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reprisal attacks against the local population whom they accuse of being isis sympathizers. a lot of concern of how the forces will act and that could enflame sectarian forces. >> thank you, jomana karadsheh. all right. "early start" continues now. >> happening now, an under water search for the black boxes of egyptair flight 804 as we learn new information on what happened in the cockpit before it crashed from the sky. breaking news this morning. president obama lifting a 50-year-old ban to sell weapons to vietnam. it is a move that is sure to anger china. we are live with the possible repercussions. the race for president intensifying. bernie sanders calling hillary
clinton the lesser of two evils as new polls reveal a dead heat with the democratic frontrunner and donald trump. >> will this be a nail biter? good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm alison kosik. >> i'm george howell. it is 5:00 a.m. on the east coast. happening now, egypt deploying a submarine to search for egyptair flight 804. it is searching for the black boxes. the flight data recorders hold details of what happened on the plane before it crashed. and french officials said the aircraft sent out signals of smoke. and investigators are focusing on security at the airports that the plane visited before the flight. four of the five, brussels, tunis and cairo were already under scrutiny. joining us live is cnn's nic
robertson. nic, it is good to have you with us. what can you tell us about the submarine and how it will help in the search? >> reporter: george, we just got details in from the french. they are sending a ship or vessel to the recovery area to help the egyptians. on board that ship, two specialist divers, a small submersible vehicle and a ping detector. this is the first time we heard of a ping detector. this is the device that goes in the water to detect the ping from the black boxes. egyptian authorities say they need help in the recovery effort. they have been asking for help. now that help seems to be appearing over the horizon if you will. the way the french are
characterizing the situation, the ship has to search for the debris before they will actually put that submersible and ping detector into the sea. the indications coming here from the french is that this search is still at the early stage. very early stage. although the egyptians deployed this submarine vehicle that can go to a depth of 3,000 meters, there is a lot more to be done here. the sea where the ships are is up to two miles deep. 5,000 meters deep which is beyond the capacity of both of those sub practice reasracticma. having this ping detector on-site is important. everyone is preparing us for what is a long process. >> the search is ramping up more equipment to do the job.
also doing the job of the airline. the government notifying the next of kin. talk about the difficult process there and how these families are dealing with it days on after the plane went down. >> reporter: as we all saw at the airport in cairo when families came at charles de gaulle as well, horrible for them to learn this terrible information about their loved ones. government took them and gave them as much information. egyptair gave those families that information from paris. you have the funeral services for the families. the funeral for the flight attendant and also a pilot. very emotional times. for the government, a tough job of trying to give the information to the families. it's heartbreaking. they talked about the dna analysis. it is a tough job.
talked about the legal process about they will get death certificates. the families lives must go on in absence of bodies, a difficult legal process. all of this is happening. very hard time for everyone. >> you feel for these families with such little information out there. the search is intensifying. nic robertson, thank you. turning to politics. bernie sanders getting tough on the dnc and blasting the party and ramping up his fight against debbie wasserman schultz. sanders claims despite his shortfall in delegates, he has a path to the white house. cnn's sunlen serfaty has more. >> reporter: sanders is striking a defiant tone through california in the middle of the five-day swing in the state of back-to-back events leading to
the june 7th primary. as he speaks to supporters, he is really trying to make the case to validate his path forward and validate staying in the race. even though he is well behind in the popular vote and pledged delegates. here is what he told his supporters in vista, california sunday. >> we win when voter turnout is high. if voter turnout is high, with your help, we are going to win the lion's share of those delegates. if we win the nomination, i assure you, donald trump will not become president of the united states. >> reporter: sanders is taking on a harsher tone to the democratic nominating process and the democratic leadership. over the weekend, that came in the form of bernie sanders speaking out against debbie wasserman schultz. the dnc chair. he endorsed her opponent in the primary race in florida.
that is an affront to her and the party. >> my views are closer to his than wasserman schultz. let me say this, if elected president, she would not be reelected as chair. >> reporter: no mincing of words from bernie sanders. she intends to remain neutral in the process. to help us break all this down, the battle with the political action, let's bring in eugene scott in the washington bureau. good morning, eugene. >> good morning. >> look. we're looking at two candidates on the democratic side that seem to be fighting. the fight goes on. when you talk about clinton and trump at a statistical dead
heat. you have seen clinton move in on trump. take a listen to what she said over the weekend. >> there's no evidence he has any ideas about making america great as he advertises. he seems to be particularly focused on making himself appear great. as we go through this campaign, we're going to be demonstrating the hollowness of his rhetoric. and the danger of a lot of what he has said. >> so is that becausehe republicans are starting to coalesce on his side or is it because hillary clinton is still in the fight with bernie sanders? >> i think one reason we are seeing trump continue to rise is because as much as there is a
never trump contingent in the electorate, there is a never hillary. there are some people who simply do not agree with her positions and would prefer trump no matter what he offers no matter how significant. she cannot get those people on board with her. >> it is interesting, eugene, the new polls came out basically showing clinton and trump in a dead heat. we have the wall street journal/nbc news poll. you see the percentages. a second poll, the washington post/abc news poll. these are polls among registered voters. everyone was so quick writing off donald trump. calling him a joke.
dismissing him as a viable candidate. you have voters saying you can't tell me how i will vote. >> very much so. much has been written about the media and political elites have under estimated trump and his supporters. there are people resonating with the ideas he is putting forward. i regularly talk to people who are not excited about trump. at the end of the day, they will choose him over hillary clinton or bernie sanders. we saw this in 2012 with mitt romney. there were people who got on board who were not crazy about mitt romney. they would rather support the republican nominee over the democratic one. >> we are talking about two of the most unpopular candidates running for president. >> very much so. there's a lot of dissatisfaction with our options this time around. so i would be surprised if turnout is at historic lows. i'm interested to see what
people will do come november. i talk to people who are engaged in the political process professionally and personally who quite frankly at this point don't think they will vote at all. >> eugene, i will ask you. we talk about the polls. they are important, but they are a snapshot of where the race is right now. when it comes down to that all important electorate college, are we seeing the map change? >> we are seeing more republicans coming on board with donald trump. i think the narrative or idea that republican leaders are not supporting trump, while accurate right now, it is premature. we have six more months left to go. we have seen bigger changes and bigger things happen in that time period in an election that could have a significant impact. so it could change. also, you know, we still do not know what the super delegates will do on the democratic side.
although many of them are leaning to hillary clinton. bernie sanders supporters are putting out the fact that this too can change. >> all right. eugene, thank you for joining us. we will come back to you. breaking news this morning. president obama revealing a major u.s. policy change that is sure to anger china. we are live next. my tow peptocopter! ♪ when cold cuts give your belly thunder, pink relief is the first responder, so you can be a business boy wonder! ♪ fix stomach trouble fast with pepto. ifor all the wrong reasons.gical you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. try zyrtec®. muddle no more®. [alarm beeps] ♪
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breaking news this morning that is sure to anger china. president obama announcing at a joint news conference with vietnam that the u.s. is lifting the ban on the sale of military equipment to vietnam. cnn's michelle kosinski is traveling with the president and joins us from hanoi. michelle, this came as a surprise to the reporters following the president. tell us about that.
>> reporter: there was some uncertainty if this would be announced during the trip. the white house talked about it prior. they put it in terms of it will be discussed. it didn't seem like it was a definite decision made here. when the president of vietnam was the first to announce it and that was through a translator. everyone wanted to make sure that was indeed true. it took president obama several minutes before he confirmed it. the arms embargo has been gradually been lifted. >> the united states is fully lifting the ban on the sale of military equipment to vietnam that has been in place for some 50 years. the decision to lift the ban was not based on china or any other considerations. it was based on our desire to
complete what has been a lengthy process of moving forward normalization with vietnam. >> reporter: he said this was based on the relationship. you heard him say it is not about china. he also said it is not tied to human rights. human rights, though, are hard to ignore here. president obama emphasized he would continue to speak out for freedom of speech, freedom of the press, the right to assemble, which are universal. you look at vietnam's record. the human rights situation here is dire in all areas. for its part, the new president of vietnam today said that they are working to institutionalize expansion of human rights. he looked forward to continuing the dialogue with the united states to try to bridge that gap to increase human rights here. whether or not that comes to fruition is another story. this is a place that continues
to arrest political prisoners. freedom of speech is nonexistent here. george. >> let's talk about how this move is something that could anger china. we are talking about vietnam. a country competitive with china in the south china sea. what's this significance and how will china view this? >> reporter: china is never happy when the u.s. strengthens ties, especially militarily with its other allies in the region. allies like vietnam that have current dispute was disputes with china. the u.s. doesn't like to take sides on that particular issue, but supports freedom of navigation and freedom of over flight and acknowledges that china doesn't follow those rules. this is a way to counter china
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bernie sanders calling hillary clinton the lesser of two evils as new polls reveal a dead heat with the democratic frontrunner and donald trump. good morning. welcome back to "early start." i'm george howell. >> i'm alison kosik. it is 30 minutes past the hour. egypt deploying a submarine in the help for the flight 804. the data recorders hold key details about what happened before the crash. the french authorities say the plane signalled smoke in the airplane moments before it crashed. four of the five places that the plane visited before the flight were already under terror scrutiny. joining us now is nic robertson. >> reporter: good morning,
alison. egyptians are getting help from the french. we are told the french survey vessel with two dive experts, a small submarine and ac krrkaccu detectors. the weather is rough today. a lot of white tops on the waves and swell. that will make the search and recovery harder. the submarine has a depth of 3,000 meters. it sounds a lot. the sea is as much as 2 miles deep or 5,000 meters deep. it is really critical to have this french ping detector to detect the pings coming off the black boxes that are now believed to be resting on the ocean floor. egyptians have said all along they are short of some necessary
equipment to do the search. the minister of aviation is working with the allies to get the equipment. to get a sense of where the egyptians are in the stages that the search will go through, the french have put it this way. the french are saying they still need to find the main parts of debris before they can even usefully deploy the submersible vehicle to pick up the transmissions. they are warning this could take some time. days or weeks, alison. >> cnn's nic robertson with latest from alexandria, egypt. thank you. the latest for the white house shows hillary clinton in a dead heat with presumptive nominee donald trump. in an nbc poll, trump gains four points over last month. putting him three points behind
her in a statistical tie now. and a new washington post/abc news poll, trump is ahead 46%. this as clinton calls him dangerous. >> i do not want americans and good thinking republicans as well as democrats and independents to start to believe that this is a normal candidacy. it isn't. what he is advocating. look what he has done this past week. attacking our closest ally. england. heaping praise on a dangerous dicta dictator in north korea. talking about letting other countries have nuclear weapons. advocating a return to torture and even murdering the families of suspected terrorists. that is beyond the pale. it poses immediate dangers. >> so hillary clinton going point by point laying out all
the things that trump has said. >> she has a nice laundry list there. let's bring in our political reporter eugene scott in the washington bureau. thank you for getting up early for us. >> good morning. >> we saw hillary clinton make the rounds on "meet the press" sunday. she continued to beat the drum that donald trump is not releasing his tax returns. >> i think he needs to release his tax returns. the only two we have show he hasn't paid a penny in taxes. yet, he goes around talking about make america great. you know, that means paying for our military. that means paying for our roads. that means paying for the v.a. that means a lot of things. if you have someone running for president afraid to release his tax returns because it will expose the fact he pays no federal income tax, that is a big problem. >> many are saying is he hiding something? eugene, tell me this.
is this more of a thing where it is the candidates running for president or a media thing that wants him to release it? do voters really care that much? is this a deciding factor? >> certainly. there is a segment of trump support and base where they don't care what he will do or what he won't do. they support him so deeply. it will have no affect on them. for people who are still on the fence or just want to know more, it is an issue of concern. i think we have seen that every republican and democratic nominee since i believe at least '76 has released tax returns. that is for various reasons. one is people want to know if a nominee has a conflict of interest. they want to know about philanthropy giving. i know there was an issue with
the fund-raiser in iowa. people are concerned. interestingly enough as well, this week, we are going to see some advances made in trump's vice presidential candidate process. from what we reported, he has seen and as for the tax returns of the vice presidential candidates. has yet to release his. there is something interesting going on. >> what's good for the goose is good for the gander. >> eugene, we are talking about two of the most unpopular candidates in the u.s. election. bernie sanders is seizing on that. saying people do like me. listen to what he had to say. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> we need a campaign and an election coming up which does not have two candidates who are really very, very strongly disli disliked. i don't want to see the american people voting for the lesser of two evils. i want you to vote for justice
and social justice and environmental justice. that is the campaign we are running. that's why we are getting the support we are. >> eugene, does that play help bernie sanders or sanders staying in the race or does that hurt hillary clinton as we see trump raising with republicans coming together around him? >> it is a bit of a backhanded compliment. at the end of the day, if you have to choose between the two, go with hillary clinton. the reason why that somewhat matters, as you know, bernie sanders has quite a few supporters who said they will not vote for anybody other than bernie sanders. for him to say if you have to choose, let's go with this option. it does somewhat help her. it keeps him close to his base. he is not affirming some things that he called problematic in the past. ultimately will that help him become victorious before the
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give us an overview of why president obama is spending so much time on his trip in vietnam on the trip to asia? >> reporter: this is a moment where it's time has come. we have seen other presidents travel here. president clinton normalized relations with vietnam years ago. but president obama is trying to strengthen that relationship. this is still a communist country with a sketchy human rights effort. that is putting it lightly. this is sort of the time to extend the relationships since the vietnamese are willing to do that. this is a valuable ally here with a booming middle class. lots of opportunities for trade and strengthening this relationship for the u.s. is one more way to counter china's
relationship. >> strengthening vietnam's relationship is hurting our relationship with china in the process. >> reporter: i mean, you could say that in a sense. just to show you how tricky this is. we know that the u.s. increasing its influence and building ties with allies is a way to counter china's influence both in trade and security, but china has a close relationship and longstanding traditional relationship with vietnam. that said, china and vietnam have been in the intense dispute over islands in the south china sea. the u.s. says china fails to follow international rules. it is this web of relationships that have strong points and have tensions and on the lifting of the arms embargo today, something that would have been unheard of decades ago, china
released a happy statement. the arms embargo was a product of the cold war and shouldn't have existed. china welcomes the strengthening of ties and normalizing relations. >> thank you, michelle kosinski. time for an early start on your future. stocks in asia and europe are mixed. hedge funds are dumping apple and buying facebook. apple was the most sold stock in the first quarter. according to two reports. the selling was led by billionaire carl icahn. other investors ditched the stock after the first ever drop in iphone sales. shares of apple hit a 52-week low in may. they rebounded 7% since then. apple regained the title of the world's most valuable company in
the process. the new favorite stock is facebook. it is up 12% this year. a few dollars away from the all-time high. the top 50 hedge funds bought 3 million shares in the first quarter. >> changes every night. time to take a look at what is coming up on "new day." alisyn camerota joins us live. >> good morning. great to see you. good morning. bernie sanders stepping up attacks on hillary clinton and the democratic party. he calls clinton quote the lesser of two evils compared to donald trump. he is backing the opponent of dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz. a new poll shows clinton and donald trump extremely tight. tighter than predicted weeks ago. and the suspected vp pick. trump is meeting today with tennessee senator bob corker.
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welcome back. the push to retake fallujah from isis is under way in iraq. the country's prime minister announcing the start of the military operation in televised late night address. fallujah has been under isis control for more than two years. the battle to liberate that city is expected to be long and bloody. cnn's jomana karadsheh is following it all in amman, jordan. jomana, we are talking about an operation of shi'a forces storming into a sunni city. explain how this is more
complicated. >> reporter: george, that is one of the major issues when it comes to the operation. liberating fallujah would be considered a great victory for the iraqi forces when that happens. as you mentioned, no one expecting this to be anything but a long and bloody battle. the concerns here is as you mentioned. the forces going into fallujah that is a pretty dominant sunni city and the iraqi security forces are an issue with the iranian back the shi'a militias taking part in the battle. they have been accused of reprisal attacks when they have gone into other sunni cities. they see the population of the cities sympathetic to isis. they have been accused of human rights issues. this is a major concern. it could enflame sectarian issues. another issue is the civilian
population in fallujah. estimates of tens of thousands of civilians in there. the iraqi government and military in the past 24 hours asking people to leave. they created safe passage for civilians to leave the city. it is not as simple as packing up and leaving. we heard from organizations from human rights watch in recent weeks people who tried to leave have been executed by isis. a very difficult situation for a population that has endured more than two years under isis control. george. >> if they can't leave, officials telling them to raise a white flag as this battle rages on. jomana karadsheh, thank you for the reporting. let's get an early start on your money. we are seeing dow in the green right now. we have been watching the futures bounce around this morning. friday's close made it four straight weeks of losses for the dow. as investors priced in a potential interest rate hike from the fed next month. stocks in europe and asia are
mixed. oil prices down 1%. are you taking a road trip this weekend? a good chance you will hit traffic. aaa predicts 38 million drivers will be hitting the roads this memorial day weekend. that is the highest tally since 2005 and the second largest on record. one factor fueling the increase. low gas prices. national average for a gallon of regular hitting $2.28 overnight. that's close to the highest levels of year, it is 46 cents lower than what drivers were paying this time last year. it is the cheapest memorial day gas prices in 11 years. aaa says americans have saved $15 billion in gas money this year because of the lower gas prices. i hope the lower gas prices stick around. let's hope so. "new day" starts now. we need a serious discussion about the role of super delegates. >> we have a process eminently
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replace the party's chair, debbie wasserman schultz and calling hillary clinton the lesser of two evils when it comes to donald trump. and two new national polls. trump and clinton, they are locked in a dead heat. get this -- a majority of americans say they would consider a third party candidate. meanwhile, speculation is building this morning about who's on the short list to become trump's vp pick. we have the 2016 race covered the way only cnn can. let's begin with senior washington correspondent joe johns live in washington. good morning, joe. >> reporter: good morning, chris. it's a sign of the bitterness in the race when one of the two top candidates running for a major party's nomination suggests that if elected, he would get rid of the leader of the party, though ho be sure, the feud between the sanders campaign and the dnc has been going on for a while now. while the sanders campaign and the sound bite over theop