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golden state. all of this ahead of a big primary on june 7th. here's a look at what you can expect. at any minute, expected to hear from hillary clinton and this is a live picture now from her event in oakland, california. we are going to be bringing you her comments once she takes the stage. that's coming in the next hour. and then also, look at the clock. donald trump will hold the first of two rallies today. also making his big west coast push, bernie sanders. he's set to address voters about 2:00 this afternoon. topping off the day is mr. trump with this rally at 5:00 p.m. san diego. you've got a full calendar for tv watching today. the presumptive gop nominee showing no signs of letting up. even after a milestone day when he did clinch the big one. 1,237 delegates. it's official. that's the guy. as if you didn't already know it
though. cnn's dan simon live and looking behind you, i can see the protesters have started amassing. but what is that community expecting and how are they prepared to deal with it? >> reporter: well, hi, ashleigh. we are in front where donald trump will be holding his event in about an hour from now. the protesters, about dozens at this point, not hundreds. the crowds are smaller than what we've seen in other cities. the fact that this is a daytime event is giving hope to the fresno police department that we won't see violence. we did see some break out in the middle of the afternoon a couple of days ago in anaheim but this is how the chief talked about the preparations that are being made. take a look. >> we have police officers that are fully equipped. if they need to come in and address the crowd should things get violent, they have the ability to move crowds and we
also have the ability to deploy ki chemical agents should we need to. we don't anticipate it but we plan for it in case the crowd gets unruly. at the onset, when we see any kind of behavior inciting a riot, we remove those individuals and we will. we're not going to tolerate violence in our city. >> reporter: so the fresno police department says they are fully prepared for any eventuali eventuality, ashleigh. in terms of the people here, we should point out that fresno has a big migrant population from mexico given the focus on the agriculture industry in the community. so naturally, you are seeing people who are protesting donald trump's immigration proposals. ashleigh? >> i do not like to hear chemical agents but i think i understand what he means and let's hope for the best it doesn't get to that point. dan simon, thank you for that in fresno. i want to break it down. a radio commentator and donald
trump supporter and sally cohen is a bernie sanders supporter and david gergen. the senior in politics, i will ask you this question, david. it's becoming evident and "washington post" reporting on it as well. focusing on a 15 state pathway to the electoral college win and we've heard of these pathways before. virginia in there. michigan in there. understand that they're a battleground but california and new york are among that list. and i want to ask you who has been through many an election if that is a republican strategy that can work. >> first, ashleigh. let me ask you a question. there is a picture of you on twitter that suggests you in your '80s punk rock glory.
can all of us? >> it's blank. that's a good thing. it does show you. there he goes again. i am old and i've been through a bunch of elections and i know the republicans usually look at california and new york and say you're not going to get those ones. spend your money and time to get the ones you can get and then the ones you're not so sure you can get. what about that strategy? i need to hear it from you who knows politics more than anyone. >> i think that states like michigan and pennsylvania, needs to go after those and may well have a shot. i think he could have a shot in new york given that's his home base. i think it's doubtful, but, you know, he was thinking of running for governor of new york. so he's taking a look at that. california is the one that shocks. that seems so far beyond the capacity to win that. they look like they have the
senate race. california was once a purple state. but from bill clinton on, bill clinton basically lived out there for a lot of his presidency and brought it around. it's been a solid blue state for a long time. it's hard to see how a republican like trump can win there. >> i want to move on to the e-mail issue because that is going to be a struggle, an uphill battle throughout the next several months, i think, for hillary clinton. if we know donald trump's m.o. and she had to address this yesterday. i want you to hear what she said in a cnn interview about that very topic. have a look. >> well, i thought it was allowed. i knew past secretaries of state used personal e-mail. secretary kerry did for a period of time until the rules were clarified. they were not a model of clarity and it seems like there's still more work to do on that. so, yes, i believed it was allowed. but that's not the point. i said it was a mistake.
>> important word that she made. i believed it was allowed. now we come to know there were actually standards and practices and policies put into place that said it wasn't necessarily allowed in the manner she says. sally, this is going to be an off repeated refrain and followed it up by calling unqualified and a loose cannon i believe an off-repeated refrain. which one is more possibwerful? >> look, for the vast majority of voters, look, for people who have made up their mind, this is nothing new. people who have reason not to like hillary use the e-mail as their sort of tangible thing to attach their feelings to and people who support it. the issue is the people on the fence and in all honesty, she made a mistake. it was stupid. it wasn't transparent. it was all of those things. compare that to someone who knows absolutely nothing about foreign policy, said he wants to
bankrupt this country, wants to round up and detain and deport 11 million people and ban 30% of the world's population from participating in our country and economy, this is kind of an easy choice when push comes to shove and while the far right is making hay and will continue to make hay about this, the report made clear is she didn't do anything illegal. former secretaries of state had done it, colin powell, not investigated and still continues to be much do about nothing compared to the real issues facing this country we need a president who knows what they're doing. >> i still want to get to those issues and seems like we're talking all the ancillary things in the race. scottie, i'm going to go to the rubio story with you, if i can. marco rubio sat down with our jake tapper and he gave some comments which we, i think, a lot of people might find surprising, and i'm only going to set it up this way.
the stuff he was saying before he had the sit-down with jake tapper. in the last few months, he called this a complete fiasco and carnival, what donald trump made the primary process. he said he'd be selling watches in manhattan if he hadn't inherited $200 million, called him a con artist, donald trump, and the most vulgar person to aspire to the presidency. and now here comes the interview with jake tapper, take a look. >> my sense is i'm going to go to the convention. >> you are? >> and i don't know if i'll have a role in the convention, but i have a lot of people going there supporters. >> if donald trump asked you to speak on your behalf, would you do so? >> yeah, i want to be helpful. i don't want hillary clinton to be president. >> are you planning to release your delegates? >> technically, have already because donald is going to have the majority number and it will be relevant. if we haven't done so already, we will. >> i should also mention that donald trump followed that up with a tweet about marco rubio.
says, poll data shows @marco rubio does the best and important to keep the majority. run, marco? is this a cold piece being forged and increasingly more are forging peace who had been the least likely candidates to forge a peace and does that kind of peace work? a cold peace or do you need a warm embrace to make the republican party move? >> i think it does work. i think it was very classy what senator rubio did and showed he put the party over his own ego. we know this is a very bloody primary and the words said back and forth amongst all the candidates, but especially between mr. trump and each of the different ones definitely were some major daggers. but in the end, we realized just like marco rubiopoi points out,m going to do everything i can to keep hillary clinton out of office because the mistake she had make, they're not just small
mistakes. they're absolute things that endanger our entire country and national security and she's done that in the past and shows what her track record will be for the future. most republicans realize this, embrace this, see through the spin of a lot of her pundits and say, no, she has a very dangerous person who made mistakes on purpose and thinks she's above the law. that's why i think marco rubio was doing this. >> i was watching primetime television last night and i saw a lot of treatment of donald trump's comments at a news conference when he once again referred to elizabeth warren as pocahontas but this time, a reporter said, isn't that racist? and another reporter who happens to be native american did yell out, that is offensive, and a commentator said if a ceo said that, he'd be fired. if anyone in an office said that, they might be fired.
if a school principal saw that happening, somebody might be suspended. i just wonder if that kind of language is funny or appropriate in donald trump's book. >> well, what's interesting is what is offensive is someone who claims to be native american in order so she can get a gig at harvard. she lied. >> the name calling okay? >> well, when he's calling out the fact she sat there and pretended she was native american to gain a minority position. >> we don't know yet. >> it's been proven time and time again she actually lied and said that. >> say something like that and i will add this. a commentator last night on cnn brought up another issue that the word pocahontas when you're calling someone that name is no
different than an african-american aunt je mmima. what's the bounds in terms of getting back at somebody? >> for the fact she's the one that lied about her position in the first place. she's the one who said she was the one of indian descent for some reason, nobody's called her on that in this whole thing and then goes against mr. trump. only based on what she called herself. >> quick comment. >> she called herself. >> this is someone running to be the president of the united states of america, the leader of the free world. >> she lied. she lied. >> whose job would be among other, many important jobs, to have relationships, trusted, respectful relationships with the native american community in this country, by the way, we don't exactly have the prettiest history with. it's one thing for him. this is donald trump, the bar is
continually lower but insulting names? the larger issue is, how do we have someone when someone attacks them substantively on the substance of his policies for working class people, for the housing market, for the economy, his response is insulting base, guttersniping personal attacks. that's not okay. >> low on time, but i want to get david gergen to button that up and give me a sense of, is this becoming a normalization that this is going to continue happening and accept the name calling is okay because it's perceived as being, it's a are reaction to something else? >> there's an old phrase about defining deviancy down.
i think it's offensive. i don't think it's a big, big deal. the e-mail controversy is much to do about nothing but this is much to do about very little. he ought to get off it, of course. it does give offense to some people but i don't think we should say, oh my god, i don't think a child would be suspended from school using that phrase, for example. but overall, elizabeth warren is a major figure and a major force in this race. it was all bernie sanders versus hillary and not elizabeth warren. i think she can help hillary's campaign but a growing possibility she could be on the ticket with hillary. we'll wait and see. >> david gergen, thank you. thank you guys. enjoy your long weekend if you're so lucky to have monday off. and if you don't, i'll see you here on monday.
thanks guys, appreciate it. we'll continue watching what's going on outside of the donald trump rally in fresno, california, these are the protesters that have shown up. we heard dan simon report they were in the dozens but may be growing and police put a presence out and try their best to keep things, keep a lid on things and inside, you can see the warm-up acts have begun. this would come to give speeches before donald trump. the fresno crowd already going so we are minutes away from donald trump as well. stay here. we are back live, donald trump's live 1:00-ish. fluid. back in a moment.
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national institutes of health. thank you for being with me. the first question, what do we do about this? she's one person but she's not going to be the last. >> no, that's true. and in one of the issues that needs to be addressed is what we ca called good infection control. make sure the e. coli that has this gene in resistant to the last resort drug does not spread around. we have known about this type of bacteria and this type of resistant gene for some time now. it's been presented in china, canada, in certain countries, food, and people, but first time we've seen it here. we've got to keep our antennas us. the fact it's in one person means almost certainly, we're
going to see it again. >> and i guess the concern for someone watching is if i get it, and i can't get any antibiotics to treat it, what happens to me? i mean, what effectively is the course of action for the people who contract this? >> well, first of all, you've got to understand what particular type of infection you get. some people can have this microbe in them and not even get ill but if you have a serious infection, an infection related to a surgical procedure and infection related to a complication, for example, with chemotherapy and wind up with this particular microbe that has this resistant gene, then you have a serious problem because you've essentially run out of antibiotics and that's one of the reasons to control it but also have an aggressive effort to develop alternative antibiotics that can be used against this particular strain which is a major effort that's undergoing right now to be able
to do that. >> and that's my next question. why are we in the process? are we close to finding, you know, solutions to these super bugs? will we find something to combat this particular one? >> i think we will, but we need to move quickly and put a concerted effort. over the last couple of years, there has been an effort to attack antibiotic resistance that has been essentially from the white house down, the president had an executive order and we've had an action plan now to put a considerable amount of effort into one controlling antibiotic resistance and developing new drugs to take the place of the drugs no longer useful. we've seen an up surge in effort over the last couple of years in that direction. >> i hope there is a great success and that it's sooner rather than later. thank you for being with us. i appreciate it. >> good to be with you. coming up next, president obama did today what no other
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kind of town hall dineresque and she'll be speaking throughout the day as well. we'll tap in as soon as we can hear something from the secretary. in the meantime, i want to take you to something that's making a lot of headlines for the images and for the moments that are being created. more than 70 years ago, the united states became the first and only country to use nuclear weapons in warfare. when it dropped an atomic bomb on the japanese city of hiroshima during world war ii. 140,000 people were killed and much of hiroshima was reduced to what you're seeing, rubble. nagasaki was the next city to be hit. today, president obama became the first sitting u.s. president to visit hiroshima. he did not apologize for the bombing but laid the wreath and looked toward a world without nuclear weapons.
>> 71 years ago, on a bright cloudless morning, death fell from the sky and the world was changed. and demonstrated that mankind possessed the means to destroy itself. why do we come to this place? to hiroshima? we come to ponder a terrible force unleashed in a not so distant past. we come to mourn the dead. their souls speak to us. they ask us to look inward, to take stock of who we are, and what we might become. technological progress without an equivalent progress in human
institutions can doom us. we may not be able to eliminateeliminate man's capacity to evil. so the nations and alliances we formed must possess the mieans o defend ourselves but among those nations like my own that hold nuclear stockpiles, we must have the courage to escape the logic of fear. and pursue a world without them. the memory of the morning of august 6th, 1945, was never failed. that memory allows us to fight complacency. it fuels our moral imagination. it allows us to change. but we have a shared responsibility to look directly into the eye of history and ask what we must do differently to
curb such suffering again. >> for more, presidential historian. we must look directly into the eyes of history, which i think we are all doing today by watching this sort of monumentous occasion. doug, my question is why president obama and why now? it's been 71 years. >> well, president obama is a great interest in asia. he grew up part of his life in indonesia. he's going to spent part of his expostpresidency in hawaii with issues but the japanese relations is extremely important. just a few weeks ago, donald trump was talking about giving nuclear weapons to japan and here you have barack obama going to the sacred site of world war ii and making it clear it's an extremely important speech particularly in the context of
u.s. japanese relations. ronald reagan, we have to remember, also wanted to somebo talk about ridding the world of nuclear weapons. it doesn't mean the cause and effect they disappear but a poignant day in american history today and i think the president's speech was very eloquently written. >> one of the people in the crowd, as the president was speaki speaking. he would have been 8 when the bomb fell. he was a survivor and this moment followed between the two. you could hear the photographers shutter going off on that. so i mean, there's more to this picture than just what i've said. he spent decades trying to get official recognition for 12 p.o.w.s who actually died so he clearly is the contrition.
remarkable. but at the same time, the president did not deliver an apology. we all wondered if that was going to happen. does that matter? if there is a left behind? >> it would have been wrong to apologize to get into rethinking harry truman's decision to have gone to japan and done that. i thought he did it with a lot of grace notes, talking about the future. it's very meaningful in japan what the president did. it was a large healing gesture without revisiting whether the bombs should have been dropped on hiroshima and i thought he did it the right way. once you leave government, george schultz, former secretary of state, spending his life out trying to rid the world of nuclear weapons. many states people do it and you see barack obama join their ranks but don't think it would have been appropriate to go to
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is hillary clinton as part of what's been called the community discussion in oakland as she campaigns to try to clinch the nomination for the democratic party in june and she's taking questions from people. let's listen in. >> we're taking them on field trips. 35 and 40 a year. people are trained to teach and deliver programs during the summer. entirely new so they have learned how to design curriculum and how to teach classes and the college program facilitates 86% completion rate. >> that's great. >> one of the things that's the p pain of our prosperity are things like the student loan debt because so many of ours can't make that money, can't make that commitment, want to go to a four year institution. some go to the junior college which is exceptional. we just want them to finish. in terms of the development
opportunities that are coming, we're located not too far away from the open airport. that pain of that prosperity is what happens in the small businesses. you said you were an opener and one thing about oakland is our art, our small businesses. and so many of them unfortunately will be displaced, so we're looking for support from hud, for work opportunity support, for education. we talk a little bit about why these kids are so angry. it's called complex ptsd. our children never leave their battlefield. and while oakland is getting safer by the minute, there are still some that are being left behind. we had extraordinary parenting engagement. we talk about the washer and dryer component.
we are bringing parents in to learn how to get alongside their kids and do martial arts and yoga, relax in some of our trauma filled cycles and parents tell me, we have to move. we can't afford to stay here. that's similar with the non-profit life. so many have their rents doubled and tripled because of our prosperity. i say to you that we were started by the clorox company 40 years ago. our tremendous partnerships with business and foundation and schools are exceedingly helpful. even our mba champs, the lawyers found out how to figure how to support if people in ways and needs. if elected, we're really hoping you'll be able to see the
greatness in oakland, particularly through a child's mind which i know you'll connect through and help them see their future. >> regina, the kind of community center services that you provide are the ones that, based on my experience and everything that i've read, are more likely to work and to survive. and because they are, in effect, multidisciplinary and because you are creating opportunities for young people to assume leadership and educational work, so it really does set a good example. but look, we have a big problem in affordable housing. and in keeping neighborhood character and opportunities for people living in oakland over years. no city really has yet figured out how to do that.
there's advantages, of course, to fixing up neighborhoods and making them attractive and all the rest of it. but i think it's a big price to pay if we displaced everybody who has been there and who has gone through the bad times and deserve to be part of the good times. and i don't know. i will turn to the mayor and the county supervisor. this is becoming a problem in our cities. because our cities are great magnets for people to move in. young people, obviously, and older people who are downsizing and want to be in the city instead of out in the suburb and see moves on that. so they are driving the market up. how do we enough affordable housing? how do we help to support the existing neighborhoods? because you could do all this work and the people you're actually helping and working
with won't be in oakland in ten years. they won't be able to afford to be in oakland. and so what are we doing about that, mayor? >> this is mine right here. >> this is a different campaign style than you see from donald trump, without question. we're used to seeing huge ra rallies and stop-by, shaking hands but not many people and they get as much time to talk as the secretary gets to talk as well but a lot of listening going on inside the restaurant as well. so that's california. and make no mistake, trump is in california as well. so is bernie sanders. a lot of political activity going on in that very hot state because june 7th is just around the corner. primary day. lots of delegates there. you know what else is around the corner? for some people, maybe 16 minutes away. a big weekend and it's a big travel weekend. the memorial day travel rush has begun. this.
this summer may break records for the number of americans by air, by rail, and by road. that's the same time federal agencies under increasing pressure to make things safer for us travelers without lowering our actual security. cnn's rene marsh just a few minutes ago had a chance to speak with the administrator of the tsa. so what's he saying? >> well, ashleigh, first off, he said he's seeing results from all of the changes he's made so far. he says that he's seen wait times reduced. however, he is warning that there's still going to be lines at some of the major airports but i do know that over the years, and over the months, last few months, we've heard tsa say they need more screeners to meet the need. well, today, i asked exactly how many screeners does tsa need?
do they know and have they identified that number? here's what he had to say. >> well, think i am still getting the exact number. as these resources come in, it's getting us a good feel for how effective we have become. we're focusing these, as you know, on the top 20 airports. i hesitate to put an exact number because i try to work out the final staffing models. we have redone our entire staffing model. >> ashleigh, he still cannot say how many officers tsa would need in order to efficiently do its job at the nation's airports. he was asked this at congress when he was on capitol hill for that hearing this weekend. he was unable to answer then. and many of his critics say he's been on the job for a year and that might be part of the problem he's unable to identify how many officers he actually
needs. i did push him a bit on this and he says that he wants to see how the current staffing levels are working now before he puts that exact number out there. ashleigh? >> and all of your work. coming right during the time that you're doing this extraordinary series which is so timely, so thank you for that great series about deteriorating infrastructure across the country. yesterday, i had you here. you were talking about the crumbling bridges, the ones we're driving over and today, you're digging deeper into the dire shape of the rail system. let's have a look at what you found. >> deep inside the 106-year-old hudson river tunnel connecting new york and new jersey, the concrete is cracked and crumbling and after super storm sandy flooded the tunnel, the situation became urgent. >> the salt isoncrete, the rail cables for power. >> joe calls it one of the most
glaring examples of aging railroad infrastructure in the united states. >> this is the busiest in the western hemisphere. we got here because we didn't maintain our infrastructure. >> every day, about 230,000 riders pass through it. the tunnel has been plagued by power failures. the power cables are 80 years old causing shutdowns and massive delays for days. the repair backlog for 450 miles from boston to washington, dc alone is $20 billion. aging infrastructure has contributed to deadly derailments. >> notify amtrak to shut down the entire northeast corner. >> in may 2015, amtrak traveling more than two times the 50-mile-per-hour speed limit jumped the tracks in philadelphia. eight people were killed and more than 200 injured. thousands of miles of railway lack technology caused positive
train control that can automatically slow speeding trains. why has the industry as a whole taken so long to put the technology in place? >> it takes time to make sure that works right. >> 30 freight and passenger and 1200 injuries could have been prevented had that technology been in place. but it's not just safety. it's speed. in japan, bullet trains are capable of going almost 200 miles per hour. that speed would cut a six-hour amtrak ride down to 2.5. fastest train in the u.s. can go 150 miles per hour but usually travels at half that. >> we can have that kind of service along the corridor, talking $151 billion. >> you want to be able to show the benefit of the dollar you invested. >> anthony fox heads the department of transportation. >> i think members of congress struggle because they actually require longer than a political
term to take route. >> for the busiest track, speed takes the backseat to the urgent need to stop the crumbling. >> urgent indeed. to the tune of billions. what about the money? the money that is critical, the money that doesn't seem to be flowing. how is that going to change? >> well, i will say this. amtrak has done frequent inspections of the track that you saw and the tunnel you saw to make sure they maintain safety but the bottom line is they rely heavy on the federal government for funds. it gets about $1.6 billion per year. but you heard the backlog is over $20 billion. so what it's getting from the federal government is simply not enough. compare that $1.6 billion that amtrak got from the federal government to china's government. in comparison, china spent $128 billion last year on its rail
infrastructure. you know, i spoke to a lot of people within the industry and what i've heard over and over again is that infrastructure is long term gratification and many people in the industry believe that politicians who are up for reelection, they need short-term gratification and so, you know, many times funding this sort of thing is not necessarily a priority. >> frustrating. especially when you look at the $150 billion price tag for the sweeter gizmos. right off the map. rene, great stuff. thank you for that. and that's not the last of it either. i'll do the plug for you here because rene's series is continuing. you can go to cnnpolitics.com and catch her work and next piece on, you guessed it, airports. tonight on erin burnett outfront 7:00 eastern time. rene does fantastic exhaustive work. in just a few moments, donald trump expected to speak live in fresno, california. one day after he clinched that
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8:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. here. up first, california dreaming. all three remaining presidential candidates. they're campaigning in the state today. donald trump is holding a rally in fresno this hour a day after clinching the republican presidential nomination. we'll have a live report outside of the trump rally in just a minute. hillary clinton is out o