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>> a devastating night in dallas. our breaking news this morning. snipers kill five police officers and wound six others at a rally against police violence. thousands of people were in the streets when that shooting began. there are three suspects in custody and a tense hours-long standoff under way right now. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm boris sanchez. welcome to the viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. we start with the breaking news in dallas. snipers shooting 11 police officers overnight. killing five of them. thousands march through the city protesting the shootings in louisiana and minnesota. police are in a tense standoff with a man holed up in a parking garage. here's the latest from police. >> currently we are in
negotiations with a suspect involved in the shootings at the garage of el centro in downtown dallas. this suspect we're negotiating with for the last 45 minutes has been exchanging gunfire with us and not being very cooperative in the negotiations. before i came here, i asked for plans to end this standoff. and as soon as i'm done here, i'll be presented with the plans. in addition to this second floor garage as we recap the previous press release, we have in custody a female who was in the same area of the el centro garage. we followed a mercedes with two suspects who had camouflage bags who officers ended up stopping
on traffic in the oak cliff area near polk and 67th. they are in custody and being interviewed. the suspect that we are negotiating with that has exchanged gunfire with us over the last 45 minutes has told our negotiators that the end is coming and he's going to hurt and kill more of us. meaning law enforcement and there are bombs all over the place in this garage and in downtown. so we are being very careful in our tactics so we don't injure or put any of our officers in harm's way, including the citizens of dallas as we negotiate further. we still don't have a complete comfort level that we have all the suspects. so we will continue a very, very
rigorous investigation and search of downtown. we will likely be working throughout the early morning hours of friday until we are satisfied that all suspects have been captured and have an opportunity to be interviewed so we can fully understand what's motivated this attack on our officers. >> much of the city of dallas is still shutdown right now. it's a giant crime scene as you heard from police. they are not sure they have all of the suspects. there is the potential for explosives to be located across the city. for the latest, let's bring in polo sandoval. polo, witnesses are describing a harrowing scene where people are gunned down. >> reporter: harrowing and horrified according to the reports coming from the ground after the shooting broke out.
this is important here. a major american city under siege right now an ordering to the officer pressor. this is the deadliest day since 9/11. this is important to remember that as the investigation moves forward and the individual remains holed up in the garage. he claims he will kill more officers and the garage is rigged with explosives. this started as a peaceful protest and nearing an end when the sound of gunfire erupted. video shows police scrambling for coverage. moments later, gunfire erupts and people sent scrambling for cover there. many capturing the images on social media. even webcast live. one is ismael dejesus. he grabbed his phone and looked
out the window. >> basically came out to the balcony. i heard some popping sounds. i thought it was fireworks at first. came out and a man had a rifle. ar-15 clear as day. pretty big magazine. you could see toward the end of the video here, he goes in and drops a few mags. >> this is him behind the railing next to the column? >> yes. this is him behind the white pillar shooting to the left and turns to the right and shoots to the right. shoots to the other side of the pillar. he was shooting at somebody and aiming at somebody. then he turned around and checked his back to make sure no one was coming. the officer did come across the right side of the screen to that pillar to the right. he tried to take him in the
firefight. it didn't end very well. it was very tragic. >> that's the officer getting shot right there? >> no, i didn't get the video of the officer getting shot. that is the officer down right there. it was -- it looked like an execution, honestly. he sat over him after he was already down. shot him maybe three or four more times in the back. at that point, i didn't know if he was confirmed dead or anything, obviously. he was down for about five more minutes until anybody could come get to him. >> you heard the shooting. you started filming. the shooter had lots of 30 round magazines? >> yeah. that's my guesstimate. they were not short mags. they were high class magazines. >> so many they were falling out of his pocket? >> yeah. he dropped about two of them. you can see at the end of the
video, two dropped out of his pockets. he had multiple pockets. you can see in the resolution of the video, he had three or four pockets. >> you said it looked like he was wearing body armor. >> he looked like he was wearing something underneath his shirt. the police officer did shoot him in the back. it did not faze him. he just turned around and shot the officer as if nothing ever happened. i can only assume there, unless he was a very big guy, he had some body armor on under the shirt. >> the man you heard from along with several other witnesses will now not be able to be in the area for a long time. we heard from mayor mike rawlings say you are looking at a massive crime scene. people live downtown. people work downtown. as we get ready for the next business day. it is important to keep that in mind. authorities encouraging people to take the day off if they live
in and around the area. as they learn more about some of the victims here. a few moments ago, d.a. r.t. identifying the first of the five officers as one of their own. officer brent thompson. 43 years old. killed in the thursday protest. first d.a. r.t. officer killed in the line of duty. he joined the agency in 2009. the mayor asking for everybody to keep his family in their prayers and the rest of the dead and injured and of course the rest of the community, christine and boris, as they continue to come to terms with what took place. >> it is impossible to come to terms. polo, thank you. >> it is still under way here. a siege on an american city. a coordinated attack on police during a peaceful rally. let's see what happens next. we are joined by cnn analyst cedric alexander. he is the author of the book
"new guardians." also with us here is former atf executive matt horris. cedric alexander, we are talking about a peaceful rally and snipers from multiple locations and angle s triangulating on police officers. a fifth officer has died. polo reported this is the deadliest day for law enforcement since 9/11. this is a public safety official's worst nightmare. >> it is. let's say my heart and prayers go out to the officers and families who lost their lives in that community and police department. absolutely so. this is a sad day for law enforcement not just in dallas, but across the country.
this community is watching. the world is watching. let me say something about the attack. from what we know so far, this appeared to have been a well calculated attack and ambush on the officers. they we they were heroic. they did everything they can to get people out safely. five officers lost their lives and six are injured and rest are traumatically injured as well, too. that community will move through this. as a community across the country, we have to push past this and make sure those responsible for the deaths and injuries of those officers in that community are brought to justice. >> an extremely tense time for the nation. i hope wanted to ask matt about the situation unfolding right now. in terms of the standoff with the final suspect. it appears this person has a
death wish. they are still shooting offic officers. they are saying we are facing the end. how do you approach a suspect? >> you know chief brown is a professional of the dallas police department. they have been here before. this is the last stage of the e eve event. this cannot end well for the suspect. >> what do we know about the three in custody right now? at this point, it is not clear if all of the people who are firing have been identified or picked up. >> nothing is clear right now. they are interrogating each suspect. gaining intelligence. they are following up on other leads. they are taking that information to help them understand what is going through the mind of the remaining suspect. over the course of the next several hours, we hope to see this come to a conclusion. >> cedric, when you see this video and hear accounts from a witnesses describing the fluid movements of the gunmen. what does it tell you about potentially any level of
training or preparation for something like this? it seems like they were very coordinated in this attack. >> it does appear very coordinated. if you look at the footage where you showed the subject and his movement behind the pillar. some other earlier footage of witnesses described how they attacked and killed another police officer on the street. in terms of movement and confidence in which they made the attack. certainly do strongly suggest that they have some prior military training or they have been exercising or preparing for this exercise that occurred last night. here is something i feel confident about. i do agree with horris. this will not end well for this subject. all those that were involved that knew about this or had knowledge of it, i'm confident they will be brought to justice. if we look back at san bernardino and recently in
orlando in this country. bangladesh, baghdad, we don't know the motive of this threat. whether it has something to do with past events in louisiana and the other city, but was this possibly also another terrorist attack? >> yeah. >> and that is yet to be determined. i don't want to speculate too much, but certainly the incident that occurred in minnesota and incident that occurred in baton rouge, we don't know whether that was in response to those too. we have a lot of work. >> the situation is still unfolding. matt, this is a good point. this is an assassination on police. it comes with 1,000 people in the street protesting the african-american men's death at the hands of police. this is so coordinated. this sniper event.
it is unclear if they were related other than a large scale gathering. >> it is unclear at this time. hopefully we can get the suspect in custody without another tragedy. is this a revenge motive? is it a revenge motive to bring attention to police? there are variables here to come into play. we will find out in the next press conference. >> for those just joining us. 15 minutes past the hour. i want to get you up to speed on what is happening. snipers opening fire on police last night as thousands protested. deadly shootings by police officers in minnesota and louisiana. here is what we know. five police officers shot and killed. six others wounded. there are three suspects in custody. dallas police are now engaged in the long, tense standoff with one gunman holed up in a
downtown parking garage. this has been chaotic. look at the video taken by the sniper attacks taken by eyewitnesss. [ gunshots ] >> blacks, whites, latinos. a mixed community here protesting. this just came out of nowhere. >> somebody's really armed to the t. this is not one person. >> this just came out of
nowhere. we were toward the end of the protest when the shots started firing off. >> get back! get back! let's go! back! let's go, let's go! >> all of a sudden, i saw and heard six to eight shots. it looked like two officers went down. i didn't have time to get a good look. i ran back and i was screaming run, run, run. active shooter. active shooter. >> let's all come together and support our police officers. please, let's come together right now as a city. >> an important message to come together as a city. dallas just one of many cities across the country where huge crowds gathered peacefully for
the most part to protest the shootings of castile. it was a similar scene in chicago where protesters were chanting black lives matter as they blocked a key intersection and dan ryan expressway. in washington, d.c., thousands marching from the white house shouting hands up don't shoot. thousands walking through city streets. this was the scene in new york with hundreds of people jamming times square holding signs and chanting against police violence. police say there were more than a dozen arrests here in new york. in minnesota, where police shot and filled philando castile. an emotional moment when castile's mom addressed the city outside the school where he worked. >> he lived by the law, but he
died by the law. and it's got to be a time when we all come together as a nation of people and demand this stop. >> cnn's ryan young is in st. paul, minnesota, covering the protests for us. he has more on that and the investigation. >> reporter: boris and christine, philando castile's name is one you heard over and over. you hear the crowd chanting power to the people. that is an emotional scene as people are gathering outside the governor's mansion here in minnesota. the crowd has swelled to over 2,000 people at one point. they have been making their voices heard. they want to make sure the governor knows they want answers. the governor came out and addressed the people for some time. >> i can't say how shocked i am and how deeply, deeply offended that this would occur in
minnesota to somebody who got pulled over for a taillight being out of order. would this have happened if the driver and passenger were white? i don't think it would have. i'm forced to confront and i think all of us are forced to confront this kind of racism exists. >> reporter: they want to make sure this video that so many people have watched with a child crying and screaming and woman narrating her boyfriend dying doesn't go unanswered in terms of the ideas of what happens next. they want a time period for the doj and they want answers for why the officer opened fire. you can hear their voices. people claim to be out here for as long as it takes to get a change to the system. boris and christine. >> that is ryan young in minneapolis. in dallas, a siege under way in a parking garage. a man in that parking garage
armed to the teeth. five officers have been killed. six others wounded in an ambush of law enforcement who were protecting peaceful protesters. protesting that story that ryan young was just reporting to you. let's talk about this further. cedric alexander and former atf executive matt horace. matt, something after two days of criticism of police, two days of questioning of police tactics, this is an inflection point for dallas. >> i came out to the balcony. the man had a rifle. ar-15. >> i have never been proudmore
to be a police officer. seeing the courage and professionalism and grit to stay on scene in an area looking for suspects knowing we are vulnerable. they don't know where they are and our downtown is very large with a lot of high buildings. some of the stories i heard from officers talking about what happened running toward the gunfire. to help the injured. officers to get them transported to the hospital by patrol car, not having the time to wait for ambulance. so many stories of great courage. >> cedric alexander, the worst nightmare for public safety. >> it's a nightmare for this country. certainly i think we all feel the pain of chief brown and what he and his department is experiencing. many of us who are police administrators, we have shared some part of that experience
somewhere in the course of our career unfortunately. that's a horrific scene they have tonight. it's a horrible situation. it touches all of us throughout this country. we are going to continue to be supportive of chief brown and what they're doing. here is something i must note. in light of the relationship of police and community, the strained relationship that still exists to this day, particularly with the recent events that we are very much aware of, these men and women still go out and get it done for us every day. we have seen this. we saw this last night. unfortunately, these officers lost their lives. they lost their lives protecting those who were exercising their first and second amendment rights. just to begin with. they lost their lives. to protect them. to get them off the streets. no civilians lost their lives
last night, but five police officers did and six are severely injured. it's a lot to be said about that. i think as we go through this very challenging time between police and community, we must remind ourselves that we have to do this together. as we move forward and whoever this enemy is, whoever did this attack tonight, domestic or foreign, we as community have to stand together. we cannot separate now. we just can't do it. >> cedric, you hit the nail on the head. you cannot understate the bravery of the police officers who ran toward the gunfire and protected those who needed safety. as we move forward, the question is why would they attack a peaceful protest? obviously tensions are high right now. it didn't seem like there was anything that would trigger this kind of violence. cedr cedric, how do you read that? >> it is very hard to read. this is still an active investigation. we don't know who these attackers are.
we don't know whether they are local, when they are part of some radical group or rather they are domestic in nature retaliating over what happened over the last few days. within a matter of hours and days, we will know more. from there, we will draw other conclusions around what was the motivation behind all of this. i'm reluctant to speculate at this point. this is going to be very revealing to all of us. >> there still is a situation under way. we should point out the breaking news situation we're in here. matt, let me talk to you about that. a man talking about the end is coming. he is inside a parking garage. apparently armed to the teeth. he is shooting at police officers. they are using the word negotiating. they have been talking to him. tell us about the tense moments there and what officers are trying to do right now to end
this situation. >> officers are trying to end this peacefully without more bloodshed if they can. this suspect has already demonstrated a cold and calculated disregard for people in general. as we talked about earlier, the way things are going and soup sounding, this will not end well for the suspect. >> the nerves of steel to talk to someone who has killed five of your colleagues. >> the police department is experienced. dallas has been here before. chief brown has been here before. we will win this battle today. >> matt horace and cedric alexander, thank you for walking us through this. we have five police officers who are now dead. we have six other police officers wounded. dallas police negotiating with one suspect holed up in a parking garage. the suspect claims more violence is coming. he claims bombs are everywhere. we will bring all of this to you live next. g' rosted -whe ...
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this is cnn breaking news. [ gunshots ] >> holy [ bleep ]. holy bleep. >> there's an officer down. i think another officer's down around the corner over here. they got s.w.a.t. over here. i can't really -- i can't really get any closer. >> we're following breaking news right now. a horrific scene in dallas. snipers killing five police officers. wounding six others at a rally against police violence. thousands in the streets as the shooting began. three suspects in custody right now. welcome back to "early start."
i'm boris sanchez. >> i'm christine romans. a devastating night in dallas. a situation still under way. snipers shooting 11 police officers overnight. five of the officers are dead. thousands marching through the city protesting this week's police shootings in louisiana and minnesota. those police were protecting these mostly peaceful protesters. police say they are now in a tense standoff with one gunman holed up in a downtown two-story parking garage. there are three other suspects in custody. >> currently we are in negotiation ws with a suspect i the parking garage of el centro in downtown dallas. the suspect we are necessigotii within the last 45 minutes has been exchanging gunfire and not being cooperative.
before i came here, i asked for plans to end the standoff. as soon as i'm done here, i'll be presented with the plans. in addition to the second-floor garage as we recap the previous press release, we have in custody a female who was in the same area of the el centro garage. and we followed a mercedes with two suspects with camouflaged bags who officers ended up stopping on traffic in the oak cliff area near polk and 67th. they are in custody and in the process of being interviewed. the suspect we are negotiating with that has exchanged gunfire with us over the last 45 minutes has told our negotiators that
the end is coming and he's going to hurt and kill more of us meaning law enforcement and there are bombs all over the place in this garage and in downtown. so we are being very careful in our tactics so we don't injure or put any of our officers in harm's way, including the citizens of dallas as we negotiate further. we still don't have a complete comfort level that we have all of the suspects. so we will continue a very, very rigorous investigation and search of downtown. we will likely be working throughout the early morning hours of friday until we are satisfied that all suspects have been captured and have an
opportunity to be interviewed so we can fully understand what's motivated this attack on our officers. >> for the very latest, i want to bring in polo sandoval. people are describing a peaceful protest. people protesting and the police protesting their right to do so and suddenly snipers almost triangulating on police officers. two from elevated positions. >> reporter: those are the initial reports, christine. a peaceful protest. one of several across the country. we are here in atlanta at one last night. obviously in dallas, a different outcome. a violent one as the familiar call for justice was quickly drowned out by the sound of rapid fire. you see video shot on the ground. you see people walking down the street with signs in hands and
seconds later, scrambling for cover, not just protesters, but officers that were there to protect them as they exercise their right to free speech. many grabbing their phones and webcasting and also capturing the moment. one in particular, ismael dejesus. he was in his hotel and he heard popping noises. that's when he looked out the window and grabbed his phone and captured a horrifying scene. >> basically came out to the balcony. i did hear some popping sounds. i thought it was fireworks at first. came out. man had a rifle. ar-15 clear as day. pretty big magazine. you could see toward the end video here, he drops a few mags. >> this is him behind the railing next to the column? >> this is him right here to the
right of that white pillar. you know, shooting to the left. his head turns to the right and shoots on the other side of the pillar. he was shooting and aiming at somebody. then he turned around and checked his back to make sure no one was coming. the officer did come across the right side of the screen to that pillar to the right. and tried to take him alone in a firefight. it didn't end very well. it was very tragic. >> that's the officer getting shot right there? >> no, i didn't get the video of the officer getting shot. that is the officer down right there. it was -- it looked like an excuse execution, honestly. he was already down and shot him
three or four times in the back. at that time i didn't know if he was confirmed dead obviously. he was down for four or five minutes before anybody could come to him. >> you started filming. you said the shooter had lots of 30 round magazines? >> that's my guesstimate. they were not short mags. they were high class magazines. >> so many you said they were falling out of his pockets? >> yeah, he dropped about two of them. he dropped two of them coming out of his pockets. he had multiple pockets. you cannot see with the resolution in the video. >> you said it looked like he was wearing body armor? >> it looked like he was wearing something underneath his shirt. the police officer did shoot him in the back, but it did not faze him. he just turned around and shot the officer like nothing ever happened. i can only assume there unless
he was a really, really big guy, he had some body armor on underneath that shirt. >> reporter: you heard from ismael dejesus who spoke with don lemon. you will learn the first officer to be identified now we understand his name is officer brent thompson. he was 43 years old. killed during the shooting. he is the first dallas area rapid transit officer to be killed in the line of duty. he joined the agency in 2009. dallas mayor mike rawlings asking for prayers and to keep not only his family and their thoughts and other four officers that were killed and wounded. lives will change for many people there. the mayor recommending people who are living in the area or working in the area to simply stay home as the heart of the major american city is now a giant crime scene. >> polo, i cannot imagine the
investigation under way right now. especially with a suspect claiming there are bombs located around the city. to help us break down the scope of the attacks we are joined by cedric alexander. also with us is former atf executive matt horace. matt, i wanted to start with you. something we have been discussing, there is more than one suspect. we have seen lone wolf attackers before. we have seen it in san bernardino and orlando. what does this tell you about this attack? >> it tells us it was planned. this wasn't a random act. four suspects, at least four, maybe more. we will learn that as the day goes on. this was calculated and planned. >> it may not be in response to the last couple days of what we have seen around the country.
it could be an opportunity for a large group of people. >> we have to keep open that window that this may be terrorism. >> the gunman who is holed up in the parking garage saying there are bombs planted everywhere. cedric, we heard that from the shooter in orlando. almost the embellishment of grandiocity. what do you make of the bomb claim? >> it may not be fear. it may be realistic. we saw this in san bernardino. except for the ieds did not go off. the possibility if you consider the weaponry they used last night to kill and wound those officers. the possibility is there. dallas will proceed with caution. they will cordon off that area and search that area to make sure when they open that scene back up that they are safe and the citizens are safe in dallas.
nothing can be minimized at this point. we have to take all precaution and take seriously. they could be ieds in the area. they will take the proper precaution. >> matt, we asked this of cedric earlier of the level of skill. when you watch some of the video and the way the gunman moves behind the column. you hear from a witnesses the way they were clearly orchestrating this attack. what does that tell you the level of training? how do you read the suspect? >> watching that attack the way they were advancing and retreating. it is almost like they had prior tactical training in the military or some police service. this was not your standard every day criminal that not know what they were doing. high power weaponry. tactical gear. a lot of rounds. let's not forget. this is a huge crime scene. now anywhere you can find ammunition is a part of the
scene. that whole idea with the explosives, we heard that before. there was another incident in dallas/ft. worth last year. the gunman did leave explosive devices in other areas. this may take time to fully mitiga mitigate. that is why they want people to stay home. >> it is 3:43 a.m. in dallas. you will have a friday morning commute coming up. you have public transportation which is shutdown. the area down there in downtown is cordoned off. early reports, especially hours after this event, the event is still ongoing. early reports can end up being wrong frankly. cedric, one of the people in custody according to the police chief is a woman. you know, i go back to san bernardino. i go back to the wife in the investigation in the orlando shooting. what do you make of the fact that one of the people in custody is a woman? >> it is not unusual. certainly not unlikely.
if we consider san bernardino the subject farook was a female. so as far as we know, there could be a female that is holed up inside of that garage. so we don't know. certainly this was a planned attack and well coordinated. my sense is because this incidents that occurred in minneapolis and in louisiana occurred only a couple days ago, they probably had been planning this attack. there was an opportunity very recently that protests were called in dallas and may have taken advantage of that opportunity to launch this attack, which was the attack they may have planned to do anyway. we will see as time goes on. >> we bring up the fact one of those in custody is a female because we keep saying gunman. the gunman is our reaction or
shooter and the perception is that is a man. one woman is in custody. >> cedric and matt, thank you. we will keep you around. we want to go right now to on the ground in dallas, sara sidner is there. you are on the scene of the standoff. what are you seeing? >> reporter: boris, there have been flash bangs. witnesses talking about the fact they saw s.w.a.t. teams gogging into el centro college. that is happening over the past hour. if you look over my shoulders, you will see a huge number of police cars here on main street. this is the main drag through downtown. just behind me you will see the bank of america building. the building with the green lights on it. there is a mcdonald's a way up. people were hearing sounds of gunshots a block over. we are close to city hall. a couple blocks from city hall.
a federal building there. people were evacuated from those buildings and they could not get to their cars because the area is blocked off. big police presence. we are not seeing the intensity on some of the officers' faces that people were saying in the beginning. there is a bit of calm now. they believe they have cornered whoever is responsible for the devastating shooting. what you are seeing now is a huge presence. they are concentrating at even centro college. they were first in the parking garage. now a lot of police activity actually at the building of the college. that's where they are saying they believe the shooters may now be. boris. >> sara, it is interesting. we are looking at the video coming through. this is christine.
you are seeing police officers who are helping the protests and taking selfies with the protesters in shorts. it's a summer evening. they are frankly a very peaceful situation. this is not one of the situation where is you have police officers who are in tactical gear or police officers who almost look militarized. this is now a police department devastated. now they were targeted. >> reporter: i would say this, if you look at the scene before the shooting began, there was a peaceful protest. they were protesting against police brutality. yes, police officers were out. they were not in a confrontational type of situation. we need to be extremely careful about saying anything that was going on with the protests had anything to do with the shooting. if you look at the scenario
right now and talk to police experts as i have done today, they say this looks like this was planned. whether they took advantage of the protest and decided to go ahead and target police officers or not, we don't yet know. it is very dangerous right now to try to link these protests and shooting if any particular way. we need to wait and see what police say about the suspects once they are able to get them into custody or at this point because they have taken out five officers. killed five officers. leaving six others wounded. this is an absolute day of massacre for the police department and for the b.a.r.t. police department. excuse me. d.a. r.t. this is unprecedented. hear in dallas, you can certainly feel the sorrow and feel the intensity. not just of the officers, but
community here. we need to be careful about what we say about the protests and the shooting. two separate things that we know of right now and we do not know if there is any link between the two. we do know there was one gentlemen the police put a picture of saying the police said this is a person of interest. the person has come forward saying i had nothing to do with this. come to the police saying i had nothing to do with this. he is very angry at this hour. he didn't want to be linked to this. he was there during the protests. this is the information that we in the media and the public needs to be very careful with. don't start blaming people and bring the anger higher than it needs to be. this is a community that has been devastated by this. >> you are exactly right by this. our sources and law enforcement
experts are saying the same thing you are saying. it is a tragedy which was a peaceful protests. many guests are saying they feel outsiders were using that as an opportunity. >> a huge crowd of people. many unarmed. if you are looking for a target, it makes sense. >> sara, work your sources. right now the president is in poland for the nato summit. he has been briefed on the shootings in dallas. he will offer his reaction within the next 30 minutes after arriving in warsaw. he addressed the shootings by police in louisiana and minnesota saying we have seen these tragedies quote too many times. let's bring in nic robertson in warsaw for us. good morning, nic. >> reporter: good morning, christine. president obama talked about there being biases and some conscience and some that need to
be rooted out. a big chunk of our fellow citizens feel they are treated unfairly because of their color. he went on to quote statistics. african-americans, 30% more likely to be pulled over. hispanics and african-americans, if they are pulled over, three times more likely to be searched. he talked about the respect that he has and the united states has for law enforcement officers. their right to go to work and come home to their families. he asked people to step back and pause and consider that for a while. this is what he said. >> let me just say we have extraordinary appreciation and respect for the vast majority of police officers who put their lives on the line to protect us every single day. they have a dangerous job. it is a tough job. and as i said before, they have a right to go home to their families. just like anybody else on the
job. but when we see data that indicates disparities in how african-americans and latinos may be treated in various jurisdiction around the country. it is incumbent upon all of us to say we can do better than this. >> reporter: now the president is going to continue to be updated about the situation in dallas. he is expected to speak soon. the meeting he is having here is hugely important. meeting with the european partners about tackling the global threat of terrorism and big meetings with the europeans about the brexit and potential financial implications across the globe. he has a lot to say about that. right now, the issue of dallas is one he is getting information. >> those, nic, are saying this
is a tough time for the president to be abroad. a painful moment before dallas with the tension between police and the protests. not the protesters, but police are not protecting everyone equally. and now this happens in dallas and he is there. >> reporter: and this is something obviously the reason we would expect him and he is expected to be speaking. he came in and when he spoke, as soon as he got off air force one, he wanted to address the shootings in louisiana and minnesota. he wanted to address that. but of course that was before the events took place in dallas. he has been very keen and clear to stress the importance of pausing and not slipping into the usual political rhetoric of trying to score points of taking one side against another.
he called in a way for seeing the potential for issues to arise and called for people to pause and think. this, of course, is an issue that will dominate his attention here. unfortunately as he has big issues on his plate. >> thank you, nic robertson. >> we want to get everyone up to speed on the breaking news in dallas. snipers opening fire on police last night as thousands protesting deadly shootings by officers in minnesota and louisiana. five officers have been killed. six others wounded. there are three suspects in custody right now. dallas police have been in a hours long tense standoff with one gunman holed up in a downtown parking garage. it has been a horrific night for the city of dallas. the whole city is shutdown. look at the video of the sniper accounts taken by eyewitnesss.
[ gunshots ] >> blacks, whites, latinos. a mixed community protesting. this just came out of nowhere. >> somebody's really armed to the teeth. this is not one person. >> this just came out of nowhere. as a matter of fact we were at the end of the protest when the shots started firing off. >> let's go. get back! back!
let's go! let's go! >> all of a sudden i saw and heard six to eight shots. it looked like two officers went down. i didn't have time to get a good look. i ran back. i was screaming run, run, run. active shooter. active shooter. [ gunshots ] >> let's all come together and support our police officers. please let's come together right now as a city. >> joining us right now is cedric alexander and former atf executive matt horace. we have been discussing the officer involved shootings. it is too early to know if there is a connection between dallas
and the shootings. what does it issay to you with e tension in the law enforcement and civilians in the country. how do we move forward? >> we have to determine the motive in dallas. that aside and we look at the two shootings, one in minnesota and one in baton rouge. that is very shocking and very disturbing to this nature in and of itself to this nation in and of itself. people are highly bothered by those interactions between the police and the community members who lost their lives. people are still reeling from that. on top of that, last night, we have this situation that occurred where we lose five police officers and six severely injured. it has totally devastated that community and it certainly has devastated this country. so we just can't read any more
into it than what we already know and continue to try to move forward and think as to how we will continue to work together both police and community and not allow this to separate us by any kind of imagination. we are at a point in time in this country at this moment where we need to be able to stand together. the great majority of the police officers doing their job every day are good men and women. the people in the country are hard working people who want to take care of themselves and take care of their families regardless of what community they live in. we have to continue to move forward together and try to work through some of the challenge we have with our community and police. >> well said. matt horace, final thought for you? if they can talk to the suspect and find out what could have
motivated the person holed up in that parking garage, then we will know more about why this happened. >> 100%. let's not forget. this is the worst mass law enforcement casualty since 9/11. my heart and prayers go out to the families and victims here. we cannot let it go. we have to keep the discussion going about the law enforcement shootings and public perception and community perception. once the discussion stops, things quiet down until the next issue. >> you are right on that. in terms of motive, we don't know what the motive here. what motivated the attackers and how long they planned it. gentlemen, thank you so much. cedric and matt. we have five officers killed. six wounded. snipers ambushed a police violence protest. president obama set to address that tragedy.
"new day" starts right now. this is cnn breaking news. welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." you have john berman and chris cuomo here. the worst kind of history. the deadliest day since 9/11. five police officers murdered. at least 11 shot during protests in dallas. they were ambushed by snipers. >> eyewitnesss capture the execution-style killings on cell phone video. the officers were there protecting a peaceful protest in downtown dallas following the shootings of two african-american men in louisiana and minnesota. dallas police exchanged gunfire with one of the gunmen in an hours long standoff. three other suspects are in police custody. president obama is expected to address the