw a couple of briefing books from 1999, october '99. that's interesting because that's when donald trump actually announced he was forming a presidential exploratory committee to run, and his aides, the clinton aides are advising him on how to field questions about whether clinton's own scandals have contributed, essentially to the celebrity candidates now considering running for president. and we have an interesting one from a briefing book in 1999 where clinton is advised to respond that this is kind of the way things are, that the media is going to cover it how it's going to cover it and that he trusts the american people to essentially sort out the chaff from the wheat, and he's
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essentially saying he's confident in the way americans are going to consider candidacies such as donald trump. >> bill clinton giving media training to donald trump. any sense of how close the relationship was or the familiarity? >> that's always been a question. >> while bill clinton was in the white house. >> in 1996 discussions between clinton aides, considering whether or not to send a birthday note to donald trump just before his birthday in june of 1996. it's interesting because initially they're saying yes and three days later there's a note from clinton's personal secretary saying cancel letter to trump. it shows the long standing relationship between them, and it's interesting to note that donald trump as he's gearing up for a fight against hillary clinton in january, he went after bill clinton, talking about him being one of the great women abusers of our time and
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essentially calling hillary clinton an enabler. it's interesting to see while donald trump had a long standing relationship with the clintons going back to at least the 1990s, today he's changed his tune as he's running on the republican ticket and potentially going to run against hillary clinton. >> that relationship has clearly changed from the days of the birthday e-mails and the signed copies of the book. jeremy diamond, thank you. >> along those lines, you want a sign of the changed relationship, donald trump has a new line of attack against hillary clinton calling her entire life, a quote, big, fat, beautiful lie. i don't think that donald trump will be getting a birthday card from the clintons going forward. the head of the national democratic committee junipero serras -- joins us to discuss. >> plus the daddy kaedication o national monument dedicated to women. let's listen in.
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>> thank you very much, everybody. thank you. everybody, please have a seat. have a seat. hello, everybody. thank you for the introduction. it should be noted that today is equal pay day which means a woman has to work about this far in 2016 just to earn what a man earned in 2015. what better place to commemorate this day than here at this house where some of our country's most important history took place and where this history needs to inform the work that remains to be done. i want to thank some of the leaders who have worked to keep this house standing. we have members of congress like
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p bab bra mckalski who has been the longest serving woman in the united states senate. [ applause ] our secretary of the interior, sally jewel and her team as we celebrate the 100th birthday of the national parks service this year. [ applause ] >> one of our greatest athletes of all time, one of the earliest advocates for equal pay for professional female athletes and a heroin of mine when i was still young and fancied myself a tennis player, billy jean king is in the house. and the national woman's party board of directors.
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[ applause ] >> over the years paige and her staff have built a community and cared for this house, repairing every cracked pipe and patching every leaked roof. we're grateful for their stewardship. i know it was not easy. equal pay for equal work should be a fundamental principle of our economy. it's the idea that whether you're a high school teacher, a business executive, or a professional soccer player or tennis player, your work should be equally valued and rewarded. whether you're a man or a woman. it's a simple idea. it's a simple principle. it's one that our leader of the democratic caucus in the house nancy pelosi has been fighting for for years. but it's one where we still fall
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short. today the typical woman that works full-time earns $.79 for every dollar a man makes. and the gap is wider for a woman of color. now, if we truly value fairness, then america should be a level playing field where everyone who works hard gets a chance to succeed. that's good for america because we don't want some of our best players on the sidelines. what's why the first bill i signed was a fair pay act. earlier this year on the anniversary of this, we began collecting data, and this action will strengthen the enforcement of equal pay laws that are already on the books and help employers address pay gaps on their own and to build on these
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efforts. congress needs to pass the paycheck fairness act to put sensible rules in place and make sure -- [ applause ] >> and make sure employees who discuss their salaries don't face retaliation by their employers. i'm not here just to say we should close the wage gap. i'm here to say we will close the wage gap. if you don't believe me, then if you don't believe we'll close the wage gap, you need to come visit this house, because this house has a story to tell. this is the story of the national women's party whose members fought to have their voices heard. these women first organized in 1912 with little money but big hopes for equality for women all around the world. they wanted an equal say over
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their children, over their property, their earnings, their inheritan inheritance, equal rights to their citizenship and a say in their government, equal opportunities in schools and universities, workplaces, public service, and, yes, equal pay for equal work. and they understood that the power of their voice in our democracy was the first step in achieving these broader goals. their leader, alice paul, was a brilliant community organizer and political strategist, and she recruited women and men from across the country to join their cause. and they began picketing, seven days a week in front of the white house to demand their right to vote. they were mocked. they were derided. they were arrested. they were beaten. there were forced feedings during hunger strikes, and through all this, women young and old kept marching for suffrage. kept protesting for suffrage, and in 1920 they won that right.
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we ratified the 19th amendment, but the suffragists didn't stop. they moved into this historic house and continued their work. from these rooms accepts away from the capital, they drafted speeches and letters and legislation. they pushed congress and fought for the passage of the equal rights amendment. they advocated for the inclusion of women in the u.n. charter in the 1964 civil rights act. they campaigned for women who were running for congress. this house became a hot bed of activism, a centerpiece for the struggle for equality. a monument to a fight not just for women's equality but ultimately for equality for everybody. one of the things we've learned is that the effort to make sure that everybody is treated fairly is connected. and so today i'm very proud to designate it as america's newest
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national monument, the belmont paul women's national equality monument right here in washington d.c. [ applause ] >> we do this to help tell the story of the suffragists. in these rooms they pursued ideals which shouldn't be relegated to the archives of history, shouldn't be behind glass cases, because the story they're fighting is our story. i want young girls and boys to come here, 10, 20, 100 years ago to know women fought for equality. it was not just given to them. i want them to come here and be astonished that there was ever a time when women couldn't vote or a time when women earned less
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than men for being the same work. i want them to be astonished that there was a time when women were outnumbered in the boardroom or congress or that there was a ever a woman had never sat in the oval office. i don't know -- [ applause ] >> i don't know how long it'll take to get there. but i know we're getting closer to that day, because of the work of generations of active, committed citizens. one of the interesting things as i was just looking through some of the rooms, there was susan b anthony's desk. you had elizabeth katie stanton's chair, and you realize that those early stuff ruffragi
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preceded alice paul by a generation. they had passed away by the time that the vote was finally granted to women. and it makes you realize, and i say this to young people all the time, that this is not a sprint. this is a marathon. it's not the actions of one person, one individual, but it is a collective effort where each generation has its own duty, us own responsibility and its own role to fulfill in advancing the cause of our democracy. that's why we're getting closer, because i know there's a whole new generation of women and men who believe so deeply that we've got to close these gaps. i have faith because what this house shows us is that the story of america is a story of progress. and it will continue to be a story of progress as long as
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people are willing to keep pushing and keep organizing, and yes, keep voting for people committed to this cause and full equality for every american. i'm hoping that a young generation will come here and draw inspiration from the efforts of people who came before them. after women won the right to vote, alice paul, who lived most of her life in this very house said it is incredible to me that any woman should consider the right for full evalquality won. it's just begun. that's the thing about america. we're never finished. we're a constant work in progress, and our future belonged to every free woman and man who takes up the hard work of citizenship to win full equality and shape our own destiny. that's the story this house tells. it's how a national monument that young people will be inspired by for years to come. it would not have happened without the extraordinary
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efforts of many of the people in this room, not only the active support of this house and preserving it, but also the outstanding example that they are setting, that you are setting. i'm very proud of you. congratulations. thank you very much, everybody. and with that you just saw right there, president obama dedicating the belmont paul women's equality national monument. this is a house that served as the head quarters of the national women's party for decades. see right there, him making this on an important day, equal payday. let's talk about this with a man who worked for that guy, bring in dan pfeiffer. dan, you were with president obama for a very long time. everyone remembers his first law he signed in in taking office was the fair bpay act. from the conversations you've
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had with the president, why is this important to president obama? >> for two reasons. one, it's a question of pure economic fair shness. in all the years i worked for president obama. this is an issue important to men. it affects their family income. also more important to that to the president is he is the son of a single mother, the father of two daughters, married to an impressive, strong woman. these are issues that matter to him. when he talks about political movements that have inspired him in his life, whether it's the civil rights movement, you heard him a him talk about this today, this is inspiration to him as he thought about his campaign and the bottom up change that's part of the obama movement. >> i have to ask you a question on a different subject. moments ago we learned that paul ryan has scheduled a speech later this afternoon at the republican national committee.
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aides tell dana bash he's going to rule out that he would let himself be drafted at the republican convention, and he wants to put this matter to rest completely. your reaction? >> look, the i have always believed the paul ryan convention white knight scenario was absurd. paul ryan is the walking, talking embodiment of everything the trump and cruz supporters hate about the republican party. he's pro wall street, pro trade. wants to cut social security and medicare. these are the things that have -- he embodies the disconnect between the working class populism that trump is using with the establishment supply side wall street friendly republican party in washington. and so he was never going to be president. he would have lost handily in a general election, and i think there would have been riots at the convention, maybe not real riots, but figurative riots if they picked an establishment figure like that after trump and
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cruz get the overwhelming majority of the pledged delegates. i think it was never going to happen, probably wise for him to put it to rest now and try to move on and be able to focus the next few months at least on whatever legislating you make an interesting point. why for him, or wise for helpful to republican party and the presidential race? what impact do you think -- even though he said i'm not going to be president. i don't want the nomination. not so quiet whisper campaign, rumor they were thinking about in the end to take the nomination, what is the impact on the actual race, on the dynamic out there right now? >> his -- his greatest interest in putting this to bed is for himself and his staff so they cannot answer a thousand questions. but for, you know, the never trump movement, the stop trump
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movement, whatever you want to call it, if paul ryan is not a solution to that, either because he doesn't want to do it or doesn't make sense it is best to take it off the table so people can come to terms with the real options. basically accept trump or take cruz. if you want to focus the #never trump, or whatever you want to call it in to one vehicle is cruz and taking the ryan fantasy away may make people come to terms that cruz is the only option. >> it would be important, the wording of this speech. how he says this. what he says. we will have more on the conversation on this in just a moment. we will have more on the breaking news, paul ryan just announced the house speaker will be making a speech from capitol hill. they are hearing from aides he will put to rest speculation. he will not be the nominee for president if it comes to one of those scenarios.
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making remarks basically to say that he is going to rule himself out of the save your white knight scenario if it came to that of a brokered republican convention. let's go to capitol hill for more on this intrigue and what it means and what we are learning from the house speaker and his aides. manu, what are you picking up? >> paul ryan believes all the chatter has become a distraction from his speakership. he tried to make it clear for months he did not want to be a candidate. as you have seen the nominating contest involvement. we don't know what will happen at the convention. the chatter about his name as intensified. there are things the speaker has done that had caused speculation
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but they tried to be clear it was not intended to be an effort to run for president. i believe the speaker wants to make that clear this afternoon when he makes his speech at the republican con national committee headquarters. and there is no way he will accept a nomination no way whatsoever. we will see how much this dissuades folks from push iing his name out there. clearly a lot of folks want him to run. >> thank you so much. let me continue the conversation by bringing in the democratic national committee chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz. thank you for joining me. this is just happening right now. i'd love to get your reaction to what you are hearing about your speaker. that paul ryan will be making this speech, maker making remarks later this afternoon that he will rule himself out of this white knight scenario of
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being nominated at a brokered convention. what do you think of it? >> well, i'm not surprised that paul ryan -- not at all surprising that paul ryan doesn't want to step in front of an oncoming speeding train. he's already had to be the savior of the republican party when he had to be recruited as a reluctant candidate to become their speaker because he's got massive chaos in the republican caucus and the house. they have been at a civil war with one another for a long time and we have gotten almost nothing accomplished because of their divisiveness and not surprise he doesn't want to step in front of the train wreck occurring in the presidential campaign, as well. >> let's talk about the presidential campaign right now. one thing i found interesting last night and the last 48 hours. we have heard trump offering support to bernie sanders saying the system is rigged against both of them. i don't think we have time to play the sound but he says
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bernie sanders, every weekend comes and bernie sanders wins, wins, wins and these people are saying he can't win because the system is rigged. he's together with bernie sanders on this. what do you say? >> you know, donald trump should probably worry more about how to organize his own campaign starting with his own family. he isn't organized enough to have made sure his own children were registered to vote as republicans so they could cast votes for him in the republican primary in new york next week. to say nothing of his lack of organization or understanding of the rules of his own party. he should worry about the rules of the republican party and we will worry about the democratic nominee and i'm confident that we will get through our primary nominating contest and our candidates both understand how to go through that process and will come together behind our nominee. and the republican chaos can play out on the other side of
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the aisle. >> reince priebus tweeted. he spoke out about the issue saying the rules were set last year. nothing mysterious, nothing new. the rules have not changed. the rules are the same, nothing different. do you and reince priebus stand shoulder to shoulder on this topic? >> i will say that both the rnc and dnc have similar processes. what we do is -- i this think their process works this way. i know ours does. we have a lengthy process by which our state parties submit their delegate selection plans to our party rules committee. every state does make that submission and the rules committee, which is quite large, reviews the delegate selection plan. 0 our priority is make sure there there is diversity and a wide opportunity for people to cast ballots and the process is fair. of course we then go out and try to educate folks, typically our candidates about each delegate selection process. it is incumbent on those campaigns to get to know that
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process and understand it as each caucus comes up. >> you know, we have a big debate this thursday between two democratic candidates. this back and forth over the debate, when they have a debate, where they will have a debate. it was silly as it was playing over the airways. after this debate on thursday there was twob one more gate debate in california is that still on? >> we have been taking each debate one at a time in terms of the candidates' schedules because the candidates' schedules have obviously intensified. the dnc is working with each candidate's campaign debate by debate to work through their schedules, have the campaigns communicate with us and make sure we can get them on the same page and schedule a debate once they agree on location and date and we bring it in for a disneyla landing. >> at this point, like i said we
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are -- the candidates have agreed to four additional debates. there one one remaining. we have to get past this one before we discuss the next debate. that's what the candidates agreed to. >> thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. no problem. sure. we are two days away from the cnn democratic presidential debate. don't miss hillary clinton and bernie sanders facing off. that's all for us today. thank you so much. "legal view" starts right now. i'm john bermen in for ashleigh banfield today. we have breaking news out of capitol hill. political intrigue perhaps put to rest. the speaker of the house paul ryan is scheduled a speech for a few h

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