tv New Day Sunday CNN June 5, 2016 5:00am-5:31am PDT
hillary clinton forcefully frames the commander in chief test. >> donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. >> reporter: but bernie sanders says not so fast, and vows to fight on, even after this week's time super tuesday. >> the nominating process is over, secretary clinton has won, that is factually incorrect. >> reporter: will the democratic divide help trump? >> if we get cynical and just vote our fears or if we don't vote at all, we won't build on the progress that we started. >> reporter: plus the trump slash and burn tour targets the media. >> the press should be ashamed of themselves. >> reporter: and the clintons. >> these are crooked people. we don't need another four years of clinton, believe me.
>> "inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thanks for sharing your sunday morning as we gear up for puerto rico's democratic vote today and then the big final tuesday of the presidential primary season. three questions to frame the states. will bernie sanders continue his push for the democratic nomination past tuesday even if if the delegate math makes clear hillary clinton is the voters' choice? >> and let california, one of the most progressive states in this country, show the world that california's going forward with the political revolution. >> can clinton do something donald trump couldn't do, knocking the billionaire businessman off balance and turning off voters against him? >> he is not just unprepared.
he is temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability, and immense responsibility. >> question three, are donald trump's repeated attacks on latinos not ohm a threat to his success but a lasting scar on the entire republican party? >> i have had horrible rulings. i've been treated very unfairly by this judge. this judge is of mexican her tanl. i'm building a building, okay? i'm building a wall. >> with us molly ball, jonathan martin, manu raju and jackie kusinich. in a moment, a speech making the case donald trump is unfit to be president and a threat to america's security if he's allowed to become commander in chief. >> you know, there's no risk of people losing their lives if you blow up a golf course deal. but it doesn't work like that in world affairs.
so the stakes in global state craft are infinitely higher and more complex than in the world of luxury hotels. >> first the urgency and the uncertainty of the giant 72 hours ahead. puerto ricos that a democratic primary today and six states vote tuesday in the last big night of the presidential plim mare season. hillary clinton will lay claim to the democratic nomination shortly after the first polls closed tuesday in new jersey. she needs just 63 delegates to reach the democratic magic number of 2,383. >> starting next tuesday, we're on our way to breaking the highest and hardest glass ceiling. >> but bernie sanders just won't accept that math, at least not yet. clinton crossed the finish line because of her giant advantage among democratic super delegates. they don't officially vote until the convention and as senator
sanders likes to say they are free to change their mind. we keep in touch with the super delegates and the majority tell us they have zero intention of switching from clinton to sanders. >> at the end of the nominating proce process, no candidate will have enough pledged delegates to call the campaign a victory. they will be dependent upon super delegates. in other words the democratic national convention will be a contested convention. >> now that is music to the ears of sanders' backers but if you're old enough to remember this it's what al gore might call fuzzy math. if you tossed out the super delegates clinton has a majority of the pledged delegates and will have a majority of the pledged delegates when the voting is over unless sanders somehow wins 70% of those remaining. molly ball the question is, what
does he want and does he understand, a lot of democrats are clinton supporters, let's be clear about that. lot of democrats think when he should be dialing it back to get his supporters ready for what they think is likely to happen he has his foot on the accelerator. >> i could see sort of two aspects of this. i was out in california, went to a bunch of bernie sanders' events last week. there's an aspect of his rhetoric overlooked. what he says is if we win california and all the other states that are voting on tuesday, then we will have momentum, then we will start to put the super delegates and then go into convention with a head of steam. he's leaving himself an out not only if he doesn't win california but literally all the states on the table. so it does seem like that's a scaling back. on the other hand he's got to keep his fsupporters typed up ad riled up. people don't feel he has to be quite so aggressive. he continues to attack her in sharp terms and there is a worry when and if she almost certainly
becomes the nominee that will do lasting damage and sanders supporters you talk to feel like they've been poisoned against her and even if bernie sanders endorsed her, they would not be willing to go along. >> the sanders supporters are that are a bigger worry to the clinton campaign. in the same speeches he says the democratic process is flawed, he thinks it's rigged and the super delegates never should have come out so early he says essentially over my dead body will i allow donald trump to be president of the united states. it's more about his supporters. >> that's the issue is are they going to show up for hillary. frankly are they going to put in the time they would have for bernie. lot of the folks comprise the bulk of the democratic party's activist wing, what do they do? if they don't work for her, who does work for her. it's not just their votes that count. you have to chalk this up into the things that they say, this is what we do when they're facing the understand of their
campaign, they have to keep their folks jazzed, you have to turn to slights but the fact is the race effectively is going to be over. >> almost an unsustainable argument for sanders if he's losing in pledged delegates to continue to the convention. his argument is that super delegates are wrong with the process, they're unfair but he has to say super delegates overturn the will of the voters, overturn the will of pledged delegates and make me the nominee. >> contradiction. >> it's something very difficult, interesting thing that happened yesterday elizabeth war rep. caren said s delegates should not sway the outcome of the election almost a sign the bernie sanders wing of the pear the winner of pledged delegates should be the nominee. >> another xaexample, elizabeth warren i'm preparing to retake leadership over the progressive part of the party. let's put this map up, if you look at the tale of the tape,
secretary clinton 1776 pledged delegates, 1501 for bernie sanders. super delegates don't vote at the convention but get votes. barack obama won the nomination eight years ago with super delegates. 544 for secretary clinton, 46 for sanders. i would focus it this way. clinton has won 28 contests to date, senator sanders 21. at the end of a football game, 28 to 21 which team wins? >> the question isn't how the primary turns out. we know how the primary turns out. your question what does bernie sanders want in the long-term is interesting because i do buy that he has created a movement here or at least taken the leadership of a movement already percolating on the left. there is this rising activist energy on the left that needed somewhere to go and he changed it effectively. these are young people, they are not mostly democrats, sanders is getting much more support from
independents. how does he coalesce beyond influencing the democratic platform and changing rules what does he do with the movement going forward that turns that activist energy into something constructive. >> high profile supporters are talking about how they can do that. keith ellison talked about how he could form this into something like obama had when he wasn't in office, something that could help progressive candidates. >> maybe also influence hillary's vice presidential pick as well the longer he holds out, maybe she's forced to pick an elizabeth warren type candidate. harry reid is open to the idea. i've seen elizabeth warren on the ticket to bring out the progressive base but also to divide, to make it harder for bernie sanders to continue. >> even though in massachusetts harry reid's objection. he's more open to it now, maybe he talked to charlie baker in mass mass.
governor baker let us know if you talked to harry reid about this. what is delicious, this will be over if hillary clinton can win california. one poll late in the week it was a usc poll had among likely voters hillary clinton had a decent lead. one of the most interesting factors again if you got gray hair like me is the governor of california jerry brown wrote a letter saying's supported hillary clinton. he applauded senator sanders and laid out his reasons for clinton. if you are old enough to remember 1992 i covered this debate, i thought they would come to employees, jerry brown, bill clinton, about hillary clinton. >> he is funneling money to his wife's law firm for state business. that's number one. >> let me tell you something, jerry, i don't care what you say about me. you ought to be ashamed of yourself for jumping on my wife. you're not worth on being the same platform as my wife. >> don't try to escape it. >> jerry here with family wealth and $1500 suit and makes a lying
accusation about my wife. that doesn't make it true. >> awesome, just like yesterday. >> there's a great psychodrama here. more recently jerry brown never endorsed barack obama and there's a feeling in california maybe they missed out on some things because of that. the clintons endorsed jerry brown for governor of california this time around, his 17th run for governor of california, and then he and bill clinton last week had a long meeting at the governor's mansion. >> in 2010 on the campus of ucla when bill clinton came out for jerry brown, gavin newsome also a candidate for governor in two years had to act as the peace broker between the two men as sort of the go-between because even then, this is ten, not very long ago there was obvious tension between the two and rhetorical kind of dance they
played. there was praise there but it was the most garrid praise you could imagine, two old rivals. >> jerry brown was the last man standing in that race. governor brown is in a different place in his life. we'll continue this conversation in a bit. up next donald trump and latinos, strong attacks on a federal judge and his newfound respect for the latino governor he trashed a few days ago. first politicians say the darnedest things. donald trump thoughts on hillary clinton slow mo style. >> this is 100% hillary clinton who lies. i mean, she lies. remember that i said that, she lies!
welcome back. donald trump at the center of the storm, almost always his own words that brought him there. trump says governor martinez "i respect her, i have always liked her." this is how he speaks of people he respects and has always liked. >> we have to get your governor to get going. she's got to do a better job, okay? your governor has got to do a better job. she's not doing the job. hey! maybe i'll run for governor of new mexico, i'll get this place going. >> now governor martinez is hardly the only only high profile latino to earn her
respect. trump says he's certain he'll do very well with latino voters. >> i think i'm going to do very well with hispanics. you know why? because i'm going to bring back jobs and they're going to get jobs right now. they're going to get jobs. i think i'm going to do very well with hispanics but we're building a wall. he's a mexican. this judge is giving us unfair rulings. now i say why? well i i'm building a wall, okay? >> fascinating interview you want to see it, in its entirety at the top of the hour on "state of the union" with jake tap per. house speaker paul ryan said he disagreed with trump's lang badge about the judge he said it was "out of left field." senator mcconnell says he thinks trump will hurt with latino waters for years and years. >> what he ought to be doing now
is trying to unify the party and attacking people once you have won is a time if you can to be gracious and try to bring the party together. >> i don't know the word, help me with the word but republicans, it's not befuddled it's worse, they just don't get this, they don't get this and they don't understand why trump, the judge is from indiana, as hillary clinton says he is as american as anybody at this table and as mr. trump is, and yet trump he has a lawsuit pending, got it. has every right to not like the judge, but he's running for president in a party that got what, 20% of the latino vote in the last two elections. >> all this assumes he's a conventional candidate who thinks logically and rationally like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell who are career politicians. it's not the way he operates. it's personal, it's visceral. this judge in his mind is coming after him, therefore i hit back.
the governor said things about me, therefore i strike back. it's not xri indicated. that's how he operates. one fast thing about paul ryan's comment this is out of left field. no it's not. three months ago at least twice once on the trail and once on "fox news sunday" he said the jhung was hispanic before multiple times. the idea this is some new level of a campaign is just nuts. he has used race and religion repeatedly during the course of the campaign to go after rivals. it's what he does. >> and it works in a primary campaign. the question is, does it work in a general election campaign when you have a different electorate? to your point if you're trump you think this is what got me here, the style i'm not changing. >> on the hispanic front you mention 27%, george w. bush got 40% of the latino vote. they're on a downward trajectory. polls have trump 20% of the latino vote.
how is that going to harden battleground states like colorado and florida and states that have huge latino populations that are important but secondly is how the rest of the party has to respond to all the things trump is saying. now, that's why paul ryan is coming up. other republicans have to say, have to respond to either support what trump is saying or rebuke what he's saying. it's going to play out time and when it if he continues to be undisciplined. >> before you jump in i want to get another example, the trump campaign says this is mr. trump acknowledging a supporter acknowledging his gratitude for a gentleman's support in the crowd. some people might think this sounds insensitive. >> we had a case where we had an african-american guy who was a fan of mine, great fan, great guy, in fact i want to find out what's going on with him, you know -- look at my african-american over here. look at him. are you the greatest? >> i don't know what to say to that. yeah, it's offensive.
>> his campaign says he just saw a guy in the crowd supporting him and trying to show his gratitude. >> most charitable example, explanation for that, just to give it a try, i've been to trump events he singles out people all the time of various, there was a group of chinese-americans in the crowd. look at my chinese-americans over here, chinese-americans for trump, he likes to see the people in the crowd and point them out. that was not an artful way do that. >> and attacks on the latino judge and likely new mexico governor who wants to meet with trump, some effort de tant we should note for the record. another thing, story in ""the boston globe"" suggesting there's a pay gap in the trump campaign. male staffers in the trump campaign paid $6100, female $4500, a 35% gap in pay.
in clinton the staffers are paid roughly equally. he could not get a details adviser from the trump campaign. there may be one on twitter as we speak but again, if you're trying to build a coalition, women, african-american, latinos. >> to jonathan's point a traditional campaign. we've seen no evidence that trump has shifted his campaign from a primary campaign message from a primary campaign strategy to a general election strategy. we have seen no evidence they keep on talking about t manafort whispers about it behind closed doors but we haven't seen a shift in resources or in language. to a general election. >> to your point -- >> california all week his primary has been over for a month. why is he in california having rallies in reading, california? >> if he should be spending every day in ohio and florida. >> to your point jackie on
instagram yesterday he put this up on instagram. i don't have time for political correctness and neither does his country. up' not going to be a traditional candidate, not going to follow the rules you people in washington want me to follow or republican party. i'm not going to do it. another issue was trump university, some documents released the new york state attorney general says it's fraud, some of the documents trying to suggest people were scammed and an issue that hillary clinton thinks in addition to her comments about coalitions and voting groups she thinks can say he's a great businessman, instead he's a scam. >> this is just more evidence that donald trump himself is a fraud. he is trying to scam america the way he scammed all those people at trump u. >> if nothing else, we've learned unlike the republican primary campaign she is going to do this every single day. >> yes, and somewhere marco rubio is saying why did not that
he work for me? the question is going to be these are the attacks that have been waged on a piesmeal basis during the primary campaign. now there's going to be a fuller frontal assault for months, does it stick and define donald trump going forward which it hasn't so far. >> trump university they can use, they're trying to use as sort of something to just beat donald trump over the head with. you said you would make these people great. you said you would make them rich. that is exactly what he's saying. that's the heart of his presidential campaign and these people felt these people at trump university felt slighted. >> trying to connect the dots. up next hillary clinton says donald trump can't be trusted.
serve as commander in chief. >> donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. i don't understand on it tadona bizarre fascination with dictators and strong men who have no love for america. we all know the tools donald trump brings to the table -- bragging, mocking, composing nasty tweets. i'm willing to bet he's writing a few right now. >> campaigning in california on friday, mr. trump returned fire. >> hillary clinton is unfit to lead our country. hillary clinton is a weak person. hillary clinton is totally scripted. hillary clinton is a thief and hillary clinton should be in jail for what she did to our national security. she's always got problems. ew