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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news this morning. three officers killed in broad daylight in baton rouge. we have new information on the three officers lost and new information on just how long the killer had been planning the attack. a very personal side of donald trump promised at the republican national convention beginning today in cleveland. can the party's divisive nominee bring the gop together? good morning. welcome to "early start."
i'm christine romans at the cnn grill in cleveland. >> and i'm john berman live in baton rouge this morning. it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. i'm standing in front of the baton rouge police head quarters. you see the flag at half staff behind me. what you can't see is just how heavily guarded this police headquarters is and understandably so. why? because three of their own gunned down in broad daylight in an ambush-style attack. apparently lured on to the street by a gunman wearing a mask carrying an assault rifle. officer matthew gerald leaves behind a wife and two children. he was new to the force. he served in the army and mar e marines on a helicopter crew. officer montrell jackson is survived by a wife and 4-month-old son. in a facebook post, he written about the challenges of being an
officer. he wrote let hate infect your heart. brad garafola was an officer of 24 years. he was fixing up a car for his 15-year-old driver who was just getting ready to drive. two others were attacked. one in critical condition this morning. the gunman died in the shootout. he is connected to black separatists groups. police are looking for information on this man. he did post on youtube a violent response to what he called bullies. >> victims fighting their bullies. 100% have been successful through fighting back. through bloodshed. zero have been successful just
oversimply protesting. >> let's get more on all of this from cnn's nick valencia. >> reporter: john, it has been a very dark period in baton rouge. over the course of the last two weeks, this city has been strangled from within by violence. with the shooting death of alton sterling at the hands of police officers. we saw demonstrations that turned violent here. no one was injured in the protests, but there were many arrests. nearly 200 people arrested. people were on heightened alert. on tuesday, state polices announced they thwarted a plot to kill police officers. no one was ever charged with the plot. it under scored the anxiety and tension in the community. especially among law enforcement. fear after what happened in dallas with the handful of police officers shot and killed. many people here thought they would be next. they were.
on sunday, it happened again. six police officers shot. three shot dead at the hands of a gunman who traveled from missouri to take out police officers. the youngest victim in the shooting was 32 years old. montrell jackson. he just recently took to facebook and talked about the concerns of being a beat officer at this time. saying he loved baton rouge, but wasn't sure if the city loved him back. john. >> thank you, nick for that. i'm joined by matt hoarace. he is senior vice president of fjc security services. matt, thank you. this killer drove 800 miles from kansas city to baton rouge via dallas. what does that tell you about his desire to travel all that way to kill officers? >> john, that tells me he was committed to pathological
ideolo ideology. we have seen this in the past. and the problem is people come into the communities from outside of the communities and wreak havoc. that's what you see in the case. >> this happens not two weeks after five officers in dallas were shot dead after a protest there. matt. it is understandable if talking to officers, you get the sense they feel right now they are being hunted. >> right. you can't blame them given what has happened. the climate has been here. john, i call it coptics. everything is on stage. it is on stage in real-time in real action. that is what we're seeing week after week. this has got to stop. >> it has to stop. this killer left a video trail, an online social media trail.
he had been ranting and raving for some time. he talked about violence for some time. going forward, what do investigators need to do? what do you need to be on the lookout for if you are on the police force or in law enforcement to keep this from happening again. >> this is no different than the same type of anti-government and zeoltry and the intelligence community tracks these individuals. often times these rants and pathological behavior, whether it is manifested on youtube or social media sites are seen as just that. it is hard to tell if somebody is going to act or execute. certainly in cases, you have seen it over and over in dallas and now in baton rouge. >> meantime, if you are a police officer, matt, what precautions should you take? forces all over the country are instituting these rules where no one is allowed to go on patrol,
foot or vehicle by yourself. don't go on break by yourself. >> you know it is my experience after 27 years in law enforcement that no matter what the interaction or how tense things get, it is a small percentage of people to challenge us to a degree to challenge us to gunfire and hostile situations. when it comes to anti-government zeolots like this gentleman was, there is no telling what they will do or what lengths they will try to get their message across. unfortunately, killing police officers is a process and part of it. >> if you are an officer right now in this country, be alert. be on the lookout. matt horace, thank you. >> have a great day. president obama weighed in from the white house briefing room yesterday. he called on the nation to remain calm.
>> we don't need inflammatory rhetoric. we don't need careless accusations thrown around to score points or advance an agenda. we need to temper our words and open our hearts. all of us. >> presidential candidates also weighing in. let's read a couple statements on twitter or e-mail. first from hillary clinton. she said there is no justification for violence, for rate and violence on men and women who put their lives on the line every day in service of our families and community. donald trump said how many law enforcement and people have to die because of a lack of leadership in our country? we demand law and order. donald trump also posted online. he said our country is a die provided crime scene. that was donald trump on facebook and twitter. donald trump headed to cleveland for the republican national convention. these questions of law and order.
these questions of keeping police safe. these questions will be front and center all week in that city. how will they be discussed? christine romans breaks it down with the panel next. who hugs a friend. who is done with treatments that don't give you clearer skin. be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara® just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer. some serious infections require hospitalization. before treatment, get tested for tuberculosis. before starting stelara® tell your doctor if you think you have an infection or have symptoms such as: fever, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough. always tell your doctor if you have any signs of infection, have had cancer, if you develop any new skin growths or if anyone in your house needs or has recently received a vaccine. alert your doctor of new or worsening problems, including headaches, seizures, confusion and vision problems these may be signs of a rare, potentially fatal brain condition. some serious allergic reactions can occur. do not take stelara® if you are allergic to stelara® or any of its ingredients.
politics and protests colliding in cleveland. this is day one of the republican national convention. it is go-time and the city is preparing for anything here after a weekend of mostly peaceful demonstrations. security is very tight here in cleveland in the wake of the dallas and baton rouge shootings. today is all about a republican party seeking unity. and first steps to the coronation of donald trump. i can tell you it is pre-dawn hours and still dark, but very tight security all over the city. >> no question about it.
i think the cleveland police and national law enforcement has been preparing for a long period of time. there is a recognition of what this event means to donald trump and the republican party and election on the whole. not so coincidently, the theme of the four-day event is safety. american security first. you look at the speaker list trump is putting out. it is tracking the message that he and mike pence want to put across. michael flynn. a top official once considered or vice president. he has joni ernst, the senator from iowa. he has his wife, melania donald trump. introducing his wife tonight. that is a big moment. i think it is worth noting as we watched the awkward rollout with mike pence and donald trump, not
your traditional 26-minute all about me speech. take a listen as he spoke to cnn last night. >> clearly this man is not a politician. he doesn't speak like a politician. >> he's done pretty well. >> i think that's a good thing. >> he speaks from his heart. >> i speak from my heart and my brain. so we understand. maybe more important. >> so christine, it was an interview where donald trump tended to weigh in anytime where mike pence started speaking. they don't think they will be campaigning a lot with one another. they will go out individually. last might may be a good demonstration as to why. when you look at the interview, mike pence speaks wednesday night. it is important for him and for the country and people to get
their heads around the ticket. today is all about the security. >> make america safe. phil, you will cover that. let's talk more about the republican national convention here. there is so much to talk about here. the security concerns here in cleveland. i have a great panel. josh rogin and maria cardona and amanda carpenter and then john phillips for kabc radio talk show host. let's start with josh. the theme is making america safe again from nice, from dallas, from baton rouge. plenty of material for team trump. >> sure. we will see a host of national security officials layout broad and big themes why they think donald trump is better than hillary clinton on foreign policy. he is strong.
he is hard nosed. he is tough. he will restore leadership. after that, that is where most republicans on the foreign policy and the trump campaign ends. they will not talk about the fact that trump and his candidate disagree with whether or not they should have got to war in iraq or foreign trade or whether or not donald trump doesn't want to support ukraine and get closer to putin. the goal here is to project unity in the republican party. that doesn't really exist and paint hillary clinton as a problem. that means focusing on benghazi. >> i want to listen to a little bit. we saw a display on cbs last night, this ticket. this ticket addressing issues you are talking about. specifically it was a mistake to go to war in iraq.
which is something both mike pence and hillary clinton did. i want you to listen to how trump handled that. >> you used that vote of hillary's was the same. >> many people. >> the example of her bad judgment. >> many people have. i'm one of the view that was right on iraq. >> what about him? >> he is entitled to make a mistake every once and a while. she's not. she's not. >> so he can make a mistake, john, on iraq. he can make a mistake supporting tpp, but hillary clinton can't? >> first of all, i like the relationship that trump and pence have. pence is teller and trump is penn and doing the talking. vice presidents and presidents have an acrimonious relationship. it was george h.w. bush that came up with voodoo economics in 1980 with reagan. he now believes the way the war
was prosecuted was wrong and they could do so in a different manner. as we stand today, they are on the same page with war and peace and national security. >> maria? >> first of all describing your ticket as penn and teller is not a good thing for america. secondly, that interview last night took hillary's iraq war vote off the table. democrats will have a beautiful comeback. they won't be able to say a thing. thirdly, to josh's point, he has absolutely zero details when he talks about national security and foreign policy. he has brash statements. we will go to war in iraq. we have to be tough. what does that mean? he has never ever since the moment he was on the national stage been able to put details in terms of what do those proposals mean? what does it mean in sending troops? he did not answer that question last night. that is a big problem.
>> they will give details and fill out this picture. it is interesting because the gravitas of the party is not here. you have two former presidents not here. the two former nominees are not here. the republican governor that brought the convention to the state is not here. how will the party of the unity when you have the gravitas of the party not here. >> this is the no-show convention. you will see on display by virtue of the people that bothered to show up. what i'm interested to see is how does donald trump let other people make the case for him? throughout the campaign, it has pretty much been donald trump. i think it is challenging. if i had to write a speech on behalf of donald trump, how do you write a speech? how do you support these things? i think it is a very interesting exercise to see what speeches are delivered. >> we will talk to all of you
days of mourning for nice attacks. we know a third american who was reported missing died in the attack. we have nima elbagir live in nice. it is heartbreaking. you have children in the hospital. people still searching for loved ones. >> reporter: people still waiting to identify those who are lost. so many of those here searching hospitals and reaching out to authorities. we are down at the site of one of the many memorials that sprung up along the promenade. a 20-year-old student at uc berkeley. a tech student at uc berkeley. what the victims and families are looking for are answers. this is the third major attack to blight france in the last 18 months. authorities hope they will
provide some answers. three have been transferred to the anti-terror office in paris to investigate the links to the potential terror network. they are trying to figure out was there a network behind this attacker. >> and officials said he was radicalized quickly. we will continue to check in with you for developments on that attack in nice. thanks, nima. fears over safety as three officers killed in baton rouge and three others injured in yet another attack on officers. we go live to baton rouge and john berman next. who hugs a friend. who is done with treatments that don't give you clearer skin. be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara® just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer. some serious infections require hospitalization.
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lost. >> the trump show rolls into cleveland. this is day one of the republican national convention with a lineup that's anything but conventional. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans here in cleveland. >> and i'm john berman live in baton rouge this morning. it is just after 4:30 a.m. in the east. i'm in front of the baton rouge police headquarters. you see the flag at half staff. you cannot see the incredibly high levels of security. heavily armed officers guarding the headquarters. three officers gunned down in broad daylight. apparently by this killer who lured them on to the street. either with a 911 call or merely walking around with a mask
appareand an assault rifle. we have matthew gerald who had done several tours in iraq. and montrell jackson. he had been on the force ten area years. he had a son 4 months old. he recently posted on facebook. please don't let hate infect your heart. brad garafola. he was known as a jack of all trades. fixing up a car for his 15-year-old daughter who was getting ready to drive. these were the lives lost. gunned down on the street by a killer who drove some 800 miles from kansas city just to be here. we are getting new information about the killer. assassin. he had been in the marines. he had been connected to black separatist groups. he posted online not long ago about using violence to stop
bullies. >> victims fighting their bullies. 100% have been successful through fighting back. through bloodshed. zero have been successful just oversimply protesting. >> let's get the late eithst wi nick valencia. >> reporter: this city has been strangled by violence that started with the shooting death of alton sterling by the hands of police officers. there were many protests here, but there were plenty of arrests. we saw nearly 200 people arrested. police remained on heightened alert. police thwarted a plot to kill
police officers. no one was charged with the plot. it under scored the tension in the community. especially among law enforcement. fear after what happened in the event in dallas with the police officers who were shot and killed, many people here thought they would be next. they were on sunday. it happened here in this city. six police officers shot. three thought dead at the hands of a gunman who travelled from missouri to take out police officers. the youngest victim was 32-year-old montrell jackson. he had recently taken to facebook to talk about being a beat officer at this time. he said he loved baton rouge, but wasn't sure if the city loved him back. john. >> i'm joined by matt harris. a former executive with the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms and security of ftj security services.
it is certainly giving you the sense that this person had been planning for some time to kill police officers. >> it sounds exactly that way, john. it gives us an idea as to his commitment to his pathological ideology. in past incidents, people have been the same. they go through undo lengths to pull off these capers. >> what is tragic here among the multitude of issues, montrell jackson, who had been killed, he had been writing about how challenging it is to be a police officer. of course, here in baton rouge, they were dealing with the death of alton sterling killed by police. there have been protests here. montrell jackson wrote, i swear to god, i love this city, but i wonder if the city loves me. some consider me a threat. i experience sod much in my
short life in the last three days have tested me to the core. he also wrote please don't let hate infect your heart. this is an officer, matt, like so many officers doing good things who have been struggling with the difficulties of his job. >> john, he makes great points on. we are here in d.c. with noble cop. we discuss these issues. one minute we're protecting the public and the next minute we are concerned for our safety. you present that same visual threat to some officers that you don't to others. god rest his soul. >> you heard from him and we heard from officers all over the country that they feel right now that they're being targeted and hunted, matt. they have to take propecautions. how can you not think twice if
you are answering a 911 call? >> that is true. you don't know if it is a set-up or sinister plot. at the end of the day, you come in connection with solid citizens. we have to be concerned with these anti-government citizens. we are rarely given a clue as to what they will do next. >> police officers need to do their jobs. in the investigation here, two people had been detained and questioned and now released. we understand from law enforcement that this killer had been in contact with people in baton rouge. they don't know whether or not or given any indication anyone else was involved with the attack. you can bet, matt, that is the same thing they are looking into right now. >> you better believe it, john. investigators are looking into his social media and cell phone and computers to determine who he was speaking to and what the
extent, if any, anyone else had in the plot. >> this guy is everywhere online. we are just looking at a few clips that we cleared for use. all over social media. spewing hate in some cases. when not spewing hate, strange conspiracy theories. >> john, he is not the first one to do that. they sit at computers and blog and put out messages of hate. the community follows these groups to the extent with criminal behavior. absent that, you have the freedom of speech issue in the united states, and people do this quite often. >> matt horace, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. have a great morning, john. president obama who just last week went to dallas to address people after the loss of five officers there.
he was in the white house briefing room talking about the loss of three officers here in baton rouge. he advised calm. >> we don't need inflammatory rhetoric. we don't need careless accusations thrown around to score political points or advance an agenda. we need to temper our words and open our hearts. all of us. >> you can bet this will be a campaign issue. it should be. keeping america safe. keeping police officers safe is something that should come up. hillary clinton put out a statement saying there is no justification for violence or hate or attacks on men and women who put their lives on the line every day in service of our families and communities. trump posted how many law enforcement people have to die because of a lack of leadership in our country. we demand law and order. on twitter, he wrote, our country is a divided crime
scene. law and order will be a subject at the republican national convention tonight in cleveland. you can bet speakers will bring it up on the stage. donald trump already talking about it. how will security fears around the country and specifically in cleveland effect the convention? christine romans comes back right after this. "why are you checking your credit score?" "well you don't want to live with mom and dad forever, do you?" "she says...bazang!" "ok, good one." "uh, how do i check my credit score?" "credit karma, it's free." "credit karma. give yourself some credit."
politics and protests colliding in cleveland. it is day one of the republican national convention and this city is preparing for anything. after a week of mostly peaceful demonstrations, security is very tight in cleveland this morning in the wake of the dallas and baton rouge shootings. today is all about a republican party seeking unity and first steps toward the coronation of their nominee donald trump.
cnn's phil mattingly joining me from the cnn grill in cleveland. the sun is not up yet, but you see how tight the security is. >> no question. security is paramount outside the perimeter and inside the convention hall. specifically today. that is the focus of the agenda today. for donald trump and his newly minted running mate mike pence, that is the focus. law and order. national security. strength. that is the message they hope to hammer home today. you look at the list of speakers they have laid out. it is a message they believe can be delivered. michael flynn. a top national security official. you have senator joni ernst. first-term senator from iowa. if you think it is important to know, melania trump. a press shy wife.
you get a first view at her. you will see throughout this week, mike pence, an awkward rollout this weekend. you will see him in primetime on wednesday. he and donald trump may need to work a couple things out last night. look at what they said on "60 minutes." >> clearly this man is not a politician. he doesn't speak like a politician. >> he has done pretty well. >> i speaks from his heart. >> that's a good thing. i speak from my heart and my brain so we understand. this may be more important. >> still working a few things on the. we will see that this week. something to keep an eye on. >> thank you, phil. let's talk more about day one of the republican convention and security concerns here in cleveland. a great panel rejoins me. josh rogin with the washington
post. practi maria cardona and melissa carpenter. former communications director for ted cruz. on the right, john phillips for kacv radio host. let's talk a bit here. if you were writing the speech for melania trump or introduction remarks for donald trump, unconventional way. >> is melania going to play into that theme? we don't hear from her a lot. we see her a lot. how does donald trump introduce her? we don't hear him talk about his wife or his relationship with his wife. will they get equal time as we saw with trump and pence? he may still dominant. i could see him take longer to
introduce his wife. >> will it soften him or hum humanize him? >> that is the reason why she will be speaking. she will try to bring us a different view or perspective of donald trump. i think the challenge is and she is lovely. lovely woman. she seems very nice. she doesn't -- i don't see her connecting with any real segment or community of the american people which is what you try to have a potential first lady today. you have seen in the past potential first ladies have tried to do that. i don't see how she can really do that because we don't really hear from her that much. the american people don't know her. maybe tonight that will change. that's what i will be looking for to see how she does that. how they have her make that connection with the american people that she currently does not have right now. >> the family did very well during the town hall with anderson cooper. that was one of the high points
of donald trump and his family speaking. tonight is about safety and security. i think melania donald trump will show that. show donald trump as a guy as a father. who many rich kids, particularly of celebrities go out and get involved in drugs and problems with the law. his kids didn't do that. to show him off as a father figure or as someone who can run a house and successfully, i think that is a big portion of tonight. >> could it backfire? you have this uber beautiful couple with the rich kids. does it set him apart from the american people who he is trying to woo? >> i think most people are open and warm to melania trump. she has a calming effect on the more angry distant feelings. what we will see is a dichotomy. you will have pat smith, the mother of sean smith, killed in benghazi.
you will have rick perry. you will have melania trump and scott baio. you have people screaming with benghazi and isis and the foreign policies unsafe. and you have charles in charge and melania trump. it is a weird conflagration. >> you will not have two living former republican presidents. you will not have the two prior nominees. you will not have the republican governor who wooed the republican national convention here. he said this is about winners and champions. >> tonight is a spinoff of "charles in charge." it's donald in charge. without the people here, without mitt romney and john mccain, he is still doing fine in the polls. he is still doing fine in swing states like pennsylvania, ohio, florida.
states that were lost by mitt romney and john mccain. he is doing fine on his own. >> this convention has to go well for him. he has to look like a president. act like a president and lead that room. i'm not sure how the room will receive all of the speeches. they might like the people who speak on behalf of him. will they stand on their feet or is it more of a golf clap? >> "the art of the deal" and how trump talks about it a lot. it is almost his business bible. a lot of attention to a new yorker piece quoting the ghost writer of that book. tony schwartz. i want to tell you what he wrote. i put lipstick on a pig. i feel deep remorse to present trump that made him more appealing than he is. i genuinely believe it trump wins and gets the nuclear codes. there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the
end of civilization. a dramatic conclusion. for the ghost writer of "the art of the deal" how damages is this for donald trump? >> i think it is scathing. "the art of the deal" and his image as an uber successful businessman is what propelled him to the presidency. if it is not for that book, he would not be where he is. >> i think he is pointing out what hillary clinton is pointing out. a real concern about donald trump on national security. auditioning to be the leader of the free world. we had the crisis in nice. we had the crisis in turkey. if there was ever a 3:00 a.m. call, that was it. he ended up talking about turkey. he did not make a lot of sense. even people who are inclined to give trump the benefit of the doubt, they see these actions and say what if this guy did have his finger on the button.
what does that mean? it is a scary proposition. >> i know we will talk about money this week as well. he wants to make america safe again and he wants people better off. stocks will probably open at a record high. see you again later this week. 54 minutes past the hour. breaking news this morning. three police officers killed. three more shot. they were lured to the scene in baton rouge by a 911 call and ambushed by a gunman. "new day" picking up that developing story next.
that is where alisyn camerota is in cleveland for the republican national convention. we will cover what happened here in baton rouge involving six police officers and the events of the convention for you this morning. beginning here. this story comes down fundamentally of the names of the officers involved. that's what happened here. a murder that happened here in baton rouge of six police officers. we know of the three who died. we know the names of two injured. we will tell you about the gentlemen throughout the morning. the fact pattern of the deaths of the men on your screen is fairly simple. this all started with a 911 call at 8:40 a.m. local time of a man walking down the street dressed for battle and carrying a long gun. when the officers showed up, the shooting began. we have boris sanchez here with the latest on the investigation. boris, what do we know at this hour? >> reporter: good morning, chris. to give you an idea where we
are, we are less than a mile from police headquarters. the convenience store is where all this unfolded as officers chased this man down several businesses bravely going after him although he was targeting them. you could not tell that anything happened here yesterday. the scene is mostly clear. the investigation is still unfolding. we're told that last night officers detained two people and questioned them for several hours. no charges were filed. this goes in line with what officials told us. this suspect was not alone in baton rouge. it is unclear if the people he was with knew the extent of the plot he was about to undertake. a plot that has rattled this community and shocked the nation. [ gunshots ] >> shots fired. officer down. got a city officer down. >> reporter: three officers ambushed and gunned down in baton rouge