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inspired by this black lives matter movement, obviously, we don't know if he had any ties at all to this group. or to this martha was taking place last night in dallas. >> ben ferguson, the chief of police, david brown is african-american, was speaking there, abnd he said police do feel under a lot of pressure. he said we don't feel much support most days. don't let today be most days, the chief said. he noted the bravery of those overnight who were running toward gunfire, who made sure the incident wasn't even worst than it was. this horrific incident and he talked about their bravery. >> this speaks volumes to how police feel all over the country. i mean, my father wears a badge. i grew up in a police family. air seeing an african-american police chief who in one of the most diversified police departments in the america, has incredible relations with the community.
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coming out on tv and say i do not, and my officers do not and we do not feel like we have support from the community. i don't think he is even talking outside of dallas. i think he is talking about directly here, when he goes to work as an african-american man and puts a badge on, he is saying most days, i do not feel support. this is an alarming moment for the entire country. we have got to reverse this. the police officers that i've talked that protect and serve in this area who were on the scene last night, they were echoing from last night all the way until you heard this police chief, who is african-american say this. we feel like we are at war. we feel lining people want to kill us. we feel like people hate us. that's what you saw from a police chief, who is in a very diversified unbelievably cooperative police force. there has not been issues with racism in the dallas area. this police chief is a guy that is one of those that is doing it
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so well, and his officers are doing so well, the d.a.r.t. officer that was shot and killed, d.a.r.t. are community policemen. they're on the public transportation to help protect people. they have incredible relations with the people that use public transportation, and you heard him say it, and i think it is important. we have got to change this narrative that police officers are not evil people. >> all right, phil banks let me get you in on this. the ideas of balancing what these different pressures sometimes hostilities are, when these shootings come up and there is a semblance of justice, there is this negativity towards the police. then if the pendulum you get to where ben is, potential murders themselves. where do we find the balance? >> i have a slight difference of opinion than ben. i think in a day by day basis, the community, especially
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african-american, latino is very supportive of the police officers. if you question police officers while riding in the cars and walking, everyday the actions that they have from the communities are very supportive. the african-american and latino know, we need the police, we love the police, we support the police. we need to separate the fact that someone is looking to make a change. i think that we would be remiss if we didn't bring out that the criminal justice system has been ripe with racism. for you to ask for a change or look for support does not mean that you are antipolice. it means you're supportive of police and that together, we can do better. certainly, i understand police officers feeling. reading the paper and, look, some agitators may have political motivations, their message is over valued, and therefore, i can understand how the police department on a regular basis can feel as though that we are under attack. i think by and large, the majority of the people in these communities love the police,
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support the police and need the police. i think they express that. >> thank you, gentlemen. the breaking news overnight, five law enforcement officials killed. four dallas pd, one transit authority, 12 others injured. most of the injured are doing okay at this point. two civilians injured as well. the suspect, killed at this point. they're still looking for others, but they think he probably acted alone. a suspect who told police he was out to kill white people, specifically white police officers. >> a lot to cover here. a lot of open questions, cnn will stay on this story. the dallas ambush. it will continue right now with wolf blitzer. all right, guys, thanks very much. an extraordinarily tragic night. "newsroom," a special edition, starts right now. good morning, and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. thank you for joining us. ambush in dallas.
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the city's downtown transformed into a killing field. perched high above a peaceful protest in dallas, opens fire. the demonstration against recent officer involved killings, just moments ago, you heard it live here on cnn. police reveal there was a major motivation for the gunman in question, who was killed by a robot, when a bomb, with a bomb that robot had a bomb when negotiations failed. >> to update you on what has transpired since we last spoke, let me walk through the standoff that had occurred, or that was occurring at el centro on the
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second floor. the college there in downtown dallas. we cornered one suspect, and we tried to negotiate for several hours, negotiations broke down. we had an exchange of gunfire with the suspect. we saw no other option, but to use our bomb robot, and place a device on the -- its extension for it to detonate where the suspect was. other options would have exposed the officers to grave danger. the suspect is deceased as a result of the detonating the bomb. the reporting that the suspect killed himself is not accurate.
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we've confirmed that he has been deceased because of the detonation of the bomb. our hostage negotiator did an exceptional job getting this suspect to talk before he died during the hours of negotiating that eventually broke down. i want to share with you some of the comments from this suspect. the suspect said he was upset about black lives matter. he said he was upset about the recent police shootings. the suspect said he was upset at white people. the suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. the suspect stated he will eventually -- that we'll eventually find the ieds.
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the suspect stated he was not affiliated with any groups, and he stated that he did that lois alone. the suspect said other things that are part of this investigation, so we can make sure that everyone associated with this tragic event is brought to justice. so as the mayor said, we won't expand on any further on what other suspects we have interviewed or looked at or their status, until we get further into this investigation and get closer to a conclusion of what and who are all involved.
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>> the sniper gunned down 12 police officers, mingling with demonstrato demonstrators. five of the police officers were murdered, seven wounded. two civilians also were hurt. the dallas morning news capturing the shock before the death toll was finalized. ambush, the headline screams. here is the frantic radio traffic of police officers, pinned down in the area.
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as a police motorcycle leaves the procession of the slain officers, this, the deadliest day for police officers here in the united states since 9/11. our correspondents and guests are covering all of the breaking developments. we we'll take a look at all of this. sara sidner is live at the scene. >> reporter: wolf, i want you to look at the scene behind me. basically, this was absolutely full of police officers. their cars. some of them in gear in order to go into the building, and now it is much removed. there is still a scene. there is still an area blocked off here downtown. people are coming down, trying to go to their jobs. they cannot do so. we've heard a lot from the dallas police chief just now. he talked earlier about how much
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he felt, how much pride he felt in the way that his officers handled this situation. this day started out with an intense amount of fear and adrenaline. that fear and adrenaline, turning to sorrow. >> dallas police officers and d.a.r.t. police officers, some of the bravest men and women you would ever want to be associated with. you see video footage after video footage of them running toward gunfire from an elevated position, and with no chance to protect themselves. and to put themselves in harm's way to make sure citizens can get to a place of security. >> reporter: and just behind our camera, i want to mention something. we're right now watching as the
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city of dallas flag is being lowered to half staff here on main street. we will see the other flags lowered as well. i do want to talk about, though, what started all of this. at 9:00, this place turned into what felt like to many a war zone. chaos erupting on the streets in dallas at 9:00 p.m. >> someone is armed to the t. >> reporter: gunshots raining down from the sky. officers taking cover. >> move back! get back! >> reporter: protesters scattering, as their peaceful march wound down. >> i would say about 20 gunshots, rapid succession. >> i was screaming, run, run, active shooter. >> somebody turned around him and he got shot and hit, boom, boom, boom, kept going. >> reporter: around 10:30, police confirming snipers in elevated positions targeting officers, picking them off,
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ambush tile, in what appears to be a coordinated attack. just before midnight, law enforcement officers cornering a suspect at el centro garage downtown. >> they might have got somebody. >> reporter: one witness, catching the standoff unfolding from the ground, police exchanging gunfire for over 45 minutes while trying to negotiate. >> somebody else is down over there. >> reporter: one officer trying to get the shooter off-guard, sadly shot down another witness capturing the suspect from above wearing body armor, ammunition falling out of his pocket. >> i've been hearing popping sounds. i thought it was fireworks at first. i came out, man had a rifle, ar-15, clear as day. it did look planned. he just parked, and he knew where to stand and opened fire. he had ammo ready. he was ready to go. >> reporter: police say one suspect has been killed. >> the suspect told the
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negotiators that the end is coming, and that there are bombs all over the place in this garage, and in downtown. >> reporter: but police say they have three people in custody, including a woman who was in the vicinity of the garage, and two suspects carrying a camouflage bag. they were stopped on the interstate. >> to say that the police officers put their life on the line everyday is no hyperbole. we as a country must come together, lock arms, and heal the wounds that we all feel from time to time. >> reporter: and what we are seeing here is now another flag going to half staff. it is the state of texas flag, next will be the american flag. an emotional scene right now, as police officers continue to do their job. we've also been told that they're telling folks not to necessarily come down here to go to work today, because this area is a crime scene.
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you can imagine after 45 minutes of bullets flying back and forth from the suspect to police and police back at the suspect, that there is going to be a lot of forensic evidence that they need to collect. wolf. >> vsara, we learned a little bt about the bomb explosion, and we don't know a lot, other than he wanted to kill white people, he wanted to especially kill white police officers. he was angry about black lives matter. what else have you learned about this individual? >> reporter: yeah, he also said to police that he acted alone, according to the police. and we're hearing from investigators that there are no, at this point no indications that there is any connection with international terrorist organizations. we have heard from police that the suspect said he was not affiliated with any group or organization, and so that's coming from the police
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themselves. we're also hearing from investigators from their looking into this, and from their digging into trying to find out about the background of this person, that so far, no links to foreign terror organizations. what people are saying here, though, is right now, that doesn't matter. because to them, this is terrorism. whether it be domestic or international. to them, this is a day of terror, that the residents and the police officers have experienced here in dallas. it is a hearbreaking day for everyone, especially, of course, and most poignantly, of course, for the families of the officer who have been killed and wounded. wolf. >> five killed, seven injured. let's hope those seven who are injured, they're going to be okay. all right, sara, stand by. i want to bring in kylong. what are you seeing, what are you hearing over there? >> reporter: well, wolf, if there is any good news out of what we heard from that press conference with the police chief is that he announced that of
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those seven officers who were wounded and taken to hospitals like this one and another hospital, parkland, most of those officers have gone through surgery and they are either released or in the process of being released. so at least with those conditions, that is certainly some positive news out of this. it has been a very rough night, though, out here at the two area hospitals, where those officers were taken. because many of those officers who arrived here, some of them just did not survive. those five officers we've been talking about throughout the day, on this deadliest day for law enforcement since 9/11, what we've seen outside baylor university medical center is officers, who have been holding vigil, and in a very unusual sign of unity from the hospital, we saw some of the employees here come down to the very front of the emergency room and we saw them link arms, stand shoulder to shoulder. created a human wall between
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where the officers were standing and the public, and the reason why is one of the officers told us that what was happening, just behind where those employees were creating that wall, they had lined the path, they were saluting two gurneys that were exiting from the emergency room and on those two gurneys was a dallas police officer and a d.a.r.t. police who died. the regional transportation police officer who also did not survive. their bodies loaded into a white van, and that van taken away. police officers here, holding a vigil, a memorial for their fellow fallen officers. so that's something we've seen here at this hospital. we don't know yet who those two officers are, or any of the other officers, except for one. 43-year-old brent thompson. he is a d.a.r.t. officer, dallas regional -- dallas area rapid transit officer.
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he is an officer who went overseas. in his linkedin account, he wanted to train those officers overseas, so that they could understand the teamwork that is required for policing. then when he came back here, he wanted to start a life. he became a police officer, and just two weeks ago, he got married. he married a fellow d.a.r.t. police officer. so we're going to start hear more of these stories, wolf, about who these people are. not just the way they died, but the way they lived, wolf. >> our deepest, deepest condolences to that police officer from the d.a.r.t., dallas area rapid transit system, who served in iraq and afghanistan, came back fine. only to get killed in dallas, texas. how hearbreaking is that, coming a few weeks after he was married. we're going to get back to you. we have a lot to discuss. we have a panel of experts standing by.
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they'll be joining us in a few moments. first, here is what president obama had to say about the ambush in dallas. >> we still don't know all the facts. what we do know is that there has been a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement police in dallas were on duty during -- doing their jobs, keeping people safe during peaceful protests. i believe i speak for every single american when i say that we are horrified over these events, and that we stand united with the people and the police department in dallas. there is no possible justification for these kinds of attacks, or any violence towards law enforcement. the fbi is in touch with the dallas police, and anyone involved in these senseless murders will be held fully accountable. justice will be done.
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the suspect said he was upset about black lives matter. he said he was upset about the recent police shootings. the suspect said he was upset at white people. the suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. >> the dallas police chief, david brown, speaking moments ago. welcome back to our breaks news coverage of the ambush in dallas. a devastating historic day in dallas. five murdered, as a sniper
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launches an attack. the worst loss for law enforcement here in the united states since 9/11. let's bring in the panel of experts joining us. senior law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes, joey jackson, and jeffrey martin. to all of you, thanks very much for joining us. tom, even as we're speaking about this horrendous situation in dallas that has unfolded overnight, we're getting word there is a lockdown here in washington up on capitol hill. apparently something happened that triggered a lockdown at the raber house office building. we're watching that story carefully. a lockdown on capitol hill right now. we'll see what that unfolds and we'll have more information as it develops. but that's obviously a disturbing development as well. you served in the fbi for a long time, tom. before that you were a police officer, yourself. when you hear, and you see the
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anguish from that dallas police chief, david brown, it came through his comments obviously very poignantly, what goes through your mind when you see these awful developments that occurred overnight? >> first thing is how do we as a saturday deescalate this. because you know, we've had antilaw enforcement rhetoric now for a couple of years, in some cases, it may be deserved, in some cases it wasn't. and when that goes out, people may get inspired to do something. we talk about the inspiration of isis when they hear messaging, and it causes them to take action. we have a similar circumstance here. we have enough wacko people in this country as well. you wonder, how do we bring a stop to this. you know, very good friend of mine, phil grievos, a retired fbi agent ran their swat program and he said i'm afraid we're going to have dead officers by the end of the week. >> he said this before.
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>> before dallas. >> because of the rhetoric. >> because of the anguish of the victims in louisiana, as well as in minnesota. it wasn't being critical of, you know, it was saying, look, these police officers, you know, shouldn't be doing this. don't they understand what is going on. don't they understand to be more sensitive. but i see instances over and over where police departments say we're not going to spend the money to have a good auto screening program. we're not going to spend the money to have a good training program. and then they turn around and we've heard almost one after the other after the other later pay $6 million to the family of tamir rice, the family of laquon mcdonald, so you hear, you know, and you say to yourself, that would pay for training and screening for the next 25 years for your department. when are the police chiefs and the public officials going to get the message that we need everything. screening, training, discipline, and good community policing. >> these are live pictures we're
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showing the viewers of dallas. they're still investigating. this was a sophisticated operation. it was going on for 45 minutes, they were trying to get this guy, but they eventually had to send a robot with an explosive device to get the individual and blow him up. >> we had an incident where dallas police headquarters was attacked by somebody, and witnesses thought it was three, four, five shooters. in a tall building area like downtown dallas, it creates an echo canyon. one shot can echo and sound like five. not the bullet, but the sound of it bouncing around. so that creates a lot of confusion. >> he must have of some sort of sofr indicated training. he was gunning down police officers over a long period of time. >> he was. and you know, i've reviewed a number of the cases that the fbi has had over the last few years regardingmalacia groups and hate groups and arrion brotherhood,
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and it turns out that texas has the most hate groups of any state in the country and you hear reports that they're out in the open land, or in the, you know, the fields, practicing, shooting, shooting, shooting. so maybe they had military or he had military training, and maybe he just spent a lot of time practicing. the shooting here, we know one of the police officers was gunned down point-blank, and then he shot three or four more bullets on the officer on the ground. some of these were a pretty fair distance. even with an assault rifle, to hit your targets at that distance, you need to be able to aim well, you need some proficiency with that firearm. >> jeffrey martin, i'm anxious to get your reaction as well. you have unique perspective. you're the president of the naacp in st. paul. we know what happened in minnesota yesterday. when a black man was shot by a police officer, and that caused a lot of outrage. what is your reaction to the horrendous events that occurred
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in dallas? >> well, of course, wolf, i'm horrified by what has happened in dallas. of course, the naacp does not condone violence in any way, shape or form. the discussion were the panelists how do we deescalate the situation, we have to find a way. i mean, there is no way that we can let this escalate behind the point of where it is. i don't want america to think that our community, the african-american community or any community of color is a community that can be radicalized to go out and do this type of act. this seems to be a person who is mentally deranged, and has been acting alone. however, we are definitely disturbed by that. we're working with our partnerships here in the community in st. paul to make sure that we're getting the right messaging out to our community, to let them know we're working together to solve the issues that we have in our area. i'm a going to meet with the falcon heights mayor later this afternoon and start working on a
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plan to address the issues within the st. anthony police departments and what he can do as the mayor of falcon heights to make sure that those that he have contracts with abide by his vision of equitable society. >> i've spoken in the past couple of days with cornell brooks, the national president of the naacp. he clearly wants greater involvement, greater coordination policing, better policing all over the country. how closely are you working, jeffrey with police in not only in st. paul, but throughout minnesota right now, especially at this sensitive moment? >> well, we are, we do have a great relationship with st. paul police department. we were involved in the hiring of the current chief, and we've had great relationships with the three police chiefs prior. we're doing well in st. paul. what we're trying to do is widen our influence and our working
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relationships with law enforcement agencies throughout the state. i'm the first vice-president for the minnesota states conference, and as a state conference, we're trying to develop long lasting relationships with each police department and make sure they're following through with president obama's initiative on police reform. make sure they're adopting what that task force found, and put those things into action. we're moving into the right direction. we have hot spots and tensions we have to work through, especially in minneapolis and getting a more consistent dialogue. but however, i think we're moving in the right direction. >> that's encouraging to hear that. joey jackson, take us behind the scenes. we're showing our viewers live pictures, on the scene in the dallas area where this horrific incident occurred. i assume they're looking for other suspects right you know. what do you suspect, what do you believe is going on? >> well, wolf, they certainly are. i mean, obviously, we have a significant problem in this
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country, and yes, what they're going to do is going to look and see who if anyone else was participating in this. who aided, who a betted, who assisted, whoever was involved and those people will be brought to justice. any suspects, they'll be questioning them and talking to them and looking for forensic evidence and any other evidence. you know, it is appalling what occurred. absolutely appalling that someone would have the irrationality to be involved in this. it is such a broad issue. beyond what they do here in bringing people to justice, so that it doesn't happen again, there needs be to be a broader national discussion. there is a significant problem. is there a bridge. it needs to be -- there needs to be -- it is a tremendous gap. certainly that divide needs to be narrowed. to the broader issue, if i might, it starts certainly with, you know, just a police understanding what they do, understanding the dangers of their job. understanding and respecting that and then the police having
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a greater understanding and sensitivity for the communities that they're serving. we can talk about this and we have talked about this, but it is a time i think to get involved. i don't even know, wolf that really calls for or even can be solved legislatively. we could pass all types of laws. it really calls for more action than that, bringing together leaders, whether they're community leaders, elected officials, clergy members. there is a significant problem. until we resolve the problem of the understanding of mutual respect of, you know, just dialoguing between police and communities, it will go on and on and on. you cannot retaliate and kill police officers. at the same time, obviously you want police in communities to be sensitive to the policing and what they're doing there. but it is just such a sick thing to have to deal with, and have to talk about. but it will continue to occur, unless that bridge is the gap is closed between policing and communities that they serve. >> i suspect police departments all across the united states
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right now, they are in a heightened state of alert, as this investigation in dallas continues. tom, joey, jeffrey, stand by. i want to check in with cnn's congressional correspondence dents, manu raju. very disturbing development, lockdown up on capitol hill right now. tell our viewers what you've learned. >> yeah, that's right, wolf. we're trying to gather all the facts about what exactly is going on. but the house and the senate proceedings have been delayed because the senate and the house are in a lockdown. that means that they're investigating a report of a person of interest. this is a statement from the u.s. capitol police out of abundance of caution. the us capitol and visitors center are on lockdown, while they investigate a person of interest, building occupants are advised to shelter in place, and wait for further instructions from the capitol police. a heightened sense of awareness, particularly after what we have noticed in the last several
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days, but we're still gathering facts about exactly what this person of interest brought, whether the person brought anything into the building or what the situation is exactly. right now, capitol police are being told is for all staff members and everybody who is in the capitol, members of congress, house is in session today, folks to stay in their offices and not leave while the police continue to investigate this person of interest. wolf. >> so everybody in the senate and house, all the office buildings, they have been told shelter in place right now. is that right? >> reporter: yeah. that's right. and it appears there was just an announcement right now that -- it said that according to what we're hearing, it says return to normal operations. we're not sure entirely sure what this means, wolf. clearly an unfolding situation happening at this very moment, but again, because of this such heightened security concerns, this is very unusual at the
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capitol would have been in lockdown for about 20 minutes, half an hour while they investigated, a quote, person of interest in the capitol complex, wolf. >> it looks like people are moving behind you. hopefully the situation has been resolved. we'll check back with you, manu, momentarily. up on capitol hill. we'll get back to the breaking news out of dallas. we've got much more information coming in the the president and the police chief of the dallas area, rapid transit system, they're standing by to join us. we'll talk about the death of police officer, brent thompson. our special coverage continues in just a moment.
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i want to update you first on the capitol hill lockdown that has been going on for almost a half an hour. good news, it has been lifted. members of the house, members of the senate, all the staff up on capitol hill, both sides were
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told to shelter in place. unclear why. we're getting more information. bottom line, the lockdown has been lifted. all clear up on capitol hill. let's continue to follow the breaking news out of dallas, texas. a sniper, as you know, opened fire in downtown dallas overnight. the target police officers at a peaceful protest against officer involved killings, 12 police officers are shot, five of them killed. last hour, the dallas police chief said the gunman had revealed his motives before he was killed. the police chief says he was angry over the police violence against african-americans, and wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers. police believe at least for now the suspect, who is dead, acted alone. we know the name of one of the fallen police officers, brent thompson. he was 43 years old, married within the last two weeks.
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thompson spent part of his career overseas, working as a security officer in both iraq and afghanistan. for more, i want to bring in two of thompson's colleague, d.a.r.t., dallas area rapid tran transit system, gary thompson and gart chief, james filler, who is also joining us now. thanks to both of you for joining us. our deepest condolences to you while his family an friends. first of all, what can you tell us about brent thompson? >> brent has been with the department since about 2006. he came from us from corser county, texas. he was a great police officer, serving dallas and customers that use our system. great family man. we are deeply sat endddened by
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loss. we're taking care of his family as well as the officers that were injured. >> do we know the circumstances how he was shot and killed? what he was doing at the time? >> the circumstances are yet being uncovered. dallas police department is handling the investigation, and we're working with them on that. you know, so that is yet being uncovered. and i'm sure there will be more coming out. that will be coming from dallas police department. >> gary, were other d.a.r.t., dallas area rapid transit police officers either shot or killed? >> this was the first officer in our history of our police department that has been shot and killed. there were three other officers that were injured, other d.a.r.t. officers that were injured last night. and so we're certainly praying
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for a quick recovery for them. >> how are they doing? >> well, they're doing well. all things considered, given the circumstances, they're doing well. they're nonlife threatening injuries, and again, we're doing everything we can to make sure that we support them during this time, and again, praying for a quick recovery. but they're good spirits. i visited with two of the three last night. chief spiller visited with all three. and they are professionals, through and through. it is their job. you don't plan on this. you don't count on it. but this is what they train for. this is what they plan for. they're professionals in everything that had he do. >> chief spiller, how are you and your men and women handling
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all of this? >> we're grieving. that's to be expected. but as mr. thomas said, we're yet going out performing our duty. we've received great support from local police departments here in the state of texas, as well as all across the united states to include canada and england, as well as from hearing from citizens also. we've made sure that we have grief counselors available to the officers, as well as medical personnel. we're communicating with them to make sure they knew what occurred. again, as mr. thomas said, what you did see was two police departments work together cohesively to make sure that the protesters were taken care of. someone brought backfire upon the suspect, so we could get back and take care of the fallen officers, and then could engage the suspect. and turn it over to the dallas police department, and it was a
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great unity of effort to make sure that those suspects were captured and/or taken care of, and that's kind of where we are. we're yet supporting dallas police department. our injured officers and families. we're really appreciative of the support we're getting from across the country. not just for us. d.a.r.t. police, but for dallas police department also. >> as fares you know, gary, is there still a search underway for other suspects? we heard the dallas police chief, david brown, say they believe this individual was acting alone. the sniper. but as far as you know, is there still an ongoing search? we're showing the viewers live pictures of the downtown area. >> well, the city of dallas and the dallas police department is doing the investigation. the so they are handling that. we'll wait to -- we'll assist
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we'll have much more on the breaking news, the dallas police shootings, in just a minute. first, i want to go to minnesota where we just heard from the family of philando castille. his fiance says she wants justice for everyone around the world. >> i don't want to keep reliving this moment. >> absolutely. >> i want my justice. i want that police officer's name to go public. and i want people to know who
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did this to us, who did this to our city, our state and our country. it's not -- it's not you, it's not you, it's not you. it's none of us. we didn't do this to ourselves and i just want the world to know that. >> meanwhile, minnesota's governor mark dayton says race did play a role in castile's death. brin gingras from st. paul, she's got the latest. >> justice for everyone is what the protesters have been telling us they want as well. they are expected to actually take to the streets at some point today, despite what happened in dallas, but, again, that is that same message. as far as the investigation goes, well, the state agency is still investigating, of course. the department of justice is overseeing it from afar. but the family in that same interview, wolf, was not
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satisfied with what. they want the d.o.j. to investigate. they also want to do their separate investigation. all of this as we are also learning the names of the two officers directly involved with the fatal shooting of castile. officer jergeronimo yanez identified as the man who shot and killed castile. >> i told him not to reach for it. >> another officer also at the scene. both now on administrative leave. they were not wearing body cameras, but state investigators say they have collected and are actively reviewing several other videos including police dash cam footage. >> please don't tell me my boyfriend just went like that. >> the shocking nearly ten-minute live stream video shot by castile's fiance moving thousands of protesters to take
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to the streets across the country. shutting down a major freeway in chicago. and struggling with police in times square demanding justice. the outrage over castile's met with a shocking admission of racism by minnesota governor mark dayton. >> would have that happened if those passengers, the driver, the passengers, were white? i don't think it would have. this kind of racism exists. >> dayton says he wants federal help in the investigation. >> it's incumbent upon all of us to vow we're going to do whatever we can to see it doesn't happen. it doesn't continue to happen. >> reynolds says she and her 4-year-old daughter diana, in the back seat at the time of the deadly shooting, were taken into custody, held for over seven hours. >> they manipulated me to go to the station where they agreed to feed us and give us water and they didn't. they separated myself and my
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daughter. >> in the video, you can hear reynold's daughter comforting her own mother in the back of the police car. >> it's okay, i'm right here with you. >> diana's grandmother fears at only 4 years old she will be scarred for life. >> we raise our kids to believe the police are here to protect us. i have a 4-year-old granddaughter who would beg to differ. what do i teach her? >> brynn, thank you very much for that. before his death, castile was a beloved school cafeteria manager at the jj hill montessori school. our guest watched castile with the children. thank you so much for joining us. our deepest condolences to you, everyone at the school.
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you say castile didn't just work with the kids, the students, he knew their names, knew things about them. tell us more about his interactions with the children there. what kind of person was he? >> such a -- mr. phil was just gentle, laid back, sweetheart. kids knew with him they would have everything they needed when they needed it. they could go to him for almost anything and that's a male role model for them that can never be replaced. >> was he, was he -- obviously, he was beloved at the school. what's been the reaction over there to especially among -- i know there's no school now because it's summer, but what's been the reaction among all of your friends, your relatives, all of the associates at the montessori school? >> we're just devastated, you know, this was a person who was our friend, our colleague. just the opposite of anyone you'd feel you'd need to defend
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yourself from. yesterday, we were planning to hold a vigil in the garden, small vigil, and it turned into thousands of people, and i saw several of my students standing up in the slide on the playground watching and taking this all in. probably not fully understanding what it means. i am grateful that it's summer, selfishly, because i don't know how to talk to them all about this, especially my little boys that look like phil, how do i explain that to them? i don't know. but come fall we're going to have to -- we're going to have to take them in arms and explain that this wonderful man they knew day to day is not coming back. and why, that's the question, right, how do i tell that to a 6-year-old? >> are you and your friends over there, your colleagues, associates, are you getting some counseling right now? because you're going to have to deal with all these young kids once they come back to school
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after the summer and they're going to be asking questions. >> yes, they'll be crying, they'll be asking questions, they'll be wondering. right now, we are not doing anything like that as of yet. i think we're still reeling and in shock. yesterday was a big day and a big day to be together to see friends and hug and cry. but as the weeks go forward, i'm sure we will be aware of how we're going to deal with it as a staff and how we're going to talk to our kids as a united front and let them know this happened and give them an opportunity to make a difference in the world, you know, if they want to grow up, knowing they can do anything, i don't want to have to say to them, you know, because of the way you look, you might not be able to do what you want. >> i'm told, anna, like philando, you were recently pulled over, driving with a broken tail light, pulled over by police. but your experience was a lot different. you've been thinking about that,
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haven't you? >> i've been thinking about that a lot. i think about how when it happened i was -- my heart beats fast because i'm nervous but i'm not scared for my life. i'm not scared even of a ticket at times because that hasn't been my experience, to know that so many people have to worry or fear for their -- i mean, their, their life, because of something that's wrong with their car. i told them i was getting it fixed and he let me go. i know full well that it's because of the way i look. one final thought about orlando. >> oh, that guy. just the biggest heart. the biggest sweetheart. he did everything for those kids. i just would love to see people stop being so scared of each other and start to figure out a
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way to see -- see people for who they are in their soul. philando -- i can't call him that, mr. phil, i miss you so much and i weep for the opportunities these children would have had because of you in the future that are now lost. >> anna, thank you so much for joining us, our deepest condolences to you and his other friends, certainly his family out there in minnesota, thank you so much. we have much more on the police officers killed in dallas coming up. the next hour of "newsroom" starts right now. good morning. i'm wolf blitzer in for carol costello. we're following the breaking news. we're keeping a very close eye on capitol hill now where the congressional black caucus is getting ready to hold a news conference. it was initially scheduled to discuss the police involved
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killings of two african-american men. now it's sure to include that ambush in dallas. a sniper guns down 12 police officers, killing five of them. they were at a peaceful protest over this week's deadly shootings. the dallas police chief says that was a major motivation for the gunman. he was killed by a police explosion. but only after he ended talks with police. >> the suspect said he was upset about black lives matter. he said he was upset about the recent police shootings. the suspect said he was upset at white people. the suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. >> the dallas morning news capturing the shock even before
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the death toll has been finalized. ambush, you see it there, the headline screams. here is the frantic radio traffic of police officers pinned down in the area. >> assistant, officer, shots fired, code three, officer down. >> we don't know where the hell he's at. >> garage. >> slow down, he's in the damn building right there. we don't know where he's at. he's in that building. right across from that building. >> we have got to get -- down here, get them here. >> they're on their way. >> possibly in the el centro college building. >> inside the el centro building. inside the el centro building. >> sara sidner, kyung lah in dallas now. first sara give us the latest. >> we heard from chief brown who
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talked a lot about the suspect who is now diseased. he said he wouldn't say anything about the three other people who they have detained in connection potentially with the shootings. but he said the suspect did tell police he was acting alone but that he also wanted to kill white people and particularly kill white police officers. but that he was not affiliated with any other organization. that he was doing this because he was angry about what's happening in this country when it comes to police versus black americans. we also heard from the police chief exactly how the suspect ended up dying. >> we cornered one suspect and we tried to negotiate for several hours. negotiations broke down. we had an exchange of gunfire with the suspect. we saw no other option but to
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use our bomb robot and place a device on -- it's extension for it to detonate where the suspect was. other options would have exposed our officers to grave danger. the suspect is deceased. as a result of detonating the bomb. >> so you're hearing these extraordinary measures that police went to to try and save their officers and the public frankly and this is after five police officers had been killed, seven had been injured and two civilians, you're hearing there that police here in dallas used a robot and then detonated a bomb that was taking that robot into a school that's here.
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i also want to talk to you about what has happened since then. because what was fear has turned into sorrow, has turned into worry again about how this country is going to recover from all of this. not just the police shootings in dallas but the shootings of black american men at the hands of police that started some of the protests around the country, and we're listening now to police chief brown talking about how we need to bridge that divide. >> there are no words to describe the atrocity that occurred to our city. all i know is this, this must stop, this divisiveness between our police and our citizens. >> so you're hearing him say stop the divisiveness.
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we're also hearing that from some of those who took part in the protests here that took place just before the shootings happened. one of the comments from one of the young ladies who says it's the first time she decided to come out and march in anti-police brutality protests and she said, you know, we have to do something and we can't just do it as one group or another. this has to be a collective effort. police, the community, black folks, white folks, latino folks, everybody needs to come together. while that sounds like a kumbaya moment, that she said is the key to making america, putting america in a better place. >> good point, sara, thank you very much. we'll get back to you. i want to go to kyung lah, over at baylor university medical center in dallas. what's the latest you're hearing, kyung? >> if there was any good news out of the news conference you just heard sara talking about it was that he did say these seven
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police officers taken to area hospitals, we believe they were brought here to baylor and parkland hospital just on the other side of town, both level 1 trauma centers. the police chief says they've gone through surgery and most of them will be either released or in the process of being released so there is some good news about their conditions. throughout the night, it has been a gut-wrenching scene because it's not just the wounded who have been coming here but also the police officers who have been deceased. it has been very evident from what we've been seeing of the police officers who are coming, the ones who have been arriving in their various patrol cars and on their motorcycle units that for them this is like their family and that has become very, very clear. five police officers lost in this horrific shooting. the deadliest day for law enforcement since 9/11. and we don't know who they are
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yet. we don't know their identities except for one. his name is 43-year-old brent thompson. we know that he is a dallas area rapid transit officer. we've learned a few things about him. that he worked overseas as an independent police officer, contracted police officer training iraqi and afghani police to work as a team. that that was his goal. when he came back here, he really sought law enforcement as his passion, as his profession. here's what the president of d.a.r.t. told us. what he said was this is a man who just got married two weeks ago. he was someone who was looking up in his life, he was looking forward to expanding his life. this felt like his life was complete. in large part because the person
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he choose to marry was a fellow police officer, wolf. >> what a heartbreaking story, our deepest condolences to his family and his friends, kyung, thank you. we're joined by our panel, cnn's senior law enforcement analyst the former fbi assistant director tom fuentes is with us. retired new york city police detective joseph jacoloni, our legal analyst midwin charles, and lamont, a friend of the alton sterling family, the man shot and killed in confrontation with police in baton rouge, louisiana. let me start with you, joseph. the robot with the bomb that killed the sniper in dallas, that's a pretty startling development. what do you make of that tool that was used? >> yeah, absolutely. talk about the choice of last resort in that incident. this guy was going to kill more cops. even if you rushed in that place with long guns, the likelihood of another officer getting shot
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were pretty good. so unfortunately, the cheech ie to make a very tough decision. i'm sure he'll be second-guessed on this but i don't think there was any other way. besides sending in canines. that's one option i might have also looked at prior to that. >> tom fuentes, pretty extraordinary move, you send a robot in. he apparently had been firing that assault rifle for about 45 minutes. they send the robot with an explosive device, a bomb. it goes in there, blows it up and kills him. it's pretty extraordinary. >> that's a great idea, you know, threy negotiate, he wouldn't surrender. as police charge him, he's heavily armed. you're probably going to have another one or two or three dead officers. if you send the dog in, it takes a long time to train dogs to do this, so i just think this was
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the safest way to do it and hopefully the robot can be repaired. >> what about the apparent skill of the sniper? >> when you have this many officers shot in one series of shootings, that's pretty skillful shooter so i think the idea he could be dangerous until he takes his last breath or surrenders, there's no question about that in my mind. >> he must have had, joseph, some pretty sophisticated training to do what he did, don't you believe? >> sure, absolutely. maybe even some military training. if you see the one video where he charges the officer. that's like military-style training where you run towards your victim instead of retreat like officers are taught to. so that's something that's a concern. we don't know if he's part of a militia group or part of military training but he did receive some training or he did it himself, some extensive range shooting. >> lamont, you heard the police chief in dallas say the shooter while he was negotiating with the police, he said he wanted to
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kill white people, he wanted to kill especially white police officers. he was angered by black lives matter. when you heard all this, what went through your mind? >> i was outranged by that thought process. i don't think the black lives matter movement is about attacking any individuals in our country. i think it's simply about seeking justice. for an individual to take this movement and use it to harm people, to even kill police, it's extremely frustrating and it angered not only myself but people living here in the baton rouge community. by no means is this an attack on police officers. they go out every day and work extremely hard to protect us and to save lives. i think what we saw in dallas from those officers there was an extreme amount courage and so my condolences with the officers and my prayers with the residents who live in dallas but for that individual to say he was angry and wanted to kill
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white people and wanted to kill white officers is completely -- it's just amazing to me, it makes me angry, and i think that individual needed some serious, serious mental help for even having that thought process. >> i know you're involved with the naacp which is trying to do its best to calm things down. what's it like in baton rouge, a couple or three days after that horrific incident we all saw on video? >> amazingly, it is still peaceful here. there are peaceful protests being held all over the city, particularly in the area where the incident took place. residents are remaining peaceful. the outpouring of love and support for officer sterialton family has been overwhelming. there are people praying.
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people being peaceful. being trying to work together to bring calm to the city. we're remaining calm here. we're remaining peaceful. we don't want anyone in our city to get any stupid ideas about taking action against the police department for any reason like that. our focus is to remain peaceful but to also ask for justice and that's what we're trying to do and that is the feeling and mood here in baton rouge. >> well said. midwin, the mayor in dallas said suspects are in custody who are not being cooperative right now. the police chief said the sniper seems to have acted alone. what happened now, part of this investigation? >> well, i think what happened now is first of all i'm sure the suspects are going to get lawyers, they're going to get lawyered up, but this investigation is going to be incredibly broad. you're going to have to comb over the crime scene. make sure you recover the
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bullets and shell casings and make sure what happened. officers will delve deeply into this person's background and find out whether or not they're part of a large group, are there other people like this out there. when you consider the amount of damage and the amount of carnage this particular person inflicted, it's mind-boggling. it's my understanding one or two civilians were also shot. this person is not someone who cares about anyone's lives. this is not someone who cares about anyone's lives at all. and i am, you know, sort of disturbed that this particular person would seek to undermine the black lives matter movement by trying to say that he is somehow doing this as a result of what happened with the two african-americans who were killed by police officers. >> joseph, thank you. lamont cole, thanks to you. tom fuentes, standby.
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also had to let the healing be done as well. this has been a long week for our country. it's been a long month for america. we've seen terrible, terrible senseless things. every member of this body, every republican and every company wants to see less gun violence. every member of this body wants a world in which people feel safe regardless of the color of their skin. and that's not how people are feeling these days. sometimes we disagree on how to get there. sometimes we disagree passionately on how to get there. but in having this debate, let's not lose sight of the values that unite us. let's not lose sight in our
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common humanity. the values that brought those protesters to the streets in dallas. the values that brought those protesters to the streets in washington last night. respect. decency. compassion. humanity. if we lose those fundamental things, what's left? we need to take a moment here for reflection, for thought, for prayer, for justice, for action. right now, let's let justice be done and also let healing occur too. i yield. >> without objection, the gentle lady's recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. the ambush and murder of police officers during a peaceful protest is a tragedy that tears at the heart of every american.
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i agree with the speaker that episodes like this must not harden our divisions but should unify us as a country. we share in the shock and grief for the officers killed, their loved ones and the entire dallas community. when these officers left their homes earlier in the day, there's always the chance that they would be in danger. right now, we don't even know the names of all of them. the names have not been released. but i do want to acknowledge d.a.r.t. officer brent thompson, those officers whose names are not released and those who are wounded -- >> nancy pelosi, the top democrat in the house of representatives, the minority leader, speaking out.
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earlier, you heard house speaker paul ryan. obviously very, very moved by the horrendous situation that unfolded in dallas overnight. moments from now, members of the congressional black caucus, they'll be holding a news conference on capitol hill. they plan to address the deaths of two black men by police officers earlier in the week. they will address that, no doubt. but the shootings of 12 police officers in dallas will also come up. we'll have coverage of that. stand by. we're joined now by eric wilson. he's the deputy mayor pro tem of dallas. how is your community dealing with the horrendous situation that unfolded overnight? >> first of all, thank you for having me. we're in shock as we go through the process of trying to deal with the gravity of the situation. >> is this an isolated incident as far as you know, mayor, one individual killing these police
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officers, injuring the others, or are there other suspects arrested or still at large? >> according to our update this morning, there's only one suspect. that was the suspect that was deceased last night, so we're not looking at any other active shooter. >> can you tell us something about this sniper, his background? what have you learned about him? >> at this point, it's still under investigation. we're still gathering information. as we have it, we'll release it. >> you'll release his name at some point as well? >> yes. >> i assume you're trying to find out information, if he was involved with other groups or whatever, if he was on social media, if he was inspired by some hate groups or whatever to go out there and do this. can you share any of that information with us at this point?
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>> what we're doing is we're going through every lead, social media, phone records, anything that we can find to try to trace this individual back to the source and to rule out any possible connections to any organization. we want to make sure this is a lone gunman and make sure that we have everyone that we need. >> the whole community right now i'm sure is in shock right now. how are you guys going to deal with the fallout from this, the concern? these police officers, they go out there, they risk their lives, no doubt not only in dallas but in other communities across the country. there must be a heightened sense of fear and a heightened sense of alert. >> well, in dallas, we've been blessed, we have a wonderful police chief, chief brown, and his recognition of previous incidents such as ferguson, the forethought to be able to come
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up with programs to help community relations. we were, up until yesterday, one of the model cities in terms of police and community relations. we still are that. we still committed to being that. it's very shocking for this to happen here. considering the fact we have programs such as let's talk where we take young men from disadvantaged communities and we have one on one communication with law enforcement. it's just the community and law enforcement and they talk about real issues. so this is shocking for us. and we want to continue that model and moving forward and creating a positive influence in our community both from the community and from the police perspective. >> mayor, i'm anxious to hear what your thoughts were when you heard your police chief david brown say that the suspect, the sniper who was eventually killed in this robot bomb explosion
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after firing all those shots at police officers, that he told them he really wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers. what went through your mind when you heard that? >> disappointment. just as the whole movement for the peaceful demonstration black lives matter, so does the women and men in blue, their lives matter as well. i kept saying all last night that even though we're in disagreement, no war or no conflict has ever been solved with violence. it's always been solved with conversation. and that is something we need to focus on and that we're committed to focus on and continuing in the community, engagement and conversation, so we can understand that, yes, there may be subtle differences, but we all want the same thing. >> well said. eric wilson is the deputy mayor pro tem of dallas.
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our deepest condolences to you, to the entire community in dallas. i want to go to the congressional black caucus under way. they've got a news conference making a statement here in washington. let's listen to that. >> say to america that we are continuing our fight to remove guns from the hands of would be terrorists and criminals and require background checks for those seeking to purchase firearms. we need legislative action now. we don't need to leave the hill this week or any week without assuring the american people that we understand the problem of police misconduct in america. we understand the murders of innocent black americans. we get it. we understand the problems faced by our law enforcement officers. i don't want to diminish that in this conversation today. we understand the problems faced by law enforcement officers, most of whom put on the uniform every day and serve and protect
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our communities. republicans, what on earth -- why are you recoiling and not giving us a debate on gun violence? why not give it a hearing? give us a debate. give us an up or down vote on legislation on gun violence. why? last night while on the floor, we were advised that several hundred protesters were en route to the capital. demonstrating and protesting and exercising the first amendment rights, their first amendment rights by demanding that we as elected officials protect their sons and daughters and their grandsons and granddaughters, their brothers and their sisters. at 10:00 p.m., the congressional black caucus went outside of the capital and we met the demonstrators. we spoke to them. we embraced them. and we helped lead their march to the white house. they told us with unambiguous
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clarity that black lives matter, that the movement is serious, it is organized and they demand legislative action now. and that they don't leave this place until it's done. we applaud the demonstrators last night for telling us the deaths give us the energy and determination they need to pull off the band aid of the stain of irresponsible police killings in america. the two acts of murder this week that we all so sadly know must be addressed by law enforcement. it must be addressed by the congress of the united states. if we fail to act, this will be a long hot summer. in the rally last evening, a young lady held up a sign that read i wept more last night than
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i slept. end of quote. colleagues, america is weeping. they are angry. they are frustrated. and congress, when i say congress, i mean the republicans in congress, are refusing to address gun violence in america that targets black men and black women and hispanic men and hispanic women and, yes, even police officers. the congressional black caucus is frustrated. you want to say we're mad, we're mad. we are determined to take our advocacy now to a higher level. this is our responsibility to our constituents and we thank you so very much for covering us today. we ain't going to let nobody turn us around. thank you so very much. at this time, it is my honor to yield to -- >> representative butterfield, chairman of the congressional black caucus, calling for action in the house of representatives on guns, greater gun control.
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the republicans clearly resisting that call, at least for now. we'll see if anything can be done on that front. we'll continue to monitor this news conference up on capitol hill. he did warn of a, quote, long hot summer, a long hot summer, if no action is taken right now. very sensitive moment here in the united states. we know now why a sniper opened fire on police officers in downtown dallas. they were targeted at a peaceful protest against officer involved killings and the dallas police chief says the killer revealed as his motivation, revealed his motivation before he was killed. he said he was angry over the police violence against african-americans and he wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers. 12 police officers were shot. 5 of them killed.
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cnn's sara sidner is in dallas for us. she has moreonthe latest developments. sara, update our viewers. >> he also talked about the suspect, the fact he wasn't affiliated with any group and that he acted alone, and that's what police are looking into now. because they do still have three other suspects who are in custody or at least three other people in custody, including a woman they said that was roaming around the area where the shooting was happening near el centro college. we can also tell you this, it is extraordinary to hear from the police chief the way in which the suspect was killed. i have not heard this in my many years of doing this and i'm not sure, wolf, i'd love to hear your thoughts on this. they talked about sending in a robot that had an explosive device on it and then detonating that device in order to take the suspect out, ending up killing the suspect. and they said they had to take
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those extraordinary measures because at that time several officers were already down. we're now talking about 12 officers hit by gunfire. five of them were dead. they felt this was the only and best way to save the remaining officers here and to keep the public safe, by taking out the suspect in this way. i really find that an extraordinary move by the police. haven't seen that before. not very often. i certainly haven't seen it myself in covering some of these cases where you see police shootouts between suspects and police. >> point well made, sara. let me ask tom fuentes, our cnn senior law enforcement analyst, have you ever heard of a robot with an explosive device going in and killing a sniper along these lines? >> no, not within the united states. whether that's been used as a tactic overseas during battles, i don't know, but i've not heard of that here. having heard about it, i think it was a great idea to spare his
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officers and the dogs and anybody else in the public from the possibility of getting shot by this guy with powerful weapons, the amount of ammunition he had, and they didn't know if he had explosives. he claimed to negotiators he had placed ieds all over the garage, all over dallas, so they had to worry about an officer getting blown up. sending in a robot that way i think was the safest way to go. >> basically, they had this mechanized robot they could control from a distance, wheeled in, got close enough to the sniper and then they exploded it. they had a bomb on that -- >> sounds like that's exactly what they did. >> pretty extraordinary move. i hadn't heard that. all right, stand by. we're going to get more. we're told the attorney general of the united states loretta lynch, she'll be speaking out in about an hour or so on these events in dallas. still to come, i'll speak live with a reporter from "the dallas morning news" who eye witnessed
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an extraordinary night in dallas, texas. a sniper shot, killed five dallas police officers, injured seven others. the worst incident involving the loss of police officers here in the united states since 9/11. a lot of unanswered questions today about last night's deadly
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ambush of those police officers in downtown dallas. joining us now from dallas, the "dallas morning news" reporter brandon forenby. thank you for joining us. i understand you were there shortly after all these attacks, the ambush was going on? what was it like? >> it was very surreal. still hundreds of people downtown. many of them had been stranded because right after the shootings, the transit system shut down as police started cordening off huge areas of downtown. people were walking around confused. people were walking around angry. a lot of people were walking around in shock. >> how long did the sniper fire his weapon? >> i'm told it was like around 45 minutes. >> 45 minutes -- was he in a -- one location or was he moving around? >> we're not exactly sure of the
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locations. in one of the videos, it appears he's moving from one location to another but police are not giving a lot of information about the suspect's location. >> and he was well armed we're told, he had a lot of ammunition, right? >> it does appear so. >> so presumably it could have gone on for much longer. were you there or did you arrive after that robot with the bomb cape up and went close to hip, exploded, killing him? >> i was a few blocks away. >> did you hear that explosion? >> yes, i did. you could hear it from several blocks away. >> what was it like? >> it was loud, but it wasn't deafening. nothing shook. there wasn't, like, any debris, nothing like that. it was just a big loud bang and then it was over. lasted maybe a second. >> have you and your colleagues at the dallas morning news learned more about this sniper this individual? what have you gleaned? what have you learned? >> just like you were waiting on
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police to release more information. all we know is what he said, that he told them he wanted to kill white people, he especially wanted to kill white police officers. they said he wasn't affiliated with any group. they also suggested there might be other suspects. >> the mayor said they've arrested -- they've taken into custody some other suspects who were not cooperating with police. what if anything can you tell us about that? >> you're hearing the same things we're hearing. police are being very tight-lipped about the suspects, about with the number of suspects, about the leads that they're following up on. the mayor this morning said the number one priority for the city is to keep all of its residents safe. and because of that, they won't be releasing any information about suspects at this time. >> how's the community dealing with all of this, brandon? >> everybody's still in shock. it's a very hard thing to kind of wrap your head around. when people went to bed last
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night, you know, it was just emerging that how many officers were injured, how many officers were dead. then when everybody was waking up, still trying to deal with that, and then they found out, you know, what the suspect's apparent motives were. >> and the fact is the dallas police department has a pretty diverse police force, including an african-american police chief, david brown, and by all accounts the community relationship has been strong in recent years, is that right? >> i think that's fair to say. there have been some flash points. some racial tensions over the years. but nothing that's boiled over into anything that's even close to this kind of violence. not even close. >> all right, brendan forenby of the "dallas morning news," thank
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you. we're following the breaking news as the nation reels from multiple days of violence. what will it take for americans to heal? we'll have a discussion on that, much more of the breaking news, right after this.
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let's walk together to make an even bigger impact and end alzheimer's for good. find your walk near you at the dallas police chief says the gunman wanted to kill white people, especially wanted to kill white police officers, and he carried out his plan during peaceful marches after two black men died at the hands of police earlier in the week. one of the men who died, alton sterling, tackled and shot outside a convenience store in baton rouge, louisiana. nick valencia joining us with the latest. nick, what is the latest there in baton rouge? >> wolf, things are understandably still very raw,
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charged environment here in baton rouge, underscored by the tragic events of the police ambush in dallas. sterling's family released a statement related to those events. reading, we reject the acts of violence perpetrated against the members of the dallas police department. our hearts break for the families of the officers who were lost as they protected protesters and residents. regardless of how angry or upset people may be, resorting to this kind of sickening violence should never happen and simply cannot be tolerated. they went on to say responding with violence with violence is not the way to go. there are precautions being taken here by local authorities and state police. i got off the phone with the head of the state police here who says his officials, his deputies, are on high alert and taking added precautions. he says they know where the bull's-eye is. wolf. >> all right, nick, thanks very much. the outrage over the shooting death of alton sterling
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certainly intensifying when just a day later castile was shot and killed by a police officer in minnesota. the incident going viral after his fiance live streamed on facebo facebook. this morning, his fiance spoke to cnn about what she hopes will happen next. >> today is not only about justice and getting justice but it's about all of the families that have lost people. this thing that has happened in dallas, it was not because of something that transpired in minnesota today. this is bigger than fhilando. this is bigger than trayvon martin. this is bigger than all of us, so today i just want justice for everyone, everyone around the world, not just for my boyfriend and the good man that he was. because i'm going to continue to stay strong for him and i want all of you guys to do the same.
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>> joining us now, damion young, editor and chief of very smart he's also contributor to also michaela angela davis, a cultural critic and writer. michaela, your thoughts on these horrendous events that happened overnight in dallas and earlier in louisiana and minnesota. >> first, i think that diamond is a warrior. i can't imagine her sort of live reporting the execution of her boyfriend while her 4-year-old daughter was in the back seat. and for many black americans, we are managing the trauma of that while simultaneously managing the trauma of watching police officers being gunned down and i think what we're seeing is kind of an example of what they call double consciousness, dealing
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with double trauma. we're still mourning what happened to mr. phil and at the same time mourning bodies going down in blue. often this complexity you see embodied in a black police officer, right. so what i think we're really dealing with is the duality and complexity of america and having to manage terror on both sides at all times, you know, charles said earlier there's this ambient feeling of terror in everyone, but for generations upon generations, we've been dealing with terror on both ends, and what we saw in charleston when nine people were murdered and an act of terrorism took nine people down in a church, we saw amazing grace. we saw a community respond with unbelievable grace. what we're seeing now is the other side of that, right.
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we're seeing amazing rage. often when these things happen, we go into our own communities and kill each other and burn down each other's doors. this is a new -- this is a paradigm shift. this is rage going outward. and all of us are weary and angry and having to negotiate very complex feelings. >> it's heartbreaking all around. i'm anxious to get your thoughts. >> yeah, it's -- the trauma, having to deal with it chips away at your humanity. where you have that rage, you have that exhaustion, you have that just not knowing how to react, and one thing, to perform some type of self-care and try to avoid these images or try to
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avoid auto play videos of these men getting killed. but it's unavoidable. and, again, it's a collective trauma that just continues to build up, continues to wear on you, continues to chip away at you, and you're left in a state of -- you're left in a state of consciousness where you just don't necessarily know how to react anymore. you don't know if you have anything left to react. and, again, it's not a defeatist state, it's more of a fatigue. mental, emotional, psychological and spiritual fatigue. you just tried to find ways to get through it, to process it and to try to make some good out of it. >> let me get tom fuentes into this conversation as well. our senior law enforcement analyst, former assistant director of the fbi. how do we heal? we have to take some major steps here in the united states to deal with this issue which is
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potentially so explosive out there. >> i think that's a great question, wolf. the problem is you have police departments trying to be progressive, trying to increase their efforts at community outreach, community policing, but all of the individuals that commit violent acts in our cities now or across the country aren't necessarily aware of it or involved in it. so we don't yet know the identity of this particular shooter. he may have nothing to do with dallas and may not know anything the police department's doing. that's part of the problem is the people who need to be in the room having these discussions may not be there, no matter how much the community leaders, the elected officials and the police leaders try to communicate and set up a mechanism to heal and defuse this violent culture that we have. the right people and all the people may not be in those discussions. guys running around with assault rifles may not be part of those discussions. >> mmichaela, give me a quick
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thought. >> we are seeing this perfect storm of rage and pain and weapons, right, a hot summer, and people dealing with unimaginable mental -- like, i think what we've seen is just a combination of all of the issues coming together like hell broke loose and now we have to manage it and deal with it and be thoughtful and truthful about all the complexities we have to deal with. >> stand by for a moment. i think evan perez is joining us, our justice correspondent. evan, i understand you may have gotten the name of the sniper? >> that's right, we've now confirmed with multiple law enforcement sources that the identity of the shooter, the sniper in dallas, is mika exavier johnson. he's 25 years old. he's from mesquite texas. law enforcement officials who we are talking to say they found
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that he has got no previous criminal record, no, he was not on the radar for the fbi or any other agency for extremist ties, no ties to isis or any other groups like that. so really the first time they've heard of this guy it appears is when he started shooting police officers last night in dallas and then had that standoff at the garage at the community college there in downtown dallas. that's the first time they've encountered him. again, the identity is micah exav yar johnson, 25 years old, from mesquite, texas, is the identity of this sniper who killed all these officers in dallas, wolf. >> i assume they're going through his social media, his laptop, his mobile device, they're trying to find out who he was in contact with to see if there was, in fact, anyone else who may have been involved, right? >> that's right, that's right, wolf, that's one of the things they're doing right now. they're also at his home trying
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to conduct a search right there. they're waiting to get in there and start doing that. also, as you said, to try to see if there's any connections. last night or this morning even we heard from the dallas police that they had arrested three other people who they thought might be connected in some way to this. we still haven't heard whether or not they've confirmed any connection to those police. obviously, the gunman said he was acting alone. at this point, it does appear there was only one shooter. i know there was a lot of confusion and it's understandable with the police officers responding to the scene and the witnesses hearing the gunshots and the sound bouncing off all those tall buildings in downtown, dallas. we're told right now he was living with his mother according to a neighbor who -- or our producer talked to down there in texas. a neighbor says he lived with his mother, was kind of a recluse, kept to himself. the neighbors reporting police are all over the neighbor right
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now, again, waiting to do a search of that home, make sure it's safe, and also to try to get more about his background. one big question we all have, wolf, is where -- what kind of training he had. he appeared to be a very good shot to be able to kill all these officers, shoot all these officers from that perch that he had there in downtown dallas, wolf. >> all right, evan perez with us, reporting the name of the gunman. thank you very much. we're going to learn a lot more about micah xavier johnson in the coming hours. >> now that the public has the name, people who have worked with him or gone to gun clubs with him or in the military, if that's true, we'll hear all of that by the end of the day. >> thanks very much for that. we're standing by to hear from loretta lynch, the attorney general of the united states. she'll be making a statement
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shortly. we'll have live coverage of that. there you see the lectern already set up. i'll be back, 1:00 p.m., eastern, for our special coverage. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. "at this hour" with berman and bouldan starts right now. hello, everyone, i'm john berman, kate bolduan is off today. a major american city is reeling, an entire nation is hurting and many bewildered citizens are wondering what's happening here. what began as a peaceful protest against violence ends with one of the deadliest days for law enforcement in nearly 50 years. this hour, we expect a statement from attorney general loretta lynch addressing this horrific event.


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