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achieving her dreams and reaching that gold medal. >> well, that's really -- >> she is just amazing. i'm ever so proud. >> i bet you are. that's really, really beautiful. coach, savanna, katherine, charlie, best of luck with all of your dreams and futures at gymnasts as well. thanks so much for being with us on "new day" this morning. >> thank you. "newsroom" with erica hill, in for carol costello, picks up after this quick break. have a great weekend. friday morning, good morning, everyone. i'm erica hill, in for carol costello. thanks for being with us. we are following two major stories this morning. stunning new developments out of brazil. cnn has learned the american consulate may have known all along that ryan lochte was never
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involved in a robbery, and asked rio police to keep the story quiet. we'll have more on that in a moment. but first, donald trump debooing a new move, the president dial pivot. we're expecting donald trump and mike pence to tour the region in louisiana with the historic floods. meantime, last night in charlotte, it was a rare act, during his second speech where he read off teleprompter, expressing regret over his rhetoric of the past. >> sometimes in the heat of debate, and speaking on a multitude of issues, you don't choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. believe it or not, i regret it. >> a change in word critics, though, noting while trump expressed remorse, he never said the words i'm sorry, nor did he state which of several comments
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he regretted. from louisiana's damage to the political fallout and frankly everything in between, we have you covered this morning. we want to begin with rosa flores is who is in livingston parish. rosa, good morning. >> reporter: hi, good morning. well, this is what trump is going to find when he arrives here in louisiana. it has been days since this flood started, and take a look. some homes are still under water. if you look closely on these home, you'll be able to see the water line, and of course, i mean, it has been days. my team and i were on a boat in this community earlier this week, and of course, the water is receding, but receding very closely. we have very few details, erica, regarding donald trump's visit to louisiana, because it was made last minute, and so you know, everybody is coming together, scrambling to put it altogether. now, all of this comes after a
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second shake-up to the trump campaign, and also, after president obama has been criticized with the biggest newspaper in louisiana, criticizing him for not coming to visit the devastated area, and instead, playing golf in martha's vineyard. now, he did send members of his cabinet yesterday, secretary jeh johnson was here in louisiana yesterday. during a press conference, i asked him a two-pronged question. i said first of all, mr. secretary, will you recommend for president obama to visit louisiana, and what will you tell them about what you saw. take a listen. >> the president can't be everywhere. i will be briefing him on what i see here, and what the status of our recovery and response efforts are. administrator fugate did the same thing after his visit two days ago. the president is closely monitoring the situation. >> will you recommend that he come visit?
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>> as i said, the president can't be everywhere. i know he has a very busy schedule this fall, and in the coming days. and he is closely monitoring the situation. we know the chief executive of the entire u.s. government, you can't be everywhere. including places you would like to be. >> reporter: now, shortly thereafter, governor edwards here from louisiana threw a lifeline at the president. take a listen. >> if he is going to visit, i would just as soon it be a week or ten days, 14 days from now. i'll tell you, it is a major ordeal. they free up the in administer tate for hi -- interstate for him, we have to take state troopers to provide security for that visit. i would just assume have those people engaged in the response, rather than trying to secure the president. >> reporter: now, governor edwards releasing a statement
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today about trump's visit. he says, quote, we welcome him to louisiana, but not for a photo op. instead, we hope he'll consider volunteering or making a sizable donati donation to the relief fund to help the victims of the storm. as we take another live pick here, you can see some of the water is still in these neighborhoods, water still in these homes, again, you can see the water line in some of these homes, especially in that garage there, erica. so recovery, very much still apart of this flood zone, and of course, we don't know exactly where donald trump will be visiting, but we understand he will be visiting or probably will be visiting some of these affected areas. >> we'll be watching that and bringing it to folks live. joining us from livingston parish this morning. does a new executive team mean a new donald trump. the candidate broke with his
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aggressive style on the stump last night, expressing remorse over comments he has made. chris frates is covering this story from washington. good morning. >> good morning, erica. do you remember the ad campaign back in the 1990s, the softer side of sears. it help put the retailer back on track. it appears donald trump's campaign is facing its own struggles, might be trying his own version of that, showing voters a more contrite sympathetic side. >> i've never been politically correct. >> donald trump doing what he refused to do throughout his campaign, expressing reforce for his controversial statements. >> sometimes in the heat of debate, and speaking on a multitude of issues, you don't choose the right words. or you say the wrong thing. i have done that. and believe it or not, i regret it. >> a complete 180 from the unapologetic tone his supporters
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have come to expect. >> i do regret it, particularly where it may have caused personal pain. too much is at stake for us to be consumed with these issues. but one thing i can promise you this. i will always tell you the truth. >> trump delivering prepared remarks, speaking for the first time since his campaign overhaul and veering away from the brash persona that could doom him in the general election. >> we're going to sharpen the message and make sure donald trump is comfortable about being in his own skin, that he doesn't lose that auth cienticity and a pollster can't give you. >> the republican nominee not saying exactly what he regrets, but his remarks after a firestorm for tacking the family of a slain muslim american soldier. i don't regret anything. i said nice things about the zon and he is yet to apologize for
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attack senator john mccain, who spent five years as a pow in vietnam. >> he is not a war hero. >> he is a war hero. >> five and a half years -- >> he was captured. i like people that weren't captured. >> there is a body of american heros that i would like to see him retract that statement. >> trump did express mild regret after retweeting an unflattering photo of heidi cruz, later telling "the new york times," it was a mistake. >> now trump and pence will arrive in baton rouge to tour the flood damage and coming on the heels of the baton rouge advocate calling on president obama to cut his vacation short, telling him, hurting louisiana needs you now. we'll see if donald trump and mike pence make a little bit of political hey out of that on their trip to louisiana, erica. >> we'll be watching for that. chris frates in washington. chris, thank you. here to discuss further, kaleigh, sally cohn, daily beast
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columnist, and for the and communications professor at morgan state university. good to have you with us on this friday morning. kaleigh, i want to start with you. there was some surprise last night and carried over into this morning on what we heard from donald trump. first of all, he was using a teleprompter. he said i regret some of the things i say, he'll be truthful. he said august 2 nd, i don't regret anything. which donald trump is it? does it stick? does it last? >> i don't think it is it is the new donald trump. he realized that his comments have caused some pain and wanted to have a maya cullpa and say i never wanted to offend or hurt anyone, and gave this that apol >> we question what a politician really says, and in this case, he said i regret some things.
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i regret some things in his words caused personal pain. but he didn't get specific. would that not have been more effective if he said i specifically regret saying this about this group, or this person or -- is that not more effective, kaleigh? >> i don't think. he needed to say if i caused anyone pain, i'm sorry for that. it is quite a contrast to hillary clinton who says i made a mistake and lies about it, and then find out on a myriad of things from the e-mails from the fbi director. i don't like apologies that are not heartfelt and followed up by lies, which is what we've seen by hillary clinton. >> you say this is heartfelt. >> i do. >> first of all -- >> i'm sorry, but when donald trump, trust me, i'll tell you the truth, look, he -- the -- both polit fact have dinged him for pants on fire liars. the "washington post" has written that at least three out
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of four assertions that donald trump has made throughout the course of his campaign have been patent lies which he gets fact checked on and repeats. politicians, the average is about 10 to 20%. donald trump hovers around 78% of not telling the truth repeatedly. number two, let's just note, and listen, if he wants to change his ways, stop insulting people, stop calling on, you know, second amendment supporters to maybe do something about hillary clinton getting elected. stop insulting heros like john mccain. i'm all for it too. but donald trump has needed a teleprompter just two times in this campaign. one, to talk about foreign policy which he asserts he knows more about it than the generals. >> i have to address this quickly. i love you bring up fact checkers. they find 2-1, they credit republican as lying and democratic as not lying. they don't quite check the facts.
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>> i'm going to let jason jump in on this one. >> i have to say, this goes on and on. i can't understand how this has lasted so long. it is so clear that donald trump isn't sincere. i would rather -- first off, what's the word we didn't hear. we didn't hear i'm sorry, okay. that's where you have an apology, like your grandma tells you if you're sorry, you swront do -- wouldn't have done it to begin with. look, i'm rough around the edges, but that's how i am and that's how i'm going to run the country. nothing he said yesterday was particularly impressive. here is the key. if you are going to say you regret your comments, you can't end your speech by saying hillary clinton and barack obama started isis. there were some good things in his speech yesterday. i love when he said i'll never put a donor over a voter. he should have been saying that all along. no one in their right mind doesn't brief elieve he is sorrn he doesn't use the words sorry.
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>> we know he is trying to make an appeal to african-american voters. here is how he made that pitch. >> if african-american voters give donald trump a chance by giving me their vote, the result for them will be amazing. look how badly things are going under decades of democratic leadership. look at the schools. look at the poverty. look at the 58% of young african-americans not working. it is time for a change. what do you have to lose by trying something new. >> so there is the pitch, jason. what do you have to lose by trying something new. if you do look at the poll numbers, in terms of donald trump and african-american voters, he has nowhere to go but up. you might as well try something.
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there has been consistent criticism that democrats are taking the african-american vote a for granted. >> the republicans never make a sincere effort. what have you got to lose is like the worst response ever. like hey, go out with me. what else are you doing oh on a friday. that's not a pitch. donald trump can say specific things he'll do for business people, ahe'll cut their taxes. veterans, he'll take care of them. why can't he come up with a specific policy for african-americans, criminal justice, education, why can't he say -- >> he has. >> he has said nothing that is specific for african-american voters. here is the key. there have 15, in some states, 20% of african-americans that will vote for republicans. saw it with john kasich. he is doing worst than several
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of the candidates running against him. this is trump's fault for not having specific policy. >> we're out of time. here is the good news, we have 81 more days. >> i hope people watch his speech, because there were specifics in there like charter -- >> that's not true. >> thank you, appreciate all of you being with us. still more to come on "newsroom," two olympic swimmers arriving home, lugging the baggage of scandal and embarrassment. we'll have those latest details, just ahead. ork state, from long island to buffalo, from rochester to the hudson valley, from albany to utica, creative business incentives, infrastructure investment, university partnerships, and the lowest taxes in decades are creating a stronger economy and the right environment in new york state for business to thrive. let us help grow your company's tomorrow- today at
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there is mike pence arriving in louisiana, just getting off the plane in baton rouge, as we learned, of course, both he and his running mate, donald trump are expected to be in baton rouge today. exact plan, as we learned from rosa flores isn't clear. this was put together quickly, so we are awaiting more details as to where they'll be going during their time in louisiana.
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the government -- the governor at one point talking about the importance oftentimes when people are coming, criticism about president obama not being on the ground yet. the governor stressing that the -- it is sometimes easier to stay away for the bit, because of the sheer logistics it takes when you have people of this stature who have these security requirements, and concerns. so it will be interesting to see who they speak with, who they meet, where they head today. again, mike pence arriving there in baton rouge and we'll continue to monitor that situation as we watch for donald trump's arrival as well. returning now to the story out of rio, from rio, in fact, to miami. two olympic swimmer back in the u.s. the robbery scandal has followed them home. nick paton walsh is in rio with more on this for us. boy, talk about some changing details in the last few days. what's the latest this morning, nick? >> reporter: you say story. i mean, it has been stories,
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frankly, and very messy ones. yes, we know this day is probably the last of the four some, james feigen will try to go home, after the reported $11,000 payment to charity goes through, that will probably release his passports, according to reporting allows him to leave. but then still we've had the united states olympic committee to dry a line, issuing an apology on behalf of the swimmers, the representatives of the swimmerswimmers, urinating vandalzation, but it has overshadowed the ends of the games here. it may be an issue to perception, frankly, but what a mess it has caused. this morning, swimmers gunnar, and bentz arrived, after ryan lochte's story was not true.
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the u.s. olympic committee apologizing for the action of four u.s. swimmers, saying the behavior is not acceptable, nor does it represent the values of team usa. we apologize to our hosts in rio, and the people of brazil, for this distracting ordeal. brazilian police say the athletes were not robbed, and that they are not victims. police say they were held by security at this gas station, after urinating in the back alley and vandalizing a bathroom. >> translator: the athletes was disturbed somehow. he was actually very, kind of angry, so there is the use of a weapon to control probably one of them. the answer yes. >> reporter: the surveillance video shows one of the athletes bending over, seeming to pull up his pants before an attendant appears. they then leave the alley, attempts to get in a taxi, but not theirs. once in the correct car, an armed security guard approaches,
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demanding that they stay until police arrive. the they're later seen sitting on the curb and lochte taking something out of his pocket. they were told they had to pay for the damage they caused. >> translator: they gave the money almost just to like pay for the damage that they caused and leave the place before the police could arrive. >> reporter: ryan lochte is back in the u.s., remaining silent after brazilian officials say his account on sunday was fabricated. >> we got pulled over in the taxi and these guys came out with a badge, a police badge. they pulled us over. they pulled out their guns. >> reporter: but lochte's attorney is backing up his client's claim, saying a gun was pointed at the swimmers, and they were force today get out of the cab and give up their money. no matter what country you are in, that's robbery and robbery is a serious crime.
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now, the question, there is no dispute it seems at this stage about the actions behind that gas station building and the urinating. it was as the u.s. olympic committee says, the fact that the security guards had firearms on display was that somehow a role in the money being handed over. if you hear the police, it was simply compensation given voluntarily. if you listen to mr. lockie, they said they were robbed. we may never get to the answer of this. this is 6:00 a.m., after a night of celebrating. but this has overshadowed the end of the games. >> nick, thank you. there are a lot of layers to peel away. we want to bring in two different perspectives. lee steinberg is a sports attorney. they're seeing a lot of this
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backlash. lee, for ryan lochte, his career in many ways, he has done well. he has made money. been in multiple games. what is left at this point? has this done his career in? >> here, you have an athlete who has almost $6 million worth of endorsements from seven major endorsers, and this is an incident which has been covered by thousands of different reporters, both electronic and print. and it is overshadowed all the other olympians who have spent their whole lives to get to this moment. so it has cast a paul over all of that, and not very popular with all of our olympians from katie ledecky to our fabulous gymnasts. what he needs to do, and has needed to do quickly, is come forward, if i were advising him. i would have him go back to brazil, do a press conference,
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admit that he was wrong, apologize to brazil, to the other athletes, to every constituen constituency, admit wrong, make a gesture towards trying to somehow make it right. and then he could move on. he wants to go to another olympics, but right now, he is a villain in the eyes of the american public, and also, the international community. so he needed to move quickly. what happens now is you get this viral cycle of lochte villain that goes over and over again, and by the time it is done, if he doesn't act and these other three swimmers don't apologize themselves, not the committee, this will be an enduring image that people view them through. >> so that's the public perception angle of it. we mentioned even just here the daily news this morning calling them the lochte mess monster. but laura, from a legal
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perspective, if he did follow leigh's advice, what kind of ramifications could he face? what kind of potential charges are still a possibility, if any at this point? >> well, providing false testimony to a police officer. kind of like how we think about perjury here in the united states, but i would advise him really not to go back to brazil, because if he goes back to brazil, he has different ramifications and less protection than if he is actually abroad. why people care about this case, erica, and why the perception is so bad is not because it is a matter of semantics, whether he believed he was robbed or not. the point is it is not the story he gave the administers in brazil. it took away resources from possibility prosecuting other crimes and put a stain on brazil that was not necessarily needed to be there. and so when you take a false report to police, people get very angry, particularly when you try to be-smurche, it would be the same thing in the united states.
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>> there is also the issue of the three younger swimmer whose are younger than ryan lochte. some questions as to how this all went down, who may or may not have been the ringleader in terms of the story or stories that we were hearing. what is the extent of the damage on these three younger swimmers and their careers. >> it has a negative impact on the way they're perceived. i go through this in damage control with american athletes occasionally. and the lawyers always want to have the best facts for their case. when i tell the lawyers, the best way to leverage your position is have repennant athlete, have the athlete apologize. it takes all the sting out of the case. but here, they've been mum. we haven't heard a thing from them. the committee stood in front of them. they need to step up and take responsibility. we understand that young men make mistakes. it is not the hugest thing in
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the world. as long as they take responsibility, and show their repennant, then the healing process can begin, and overtime, it goes away. but as long as they sit silent, and -- >> the silence is deafening, right. we'll be watching to see what we hear, of course, two of them just arriving back in the u.s. we'll continue to follow that. thank you for being with us this morning. coming up next hour, i'll speak with a former swimmer who found himself apologizing tots world after pulling a prank at the seoul olympics. what does he have for the four young swimmers, coming up. also still to come, a plane full of cash. leverage, not ransom. a state department speaking out about that $400 million handed over to iran. and the critics are pouncing. when i have a headache,
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from just moments ago, mike pence arriving in baton rouge, louisiana. donald trump expected to join him there. we don't know exactly what their itinerary is as they arrive to look at the devastating flooding that has hit that area of the state. we'll keep an eye on it for you throughout the morning. hillary clinton told fbi investigators that colin powell said to use her own e-mail account. "the new york times" reporting that revelation was included in the notes the fbi handed over to congress earlier this week from their interview with clinton in july. powell's office says he doesn't recall a conversation with her about that, though he had described his own experience in an email to clinton. powell has written about his personal email for unclassified messages and how he believes it improved technology at the state department. the times reports unlike
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clinton, powell did not have a private server at his home, nor use outside contractors. the clinton foundation is announcing major changes to the way it operates. if hillary clinton becomes president, among them, bill clinton will no longer give paid speeches, and the foundation will be much more scrupulous about just who it accepts donations from. cnn money correspondent is following all of this. the scrutiny of the foundation, what people are paid for speeches, who is sending in that money. what would actually change? >> well, let's get into the details of what would change. first, it is important to point out that this criticism, not -- it is not just coming from the critics of the clintons, but also supporters, who say that the appearance alone of a conflict warrants the foundation to shut down. now, to get more specific about what's going on, the clinton foundation, if hillary clinton is elected, will no longer take donations from corporate and foreign donors.
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and it is going to effectively shut down the most controversial part of the program, the clinton global initiative. that is -- those are the events which members pay essentially $20,000 in membership fees to essentially get access to the clintons, right. so effectively, no more clinton global initiative and bill clin tonight won't be making any more paid speeches. how does it continue to operate without these sources of funding. listen, the foundation and the campaign were well aware that these things were going to become an issue. that's why when hillary clinton announced her presidency, her bid for running for president, the clinton foundation limited the number of countries it accepted donations from. it was only going to accept donations from australia, canada, germany, the netherlands, norway and the uk. in fact, i just checked before coming on set, and australia, in the form of a government grant,
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gave the clinton foundation grant to the clinton foundation between 10 and $25 million, just a few months ago. so critics are saying why wait, right. >> why not do it -- >> exactly. why not do it now. then you have the rnc coming out saying, listen, this actually looks worst, right. if you had the rnc saying that if everything was above board, why change a thing. and that's the point of this. it seems like the clintons on the clinton foundation just can't win at this point. >> as you talk about a lot, it is really the optics that matter the most. we'll see what changes come out of this. we're learning about obama administration $400 million payment to iran in january. the state department now saying it held up the plane of cash to ensure four american prisoners were released by iran first, but insists it was not a ransom payment.
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saying that the state department was leveraging money that was already iran's. donald trump has used the latest revelation to attack his opponent, trump claiming hillary clinton owns president obama's iran policy, and saying this is proof that she is unfit to be president. still to come, trump knows all about showbiz, so why are some beginning to think that the presidency isn't the real prize for donald trump after all. could it be more about bright lights. that's next. well, it was nice to see everyone.
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>> glenn beck raising the possibility that donald trump is already looking past the white house, and on to building a media empire. he is not the only one. the los angeles time posting an op-ed that reads one possible conclusion that trump that recently acknowledged he might end up taking a nice long vacation after november, has realized he is going to lose. he has therefore recruited bannon and ailes back up plan. ailes being ousted, and bannon being the breitbart news boss, turned to the executive. let's talk to tjulian, and late night, with bill carter. good to have you both here. from the beginning, there has been speculation that donald trump was maybe never really in this to try to get to the white house. it was never the end goal. but here we are, right. he is the gop nominee.
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and yet, julian, you're making the case that maybe this is all part of a different end game. it is a ploy for a media empire. so do you really see that as the end game for donald trump? >> well, the argument wasn't that he set out to do this from the beginning, and we both believe that this campaign became pretty serious. it is still serious. but right now, the polling is not positive for donald trump, any polling really at this point. we imagine he is thinking of what comes next, and he is also someone who i think has enjoyed this, being part of the political game. so the media is a natural outpost for him. he came from the apprentice. not from real estate. and it is easy to imagine this is the next step. >> he consistently makes the case for himself why he is a good candidate and a good businessman. he likes to make deals and good at it. he recognizes opportunity. from a business perspective, bill, this is already a very crowded media landscape. >> exactly. >> is there a really viable path for him if this were -- >> you can see that it is taking
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shape in a way that people are speculating that fox news may be changing, because of the murdock sons taking over. but you can't start a cable network easily now. it is difficult to get distribution. they would almost have to buy an existing channel that had distribution if they were going to try to launch this. they may see an avenue there. the whole breitbart phenomenon proves there is an audience to the right of fox. all the way to the right of fox, that you might be able to play to, and that certainly seems to have been the base for trump. he would have a built-in audience if they could create it. it would be very difficult and it would take a lot of investment. >> you reference this article in your piece, vanity fair pointing out donald trump all of a sudden said that, you know, maybe i'll read it right here. he wants to bring his message directly to the people. it almost made it seem like, you know, was he testing the waters. being this kind of spontaneous person on the trail, when there
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isn't a teleprompter, is a chance he was thinking that far forward two months ago, let me throw this out there, see what sticks? >> it is hard to know what trump was thinking or is thinking. so he is a bit of an agnima and pretty mysterious. he came in with this audience, because of his reality show, and during the campaign, it hasn't been a traditional campaign. it has been about creating and developing this media persona, and trying to say that's the way it to win political power. it has been on his mind and i think he is very good at that part of the campaign, and so it is easy to see him transferring that to a world where there is already space for former politicians to go on the air and to continue with their ideas. >> my experience with trump and i dealt with him a lot when i used to write for "the new york times" and he when the apprentice started, he wasn't committed to that. he tried to distance himself
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from that, but he saw opportunity. as soon as it started to hit, look what i can build from this and make clothes and everything else. he does react to opportunities. so i could see that. i don't think it was strategy going in. >> right. >> but as is this this taking shape and he thinks the press is unfair to him, i can see him maybe thinking this way now. >> how do you -- i mean it is so hard to know, like you said, what he is thinking now, what he could be thinking with this move. business issues aside, there is this audience out there, as we've all talked about. could it be him joining forces with somebody else, maybe not the breitbarts, but maybe a conglomerati conglomeration. >> that might be what he is doing, but i don't want to distance him too much from the election. i think he would still like to win. i think that he is more comfortable with these people. that's another aspect of this. i don't think you should write off he is behind in the polls,
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because things can happen and i think in his heart wants to win. he didn't want to come out saying i'm a loser. he doesn't ever want to be a loser. >> if we have learned one thing in this election season, none of us should try to predict what will happen next. an excellent point. the media, the polling alone. bill carter and julian, thanks very much. >> thank you. still to come, it is one of the most talked about interviews this week. says who? social media. all of it. energy is a complex challenge. . and power plants account for more than a third of energy-related carbon emissions. the challenge is to capture the emissions before they're released into the atmosphere. exxonmobil is a leader in carbon capture.
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you are looking at live pictures right now of mike pence there on the tarmac.
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he's at the airport in baton rouge, louisiana, where he arrive a short time ago. now, we learned -- not a lot of notice to be honest in terms of the way these visits often go, that mike pence and donald trump would be going to louisiana today. this comes on the heels of a scathing open ed which called on the president to visit, the governor though of the state saying they don't want this to be a photo op for trump and pence. it began as a simple question about donald trump's latest pivot in his presidential bid. but very soon turned into a social media sensation. jeanne moos has more on how a trump supporter's interview with one of cnn's own dominated the headlines. >> reporter: it was a little like the old abbott and costello routine about the guy with the last name "who" playing first base. >> who's on first. >> yes. >> i mean the guy's name. >> who. >> who is on first. >> what are you asking me for?
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i don't know. >> reporter: now imagine that in slow motion. an exchange between cnn's brianna keilar and trump attorney michael cohen has become an instant campaign classic. >> you guys are down and -- >> says who? says who? >> polls. most of them. all of them. >> reporter: that led to an awkward five seconds of silence. >> says who? >> polls. i just told you. i answered your question. >> okay. which polls? >> all of them. >> reporter: i watched it five times. it's hypnotic posted one person. her single raised eyebrow at the end deserves an emmy on its own. >> which polls? >> all of them. >> reporter: that ended up on a mock "make america great again" hat. but the big takeaway seems to be -- >> says who? >> reporter: #sayswho became a thing. the aftermath of the interview, you're fired. says who. who else says who? either trump's attorney was in
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denial about the polls. >> doing his best impression of an owl. >> reporter: the exchange inspired knock knock jokes. knock knock. who's there. says. says who. the polls. all of them. #allofthem picked up steam with an olympic theme. so you're losing this race. >> says who? >> reporter: the clocks. >> which clocks? >> reporter: all of them. there was even a poll pitting "says who" against "all of them." all of them won by a landslide. in the wake of brianna's interview, trump's attorney told yahoo! news, i think i unravelled her. mm, let's take a poll on that. >> which polls? >> what are you asking me for? i don't know. >> reporter: jeanne moos. >> cnn. >> reporter: new york. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" begins after a short break.
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good morning, i'm erica hill in for carol costello this morning. thanks for being with us. we're following a developing story out of louisiana. donald trump's running mate mike pence is on the ground there. he landed in baton rouge a short time ago. the pair are expected to tour parts of the region left drowning in these historic floods we've been telling you about. that visit may come with some hiccups. the governor's office telling cnn no one from the trump campaign has reached out to them. adding we welcome trump to louisiana but not for a photo op, instead, we hope he'll consider volunteering or making a sizable donation. the louisiana flood relief fund to help the victims. rosa flores jobs us like from
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st. lamont, on the ground there for some time. good morning to you. >> good morning. this is what donald trump is going to find whenever he comes out into these communities to survey damage. you can see some homes are still under water. this is st. lamont, louisiana, and the floodwaters started rising quickly here, some residents tell me, on the 16th, and we're on the 19th. here we are with all of these floodwaters. like you mentioned, erica, donald trump expected to arrive here very soon in the area of baton rouge. we're about 45 minutes from that location. this is what you're going to find. his visit of course comes after a second shake-up in the camp trump and after president obama has been criticized because he hasn't visited the louisiana area and these devastated areas yet. he did send one cabinet member, secretary jay johnson. i was at the press conference yesterday when he was there and i took the opportunity to ask
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him about why the president has not arrived. and if he will recommend to the president to visit louisiana. here's what he said. >> the president can't be everywhere. will be briefing him on what i see here and what the status of our recovery and response efforts are. administrator fugate did the same thing after his visit here two days ago. so the president is closely monitoring the situation. >> will you recommend he visit? >> as i said, the president can't be everywhere. i know he has a very busy schedule this fall and then in the coming days. he is closely monitoring the situation. when you're the chief executive of the entire u.s. government, you can't be everywhere, including places you would like to be. >> now, very shortly after that, the governor throwing a lifeline at the president, take a listen. >> i would just as soon it be a
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week, 10 days from now. it is a major ordeal. they free up the interstate for him. we have to take hundreds of local first responders, sheriff deputies and state troopers to provide security for that type of visit. i would just as soon have those people engaged in the response rather than trying to secure the president. >> reporter: now, governor edwards had a similar thing to say about trump's visit. here's the statement, quote, we welcome him to louisiana, but not for a photo op. instead, we hope he'll consider volunteering or making a sizable location to the louisiana flood relief fund to help the victims of this storm. as we take another live picture here, erica, i just want to give you a sense as to how this water has been receding. i was with first responders a few days ago on a boat in this particular area and you can see that there is still water.
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that's one of the things we're hearing from first responders. in some of these areas, the water is receding very, very slowly. >> so tough as we know with the water table and just the way louisiana is set up in general, the water doesn't really have anywhere to go, presenting a separate challenge. rosa flores, thank you. there's some talk about this new executive team he's brought on for the campaign and whether or not it means a new donald trump. the candidate broke with his oppressive style on the stump last night, expressing remorse over comments he's made. >> sometimes in the heat of debate and speaking on a multitude of issues, you don't choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. i have done that.
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and, believe it or not, i regret it. >> we are covering the story from washington this morning. good morning. >> good morning, erica. this new tone from donald trump is so remarkable because, put simply, it is so uncharacteristic for donald trump to admit any sort of wrongdoing whatsoever. notably, he did not say the words "i am sorry," not an apology formally, but he did rather prefer to kind of give a blanket statement of remorse to all the people he has offended over the course of his campaign. here's more of what he had to say last night. >> i do regret it, it particularly where it may have caused personal pain. too much is at stake for us to be consumed with these issues. but one thing i can promise you this, i will always tell you the truth.
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>> and the clinton campaign has been very quick to point out, to say, look, this isn't a change, don't believe this is donald trump change his ways and saying, look, the very day he announced his candidacy, he offended and refused to apologize. they gave the announcement in his announcement address, he calls mexican immigrants rapists. a whole list of controversies that this has been the pattern, everything from john mccain to his criticism of judge kirel. and there's been a major pushback and he refuses to apologize. coming out of the convention in philadelphia of course, the muslim parents of the american soldier killed in war, that moving address directed towards donald trump, where donald trump was really engulfed in another form of criticism, and then he refused to back down, saying he did not regret the criticism of
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the parents. here's what he said earlier this month. >> i don't regret anything. i said nice things about the son and i feel that very strongly. but of course i was hit very hard from the stage. you know, it's just one of those things. no, i don't regret anything. >> now of course donald trump changes to large, not specifically other that area, erica, but the big question is will this change the tone, will this strategy stick. >> meantime, we are just learning this breaking news. paul manafort, the donald trump campaign, is confirming, has resigned from the campaign. of course, some big changes and shake-ups there over the last few days. paul manafort of course was brought in in the last few months to shake things up with the last regime change. he had been demoted somewhat. and as we're understanding and learning this morning, cnn confirming paul manafort did, in
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fact, offer his resignation according to the campaign and it was accepted. what does that mean? it adds a little more to our plate this morning and it's already a full one for david gergen, cnn political analyst and of course former presidential adviser to knicks be, ford, reagan and clinton. also with us, the former assistant commandant of the marine corps. david, i want you to weigh in first, is it a surprise at all? >> well, there are several surprises. first, i don't think it's a surprise that paul manafort has resigned. i think the big surprise is whether we're watching a switcher switcheroo, one of the biggest ever in politics. paul manafort was seen as the person most influential and aggressive to try to get trump to pivot, to become more moderate, to express regrets as he did last night. he's been replaced. he's been basically forced out by two people coming in now who
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are coming in from the so-called dark side of politics, who were expected to make trump even more abrasive. what does he do the first night? he goes soft on the opening and says he expresses his regrets. are these people from the dark side really moving him, getting the po pivot that manafort couldn't? i think we have to wait and see. the one thing we're see quickly with the new team is they're responding to events more rapidly, events that are in the news, you know, sending donald trump down to louisiana was a very smart move, given all the kind of criticism that's going on about president obama being on vacation. but very importantly, donald trump picked up on that state department story about iran and the relationship of payments to hostages being released and he got it right into his speech. he's riding the events of the day i think more cleverly, more aggressively, and that could be one of the first changes. but whether there's a true pivot
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and a new donald trump after 15 months, i think we shouldn't be swayed by one night. let's give it a little time. >> wait and see what happens but definitely as you point out, david, in the last 36 houres or so, we have seen a shift. general, as commander in chief, there's been a lot of talk about the tone and the temperament of donald trump and whether or not that fits the role of commander in chief. up until this point, he said very clearly this is the person that you want to have in charge. i don't back down from my words. i don't go back on what i said. now we're seeing, though, this little bit of a shift, this soften, as david put it, that we saw last night. which of those approaches in general is going to be more effective on a world stage? >> well, thank you very much for having me this morning. i believe the president has to be seen and heard by the american people and by our friends and our enemies to be
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clear, to be consistent, to be honest about the facts as he sees it and when he's wrong to change course. not of course productive for american security and the security of americans and our friends. so i think while i watched the campaign as things go up and down around, i look at the basic temperament. is he honest? is he truthful? does he have a consistent eye towards the american people, their well being, their security and our national interest, and i think that will be the telling thing. an honest forth right strong consistently focused on the american people and their values. >> would it have been more effective, he cape ome out last night and said i have regrets and i will always tell the truth but he wasn't specific about the
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regrets, when he said i may have caused personal pain. general, would it have been more effective on both a domestic and international stage if he got down to sort of brass tacks on that and was specific? >> well, it probably would have affected the newscasters today, but i will tell you i thought that was a very personal speech on mr. trump's part. he was open kimono. i heard an apology there very clearly. it was a recognition that he was losing his core message which was, as i said, about the well being and the security of americans, and what i call his new approach to both domestic policy and foreign policy. so i think it was a very good speech, a very honest speech. and, like the rest of what he said, you can expect him from
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his heart to tell us the truth. >> i want to get some more on what we're learning in terms of what we're learning about the stepping down, the resignation of paul manafort. a source is telling cnn he was concerned he was becoming a distraction to the campaign. as we mentioned, the campaign putting out a statement which reads, and i'm quoting, this morning, paul manafort offered and i accepted his resignation from the campaign. i am appreciative for his great work in helping us get us where we are today and his work through the process. paul is a true professional and i wish him the greatest success. this was signed donald j. trump. interesting to note we're hearing from sources manafort was concerned he was becoming a distraction. there were a couple of different news reports of course this week further broadening his involvement with different issues in ukraine. what is it specifically or what have you been hearing in
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political circles -- as we watch i believe trump's plane making its way into baton rouge. with 81 days to go now, the last thing the campaign needs is another destruction, sundlen. >> you're absolutely right. i think this is a clear admission by the trump campaign they were not on the right trajectory and this is a recalibration. there were of course questions and criticisms about paul manafort's ties to lobbying abroad. but it seeps t seems the bigges nail in the coffin was his relationships with the campaign. it appears he had been the one really pushing back on donald trump, trying to make those so-called presidential pivots. it seems that donald trump felt a little shackled in sort of his command or his request for the candidate to shape up and do things the way that doesn't come naturally to him. in that statement you read by donald trump campaign, i thought
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it was notable that they kind of specifically pointed out that paul manafort was specifically brought in to be this convention guru, this guy who could help lead their delegate strategy when, then, it was thought there would be a contested convention going into cleveland in august. and then he kind of took on a bigger role within the campaign. after corey lewandowski was out as campaign manager, he was not elevated to campaign manager then, which was notable, but certainly had significant influence in the campaign. but it does seem in the course of the last few weeks, certainly over the plunging of his poll numbers in the last few weeks, that he was trying to push the candidate to a place he clearly did not want to be. >> cnn political director david chalian with us. i want to point out to folks watching of course that is donald trump's plane arriving in baton rouge. he's joining mike pence there on the ground.
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it's interesting timing, david, that we are seeing donald trump's plane arrive. there he is, he's going to be on the ground with his running mate. we know the governor of louisiana has said, look, you may be better off waiting a little bit, i don't want this to just be a photo op. and yet those optics could go a long, long way with voters and as that image is coming at us, david chalian, we're also learning now paul manafort is stepping down because he doesn't want to be a distraction. are the two somehow canceling each other out here? >> no, i don't know they're canceling each other out. there's no shortage of news coming from the trump campaign this week. let's deal with manafort first. i see the plane is coming to a rest shortly and we can then talk about the baton rouge visit. erica, i think, you know, manafort was clearly demoted in this process. i know earlier in the week when the campaign shake-up happened, kelly anne conway was talking about how there were the four core people and that this was just an expansion and adding two. but paul manafort was clearly
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side lined in this process, even though he had retained that title of chairman. as you noted, these stories that have come out all week long about his work in ukraine, his russian ties, that clearly was starting to become a distraction, as our sources tell dana bash, paul manafort said i don't want to be a distraction. when you combine the fact he was becoming a distraction or at least he thought so, according to our sources, and he had been side lined, getting out of the way completely clearly made the most sense here. i do think what you're seeing, though, when you see donald trump l.a. night trying out a change in tone, talking about regrets, when you see his new campaign manager, kellyanne conway, out on shows, doing interviews day in and day out now, talking about the past forward here, when you see a commitment, bringing on steve bannon to take on the fight in a brawler kind of way to hillary clinton every day, you are seeing the emergence here of
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what seems to be a new team and perhaps a new strategy for these final 80 days in the campaign. this trip to baton rouge is part of that. i think it is showing sort of a flexibility. a nimbleness, if you will, that this clearly was going on. this devastation in louisiana. and donald trump and his running mate mike pence coming together on the campaign trail to go and see it for themselves, get a briefing on this. express their sympathy to the residents down there in louisiana. both to contrast the fact that president obama is on vacation and has not made this visit. we know the democratic governor there of course said that's not needed. that would be a diversion of resources. nonetheless, this is a clear contrast with president obama and a clear opportunity for donald trump to reach out to voters in a sympathetic fashion. those two things are pretty powerful messages to get out there in a week when you're trying to set forth a new course. >> david gergen, i know you said we do -- and i think most would agree, we do need to wait and
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see what happened. last night was one thing. last night's speech was one thing. if you add up everything we've seen in the last 36 hours, it's fascinating. as we hear kellyanne conway talk about she's going to let donald trump be trump. you don't want to mess with the person they have. and yet, at least from the outside, there's clearly a lot of activity happening behind the scenes. and he appears to be listening. how important are all of these -- these moments we're seeing, these optics we're seeing, these photo ops, as you put them together moving forward? >> they would be very, very important. if, if, if they continue. we've been to this story before. we've been to this well before. when he told people, i'm going to change. i can guarantee it. republicans have been repeatedly told that. and then three days later, he comes out with one of these really explosive statements. i just think we have to be a little skeptical here. about that there's some dramatic
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transformation taking place, until we actually see it, and see proof over fitime. if there's a softer presidential side from trump that has not emerged but his new team can bring out, more power to them. they can put him back into much stronger convention. but three days from now, you know, in an offhand remark explodes on something, we'll say that was a very short-lived pivot. i think we have to be a little careful here. i do think what he's got is he's got some very smart people who are good tactical people around him. they're very good at tactics. but we also have to remember, where they came from. when you've got the guy who ran breitbart coming in. which is ultraconservative. you know, it's just hard to believe that donald trump is suddenly going to start reaching out to all the moderates who have been uncomfortable with him
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and all the college educated white women he needs as voters. >> we heard him say earlier this week in an interview, lis, i am who i am, i'm not going to change, this is who you get. >> yeah, exactly. >> so interesting to see. i want to bring in dana bash with us on the phone. you have some reporting to share with us. >> that's right, erica, that, you know, the statement that the trump campaign put out was pretty basic and bland and i think kind of perfunctory in terms of trump thanking manafort for his service. i'm told as part of manafort's resignation, he made clear, personally, to donald trump, that he recognized that manafort said to him that he was becoming a distraction. as we know and as cnn has been reporting, a lot over the past two weeks about manafort's business ties to russia what he did with the ukraine and so on and so forth.
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and the fact that has still been going on certainly i think ma a manafort understood did not help for a candidate, as you all were talking about, who wants at least to try to turn the corner and a candidate who himself has his own distractions, if you will, had been on a weekly sometimes daily basis. the last thing he needs is somebody who's at a senior level or was at a senior level to add to that. as i say that, as i report this to you, i think, you know, it goes without saying that the fact is paul manafort was pushed out. at the beginning of the week. so it is not a big, big surprise that being pushed out, plus being the subject of some unwanted news stories, the combination of that made it pretty unsustainable for manafort. >> sorry, dana, i missed just the last part of what you said,
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but i know you were pointing out the fact it's pretty clear paul manafort was pushed out. as we look at the changes that we've seen over the week and i'm going to put you on the spot here so i apologize in advance. if you don't have this information. but i'm wondering if there are any more rumblings about further changes to come behind the scenes there with the trump/pence campaign. or even david chalian, you may have heard that. i understand this, as i may be putting you guys on the spot. just wondering if there may be any more rumblings what hearing in terms of further shakeout behind the scenes that could be coming to the trump/pence campaign. >> the team will continue to expand. kellyanne conway's been talking about that.
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especially in the key battleground states. but i don't think there are rumblings -- there's not much more of the old leadership to shake up and bring in. there's a new leadership team in place there. and as dana was saying, it's not terribly surprising that manafort would end up leaving the campaign after clearly being side lined earlier in the week. so now it sort of seems the shake-up, if you will, that we reported on, on wednesday, is now complete. >> now complete. as we move into the next phase. as we talk about for people who are just joining us, we are of course talking about the news that paul manafort has resigned. saying to our dana bash reporting that he had told the campaign he was concerned he was becoming a distraction. we've been talking about, too, just the changes that we've seen in donald trump in just the last i would say 36 hours or so. maybe not even. there was the speech last night given on teleprompter where he talked about the fact he has said some things he regrets.
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that even mentioning the fact some of them may have caused some personal pain for people. he was not specific about which comments or people he was referring to but referencing that, saying he would be truthful. one of the other things that stood out, as well, we know, and david chalian, we were talking about some of this earlier that donald trump needs to reach out to a broader base in order to up his numbers as we move into november. and david gergen, we heard him reaching ought specifically to african-american voters flif s basically saying look, the democrats take you for grant, they have forgotten you, and then said what have you got to lose. could it be effective to lay that case out for voters that they are being taken for granted in certain areas of this country, and that donald trump is worth a shot? >> certainly worth a shot.
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some of the rhetoric last night was reminiscent of what he said before, about people being poor, having more of an opportunity in life. that was rhetoric that, you know, often doesn't -- you don't often associate with republicans. and so i think it would be welcome. but i also think you have to put that against the fact that the people now running the campaign, you know, especially mr. bannon, have had a reputation of walking very close to the edge on racism. so how much of this is real and how much of it's a feint, i don't think we know. i think there's one other question, and i'd love david chalian's view on this, if he's still there, in terms of the relationships at the top of the trump campaign. where do the children now fit into this? where does ivanka fit into this? and where does her husband jared fit in? do they remain influential voices? after all, they have been associated with the forces that
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did want to have their father turn -- become more presidential, to pivot, and we haven't read their names as being influential in bringing in bannon and promoting kellyanne conway. where do they stand? i think that's an interesting piece of this still to come out. >> it's an excellent question, david. it is, indeed, true that jared kushner had come back. he and ivanka were in croatia on vacation. came back to participate in the meeting at trump tower to announce and set the new changes in place with the top leadership. so i do think that there is no waning, there's no diminishment of influence of the children -- >> but david, wouldn't you be surprised if ivanka was recommending bannon? they just seem like oil and water to me. >> yes, i think we -- we have to
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be a little careful about overinterpreting the staff changes. no doubt, bannon, where he comes from, breitbart, looking at that i think is a key com poe nent here, but so too is kellyanne conway. i really think it's important we just keep watching the candidate, as you're saying, david, does he continue down the path we saw last night. is that a sustained new tone, new message? if it is, that doesn't necessarily match up exactly as if steve bannon were the candidate himself. so we need to be a little careful about over interpreting the staff here. if the candidate himself seems to be determined to change course. i think that's going to be obviously the much more key signal to watch. >> it is an interesting point to bring up, though. david gergen brought up, david chalian, that you followed up on there, in terms of the children, because we have heard maybe in the past ivanka trump has tried
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to get him to soften his language, to say, maybe i didn't mean things this way, perhaps i should not have talked in that manner. perhaps i did not choose the right words. and i'm interested, too, just in your take, you know, as an analyst, david, and as you look at this, as a former adviser, how influential ivanka has been to this point, someone like an ivanka trump, in terms of softening him with important groups, women among them, and how he may still need that moving forward, david gergen. >> well, ivanka was extraordinarily important in the early going. he obviously loves his daughter so much. but he relied heavily on her judgment through the early stages of the campaign. there have been some insiders who have said privately that he has not been listening to her as much. we haven't seen as much of her on the campaign trail recently. i think it's a bit of a mystery right now about what exactly -- where exactly she fits in to
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this. it does seem to me her approach to politics, what she believes in. the sophisticated woman from new york who's, you know, a good corporate executive, and wants to -- and has really influenced her father on women's issues, empowering women and the child care, for example. but it's just unimaginable to me she would say, dad, i saw this fellow steve bannon and you should hire him, it doesn't seem to fit who she is. >> that is the part that is perplexing. i want to bring in general mangus. when we are bringing up points in terms of someone like a steve bannon being brought in, when we know donald trump is working to expand the base of his support, does that concern you at all? as a trump supporter?
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whether or not this was the right move? >> well, i think, like any good commander, mr. trump is going to evaluate his own performance, as well as the performance of his principal advisers. i think i would take a look at what we've seen in recent years. how often presidents have changed chiefs of staff. either because of a change of focus or, as you say, someone who is becoming distracting to the mission that the president had. and certainly this president had -- president obama has mentioned the very historical teams. and lincoln went through a series of campaign managers. they were called commanding generals. until he found the one who fit
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with his philosophy. but most important was winning in the mission. i think that's exactly what mr. trump is doing. is that he's shifting his mix. he is shifting what i call a new approach to make sure that his message is becoming clearer and consistent and not just to the groups of people who are his core supporters, but to the middle of america and all of america. >> we are going to continue to follow these events out of baton rouge, as you can see, the motorcade making its way out of the airport. we're going to take a short break as we continue to follow the developments this morning within the trump campaign and on the ground there. you're watching cnn. we'll be right back. this just got interesting. why pause to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph,
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just moments ago, donald trump and mike pence making their way down from the plane. donald trump arriving not long ago in baton rouge, louisiana. so we'll be watching to see where he and his running mate are headed. making their way out of the airport on their way on to the ground. where the devastating is devastating to say the very least. the worst natural disaster since superstorm sandy. we'll see what's happening on the ground with donald trump. meantime, plenty of other things involving donald trump to talk about this morning. still with us this morning, david gergen, cnn political analyst, as well as david chalian, cnn political director, sunlen serfaty, scottie nell hughes, trump supporter, also with us. good to have all of you here. i want to get some take on what we're seeing. so this morning, we have seen donald trump and mike pence make their way to baton rouge on the
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heels of a speech last night which donald trump delivered saying he does have some regrets about things that he said, telling supporters they can expect to hear him tell the truth. he was not specific on what he regretted. then we're also seeing further movement within the campaign. paul manafort resigning just this morning. as a republican strategist, i wonder, your take on this, as we see these moves, there's some swift action happening behind the scenes, one would imagine. >> sure, it was a 911-er. anyone who's bin solved in campaigns can look at the trends going on with donald trump's campaign and see it was a disaster. all the polls show him losing. double digits in places like virginia, wisconsin, colorado, pennsylvania. places that he needs to win. so it was clear paul manafort was a dead man walking a few weeks ago. you know, post convention, the reports were coming out there was dissension, that paul manafort was frustrated with the
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candidate and we can clearly see donald trump's behavior since then has been all over the place and created this tsunami, this hemorrhaging of support for him. so it was clear that a shake-up needed to happen. again, when you have this level of turmoil at this point in the campaign, it never bodes well. because these changes are stepping on donald trump's message. some would say donald trump's speeches this week were good for him and that's the kind of messaging he should stay on. but unfortunately, all of these personnel changes and this one's out, this one. we're talking about that instead of what he was trying to say in his speeches. so maybe this is the final pivot. i don't know. we've said this multiple times. but it's never a good sign when you have to change the top of your campaign structure three types in the past few months, especially this close to the election. >> in terms of stepping on message, david gergen, there's also the very clear language that is being chosen. of course, that happens with anything, politics, business, you name it. but for the campaign to refer to this as an expansion, not so
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much as a shake-up, is that message getting through, david gergen? >> no, it's a shake-up and everybody knows that. i actually have some disagreement with her in the sense here he's got this major dramatic reshuffling and it is a third and at that point you begin to think, wait a minute, this campaign is in terrible trouble. heading for a disaster. and yet even though that's the big story he's getting a lot of attention through that one line or a couple lines in his speech last night saying he had regrets. he's going to get a lot of attention for going to louisiana. i think they've done a better job than one would have expected given the disarray that appeared to be occurring in that camp. he's done a better job of getting himself a little righted. you're going to see stories in the next few days, you know, the pew poll came out yesterday and he was only five points back. maybe after all of this he's
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like the rasputin of american politics, he never gets killed, he keeps coming back, you know, who knows. >> only time will tell, as we know, none of us can write the end of this story, and you should definitely not try to, especially at this point. scottie nell hughes, as i understand it, you have some further information about what is happening and how things are playing out. >> well, on david's point, i think it just shows this whole entire time, from the very beginning, it's all about mr. trump. it's not about who he surrounds himself with that's the winning message. it's actually about him and his reflection on the people and how well his policies resonate. i think today what you're finding out this morning, i think the trump camp is very happy. mr. trump was very much praised manafort after coming out of the campaign conventions. what manafort was able to do at the rnc was incredible. that whip team had things going. there was very little contention especially compared to the democrats. now moving to the final phase, the one issue that has always been said time and time again, why folks could not get involved
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with mr. trump is they didn't like how he actually delivered his message. they liked the message. they liked the content. they just didn't like how he presented it. he brought in two people who are experts. kellyanne conway and steve bannon who people who are experts both in the republican and democrat field. and now we've seen that in the reflection of the speeches today, they're resonating. states like nevada, trump is neck and neck. indiana, he's ahead, a state that mccain lost in 2008. i think this is a great time. this is exactly when you want to start getting your momentum going all the way to election day and having your engagement instead of having folks like they were in 2012 not wanting to have anything to do with elections by the time we got there. >> scottie, you're a little bit of contradiction in what you're saying. you're saying this is not changes at the top. what we're seeing is not a reflection of kellyanne conway being brought in, is not a reflection of someone sitting trump down and saying listen, here's what you need to do, stick to that prompter, talk about the regrets. she says this is the donald
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trump people know in private and this is the man they're putting out. if it was donald trump all along, scottie, why did it take so long? why did it take the third shift for that to come out? >> it's not necessarily that he's changed. it's putting people around you that are willing to be be a part of you and to be able to encourage you to be. the whole phrase has always been let trump be trump. making sure his policies are being put out there. he's never changed his policies. we did see that line last night, which you're right, david, it had a great resonance, but that's how he's always been, he's always been that person, he just didn't necessarily have the messaging to get it out there -- like what we see in louisiana today, he wants to be in the community. he's actually there while barack obama is playing golf. he's actually taking it to the people because as we said last night, when one state hurts, we
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all hurlts. >> that was contradictions. either let trump be trump or that wasn't the real donald trump? which is it, i don't get it. >> no, the same thing all the way -- >> -- a number of times, changing positions, all over the map on everything. first the wall was definite. then maybe that's flexible. then maybe not. maybe just temporary. i mean, he's flip-flopped on so many different things that we don't know, will the real donald trump please stand up, the american people have no idea who the guy is because he is a con artist. >> that is by your definition, tara. >> it's the poll's definition, that's why he's losing. >> the majority of americans are listening and they know exactly where mr. trump -- >> they are? in what poll is that? what majority of american? >> indiana right now, indiana is winning. >> those are red states. >> nevada, he's tied with hillary clinton. >> no, indiana, barack obama won in 2008. >> i want to ask you quickly,
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all the major swing states -- >> ladies, i want to stop you there because we are getting tight on time. david, one last one for you. as we look at donald trump, there's an important thing we have to talk about here. earlier this week, he said, i am who i am. as recently as august 2nd, he said, don't have regrets. now we're hearing different messaging. is there a point that becomes dangerous, david gergen? >> absolutely, because it just seems to be going with the flow, you say whatever is out there, you become more the entertainer than the serious statesman. i do think he's got to be careful about sort of whatever pivot he now makes, this being authentically donald trump, you know, we need to know who is donald trump because we're not quite sure right now. and i think it cannot come from his hand learns, it has to come from him, and i can tell you this, everybody's going to be -- a lot of people are going to be tuning in that first debate. to ask the question which donald
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them. hello, erica. let me tell you, we've been staking out his home here in charlotte, north carolina, in the hopes he would come out, make some statement. he's decided to do that using social media. let me read you a portion of of what ryan lochte has to say. he says, i want to apologize for my behavior last weekend, for not being more careful and c candid in how i described the events and my role in taking the focus away from the many athletes fulfilling their dreams of participating in the olympics. i waited to share these thoughts until it was confirmed that the legal situation was addressed and it was clear that my teammates would be arriving home safely. this actually goes on for some three paragraphs. in part, he talks about how it was very fearful for him to be in a foreign country with a gun pointed at him and then on top of this he says essentially this wouldn't have acted if he had acted more responsibly. so it's an apology that has now been made by the olympic
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athlete. there's of course a lot of focus that's been placed upon him. not to mention a lot of money and sponsorship on the line here. he wants to get it behind him. many people would like to see this behind him, including of course the host country as the olympics continue, erica. >> martin savidge for us this morning outside of ryan lochte's home, as we finally are getting some word from him as he weighs in on the controversy and on the scandal, marty, thank you. i want to get reaction now from a former u.s. olympian, swimmer troy dolby. this may feel familiar to him. he is the young man in the photo we're about to show you, wearing glasses and two gold medals at the 1988 summer games in seoul, south carolina. his remarkable achievement and all the work that went into it quickly overshadowed by an ill conceived prank. he snatched a statute out of a hotel and decide to take it to dinner. police arrested him and a teammate. troy joins us now from phoenix. we want to point out no charges
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were filed. you were subjected to pretty harsh criticism i know at the time. that was after a very public apology. as you're watching all of this unfold, troy, and as you're seeing, and, now, reading the words that we have gotten from ryan lochte, what's your reaction to this story and everything we've seen in the past few days? >> i think it's a step in the right direction for him to have apologized the way he did. i don't necessarily agree with the fact he did it on social media. but i think that it's a first step in helping the athletes that were involved in the incident and in the public in general of putting this behind them. i think it's a shame that so many great things are happening every hour on the hour in rio right now and that we're dedicating time that should be, should be put forward to promoting the athletes that are doing miraculous things in their
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particular endeavors and spending time on something like this, which i don't really feel is nearly as newsworthy as accomplishments that are occurring on the field, in the diving pool, on the wrestling mat, et cetera. >> i think you'd find a number of people who would agree with you on that. you brought up the social media aspect to it. it's amazing how much things have changed in many ways to today, in 2016, and the role social media does play in these stories and how quickly we hear about it and how quickly they stay in the headlines. do you think that's going to work in the favor of or against this story continuing to dominate the news cycle? could it be that thanks to social media in some ways, something else may trump this story and may move it out and we may start to hear or see more of a focus on the achievements?
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>> i think that that's where the focus should be. you have -- as i said before, you have many athletes doing many great things every hour on the hour, as the games wrap up. and i would hope that you'd be able to spend that time focusing on the achievements of the athletes that are doing good, rather than those that stepped out of line and/or misrepresented facts that occurred on an evening of being out too late and drinking too much. >> one of the things that i know many people love, myself included, when it comes around to the olympics are the stories we hear about the athletes and everything it took for them to get to where they are. and oftentimes what's even more amazing on top of that is how young some of these folks are. we put a lot of pressure on professional athletes and expect them to be role models in a
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certain way. as a former olympian, did you feel that same pressure? did you feel sort of the weight of what it meant to be an olympic athlete, especially at the young age of 19? did you understand what came along with that? >> i don't think i had any appreciation for the responsibility that came with being an olympian. i was only 19 years old when i made the team. and i don't think i was prepared psychologically for the responsibility with becoming an olympic champion at that point in time. >> you're a father now as i understand it. >> yes, ma'am. >> you've helped swimmers in the time since. i know it was a rough road for you to get back in the years afterwards. how much though has your experience become a teachable moment not just for your own children but for those swimmers who you helped and coached along the way and what is that message you share with them? >> yes, think before you act
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would be my advice to younger olympians that are attending their first games. i can tell you that the incident that occurred 28 years ago, i wasn't thinking before i acted and i wish i had. it was a great lesson learned. it's something that i have discussed with my children, look forward to further discussing after this afternoon, and i just, i would hope that usa swimming puts forth a greater effort to educate first-time olympians on issues that occur when you're in a country that you're not familiar with, the cultural issues that may arise and the language barriers that can occur. >> i know it may not always be your favorite topic of conversation but you are a really important voice on this and for young athletes so we
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hello, everyone, i'm kate bolduan. john berman is off today. it's not a campaign shake-up. says who? paul manafort. he has just resigned as campaign chairman. days after trump named a new campaign manager and a new controversial campaign ceo. that sure sounds like a shake-up. this also comes as trump looks to be as close to pivoting as we've seen so far. last night saying for the first time in this campaign he regrets some of the things he says.


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