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voter database this year that was exposed in the dnc. >> they keep saying the clinton campaign, no internal systems were hacked external systems. stand by. much more of our coverage continues right now with erin burnett "out front." out front next, breaking news. sources say the fbi is now investigating a hack at the clinton campaign. is russia behind it? plus, trump and clinton kicking off the final phase of this election both taking the stage tonight. so who has the upper hand and clinton and bernie sanders, they found unity, but sanders supportes are still protesting on the convention floor. can clinton win without them? let's go "out front." ♪ good evening. i'm kate bolduan in forrier i e
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burnett. the cyber attack reaching other democratic party organizations as well including the dnc and the party's congressional campaign committee, this as hillary clinton and tim kaine are preparing to take the stage together in pennsylvania. donald trump held a rally in denver just moments ago attacking clinton with the crowd, getting into it, as well. listen. [ audience chanting "lock her up" ] >> you know what? i've been say ago on i've been saying let's just beat her in the november race, but you know what? no. no. you know what? i'm starting to agree with you, i'll tell you. >> every time i mention her everyone screams "lock her up," "lock her up, lock her up" they keep screaming. >> we'll get back to that. i do want to get back to the breaking news with jim sciutto with the cyber attack in the clinton campaign. jim, what do you know about this
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attack? what are you hearing? >> this is a very expansive attack and we knew that the triple c, the democratic congressional campaign committee opened up to a whole host of candidates around the county. the clinton campaign says this is a voter analytic tool, one that's actually shared by other candidates. they say no internal systems were affected, but the fact is targeting the clinton campaign and accessing data in the clinton campaign and the one common thread throughout this, kate, although they have not been identified publicly, a source is telling us repeatedly that russia is the most likely actor here and this gets to the question of motivation and an attempt to influence the election and an attempt to embarrass the u.s. political process. all of those are potentially bad things and it's something that u.s. officials are taking care tonight. >> are they being careful to say these are three separate attacks that look similar or are all
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signs pointing that they are linked? >> the formal phrasing, attacks that look similar and that's why they're looking at them in the same way, but because they look similar and keep in mind when we say similar that's both digital fingerprints and the coding and so on, but also it's the m.o. it's the way they were carried out and the target, et cetera and that fits a pattern for specifically russian intelligence services and also the timing of these attacks linked them, as well. no final word on it and the fbi is looking into it, but there is strong evidence linking it to russia. >> jim, i know you've had an opportunity to speak to the director of national intelligence about this. do you get the sense that they're ever going to get to a point where they can say this is the motive behind the attack with certainty? >> no. they may very well get to the point where they publicly identify russia although they haven't done that with previous attacks where they've had good confidence and in terms of motivation and i asked mr. clapper when i had a chance to speak with him.
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i can't see inside vladimir putin's mind and oftentimes he's surprised the u.s. and it's been very difficult to predict, but again, they connect the dots here and russia believes we tried to affect their political system and tried to spark democratic protests in ukraine and elsewhere and they believe that. so they believe this kind of attack on the u.s. is fair game. for them it's another front and it's not a war, a competition between the two countries. >> it sure seems this is something that goes far beyond partisan politics or should. we'll talk about that in just a second. thanks so much. there could be more details coming up about this any minute now and let's go to brianna keilar who is out front. brianna, what's the campaign saying about this hack? >> reporter: kate, hillary clinton's press secretary putting out a statement to explain this in part. an analytics program obtained by the dnc and used by the campaign and a number of other entities
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was accessed as part of the dnc hack. the campaign computer system has been under review by cybersecurity experts and they've found no evidence that our internal systems have been compromised. of course, many questions still remaining about this, but kate, this is happening as hillary clinton is taking her message from the convention on the road as she's trying to get a bounce in the polls against donald trump. >> i don't know about you, but i stayed up really late last night. it was just hard to go to sleep. >> after making her pitch to the nation, hillary clinton now has to sell it aggressively until election day. >> you listened really closely to the republican convention, you know that donald trump talked for 75 minutes and did not offer one solution. in fact, his speech, his whole
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convention seemed to be about insuling me instead of helping the american people. >> she and running mate tim kaine are starting with a bus tour from philadelphia into western pennsylvania and ohio as she struggles to appeal to white, blue collar workers. >> i am also going to pay special attention to those parts of our country that have been left out and left behind from our inner cities to our small towns, from indian country to coal country. ♪ 24 years after her husband took an upbeat thousand-mile bus tour through appalachia. >> i accept your nomination for president of the united states. >> standing here as my mother's daughter and my daughter's mother, i am so happy this day
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has come, and i am so happy for grandmothers and little girls and everyone in between. >> trying to convince she is the safe alternative to donald trump. imagine, if you dare imagine, imagine him in the oval office facing a real crisis, a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons. >> it was, at times, an unconventional democratic convention with gop values. >> i worked for ronald reagan. donald trump, you are no ronald reagan. >> now hillary clinton's bus tour, much shorter than the one that she went on with her husband so many years ago. that was a thousand-mile bus tour that bill clinton and al gore took, kate, but the goal is really the same. that was a bus tour going from
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appalachia and the northwest. hillary clinton trying to court some support from white, working class voters. it's an area where her campaign is concerned she is vulnerable to donald trump. >> absolutely, brianna. thank you so much, brianna following the clinton campaign tonight. out front with me now donald trump supporter anti-trump republican, is that what you go by these days? >> that's not the choice that i had. >> this is one of those situations where i don't like to just read the teleprompter. conservative republican tara meyer and editor in chief of the daily beast, john avalon. you can take a shot at me and call me whatever i want after i did that. we will dig in deeper and a little while into the hacking, but i do want to start since hillary clinton is one of the kickoff events through the final section of this election. where are we right now? john, two weeks of wild
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conventions, two weeks of wild speeches. did it fundamentally change the state of this race? >> no, i don't think it did. look, donald trump did get a bump coming out of his convention. bumps are normal and that's a traditional thing and we'll get polling soon to see whether hillary clinton and tim kaine did, but history would suggest they will. the race is back basically where it was and it's tight. we are in the 100-day stretch and you see from hillary clinton's bus tour, she's not taking her problems with white working class voters for granted and the easy thing to do would be to concede that ground and she's taken this bus tour across pennsylvania and across ohio and they're must-win swing states where it's competitive particularly in the southwest and florida. >> after two weeks, tara. you are not a fan of either candidate. >> right. >> who has made more headway with white, working-class voters. what did you hear? >> i think at this point donald trump has the advantage.
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she's focused in on the bernie sanders supporters and against free trade folks and the rust belt areas and those are significant areas of concern and let's not forget hillary clinton lost michigan and they underestimate, and the washington post did a story not too long ago about people that never voted republican in their lives and labor unions and average blue collar folks saying you know what? if you want more of the same, we'll go to donald trump, and that message that donald trump is putting out there and resonating and the point is at this juncture, can hillary clinton make up for it in other areas? she's going to have to grab some of the white working class vote and donald trump doesn't seem to be expanding at any point and that's where you will see the difference and it's going to be a close margin. >> after dozens of speakers and some of them including president obama, and vice president biden and bill clinton, to your point that people want to see change.
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who is more status quo after two weeks of conventions. donald trump or hillary clinton. >> i don't think either of them are status quo and the first female nominee of a major party and that is not at all status quo. i think donald trump had an advantage. i actually don't think he has that anymore. >> what changed it? >> to be honest, hillary clinton and all of the speakers throughout the four days made a significant case as to why he is not the person to actually lead a charge into the future to engage economic justice for america one of the things that i thought was really compelling, i was sitting there on the floor. new york had pretty good seats. >> i walked past you guys several times. >> and in speaking to those bernie sanders supporters, i do think there are some who had been frustrated and still are, but a vast majority of them i think listened to speech after speech and you can sort of see a change because i think every speaker actually addressed not
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only why donald trump is unfit to be leader of this nation, but why she is the best person to actually address some of the economic concerns. >> if you look at the ratings, a lot of those people saw speeches after speeches and if they did, they heard this. donald trump is a homegrown demagogue. donald trump is a fraud and donald trump is a con. by and large, he is too dangerous to let sit in the oval office. is there a concern after a well-coordinated convention -- you disagree with it obviously, with the message that there is some that will stick? the only thing that was consistent was the attacks on donald trump and that's fine. what you got was a disjointed message. >> you had bill clinton ask one of the most effective communicators in the democratic party trying to bill hillary clinton as a change agent and you had to generate a time in people's mind when they could see her as a change agent. the next night barack obama was
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trying to paint her as the continuation of his presidency. it's somewhat of a disjointed message and for all that was painted on the republican convention before it even happens. i would say the democrats come out disorganized and you had the number two candidate leave the party. >> but i would say -- go! >> i would say this. one of the things that came out of this convention is at best underreported and at first is just ignored which is for hillary clinton's entire career, she has a strong legacy in public service that i think speaks to how she will govern. >> that's part of the status quo. >> both campaigns are trying to drive up the sky-high negatives of the other person. what you're trying to win right now is both are trying to do a negative wave and that's not good for the country. >> but that's all they're doing. >> oh, yeah, and you're going to see more of it and there's one
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substantive thing and the big news of both conventions at the end of the day, mike pence helped donald trump consolidate some conservatives and maybe some white conservatives in the midwest and that could be key to any electoral map she wants to have and by picking tim kaine and a swing state senator, hillary clinton didn't appease, by reaching out and moving the map and that's what you need to do with a campaign which is build a coalition bigger than your base and hillary clinton seems to be taking that seriously ask donald trump doesn't yet. >> hold on. hold on. we'll get back to this. we'll be right back. >> out front next bernie sanders supporters making themselves heard all week long booing clinton during the speech during the night and booing other speakers throughout the week, but also this -- i want to talk about this. our breaking news. the feds investigating a hack at the clinton campaign. are the russians behind it? we have a special report coming up and a very emotional moment at the convention, a gold-star father and a muslim tearing into
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one thing i'm struck by talking to so many delegates throughout the week, you can track their move as it changed from monday through thursday there, and i can tell you, not really any bernie sanders delegate, at least, said they were going home from here to support donald trump. there were a few who said we may have to support a third-party ticket here. we don't necessarily like some things about the clinton campaign. some jill stein supporters there with the green party and gary johnson supporters and libertarian there, but the question here is donald trump bringing anyone over? and i can tell you, kate, bernie sanders' admonition against donald trump seems to be working so far with many of the sanders delegates we talked to and watching their support groups online. i talked to one voter from the panhandle of florida and she was watching hillary clinton's speech and she was holding up a sign. bernie has my heart, but hillary has my vote, and that summed up a lot of what i was hearing from
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across the delegation last night in philadelphia, kate. >> fascinating. also this, what incentive at this point do you hear that bernie sanders has to go out and campaign for hillary clinton. he did his part. he went out there and he basically bear hugged her in endorsing her last week at the democratic convention. what's he going to do now? >> it was a change in his posture, certainly, and i asked some of his close advisers what brought him to it. a loss for clinton in november would essentially be a loss for sanders. his movement would have no influence on a trump white house and his movement could have an influence on a clinton white house. they could make sure to try to pull it to the left again. so it's really that simple, a clinton win is a sanders win in some respects and a loss is indeed a loss for his movement, as well. kate? >> jeff, great to see you. thank you so much. jeff weaver who is the manager
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this time around. >> last night she reached out to bernie sanders and she reached out to bernie sanders' supporters. here's what thing she said, listen to this. >> and to all of your supporters here and around the country, i want you to know i've heard you. your cause is our cause. >> our country needs your ideas, energy and passion that is the only way we can turn our progressive platform into real change for america! >> jeff, at this point, are you genuinely satisfied with what you heard from hillary clinton last night?
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>> everyone has to agree that her speech was much better than anticipated and i think her reaching out to sanders' supporters are right on point and in particular, in talking about the platform, both campaigns work verdict hard on the platform and representatives from both campaigns from the grassroots worked on that platform and you have pundits saying this is just a piece of paper, but the truth of the matter is that hillary clinton and bernie sanders are both committed to enacting the provisions in the most progressive platform in democratic party history if hillary clinton is lechelected. many people were gratifying for the provisions of the platform. >> there were angry protests and you were active in trying to tamp it down, sending messages to supporters asking them to be respectful. i was on the floor last night. there were still protesters there wearing shirts with bernie sanders' quotes on them, clearly not everyone is onboard. do you think the protesters were treated fairly? >> well, i think that the media
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obviously focused on the relatively small number of people who were making some kind of demonstration, but as jeff said in his report, you know, the vast majority of the sanders supporters are either moving to hillary clinton or are thinking of moving in that direction and trump has very little sway with the bernie supporters and he sands opposite to what bernie sanders stands for and bernie sanders i think, was quite clear that he is supporting hillary clinton and for us to make the kind of progressive change that he advocated during his campaign, we have to elect hillary clinton. >> jeff, i want to get your take. mike pence, donald trump's running mate. he was at a campaign rally, and i think he was still speaking a short time ago and he had this to say about hillary clinton, and i want to get your take. >> sure. >> people are restless for change. they're ready to break free from the old patterns in washington, d.c., and democrats last night just made it official.
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they nominated someone that represents everything this country is tired of so let's decide here and now, hillary clinton must never become president of the united states of america. >> jeff, is hillary clinton change? >> compared to what they're advocating which is returning to disastrous, trickledown economics which has put our country in the position it is now. they're not talking about change. they're talking about turning the clock back and that would be disastrous for the country for working-class people, for young people and middle-income families and this is what bernie sanders fought against throughout this campaign was the return to this kind of republican trickledown economics that these trump and pence are advocatin advocating. tax breaks for the rich and nothing for anybody else. >> jack, you were right beside bernie sanders all along this road. i mean, you and i have spoke so many times and this is the fight you truly, truly believed in.
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that moment when bernie sanders stood up and handed the delegates over to hillary clinton, you know, symbolic, but significant. that moment when he was with the vermont delegation, it did strike me and i was wondering at the time, what was that moment like for you? what went through your mind? >> you know i have great pride in senator sanders and i've been with him in 30 years and he's the person that puts the country ahead of himself and working-class families ahead of himself and it was a class move on his part to try to bring the party together to defeat donald trump and to elect hillary clinton, and i was very, very proud of him. >> it's great to see you, jeff. thanks so much. >> out front for us next. more on the breaking news the fbi investigating a hack at the clinton campaign. are the russians behind it? we've been wondering that and one of the most talked about speeches, a man who brought down the house at the dnc. he's our guest coming up. stop...
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breaking news. officials telling cnn a program used by the clinton campaign may have been hacked. they say it appears similar and that's their wording to the dnc
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hack which officials believe was carried out by russia and tonight the trump campaign releasing a statement saying this seems to be a problem wherever hillary clinton goes, their wording. jim sciutto is "out front". >> wouldn't it be nice if we actually did get along with russia? >> reporter: donald trump trading compliments with russian president and u.s. adversary vladimir putin. >> when people like me i like them. even putin. >> reporter: their relationship under new scrutiny with u.s. officials now saying it was likely it was russia that hacked 20,000 e-mails from the democratic national committee. wikileaks released the e-mails on the eve of the democratic party convention. the timing, raising questions about whether it was an attempt to influence the u.s. election perhaps in trump's favor. director of the national intelligence james clapper told us that while it was too early to say with certainty it was rush a the kremlin does have an interest in undermining the u.s. political process.
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>> is it your view that russia has the intention of, if not, influencing this election, undermining confidence in the u.s. political process? >> they see a u.s. conspiracy behind every bush. they believe that we are trying to influence political developments in russia and their natural response is to retaliate. >> that is a very serious concern for the u.s. government. >> was this to stir up trouble or was this to ultimately try to influence an election? and, of course, this is a serious proposition. >> when asked by erin burnett, trump's campaign manager discounted the theory that russia leaked the documents to help put trump in the white house. >> it's just absurd. known anything what you just said, if you do, then you ought to expose it. >> trump maintains he has no connections to russia whatsoever and cnn has not been able to find any current business operations there.
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>> i have nothing to do with putin. i've never spoken to him and i've never spoken to him. >> when he brought his miss universe pageant to moscow in 2014. >> i was in moscow recently, and i spoke indirectly and directly with president putin who could not have been nicer. >> and now trump's favorable comments about russia has u.s. allies worried about whether the u.s. would defend them against russian aggression. >> it's very bothersome to our foreign interlock turs and our counterparts. >> the national security division is now investigating this latest possible hack on the hillary clinton campaign because of similarities to the hack on the dnc and the hack on the democratic campaign committee and digital similarities and in terms of the method and, kate, those similarities point yet
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again to russia again and not with certainty and they haven't publicly identified russia, but that is the concern and in the midst of the u.s. presidential campaign and the potential to influence that, u.s. officials are taking it extremely seriously. >> understandably so. jim, thank you so much. i want to bring in my panel along with david gergen, presidential adviser for four former presidents. david, to you. these hacks, beyond politics, extremely concerning, but looking at politics, how much of a political headache do you think this is likely to be? >> it could be very serious, kate. >> it's one thing to be hacking into the democratic national committee which had pledged to be neutral. it's a very different thing and there are only a few e-mails in the democratic national committee which were very bias, but they didn't affect the outcome of the campaign, whereas if you go into the hillary clinton campaign itself and into the campaign committee, that's where you would find the memos and the conversations about
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strategy, about how you plan to win and that information is extremely vital to keep private for a campaign. if wiki leaks and russians hate the democrats so much there will be great temptation to pass it to the opposition and then you have an invasion and there is a whiff of watergate when you get into that kind of level of hacking and into the inner sanctum of politicali thinking and strategy of the campaign. >> basil, if any hacker went into the campaign, it has entities and these are the dnc that i deal with rlgly, we deal with voter files which have come up earlier and you have strategy attached to individual voters and donor information with these donors. >> could this be paralyzing?
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>> i don't know if it's paralyzing because ultimately, whoever is looking at that time actually needs to interpret it in a certain way, and i could not be sure how the campaign itself is intending to use it, but i do want to make a point about the individuals involved because of what happened at the democratic national convention with the former chair, which is that the majority of the folks they interact with, all of them have been upstanding and fair, and we have tried to sort of move forward by actually working together and not sort of taking sides against any particular campaign. >> this makes it hard to leave the headlines, though. john, you've been very involved with the campaign before. if you're in the hillary clinton campaign and, and if you are in the campaign and you deal with this news today, what are you doing? >> it has a chilling effect certainly on the way people use e-mail and concern that the strategy and other confidential e-mails could pop out at any moment and the proverbial october surprise, but i would say the greater danger here isn't to the campaign internally
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and it's not about embarrassment. it's about the direct implication that the fbi is apparently investigating that russia, a hostile foreign power is trying to impact the outcome over our election for their own purposes and that, you cannot overstate the seriousness. russia has a long history even before putin in trying to impact election outcomes and the fact that they're trying to impact an american election through cyber means is a higher security crisis. >> exactly to that point. joseph, the trump campaign put out a statement and this is what it said. this seems to be a problem wherever hillary clinton goes. hopefully this time there wasn't classified and top secret information that puts american lives at risk. yes, hillary clinton very quickly want pod point that it was russia because they wanted to tip the scales in the election. this is a very political statement, doesn't the danger go beyond politics? i envision this utopian world
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where -- when russia tries to attack the e-mails of any campaign of anyone who wants to be president that both campaigns stand up against this power? >> in putting our hats on i, i agree with john, and governor pence agreed with john that any threat to our security should be taken seriously. >> then what's this? >> you can't ignore the fact that this call to mind the history of the clinton scandals and the clinton with the computers. i want to defeat hill reclinton without this. >> they didn't allow this to happen. cyber warfare is -- >> but what i think is more irresponsible is the connotations and there's no link to trump although so many people in the media have tried to say there's some collusion with trump and russia hacking it. >> let's talk about that because there may not be a direct link that anyone can find, but let's not act like donald trump does
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not have a vested interest in russia and putin. no, i mean, financial interest. >> isn't it being just as political as donald trump's campaign is people are trying to make a link to donald trump. >> they do not want a president who wants to open up more natural gas and oil in the united states of america and it would be against russian interest. >> donald trump, with him trying to act like putin, and i don't know what's going on here. >> he's done family business there for many years and a lot of his debt is by russian oligarchs and trump soho was financed by questionable kazakhstan money. it goes back a long way. >> why is it questionable -- >> yes. because russian -- because -- no, no, no. >> hold on! >> let me finish! [ indiscernible ] >> you know the definition of an oligarch. the oligarchs over there in
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russia have direct ties to putin and the states there. >> and they gave bill clinton $500,000. >> okay, fine, but donald trump has continued to disparage nato and weakening nato is a benefit to vladimir putin. upon donald trump has refused to say that if he wouldn't recognize the crimea as the russians taking it over. he's done numerous things that have been very friendly to vladimir putin because he has a vested interest financially and people need to look at that. >> david yurgen, you get to be the umpire calling the balls and strikes and jump into the pool while i was hoping for us all to take on russia together and make sure they weren't hacking. no, we are in the pool of politics right now. >> for sure. >> who will win this one, david? >> think the trump campaign has a point, unless there's evidence they shouldn't be held responsible for the hacking. if there is evidence that's a completely different matter. what i do think is we don't know
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about the full extent of donald trump's business because we don't have all of his financial tax records and tax returns in public and were he to do that this would clear itself up a lot, but in the meantime there are serious people in the real estate business who will tell you that -- and i think this is worth checking out that when he had his bankruptcies that he did borrow money from the russian banks. they argue that he is probably ad hoc to the russians and that might explain a lot. the country deserves to know what the ties are. we don't have the evidence right now, and mr. trump could help the country a great deal by putting his records fully on display. >> and in the meantime, yet again, i will say there is no evidence that he is directly linked. there is no evidence. all of the caveats that are necessary in this conversation. it's just important to say. >> it's important because put all of the personal stuff aside and the allegations of money because all of that is unfounded and that needs to be clearly
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stated, right? >> right. >> what we do know is the policies he has backed as a presidential candidate have been friendly to russian interests to the extent of possibly withdrawing from nato and not judging the crimian invasion and in the platform committee, very unusual and the policy agnostic and they pulled their traditional support for the sovereignty of the ukraine and those are unusual policy decisions for the campaign that isn't particularly interested in politics. >> the issues continue. thanks, guys. >> they wanted to make sure it was on the platform. >> out front next, the man who gave one of the most unforgettable speeches at the democratic convention, he is joining us next and the battle of the new york billionaires. why did michael bloomberg say this about donald j. trump? >> trump says he wants to run the nation like he's running his business? god help us. rad] oh, brad, plea. [pauly] peo,,,oh, brad, people leave behind the strangest things when they move out. [brad] really? [pauly] hmm. [brad] oh... [brad underwater sounding] whoa.
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hillary clinton and chelsea clinton may have been the headliners on the stage last night at the democrat irk national convention, but for many people there was another unexpected star of the night.
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watch. >> in this season when some want to harden and stop the heart of our democracy we are being called like our fore mothers and fathers to be the defibrillators of our time. we must shock this nation with the power of love! we can't give up on the heart of our democracy, not now, not ever! >> out front tonight, reverend william barber, president of the north carolina naacp and pastor of the green leaf christian church. thank you so much for joining me, and i was on the floor last night for your speech and people were on their feet. one headline called this a drop the mike moment of the evening and you brought the entire room up during pretty much the entire speech. were you surprised by the reaction? >> well, i'm always humbled by it. i've been traveling the country on what we call the revival, a
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time of revolution of values and i went as a preacher and not representing any organization. there is a deep hunger to reframe our moral conversation, and to take on the so-called christian evangelicalism which says the only moral issues are prayer where you stand on homosexuality and abortion. the fact of the matter that more than 2,000 scriptures in the bible of both the old and new testament they speak to the issue of poverty, how we treat the poor and how we write policies that deal with injustice and how we health care the sick and the stranger and those on the margins and there's a deep hunger for that in america, and we've seen that before in the civil rights movement and the reconstruction movement in 1800 and there's a deep hunger for that again. >> you want your message to transcend politics and you were speaking at a very political convention. donald trump was a big target throughout the night for many speeches. i did not hear you mention his name in your speech, why not? >> i look at mr. trump as more
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of a trumpism as a kind of a continuation of what we called with the old southern strategy where we used racially coded word to stoke fear, and i think we need to challenge that, but i also said last night that some issues are not left-right politics, and i think i'm left-right, conservative and liberal and they're deeper issues and they're moral issues and there's a higher politics, and a higher policy, if you will. the issue of health care shouldn't be left in the right. the issue of equal protection under the law and the issue of immigrant rights and the issue of treating the poor and providing safety and living wages should be issues that are a moral issue and they fit morally enough and the deepest constitutional values that call us to be concerned about the general welfare of all people. >> real quick, you mentioned evangelicals. 78% of white evangelicals would
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work for trump. as a man of faith, why do you think he's doing so well with them? >> i don't. it's been ever since the moral majority and it's a certain framing. i'm an evangelical. i'm a conservative, theological bib lissist and i'm in a denomination that's predominantly white and there are thousands and i encourage the media, we ought to have this conversation in the media. you ought to have someone like myself and jim forbes and tracy blackman and have someone like the falwells and the franklin grants and let's really have a real critical understanding about what is really a truly biblical evangelical position. >> reverend barber, thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you. thank you. "out front" next, two new york city billionaire businessmen, donald trump and michael boomberg. what's behind their bitter war of words? ♪ come on. ♪
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it's a battle of the new york city billionaires. in one corner former mayor michael bloomberg, now a clinton supporter and in the other corner, donald trump who had nice things to say about bloomberg before the endorsement and sunlen serfaty.
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>> it's a battle between two new york billionaires. >> i'm a new yorker, and i know a con when i see one. >> former new york city mayor michael bloomberg jabbing at trump during his democratic convention speech this week. >> trump is a risky and reckless and radical choice. >> looking to land punches at the very core of donald trump, his reputation as a successful businessman. >> trump says he wants to run the nation like he's running his business? god help us. >> reporter: a critique that seems to have hit a nerve with the gop nominee. >> i wanted to hit a couple of those speakers so hard. i would have hit them. >> reporter: trump firing back at bloomberg. >> they came out of deals with me, would you help me with this and would you solve the problem? i solved the problem and did a great job. doubling down, writing on twitter that bloomberg, quote, never had the guts to run for president, adding his last term as mayor was a disaster. but their relationship hasn't
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always been hostile. the two new yorkers have not only crossed paths, but done deals together. in 2012 working on a golf course redevelopment in the bronx while bloomberg was stale mayor. >> thank you very much, mike, and i have to say you have been a great mayor. you really have. i mean, this guy is fantastic. >> offering public praise for each other. >> donald trump is a developer who has a lots of good ideas and he's done an awful lot for this city. >> reporter: trump in 2012 giving bloomberg kudos tweeting, that's leadership. bloomberg even making cameos on trump's reality show "the apprentice". >> i'm supposed to see whether you guys can cut the muster. >> all right. >> when he flirted had with his own presidential run, their friendship began to sour. >> i would love for michael to do it. i would love michael to do it. we used to be friends. i don't think we're friewe are.
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>> no doubt that his speech was one of those lasting moments that really fed into the narrative coming out of the convention this week and one that has very clearly gotten under donald trump's skin. >> friends no longer for sure after that. sunlen, thanks so much. we'll be right back. stop... clicking around and start saving at book direct... and get the lowest price online with usaa is awesome. homeowners insurance life insurance automobile insurance i spent 20 years active duty they still refer to me as "gunnery sergeant" when i call being a usaa member because of my service in the military to pass that on to my kids something that makes me happy my name is roger zapata and i'm a usaa member for life. usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an insurance quote and see why 92% of our members
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a live look from harrisburg, pennsylvania, where hillary clinton is set to begin a campaign event any minute now. clinton and tim kaine kicking off their post-convention bus tour there, with that we'll say thank you very much. anderson cooper starts right now. ♪ ♪ good evening. thanks for joining us. welcome to the first day of the final stretch of the presidential campaign unlike any we've seen before and we're seeing plenty more of it tonight. both candidates holding events throughout the day and into the program in states that could swing the election this fall. here's our interview with julian assange who published the democratic party e-mail that possibly russia stole and leaked. apparently a new facet of that same dnc computer hack this time directly involving clinton campaign data and jeff zeleny is here to join us with that and jeff, what are you learning? >>


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