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>> ladies and gentlemen, the wreath ceremony is complete. the memorial day service will begin shortly. >> and as the president now makes his way to the am pi theater, he's going to give his remarks just on the other side of the tomb of the unknowns. it's important to remember this is the 148th national memorial day observance at arlington cemetery and it is president obama's last. it is the last wreath that he will play at the tomb of the
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unknowns. it is the last memorial day address that he will give in the amphitheater. ash carter will also give remarks. the chairman of the joint chiefs will also be speaking and much of the party will make their way after a short musical interlude to the image that you're seeing on the right. guests have already amassed on the other side of the tomb of the unknowns. that's going to be coming to you in just a few moments. it is more than likely as the president entered arlington national cemetery and made his way throughout the thousands and thousands of tombstones that are in that cemetery, he may have passed by area 60, and if you have visited, you will know that area 60 is populated by those who have died in afghanistan and in iraq. they are our most recent fallen heroes. that's where barbara starr is standing by live right now. and, barbara, it's always -- i'm awe struck when we do these live interviews with you every year to see how many more tombstones
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are behind you because when you started doing these live shots, this was a very empty area. >> reporter: good morning, ashleigh. it was. this was really basically an empty green meadow, and over the years it has filled as families have laid their loved ones to rest here. this is really the history of the last 15 years of war for american troops and for american military families. you see it all basically written here. the battles that have come back into our headlines, fallujah, ramadi, baghdad in iraq. the koran, kandahar, kabul in afghanistan. we see the families repeatedly come back here year after year to visit their loved ones. you will see there's a 90-year-old grandmother here. there are small toddlers here. these are people who pause, as so many americans do, across this country to pay their
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respects. we see battle buddies coming here to visit their friend who didn't make it all the way home. it is quite an awe struck sight every year that we see. people sort of refer to section 60 as the saddest acre in america. i got to tell you, i don't see it that way. on a day like today what i see is an acre that is full of probably the most solid love that you are going to find. these are people who are coming to pay their respects, to pay their love to america's fallen. ashleigh? >> are a bra stbarbara starr, i poignant to see the families behind you there as well, little children, husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers. barbara is going to continue to do the coverage today on this memorial day from section 60 where she is regularly bringing us updates every year. i also want to bring in our
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global affairs analyst kimberly dozier. you probably see her regularly commenting on cnn, but this marks ten years since kimberly herself was wounded in a car bomb attack while covering u.s. troops on patrol in baghdad for cbs news. kimberly, thanks for being with us and also with us is cnn military analyst major general james "spider" marks, who was the senior intelligence officer for the coalition landing forces during operation iraqi freedom. and i wanted to just get some perspective on what we're seeing today. this is the president's final wreath laying at arlington on memorial day, and, honestly, kimberly, he started his presidency saying he wanted to end the wars and we are still in some physicifashion in these wa. this is a tricky line to walk especially with us all being in political season at this time. >> it is and there's some frustration among military rank that is the obama administration didn't do more to either stay in
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iraq or afghanistan to head off some of what we're seeing on the ground now in iraq and syria, but i was to attend this ceremony last year where president obama is about to speak, and what struck me is that on this day all of that frustration gets put aside. there is respect for his office and his respect for their service. you could argue that one of the reasons that he wanted to pull those troops out and that he has been so reluctant to send more into the syrian conflict against isis is that he takes every one of those combat deaths to heart. >> four of those combat deaths occurring while you were on the road and were injured as well. spider, if you could weigh in on the notion that just today the news is breaking as we honor our fallen heroes that fallujah is on target and that towns all around it in iraq are falling, and there are americans who are close to the front lines in
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several reports. working with artillery, in fact. we still have active members in war zones, and afghanistan, two more car bombs today as well. it is unlikely that we will be out of these wars anytime soon. >> ashleigh, you're exactly correct. you know, very sadly it's been recorded in history that only the dead have seen the end of warfare, and, in fact, what we're seeing is our nation's commitment to ensure that it can do the right thing alongside a partner. the partner being iraq. and clearly as kimberly has laid out, we have had our issues over the years in terms of the prosecution of this conflict. there have been some differences between leaders both on the civilian side and on the military side, but one thing remains permanent, and that is the focus of our nation to do the right thing and that sacrifices will be made. you know, the soldiers' first duty is to remember, and on a day like today it is a duty that
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we all recognize. we do remember on memorial day. >> and every town across america has some kind of remembrance whether it's a parade or whether it's just some solemn remembrance. i want to take us right now if i can from arlington national cemetery where we will return in minutes to chappaqua in new york. there is an annual memorial day parade there as well, and our miguel marquez is walking in this one because former secretary of state hillary clinton, now candidate for the democratic nomination, is also we're told going to be marching in this parade as well with her husband, bill clinton, and i'm just -- yeah, you can see them there. miguel, are you somewhere close to them? >> reporter: we are very close to them. i can hear the bagpipes and i can see the clintons. here they come right by us right now with several other luminaries and politicians. there's the governor of new york, and there is mr. clinton. mr. clinton, can we speak to you?
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the full contingent here in chappaqua, new york, their adopted hometown. hillary clinton just next to her husband. her husband closest to us. and all the luminaries of the states coming out on this memorial day. they do this every year. they are well liked here in chappaqua in westchester county county. in the primary here she won over senator sanders 62% to 32%. it wouldn't be memorial day without the bagpipes which are coming now. ♪ >> miguel, i'm going to leave you there for a moment as you cover the former secretary of state, the former president of the united states, hillary and bill clinton in chappaqua, their new york home.
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i will take us back to arlington theater. this is the amphitheater. "hail to the chief" being played as the president getting are -- ready to address those. >> ladies and gentlemen, chaplain studnewski. >> i invite you to pray with me. almighty and ever living god, by your mercy the faithful departed find rest. we pray you look kindly on the servants we remember today who died in service to their country. these were sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, parents and patriots all who lived in this world for too short a time
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yet made it a better world by their sacrifice. they longed, as we all long, for a world of true justice and perpetual peace, and they spent themselves in service to bring about that world as they understood it. they loved, and they were loved, and they are loved. we may not know the name of every soul who lay at rest here or on more distant fields, but you know every name, lord, for every soul is precious to you. as we gather here and in places all across this land and wherever our honored dead lie, we fulfill our pledge never to forget their sacrifice but even more we gather in hope, hope in your promises that those who lay down their lives for another,
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who nobly serve the cause of right, who carry their burdens faithfully, not for hope of reward but for fulfillment of duty will receive their reward. bless these beloved dead, lord, with the peace only you can give. a piece that is sweet, a peace that is restful, a peace that is eternal. amen. >> amen. >> ladies and gentlemen, please join the united states army band and master sergeant michael ford in singing our national anthem. ♪ o say, can you see by the dawn's early light ♪ ♪ what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming? ♪
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♪ whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight ♪ ♪ o'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming? ♪ ♪ and the rockets' red glare the bombs bursting in air ♪ ♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ ♪ and the home of the brave? ♪ [ cheers and applause ]
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>> please be seated. ladies and gentlemen, general dunford. [ applause ] >> good morning. mr. president, secretary carter, distinguished guests, and most importantly to the gold star families who are here, it's an honor to be with you today on this hallowed ground. as we pause this morning and remember those who have made the ultimate sacrifice for the freedom and security of our great nation, thousands of men and women continue to serve on active duty around the world, many in harm's way. this morning while we remember and honor the fallen, i'd ask you to keep those still serving in your thoughts and prayers as well. today's generation of soldiers,
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sailors, airmen, marines, and coast guardsmen is proudly following in the footsteps of an unending line of american citizens who have answered the call to duty. since george washington cobbled together an army, over 40 million americans have served the colors to ensure the citizens of our nation could live their lives and raise their children in freedom and peace. some supported the birth of the revolution, more recently others have answered the call to confront terrorism. the story of the 40 million who have served is the story of our nation. along the way more than 1 million americans have given the last full measure. over 100,000 in world war i. over 400,000 in world war ii. almost 40,000 in korea. over 58,000 in vietnam. and over 5,000 have been killed in action since 9/11. these statistics are compelling, but they don't begin to capture the enormity of the sacrifice.
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for the loss of each individual brings untold anguish and grief. those statistics represent sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, good friends. those statistics represent children who grew up without their mothers and fathers. those statistics represent lives shattered, hopes and dreams never realized. today is a reminder of the real cost of freedom, the real cost of security, and that's the human cost. but i don't believe our focus today should be on how these men and women died. it's how they lived that's important. it's how they lived that makes us remember them. in life these individuals chose to be something bigger than themselves. they chose to accept hardship and great personal risk. they were people who truly embodied the most important values and traditions of our nation. if we truly want to honor the fallen from all of our conflicts, if we truly want to give meaning to their sacrifice, we'll do something in addition
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to marking their graves with flags and flowers. each of us will leave here today with the resolve to strengthen our commitment to our nation and the values for which it stands. if we walk away from today's ceremony reminded that the cause of freedom requires sacrifice, if we walk away with a renewed sense of commitment to our values, if we walk away reminded how important it is to defend those values, then i would offer that those that were taken from us prematurely will be able to look down and know that we truly remembered them. more importantly, those that were taken from us prematurely will be able to look down and know that their lives had meaning. on behalf of the joint chiefs of staff and the soldiers, sailors, air mep, marines, and coast guardsmen that we are privileged to lead, thank you for bringing meaning to the sacrifice of the missing and fallen. thank you for remembering. [ applause ]
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>> ladies and gentlemen, listen now as master sergeant michael ford of the united states army band performs the last full measure of devotion. ♪ in the long and honored history of america ♪ ♪ there are names that shine like beacons in the night ♪ ♪ the patriarchs whose vision gave us meaning ♪ ♪ who kept the lamp of freedom burning bright ♪ ♪ in the long and honored
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history of america ♪ ♪ there were those who paid the last and final price ♪ ♪ who were called upon by desperate circumstance to make the ultimate sacrifice ♪ ♪ the grateful nation bows its head in sorrow and in thanks for guaranteeing our tomorrow ♪ ♪ ♪ the last full measure of devotion ♪ ♪ that's what they gave to the cause ♪ ♪ the last full measure of
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devotion ♪ ♪ and though they cannot hear our applause ♪ ♪ we honor them forever and keep alive their story ♪ ♪ pay tribute to their lives and give them all the glory ♪ ♪ the last full measure of devotion ♪ ♪ beyond the call of duty were their deeds ♪ ♪ the last full measure of devotion ♪ ♪ they gave themselves to serve the greater need ♪ ♪ and for those who did survive ♪ ♪ and came back home alive ♪ they join the praise of comrades who were slain ♪ ♪ and highly resolve, most
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highly resolve ♪ ♪ that these dead shall not have died in vain ♪ ♪ the last full measure of devotion ♪ ♪ beyond the call of duty were their digs ♪ ♪ the last full measure of devotion they gave themselves to serve the greater need ♪ ♪ and for those who did survive and came back home alive ♪ ♪ they join the praise of comrades who are slain ♪ ♪ and highly resolve, most highly resolve ♪
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♪ that these dead shall not have died in vain ♪ [ applause ] >> ladies and gentlemen, secretary carter. [ applause ] >> mr. president, general
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dunford, warriors, veterans, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us this solemn remembrance today. in each of the more than 400,000 markers here at arlington, we find a dignified memorial to a life dedicated to the noblest of callings, to protect our people, uphold humankind's highest values, and make a better world for our children. they say that security is like oxygen, if you have it, you don't think about it. but if you don't have it, it's all you think about. the patriots remembered today across the country provided that security, and so today do the millions of service members, soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, coast guardsmen, active duty, guard, reserve, provide
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that security. they're part of a long heritage of patriots who fought in places like lexington and concord, gettysburg and midway, chosan and kasan and more recently fallujah and helmand. on memorial day we especially remember those who gave their lives in this noblest of callings and to our gold star families, you honor us with your presence. we know we lack the words to do justice to what you feel on this day. we can never fully know, but we do know what your sacrifice means to us, to this nation, to a world that still depends so much on american men and women in uniform to its security. for all, memorial day in america is a line across the times, a line that connects yesterday with today and tomorrow, that
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we're here today and that remembrances like this are under way across this shining land isn't lost on the kids who serve today. i hear this all the time. they know what it means, that it means that they too are doing the noblest of things, providing security so that americans can get up in the morning, dress their kids, kiss them off to school, go to work, dream their dreams, live lives that are full. they know it means that for all its variety, america is one in its support for them. and they know that not one of them, not one ever will be left behind. that every effort will be made to bring them home no matter how long it takes. they can see that too today on memorial day. the line comes to them. now, those who serve today do so
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in a world that has its challenges and foes for america, which our strength will counter and defeat. of that we can be certain. but it's also a world of bright opportunities that we'll grab hold of for them and their children. we can be certain of our strength, of our success, and of our hope because our troops today make up the finest fighting force the world has ever known. a force of this caliber demands great leaders, and there's no doubt that they have one in the commander in chief. i see firsthand how clearly he understands the challenges we face and the obligations we must meet to keep our nation safe and make a better world. above all, i witness the unending concern he has for our
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men and women in uniform and their families, their safety, their dignity, their welfare, and the boundless care with which he makes decisions that put them in harm's way. for this and for much more, i'm tremendously proud to serve as his secretary of defense. please welcome the 44th president of the united states, barack obama. [ applause ] >> thank you. good morning. >> good morning. >> secretary carter, general dunford, mr. hallonen, major general becker, members of our armed forces, veterans, and most
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of all our gold star families, i'm honored to be with you once again as we pay our respects as americans to those who gave their lives for us all. here at arlington the deafening sounds of combat was given way to the silence of these sacred hills. the chaos and confusion of battle has yielded to perfect, precise rows of peace. the americans who rest here and their families, the best of us, those from whom we asked everything. ask of us today only one thing in return, that we remember t m them. if you look closely at the white
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markers that grace these hills, one thing you'll notice is that so many of the years, dates of birth and dates of death, are so close together. they belong to young americans, those who never lived to be honored as veterans for their service. men who battled their own brothers in civil war, those who fought as a band of brothers and ocean away, and men and women who redefined heroism for a new generation. they are generals buried beside privates they led. americans known as dad or mom. some only known to god. as mr. hallonen, a marine who then watched over these grounds haas said, everyone here is
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someone's hero. those who rest beneath this silence not only here at arlington but at veterans cemeteries across our country and around the world and all who still remain missing, they didn't speak the loudest about their patriotism. they let their actions do that. whether they stood up in times of war, signed up in times of peace, or were called up by a draft board, they embodied the best of america. as commander in chief, i have no greater responsibility than leading our men and women in uniform. i have no more solemn obligation than sending them into harm's way. i think about this every time i approve an operation as president. every time as a husband and father that i assign a
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condolence letter. every time michelle and i sit at the bedside of a wounded warrior or grieve and hug members of a gold star family. less than 1% of our nation wears the uniform, and so few americans see this patriotism with their own eyes or know someone who exemplifies it, but every day there are american families who pray for the sound of a familiar voice when the phone rings or the sound of a loved one's letter or e-mail arriving. more than 1 million times in our history it didn't come, and instead a car pulled up to the house, and there was a knock on the front door, and the sound of "ta "taps" floated through a cemetery's trees. for us, the living, those of us
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who still have a voice, it is our responsibility, our obligation, to fill that silence with our love and our support and our gratitude and not just with words but with our actions. for truly remembering and truly honoring these fallen americans means being there for their parents and their spouses and their children like the boys and girls here today wearing red shirts and wearing photos of the fallen. your moms and dads would be so proud of you, and we are too. truly remembering means that after our fallen heroes gave everything to get their battle buddies home, we have to make sure our veterans get everything they have earned from good health care to a good job, and we have to do better. our work is never done. we have to be there not only when we need them but when they need us. 30 days before he would be laid
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to rest a short walk from here, president kennedy told us a nation reveals itself not only by the people it produces but by those it remembers. not everyone will serve. not everyone will visit this national sanctuary, but we remember our best in every corner of our country from which they came. we remember them by teaching our children at schools with fallen heroes names like dorrie miller elementary in san antonio. more being good neighbors in communities named after great generals like mcpherson, kansas. or when we walk down first sergeant bobby mendez way in brook lyn or drive across the hoov every d hoover dam on a bridge that bears pat tillman's name. we reveal ourselves in our words and deeds but also by the simple act of listening. my fellow americans, today and every day listen to the stories
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these gold star families and veterans have to tell. ask about who he or she was, why they volunteered. hear from those who loved them about what their smile looked like and their laugh sounded like and the dreams they had for their lives. since we gathered here one year ago, more than 20 brave americans have given their lives for the security of our people in afghanistan, and we pray for them all and for their families. in iraq in our fight against isil, three americans have given their lives in combat on our behalf, and today i ask you to remember their stories as well. charles keating iv, charlie or chuck or c-4 was born into a
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family of veterans, all american athletes and olympians, even a gold medalist. so naturally charlie and the love of his life brooke celebrated their anniversary on the fourth of july. she called him the huge goof ball everybody wanted to be friends with. the adventurer who surfed and spearfished and planned to sail around the world. between the twin towers fell, he was in high school and he decided to enlist. joined the s.e.a.l.s because he told his friends it was the hardest thing to do. he deployed to afghanistan and three times to iraq earning a bronze star for valor, and earlier this month while assisting local forces in iraq who had come under attack, he gave his life. a few days later one of his platoon mates sent charlie's parents a letter from iraq. please tell everyone chuck saved a lot of lives today, it said. he left us with that big
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signature smile on his handsome face as always. chuck was full of aloha but was also a ferocious warrior. so today we honor chief special warfare officer charles keating iv. louis cardin was the sixth of seven children, a californian with an infectious wit who always had a joke at the ready to help someone get through a tough time. when his siblings ran around the house as kids, his mom, pat, would yell after them watch that baby's safety margin. and today she realizes that what she was really doing was raising a marine. as a teenager he proudly signed up. he graduated high school on a friday, three days later on monday morning the marines came to pick him up. that was ten years ago. one morning this march a marine knocked on his mother's door again. on his fifth tour at a fire base
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in iraq, louis gave his life while protecting the marines under his command. putting others before himself was what louis did best. he chose to live in the barracks with his buddies even when he could have taken a house off base. he volunteered to babysit for friends who needed a date night. he just earned a promotion to mentor his fellow marines. when they brought louis women, hundreds of strangers lined freeway overpasses and the streets of southern california to salute him, and today we salute staff sergeant louis cardin. [ applause ] joshua wheeler's sister says he was exactly what was right about this world. he came from nothing and he really made something of
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himself. as a kid josh was the one who made sure his brother and four half sisters were dressed and fed and off to school. when there wasn't food in the cupboard, he grabbed his hunting rifle and came back with a deer for dinner. when his country needed him, he enlisted in the army at age 19. he deployed to iraq and afghanistan 14 times. earned 11 bronze stars, 4 for valor. last october as isil terrorists prepared to execute 70 hostages, josh and his fellow special ops went in and rescued them. every single one walked free. we were already dead, one of the hostages said, then god sent us a force from the sky. that force was the u.s. army
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including josh wheeler. josh was the doting dad who wrote notes to his kids in the stacks of books he read. flying home last summer to be with his wife, ashley, who was about to give birth, he scribbled one note in the novel he was reading just to tell his unborn son he was on his way. ashley wheeler is with us here today holding their 10-month-old son, david. [ applause ]
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ashley says josh's memory makes her think about how can she be a better citizen, and she hopes it's what other people think about too. today this husband and father rests here in arlington in section 60, and as americans we resolve to be better, better people, better citizens, because of master sergeant joshua wheeler. our nation reveals itself not only by the people it produces, but by those it remembers. we do so not just by hoisting a flag, but by lifting up our neighbors, not just by pausing in silence, but by practicing in our own lives the ideals of opportunity and liberty and equality that they fought for. we can serve others and contribute to the causes they believed in, and above all keep
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their stories alive so that one day when he grows up and thinks of his dad, an american like david wheeler can tell them as well the stories of the lives others gave for all of us. we are so proud of them. we are to grateful for their sacrifice. we are so thankful to those families of the fallen. may god bless our fallen and their families. may he bless all of you, and may he forever bless these united states of america. [ applause ] >> ladies and gentlemen, please remain standing for the playing
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of "taps" and the benediction. [ "taps" playing snsm [ [ "taps" playing ] ♪
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>> eternal rest grant unto our beloved dead, o lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. may they rest in peace. bless us all, lord, bless us all across this land we call america with strength, wisdom, and courage, and may the sacrifice of so many who have died in service to our country and our world inspire us who remain to a renewed commitment to our nation and to our patriotic duty. amen. >> amen. >> ladies and gentlemen, please remain in place until the president has departed and the colors are retired.
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>> and as we see some of the families obviously who have gathered at this 148th memorial at arlington national cemetery, it's hard not to feel the lump in your throat when you see a
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baby that young and a mom who is clearly there for a reason none of us wants to be. this is the moment the president will leave with the official party. the last time he will leave the amphitheater at arlington cemetery for in national memorial. i want to bring in spider marks again, general james "spider" marks and also kimberly dozier our cnn global affairs analyst. i took note that he said two times the quote by jfk who is buried just a short walk away from the picture we are seeing on our screen, a nation reveals itself not only by the people it produces but by the people to remembers. and, spider, america does this best every memorial day like clockwork with military precision, one of the best ways to remember our fallen heroes.
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>> ashleigh, it's quite phenomenal. there are a number of nations that have really stepped up to the call to try to make a difference and to improve the human condition as the secretary of defense indicated earlier. but i tell you, america has been so incredibly selfless in an amazing sacrifice that its made in such a short amount of time. we are still an experiment. this democracy is still something we are tinkering with. we are trying to make sure we get it right. so we play with it all the time, but it is one thing that we do exceptionally well, and that is to reach out to others to try to improve the human condition, and through the sacrifices of young men and women that we have seen and that we honor today, it is something that we can really move forward and to pass onto those who come behind us. we really must remember all of those sacrifices, and it really is an amazing day that the nation would step forward and do this. as you indicated, ashleigh, as a matter of routine. it's what we do. it's like breathing air.
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>> it's like breathing air. the comment from general -- from secretary -- defense secretary ashton carter saying -- i'm going to paraphrase him, that security is like oxygen. when you have it, you don't think of it, and when you don't, you think of nothing else. it's very poignant. kimberly, there is a statistic that may have passed quietly on may 6 and that is that this president, president obama, has been at war longer than any other united states president, and again, i'll repeat it, he came in wanting to end the wars. it is not quite that simple. there are actions today that we mentioned earlier that are fierce. and our fighters, our american fighters who are acting as advisors are actually within stone's throw of the front line. and i don't think i'm using hyperbole when i say that. >> that is something that is
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very much part of the planning process of u.s. commanders. i was just at a special operations conference last week where they don't waste time with the semantics of are they in combat or not. general tony thomas said, they're in combat, but they're skating on the edge of it. the way the rules go, they're not the first one through the door. but they're right next to somebody who's the first through the door and that is how josh wheeler, who the president mentioned, lost his life and others may. so that's making part of the comments all the more poignant when president obama saluted the people in the crowd who are wearing the red shirts. i wanted to bring up those are from who brings families of the fallen to washington, dc every year for a grief camp and i was able to represent cnn at a couple of their events this weekend. so you're in a crowd with people who have come to share their
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grief, cry with each other, and also the laughter and smiles of the good memories. those are the people who you've come to supposedly help them but they end up leaving a lasting mark on you. >> as far as lasting images go, i want to leave our audience with the images from arlington cemetery. thank you. kim, thank you. spider sent me a quick note saying there are generals next to privates as the president sent those words, you see those pictures. there is more true, if you ever get the opportunity to take a visit here, it is really spectacular. it is such an image. it is such a poignant visit to see those grave markers, all 400,000 of them. it's a remarkable thing and the words of jfk that the president cited couldn't be more true. we remember them. we'll take a short break. (vo) whatever your perfect temperature...
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already. this was something predicted by the prominent conservative bill crystal. he tweeted this out. just a heads up over this holiday weekend. there will be an independent candidate, an impressive one, with a strong team and a real chance. end quote. not to be outdone, donald trump, the presumptive republican nominee as he's known to do. hit the twitter. and cnn sarah murray in washington, dc and she has been following the twitters all day. >> donald trump responded in his preferred method as you know saying, if dummy bill kristol does get a spoiler to run as an independent, say good-bye to the supreme court? started the threat that if there is a third candidate, it could doom the republicans to lose and their possibility of naming a candidate to the supreme court, the next supreme court justice. it's worth adding at this point, committ we don't have a real indication
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of who this might be. and i've talked to a number of folks in the never trump movement and not sure what bill kristol is talking about but one thing is clear that there does seem to be a bit of an appetite among registered voters in the "wall street journal" nbc poll. 47% of registered voters say they would consider an independent candidate. >> that's a lot of people. >> sort of a sense of the dissatisfaction with the options right now but the other reality is, as you know, it's really hard to mount an independent bid at this stage in the game. you need to build a team, raise a lot of money, get on the ballot. so certainly an upward haul. >> and distinguish yourself from the libertarians who also feel a ballot. gary johnson is officially the libertarian. so we'll see who the independent is going to be. i'm excited. sarah murray, thank you. nice to see you. coming up, the parents of a
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4-year-old boy now dealing with the reality that a gorilla in an enclosure was shot because the boy fell in and was in danger. we've got all of the different angles on this and the sadness that so many are feeling that this 17-year-old animal had to be destroyed. that's next. you can worry about them. you can even choose a car for them. (mom) honey, are you ok? (child) i'm ok. (announcer vo) love. (mom) we're ok. (announcer vo) it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. welcome to "legal view." presidential candidates doing their part to remember those brave men and women who lost their lives for our country. presumptive gop nominee donald trump sending out this tweet. have a great memorial day and remember that we will soon make america great again. senator bernie sanders sent out this


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