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billion people, half of the world's population still remains at risk of ma laylarimalaria. thanks for being part of my program this week. i'll see you next week. hello, everybody, nice to be with you, i'm martin savidge. the drinks and jokes were flowing at the annual white house correspondents' dinner. the so-called nerd prom. its washington's yearly meeting of political insiders and the press and it was president obama's last chance to skewer the media, the critics and even himself. >> it's not just congress. even some foreign leaders have been looking ahead and anticipating my departure. last week prince george showed
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up to our meeting in his bathro bathrobe. that was a slap in the face. >> very cute. this year's tight presidential race fueling much of the president's jokes. after taking a few shots at senator bernie sanders and hillary clinton, he turned attention to the gop. >> reince preiebus is here as well. glad to see that you feel you've earned a night off. congratulations on all of your success. the republican party, nomination process, it's all going great. keep it up. >> we'll be digging deep into last night's final correspondents' dinner over the next hour but first we're expecting the democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders will hold a news conference in washington in the next 30 minutes.
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this comes one year since the senator launched his campaign. cnn washington correspondent jeff zellny is at the site of the news conference. do we have any idea what sanders is about to reveal or say? >> senator sanders will be speaking in 30 minutes ago and i'm told there are no dramatic announcements about his future own than the fact to say he's staying in and going indiana beyond here and indiana primary is on tuesday. he knows well that he is behind in delegates, both pledged and superdelegates and knows this race shifted over the last week. senator sanders has made clear he is going to stay in the race until the end, until the final voters have had their voices heard in june. what senator sanders is going to do today, mark his one year in this race, take stock of the fact that really no one thought he could be this type of challenger on the democratic side and reiterate his desire to
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stay in the race. jeff weaver, his campaign manager was on "state of the union" this morning offering a bit of an argument of why he's staying in this race. >> well, look, this race is not over by any stretch of the imagination, we're going to the end. the senator has said that repeatedly. the platform is of a concern whether he wins or loses as is the whole process by which we elect a democratic nominee. this campaign is going on. we've got indiana coming up on tuesday. and he's going all the way to the end. >> and in fact both democrats will be campaigning in indiana. hillary clinton is there today, bernie sanders going there tonight and tomorrow and taking stock of his moment, his turn in this democratic race. he was on hand at the correspondents' dinner and grinning ear to ear at the new found attention he's embracing and enjoying. and the president said that he is the youth and vigor and new face of the democratic party.
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the president also had another compliment for him. let's take a listen. >> there he is. we've got the bright new face of of the democratic party here tonight, mr. bernie sanders! there he is! bernie! . bernie, you look like a million bucks or to put in terms you'll understand, you look like 37,000 donations of $27 each. >> of course that is a common referring he says over and over that his average contribution is $27, to make the point he is funded by grass root supporters. will that army continue to rise up and stand up for senator sanders here? the final six weeks or so of this campaign? questions of party unity going forward and what he wants and what he does want obviously is to make sure that the democratic
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party platform, this summer at the convention is progressive. that's why he's staying in. we'll be on hand for his announcement in 30 minutes and get back to you. >> it has been absolutely amazing. thank you very much. indiana or bust. may well be ted cruz's mantra until the primary on tuesday. cruz and carly fiorina are hosting precamp events in the state today. this as a new nbc/wall street journal/marist poll shows that donald trump holds a 15-point lead over cruz in indiana. and trump is telling fox news at least today, after indiana this race is over and cruz should give up. >> if you win indiana tuesday, is this race over? >> yes, it's over. i think it's over now. but it's over. cruz cannot win. he has no highway, he's got nothing. he's way behind. i'm leading by millions and millions of votes and by 400 or
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500 delegates, he can't win. >> joining me now to talk about this, mark lamont hill and john brownstein. hello, ron, let's start with you. it's wednesday morning, will we have a nominee? >> i think it donald trump wins indiana with the kind of breadth of support we're seeing in the polling today the race is functionally over. indiana is a legitimate place for ted cruz to make a stand. it has been his best constituentdy throughout the campaign and it's the reverse of new york, new york, if you can't make it there, you can't make it anywhere. if donald trump wins indiana and with the kind of breadth we see in the primary in new york where the -- along with earlier but those resisting him, i think the race is functionally over. >> mark, i've got to ask you about obama said about the correspondents' dinner, no
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republican -- no one really was safe from the president's final roast. listen to some of what he had to say about republicans. >> just look at the confusion over the invitations to tonight's dinner. guests were asked to check whether she wanted steak or fish, instead a whole bunch of you wrote in paul ryan. that's not an option people, steak or fish. you may not like steak or fish, but that's your choice. >> clearly the president enjoying himself. you were on that panel last night. you gave obama a c plus? >> c plus -- >> a lot of twitter hate about it. what gives? >> i'm not comparing him to roosevelt or jimmy carter but himself. he's done eight of these and his
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have always been the showstopper. many comedians have been reluctant to go after president obama because he's been so great. i don't think it was awful. i give a c plus based on his own past performances. i think he's done better. he could have gone harder with the trump stuff. i thought the john boehner thing was heart warming but wasn't comedic gold. i actually saw mised opportunities there. i thought he could have gone harder for the last run. >> i got you. he might have gone all out. did obama play it too safe? >> tough grading. the thing about president obama has been both in public and in private settings and off the record settings, he has always had the ability to have distance and perspective on being president, even as he's doing it and commenting on it. i've always found his monday logs at the white house correspondents' dinners, very
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reveal, giving you a sense of his sense of what it's like to be president and his kind of poking at the absurdities in many ways of how the modern media system evolved. they are very revealing in that way. you get an idea what's on his mind. the joke about ted cruz, what's next, baseball stick, football hat, that is actually not only a joke but kind of an insight into something that kind of gnaws at him or at least he finds amus g amusing. >> i think i will point out that obviously many of these jokes are written for the president but the president is the one who delivers him and his timing, he is a master of timing, i have to say that. mark lamont hill and ron brownstein, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks, martin. >> president obama and his wife michelle are announcing today that their oldest daughter malia will attend harvard university. she graduate this spring but
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will take a year off, the gap year before starting school. something the university encourages admitted students to do. she won't start college until after her father leaves office making her a member of the class of 2021. congratulations to her. still ahead, president obama speaks to cnn exclusively on the hunt for osama bin laden. >> after the discussions with the principles it was clear to me that this was going to be our best chance to get bin laden, that if in fact we did not take the action that he might slip away. >> we'll have a whole lot more from our exclusive conversation with the president in just a minute.
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tomorrow marks a crucial moment on the war in terror. it was five years ago osama bin laden was killed. in an exclusive report airing tomorrow night on ac 360. president obama talks about the planning and preparation enultimately the pay back for the 9/11 attacks. >> the last person that bin laden saw on earth was an american. so -- >> and hopefully at that moment he understood that the american people hadn't forgotten some 3,000 people who he had killed. >> cnn national security analyst peter bergen joins us from
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washington. kb don't you suppose most americans had the same reaction you did or not? >>? what sense? >> i guess you're essentially saying this is a american looking into the eyes of a dying man and saying gotcha? >> the overwhelming kind of if you take the totality of what president obama said and also his national security advisers who we also interviewed, there was no high fiving about this when this happened. there was a feeling that justice had been done, not revenge but justice. and that you know, america doesn't forget. and if you attack united states, you know, you're going to pay a price at some point. it may take a while and it took almost ten years, but certainly he must have known they were coming, a helicopter crash happened in his compound, there was a fire fight and had probably about 15 minutes to
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think about all of this. the last thing he did see was an american, the person who killed him. >> and this was the first obama interview ever given in a situation roomy understand. so what was that like and did it give you a sense of what the tension must have been like in the room and the feeling when this raid was pulled off? >> just to clarify it was his first sit down interview in the situation room and the situation room actually refers to a complex of rooms. there's the well known situation room that is reconstructed in movies and we sat down with him and talked about that moment where he made the -- he was the -- the final meeting where the various courses of action were discussed and then this iconic photograph also in the situation room complex but it is a much smaller room not much larger than a very small office. earn we also talked to the president in there, where everybody went in because it was a video feed of the raid as it went down. it wasn't a video feed from on the ground but it was from an
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overhead drone. and back in the main situation room they could only hear audio. everybody crowded in there to see what the video was and they could see that a helicopter had gone down and the president said to us when we interviewed him, that wasn't an ideal start, which is a nice understatement given the fact that you know, this -- it looked like things were not going well but craven who we spoke to at length for this special, there had been a lot of planning about the things that could go wrong and there was a back upplan to the backup plan. so everybody had a lot of confidence in the s.e.a.l.s and admiral mccraven himself, even with the helicopter taking a hard land being, the operation was able to succeed pretty well flawlessly. >> the president told you this was the best chance to get bin
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laden. let's listen to that clip. >> after the discussions with the principals it was clear this was going to be our best chance to get bin laden. if in fact we did not take the action, that he might slip away and might be years before he resurfaced. i had confidence that we could get our guys back. we knew that it was going to cause some significant blowback within pakistan. and that if it wasn't bin laden, probably the cost would outweigh the benefits. and at the would lose face internationally because there 3 was probably going to be a lot of difficulty keeping it secret once the operation started. >> he sort of downplays it here but the repercussions could have been huge.
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did he or anyone else have second thoughts at the moment that the president sort of said, go? >> well, no, senior advisers were giving him -- some of them said do not do the raid. urge caution, robert gates, vice against the raid. but others like hillary clinton urged for it. and yes, if things -- we know how this turned out but for people making decisions there would have been a lot of things that could have gone wrong. there could have been a s.e.a.l.s down and s.e.a.l.s taken hostage. you know, it could have been -- there were a lot of negatives and the other big thing, they didn't know if bin laden was definitely there. the likelihood was 40%, others thousand 60%, others thought 80%. these percentages were misleading because he was either there or wasn't. if you went in and he wasn't there and pakistani military had
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a pretty big facility not far from where bin laden was living, there was some kind of exchange of fire, it's a sovereign nation, nominal ally of the united states, breaching that sovereignty, a lot of things could have gone wrong. >> right. well, i find it fascinating and looking forward to your special. thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. peter bergen. make sure to watch, cnn's "ac 360" special, we got him. president obama, bin laden and war on terror. only on cnn. dvr if you can't watch when it's on. we'll be right back. and use it as a drawing tool, it's the only one i need. i'm in vests and as a vested investor in vests, i invest with e*trade, where investors can investigate and invest in vests... or not in vests.
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you probably remember donald trump launched his campaign with an anti-immigration salvo, that inspired a wave of protests that continues to this day and gave rise to something unexpected, latino activists supporting trump. yeah, it's complicated and it involves not just the protests and the political rhetoric but actual latinos on both sides of the issue for whom the stakes are very real and very high. cnn's nick val lens ya has more. >> we went under a fence and through a fence. and oh, boy, i felt like i was crossing the border actually. >> reporter: you've heard it before, a controversial comment on immigration by a republican presidential candidate donald
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trump. >> they are bringing drugs, bringing crimes they are rapists and some i assume are good people. >> it's remarks like this about mexico that's inspired a new wave of latino activism, both for and against the candidate. >> yes. yes. >> reporter: trump event in wisconsin in march we meet miguel, an adamant trump supporter. >> what do you say to people who can't believe you're supporting dondal trump? >> illegal immigrants that both -- >> reporter: he inmigrated from mexico to the u.s. legally. now a u.s. citizen, trul p empowered him to speak up and speak out against illegal immigration. >> yeah, because i have come in the right way. you have to come in the right way. >> i can't believe those latino
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people support donald trump because those people, they forgot what they come from, you know. >> reporter: for the flores family with donald trump surging in the polls they say it is a battle of survival while four thirn were born in the u.s., jose and maria entered illegally. under a trump presidency, they fear their family will be broken up. because of trump, the flores family and many others like them have stepped up their activist for undocumented immigrants in an act of pride. at rallies they wave both the mexican and american flags. >> i think everyone wants to be proud where they came from and wants to be part of the united states. >> we are united. >> the next president of the united states, mr. donald j. trump. >> should trump actually become the next president, he will likely do so with the help of latinos, something mexican
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supporter miguel said won't be a problem. >> only way to open the door and take it out all of the bad stuff for the white house. >> the flores family couldn't disagree more. >> i want to send a message to donald trump, my childrens make america great. not donald trump. >> without question he has inserted immigration in a deciding issue in the presidential cycle. latino make up more than half and latinos are now present at every state near the largest majority in half of those states and they have the acapacity to reshape the political system and using their voices to be more vocal before for and against donald trump. >> some people might expect that latinos either vote democratic, all monolivically and they don't. >> matt wrote a great book on latinos in america. of the elections they vote in,
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half voted at least once for a gop candidate. donald trump is speaking for them and things they were thinking for years and those who inmigrated to the country legal. those tend to be the ones who feel they did it the right way and everyone else should as well. >> good to see you. >> don't miss donald trump tomorrow morning on cnn. he joins "new day" at 7:00:00 eastern. bernie sanders expected to hold a press conference shortly in washington. we're going to take you there as soon as it begins. take with us. ♪ if you have allergy congestion, muddling through your morning is nothing new. ...your nose is the only thing on your mind... ...and to get relief, anything is fair game. introducing rhinocort® allergy spray from the makers of zyrtec®. powerful relief from your most frustrating
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ny minute now bernie sanders will hold a press conference. >> senator sanders is going to
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be taking the podium in just a few moments here and we're getting a sense of what he's going to be talking about. we've been given a copy of a handout listing the states that he won, new hampshire, washington state, vermont, utah and minnesota and showing percentage of wins and percentage of superdelegates he's getting from those. the superdelegates also have a say in this. clearly senator sanders will be making the argument he's staying in the race and he's going to be trying to persuade the super se delegates to look twice at them. let's take a listen.
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>>. >> okay, thanks very much for being here on a beautiful sunday afternoon. we announced the beginning of our campaign a year ago and before i talk about the delegate math and our path to a victory, i want to say a few words about how far we have come in the last year. i want to thank the millions and millions of people who have supported us in every way. when we started this campaign as most of you know we were considered to be a fringe candidacy we started with no campaign organization and we started with no money. we started very little name recognition outside of my own
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state of vermont. in national polls, we were trailing secretary clinton by at least 60 points and some cases a little bit more. in this campaign we have taken on the entire democratic establishment in state after state. we have taken on the senators and members of the congress and governors and mayors and we have taken them all on. and in the clinton organization, obviously we are taking on the most powerful political organization in this country, an organization that has won two presidential elections with bill clinton and ran a very strong campaign with hillary clinton in 2008. that was what we were up against. that was then and today is today, as of today, we have now won 17 primaries and caucuses in every part of the country. and by the way, we hope to make
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indiana our 18th victory on tuesday. and we have received some 9 million votes. in recent national polls we're not behind secretary clinton by 60 points anymore. in the last few weeks actually there have been a couple of polls that have us in the lead, other polls have us single digits behind. in terms of fund raising, we have received more individual campaign contributions, 7.4 million, than any candidate in presidential history at this point in a campaign. we do not have a super pac and do not get our money from wall street or drug companies or powerful corporations. our money is coming from the middle class and working class of this country, averaging $27 a campaign contribution. i'm very proud of the fact we
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have just raised in the last month, had a phenomenally good month and raised over $25 million, despite the fact that 80% of the primary and caucuses are behind us. what the political revolution has shown is that we can run a strong winning campaign without a super pac and without being dependent on big money interests. as of today and i don't know if anybody else has done it, i don't know that, we have brought out over 1.1 million people to our rallies from maine to california. that number will go you have very significantly because we intend to have a number of major rallies in the state of california. very importantly, we have won in
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state after state, a strong ma jrt of votes of younger people, under 45 years of age. in other words, the ideas that we are fighting for are the future of the democratic party and in fact the future of this country. i'm not just talking about 23 years of age and younger, we're talking about people 45 years of age or younger. the reason for that, i believe, is that the issues we are talking about are the issues that are on the minds of the american people, people know whether you're conservative or progressive, that a corrupt campaign finance system with super pacs is undermining american democracy and they understand there is something fundamentally wrong when the american worker is working
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longer hours for lower wages and understand we have a broken criminal justice system with more people in jail than any other country on earth. they understand that we have got to deal with the planetry crisis of climate change and other things impose a tax on carbon. they understand that at a time we have a major growing crisis with regard to clean water. we need to end fracking. they understand in the competitive global economy we need to make public colleges and universities tuition free and they understand that when uch a grotesque level of income and wealth inequality, large profitable corporations in the top 1% are going to have to pay more in taxes. >> you're listening to bernie sanders as he summarizes where his campaign is one year after it began. we're going to continue to monitor this. there's going to be a section of q and a and we'll go back for
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that as well. in the meantime, we want to bring in cnn political commentatser mark lamont hill and what are we making of this? are we expecting there's a point? >> i think the point that senator sanders is trying to make we're missing the point about this campaign. we've been distracted by the donald trump, ted cruz kasich dilemma, none of them have a path to victory, we've been ignoring the fact he has a path to victory and hillary clinton will not reach the magic number and doing something incredible, leading something incredible that's taking place within the democratic party. the republican party might be burning down but the democrat being party is in crisis right now. when 80% of those under the age of 50 newly registered independents and progressive leaning and democrats are siding
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with this revolution and look at hillary clinton's wins she's winning in closed primary states with two demographics alone. those are for the most part when you look at it nationally, women over the age of 50 and african-americans over the age of 55. >> i get this but what is the point he's making today? why now and what is this as we go forward to the next series of primaries? >> well, we have 14 states to go. okay. we're writing his obituary, when neither candidate based on margins of victories, hillary clinton, will reach the pledged delegate, 2383 pledge delegate count who determines the nominee of the democratic party. and what the media has done and not all media, let me be fair, what most have done because it's a establishment run campaign, they've written his obituary when there's a clear path to
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victory. tad divine was the architect behind superdelegates and strategist for bernie sanders campaign. there's no better expert on this topic of how to get to a win than tad divine -- >> hold osh on. >> let me bring in mark. every day we see more sanders supporters saying they are not going to vote for clinton if she becomes the nominee. should the clinton campaign take that threat seriously? are we seeing really the democratic party threatening to split much as many have said the republican party will do? >> let me quickly answer the previous part. i agree bernie sanders has a path to victory but it is a very, very tight narrow path to victory and hillary clinton wont reach the magic number based on pledge delegates but when we factor in superdelegates -- >> they don't come until the end. we have to make that clear. dnc rules -- >> let me finish. >> let's let him finish. >> i agree. we're not on different pages here. but what i'm saying is the
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people say bernie sanders doesn't have a easy path because the superdelegates declared where they are going. unless they change their mind at the convention, there will be a hillary clinton victory. i agree with all of the electoral process and people being blocked off at the polls, the path is somewhat narrow, we have to be honest, even if it's unfair. to the other point here, i think hillary clinton absolutely needs to worry about bernie sanders supporters because if they stay home we'll look at the trump inauguration. but the way for hillary clinton to appeal to sanders supporters, if she does win, what we have too do is not simply find a way to get them to the polls but create policy that actually appeals to those on the underside of american democracy, to repair this broken economy and think you about how we can give cause access to everybody and talk about racial disparity and try to get rid of this liberal logic every aspect of
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our public and private lives. >> all right, i was really looking for a shorter answer but mark lamont hill, thank you very much. we'll keep listening to bernie sanders and we'll be back after we get into the q and a session. thank you. up next, nobody was spared in last night's correspondents' dinner, even sanders rival, hillary clinton. listen. >> got to admit it though, hillary trying to appeal to young voters is a little bit like your relative who just signed up for facebook. dear america, did you get my poke? is it appearing on your wall? i'm not sure i'm using this right. love, aunt hillary. (vo) some people have to travel for work. (phone rings) hi mom! hi dad! (vo) some people get to travel for work. i'm video chatting with my parents. they just moved down to boca. (dad) honey, can you see us? (vo) it's the little things that make a big difference. courtyard, make room for a little fun.
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♪ tomorrow, tomorrow i love ya, tomorrow.♪ ask your heart doctor about entresto. and help make tomorrow possible. ♪ you're only a day away ♪ i don't know if you watched the correspondents' dinner last night. president obama took plenty of shots at the media and also took quite a few at himself. and he contemplated how he would spend his days leaving office and he got some advice from someone who knows a thing or two about stepping out of the spotlight. >> so getting advice -- >> now you want my advice? stop sending me these linked dsz in requests and you have all of the time in the world to figure this out. you can just be you for a while.
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if you know how to do that again. >> i can be me? >> i can wear my mom jeans. i hate these tight jeans. >> good. >> yesterday i had a beer at 11:30 in the morning and you know, mcdonald's now serves breakfast all day long. >> michelle is going to be at spin class, she'll never know. >> right, let it go. won't long and you'll be able to walk out singing zipty do da, zipty -- >> cnn entertainment analyst chris witherspoon joins me from new york. this was the president's last correspondents' dinner and looked to go out with a bang. did he? >> he went out with a bang, no holds barred. i think president obama showed he's the ultimate performer. he can go anywhere. the clip of him leaving, he could pull a reverse reagan and
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go from the white house to hollywood. he's that brilliant. his jokes were amazing. i think he did better than larry wilmore who came after him and followed up. this shows obama is a guy next door. he had brilliant writers and him talking from the white house to gold man sacks to get some tub mans. this is a president we'll miss very much. >> i know he has professional writers but he does a great job with delivery and ad libs a punch line or two. you mentioned wilmore and posted, if i were larry wilmore, i would grab a bottle of red and sit in the back table in the crowd. it's true. i mean, let's face it the president of the united states is a tough act and he fell kind of flat. >> i mean, again, obama is an ultimate performer, we've seen
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him on comedians with cars with larry seinfeld and larry wilmore was the big act but how do you follow that? i think being on the same age obama came across fresher, more in tune with what folks wanted to hear and you can see reactions on twitter. everyone said, more obama please and larry wilmore fell flat in a lot of ways. >> a star is born. president of the united states, i think he's going to be all right after this. chris witherspoon. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> up next, we'll go inside california's san quinton prison and look at the inmates and culture behind the bars.
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america has the highest number of people of jail in the world and 60% wind up going back. one of the country's most famous prisons located in san quentin, california. taking a rare look inside san quentin to find out more about the inmates and prison and the culture. i'm looking around and see different groups of people in different areas. are the areas broken up? >> they are broken up in a way. beyond the tennis court where the white guys are. there are a couple of different
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areas for those guys and basketball court, that's primarily where all of the african-americans are. flz an area of land behind us near the shack where the pizas, hispanic inmate, not californian, so to speak. and northern hispanic, there's an area where they are at. the yard is segregated based upon those underground rules. >> okay. >> it seems like the black guys got the basketball court, no surprise there. if you're a white guy who wants to play basketball, is it not recommended you go over there? i mean, do they got a good jump shot? >> you may feel that way and it may not feel these guys have an issue with you but the guys that tlook like you may have an issue with you coming over here. >> is there a effort to create across poll nation. >> there are many efforts, work assignments, we do try to bring the population together and
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successfully put people next to each other who traditionally will not be next to each other. >> joining us now live from san quentin, we talked to you yesterday and last night they were getting an early screening of the episode that the rest of us will see tonight. you were there. what was their reaction? >> i was really blown away by their reaction. they were excited to see themselves on screen and excited to know we let them tell their own stories. they told their full story from the guilt about what they did all the way through the fact they have reformed themselves. it went over really well. i'm excited about that. i hope the show does well tonight in the ratings but that means more than anything. >> when you went in, we all go with an idea what prison might be like. but we have these ideas, did you go in with misconceptions? >> absolutely. i think i have the same misconceptions that everybody
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has who doesn't spend time in prison in any way. media and tv and movies and the prison documentaries make you think it is gross and scarry and only focus on that. there's a pluralty of people doing their time and trying to find ways to better themselves. within about five minutes i walked in and guy recognized me from television, i thought this is going to be fun. then after that i hung out and talked to people and sometimes i would forget i was in prison about these guys, just a bunch of guys talking to each other. >> i get what you're saying. >> i mean, i know i had fun because i got to leave but did have a good time in prison. >> we started off saying no country i believe in the world beyond the u.s. puts as many in prison as we do. what did you learn about who is in prison and how many and just this kind of population that sits behind bars? >> well, i mean, a lot of inmates talk about the prison industrial complex, the fact
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there's prison as a business in this country and for the business to do well we have to sentence people. and then the america's 13% black but 40% of prisoners are black. there's a whole mess of issues that roll into the american prison system that the inmates are very conversant with and we talked about it a lot. we have to look at the industry as a whole and start over i think. look at norway. we have a 60% recidivism rate. >> lessons learne starting tonight. thank you for joining us, watch tonight right here on cnn. and we have a whole lot more ahead in the newsroom. it all starts right now. >> thanks for joining me. bernie sanders is still speaking at the news conference in
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washington. jeff zellany just asked him a question about trump's claims that he will soon be attract being sanders supporters. >> on fox news sunday that he's intrigued by your message you have used to take on secretary clinton and plans to use that message as sound bitds as arguments. going forward as you continue through the rest of this, do you plan to change any of your tone? do you believe you are contributing to his campaign by helping him advance? >> i want to congratulate donald trump who has managed to manipulate the media in an unprecedented way. every word he says is three hours on cnn or some other station. no, the re-republican party and trump have the resources to do all of the opposition research they want on second clinton. they don't need bernie sanders' critiques of the secretary. and as i've said before, when
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you look at a donald trump who wants to give hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to the top 2/10 of one percent. the man who thinks that climate change is a hoax. a man who thinks we should not raise the starvation wage minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. i think in the general election no matter who runs against him, this guy will not be a strong candidate. i know and you should know what trump is trying to do -- >> he's saying it's your voice, you as her rival helping him make the argument, it's not the research, the fact you are saying -- >> i think that's nonsense and glad to see he manages to get through to some media making that point. what is a campaign about? a campaign is supposed to be about not just political gossip it's actually suppo

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