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now to come and talk to us. we will move what we felt we had to do and remove what i call the spirit of history to find a way to get in the way. >> congressman john lewis, thanks so much for joining us. appreciate your joining us here on cnn. we'll continue to follow this dramatic development in the house of representatives. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. the news continues now right now right here on cnn. wolf, thank you, sir. i'm brooke baldwin. i'll pick it up in the very same spot. the tears still fresh, funerals still going and now the calls for a revolt growing louder. right now an absolutely extraordinary moment unfolding on capitol hill. dozens of members of congress staging a sit-in on the house floor, angry about the gun violence sweeping the nation just ten days after the orlando
attack. they are demanding a vote on gun control. a team of democrats led by georgia congressman john lewis, the civil rights icon delivering an impassioned speech. >> mr. speaker, i would ask that all of my colleagues join me on the floor. i wonder what would bring this body to take action? what would finally make congress do what is right, what is just, what the people of this country have been demanding and what is long overdue? we have laws, hundreds and thousands of innocent people to gun violence, tiny little children. we can no longer wait. we can no longer be patient, so today we come to the well of the house to dramatize the need for
action, not next month, not next year, but now! today! we have to occupy the floor of the house until there is action. rise up, democrats. rise up, americans. this cannot stand. we will occupy this floor. we will no longer be denied a right to vote. >> and then the members started to tweet, tweeting out photos, showing their solidarity, showing their defiance, one after another using th the #nogoodno break an and #silencenomore. let's again with manu raju.
seeing the legendary john lewis who marched with dr. martin luther king sitting on the floor on capitol hill for this. >> yeah, and leading the house in protest, too, brooke. there was a number of chants chanting to demand action on the legislation. a number of thing they have been chanting, no bill no, break. that's what members of congress are saying. i'm sick and tired of being sick and tired and we shall not be moved and because they are not moving they are disrupting the order of the house, disrupting business in the house. house republicans wanted to move forward with a series of votes and they have not been able to do that. in fact, they came into session around noon today and had to quickly gavel out which is the house is out of order which is why we're not seeing video or anything on tv of what's happening on the floor because technically they are in a recess. what republicans will do next remains to be seen, but they could presumably turn the lights off on the chamber and sort of force democrats to leave, but what they are demanding are votes on expanding background
checks and this dispute between house -- between democrats and republicans over how to deny suspected terrorists the right to purchase firearms and how to define who those terrorists actually are. now, on the terrorist issue, there is a bill in the senate from susan collins of maine who is trying to push a compromise on this issue, but we're seeing concerns from the right, from the nra, who thinks that it actually raises some constitutional concerns, and we're hearing that republican leaders want to have a vote on that pretty quickly, possibly this week, but it will probably fail and lead to more theatrics and protests like we're seeing today. >> quickly, manu, just, you know, when is the last time you saw something like this happening? wasn't it the republicans staging a sit-in and the democrats flipped the lights how the? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. when house speaker nancy pelosi was in charge. chamber and the republicans did the same thing, not wanting to break and wanted to demand a vote and staging the sit-in and democrats turned the lights off and eventually republicans left, so clearly democrats believe
they have an advantage on this issue which is why they are mounting and doing things like this, staging this protest on the house floor and last week launching that 15-hour filibuster on the senate floor. brooke? >> we rely on twitter photos andpayer scope. welcome to 2015 with the cameras off. manu, thank you so much. i know you've got a big interview coming up next hour. we'll check in with you again. meantime, the white house is reacting to today's sit-in president obama taking to twitter as well. thank you, john lewis, for leading on gun violence where we need it most. one of those taking part in the protest today is democratic congressman john yarmouth and also joining me is republican congressman david jolley who introduced a gun control compromise bill yesterday. gentlemen, welcome. >> good to be with you. >> congressman yarmouth, i know you were part of the sit-in and it's tricky because apparently when you walk out you may not be able to rejoin them so thanks for taking a minute with me. whose idea was this to actually sit down in the well?
>> well, it started actually on monday night. john larson of connecticut and katherine clark from massachusetts and john lewis started reaching out to members they thought might want to participate, and we actually had a meeting last night to kind of play out the scenario and figure out the logistics, so it -- it's pretty much an organic thing. this morning in our democratic caucus meeting leader pelosi talked about what we were doing and gave her implicit blessing to it and this encouraged a lot of other members to join in, so at one point i think we probably had about 70, 75 democrats sitting and standing in the well of the house and with the passion that you heard from john lewis. that was reflected in -- throughout the caucus, so we're prepared to be there for the duration. we go on break supposedly friday afternoon for next week, and -- and we're prepared to -- to do this until friday, and that's --
that's the derivation. no bill, no break chant. >> all right. so you're prepared to continue sitting. dozens have joined in as you pointed out. congressman jolley, before we get to the substance and i think you two are sort of on the same page, what do you just as a republican make of what's happening in the well? >> so, brooke, i don't question the conviction of my democratic colleagues. i'm not sure i agree with their tactics. i will tell you we have to be very careful. i left florida after orlando, a state that was united in mourning and quickly came to a congress divided. it's not helpful on either side of the aisle to cast blame and yell shame and accuse others of being complicit in mass shootings in american history. i don't know that i agree with the democratic tactics, but i'll tell you i'm somebody who says let's open the floor of the house and have the debate. i gave a speech this morning as soon as we opened before the democratic sit-in and i said here's why i disagree with the democratic proposal. here's what i've offered that would provide no fly no buy and provide due process and second amendment protections for
law-abiding citizens. if that's not the answer, help mean prove it and let's get to a consensus here. my fear the politics of blame play well in november and the architects of failure see political currency in this in november. the tone is important. let's work together on both sides of the aisle. no fly, no buy but protect the second amendment and due process. >> let me just stop you a minute back. you don't agree with the tactics. we know what's happening on the senate side. we know that nothing is really happening. we're waiting for susan collins' measure to be introduced. on your side though nothing has happened, especially in the wake of orlando. i was down there as well so what's wrong with being a little dramatic? >> so, brooke, inaction is wrong which is why as a republican i've introduced a compromise hill, hr 2k5sh 544 that says no fly no buy but you're entitled to a due process hearing within days if you're declined at the purchase of a firearm. i think we can get there. the irony here, brooke, is if we just do our job, here's the most
scandalous part of all. this is easy. this is actually easy. we can solve this. this is nothing more than politics. we wouldn't condone this type of behavior -- >> how is there's, with all due respect? how is this easy? nothing happened. >> jump in, jump in. >> the solution is easy. the solution is easy because every american agrees if you're on a watch list shouldn't be able to buy a gun but every american agrees if you're wrongly on the list you should be entitled to due process. we can do that. i beg my democratic colleagues to put due process in their proposal. it would get support. i beg my republican colleagues let's do something. let's act in the wake of orlando. let's not play politics with this. it's heartbreak, and so i'm saying, look, i don't agree with the tactics, but if it forces a discussion, a debate on the house floor, so be it. let's have that debate and i look forward to it. congressman yarmouth, jump in, and feel free to jump in. >>? the senate, brooke, they have a filibuster, they can norse a cloture votes and if they get 60
votes they can end debate and we have nothing except called a discharge position so you have to get 218 votes to bring something to the floor. we only have 188 democrats and probably would get a handful of republicans to agree, but we can never get 218 so we have limited leverage to bring -- to force votes on important measures. this is very important. the american people want to us take action. they don't want us to just have moments of silence after every one of these unspeakable tragedies, so i think david's right. it is a relatively easy fix, and i think it would be a relatively easy debate. that's all we're saying. let's have the debate and let's have a vote and let's -- let the will of the congress be done. >> and if i might add. look, the facts matter here. here's my opposition, and it's on constitutional conviction, not politics. if you're currently one of the eight or nine classes prohibited from purchasing a firearm, it's post adjudication. you've been found guilty of a violent crime, been adjudicated to have a mental health challenge, dishonorably discharged by the armed
services. . watch list has no adjudication to it. if you're on the list and a potential threat you shouldn't be able to buy a gun but if you're wrongfully on that lets provide due process. it brings up the failed measure of the last two years that the democrats have offered and it doesn't do anything to bring folks like myself over to say, objection i can support this because it provides due process and protects the second amendment. let's work together on this. >> there's an added benefit to this, too. a lot of people on not-fly list who don't know they are on it. >> that's right, that's right. >> and then they go out and try to buy a gun and say no, they can't and then have the adjudication. >> my bill doesn't provide notification when you're on the list but if you're denied a second amendment right you're notified. >> i don't know if this is the moment that much of the nation has been waiting for, but this is certainly a moment. >> gentlemen, appreciate it. thanks you so much. congressman yarmouth and jolley, thank you, thank you. keeping our yays on the pictures in capitol hill, thank you both and from capitol hill to the
ration for the white house. presumptive republican nominee donald trump today delivered quite the counterpunch he's been promising for weeks against his democratic rival hillary clinton. just 24 hours after secretary clinton blasted trump on the economy. the billionaire hit clinton for 40 minutes, attacking her from all sides, foreign policy, her private e-mail server, her support of the iraq war and so much more. through all of this, you know, the attacks, mr. trump stayed on script, relying on a teleprompter instead of his usual off-the-cuff style. here he was. >> hillary clinton, and as you know, she -- most people know she's a world class liar. just look at her pathetic e-mail server statements. the other candidate in this race has spent her entire life making money for special interest, and i will tell you, she's made plenty of money for them, and she's been taking plenty of money out for herself.
hillary clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and even theft. she ran the state department like her own personal hedge fund doing favors for oppressive regimes and many others and really many, many others in exchange for cash. together, she and bill made $153 million giving speeches to lobbyists, ceos and foreign governments in the years since 2001. they totally own her, and that will never ever change, including if she ever became president. got help us. she believes she's entitled to the office. her campaign slogan is i'm with her. you know what my response is to that? i'm with you, the american people. the hillary clinton foreign policy has cost america thousands of lives and trillions and trillions of dollars, and
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libya, we shall soon see. let's analyze what the republican nominee said with cnn chief political correspondent dana bash down in the room, ballroom and cnn political commentator ryan lizza who is also political commentator for the "new yorker." hello. >> hello. >> you were in the room and i was watching you earlier saying this is the speech that republicans have been begging for. >> yes, in that he actually gave a very sort of well thought out cogent speech listing in kind of bullet form all of the reasons why he doesn't think hillary clinton should be president, as you said, when it comes to her -- from his perspective, the fact that she's been in office too long. he obviously took that to another level. called her corrupt which we can talk about in a second. >> mm-hmm. >> but just policy-wise on trade, on immigration and on foreign policy, and that is the kind of thing that republicans have been begging for as they
have been, you know, kind of cowering under their desks as they have been watching donald trump. >> some of them not wanting to right checks. >> exactly, the last month or so as they have seen the kind of message that he's been giving. they have been wanting him to focus where they think he should be, which is on hillary clinton. now, you know, there are some controversial things that he said in there when it comes to specifics, but for the -- for the most part big picture he framed it the way republicans have been begging him to. to use to his advantage what he used to his advantage so well in the primaries, that he's -- that he's never been in public office and that that is a good thing for people who are so sick of the institutions of washington and even economic institutions that he was -- that he was railing against, so from that perspective there is a big sigh of relief from people who are questioning the very basic performance but also ability of him to be a more conventional, just a little bit of a more
conventional candidate, that he can give this kind of speech and not just kind of give a performance and a show that really does energize people at his rallies. >> let's be clear, and some of it, you alluded to it. he talked about facts and there are also facts, right, and we'll fact check some that have a little later and to be fair on hillary clinton what she will say as well and i'm curious what he talks about with libya and how she wanted to intervene unlike members of obama's cabinet a la bob gates who she is close to and other things that she's saying, as an audience member and someone trying to decide, how will they know where the truthiness lies? >> an enormous amount in this speech to fact check and not an easy speech to fact check on the fly, and he's not always comfortable with being 100% accurate. i think i agree with dana about the -- he finally has a message he's articulating. he's not had a message, not a
specific case against hillary clinton. mostly been kind of a kitchen sink strategy with the taunts, with the crooked hillary but today he actually tried to make it relevant to the average voter. the economy is rigged. she's part of the problem. politics is rigged. she's part of the problem, right? so that's actually a simple consistent message that i think any reason can running against hillary clinton would probably land on, especially given the sort of anti-establishment moment we're in right now, so that's sort of new, and as you point out republicans are probably saying, finally. there's something that we -- a message that we can all rally around. i think the part of the speech where people are going to be shaking their head is there's still a litany of attacks on hillary that work really, really well with the conservative base, that 30% of the country who are hard core trump supporters and republicans, but the voters that he's actually got to reach in these swing states, it sort of washes over them. >> but on the "r" word and on
the rigged word and on the corrupt, i kept thinking and i know he name checked him once bernie sanders. >> yes. >> so if he's trying to speak to not just the far right but more on the bernie sanders side of the spectrum, i mean, that's what he was doing in part, don't you any? >> totally, absolutely. for people who are just enough, enough. he did it overtly, as you said, talking about bernie sanders, but -- but the way that he sort of -- the issues that he picked and the way that -- that the trump campaign decided to weave in -- never mind the personal stuff, talking about her -- her alleged corruption but issues like trade. that was one of bernie sanders', you know, calling cards in that it was appealing to the -- the working voter, the same kind of vote their donald trump has been appealing to and that matters in a big way to people across the country but particularly in some. key battleground states, ohio,
pennsylvania, michigan, that donald trump is really bank on doing well in. hit being her on trade and saying she was involved in helping craft these policies and these agreements, whether or not, you know, she wasn't in most of them, in all of them actually but that she backed them going back to her husband's administration with nafta, that that is the kind of thing that my reporting is that the democrats are most concerned about if not -- as much as if not more than the personal stuff which if you're a clinton you're used to. >> so she's begun here, and i think she's just probably saying her hellos and thank yous, but what i'm waiting to hear from her on is i know she took him to task yesterday, right, and this is supposed to be really on hillary and on the economy moving forward, but won't she be tempted to -- i mean, of everything he laid out in 40 minutes, could you pluck one piece of that that she is just -- that she wants to grab on to today? >> i don't think she's going to defend herself from any of the
specific attacks. i think their view is ignore the specific attacks. don't get bogged down. >> what does she do, nothing? >> she continues the argument she made the in her two big speeches. >> the campaign is certainly doing it, you better believe it. the surrogates. >> talking to reporters and surrogates and what she is going to continue to do is lay out arguments in two speeches, that he's not credible on national security and not credible on the economy. if nothing else she is extremely disciplined when it comes to message, and she's not going to let a donald trump speech attacking her on, you know, 20 different issues knock her off of her anti-trump message. >> and we have the contours of his message versus his message now and it is, if you looked at our polling yesterday, it's pretty clear why. it is him saying she's not trustworthy and honest and her saying you don't want him with his finger on the nuclear codes because he doesn't have the temperament to be president. >> that's it. >> if you look at the big picture where you're trying to get the persuadable voters, and
i don't know how many of them there really, are those are the messages that we're going to continue to hear unless something drastic changes. >> just to go back to one thing -- >> actually forgive me for a second. let's listen into her really quickly. hillary clinton speaking in raleigh. >> so north carolina can get back on the path to the future and get off this detour that you've been on. now, i have to start by saying if you notice anything different about me today it could be that now i've got double the grandmother glow. this past weekend chelsea and mark had a little boy and we are totally over the moon about it, and obviously our family will do everything we can to make sure that little charlotte and now
little aidan grow up with every possible opportunity. i know that's what every parent and grandparent, aunt or ankle, god matter, godfather, people who care about the children in our lives, that's exactly how we all feel. and i believe with all my heart that you should not have to be the grandchild of a former president or secretary of state to have every opportunity available to you in this country. every single child deserves the chance to live up to his or her god-given potential, and that has been the cause of my life. it's rooted in the values that i learned from my family and my faith. we are all in this together, and we have a responsibility to lift
each other up. as we methodists like to say do all the good you can to all the people you can and all the ways you can and that is absolutely true for our children. that's why i got in to public service in the first place, and it's why i am determined that we will win this election in november. [ applause ] and i -- i think -- i think it's an understatement to say that americans face a choice in novemb november. as i said yesterday in ohio, donald trump offers no real solutions for the economic
challenges we face. he just continues to spout reckless ideas that will run up our debt and cause another economic crash. i'm here today to offer an alternative. i have a clear vision for the economy and it's this. we need to make sure our economy works for everyone, not just those at the top, not just for the rich or the well-connected, not just for people living in some parts of the country or people from certain backgrounds and not others. i mean, everyone, and i have a plan -- i have a plan to get us there. five steps we can take together
to drive growth that's strong, fair and lasting, growth that reduces inequality, increases upward mobility, that reaches into every corner of our country. the measure of our success will be how much incomes rise for hard working families, how many children are lifted out of poverty, how many americans can find good jobs that support a middle class life and not only that, jobs that provide a sense of dignity and pride. that's what it means to have an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top. that's the mission, and i'm asking all of you to join me in it. now, we have to overcome some big challenges, i will admit
that. first, to many of our representatives in washington are in the grips of a nailed economic theory called trickle-down economics. now, i do not doubt their sincerity, but it has been proven wrong again and again, but there are still -- there still are people in congress who insist on cutting taxes for the wealthy instead of investing in our future. they careen from one self-inflicted crisis to another, shutting down the government, threatening to default on our national debt, refusing to make the common sense investments that used to have broad bipartisan support, like rebuilding our roads and our bridges, our tunnels, our -- our highways, our airports or
investing in better education from zero through high school and college. now, look, i like to look at evidence. i plead to that. i think evidence is important when you're making decisions that affect other people's lives, and if the evidence were there to support this ideology, would i have to acknowledge that, but we have seen the results. twice now in the past 30 years a republican president has caused an economic mess and a democratic president has had to come in and clean it up. and, yes, we know too many special interests with too many
lobbyists have stood in the way of progress while protecting the perks of the privileged knew, and it's not just washington. too many corporations have embraced policies that favor hedge funds and other big shareholders and top management at the expense of their workers, communities and even their long-term value. they are driven by wall street's obsession with short-term share prices and quarterly earnings. now, a recent survey of corp-of-corporate executives found that more than half, when asked, would hold off making a successful long-term investment, maybe in their workers or plant and equipment or research, if it meant missing a target in the next earnings report. so corporations stash cash overseas or they send it to top
shareholders in the form of stock buybacks or dividends instead of raising wages or investing in research and development, and then this pressure, this short-term pressure leads to perverse incentives and outrageous behavior. it is wrong to take taxpayer dollars with one hand and give out pink slips with the other hand. [ applause ] and no company should be moving their headquarters overseas just to avoid paying their taxes here at home. and in addition, there have been big changes in how american families live, learn and work, but our policies haven't kept up, and there are so many
examples of this. over the past several decades women have entered the workforce and boosted our economy, yet we are the only -- the only developed country that doesn't provide paid family leave of any kind. we're asking families to rely on an old system of supports in a new economic reality, and no wonder so many are struggling. the bottom line is that too many leaders in business and government have lost sight of our shared responsibility to each other and to our nation, and they let wall street take big risks with unregulated financial activities. they skew our tax code towards the wealthy. they fail to enforce our trade rules.
they undermine workers' rights. they have forgotten that we are all in this together and were at our best when we recognize that. excessive inequality such as we have today reduces economic growth. markets work best when all the stakeholders share in the benefits, so the challenges we face are significant. it's not easy to change washington or how corporations behave. it takes more than stern words or a flashy slogan. it takes a plan, and it takes experience and the ability to work with both parties to get results! [ applause ] and -- >> hillary! hillary! hillary!
hillary! >> and that means -- that means we need a president who knows what we're up against, has no illusions about what we need to do to move ahead but can actually get it done, and that is what i am offering because there is good news. the good news is everywhere i go smart, determined men and women are working hard to reverse these trends. mayors are pioneering innovative ways to work with the private sector to invest in their cities. entrepreneurs and small businesses are building and hiring in places that bigger companies have abandoned. unions are providing training programs that add value to the companies that employ their members. union pension funds -- union pension funds are already investing in infrastructure projects that have support the
more than 100,000 jobs here in our country. so do not grow weary. do not grow weary. there are great ideas out there, and we are going to be partners in a big, bold effort to increase economic growth and distribute it more fairly, to built that economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top. i believe the federal government should adopt five ambitious goals. first, let's break through the dysfunction in washington. to make the biggest investment in new good paying jobs since world war ii. second, let's make college debt-free for all.
[ applause ] and transform the way we prepare americans for the jobs of the future. third, let's rewrite the rules so more companies share profits with their employees and fewer ship profits and jobs overseas. finally, let's make sure that wall street corporations and the super rich pay their fair share of taxes. [ applause ] and all of this -- all of this depends upon putting our families first and matching our policies to how we actually live and work in the 21st century. now, briefly about these five points, let's start with jobs. every american willing to work hard should be able to find a job that pays enough to support a family.
and i know we can do this because i've seen it in the past. you know, i remember when i was growing up and america had come out of the upheaval of depression and world war, our leaders worked together to invest in a new foundation of american power and prosperity, highways to connect up our entire nation, college and housing for returning veterans and their families, unprecedented scientific research, and it worked. we built the greatest middle class the world has ever known, and now -- now, we've got to get ambitious again. there is nothing we can't do. let's be just as ambitious to build our 21st century american economy to produce the same results for hard working
america americans. [ applause ] in my first 100 days as president i will work with both parties to pass a comprehensive plan to create the next generation of good paying jobs. now, the heart of my plan will be the biggest investment in american infrastructure in decades, including -- including establishing an infrastructure bank that will bring private sector dollars off the sidelines and put them to work here, and i've talked -- i've talked with local leaders around america and i've seen the dire need for investment. in tampa, for example, i saw how a smart, targeted highway investment near a major port can create thousands of good paying jobs, support the local economy and unlock national commerce. we can create millions of good paying jobs while preparing
america to compete and win in the global economy. so let's set these big national goals, and, you know, i know how important it is to rebuild our roads, our bridges and our airports, but we've got more work to do. let's build better and let's connect every household to broadband by the year 2020. [ applause ] let's build a cleaner more resilient mother grid with enough renewable energy to power every home in the country! let's fix failing water systems like the one that poisoned children in flint, michigan. let's renovate our public schools so every child in every community has access to safe, high-tech classrooms, laboratories and libraries!
our 100 days job package will also include transformational investments in key drivers of growth, advanced manufacturing so we can make it in america and compete and win in the global economy. making -- making america the clean energy superpower of the 21st century which will create millions of jobs and help protect our planet, recommitting to scientific research which can create new whole industries just like we did in the '90s when we started mapping the human genome and small businesses, which should be the engine for creating new jobs across america, they need to be free of red tape. they need to have access to credit. we need to slash unnecessary
regulations making it easier to get startup capital from community banks and credit unions. if you've got an idea for a small business, we want you to get started. let's free entrepreneurs to do what they do best, innovate, grow and hire and make sure that the new service and care-giving jobs being created today are jobs that pay well, too, and that does mean raising the national minimum wage. [ applause ] so many of these jobs are so personal to us that they need to be respected and lifted up, and i know, i know, too, that we've got work to do to stand with
those who are fighting for raising the minimum wage. it's not always how we think about this, but i can tell you another engine for growth and job creation would be comprehensive immigration reform. it will bring -- [ applause ] it will bring millions of workers into the formal economy so that you don't have an unlevel playing field so that workers who are competing for those jobs get undercut because employers go out and find undocumented workers to do those jobs for a lower wage. and so i really believe it's not just the right thing to do, but it will be great. it will be smart for our economy. i want people to be able to
compete, and i don't want -- i don't want to have that disadvantage that exists in too many places where people are being priced out of the jobs they have always done. so we can work toward a full employment and full potential economy, and that does mean we can't ignore those who are still stuck on the sidelines or working part-time when what they really want is a full-time job, or those trapped in long-term joblessness, whether they are veterans, workers with disabilities, people coming home from prison or young people who tried to start their careers in the midst of the great recession. [ applause ] i particularly want young people to feel that they are going to get good jobs that will give them that ladder of opportunity that they deserve to have in
america. that's why i want to expand incentives like the new markets tax credit, empowerment zones and other ideas that bring business, government and communities together to create good jobs in poor or remote areas, places that have lost a factory or a mine, where generations of families used to work. anyone willing to work should get the help they need to qualify for and find that good job, and that means breaking down the barriers of systemic racism and discrimination that holds back -- [ cheers and applause ] those barriers, they hold back african-americans, latinos, asian and native americans and women from fully participating in our economy. we need to reverse the long-term neglect that has dried up jobs
and opportunity in communities of color, in poor communities. you know, it's not by accident that the unemployment rail now among black americans is twice as high as among whites. back in the '90s, we were closing that gap. incomes were going up for everybody, so i think we're going to have to invest money to create jobs for young people because right now i'm worried that if young people don't get that first job when they are young, learn about work, understand the obligations as well as the promise of work, it will be even more difficult to get them in to the workforce later on. and it is way past time for us to guarantee equal pay for women which is still not a reality!
[ cheers and applause ] so, you see -- >> hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! >> you see, it's -- it is not enough to have an affirmative agenda. we've got to knock down these barriers, and as you have seen here in north carolina, discriminating against lbgt americans is bad for business! so make no mistake. we will defend american jobs and american workers. we will say no to bad trade deals and unfair trade practices, including the transpacific partnership which does not meet my high bar for creating good-paying jobs, no to assaults and the right to organize and bargain collectively, no to every attack on the dignity of working families. we're going to make this economy work for everybody, and it's
time we started building it from the ground up, from every home and every community, all the way to washington. now, i know very well that if you don't have the skills for the jobs of tomorrow it's going to be difficult. education is still the pathway for greater opportunities. let's start at the beginning with making quality, affordable child care and preschool available in every community in the next ten years so that we get our littlest americans off to the best start. [ applause ] you know, jim hunt was a pioneer in this. why did he care so much about children zero to 5 besides the fact that he cared about them? because he knew there was a direct line to how the youngest children were treated, educated
and prepared for school and what kind of jobs and economic competitiveness north carolina would have, so we're going to start by helping families be their child's first teachers, and we're going to give them the support they need to do that! and when it comes to primary and secondary education, i pledge to you that we'll make sure that all kids have good teachers in good schools, no matter what zip code they live in. [ applause ] you know, for many years thanks to leaders and people like jim hunt north carolina was a leading state when it came to education. now, unfortunately, thanks to your governor and the legislature, the average teacher salary can barely support a family. it should not be a surprise that thousands have quit in recent
years. we should support our teachers, not scapegoat them! and then let's make sure every student has options after high school, whether it's a four-year degree, free community college, an apprenticeship or other forms of higher education. we need to provide the skills and credentials that match the job openings of today and tomorrow. that's why i'm proposing new tax credits to encourage more companies to after paid apprenticeships that lets you earn while you learn. and i will support the union apprenticeships and training programs already out there. not every good job in the economy of today and tomorrow requires a four-year college degree.
which need to dignify skills training. so many young people have the talent and the will to succeed. they just need a helping hand, and that's why i want us to come together to help our young people break free from the burden of student debt. now, i'm sure we all have stories. i've met so many who tell me they can't start a business. they can't even move out of their parent's basement because of all the student debt holding them back, so let's set the goal to make debt-free college available for everyone so future students won't have to borrow a dime to pay for tuition at a public college or university. and let's liberate the millions of americans who already have
student debt by making it easier to refinance, just like a mortgage. less make it easier to have debt forgiven by doing national service. let's make it easier to repay what you owe as a portion of your income so you never ever have to pay more than you can afford. i've set out a way to do this, and we'll be talking more about it as we go forward in this campaign. now, my third goal is to rewrite the rules so more companies share profits with employees and fewer ship profits and jobs overseas. now, i know, there are a lot of businesses thriving other in north carolina and across our country who see employees as assets to invest in, not costs to cut. they are building companies, not stripping them. they are creating good jobs, not eliminating them, but too
many -- too many businesses take the opposite view, now, i'm not asking corporations to be more charitable, although i think that is important. i'm asking corporations to realize that when more americans prosper, they prosper, too. right? when your paycheck grows, america grows. we are a 70% consumption economy. if we want higher growth, we've got to raise incomes so people have more disposable dollars to be able to spend instead of holding back out of fear of what will happen so let's bring a long-term view back to board rooms and executive suites. let's restore the link between productivity, growth and wage growth. as president i will make it a national priority for more companies to share profits with employees on top of not instead
of good wages. let's recognize the people doing the work, putting in the hours. they are the ones who should be sharing the rewards, and we should continue to crack down on wage theft and make overtime count so companies that pay well can't be undercut by competitors paying poverty wages. and i believe we should strengthen unions which have normand the bedrock of a strong middle class. [ applause ] it should be easier to bargain collectively. that's not only fair. it makes workers more producttive. it strengthens our economy, and let's close the loopholes that help companies ship jobs and profit overseas. let's make companies that outsource jobs to other countries pay back the tax breaks they receive while they were here in america.
and if corporations try to move their headquarters to a foreign country to skip out on their tax bills, let's slap a new exit tax on them and then put that money to work in the communities left behind. and we should extend the rules that were passed in dodd/frank on wall street after the crisis and strengthen them, both for the big bakes and the head isso bank is system, and i will veto any reforms to repeal those rules and vigorously enforce the law with accountability so wall street can never wreck main street again. now, fourth, let's make sure wall street corporations and the super rich pay their fair share of taxes. frgs when people say the game is rigged, the best evidence is the tax code.
it's riddled with scams, loopholes and special breaks like the carried interest loophole that lets some hedge fund managers pay a lower tax rate than a teacher or a nurse. that's not only unfair, it's bad economics, and we're going to stop it. i have been saying that for years. as president if congress won't act, i will ask the treasury department to use its authority to slows that loophole, and here's another idea that i will be pushing. let's pass the so-called buffet rule so top executives can't pay a lower rate than their secretaries. [ applause ] and let's ask the wealthiest americans to pay more, including a new tax on multi-millionaires. that's not only the right thing to do, it's smart for our
economy because these steps will help pay for the investments we need in jobs and education without increasing our national debt. in fact, every program i have proposed in this campaign, i tell you how i will pay for it. now, donald trump and i disagree on a lot of things, and one of them is simple math. and finally, here's our fifth goal. let's put families first and make sure our policies match how you actually work and live in the 21st century. families look a lot different today than they did 30 years ago, and so do our jocks. the movement of women into the workforce has produced enormous economic growth over the past few decades, but with women now the sole or primary breadwinner
in a growing number of families, there's more urgency than ever to make it easier for americans to be good workers, good parents and good caregivers all at the same time. [ applause ] the old model of work where you could expect to hold a steady job with good benefits for an entire career is long gone. people in their 20s and 30s have come of age in an economy that's totally different, and a lot of young parents are discovering just how tough that is on families. many people now have wildly unpredictable schedules, or they cobble together part-time work or they have tried to go independent. now, flexibility can be good, but you shouldn't have to worry that your family could lose your health care or retirement savings just because you change jobs or start a small business.
[ applause ] why did you think every other -- >> hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! >> you know, i have to ask why do you think every other advanced country has paid family leave? do you think they are just unrealistic, or do you think that they have figured out they can have a stabler economy, they can support families, and that's what i want us to do. working families need predictable scheduling, earned six days and vacation days, quality, affordable child care and health care. these are not luxuries, they are economic necessities, and in today's economy benefits should be flexible, portable and comprehensive for everyone. and that means it's time to expand social security as well.
especially -- especially for older women who are widowed or have taken time out of the workforce to care for a loved one and who are suffering financially because of that. we need to look to a secure retirement for everyone and to provide families relief from crushing costs and health care, housing, prescription drugs. you know, i looked at the numbers and in some states two parents earning the minimum wage have to spend up to 35% of their income on child care. for a single parent it could be 70%, so i have set a goal. families should not have to pay more than 10% of your economic for child care. and i will repeat today what i have said throughout this
campaign, i will not raise taxes on the middle class. i will give you tax relief to help ease these burdens. and you know whenever i talk about these family issues donald trump says i'm playing the woman card. right? well, you know what i say. if fighting for child care, paid leave and equal pay is playing the woman card, then deal me in. [ applause ] now, look. here's what i want you to understand. it may be difficult to imagine all of this getting done when washington is so broken. i get that, but i really think progress is possible or i would not be standing up here running to be president of the united stat states. i know republicans and democrats can work together because i've
done it. as you heard alicia say, i helped create the children's health insurance program when i was first lady. that happened with support from both parties, and it now covers 8 million kids, and when you go to get health care for your child, nobody says are you a republican or democrat? they say what does your child need? i worked with republicans many times when i was a senator from new york and as secretary of state so i know we can get results that will make real differences in people's lives. i know however it's rare. there's no question. we need to make washington work much better than it does today, and that means in particular getting unaccountable money out of our politics. one of the reasons this election is so important is because the
supreme court hangs in the balance. we need to overturn that terrible supreme court decision citizens united and then reform our whole campaign finance system. this is about our democracy, but it's also about our economy. campaign finance reform and reducing the power of special interests is directly related to getting washington working for people again. making the right investments, putting your jobs and economic security first. that's why i'm passionate about this issue and i will fight hard to end the stranglehold that the wealthy and special interests have on so much of our government. so, let's do this together, a historic investment in jobs, debt-free college, profit-sharing, making those at the top pay their fair share, putting families first in our modern economy and a democracy
where working people's voices are actually heard. that is what we are fighting for in this election! [ applause ] as you said -- as i said during the primary, i am a progressive who likes to get things done, and we can do this! now, just for a minute compare what i am proposing to what we hear from donald trump. the self-proclaimed king of debt has no real ideas for making college more affordable or addressing the student debt crisis. he has no credible plan for rebuilding our infrastructure apart from his wall.
he has no real strategy for creating jobs. just a string of empty promises and maybe we shouldn't expect better from someone whose most famous words are you're fired. well, here's what i want you to know. i do have a jobs program, and as president i'm going to make sure that you hear you're hired. and here's the bottom line. economists left, right and center all agree donald trump will drive america back into recession. just this week one of senator john mccain's former economic advisers said trump's policies would wipe out, wipe out, 3.5 million jobs.
his tax cuts tilted towards the wealthy would add more than $30 trillion to our national debt over the next 20 years. that is just astonishing, and it's no wonder that the group called the economist intelligence unit, one of the leading firms that analyzes the top threats to the global economy now ranks a trump presidency number three right behind problems in china and volatility in the commodities markets. now, look, i know, donald hates it when anyone points out that hollow his sales pitch is. and i guess my speech yesterday must have gotten under his skin because right away he lashed out on twitter with outlandish lies and conspiracy theories and he did the same in his speech today
and now think about it. he's going after me personally because he has no answers on the substance. in fact, he doubled down on being the king of debt, so all he can do is try to distract us. that's even why he's attacking my faith. sigh. and, of course, attacking a philanthropic foundation that saves and improves lives around the world. it's no surprise that he doesn't understand these things. the clinton foundation helps poor people around the world get access to life-saving aids
medicine. donald trump uses poor people around the world to produce his line of suits and ties. here in north carolina you know as well as anyone our economy is already too unpredictable for working families. we can't let donald trump bankrupt america the way he bankrupted his casinos. we need to write a new chapter in the american dream, and it can't be chapter 11! please join me in this campaign. i'm offering a very different vision about how we're stronger together, when we grow together. we're stronger when our economy works for everyone, not just those at the top. i am convinced that had if we were work hard, if we go into
november with the confidence and optimism that should be the american birth right, we will not only win an election, we will chart the course to the future that we want and deserve! thank you and god bless you! ♪ this is my fight song >> all right. let's stay on the pictures here but as we're looking at hillary clinton speak in raleigh, north carolina, 50 solid minutes, just in the last couple of minutes taking trump to task on his speech earlier today where he attacked clinton every which way. this was really obviously a speech on economy, but she -- she counterpunched back. i've got david chalian and gloria borger and want to have a chat about this before we move on to donald trump this morning. on the economy. i even noted we methodists jabbed to trump when he was questioning her faith. what about the last few minutes in? >> yeah, you know, for the bulk of this speech it was almost like primary season all over again.
it was back to her bread and butter nomination season speech and policies on the economy, but she clearly tacked on at the very end. >> oh, by the way, aben dumb and then go. >> i'm aware of what happened today. she said -- i thought this was an interesting new line because she normally says i'm not going to respond when he attacks me personally and now she turned that and said he attacked me personally because he doesn't have the substance, the answers on the substance. that's different than not responding. that is a response now from her on these personal attacks. it's a deflection, but it's trying to respond that way, and then, of course, you heard her defend the clinton foundation. >> yeah, we saw during this speech trump tweeted, right, and his tweet was talking about how he has changed and he has not. >> #i'mwithyou. >> the line earlier today. >> as he shade in his speech earlier today, i mean, this is -- this is not only are they going after crooked hillary and inept hillary which is what we spoke about today, but it is now old and tired hillary, as he
said earlier today, and trump is trying to portray himself as the agent of change, outsider, and hillary clinton is just more of the same. >> let's get to that. let's get to that. in case, you missed it. he spoke 40 minutes today. here was donald trump speaking from his hotel in lower manhattan. >> the temperament and the judgment and the competence to lead our country. she should not be president under any circumstances. hillary clinton gave china millions of jobs, our best jobs and effectively let china completely rebuild itself. in return, hillary clinton got rich. the book "clinton cash" by peter schweitzer documents how bill and hillary used the state department to enrich their family and america owes -- at america's expense. she gets rich making you poor. it's not just her economy that's been corrupted but our foreign
policy, too. the hillary clinton foreign policy has cost american thousands of lives and trillions and trillions of dollars and unleashed isis across the world. no secretary of state has been more wrong more often and in more places than hillary clinton. her decisions spread death, destruction and terrorism everywhere she touched. hillary clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the united states. >> he was much more measured today. he used teleprompter, gloria borger. one line i heard earlier from one of our commentators almost seemed like paul ryan hijacked teleprompter. this is the speech that republicans wanted. >> well, it was his tone that was different, but he just called her corrupt. >> called her a liar multiple times.
>> and a liar so, you know, the tone was different. the language in the speech was quite strong, and what he was trying to do also was have kind of a broader appeal here to use, to go to the sweet spots of the republican party where they want to branch out, you know, to talk about judges, for example. he didn't talk about mass deportation today. he didn't talk about his muslim ban, for example. this was all about hillary clinton and characterizing her and identifying her and portraying her the way he wants to portray her in the presidential campaign in a way that can get republicans to unify behind him. >> and to write some checks. >> and perhaps persuade independents as well. >> persuade some doubtful independents which was why he was so populist which would apoel to them, too. >> it really was -- both things were being accomplished by donald trump today. one was exactly what you were saying, brooke. this is the speech that republicans have been longing for because there's nothing that unifies the republican party
more than taking it directly to hillary clinton. that's what they want. stop taking it to judge curiel. stop taking it to just women and focus on who our political combat combatant is here and that's hillary clinton and that's one. and he did that and did that in a way that's clearly going to make them feel better. remember this, comes on top of changing his campaign staff, getting rid of his campaign manager, putting in this rapid response operation and getting a more traditional, if you will, conventional, if you will, not words we normally associate with donald trump campaign operation in place so that's happening, but, two, this negative frame. everything from now through november he wants to argue through this frame of hillary clinton as unethical and untrustworthy just like everything she wants to argue from now to november is through a frame he doesn't have the temper not do the job. >> that's set up through that filter. let me ask you two lovely people in purple to stand by because we do have more breaking flugs. this extraordinary movement on capitol hill today, i know we
were talking about it earlier this, iconic voice in american civil rights movement, georgia congressman john lewis demanding republicans allow a vote on gun control legislation. they want this up-down vote, and he had backup. i mean, you've seen some of these pictures here. we're talking dozens and dozens of democratic colleagues flooding the house floor, the well and staging this sit-in which still, by the way, is going on as we speak. they are angry. they are angry about the gun violence that's sweeping our nation ten days after the bloodshed at that gay orlando nightclub. congressman lewis delivering an impassioned speech this morning. >> mr. speaker, i would ask that all of my colleagues join me on the floor. i wonder what would bring this body to take action? what would finally make congress do what is right, what is just, what the people of this country have been demanding, and what is long overdue?
we have lost hundreds and thousands of innocentpeopleto gun violence, tiny little children. we can no longer wait. we can no longer be patient, so today we come to the well of the house to dramatize the need for action, not next month, not next year, but now! today! >> well, that prompted a response from the president of the united states via tweeter. you see it here. thank you, john lewis, for leading on gun violence where we need it movement joining me now from capitol hill new york congressman steve israel. congressman israel, thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you. thanks for having me on. >> i understand, you know, some of your colleagues can't leave the well because if they do, they won't be allowed back in. can you just tell me why you're doing this. >> well, this is a historic moment. i'm not aware of any sit-in
that's ever occurred in the house of representatives, and we're doing it because we're just sick and tired of watching american citizens get slaughtered, get mowed down by gun violence and having the response from congress be another moment of silence. silence isn't working. we've had too many moments of silence. since orlando 300 americans have been killed by gun violence. we want something done, and the republicans can end this sit-in within five minutes from now. all they have to do is just let us vote. we just want to vote on one common sense measure that says that if you're on the terrorist watch list and you can't get on a plane you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. just give us that vote and then we'll end the sit-in. >> there are extraordinary pictures, i, too, wondered when the last time this happened and i deferred to my colleague who covers the hill said it did happen under leader pelosi and it was republicans staging a sit-in and i believe the democrats turned the lights off. i don't think that that has happened yet here, but when we talk about, i mean, what really stopped me, congressman israel, is watching john lewis, a man, you know, who marched with
dr. king, played a -- played an integral role in ration equality and now you see him literally sitting with your colleagues on the floor. what does that image say to you? >> well, this is in fact a civil rights movement. as john knows, as people like bobby rush know, the right to be able to go to a school without being shot, the right to be able to go to a nightclub without being killed, that is a civil right, and so in many respects this is a new form of civil rights protest, and it's just remarkable that we have somebody like john lewis leading us in that. i'll also say the republicans may not have shut the lights off, but they shut the microphones off, and they stopped the public from going into the public gallery to watch this until we protested that. why did they do that? because they know that 85% of the american people agree with democrats on the issue of gun violence and the less the american people know the republican leadership argues the better it is for the republican leadership. >> what about republicans though who say democrats are spending
too much time on gun control when you should be spending time on keeping terrorists out of this country, stopping the self-radicalization? what would you say to them? >> guess what. we can do both. we get pretty good salaries here on capitol hill. we can protect our national security and we can protect our local security and our community security. it's a false argument, and the most important thing we have to do as members of congress is to protect and defend, and that means protecting and defending people from gun violence by saying if you're a suspected terrorist you don't get a gun and protecting and defending the united states from terrorists abroad. we can do both of those things. >> have you heard anything from speaker ryan? i mean, how long are you all planning to be there? >> look, i can't tell when you this will end. this was actually very spontaneous. this was not pre-planned, pre-organized. this was spontaneous outrage by my colleagues and myself, and i can't tell when you it's going to end. speaker ryan would know and the answer is when he gives us a vote. we just got a whip notice just a few minutes ago saying that they anticipate having votes as soon
as possible. we'll see what that means. >> just quickly, i just saw a note that your colleague keith ellison, congressman ellison, received a note from his mother to tell him to go sit on that floor with you all. do you know anything about that? >> you know, i was not on the floor when congressman ellison got that. >> okay. >> but i've been getting a ton of e-mails saying stay there. don't leave until you get this vote. >> okay. congressman steve israel, thank you so much. i appreciate your voice. we're listening to democrats. we're listening to republicans. we'll talk to republican senator and check what's happening on that side of capitol hill coming up here. also, as we've been discussing, both speeches, both donald trump this morning and hillary clinton just now, both of which we took live, we need fact checks on both sides. we will do that for you coming up. you're watching cnn special live coverage. i'm brooke baldwin. when a moment turns romantic why pause to take a pill?
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welcome back. thanks for being with me. i'm brooke baldwin. donald trump's speech this morning railing against hillary clinton may have been convincing, but how much of it was factually correct? what about her speech that we took just moments ago in north carolina? cnn's reality check team is working hard behind the scenes. tom foreman is here. was that tom? talk to me? what did you find? >> both of them kept our reality check team very, very busy. one of hillary clinton's chief claims is that people do better economically under democrats than they do under republicans, and she particularly likes to say that african-americans did better when her husband was president. listen. >> you know, it's not by accident that the unemployment rate now among black americans is twice as high as among whites. back in the '90s, we were closing that gap.
>> well, here's the problem with that statement. look at this chart. this shows from way back in the '70s. the unemployment rate among african-americans has almost always been twice as high as that of whites in this country. sometimes a little bit less. sometimes a little bit more but it's never really moved a whole lot. what we're experiencing right now is not unusual, even if it's something that's very unfortunate and unliked. look at the 1990s. any evidence of it this there substantially closeing? maybe a little bit here and not here and not here so if you look at it all together, yes, the economy got better in the 1990s, generally and everyone did better but african-americans did not close the gap substantially. her claim about this is just plain false. donald trump meanwhile earlier in the day went after her on a subject that bernie sanders has liked a lot, those speeches she gave after she left the secretary of state's office. listen to what she said. >> she made $21.6 million giving
speeches to wall street banks and other specks interests and in less than two years secret speeches that she does not want to reveal under any circumstances to the public. >> that is a whopping number, but let's look at how we've analyze it had here at cnn. between 2013 and 2015 she did give indeed about 92 speeches, and her average fee, sometimes higher, sometimes lower, about $225,000, so, yeah, she made more than $21 million during that time of time for speeches and has steadfastly refused to release the content of the speeches was true about that. both candidates said plenty of things, some false and some misleading and find out about all of it, brooke, by going to our website cnn.com/realitycheck. >> glad we're checking both of these presumptive nominees. thank you, my friend and let's go straight to capitol hill and
got some breaking news here. a man who would now like to hang on to his senate seat in the state of florida. i have manu raju standing by with florida senator marco rubio. manu? >> thank you, brooke. i'm talking to marco rubio after making that decision, saying you're going to run for re-election. on the campaign trail when you were running for president you ended up missing a lot of senate votes. in the september debate you said this is why i'm missing a lot of votes because i'm leaving the senate and i'm not running for re-election. >> right. >> so why do you deserve to be re-election? >>the next line is i was running for president and when you run for president you missed votes. bernie sanders hasn't been here in nine months and everybody else who has run missed a lot of votes. i don't know anyone who has been able to run for president authentically and legitimately or not and i didn't like it and there's other aspects of the job. this was not a decision that i thought i was going to make. i was ready to move forward and when i was telling people up until ten days ago it was the truth, but i changed my mind and i changed my mind, because number one, i never said i was perfect or i had every answer
and when you're not perfect or not have every answer there are times when you'll change your mind and number two because i honestly believe that no matter who is elected president we're going to need a senate full of people willing to act as a check and balance on the excesses of the next president, and i think given the state of this race we'll have a lot of that over the next few years unless the democrats have a majority and then hillary clinton if she were to win will get a blank check. i went back home to west miami and we talked about it over father's day weekend and we had two paths to choose from. one was more comfortable, the risk of not running, the comfort that comes from being in the private sector, but we chose the opportunity to make a difference in service and i'm looking forward to the challenge. it will be a tough race and i'm looking forward to it. >> why do you deserve to be re-elected after missing so much of the senate's business? >> i'm proud of the people we've helped through our constituent service and proud of our legislative achievements quite frankly in a senate where not a lot happened over the last four
to five years up until about a year ago when it started moving on some things. there's no one in this race that's better prepared, more capable and has shown had a bert ability to stand up to the excesses of whoever might win this race. if it's hillary clinton, it's clear. i disagree with her on virtually everything. if it's donald trump that's elected president, i'll encourage him to pursue good policies and if he offers policies we don't agree with, we'll have to oppose those, and i know i'll do that. my democratic opponents are going to be a blank check for hillary clinton. >> do you commit to serveving six years, six full years if you are elected? >> well, i'm not going to do any more of these unequivocal pronunciations. >> don't the voters of florida need to know? >> i'm coming back to be a senator, fully committed to this job with as much passion as ever. i'll tell you this, if my plan was to run for president in 2020, jumping into a race like this with all the political risks associated with it would not be the decision one would make. i'm fully prepared to have the u.s. senate be the last
political job that i ever have, and i just want to be the best senator i can possibly be for the people of florida. >> that means you're close the door on 2020? >> you'll aim telling you if i were running for president in 2020, jumping into this race is not the decision most people would advise. i'm coming back to be a u.s. senator and give my time and energy and have a senate that can act as a check and balance on whoever is elected president >> you mentioned your legislative accomplishments and one of the things that you're criticized for sim gracious. where does that rank in your career here, your first term in the senate? you tried to cut a deal and then you abandon it had. >> it's not that we abandoned it. it couldn't pass and one of the things that common sense tells you, whether it's in life or in this process, is if your goal is to actually get something done you may have to change it in order to get something done it. happens every day here. in order to achieve a result -- if what you want is a talking point, sure, just put something out there, but if you want to achieve a result and actual answer you'll have to take into account the opinion of 99 other senators and 435 members of the
house and a president that will sign it and that bill as it was written could not pass. it has less votes today than it did three years ago. i remain committed to the idea that we have to address this issue. i don't believe -- in fact i now know for a fact that we cannot do it in one mavis piece of legislation. there is a path forward on immigration, but it can't be in one massive piece of legislation. we tried it and don't have the support for it, and as a result nothing has happened for three years after. >> in your statement today you said that trump's presidency is still worrisome, your words, but will you still vote for him in november? >> it's a choice between someone who i disagree with on a lot of things and someone who i disagree with on everything, and -- and it's not the choice i wanted. i ran for president, and it's not the choice a lot of people are comfortable with, but it's a choice we have. what i do know is no matter who wins that election the senate under the constitution has an important role to play to act as a check and balance on the next president and if i'm re-elected to the senate that's exactly what i'll be, even against a
president in my own party >> you suggested before you would even speak at the convention on his behalf. would you do that? >> well, i don't think i answered that question the way i wanted to, unfortunately. what i meant to stay, is and i've said it since, i'll speak at any republican gathering, but it thereby about the things i believe in. i'm not going to change the things i believe in to fit into someone else's message and i respect that, and that's probably why i wouldn't be asked to speak at the convention. >> are you going to go to the convention? >> i'll have to re-examine that now that i have a campaign to run in florida. i'll have a lot less free time. >> do you feel any better about trump's candidacy after he fired his campaign manager and gave a speech criticizing hillary clinton? >> i didn't see the speech and i'm not aware of the inner workings of the campaign but my view of it, yes, it's interesting what's happening now but these campaigns are going to take a lot of twists and turns. i continue to be hopeful that on some of the key issues that we can move donald on some of them and in a way that i think more reflects what i hope our country will be about, and in the end he's going to make his decision
about what he stands for. if he's elected president and i'm re-elected to the president, when he has good ideas i'll support them and when he has bad ideas, we'll act as a check and balance to stop him. >> polls are showing actually he's struggling in florida, but you are doing well. to win do you have to separate yourself from donald trump? >> no, i think in order to win i have to tell people what i'm going to do in the senate. the president and senate are two different branches of government. the role of a senator is not to rubber stamp the decisions of a president, even that of your own party. you need to protect and represent the people of your state and ultimately the country. that's what i intend to do. as i said, obviously traditionally anyways, a republican will have more in common with a republican nominee. in this case we have a situation where i do disagree on a lot of issues with donald. i disagree on everything with hillary, so for voters i know that's a harder choice for me. i'm running for senate, and coming back here and we're going to be a check and balance on whatever happens in the senate. >> are you concerned, in 2010
you had a three-person race and look at the last tlim was a vote in florida in march you lost pretty overwhelmingly to donald trump. are voters falling out of favor with you? >> well, we're going to find out. we'll have a campaign. that's why you run a campaign and you talk to voters and you tell them what you want to do and they make that decision. i have no illusions that this is going to be easy. i didn't get into this thinking this was an easy race. this is a tough race, well-funded on both sides and one of the most competitive states in the country and a very unusual presidential cycle. i'm fully aware of that, and of the political risks associated with it. but i felt it was a risk worth taking in exchange forever the opportunity to try to make a difference, and if it doesn't work out, just wasn't meant to be. it was god's plan. >> that's what democrats are saying. they are going to put a lot of money and time and effort in this race because if you lose twice in one year, your political career will be over. did that cross your mind, and do you agree were that assumption? >> i told you but it wasn't a political decision. if i wanted to be president in 2020 you wouldn't get into this. that wouldn't be something to motivate you to do it. that's okay. i want to serve of. i'm going to work hard to be
re-elected, and if it works out, i'll do it with honor. i'll do with it with a lot of hard work and enthusiasm and that's the direction i think it will end up, and if it doesn't, my kids will still love me and so will my wife and we'll continue and go back and live our lives in the greatest country in the world. ultimately i think we'll win. >> who ultimately put pressure on you? >> zero. i understand what the decisions were and what i was being asked to consider. my decision had nothing to do with what anyone in washington said to me. my decision was made in between breaks of the nba finals and pressure cleaning my driveway and made between me and my wife and input from the children who are old enough to have persons and not votes, but opinions. >> and they all wanted you to do it? >> my family has made the commitment that involves as a family to what public service means and when you do that, you give up some things in exchange for others, and for us it's the fulfillment of being able to make a difference, and i believe that i can make a difference, not just in this election but over the next six years here in the senate, and in we're blessed
with the opportunity to do it, that's what we wanted to do. >> it seemed like a difficult desgligs it wasn't our plan. i mean, we were prepared to move into a different direction and excited about many actions of it and i was ready to be the defensive coordinator of the florida christian school sixth great team. >> not anymore? >> i designed a pretty good defense. i think it's okay. a lot of parts i was really excited about and we came off after a long presidential race and it was difficult from that realm but in the end i know we've made the right choice. >> last question. donald trump is going to spend a lot of time in florida. will you campaign with him? >> i actually hanes that had question before i even got in the ration, you know. it's not that i'm liking to undermine him but i think the differences between us on key issues are so significant that i don't plan -- i've got to run my own race. i have my own identity. i have my own positions on issues, and i'm not going to be
out there undermining him or anything of that knoch because i don't want hillary to win but i think i need to tell people what i'm going to do as a senator and that was going to be the case i respective of whether i ran. >> got it. thanks, for talking with us. brooke, back for you. >> okay. manu raju, thank you. senator rubio, thank you as well here. let me run through some. highlights and maybe we can get manu back in a second. first of all, he says, yes, he would like to hang on to his senate seat. marco rubio made that decision between talking to his family, pressure washing his driveway and talking to his family. we heard this blank check line over and over if hillary clinton is elected, will he or won't he run in 2020? obviously it's way too early, but he sort of hedged on that one. manu, i know we have you back and i'm running through some of your highlights. you tried, you know, nailing him down on 2020 and a won, sort of evaded that. you know, your motion if he loses twice in a year he could be toast politically. he's willing to it sounds like take that risk, and he would be willing -- you tell me what you
think of the response, when asked if he would speak at the convention in cleveland sounded like that was a yes that as long as he's speaking about his own values that has remained steady all along? >> yeah, that's right. interesting. when he spoke to our colleague jake tapper about that he signaled he would be willing to talk at the convention and wanted to clean that up. you know, i was only talking about whether -- i would only talk about my own vuds, my own preferences going forward, but on that 2020 question. >> yeah. >> it was interesting because he didn't shut the door but he almost completely shut the door. he shade, look, if it was my plan i would not run for e-election, a real sign that maybe he doesn't think running for president is in his future. of course he could be saying that but he said the senate office is george bush to be my last political office that i hold. pretty interesting stuff there. also, recognizing the challenges of running with trump at the top of the ticket, saying he probably is not going to campaign with donald trump. will let -- he'll run his own
campaign and try to pitch why he deserves to be re-elected but also saying he's not going to undermine donald trump because he knows donald trump won by a very, very big margin. i think he recognizes, brooke, this will be a very tough race. democrats will put a lot of money into it. as we discussed, if he loses twice in one year he could be toast and democrats recognize that. >> on that final note and question you asked if he would campaign with donald trump in florida. i mean, donald trump will be zigzagging through florida, we know, in the coming months, and how significant is that, that he -- he almost didn't -- he trailed off. he didn't totally finish his sentence. he's like i don't plan to. i'm running my own race. that is -- that is definitely a no. >> yeah. it sounded like had a no. i guess things could always change because when you plan something now, as you know, marco rubio didn't plan to run for re-election and he is right now. >> right. >> he clearly rec noises that
donald trump alienates a lot of folks, and that quinnipiac poll from this week is significant. donald trump islousing by seven points or so to hillary clinton in florida and marco rubio is winning by seven points or so in florida. he does need to create some distance in order to win re-election. >> manu raju, great, great interview. thank you so much with senator marco rubio. >> thanks, brooke. >> thank you. coming up next with democrats holding a sit-in right now on the house floor demanding this vote on a gun bill, we'll talk with a republican from the senate. we've got senator jeff blake standing by who is part of that bipartisan gun bill on the senate side, co-sponsoring that piece of legislation. why he believes this is unlike many others before and why he says it does have a chance to pass. we'll talk to him. ♪ for people with heart failure, tomorrow is not a given. but entresto is a medicine that helps make more tomorrows possible. ♪ tomorrow, tomorrow...
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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. no fly no buy. legislation that would keep suspected terrorists from being able to buy guns did not pass this week. the senate failing to pass any of four proposed gun control measures, but now there is a new, a bipartisan compromise that is coming to life. arizona senator jeff flake joins me now from washington, one of the senators getting behind this no fly no buy bill being introduced by republican senator from the state of maine, susan collins. senator flake, thank you so much for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> all right. before we talk about your side of the chamber about just quickly the sit-in being staged by house dems? thoughts? >> well, it's interesting to see. i was in the house for 12 years and never saw anything like that, so, anyway, that's new. >> it is new. i don't know if anything will come of it. they are asking obviously speaker ryan for an up-down vote. on your side, what -- how likely is it that you think that this piece of legislation that you've helped co-sponsor will pass? >> i think we've got a great
shot. this is the first piece of legislation on these issues here on the terrorism/gun issue that was actually designed to pass not designed just to put the other party on notice or put em in a different position, so this was started on a bipartisan basis. we've looked to grow that in the last couple of days and we've got a good bill. it's one that narrows down the list rather than a watch list that contains over a million people. this is is no-fly list and a selectee list, a narrower list with due process protections and second amendment protections are there, and i think it can pass. >> many of your republican colleagues just say you're wrong. how do you politely disagree with them? >> i think if you are too dangerous to put on a plane, then you're too dangerous to allow to purchase a weapon and the no fly no buy, i think that
that's just common sense to people out there as long as you have good due process protections so if somebody is suspected of having links to terrorism, then they have a way to force the not the individual, to prove that there's a link to terrorism. and if the individual prevails, then the government pays the attorney cost as well. so there are good due process protections here and somebody who shouldn't board a plane probably shouldn't buy a weapon as well. >> the nra says otherwise. just explain to us how profound the nra influence is on its members. >> we started this process not consulting with outside groups. we said what makes sense, what is good commonsense legislation. second amendment rights is important to all of us and would have made a difference in this
latest shooting. >> right. >> we know that this shooter in florida was once on one of the lists and was off it but this legislation has a look-back provision. so if this legislation had been in place, the fbi would have been notified. >> also with orlando separately, i'm curious of your perspective, since we're talking about guns, he used this ar-15 assault rifle, this appears to be the weapon of choice, sadly, for these mass murders, capable of firing rounds and rounds of ammunition. would you be in favor of banning those types of weapons? >> no. let's look at the individual. this is an individual who was inspired by terrorists overseas. he undertook this operation. we ought to look at him, not the weapon that he used. >> so that's a no, you think
civilians should be able to -- >> that's not the problem here. the problem is a sick individual and with the inability of our government to actually track and know when he was purchasing a weapon. >> practically speaking, senator flake, what do regular civilians need assault rifles for? >> well, i'm not going to get into -- i don't have one myself. i'm a gun owner. i don't have an assault-type weapon. >> it's just part of the conversation. it's a fair question. >> yeah. and i -- i'll leave it to those that have it to explain. but i don't have one but i think that's not the way to get at this problem. if we want to really get at this problem, we'll be doing something about tightening background checks and a lot of things that we can do that we
have pretty good agreement on, i hope we can move forward on those issues and in this case i think we can move forward on the principle that if you're too dangerous to put on a plane, you shouldn't be buying a weapon. >> okay. senator jeff flake, we'll be watching to see how this piece of legislation moves in the senate. thank you for your time. i appreciate it. it's an important conversation. thank you. >> in a little over an hour, speaker of the house paul ryan will sit down for an exclusive interview with wolf blitzer. he'll be asked about this sit-in on the house side of the dems and support for donald trump. do not miss that interview in "the situation room." and we will be right back.
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it also appears that i'm going to be the nominee so i'm not going to be determining the scope of the convention and, as you know, a couple of weeks ago i had a meeting with secretary clinto >> and how did that go? >> it was very good. look, i have known secretary clinton for 25 years. we served in the senate together. you know, where you are right now is what we are trying to do, which is no secret to anybody, is, a, to create the most progressive platform for the needs of the working families. >> senator sanders there speaking today to c-span. let's go to our senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny who is joining us now. that is the first time we have heard senator sanders acknowledge he's not going to be the nominee. >> it is, brooke. he is acknowledging what really has become political reality here, certainly for a couple
weeks, that he fell short. he certainly won 23 states and millions of votes but will not be the nominee. so this is sort of the way that bernie sanders decides to make this announcement, on c-span. but brooke, he's also giving a speech tomorrow night in new york city and the title is where we go from here. so where we go from here, i'm told by his aides, he will campaign aggressively against donald trump. we'll see if he offers an endorsement for hillary clinton tomorrow night. he still has not done that, brooke. >> we're going to listen for that. quickly, 20 seconds, do we know what his role will be in philadelphia at the convention? >> i think his role will be to -- potentially, she'd like him to introduce her and put her name into nomination. that would activate all of his
supporters. >> donald trump appealing to his supporters as well. decisions, decisions ahead of november 8. jeff zeleny, thank you so much. appreciate it there in washington. thank you all for being with me. i'm brooke baldwin. to washington we go and my colleague jake tapper. "the lead" starts right now. thanks, brooke. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news, a call to, quote, disarm hate. right now. ten days after orlando. house democrats staging a sit-in in the house to force a vote on gun control. also, calling her a world-class liar with a deadly foreign policy, donald trump today firing back at hillary clinton. we're going to fact check his speech. plus, nuclear north korea, more dangerous today than it was just 24 hours ago. details of yet another