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costello. thank you so much for joining me. donald trump ready to turn up the heat, as hillary clinton heads to capitol hill. next hour, trump fires off a rebuttal after clinton's scathing attack why he is dangerous for the u.s. economy. >> trump would take us back to where we were before the crisis. he would rig the economy for wall street again. well, that will not happen on my watch. we can't let him bankrupt america like we are one of his failed casinos. >> a source telling cnn trump will tear into mrs. clinton like her e-mail scandal and immigration. all part of a strategy to reboot trump's campaign and reset the narrative. and as trump gets ready to counter punch, hillary clinton will meet behind closed doors with house democrats. we're following all of with this the team of political reporters. let's begin with sara murray, where trump is expected to speak next hour. good morning. >> reporter: good morning,
carol. well, there is no doubt donald trump is coming off of a rough couple of days. he fired his campaign manager, corey lewandowski, posting some fundraising numbers far lower than we would expect to see from the republican nominee, but today, he is looking to change all of that and put the focus on hillary clinton. >> so many of the things she said were out right lies. >> aiming to put hillary clinton on defense. >> she is crooked hillary. let's face it. she is crooked hillary. always has been, and nothing will change. >> reporter: the presumptive gop nominee, preparing to deliver a speech in new york city today. targeting everything from immigration to clinton's e-mail scandal, and even accusing the former first couple of improper dealings when clinton was secretary of state. >> her record is a disaster. in addition to taking in tens of millions of dollars of people for a lot of different things and lots of different ways, and countries that should not be giving her money or her husband money. >> reporter: on tuesday, he
fired off preliminary shots, even questioning clinton's faith at a gathering of religious leaders. >> she has been in the public eye for years and years. and yet there is no -- nothing out there. >> reporter: trump's focus on clinton, coming as he tries to pivot from staff shake-ups and dismal fundraising, ending last month with $1.3 million, compared to clinton's $43 million. arguing her dollars come with a price. >> all of the money she is raising, that's blood money. that's blood money. >> reporter: the billionaire businessman, still dangling the idea of self-funding in the general. >> i'll be honest, i never raised money for this before because i've never done it before. i think i would be good at it. i would be happy to self-fund. >> reporter: even though he spent tuesday evening looking to shore up his campaign coffers at a new york city fund-raiser. >> how are you feeling about the campaign? >> reporter: as trump and his allies put on a happy face and down-play concerns about the candidate's campaign war chest.
going into a head to head battle against clinton. now, donald trump has continued to face skepticism from members of his own party, but a number of republicans say the best way to unify other republicans behind him is to rally against a common enemy, in this case, hillary clinton. so today, he'll get a chance to prove to republicans how he can prosecute this case against hillary clinton. >> also happening next hour, hillary clinton huddling with house leaders, including nancy pelosi and xavier bass xavier b. good morning, manu. >> reporter: good morning. when hillary clinton comes here, we're expecting more of a pep rally atmosphere, not a contentious group she is meeting with. when you look at the primary, during the primary season, only nine house democrats actually
backed bernie sanders over hillary clinton. so this party is mostly in lock step behind her. one of the things that will be interesting to see is the kind of questions she hears from the audience, we're hearing she'll probably take questions from house democrats, so what do they ask her and any of those will put her on the spot? this comes as she heads to rally, north carolina, to talk about the economy, shying away from donald trump, and donald trump taking it to hillary clinton, as sarah just reported. donald trump is slated also to come to capitol hill next month, july 7th, expected to meet with house republicans, and he has work to do to get his party behind him. as we know, the house republican conference is not necessarily behind him. it is much different than democrats, behind hillary clinton, and they believe they have an ativan tabling heading to the general election. they're largely behind her here in washington. >> manu raju, thank you. we will get back to you.
let's bring in brad sherman, a democratic from california and a senior member of the house foreign affairs committee and clinton supporter. welcome, sir. >> good to be with you. >> will you meet with secretary clinton today? >> absolutely. as soon as we're done with this interview. >> what will that be like? that will you talk about? >> well, this is going to be a pep rally, as your reporter said. almost all of us have been with hilly from t hillary from the beginning, and this will be a chance for us to be fired up and ready to go. and also to talk about some of the finer points of the campaign. especially how the presidential campaign can also help us take back the house of representatives. donald trump is doing so poorly, that's a possibility. >> will you be watching mr. trump's speech? >> i will actually be in the room with chairman yellen of the federal reserve board, and that will be a little bit more policy oriented than what mr. trump has
to say. >> so you will be busy working in other words. mr. trump's speech is expected to be no holds barred. he profited from debt at the expense of working people. listen. >> hillary clinton is only right about one thing. i understand debt and had how to hand it. i made a fortune with debt. but debt for this country is a disaster and obama has piled it on and she has been there watching. >> mr. trump told abc he was simply using the loss on the book as any good businessman would. what's wrong with that. >> well, what's wrong with it is when he refuses to pay the small businesses that helped build his buildings. when he stiffs plumbers, when he stiffs painters, and then hides behind the fact that i'm rich, i've got a lot of lawyers, you can't sue me, you don't have a legal counsel. so i think that that's not the way most people do business, and it is certainly not the way the united states can do business. he has talked about putting our
full faith and credit on the line, and not honoring u.s. debt. that would be such an incredible disaster for the world economy, because while hundreds of years ago, gold was the standard, now the standard is u.s. government bonds. and the entire world economy is dependant upon the full faith and credit of the united states, which should never be put at risk. >> mr. trump will also likely hammer mrs. clinton and her husband and how much money they made in speaking fees, allegedly fueled by clinton's time in the state department. cnn found between 2001 and 2015, the clintons earned more than $153 million for 729 separate speeches. some of those speeches were delivered to groups with ties to foreign countries. mr. trump will likely charge clinton turn the state department in noo what he calls a private hedge fund. why is he wrong? >> presidents have been giving speeches after they've left office, certainly since ronald
reagan, who received a much bigger speaking fee when he went to japan than anything any president has earned since. it is true that president clinton has given probably and secretary clinton has probably given more speeches. they've work hard at it. in terms of what people are willing to pay to bring to their audience, a former president of the united states, there are groups that are willing to pay a lot, and they paid ronald reagan -- >> but sir, $153 million. isn't it time that hillary clinton release the transcripts of those wall street speeches? wouldn't that put this matter to rest? >> i'm sure that would doing nothing to put the matter to rest, just because trump will never rest. his negatives are so extreme, he is called by speaker ryan a textbook racist. he will do nothing but attack, attack, attack. the clintons have been under attack for 25 years. of course, trump will try to continue that.
the problem he has is -- >> won't it put to rest, won't it put voters' minds to rest if hillary clinton releases the transcripts? after all, bernie sanders called for her to do that? >> yes, in a primary, many things happen. but the fact is that the -- she has given thousands of speeches that are on the record. we know what she has to say. we know what her positions are. of course, her web page lays out her positions for the future. you go to the trump web page and all you see is attacks. all you see is vile. we need a positive prescription for the future of this country. >> right. >> you'll see that in hillary's program. >> let me ask you this. mark zandy, the economic plan would be disastrous to the country, and he donated money to
mrs. clinton and john mccain and mr. trump will surely bring this up. how should voters take tzandy report. >> he knows something about economics, but so do others in this country and they've reached the same conclusion. that is, we better not let trumps hands on to this economy. >> but should voters worry about these donations from mr. zandy and to mrs. clinton. >> it is clear he has put a little bit of money where his mouth is. i don't think that he is -- that the amounts of the contributions are significant. you can't say that zandy controls the clinton campaign because he has donated 1 or $2,000. it dose show he is so motivated that he is willing to put his money where his mouth is and he speaks not -- he is a centrist economist. the vast majority make quibble
with the plan, but he is doing something with his own money to prevent a disaster. >> thank you for joining me this morning. just a reminder, tonight's libertarians town hall will be moderated by chris cuomo, starting at 9:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. orlando nightclub, omar mateen apparently made travel plans. surprising development, talk about that, next.
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entered the club in an effort to check out security. that news coming, as a friend of the shooter is speaking out about why he warned federal officials about the gunman some two years ago. cnn boris sanchez, live in orlando with more. good morning, boris. >> reporter: good morning, carol. investigators are expanding the timeline of everything that happened the early morning of the shooting and the night before as well. interesting note, the day before the shooting, apparently the gunman bought tickets for him and his family to go from west palm best palm beach to san francisco. the wife of the shooter told investigators that the night before the shooting, he was visibly agitated, angry, and that he left their home in port st. lucie carrying a bag. we later found out the bag was full of firearms. she said she tried to stop him but didn't know exactly what he was bound to do. attorney general loretta lynch was here in orlando yesterday,
and she has the question of whether or night the wife would be facing charges. we heard from a former friend of the shooter last night as well. mohammed maliq, and he told us that he heard the shooter make comments in 2014 that alarmed him, specific references to radical islamic material online that alerted him, and forced him to contact authorities. here is what he said. >> omar mateen brought the name omar raliqui, that has radical lysised several people, including the fort hood shooter, and he had also seen videos, and my reaction to him was what he thought about the videos. and he told me they were powerful. both of those raised a red flag for me and prompted me to speak to the fbi. even at that point, you know,
having known omar, he had just started, you know, he had gotten married for a second time. had a son. and was starting a family. i didn't think that he fit the profile, but as a precaution, to prevent anything bad from happening again, to prevent any more innocent people from getting hurt, i thought the fbi should be notified. >> and carol, you heard him say he didn't think he fit the profile, the shooter didn't fit the profile, but alarmed him because at the same mosque, another member of the mosque had recently traveled to syria and took part in a suicide bombing there. this was a red flag, one sadly the fbi investigated but did not lead to an arrest, carol. >> i was curious about when the friend went to the fbi about the shooter, he went there in 2014, and like can you explain to us what more happened? sgrnch >> reporter: from what we've heard from the fbi, they
interviewed him, i believe the second time he had been interviewed, but nothing came of it. we know the fbi scanned some of his background information, but there was nothing substantial enough to lead to an arrest, and so they basically let him off without pursuing it further. >> all right, boris sanchez, reporting live from orlando, thanks so much. let's talk more about this. tom fuentes, and former fbi assistant director. good morning, tom. >> good morning, carol. >> what do you make of the friend going to the fbi and saying he had suspicions in 2014? >> i think it is an important factor in this case, and i know the fbi is looking back at that, and seeing exactly what he said, and exactly what they did when he said it. i think you know, we have to verify that in fact that's what he told the fbi. we've already had a gun shop owner come out and claim that he called the if. -- fbi when he didn't. the fbi went to his gun shop for
another investigation. i would like to see this verified, or you know, i know the fbi is looking at it to verify it. even if it is true, that he reported that, the problem, there is thousands and thousands of people that are out there watching to this day, right this minute probably, on things posting on the internet that went out from al qaeda and yemen while he was still alive and even continued after he is dead. and merely watching this, again, they can come out and be suspicious, but they have to see something of wanting to commit violence. apparently mateen had not been sufficiently radicalized in 2013, 2014, to warrant that, and then you hear from others and his wife, his widow, that just recently he started to get more agitated, more violent, more suspicious. he bought the guns he used in orlando within the week before
the attack. he was trying to get body armor apparently a week or so before that. so you really don't see him going over the line of committing acts in furtherance of wanting to shoot somebody, until very, very recently before the orlando attack. >> so you have to like stop and try to figure out what triggered his behavior, right? supposedly he bought these three plane tickets, one for himself, wife and his son the day before the shooting, and then his wife saw him leave the house with a bag full of guns, and he was very agitated. so what do you suppose happened? >> i don't know what happened. and what we don't know, and may never know is did he really decide to do it when he left the house, was he sure that's what he was going to do. he wasn't completely positive he was going to commit an attack. so we don't know. he had told her apparently he was going to see friends, and you know, i think in her mind, she might have been afraid that if she called the fbi or the
police and they tracked him down and he was at a friend's house, he would come home and beat her, because she had been subjected to domestic violence from him, just like his first wife had been subjected to abuse from him. so i think that you know, we have all of these little indications, but again, it is very difficult. i know director of the fbi comey has said, looking for him was like a needle in a nationwide haystack. that's exactly right. it is a needle among other needles, and you don't know which needle is the bad one. that's the problem. the fbi is looking at hundreds and thousands of people that are expressing these bad thoughts or supportive of terrorism thoughts, hiding behind their first amendment rights. they're watching these videos and isis production videos, which come out by the thousands every single day. and they can't stop that ideology from just being trumpeted on a daily, hourly basis from al qaeda, frommi isi
and they don't know when an individual will finally decide, okay, it's my time, i'm going to commit a violent act. they don't know inside somebody's brain that final step is decided to be taken. >> all right, tom fuentes, thank you for your insight. hillary clinton and donald trump trading punches over trust and transparency. is it a fight either of them can win? wherever you are. splenda zero is a fun, easy way to get the perfect amount of sweetness, down to the last sip. zero calories. zero carbs. zero sugar. zero effort. new splenda zero.
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cnn senior investigative reporter, drew griffin takes a closer look. >> he is famously rich, famously boastful and from the very beginning of this campaign -- he made sure everyone knew. donald trump would be like no other candidate in the race. >> because i don't need anybody's money. it's nice. i don't need anybody's money. i'm using my own money. >> donald trump, may be using his own money, but also spending a lot of that money on donald trump. in one of the odder twists in an ever odder campaign, the candidate who owns jets, resorts, hotels and office buildings is apparently making sure that's the very jet, resorts and office buildings his campaign is using. >> nobody is going to be taking care of me. i don't want anybody's money. >> newly released election expenditures show donald trump, the candidate, has been spending millions on donald trump, the businessman. and it's all perfectly legal.
trump's campaign has paid trump's tag air, $4.6 million to use the trump jet. trump's mar-a-lago resort, that's been paid $2,300. trump's restaurants, $133,000. it goes on and on. tens of thousands to trump golf courses, thousands to trump hotels, and even $3,900 towson, eric trump's winery. altogether, it adds up to about $6.3 million. roughly 10% of trump's campaign spending is on, well, businesses run, operated by the candidate himself. donald trump has self-financed most of this campaign by loaning his campaign his own money. now, will eventually end up profiting on his campaign for president? unless he releases those tax returns way down the road, we may never know.
>> all right, drew griffin, many thanks. speaking of tax returns, mr. trump said he will not release his tax returns until the feds wrap up an audit. there is no law requiring him to wait and for decades, every presidential nominee has released their tax returns. hillary clinton is seizing on it, and stoking the suspicion he may be hiding something. >> what is he afraid of. maybe that we'll learn he hasn't paid taxes on his huge income. or maybe he isn't as rich as he claims. or that he hasn't given away as much to charity as he brags about. >> so let's talk about this, and trump's upcoming speech. errol louis is here, and political commentator and larry sabato, director for politics at the university of virginia.
welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> thank you, carol. >> so this tax issue, you know, you know what donald trump is going to say in his speech, right, errol, he is going to say you know what, when hillary releases her wall street speeches, i'll release my tax returns. is that an effective argument? >> probably for those who don't care about the issue, it will be enough to make them both seem equal. although, of course, they're not. what drew griffin reported is exactly right, which is that there are a number of important issues that people actually might care about that we'll never know about unless you see the tax returns. again, not an allegation of illegality, even coming from hillary clinton frankly, but a chance to sort of test some of the claims that he has made about how generous he is with charity, about how much income he makes and about how much he pace in taxes, you know. there are some important loopholes out there that are available to people in the real
estate industry that most folks don't know about. it has been reported. at least a number of years, he has paid or owed no taxes at all. so it is worth knowing, but he has made clear every way he can that even if he has to distract by throwing it back at hillary clinton, he doesn't want to talk about it. >> so do voters care about this, larry? >> well, they ought to. i don't know whether they do or not. but they ought to. here is why. this was one of the great precedents set by the terrible water gait scandal in the early 1970s. in fact, richard nixon was the first incumbent president to release his tax returns, because more or less he had to as a concession to those investigating him. since that time, carol, every single presidential nominee of both parties has released tax returns, sometimes many years worth of tax returns. this is absolutely essential to
the trans paparency of the campn process, and we're on the edge of having that precedent broken, and once it is broken, i guarantee you, other candidates in the future will use this precedent to keep from releasing their returns. and we'll be the poorer for it. we the people, we the voters. >> so i want to go back to hillary clinton's transcripts of her wall street speeches. is it apples and oranges? does releasing your tax returns compare to releasing transcripts of speeches you gave to wall street groups or banks? errol, i'll throw that to you. >> i think of them as fundamentally different. what you say in a speech, you know, maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. maybe it's a policy that you haven't revealed to the public, or maybe it is a twist on a policy that is a little different than what you've said to the public. that's worth knowing that transparency is important. the tax question that larry raised, not only for its
precedent setting importance, but for us to know of his many, many business interests all around the world, some of which involve foreign countries. you know, what's going on. i don't think that's an impertinent question or irrelevant question. is it possible voters will skip over it because it won't change their job outlook tomorrow or do anything for their local schools, yeah, that's very possible. so that doesn't make it any less important. >> why doesn't hillary clinton, mr. trump and say you know what, okay, i'll release my speech transcripts, now pony up. why don't she do that. >> she ought to do it. i don't think it is essential and i don't think we need necessarily a precedent that all candidates for president have to release the speech transcripts of every talk they've given. goodness knows, i feel bad for the cnn interns that have had to read them all. they're mainly boilerplate. i can guarantee you. it wasn't about the speech.
it was about bill and hillary clinton vacuuming up $153 million from special interests, from the day they got out of office right up to 2015. that is not admirable. it is also not illegal. >> i want to hone in on that, because i talked to a democratic congressman about that very issue earlier this morning, errol. he didn't seem to see any problem with that. he said other presidents after leaving off have made money, but as larry said, this is $153 million, and some of it was made by bill clinton, while hillary clinton was secretary of state. >> yeah, there is that. what was said, when was said, you know, you have to sort of layout a timeline, and see if there are any contradictions, problems or conflicts there. but no, the president said a long time ago, this first came to my attention, i remember when as an expres-president spoke to
amway, i remember thinking how unusual it was at the time, but you know, things have moved on. the reality is, for people of the clintons' caliber, giving speeches is essentially what their job is. so you or i might think maybe they're getting paid too much, but this is what they do. my guess would be, frankly, they use the same speech and repsychic many times. that may be a reason she doesn't want to see people she has given the same speech 20 times and charged an arm and leg for it. >> as i was suggesting, it is not admirable but not illegal. i have to laugh, listening to errol. he is absolutely right. we used to have standards. they're all gone. poor old harry truman had to ask congress indirectly for
presidential pension, because he wouldn't endorse products. he wouldn't take money for speeches. oh, to go back to those days, they're gone forever. former presidents and first ladies and presidential nominees will do almost anything for a buck. >> people run for office to make money now. they write books during their campaigns and have book signings. i mean, that happened. this round, right? all right, we don't have to get into that right now. >> yes. >> yes, it did. we don't have to get into that, though. errol louis, larry sabato, you're going to stake around for donald trump's speech, just under an hour. i'll expect you both back promptly. still to come in the newsroom, britain facing an historic vote, stay in the european union or go it alone. e, you have your own home. so, live there.
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an historic vote whether to remain in the european union. david cameron making his last minute push to convince voters it is more stable staying in the e.u. but opponents saying leaving would allow brits to take back their country. phil black live in london with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. it is interesting, but immigration is probably one of the key issues in this referendum question. motivating people to support the idea of leaving, britain leaving the european union. the idea that britain doesn't have control of its borders, can't decide who gets to come here and work here, and stay. it is one of the key reasons for joining the european union. it is freedom of movement. one of the rules. but the remain side of the debate, led by david cameron, argues even if there is immigration, withdrawing from the e.u. is not the way to deal with it, because it would, he argues, do enormous damage to
the economy and long-term security. that's the message out he is desperately trying to make today. take a listen. >> you've got one day left to hammer out the message, stronger, safer, better off. and as we do so, think of one word that brings it all into one, which is together, because frankly, if we want the bigger economy and more jobs, we're better if we do it together. if we want to fight climate change, we're better together. if we want to win against the terrorists, we're better if we do it together. >> reporter: the extraordinary thing here, less than a day when polling opens, and no one knows how it will turn out. it is still so incredibly tight. it is the undecided voters, obviously that will decide this. so that's who the people both campaigns are out today, really trying to appeal to. it has been a long, difficult,
often ugly campaign. there has been some nastiness in this. but what it means, because it is so close, the result is probably going to be tight. whatever the result, it is very likely that the divisions have been opened up here over the course of this campaign, well, they're not going to heal quickly, once we know who has won. carol. >> all right, phil black, reporting love in london, thank you. still to come in the "newsroom," unfavorable ratings high, but is it enough to keep clinton or trump out of the white house. the libertarians hope so.
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prime time. presidential libertarian candidate gary johnson, marking one of the highest profile moments in the party's history as he faces voters during a cnn town hall tonight. it's pretty much all thanks to donald trump. trump's rhetoric turns off some conservatives. could johnson be the alternative voters are looking for? a recent poll shows johnson with 9% support nationwide and green party nominee jill stein is pulling 7%. a candidate has to hit 15% to make the national debate stage. stein appearing on "new day" this morning. >> people are so distrusting and disliking of the two major candidates and their political parties. >> with me now is austin peterson, a former 2016 libertarian candidate for president. good morning. >> good morning, thanks for having me on. >> thanks for being here. >> what do you think viewers will learn from the libertarian town hall tonight?
>> they'll learn there's a party that represents the true broad swath of american people, people who believe in liberty by the founding fathers and limited government and constitutionalism. gary johnson represents that the best out of all candidates running and i do want to say thank you very much to cnn for having this town hall. i'm very appreciative for that. >> i want to talk more about mr. johnson's platform, he believes in small government and big on personal freedoms like legalizing marijuana and doing away with all gun laws and wants to dispose of government regulations and slash federal budgets. some of that doesn't sound too mainstream to me. how could you sell that to moderate voters out there? >> i think it's important that while the voters can understand that we may have opinions that are little outside of the mainstream, that a libertarian president would govern under the laws of the land and constitution and not overstep the powers of the executive
branch. whether they are worried about us slashing medicaid or bringing troops home immediately, the american voters do have to understand the president will obey the constitution. and gary johnson promised to do that. you have to take moderate steps towards these more radical ideas that we have but the american voters should feel comfortable with the fact that they know they have a government that lives within the confines of the constitution. >> mr. johnson wouldn't dispose of government regulations right off the bat? >> if there was an act of congress he would look at these regulations but he tends to be prudent and pragmatic, perhaps more than i am, more radical, it is important to remember if there were any regulatory bills come across governor johnson's desk that i'm confident that he would make the best decision for what's in the best interest of the american people. and some of that might entail some cuts. but the first thing you need to do is have an audit. i think governor johnson would look at auditing and finding the waste fraud and abuse and libertarians would never
endanger the national security of the american people or economic security of the american people, that comes first before ideology. >> a lot of people would quibble with bringing all of the troops home because a lot would argue you would need more troops to fight isis in iraq and syria and libya. >> sure but if they do so, they should operate constitutionally. president has limited powers of war making and congress has the power to lay down letters of mark an reprisal perhaps to deal with isis terrorists such as the way thomas jefferson handled these problems and operate -- >> thomas jefferson handled problems like isis? >> congress laid letters of mark and reprisal, this was a constitutional way for the president to deal with these kinds of problems that we face today. we've kind of abandoned that and ron paul tried to do that after 9/11 to deal with osama bin laden. we might have been able to get the bad guys faster that way. i believe president johnson
would obey the constitution. if we had troops, he would do so under a declaration of war. >> i have to end it here. many thanks. breaking news to get to. thanks for stopping by. let's go directly to capitol hill. manu raju. what do you have? -- breaking news. do we have manu? what is it? tell us. >> we're hearing from a source familiar with marco rubio's decision that he will seek re-election to his senate seat. this is a decision that he sort of reversing his pledge -- when he ran for president he said clearly i was not going to run for his senate seat. said i'll be a private citizen come january and want to focus exclusively on my presidential ambitions. after that, he dropped out of the race in mid-march, he came back to the senate and sort of dig into his work and republican leaders start to lobby him
instead because they were worried the current crop of candidates wouldn't win. that could affect the senate balance and flip to the democrats if florida does go the democrats in the fall. so we're hearing is thatrubio has made a decision and he's going to run and we can expect an announcement probably later today. so this is a big development in the race for senate and big development in marco rubio's future. he was very evasive about it and seemed torn, very difficult personal decision but seems he has made that decision and we expect to hear from him shortly. >> i can understand why it would be a difficult decision, right? he just got out of a bitter campaign for the republican nomination, right? and also, isn't one much his good friends running for his seat in florida? >> yeah, that's right, carlos lopez cantera, lieutenant government. he said he would step aside if rubio decided to run and that's what it looks like he's going to ends up doing. rubio will still have a primary
challenger. two candidates will stay in the race carlos bur ruf, self-financing this race and todd wilcox, another businessman running but beruf may cause pain for rubio but rubio will be the heavy favorite. in the general election, if democrats get their favorite candidates, pat rickmurphy, it will be a tough race. a quinnipiac poll had rubio ahead in the race against murphy but there's a lot of money -- florida is a very expensive state sean with trump at the top of the ticket who knows what will happen in florida. it's going to be a tough race for rubio but it sounds like he's ready to battle in the fall. >> i was out there during the height of senator rubio's campaign and i was at a campaign rally and very few people attended. it seemed like they were disenfranchised with their candidate and this was a rally in marco rubio's own district. so are those feelings over among
the electorate? >> that's certainly an issue going forward. he lost florida in a very resounding manner to donald trump and that was in the primary. now it's much different in the senate race dynamics are different but it's still going to be difficult. he's going to have to answer a lot of questions. will he commit to serving six years in the senate if he were to win his seat? yesterday when i asked him that in the hallways he dodged that question. maybe when i make my decision, i'll answer that question then. that's going to be a big question for him forward, will he keep that pledge? so a lot o questions that he'll have to answer as well as why he reversed his pledge to drop out and retire and become a private citizen. he missed a lot of votes and hearings. he was hit on that pretty significantly in the presidential run. probably going to be hit on it again in the senate race. so again, this is a tough race, he's a favorite but republican leaders have a reason to be happy. this gives them a very good
chance, a much better chance of holding the seat and potentially holding the senate majority. >> manu raju, breaking news, senator marco rubio is going to run again for his senate seat in the state of florida. he bowed to the pressure of friends out there in florida. we'll see what happens after the break.
good morning, i'm carol costello. we're following breaking news this morning. marco rubio will seek re-election in florida after his failed presidential bid. this comes as we follow three other major political events unfolding right now. any minute now hillary clinton will huddle with house democrats behind closed doors on capitol hill, this one day after she called trump dangerous for the u.s. economy. now trump will hit back. he is expected to issue a rebuttal later this hour. a source telling cnn trump will
tear into clinton on immigration and e-mail scandal and keeping an eye on paul ryan, he's expected to hold a news conference. will he weigh in on the war of words between trump and clinton? all right, we've got a lot to cover this morning. we're following all of this with our team of political reporters and experts. m manuraju on capitol hill. >> reporter: marco rubio reversed his decision to drop out of the senate and retire at year's end. when he ran for president he made very clear he was going to be a private citizen come january, if he did not win the white house. that's something he said hundreds of times on the campaign trail. he has come under unrelenting pressure from republican leaders here on capitol hill since he dropped out of that presidential race saying that you're the only one who can keep the seat for the republicans. this is a critical seat and very
expensive state at a time when the senate majority could easily flip to the democrats if florida goes to the democrats, that is something he has heard increasingly in the last three weeks in particular. so marco rubio went home, talked about it with his family over the weekend. what we're told from a source familiar with marco rubio's decision that he is going to jump back in the race and run for the senate. a big decision that has major implications for control of the senate, for the florida senate seat and for frankly marco rubio's own political career. he's still young and has a chance potentially one day to run for president again. if he wants to, which i'm told he certainly does. so how that impacts will be interesting to shake out. democrats have told me they are prepared for this race. they spent a lot of money against marco rubio for one big reason. they believe they knock him out in november potentially takes him off the table for being president ever in having a chance to win the white house. this is going to be intense
focus over the next several months as marco rubio making a major decision that will shake up the race for the senate later this fall. >> it's been an amazing political season i'll tell you that. you're on capitol hill to talk about hillary clinton because she's going to meet with democratic house members for sort of a political pep rally of sorts. >> yeah, that's right. as we were expecting here momentarily, we have not seen secretary clinton yet but we heard she may be stuck in traffic if you can believe it. she's going to be here and house democrats are gathering here. it isn't going to be a pep rally, only nine house democrats actually got behind bernie sanders in the primary season. since then a number conceded she's the nominee and are willing to back her. they are trying to show in some ways a contrast with donald trump who's having a hard time getting republicans behind him on july 7th, a little different atmosphere than here. probably be pretty festive
atmosphere. we'll see if she takes questions from lawmakers. if any of those are contentious it will be interesting to hear. >> reporting live from capitol hill, thanks so much from donald trul p. we are await gs to hear from donald trump. he's expected to deliver a scathing response to hillary clinton. all part of a strategy to reboot his campaign and reset the narrative. let's talk about that with sara murray, she's at the place trump is expected to speak in just about 25 minutes. hi, sara. >> reporter: good morning, you're absolutely right. this is a chance for donald trump to turn the page. he fired his campaign manager and posted dismal fund raising managers and said it's time to go in a different direction. he does have teleprompters set up for this address and they are billing this as a way to take on hillary clinton and list what they perceive is her faults and things that disqualify her from
the presidency. we heard they're going to go everything from her substance on immigration and e-mail scandal and setting up the ideas that the clintons used the state department as their own piggy banks and pay to play scandals going on. as for the clinton campaign, they are already preparing rebuttal, recycled attacks and they are base less. this is an opportunity to make the case to his fellow republicans that he's the one that can hold hillary clinton's feet to the fire and they should rally behind him because he can prosecute this case against her in the general election and fall. this is coming as you know when a lot of republicans are skeptical whether donald trump can put out the win against hillary clinton in november. i think today will give us a good preview of that. >> sara murray reporting live from new york city. thank you very much. i want to check back on capitol hill because paul ryan has started his weekly news conference and when he gets to the question and answer part,
we'll bring you back there. we expect him to take some questions about donald trump and specifically fund raising and whether house speaker ryan will fund raise for mr. trump. let me bring in my political panel. hillary clinton supporter hillary rosen and cnn political comment ators and former communications director for ted cruz, alice stewart. welcome to all of you. >> good morning. >> hillary, i'll start with you hillary clinton is stuck in traffic but she's going to meet with democratic raw ma iic lawm soon. why is this important? >> first, welcome to washington with the traffic. but this meeting has become more exciting for house democrats than a typical nominee coming to the hill because donald trump is so unpopular in so many swing districts across the country that the house members i talked to including nancy pelosi are starting to feel like actually we -- democrats could retake the
house this year. that's high bad republicans are looking in some of these key districts. hillary clinton running a strong campaign, running a campaign in lock step with a lot of these house members is going to be more important than ever. i think you'll see a huge amount of enthusiasm for her, not just as the first woman nominee, somebody that a lot of them know very well but actually somebody who can really make a difference in turning over the congress. >> let's talk about turning over congress for a second. on the senate side, marco rubio has decided to run for re-election. how much does that have to do with donald trump? >> a lot. republicans are very nervous about having donald trump at the top of the ticket, retaining the senate. is looking tough especially for people like pat toomey and kelly ayotte. florida is a swing state and republicans have a much better chance with marco rubio running
for senate in a general election of holding that seat. now, i think it's a lot of risk and very little reward as manu pointed out, if marco rubio doesn't win this race, he's pretty banged up. that doesn't mean he can't recover and run for president one day but that's not really the way you want to go out. i think you could make the argument that becoming a private citizen for a term working in the private sector for a term, staying out of the mess of the senate could position him better for a future run. but if he can pull this off and save florida for republicans, the senate seat for republicans, then he's something of a hero in the next six-year term or four or three-year term if he decides to run for president in three years. >> interesting. ali alice, was it the quinnipiac poll -- i'm asking my ep -- i think it was quinnipiac that
came out yesterday, hillary clinton is way ahead in florida by 6 to 9 points, is that correct? so alice, that has to worry republicans, right? so hence please senator rubio run. >> so i think marco rubio has been struggling with this decision but what we're going to see is a concentrated effort on the part of the gop, probably hear paul ryan talk about that right now from the rnc headquarters. there's going to be a concentrated effect not just for bringing voters out for the presidential race but down ballot and governor and statewide races. but here's the focus. a lot of polls right now, it's so far out. they are not significant. what we're seeing now with the shuffling and trump campaign being able to pivot from the primary campaign where he was attacking republicans and the house -- you know, the former candidates and his challengers, now he's shifting as we're going to see today in this speech,
shifting his focus and prosecuting his case against hillary clinton and also barack obama. that's going to be a huge difference. that's where we're going to see a lot of these statewide numbers and these polls tighten up quite a bit. it's taken a while to get here, no mistaking that. but the pivot now from the primary race that the trump campaign has been doing to now the general will make a big difference. as we get closer to convention and without a doubt as we get to debates, things will certainly tight rnen up. >> i want to talk about mr. trump's speech as we await hillary clinton's arrival at the democratic caucus. mr. trump is expected to give a no holds barred speech attacking his economic policy and if my viewers miss the speech, here's an example. >> just imagine, if you can, donald trump, sitting in the oval office the next time america faces a crisis.
imagine him being in charge when your jobs and savings are at stake. is this who you want to lead us in an emergency? someone thin skinned and quick to anger? >> my question to you, does trump run the risk of looking like a thin skinned bully if he hits back too hard? >> well, that hasn't been a problem for him thus far. look, it's anyone's guess what he's going to do today. he was just two days ago criticizing hillary clinton for using a prompter and script for her speeches and promising to continue to be himself on the campaign trail. as sara murray pointed out teleprompter is set up at his speech. i'm not really sure he knows which way to go. he signaled he was changing tone with the firing of corey lewandowski but promising to be himself yesterday after her
economic speech, my e-mail lit up, ping ping ping from the donald trump campaign hitting hillary on various economic issues. if he sticks to those attacks today, they would be very effective. as we know, he has a tendency to leave page and veer off into inclement weather and the news cycle becomes not beneficial to his campaign. it's all in his hands. this is all up to trump. we'll see today whether he does take a change in tact. >> we'll see. so hillary, mr. trump will probably bring up issues that mrs. clinton ought to answer for, those surrounding the clinton foundation like contributions from countries with human rights violations like saudi arabia and kuwait and others. clinton knows that. they fired off e-mails to the press detailing where the money goes from the clinton foundation. those attacks on mrs. clinton
could be quite effective, right? >> i don't think those attacks are going to mean much. when hillary clinton was secretary of state, there was no stronger advocate for women's rights and human rights and for being aggressive with countries that did not treat their people well. i just think those attacks will fall flat. the key issue for donald trump is going to be what is his positive image -- his positive view on the economy to create jobs, to help people's own pocket books. what hillary clinton laid out yesterday was scathing in terms of how he consistently enriched himself when he does his business dealings, no matter the consequences. when companies go bankrupt in atlantic city, it's the construction workers who don't get paid and small businesses who don't get paid. so trump has to convince people that he actually is going to look out for them and not just for himself. i think that's going to be his
biggest economic challenge in this. >> here's the problem. he calls -- mr. trump will call it blood money, this money coming from places like saudi arabia into the clinton global foundation but trump has business ties to dubai and other middle east countries. doesn't that sort of -- doesn't it cancel each other out? >> not at all. when hillary clinton is talking about how she is a champion for women and women's rights and also the lgbt community -- >> he says that too, he's a champion for women. >> the clinton foundation is known to have taken millions of dollars from countries that have led atrocities against women and those in the lgbt community. >> how is that different from having business ties and profiting from them personally? >> not to mention the fact that the clinton foundation there are at least 1,000 donors we have -- the source of the income and what the money was used for. yes, using -- going to these
foreign countries and having them donate to the clinton foundation was a money laundering scheme certainly for the clintons and it does needs to be exposed. not to mention the fact we're going to hear today not just the follow the money trail of the clintons but her involvement with the private e-mail server is something that certainly does need to be exposed. also, the clinton foundation and clinton campaign every time people mention benghazi. that is an important part of her so-called legacy -- >> i want to stop you right now, everyone and watch as hillary clinton walks in to meet with the democratic caucus. she's beside nancy pelosi, who invited her to this caucus. i talked earlier to a democratic congressman brad sherman who said this is certainly going to be sort of a pep rally for democrats. hillary, can you get more into what will happen behind that closed door we just saw?
>> nancy pelosi has got a strong hold on that democratic caucus. people trust her from a policy and political perspective. she and hillary clinton have developed a very close relationship over the last several years. i think what you're going to find is some good calculating political advice as to how to run in some of the centrist communities. hillary clinton has come out of a primary that where she really appealed to progressives but a lot of these districts that are going to need to be turned over in the congress are more centrist democrats. they are looking for some pro-growth comments and looking for pro-growth strategies and looking in some cases for pro business comments. i think you'll find a lot of advice for hillary about how to run in those centrist part of the countries that will help turn over the congress.
and that's going to be a huge opportunity for hillary clinton to broaden this base and to bring this party together back to the best way to defeat the republicans. >> all right, i'm going to leave this conversation. thanks to all of you for joining me. i want to go back to capitol hill and paul ryan, the house speaker. he's meeting for the gop weekly press conference. he's taking questions. we're monitoring this and we'll bring you back there and of course waiting for donald trump to begin speaking in just about ten minutes. i'll be right back.
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share his plans for the u.s. economy and especially his plans for the middle class and blue collar america. so let's discuss this now. i want to bring in dana bash, our chief political correspondent and erol lewis, cnn political commentator and editor of time warner cable news and welcome to all of you and thank you for standing by. dana, set the scene. >> reporter: well, this is i think quite a typical kind of trump event. it's at one of his own properties, trump soho, his name licensed on it. he has a front row full of supporters and back full of reporters. but the name of the game today for donald trump is to change the discussion away from the fact that he hasn't raised not only enough money but barely any
money so far away from the fact that his staff is is not the way it needs to be and he needs to ramp it up and had to fire his campaign manager and maybe more importantly, a with a from the things that he has been saying over the past couple of weeks that has really led the political discussion and it has not been a positive one for him. it's been about redoubling his muslim ban and him going after a judge that is in -- overseeing his trump university fraud case. instead today what i'm told is he's going to take aim at hillary clinton. this is going to be all about kind of refocusing his message on the number one target, obviously in this political campaign but also the one that really unites republicans more than anything else. that is hillary clinton. i'm told he's going to be specific about going after her
on not just the e-mail issue but on money given to the clinton foundation, accusing her of taking blood money and accusing her of having ethical issues, vis a vis being at the state department and president clinton giving paid speeches and talk about the issues that propelled him in the primary, immigration, and trade is a big one he'll go after her on. much like bernie sanders did in the democratic primary process, saying she has been supportive of the kind of trade deals that have hurt america workers. >> so jeff, is this what we can expect through november? one candidates gives an attack speech and the other and then the other givers an attack speech? >> it absolutely is to be frank about it. beyond looking at the attack speeches, i was in columbus,
ohio yesterday at the clinton speech and dana is absolutely correct about trade. that is one of the issues that worries a lot of democrats i talked and the clinton campaign, nafta, still arguing that decades after it was signed into law. that's why she was trying to go directly at donald trump's own records and does his record and policies meet with what he's done. and we heard the speech as she ticked through the list of places around this globe where his products are made. he talks a lot about america first and a lot about the down sides of outsourcing. well, she branded him yesterday as a key outsourcer on his products here. she's trying to get that point home in ohio particularly. but look, the clinton campaign is -- she'll be giving a speech later today in north carolina, part two of her speech. she's going to say exactly what she would you do for the economy. that's the issue here.
they can't spend the next four and a half months just sort of yelling at each other. voters want to hear them say what they would do. so we'll see how much of that actually comes out today from the trump speech -- >> here's the thing, larry, people have pretty much made up their minds. both candidates have problems and both are unlikeable and voters have shown that in poll after poll. only 22% would change their mind about who they would vote for president. exactly how is this helping either candidate, larry? >> well, it's continuing to harden the unfavorables for both sides. with respect to jeff, i think his proposition they can't spend the next four months attacking one another will be tested sorely. that's exactly what both of them intend to do. they know it's very difficult and very expensive to reduce your own unfavorables. it makes much more sense to go
after the other candidates unfavorables and let's be honest, they have loads of material. >> oh, my gosh. so here's the thing, on one hand he says i might be open to raising the minimum wage then backtracks on it. then what he said about the national debt, which nobody quite understood what the heck he was talking about. wouldn't be it behoof him to outline exactly what he would do to help the u.s. economy and why his background as a businessman will help? >> it's not a bad idea. that depends though, carol, whether or not what trump wants to do is to find persuadable uncommitted voters, especially in swing states and independents or even democrats and appeal to them. this is the pivot everybody keeps talking about under classical sort of political strategy, that's what he would be doing 24 hours a day right
about now. trump has though yet to do that. in a lot of ways he's going to be tempted and the speech will put it to the test to throw more red meat to the conservative base already committed to him and come out to vote for him and that already reside in red states that the democrats aren't going to seriously contest. if he does that latter strategy, which is really what he's been doing up until now, it would be a wasted opportunity. i don't know if you need to tell hard core conservatives in alabama one more time that hillary clinton has some negative qualities. they are not going to vote for her. she's not going to win that state. everybody knows that. if donald trump wants to talk to persuadable middle of the road voters in pennsylvania and wisconsin, the fact he's in soho today doesn't mean anything. if we can hear he's aiming his message at persuadable voters and trying to shake their faith in her, maybe sort of raise important questions that clinton has not answered without the
hyperbole and bombast and personal insults. >> i want to ask dana bash about that. if donald trump goes too far and talks about how hillary clinton should go to prison, could that back fire with those middle of the road voters? >> reporter: it could. but i think erol is exactly right. the question in this campaign is going to be -- i'm just talking tactically and the message is based on those tactics is whether or not there are more sort of base republicans that donald trump can bring his way that can get out and vote and we know that is true for hillary clinton because she was running in a very competitive democratic primary race so they believe they can kind of galvanize their base and get their numbers up. but the question is, what some democrats we talked to think is about 20% what they call
persuadable voters. those who are just not sure which way to go, whether it's because they think it's the lesser of two evils or whether they are genuinely not sure what to do. so i think what you're going to hear in just a few minutes behind me is donald trump try to make the case that hillary clinton is somebody who can't be trusted and her high negatives on this issue. he's going to use the word corrupt or suggest that she is corrupt in a whole host of issues again, feeding into the trust worthiness question that makes people think twice about her according to polls and our poll that came out yesterday. and that it's going to be up against what you heard hillary clinton do yesterday in her speech on the economy and certainly the big speech she gave on foreign policy was all about can you really trust this guy. do you really want this guy to be in the white house? so that is kind of the choice that each of these campaigns is
beginning to draw for voters because it is going to be a choice. yes, people who are really disgusted can vote for the libertarian candidates or green party candidates but for those who want to vote for a democrat or republican, these are the big themes that are being framed, i think really by the end of this week. >> so i do notice a teleprompter set up there, dana. who wrote the speech? >> reporter: you know, there's usually a team of people who do. they are very careful about saying exactly who wrote it. i know that steven miller, who is a policy adviser was involved in the speech. i can't say he actually wrote it. but there's no question this is going to be a very carefully, very well prepared speech and it's something that he's done now several times when he wants to get his message across. i think no other time in his
campaign is it more important than right now when he's really trying to prove it is a different kind of campaign. he has a message that is clear and that is going to again show republicans this is -- as much as it is as i mentioned about telling persuadable voters that hillary clinton can't be trusted. it's about signaling to the donor class and republican leaders that he's got his act together now and focusing where he needs to focus, which is on his political opponent. >> jeff, what does mr. trump need to say to appeal to donors in this speech besides attacking hillary clinton? >> well, carol, i think it's a lot of republican donors and republican establishment members want to see a degree of seriousness from donald trump. they do want to see him as dana said earlier change the conversation away from his own internal issues happening there inside his office building to talk about how he's going to prosecute the this case and
remind voters that of all of the negatives of the clinton campaign. but i think that more than that, i think donors want to see donald trump working harder. i here that a lot. some wonder why he is in new york city giving the speech. is he missing an opportunity to not be in a swing state. when you give a speech in the middle of a swing state as the clinton campaign did yesterday in columbus, ohio, it is wall to wall local news coverage. they want to see if donald trump is going to campaign harder than he did during the primary in some respects of flying in -- >> jeff, don't you need money for that? >> sure you need money but that's something he could afford himself. he said he's willing to put in maybe $50 million. he can fuel up his airplane and fly to ohio for that, certainly, so i think more money will come in if they see he is willing to expend the effort here and
willing to take a more serious tone to his campaign and sort of drop all the attacks against judges and other things. i think we'll see once again today if donald trump is more serious, going to give a presidential like address or if he's not. >> do you think mr. trump will stick to the script and read from the teleprompter and no ad lib the sides? >> i would never bet on that. the fact that there's a teleprompter there tells you there is at least a script that has been reviewed by people who have political instincts but he usually parts at some point from the script and that's where most of the car crashes occur. so sometimes they are fender benders and other times they have iffatalities to add one otr comment, trump's real problem with the donors has nothing to do with what he's saying about
hillary clinton or himself. it has to do with the fact that even senior republicans do not believe he's going to win. and i mean really senior republicans that the big donors who have loads of cash listen to. and if he can ever convince them that he's going to win via the public opinion polls, then the wallets and pocketbooks may open for him. until then, no. >> so what does he need to do? does he need one goal poll? >> no, he needs a series, a good convention that will give him a big bounce and wouldn't be completely trounced by the bounce that comes out of the democratic convention. the real way to test what the november election is looking like is about two weeks after both conventions, that's when polls really start to matter. that's when donors can pony up or not. >> dana, i was interested. who's in the audience and listening to the speech in
person? >> reporter: well, the front of the room or it seems to be some friends and business men and associates. i bumped into his political advisers coming in here. i saw at least one of his children. i'm guessing most if not all of them will be here today. but it's mostly reporters. it is mostly reporters here who have come. i think as is typical for a trump event. >> it is interesting his children are going to be there. is that another sign they are taking over their father's campaign? >> no, i don't think so in this case. his children are -- have been present with him really along the way, particularly obviously his grown sons and his daughter obviously she just gave birth to her third child but especially when it's local like this. they tend to be around quite a bit. >> i hear them telling people
turn off cell phones so we must be getting close, right, dana? >> reporter: it sounds that way. we don't get the traditional two-minute warning but i think it will be pretty clear when mr. trump walks in. >> i'll look away to look closer at the picture here. so i'm going to let dana go sit down so she can listen to mr. trump's speech and address my next question to you, jeff zeleny. how do you think mr. trump will open the speech? will he come out and hit hard? >> we'll have to wait and see what he says, but i expect a little bit of a different tone from him than we have been hearing in a lot of these speeches. we see the teleprompter there and talking about that. this means it is a planned speech. i think he will start it and really giving the tone of trying to change the subject here. but you can bet that he's going to go after hillary clinton as hard as he does in his tweets, he's be speaking here. the bigger question is how are
republicans going to react? are they going to give him a second chance? a lot of polls that came out this week, some republicans were heartened by the fact that he was only behind some five points or so and the fact some battle ground states like ohio and pennsylvania that he was tied. that gives them the opportunity to make his case here but it's impossible to predict exactly what he will -- how he'll open or talk. i think it is a different moment in his campaign. we saw yesterday it was the most professal day of the trump campaign, sending out news releases and other things. i think today will be a presidential moment for donald trump, more than a prime time speech moment for donald trump. >> i was a little surprised by the poll numbers in ohio that hillary clinton and donald trump were running neck and neck. mr. trump lost ohio. >> carol, i'll be very blunt with you. i don't believe those poll numbers.
they make no sense. the national polling averages, one of the averages has clinton up six points nationally, the other average some very good polls, including your own cnn poll have clinton up 8 points nationally. if clinton is up either six or eight points nationally there is zero -- and i mean zero chance that ohio and pennsylvania, even more democratic, are tie. it's just simply not happening. it's not possible. it is not true. so there would have to be a series of polls confirming the quinnipiac polls and i don't see that. >> i'm asking you that because john kasich is a very popular governor in the state of ohio. i find it difficult to believe that john kasich wouldn't hold some sway. >> well, he's not been very friendly to donald trump and indicated he's struggling whether he should even endorse
him. if he's true to his word, there's almost no chance he would be the vice presidential nominee. and that would be the way you could swing ohio if indeed there is a way for trump to swing ohio. >> why don't you believe the polls in pennsylvania? >> because pennsylvania since 1988 has voted consistently beginning in 1992 for democratic presidential nominees. while it isn't the most democratic northeast state by a mile, it is consistently 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 points democratic. it takes a lot to flip that around in an election where clinton is leading nationally in virtually every reliable national poll. >> so in florida, there was a poll that had clinton nine points ahead of mr. trump. is that poll believable? >> no, i think that was quinnipiac too. i don't think she's ahead by nearly that much in florida.
florida was extremely close in 2000. it was reasonably close in 2004 and very close in 2008 and 2012. i could see where she could have a lead of three or four, maybe even five points but getting up to the upper single digits, sorry. people takes these numbers too seriously and think they were carved in stone on the mount. they were not. they are relatively small samples and they have much larger margins of error than the pollsters let on. >> i want to talk about marco rubio because he has decided to run for re-election and how much of that was because of the trump effect? >> i think carol this is about marco rubio's future. he knows if he wants to have a role going forward perhaps running for president again in 2020, if that position would be available or again in 2024 he has to be in the arena.
i was talking to one of the top donors this morning and they are not sure how successful he will be actually but it will be entirely virtually impossible for him to be a player from outside the arena. we've seen that time and time again. you have to strike while the iron is hot. for him it has cold but if leaves the senate it would be difficult to come back. we talk about the florida numbers there. that is so key for marco rubio. will donald trump drag him down? marco rubio is going to have to -- if he wins the primary in august, he has to find people voting for hillary clinton and marco rubio. it's a tough needle to thread there but we are going to see more and more of this argument coming from republicans. yes, hillary clinton may win. some people are afraid she will, some republicans. that's why the senate needs to stay in republican hands here. that's the argument marco rubio is going to make if he gets to
the primary here. i think that one of the bigger issues for him, he talks so much about how he didn't like the senate, on record. you can see these tv ads that are coming for him here about how he did not show up for intelligence committee briefings and other things. he's going to have to take that on and say he's going to double down and wants to fight hard for florida in the u.s. senate. >> the problem with that, larry, marco rubio to me looks beleaguered and not exactly enthusiastic. >> i'm very surprised he decided to run again. jeff cited some of the reasons why but he is not the master of his own fate, at least not in whole this november. he was slaughtered in the primary in his own state by donald trump and that's republicans voting. and now ironically, he could be severely damaged by donald trump losing florida in november. and i think people will be
surprised there's going to be a lot more straight ticket voting in many of these states with key senate races than perhaps people have been used to. >> interesting. so jeff, hillary clinton is with the democratic caucus right now sort of a pep rally. she was invited there by nancy pelosi. we just got word from from the hill team that clinton is stressing unity and promised to down ticket a 50 state strategy and it's possible democrats could flip north carolina and win a senate seat. there's even talk of democrats winning back the house. is that possible? >> i think any talk of democrats win the back the house is heard only inside a house democratic meeting. that's simply -- the math is very difficult for that. and democrats know that. what they can do is close the majority on all of this. the reason hillary clinton is in that room today, first and foremost after she was in ohio
she flew back here to washington to have a fundraiser for house and senate democrats to show these fully on board. she wants to make sure that all of the progressive and liberal members of the house democratic conference are on board with her. there are bernie sanders supporters out there and people out there who don't think she's been quite sufficiently progressive. she wants to bring everyone together here. in terms of north carolina, democrats absolutely believe north carolina is in play. here's why. in 2008, president obama won north carolina and turned it blue and lost it in 2012. it's one of the few states that actually flipped. the clinton campaign wants to bring it back into democratic hands and why she's flying there this afternoon to give part two of her economic speech. that gets back to my point of why donald trump is giving this speech in new york city, missing an opportunity to be in the battleground state to be giving this message, but the democrats
are a, trying to win the senate majority, first and foremost and shrink -- but democrats are not going to win back the house. >> we just saw donald trump's children entering the room, paul manafort, donald trump's new campaign manager. we expect donald trump to get behind that podium at any moment and he will because the crowd is standing up and clapping. let's listen. [ applause ] >> thank you. thank you very much, everybody. today i'd like to share my thoughts about the stakes in this upcoming and very important election. people asked me why i'm running for president. i built an amazing business i
love and get to work side by side with my children every single day. we come to work together and turn visions into reality. we think big and then we make it happen. we absolutely make it happen. i love what i do and i'm grateful beyond words to the nation that has allowed me to do it. so when people ask me, why i am running i very quickly answer, i'm running to give back to this country which has been so very good to me. [ applause ] >> when i see the crumbling roads and bridges or dilapidated airports or factories moving overseas to mexico or other countries for that matter, i
know these problems can all be fixed but not by hillary clinton. only by me. [ applause ] the fact is we can come back bigger and better and stronger than ever before. jobs, jobs, jobs. [ applause [ applause ] everywhere i look i see the possibility our country can be but we can't solve any of these problems by relying on politicians who created the problems themselves. we'll never be able to fix a rigged system by counting on the same people who have rigged it in the first place. [ applause ] >> the insiders wrote the rules of the game to keep themselves
in power and in money. that's why we're asking bernie sanders voters to join our movement so together we can fix the system for all americans so important. [ applause ] this includes fixing all of our many disastrous trade deals and they are disastrous and destroying our country. because it's not just the political system that's rigged, it's the whole economy. [ applause ] >> rigged by big donors who want to fire our workers and sell their products back into the united states with absolutely no consequences for them. it's rigged by bureaucrats who are trapping kids in failing schools. it's rigged against you, the
american people. hillary clinton and as you know, she -- most people know, she's a world class liar, just look at her pathetic e-mail server statements or her phony landing. or phony landing in bosnia where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers, a total -- look, this was one of the beauts, a self-serving lie. brian williams career was destroyed for saying less, remember that. yesterday she even tried to attack me and my many businesses. but here and this is the way it is, the bottom line. i started off in brooklyn, new york. not so long ago with a small
loan and built a business that today is worth well over $10 billion. [ applause ] that's the kind of thinking we need in our leadership of our country. i've always had a talent for building businesses and importantly for creating jobs. that's a talent our country desperately needs. i'm running for president to end the unfairness and put you the american worker first. it's about time. [ applause ] we're going to put america first and we're going to make america great again. this election will decide whether we're ruled by the people or by the politicians. [ applause ]
here's my promise to the american voter. if i'm elected president, i will end the special interest monopoly in washington, d.c. the other candidate in this race has spent her entire life making money for special interests and made plenty of money for them and been taking plenty of money out for herself. hillary clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and even theft. she ran the state department like her own personal hedge fund doing favors for oppressive regimes and many others and really many many others in exchange for cash, pure and simple, folks. pure and simple. [ applause ] then when she left, she made $21.6 million giving speeches to wall street banks and other
special interests and in less than two years secret speeches that she does not want to reveal under any circumstances to the public. i wonder why. together she and bill made $153 million giving speeches to lobbyists, ceos and foreign governments in the years since 2001. they totally own her and that will never ever change, including if she ever became president. god help us. [ applause ] the choice in this election is a choice between taking our government back from the special interests or surrendering really the last scrap of independence to the total and complete control of people like the clintons. those are the stakes.
hillary clinton wants to be president. but she doesn't have the temperament and or as bernie sanders said, very strongly, the judgment to be president. she does not have the judgment. she believes -- [ applause ] she believes she's
entitled to the office. her campaign slogan is i'm with her. you know what my response is to that? i'm with you, the american people. [ applause ] thank you very much. she thinks it's all about her. i know it's all about you. i know it's all about making america great again for all
americans, all americans. our country lost its way when it stopped putting the american people really first. we have to go back to putting our american people first. we got here because we switched from a policy of americanism, focusing on what's good for america's middle class, to a policy of globalism, focusing on how to make money for large corporations who can move wealth and workers to foreign countries, all to the detriment of the american worker and the american economy itself. we reward companies for offshoring and we punish companies for doing business in america and keeping our workers employed. they get punished. this is not a rising tide that lifts all boats. this is a wave of globalism that wipes out our middle class and our jobs along with it.
we need reform and we have to reform our economic system so that once again we can all succeed together and america can become rich again. we have to make america rich again. [ applause ] and that's what i mean by america first. our country will be better off when we start making our own products again, bringing our once great manufacturing capabilities back to the shores. we have to bring our manufacturers back to the united states, desperately needed. december sprsperately we need t and need it even for our psyche. one of the really great things and first major bills that george washington signed was amazing when i saw this for the first time, the encouragement
and protection of manufacturing in america. our first republican president, abraham lincoln warned us by saying, the abandonment of the protective policy by the american government will produce want and ruin among our people. in other words, we have to protect our country. i have decided and visited cities and towns across america all across america and seen the devastation caused by the trade policies of bill and hillary clinton and it's total devastation all over new york and all over pennsylvania, all over new england and all over the country. hillary clinton supported bill clinton's disastrous and totally disastrous nafta, like she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. we've lost nearly one third of our manufacturing jobs since these two hillary backed
agreements were signed. among the worst we've ever done, among the most destructive agreements we've ever signed. our trade deficit with china soared 40% during hillary clinton's time as secretary of state. a disgraceful performance for which she should not be congratulated but rather scorned. then she left china -- [ applause ] >> so true. then she left china and what happened is billions and billions of dollars in our intellectual property and china has taken it. and it's a crime which is continuously going on and it's going on right now. they are stealing billions and billions of dollars of our intellectual property. hillary clinton gave china millions of jobs and our best jobs and effectively let china
completely rebuild itself. in return, hillary clinton got rich. the book clinton cash documents how bill and hillary used the state department to enrich their family at america's expense. she gets rich making you poor. [ applause ] here's a quote from the book. at the center of the u.s. policy towards china was hillary clinton. at this critical time for u.s. china relations bill clinton gave a number of speeches that were underwritten by the chinese government and its supporters. these funds were paid to the clinton's bank account directly while hillary was negotiating with china on behalf of the united states. tell me, folks, does that work? she sold out our workers and our
country for beijing. hillary clinton has also been the biggest promoter of the transpacific partnership, which will ship millions more of our jobs overseas and give up congressional power to an international foreign commission. now because i have pointed out why it would be such a disastrous deal, she's pretending she's against it. she's given and deleted as you know, most people have heard about this, have we ever heard about her deleting anything? no, i don't think so. she deleted the entire record from her book and deletion is something she really does know something about because she's deleted at least 30,000 e-mails, which by the way should be able to be found. [ applause ] should be able to be found because the government -- i will say -- i've always heard you can never really delete an e-mail. it should be able