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them all california. >> we're only a few seconds away from the top of the hour. 126 delegates are at stake in new jersey. they divide those up based on the percentages of the popular vote. we're about to get the first votes coming in moments but right now the polls are closed in new jersey. our first key race alert right now it's too early to call on the winner in new jersey. we don't have enough of the votes in yet but in moments the votes will be coming in. is this a state that hillary clinton can win or can bernie sanders surprise a lot of people and win in new jersey. we'll see what happens in new jersey. stand by. we're also waiting for major speefr speeches to come up within the next hour or so i should say. hillary clinton has a big speech coming up, a historic speech, the first one as the presumptive democratic presidential nominee
and also donald trump has got a big big speech coming up outside of new york city, a speech that is going to help us better appreciate the controversy over the last few days over the remarks about a federal judge. in the meantime we have new information about what hillary clinton is about to say later tonight. let's go to jeff zeleny at clinton headquarters. what are you learning. >> reporter: i'm getting new information tonight about what is going to be in secretary clinton's speech. there will be three main points. first she will make clear this is a historic moment and put that moment in context of all the historical progress that has been made in this country, specific about how she will be the first woman to be the presidential nominee for a major party. she will talk about history but she will also talk about her vision and how it differs from donald trump. again, the themes we heard last week in that speech in san diego
about how she believes donald trump is dangerous, not prepared or ready to be commander in chief, she'll talk about donald trump. finally on point number three perhaps most important here on this night of democratic primaries, she will thank her supporters and thank senator sanders and welcome his supporters on to her team, welcome them to this unified what she hopes is a unified democratic party going forward. more importantly she wants to make the point that by the end of tonight she will have the majority of pledged delegates, for all the talk about how super delegates are flug this, she will make the case that she has the majority of pledged delegates and that's something this campaign believes will be very critical in terms of finally winning people over because she does have more votes and she will say that she has 13 million votes in terms of raw total votes and senator sanders trails her a little bit at 10 million. but a big olive branch to sanders supporters tonight when she comes on stage here later
this evening. >> i understand jeff they have a new film they're going to be releasing as well. is that right? >> reporter: they are indeed. this is something that's going to be introducing her tonight. it really is making this historical moment clear here for the people in this audience, her supporters here behind me, but also others. she wants to show what the idea of a woman president would look like in the eyes of a young girl and children and others. it's a pretty powerful campaign message here. the main takeaway from tonight is her differences from trump. that's what she wants voters to say and we'll here rebuttal from donald trump. this new york race is on starting tonight. >> it certainly is a historic night. a historic speech coming up from hillary clinton. donald trump will be speaking. sara murray is over at trump headquarters. what are you learning?
>> reporter: there's no doubt that advisors in the trump campaign are hoping that donald trump will come out tonight and he will set up the contrast between him and hillary clinton in the general election but i think one thing that's going to give us an indication of whether these last weeks has hurt the trump campaign is going to be his schedule going forward for the next few weeks. he's expected to ramp up his fundraising schedule and that's where you see whether skittish donors are going to be sitting on the sidelines. one republican fundraiser told me they haven't seen an impact on donors yet. nobody is waiting on the sidelines of his comments. i think over the next few weeks we'll get a sense of how damaging this has been in terms of raising the money he needs to mount a general election fight against hillary clinton. >> are there teleprompters there? >> reporter: that's right.
that is giving people a little bit more confidence it will be a more formal speech, that it will be a scene setter for the general election. as you know with donald trump even if he comes out here and delivers a speech from the teleprompters you never know if he will take questions from reporters and go off topic. i think that's the risk when you have a candidate like this who is unscripted. >> he's going to be speaking at the top of the hour and then hillary clinton follows. anderson over to you. >> we'll be covering all those speeches live. donald trump put out the statement several hours ago clearly hoping to try to turn a corner essentially relitigating the trump so-called university case again kind of saying that his remarks were taken out of context and trying to clarify what he claims he meant and yet he also says he's not going to talk about it anymore. that's of course remains to be
seen. >> there are two drufronald tru. there's the one in front of the cameras and the donald trump who wrote that statement, whoever that was. it's very hard to reconcile the two. this is the problem for the republican party. this is a cartoon today and it's donald trump hand in hand with paul ryan except paul ryan is in a hazmat suit. this is the concern of republicans. here is the challenge though. jake said can he stay on script. this is not what got him here. reading from a teleprompter isn't what got donald trump here. that's not who he is. how long is he going to stay on a teleprompter? i don't believe it. it's not in character with his candidacy. >> in an interview with jake he attacked hillary clinton for when she gave her speech which was about foreign policy but was really about donald trump he attacked her saying she wasn't
giving a speech, she was reading somebody else's words. >> david and i have been talking about this because he attacks her for being too cautious and we've been talking about this during the breaks about how actually her caution could help her now ironically against a candidate like donald trump who many people believe is so unpredictable. so it's her stability versus his instability whatever you want to call it. >> she's the status quo and we'll say which wins out. presidential races ratchet up every step of the way and the scrutiny you receive as a candidate running for the nomination is nothing compared to the scrutiny you get when you take that step, one step away from the presidency and the question is how will these candidates deal with that
pressure. she's acostumed to that pressure and he is not. >> how does he wear over time -- there was novelty factor when he burst on the scene but over time how does that wear. >> it's like if you watch reality tv, sort of the vilan on a reality tv show you want to watch them and they're amazing for a little while but after a while it starts to get redundant. >> a show is only on once a week. >> you can tell hillary clinton in some of her speeches an democrats are saying this is how he would be in the white house. there wouldn't be any change. this kind of unpredictability could you see this person in your living room every day leading the country in the face of the country. i think tonight republicans want to see a different donald trump. they want to see that he is starting to have the apparatus of a campaign around him. >> i want to say that i think
the comment he made about the federal judge was an enormous blunder and i think it struck people as being anti-american and there's a question that donald trump can't answer which is if he believes this gentleman is biased against him why hasn't his legal team gone to court, followed the process and filed a recusal motion. the lawyers won't touch it and he has no response to that question. >> jeffry? >> don't listen donald. what we're about to see here, anybody who wins a presidential nomination can they reshape their party, has the party been reshaped from the bottom as i believe it has in donald trump's case. so is he going to put on the republican party as ronald reagan did? that's going to be one of the questions. to answer michael's question, my point here has been repeatedly
the republican establishment has basically sold out on race. they have bought into this whole notion of identity politics. it's bad. it's slavery and segregation. it should get nowhere near the party of abraham lincoln. what donald trump is doing is he's calling out this role model. how many times over the years have we heard about the politicization of the police and liberals. how many times do they say this police chief is racist? this judge is racist? what do we hear about ferguson and baltimore. >> that's not an answer. i love you but why hasn't the motion been filed? why hasn't he put in paperwork whatever the cause is other than he thinks this man's mexican heritage. >> this man is a lifetime member of the national hispanic bar
association which on july -- wait, wait, wait -- which on july 2nd of last year put out a statement saying there should be a boycott of all trump properties. >> that's not an answer nor does it address -- >> whatever his lawyers are going to do -- >> i were representing him i couldn't say -- i'm an attorney. if i were his attorney i could not say -- i would run afoul of the code of conduct if i were saying what he is saying and taking advantage of the process. >> he's running for president of the united states. are we going to have a judiciary that is infected by racial politics? >> one at a time. >> this is a total distraction from both michael's question, the other question of what the hell this has to do with the actual case, nothing, and the
notion of donald trump out of one side of his mouth saying hispanics love me, they're going to vote for me because i've not said anything disparaging to saying this hispanic hates me because i've said disparaging things about him. you can't have it both ways. you can't win the hispanic votes and have hispanics love you. >> you miss the point. >> it's a total admission. i think it really has him spooked. and you know it has him spooked because he's using a prompter tonight which is a complete defeat. he is going to look so small on this rally on such a big day -- he's going to look so small standing at this rally on such a big night speaking from a prompter with all of the excitement completely out of his sails because he's been spooked by this. it's been universal
condemnation. >> i'velin listened to you for while and i have a theory about how you see race in this election. when trump talks about race, trump is a hero. he's standing up against the pc hoards. when anybody else in the world, including paul ryan, if they don't agree with trump, they are a racist. there is no other way to make sense of your comments, sir. there's nothing wrong with this judge at all. this judge is a part of some organizations. organizations do all kinds of stuff. michael is right. there is no basis to attack this man's character to attack his professionalism and you would be much better served to have a more consistent view of race than if trump said it it's right. >> let jeffry respond. >> i'm saying this issue goes way beyond donald trump. >> everything about race is bad. has trump ever said anything about race that's wrong?
>> he hasn't said that much about race to be perfect candid. >> he began his national political career attacking the president of the united states lying and saying he wasn't legitimately president. it was all about race. >> five different white guys get attacked and it's race when obama is attacked. >> of course the birth thing is racist. second mr. trump began with a racist attack on the president. he announced for president with a racist attack against mexicans. he said they were rapists and murderers. >> let him say his peace. >> he said he wants a total and complete ban on muslims coming into the country and surveillance of mosques. he now has attacked a federal
judge and he didn't say he belongs to a group which there's wrong with, he said he can't judge me fairly because he's mexican, which he's not. he's from indiana, not mexico. indiana is part of the u.s. he's said a muslim could not judge him in court. these -- i can't say into his heart. i have no idea if he's a racist, i hope he's a good person, but speaker ryan said the comment about judge curiel was the textbook definition of racist comment. that's coming from the republican speaker of the house. this is racist stuff he's playing with. >> the thing i found most interesting was that you said somehow suggested that what trump is saying is in the tradition of abraham lincoln and i can't imagine what the would have to say about what he's hearing from donald trump. >> the tradition of the republican party is that we are a color blind party and a color blind party. that's not the tradition of the democratic party which has
supported slavery, segregation, lynching. the civil rights bills were done a century -- >> one at a time. >> was the civil rights movement a racist movement. >> that had to do with what we passed 100 years ago. you spent 100 years profiting off of keeping black people out of polls. the democratic party. >> is that a bigoted organization. >> no. >> so what's the difference between them. is the naacp -- >> it's become a liberal group.
>> if the republican party supposed to be color mind wblin is trump bringing up the -- >> let her respond. >> if the republican party supposed to be color blind then why is trump the first person to mention this judge is mexican. >> because what he's saying here is that the judiciary has been politicalized and racialized. >> that's not what he said. you're saying that. >> i'm saying what he has touched on is part of the larger problem of doing this. if we all remember judge bork he was a racist. >> jeffry, you are interpreting comments made by donald trump without any evidence that that is what donald trump was referencing. >> trump university -- >> what he was referencing was that this guy's mexican, i'm building a wall. that's all he said. you're reading into it and sort of projecting all these things on to it. >> i'm saying we've had a long
history here in recent decades of the politicization -- >> none of which donald trump has mentioned? does donald trump know that what you're talking about. >> sure because i think he's backed into this in his own fashion with this particular judge. >> you have no evidence that's what donald trump meant. all you can go on is what donald trump said and he made no reference to anything you are rc referencing. >> what he's saying is the guy has a political conflict of interest. >> i would like to try and explain this to people at home because there's a danger here that undermines the entire judicial system. if he were the judge and i were a litigant and it were a divorce case or a child custody case by trump's logic i would say she must recuse herself because she's a female. if i had if the case involved the catholic church then i would say you must recuse yourself because
we know where you worship on sunday. who is left to serve on that thin basis. >> this is exactly the point. this is what the american left has done to the judiciary, to police, universities. >> wait, wait, wait. let me give you an example. wait. i belong -- this will surprise you to the united church of christ. just today there was an article on the daily column that says that someone at my church on the staff of the united church of christ has put out a memo that says if you're white, you are a racist automatically. you can't get out of it. accept the fact. that has nothing to do with donald trump, it has nothing to do with the issue, the point is this is the thinking that goes on in places occupied by leftist.
>> why wouldn't you condemn it when donald trump does it? >> i am condemning it repeatedly. what i'm saying is the republican party has accepted this stuff and ingested it into its own situation and is accepting this. i'm saying that's morally wrong. >> what donald trump said is morally wrong. >> racism is morally wrong and what he's doing here, by backing into this, is saying that here is a judge that lbelongs to thee organizations -- >> here's the big danger in america. that you begin to develop a cult of personality. >> no. >> be quiet. you develop a cult of personality where a strongman is right because he's right. in other words, the exact same behavior if it were done by a liberal you would say is racist. when trump does it it's right.
it doesn't make sense to me. i listened to you carefully. will you denounce what trump said as racism. >> it wasn't racist. he is calling attention to racism. hello. hello. he said this judge can't judge me because he's mexican. >> guys -- >> we did a six mile lap avoid answering a question. >> no. >> youne answer the question. >> this guy is so self identifying that he's a latino before he's a judge. >> that's not what donald trump said. you're inventing an explanation that donald trump has never said himself. what he said was very clear. he's mexican, he's an anti-trump
guy. >> a latino. are mexicans latinos? are they, yes or no. >> yes. >> this judge belongs to organizations that go out there -- legal organizations, this is not about -- >> this is not donald trump's reasoning. he said he's an anti-trump. >> he did. it's call the federalists society. >> he told jake tapper over and over again i want to build a wall. he's a mexican. his point is very clear. yours is very -- >> he belongs as i said to you to a bar association that said all trump properties should be boycotted. >> donald trump didn't say that. you're saying that. donald trump said mexican. donald trump was latching on mexican. he's not mexican. he's american. he's an american citizen. >> of course he's american. >> donald trump doesn't say
that. >> what i am trying to say to you is is that we have so divided this country -- >> i get you're saying that but that's not what donald trump is saying. donald trump doesn't even know that. >> in jeffry's defense this is a difficult job. almost no one has -- >> he's very skilled, but sometimes you just have to say the guy was wrong. the guy was wrong. >> it is not wrong to call out racism. >> we all agree on that. >> good. >> we all agree on that is. >> one at a time. >> can you explain to me when you say that donald trump backed into -- this is through the looking glass for me because i really don't understand it, when you say that donald trump backed into this. >> right. >> what do you mean? >> bwhat i'm saying is he approached this through the lens of the trump university say and he's come face to face with a judge he believes is racist against him. what i'm saying to you is that
the larger issue, this is part of a larger issue that has been going on for years long before donald trump. this is when sonna said put me on the bench because i'm a wise latino. she's saying the same thing. >> i want to say something in defense of donald trump. is that okay? >> it all depends. >> up until now as much as i didn't like it you could make a case for him. he would say keep all the muslims out. >> he didn't say that. >> let's me finish. >> a temporary ban on muslims. >> a total and complete were the adjectives being said.
>> i said my church has somebody there that put out a statement that said if you're white you're a racist. >> i can't wait to hear what mr. trump says about this when he speaks to the nation but you know he'll respond to this tonight. it will be interesting to see what he says about this. >> i'm a lawyer too and i've never practiced but i have run a lot of campaigns and it seems to me when you're own party is
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jersey. we're awaiting a speech coming up at the top of the hour. donald trump will be speaking a very important speech. we'll see what he says about that huge controversy involving that federal judge out in california. jake. >> the governor of new jersey, chris christie, a big trump supporter but let's switch back to the democratic race where it's still neck and neck. jeff zeleny let's go to you. you're at clinton headquarters in brooklyn, new york and hillary clinton trying to make tonight an event nationwide. >> reporter: the clinton campaign has ups and downs. they remember the defeats from new hampshire and iowa but tonight is unlike any other election night rally she's had. you can see the sign that says history. that's one of the central themes here that secretary clinton wants to make tonight that her nomination would indeed mean
history. this is more than in brooklyn. they are organizing house parties in key battle ground states across the country, also north carolina. president obama narrowly won north carolina in 2008 and narrowly lost it in 2012. they are taking brooklyn out to the country and we'll hear from secretary clinton later this evening. >> jeff, thanks so much. one of the big questions this evening not only what will secretary clinton say in her speech, but what will senator bernie sanders say in his speech and brianna is in california. california having a very big primary today, the biggest prize on the table this evening. what are we expecting senator sanders to do next? after he gives his speech where
is he going to go? >> we're being told now by his campaign that he is heading home to vermont. he will there tomorrow and then he's going on to d.c. on thursday for meetings and for a rally. we knew he was going to have a rally later this week. this is of course ahead of the washington, d.c. primary that takes place in a week. what's so intriguing is he's going to be having meetings in washington, d.c. because at this point in time you would expect and we know there's been some reaching out between the two campaigns as we head to the convention here we know they are been in touch. so are those meetings going to be unifying the party and moving forward here in the next month and a half going into the convention. that's the big question. bernie sanders capping off his almost three weeks here in california where he has really bet the house. he visited a farmer's market a short time ago. earlier he was on hollywood boulevard. tonight he's going to be giving his speech in the santa monica
arrangeme airport. i'm told he is tailoring his speech depending on the outcome of the california primary but he's keeping it close to the vest about what he's going to say. >> it could be significant he's going to vermont. it could be that he needs a moment away from everybody to decide what to do next. >> no question. it's probably all of the above, right? at this point in time presume ably at the end of the night it's not going to be just about super delegates, probably about pledged delegates also. meaning it's game over for him and how is he going to play his cards of which he has many. so that is going to be very interesting. the fact that he's coming to washington where he hasn't been in a long time despite the fact
that he works up the street at the capital i think is telling. we know there is a primary here of course on june 14th so it's not just about campaigning. perhaps he has other important meetings and conversations that he's going to have about what it will take for him to formally endorse or give a blessing to hillary clinton. >> you say that with a smirk on your face as if you know something that you're not telling us. >> i wish. >> let's go to wolf blitzer. >> we're getting closer to those speeches by hillary clinton and donald trump. we expect to hear from donald trump very soon. will he address the controversy that's swirling around his campaign right now or will he ignore it? you're about to find out. we'll be right back.
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speaking on this night and hillary clinton will follow with her first formal speech as the presumptive democratic presidential nooeminee. we'll have live coverage coming up at the top of the hour. let's get a key race alert in new jersey. the democratic presidential primary, 2% of the vote is in. hillary clinton maintaining an impressive lead. 57.7% to bernie sanders 42.3%. only 2% of the precincts close early in new jersey. hillary clinton coming out of the gate with a strong lead. let's go over to john king. >> senator sanders said he thought he had a chance to win the five in the west and he was hoping for a good performance in what he called a tough contest in new jersey. only at 2% so let's wait and sigh if more votes come in. the only thing significant as
you look at the map don't place a bet on 2% of the results but in every county that has reported some votes so far hillary clinton is in the lead. that includes jersey city. that's won 62% of the vote there. you move up here into passaic county. a little shy of 6% of the state's population. she's winning big there. we don't have anything from newark. you move to the western part of the state here boarding pennsylvania, small warren county she's winning early on. you can't drew any conclusions except if you're in the clinton campaign you know the early vote is starting to come in your way. 12% here in glouster county. if you're looking at this in the
clinton campaign you're very happy. this is of all the states tonight this is a difficult one for senator sanders. the question comes what happened in the end assuming she's still on top, what does he get for delegates moving for but to catch her he has to win 71% of the remaining delegates. that's not an encouraging number early on. you can't do it by statewide vote but he's going to have to be above 71% and the early numbers suggests that's not a good start. >> you've heard donald trump say in the general election he thinks he can beat hillary clinton in new jersey. >> he said that in california too. donald trump has defied just about every rule of politics so when he says these things you can look at history if you want to go to the general election, let's look at 2012. that would not be encouraging to
any republican. so can donald trump do it? hasn't happened in a long time. i think you have go back to 1988 if my memory is right about the state of new jersey. most people think donald trump's better path is here across the rust belt. pennsylvania maybe, but he thinks he can do this. the question is how much is that do the super pacs and republican money are they going into new jersey, michigan, new jersey, pennsylvania, pennsylvania or california? i would bet the rust belt. >> we'll see what happens. we know he spent a lot of time lately with chris christie the governor of new jersey. we'll see that helps. >> sara is standing by at trump headquarters as we're a couple of minutes away from donald trump make ag speech tonight using a teleprompter, a written out speech, a rarity for this
candidate. i understand trump has tweeted out a little bit what we may anticipate tonight. >> reporter: yeah, donald trump likes to provide his own previews on twitter so he's doing that again tonight. he's saying i will be speaking about our great journey to the republican nomination at 9:00 p.m. a movement toward a country that wins again. of course as you were talking about earlier a number of republicans both inside and outside of his campaign are hoping his speech will go further than that. we'll talk more about the contrast voters are facing in the general election between donald trump and hillary clinton and that he'll begin to crystallize his case against her. if you think that people here have been impacted at all by the rough couple of days by donald trump, that is not the sense at this event. on the other side of a door to my left supporters of donald trump, his family members are in there and sipping cocktails. they're listening to party music. that's a happy atmosphere here. it's not lost on them here. another one of trump's
properties that this is a huge occasion for donald trump. this brings to an end for the primary season and a billionaire businessman with no political experience is the presumptive nominee. >> an incredible achievement. a night of incredible achievements on both sides of the aisle. as we wait for donald trump's speech, what do you think he tries to do -- it's been a tough day for the republican party. you've had a number of leading republicans, paul ryan and others, coming forward and saying paul ryan said donald trump's comments are textbook raci racism. so what does donald trump need to do. >> he has his hands tied tonight because as others have pointed out he's only gotten this far by being himself, by saying these kind of outrageous things and stoking these fears and tensions and i think by specifically to nationalists and so now he's in a predicament of being told by very prominent republican
leaders that he needs to tone it down. he has not listened to them in the past but i think we've all been -- with the exception of jeffry we've all been thinking when is the thing going to happen where he is finally held accountable? this might be. obviously it's not going to stop him from winning the nomination but i think if he loses the election to hillary clinton this incident and how he handled it i think could be the beginning of the end. i really don't think this is something he's just going to hop over as he has every other controversy. so tonight if he goes to prompter as he's supposed to i think he looks completely defeated. >> it is different isn't it? usually he's been such a masterful fighter. he'll hit and pivot and swing back and moves. he's gotten himself just bogged
down -- he has not shown the deftness. usually he does something like that and changes it. why is he bogged down there. >> he's not. the establishment is bogged down there. i mean, with all do respect and you know i love you all, but what i'm trying to communicate to you is that out there in this audience are people that are looking at our discussion and seeing 7-1 and saying to themselves that's why i don't like those people. that's why i like donald trump. >> because we're such bullies. >> i'm saying some admiration. i like people who -- >> this is one. >> what i'm saying as the captain of an insurgency i think he's led aground. in other words usually he's been pretty masterful. >> it's remarkable that in the course of a day and maybe you
can explain his thinking in the course of a day he went from tripling down on this topic with jake tapper and telling his surrogates don't stop talking about it, go harder on it, to issuing a statement in which he said i'm no longer going to talk about this. >> in terms of surrogates going harder on it i had my column about half to three quarters written before i was on that phone call. so in other words -- >> it's a remarkable shift. >> we've been through this process a few times. i said in 2011 that is an mri for the soul. whoever you are, your exposed in the process. it's almost not about any particular incident, but the aggregate of all the things that happen in a campaign that give people an impression muof who y are and how you would function as president of the united states. so these wild fluctuates are going to be concerning to
people. >> let him respond. >> i think it asks too much. i know he's going to have a teleprompter. as a guy who has written thousands of speeches i worry about setting the bar too high. i think people are saying be more like reagan. i watched a tape of reagan. he can't reach that loft. option two is double down on this very divisive stuff which bolsters his base but it makes addition impossible. the third option is small and petty and it's what he will do is attack hillary. which is fine. >> hillary is going to attack trump and trump is going to attack hillary and i suspect that's all we're going to get from him. maybe scripted. >> you mean tonight. >> tonight. >> i want to ask jeffry a
question because you're talking about a republican establishment that's running away from him, but now he's the leader of the republican party which for better or worse includes the establishment because they're the speaker of the house, the leader of the senate, they're people running for reelection, so he now is their leader. >> correct. >> does he have an obligation to listen to them because their futures are at stake as well. >> of course. he is a very good listener. i know you find that -- >> no, i don't, but it would be interesting tonight to say. >> newt gingrich has said he's a terrific listener. a lot of these people who met with him, spent time with him, i certainly have, he is a very good listener. what he will do here is what any presidential nominee does. david, i'm sure understands exactly what i'm saying.
the democratic party is about to transition from being the party of barack obama to the party of hillary clinton. and she gets a few weeks here until july to make it her own and then stand up there, accept that nomination and stamp her brand on it. that is what he is beginning to do tonight. until you bring these people along with you. what you don't do is go in the other direction. >> isn't that what he's doing though? that's the question. >> he's not going in there direction. they've got to go in his. >> so -- >> when ronald reagan who you said was a great political figure i think it's unfair to compare to trump because he was a governor of the largest state in the country for two terms before he became president of the united states but when he got that nomination what did he do? he put george h.w. bush on the ticket as vice president. he literally merged the factions
of his party together. where is the evidence that donald trump is going do that. >> paul manafort. >> paul manafort hardly represents the republican establishment. >> i think he's become a part of the republican establishment over the years. jeff sessions you don't think is part of that? >> he wouldn't talk about this issue. he was asked by reporters about it and he ran into an elevator right, jeff sessions. so he wouldn't comment on it. trump is now the leader of the republican party. >> he's a leader period and he will do what he needs to do. >> the voters voted for donald trump. these establishment figures, the people who originally voted for them they're voting for donald trump. does it matter what the establishment thinks? >> in that sense -- >> they're his flock now. >> it's a general election. >> they are smart politicians. for their own survival here --
>> donald trump's aggregated vote will be a fraction of what a general election electorate will look like. this is a general election. you have to expand your appeal. if you keep doing the things you were doing in the primary -- >> i would say -- >> i'm endorsed by a sitting republican senator, donald trump, in other words you said that the party has to go to him, the only evidence we have at least tonight is the party is going in the other direction. >> you know why because they are worried about losing their seats. so the point of uniting congressmen and senators and party leaders is to preserve the house and senate, future supreme court. if donald trump is out there saying i'm going to do it without all of you -- >> he's not. >> he says he wants to be more presidential and then he does stuff like this. >> just uniting the party is step one. then he needs to reach outside the party. president reagan who we keep
referring to he got 37% of the hispanic vote. he said hispanics are republicans, they just don't know it. he signed amnesty, not the punishment that republicans call it. he reached out. he was about inclusion and so far donald trump, especially with these hateful comments about the judge, he is about subtraction. >> if you listen to yourself, the essence of what you're saying has been said for the last six months. the wall street journal editorial said this is -- this is after the mccain incident they said here he comes with the implosion. not so. i don't have to repeat this. we all know this didn't happen and we all said there's a ceiling. some people said there's a ceiling. he gets through it and he gets 60% of the vote. >> until he clinched the
nomination and everybody faded away he got about 40% of the republican vote which is is a small percentage of the overall general electiorate. these tactics worked in the republican primary but how do you win a general election with this kind of behavior? >> it's already clear that this behavior is going to drag on his numbers. >> i'm trying to suggest to you politically speaking is what you guys find as terrible behavior folks out there are saying it's about time. >> let him finish. let him finish. >> the other day that the press conference there that was so controversial the next day rush limbaugh said this is the press con trens th conference that republicans have been waiting to hear for 25 years. >> why do you think he's only getting 18% of the latino votes, why do you think he's tied with
white women when republicans typically win white women. those are the numbers in the polls right now. >> i think in terms of the latinos right now is the race issue keeps getting played. >> by him. >> no. >> he brought up mexico. >> i suggest you read the column and the word that will jump off the page is tone. they said we have a tonality issue. >> jobs is the answer. >> let's toss it back to wolf. >> we're waiting for some more polls to be closing. waiting to hear from donald trump. of course he's coming up at the top of the hour but the polls are closing in new mexico right at the top of the hour and south dakota and the caucuses will convenience in north dakota. that's happening at the top of the hour. donald trump getting ready to speak, a very important speech. we'll hear what he has to say if
he raises the issue of the controversy over the federal judge. >> let's talk about what we're expecting to hear from donald trump. first of all we should note he hates teleprompters and he talks about how he's able to give these speeches where he criticizes others, barack obama, hillary clinton and more from reading for teleprompters but they are rolling out teleprompters for him this evening, so among his campaign handlers there is a hope among people on his staff that he will be reading from a script. >> absolutely. that's something he believes is important for tonight to try to get across a very specific, very well carefully crafted message. my understand something that it is going to be a thank you to the republican party, an attempt for him in these very difficult times, especially the last few days, within his party to try to