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peres was there from the very beginning. he held every cabinet position, he was prime minister three times but never won an election. >> never got the public love that he was yearning for. he was never hugged by the populous of israel as >> in 1993 peres signed the peace accord which recognized a two-state solution with the palestinians for the first time. a wave of palestinian suicide bombings left him struggling to defend the peace process. >> i know that we are moving in a world full of dangers, but they know, also, this is the best, the only hope upon which we have to move. >> reporter: ultimately, the increase in violence cost him the 1996 election. they turned their backs on him in favor of benjamin netanyahu. >> i'm very grateful for him for
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thinking big dreams and figuring out practical ways to achieve them. >> reporter: he believed in a two-state solution until the very end. >> maybe in the conversation some people will say this and that, but the official position and real desire of israeli and i think that's also the conclusion of the arabs. >> reporter: after nearly 50 years as a member of the knesset he served until his retirement in 2014. when asked how he wanted to be remembered, he didn't mention a life of civil service? >> saved the life of a single child. this will satisfy me more than anything else. >> reporter: condolences pouring in from all over the world. this from president obama. a light has gone out, but the hope he gave us will burn on
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forever. peres was a soldier for israel, for the jewish people, for justice, for peace. for the gift of his friendship and the example of his leadership, todah rabah, shimon. that's how much he meant to other world leaders who saw him as a visionary for peace, a dreamer and a believer in peace between israelis and palestinians and beyond. alisyn and chris? >> thank you very much. very well reported there. i never saw president obama write a condolence letter with the depth and breath of this one. worth your finding it and reading it. let's discuss the life and legacy of shimon peres with christiane amanpour. the depth of service, as well. what do you think he meant to israel and to the peace process?
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>> well, listen, chris, i think that, you know, people will remember him with a smile on their face because he was a pretty amazing person and he will always be linked forever with the word peace. and all the tributes today come from world leaders and ordinary people with that vital word right there front and center. he was also, as you know, started out fairly divisive figure in his political career when he came and he's one of the last of the founding generations, which created the state of israel. he came to what was then palestine as an 11-year-old boy from poland with his parents and then with the first ever israeli prime minister. joined the creation of the state of israel. his great initial service to the state was building up israel's defenses. idf and even prime minister netanyahu he built up the reactor. a very, very strong defense legacy in shimon peres' life, as
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well. he then turned to become a peacemaker. as all complex, fascinating people, they always have these mixed backgrounds. so, i think that what people really understand about him is that he tried to put aside what was the sort of impetus at the beginning and his arab neighbors, first and foremost, the palestinians. when i met him many, many times in washington, london and i was also invited several times to the shimon peres center. i met him the last time and i asked him what he thought his legacy would be and he responded in the typical sort of self deprecating way he could in public. what do you think your
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contribution to history has been? >> that's one of the things i can't understand. i don't know. i'm trying to do my best in my life. but, you know, it came to me as a total surprise. i was sitting in the apec governing and all of a sudden the president stood up and announced and i looked down. what did i do wrong? what is the mistake? i don't have the slightest idea. >> so, self-deprecating in public there. he was known to have a very, very sharp wit, as well. came back with zingers all the time and many people also found him a little bit arrogant and sort of proud. he always wanted to reach out and stretch that hand and quoted many things that i think speak volumes about him. he quoted the greek philosopher saying in war the old buried the young but in peace the young buried the old. if i could make the world a better place for the young, that would be the greatest thing i
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could do. the former prime minister said he understood the importance of negotiation because he understood the cost of war. but because he had lived through many, many years of conflict. so, it wasn't just, you know, sort of pollyannaish. he knew bridging peace in that part of the world is vital. we know it has not been achieved yet. >> let's talk about that moment. that monumental moment at the white house that so many of us remember in september of 1993 when he helped orchestrate the historic handshake that so many people thought would be impossible, but, you know, he believed in, obviously, bridging the divide and reaching out to one's enemies. >> if you see that picture and actually play the video, you'll see it is shimon peres signing the accords there and yasser
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arafat was looking on and along with president clinton they both literally body languaged that hand shake. not a natural thing for prime minister rabin to do after all the history and bad blood between the two sides. that was an incredibly important moment. obviously, oslo was so important because he was the one who persuaded prime minister rabin. they must try peace now after that first intefadeh it lasted until arafat died that the legacy of that has never recovered and no real serious ability to forge peace ever since. >> thank you for sharing all your reporting and memories of him with us. >> thanks. turning now to our other top story, the presidential race. donald trump is back on the campaign trail attacking hillary clinton and claiming victory
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after the first debate. cnn is live in orlando with more. give us the latest, sara. >> good morning, alisyn. after spending a lot of yesterday blaming the debate moderator and blaming his microphone, trump got his groove back when he was campaigning in florida last night. he, of course, declared himself the victor of the debate even though some of his own supporters believed he missed some opportunities and he did admit he could have unloaded a little bit more on hillary clinton. >> for 90 minutes, i watched her very carefully. and i was also holding back. i didn't want to do anything to embarrass her. but i watched her and she was stuck in the past. >> now, even if donald trump did miss some opportunities on that debate stage, it's clear that at least donors felt okay about his performance. in less than 24 hours following the debate, the campaign raised
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$18 million and while cdonald trump was on stage basically came from low-donor dollars. that's not the case. a lot of traditional high-dollar republican fund-raiser and folks from previous campaigns that we saw at trump tower yesterday. >> no question, sara, a big thirst for change. the question is, is trump the right change agent? that proposition dealt a little bit of a blow in that debate by anybody's standard. hillary clinton basking in the glow of her strong debate performance. teaming up with bernie sanders hitting on the controversies marring her rival's debate performance. cnn joe johns live in washington with more. and our understanding is that it's not a gaffe parade, it's that you got to see him and weigh him and measure him and he should have been found lacking, joe. >> that's what the clinton campaign wants voters to think right now. they're projecting an upbeat image. one day after the first debate
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with more help on the way. as you said from bernie sanders to try to get younger voters who just seem as critical motivated for this election. sanders will appear with secretary clinton to stem any further departure of millennials who could be turning to libertarian candidate gary johnson. meanwhile yesterday in raleigh, north carolina, hillary clinton giving every indication that her and her campaign are riding high. listen. >> did anybody see that debate last night? oh, yes. one down, two to go. >> the clinton campaign is also hoping for another day of free media coverage of the miss universe controversy that their candidate loved over the trump campaign at the end of the
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debate this about who was publicly berated by donald trump for gaining weight. hopefully it will serve as a motivater for two important demographics that would be hispanics, as well as women voters. pressing the case with her own media appearance, as well as social media with supporters weighing in along with a noticeable amount of trolling that just promotes her name and the story that has now taken a life of its own. clearly, no accident. planned, calculated attack by the clinton campaign which almost immediately came out with a web video. >> thanks for all of that. joining us to discuss it all errol lewis, cnn politics mark preston and national political reporter for "boston globe" matt visor and clara marie rejoins us. great to have all of you here
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this morning. donald trump decided he won the debate. this is despite polls, legitimate polls that show that's not how the viewers saw it. but he has cited online polls that most news organizations do not use to say that he won. what do you make of this? >> look, in the last six weeks of the campaign, it does no good to sort of give some sort of nuance, neutral opinion to your own troops about you did. the reality is you have to keep the morale going and give people a reason to get up every day and go and fight, especially in the battleground states. it was inevitable that both sides were going to claim victory. it is interesting to see the media get swept along with it. you know, as sort of a protip to our colleagues, they should realize a huge difference between a real poll and a survey where, as we've already seen some reporting on this, people can just kind of get a bunch of their friend and get organized
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and go and vote again and again and again. >> some news organizations are touting it as real. >> trump claims victory and put up all these numbers. >> it seems like pure representation. we'll put the question out on the internet and drives a tons of traffic to their websites. something gratifying about that. cnn is the only one who took the time to do a telephone poll and people don't get the distinction. so, that gives trump a little bit of cover to say, see, the media is against me. here's what he can't get cover from that was evident to everybody who watched that debate. he does not take the tough questions well. he doesn't want them. that's why you won't see him on this show. when he has asked them in the debate form, he struggles. he doubles down on the criticism of the question. has that gotten tired for voters, do you think? >> it's got tired for me. and i think it's gotten tired for a lot of us who practice journalism. but i do think that for some reason that he's getting away with it. i mean, his support is so strong
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right now, it's not eroding from those who are with him. what we will find out perhaps as early as friday morning, perhaps late thursday night, is the fact that really no policy when he was at that debate had that actually hurt them. that's when we'll likely see a new poll that is scientifically done, not something you go on your computer and just keep hitting return, researcturn, re return. i can't imagine he came out of that debate and he was stronger for it. there is no way that could have happened. >> donald trump has his own rationale. he was holding back not to hurt hillary clinton's feelings. watch this. >> for 90 minutes i watched her very carefully and i was also holding back. i didn't want to do anything to embarrass her. but i watched her and she was stuck in the past.
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for 90 minutes on issue after issue. hillary clinton defended the terrible status quo. we while i laid out our plan. >> did he lay out his plan in the debate? >> no. i think some of the best moments for trump was when he was characterizing this as a status quo versus change election. and talking about hillary clinton's decades in washington, decades in policy and not inflicting change. and those moments were few, though. i mean those were at the very beginning of the debate. once it change under to a discussion of whether donald trump is fit to take that change, he sort of lost control. once it became the issue of over his taxes, over iraq war, over his truthfulness or lack thereof, he sort of lost it a little bit and hillary clinton did a much better job, you know, sort of making it about donald trump and putting the debate on her terms instead of trump's. >> he had a tougher task than
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hillary clinton. we know what hillary clinton is. i mean what on purpose, she has weaknesses and flaws and imperfections. he is trying to cast himself as a change agent. but he is not a change agent. he has never been a change agent in any way of public service. he can't show any proof of it. so, he then goes into trying to make that case and can't make the case and coupled with his inability to make criticism. the proof is miss universe situation. no politician with a scintilla of common sense would stay on this. he said stupid things about her that are debasing to women and he gets called out for it. you called her these things, it's wrong. goes right back at it and goes on television just to talk about it and where is the virtue in this except feeding his own need to fight back? >> and i don't know how much of it is personal, always with trump the personal and professional get mixed together.
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>> where is the personal? he said the things he said. she gained a lot of weight, that's the real problem. >> that's the owner at the time of the pageant. this is a commercial dispute for him, which also becomes a personal dispute because his name is on everything. he says she didn't live up to her end of the contract. once that happens, we know what to expect from donald trump. it's all guns blazing and no backing down and no apologizing. even 20 years later, he still wants to go after her. you didn't do what you were supposed to do. you put on weight and it was a real problem for us. on and on and on. it is him being a businessman or his kind of businessman and not being a politician. >> sara, she basically says that when this happened, when she was miss universe 20 years ago and she gained some weight that donald trump publicly humiliated her and called a press conference where he invited reporters to watch her work out because he was forcing her to work out. so she was on anderson cooper's
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show last night. listen to what she had to say. >> he was really aggressive. he was really rude. he was a bad person with me. that is the story i need to share, for me community. we can accept more insults for my latin community. i know very well, mr. trump, and i can see the same person that i met 20 years ago. >> so, this is not going to help with female voters. we can assume, but as errol said, he can't disengage from this fight. >> well, right. i think donald trump really determines how effective of a surrogate alicia machado is for hillary clinton. he's doing a good job ensuring she will not go away to continue
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to talk about her gaining weight. look, this was show business, this is television and this is something i was doing for the cameras and was i insensitive, yes. and i apologize. but he really just took the bait over and over again when it cams to his business practices and that was an area of frustration for some of the supporters and some people doughinanating mones c campaign. but he needs to not get bogged down in these personal battles, but hillary clinton knows how hard it is for him to pass up something like that and he just could not manage to do it on that debate stage. >> last word, marc. >> look, it's a sign of character. he lies, he denies, he goes out and he attacks and he doubles down. these are very important issues and the "arizona republic" who
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never endorsed a democrat over a republican is now endorsing hillary clinton and one of the reasons is because of his temperament and they don't feel he is safe as a commander in chief. >> just one quick qualifier. sara is using words, but he did not take the bait. he is not being baited. things are being presented to him and it's his desire and his mode of how he responds to them. this is no trick. he is no victim. it's important to recognize that. >> panel, thank you very much. we have a quick programming note for you. president obama is going to sit down with jake tapper tonight to discuss challenging facing u.s. veterans and his legacy as commander in chief. join us tonight for a cnn town hall at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific, all right. now, all too common and troubling headline. a black man killed by police. this time in california. but, is it a case of excessive force or justifiable shooting? we have a closer look at the evidence, next.
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we do have some breaking news. another deadly police shooting this time in the suburbs of san diego. the police claiming that this 30-year-old suspect held up an
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object with both hands, both arms and that led police to open fire. cnn's paul is live in el cajon with the breaking details. what have you learned, paul? >> well, alisyn, lots of questions in the air tonight as they try to solve what happened here. this is what we understand from what police tell us the call went out for a man who was acting erratic. he was apparently in traffic and was a danger to himself and motori motorists. by several accounts his sister called police and wanted them to respond as quickly as possible. here's what happened when the sister found out her brother had been shot. >> i just called you for help and, oh, my god, you killed my brother! i call you guys to come and help and you killed my brother. >> now, police say that, basically, the suspect drew a firearm or something that they
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believed was a firearm concealed in the pocket of his pants. he placed both hands on this object and extended them rapidly towards the officers. taking up what they are calling a shooting stance. the police chief later said that they did not find a firearm. the two officers are administrative leave and, of course, all of this led to some protests in the san diego area here in el cajon. hundreds of them people angry and tensions rising and right now very peaceful here. earlier behind me, we saw some people holding hands and quietly mourning and grieving and they are still, obviously, possibly release some key cell phone video later. police say this will prove their point that this man take up again what they can call some sort of shooting stance. back to you, chris. >> thank you very much for the reporting. we'll talk more about this story coming up. more on what the police had to do. another headline, spacex
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time now for five things to know for your new day. israeli and leaders around the world mourning the death of israel former prime minister and nobel loryet shimon peres. he was 93 years old. an unidentified black man shot and killed by police in el cajon, california. the suspect allegedly pointing an object at officer os before they opened fire. police releasing this still frame from cell phone video. they say no weapon was found. donald trump on a campaign swing across the midwest today making stops in illinois, iowa and wisconsin. meanwhile, hillary clinton shares the stage with bernie sanders at an event on a college campus in new hampshire. 18 states teaming up with homeland security ahead of election day tahelp improve cybersecurity. the move comes in the wake of recent suspected breaches blamed
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on russian hackers. elon musk the spacex guy laying out his plan for putting humans on mars. the founder unveiling the company spaceship that carries 100 people to the red planet. travel could begin in 2024. >> any interest? >> for more on the five things to know go to cnnnewday.com for the latest. right now i would take it and pay everything just to get out of this election cycle. christine romans is in our money center with the latest on the wells fargo scandal. what is the latest? >> wells fargo finally holding accountable. forfeit most of his salary this year, including his bonus and 41, $41 million in stock awards. he is keeping his job. headed that unit under scrutiny during those years of that
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culture of upselling and cross selling she is out ahead of her scheduled retirement. she will not receive a severance, but could walk away with $77 million for stock and options for over her tenure there. the company's board said it is launching an independent investigation into the sale practices. the stock is struggling and now at a 2 1/2 year low and a lot of people are asking why is it starting an investigation today? this is a month in the making here and many years of problems there. >> a lot of questions, christine. why does he get to keep his job and why does she get to walk away with $77 million? that's not a consulation prize. that is a huge sum. >> they're going to roll back her pay for the years that were under scrutiny. she spent a long time, she prior had prior years of bonuses and pay and deford that compensation. >> thank you for explaining it to us, christine. great to see you. protests into the night in san diego county over a deadly police shooting of a black man. is this one excessive force or
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anger is building in the san diego area this time over the deadly police shooting of a black man. this time a 30-year-old who friends say suffered a mental bre breakdown. a cell phone video taken by a witness. the suspect did what you see on your screen. took some object out of his pants after being commanded not to do so and see to frame up to fire. and then the police fired first and no gun was found at the scene. the man is dead. let's take a closer look at the situation, what's the right thing to do, what is the wrong thing to do? laura coates and joe a professor at john j. college of professional justice. on the outside, this seems like
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a simpler case. sometimes people will call this suicide by cop. you pull something out and pretend you're in a firing position. you're going to get shot in that situation most of the time, right, joe? >> yes, you are. this is something where it's a little more cut and dry and i think the police department has learned from some of the mistakes we saw in charlotte. trying to get some of this information out there quickly. if you make a movement like that as an armed confrontation, strong likelihood is that the person is going to be shot. >> another way to look at this in terms of what the law has as your background as a prosecutor. what questions come to mind in terms of vetting this as justified or not? >> what happens for every prosecutor, either if it's a civilian shooting or officer-involved shooting. the question is always the same. is the person reasonable to fear as if they had lethal force about to be used against them? a number of factors go into play. that sudden movement, that sudden gesture. but this case a tendency when
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you have police-involved shootings given the climate right now that we have to lump all these cases together and not look at them as a case-by-case, fact-by-fact basis. in this case, you have a shooting, if that particular still footage is genuine and conveys what really happens on the scene, then ask you the spectrum shift back in favor of officer os. but you have to look at more than just that. i have to say as a prosecutor, what else happened? is that true. is it a matter of the perspective is the vantage point clear? does it capture a moment in time that shows the actual shooting or a delay even after that? those are factors you're thinking about. >> even the idea of what you said earlier, this movement. fr he was being very obvious and flagrant and,cop a to this.
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they put out the witness video. they finished a pilot program and they have the money for the body cameras and they didn't do it. seems to be a foot dragging thing here that you explained in the past, well, an old school mentality. is that all it is or is there something here that is resistant to this type of change that should be unacceptable? >> we have to get these body cams out there. we saw in the officer shooting in charlotte. the one officer that did the shooting didn't have one on. it's either all or nothing. we have to start scratching our heads. cameras sitting in the drawer or a closet. >> why do guys not want it? what would be the resistance? >> i think the police departments. i think most police departments want to have them because it would help their cases most of the time. >> if they have the money and doing the pilot programs that we keep seeing again and again that they don't have them or turn them on or say they don't
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function. what does that suggest? >> well, many officer os don't want the idea of big brother watching them because as officers will tell you, a lot of their work is not pretty. it's not for the faint at heart and not for the dainty minded. the idea of what they do on a day-to-day basis is under scrutiny and one reason they don't want to have it. however, it helps an officer, as help as it helps a civilian in deciding what happened in a particular case. it does look more and more suspicious when you have officers who are selectively using them or turning them on or having delayed audio that actually accompanies the video. what it does is put officers who otherwise might be justified or otherwise might not be deserving of skepticism. it puts them in a position to say, listen, i doubt that your motives are pure. and it makes you think that there is anmotive to deceive th public. >> nothing to do with
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justifiable shooting. the family member is obviously distraught screaming in the background. i asked you to come help. if the call that came in was he lost it. i don't know if it is a mental breakdown. a consistency of this same training and response protocols used with mentally ill people as you see with nonmentally ill people. i remember when we were out in ferguson, there was this guy walking around who everybody knew was crazy who was in this store and he pulled a knife on cops and they shot and killed him. do we need to start training differently for people who are mentally ill? >> they should have done it all along. it's something that is a special category that has to be dealt with on a daily basis. so many people in our communities that have mental health issues that the police departments pretty much should have been on the ball with this right from the beginning. new york city going back, if you remember, eleanor bumpers was the case that started it. >> joe, laura, thank you very
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do you hear that? that is the sound of many texans fans going, oh, no. jj watt may be done for the season. i thought the guy was indestructible. what a blow the this team if it's true. >> do you immediately wake up to a sports alert on your phone and just start crying. that was me this morning. jy watt reinjuring his back last thursday against the patriots. he's now going to be placed on injured reserve. he's going to miss a minimum of eight weeks. likely going to be out the rest of the season. watt came back early after surgery in late july to repair a herniated disc. watt has never missed a game in
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his career. tiger woods is a vice captain this year. he's not playing, just there to help. check this out. they kick him out of the team picture, not once, but twice. that picture there only for players, tiger. little awkward but he laughed it off. tiger is planning to play competitively for the first time this year next month. finally during last night's yankees/red sox game a boyfriend got up to propose to his girlfriend in the middle of the fifth inning. he dropped the ring. check out the whole section helping him look for it. this all went down on the big screen, at least for the first part of it. eventual eventually, as you can see, they found the ring. the entire section and everyone around goes crazy. they actually found it in the cuff of his girlfriend's pants. he proposed and she said yes. i bet that five minutes was the longest five minutes of that guy's life when they could not find the ring. >> oh, my gosh. that's horrible. thank goodness somebody spotted
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>> and we're seeing voting rates among aphfrican-americanafricans and young people going up. because every election is about the future and, honestly, it's more about the future of young people and children than it's ever been. >> that was hillary clinton trying to fire up millennials. bernie sanders will join her on
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the trail today in new hampshire. what will he tell his loyal followers to do. let's discuss with former national press secretary for the sanders campaign, simone sanders and she now supports hillary clinton and co-founder of the millennial action project. great to have both of you here with us. let me pull up some numbers of the latest polling about millennials so i can show all the viewers where they are today. this is a quinnipiac poll and it shows since august. from august to september, the millennial support for hillary clinton has dropped. >> 48% to 31%. it has ticked up a tad for donald trump from 46% to 31%. gary johnson is the big beneficiary here and jill stein getting 15% to 11%. why aren't millennials bonding with hillary clinton? >> a lot of millennials are just now tuning in. in the last one to two months that you cited these polls, that
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is when they're just now tuning into this election and not politicos like us that have been in for a year. 46% of millennials identify as independents. they're not necessarily loyal to a party and they don't like what they're seeing in this election. it's not -- a lot of them don't like secretary clinton even though her policies are the best for them. it is really they don't like the system. >> they think she represents the system. >> when you look on television and on the newspapers, a lot of times up until recently what we have heard is that donald trump is a racist and a bigot and bad and hillary clinton is saying i'm better than the other guy. millennials want to vote for something and not against somebody else. that's the message they need to hear. what you have heard secretary clinton and her team do especially over the last four to five weeks is talk about the issues and talking about millennials having families. >> i think we define them to 18 to 34, 35 year olds.
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>> that's an extremely wide range. millennial voters went hard for bernie sanders not just because they loved who he was. a white man from vermont that many didn't know who he was before. >> steven, what do you think the big issues are for millennials? >> i agree we need to be talking about the issues but the big issue we haven't been talking about is how we can fix our political system because the problem is the majority of millennials don't believe politics can solve the problems that we face. we have historic levels of disillusionment. that's why you're seeing this level of distrust for both candidates and i believe that despite secretary clinton having some proposals that are worthwhile on campaign finance reform and how we reform the electoral process, she needs to be emphasizing those more. i wish they came up in the debate, but they didn't. our generation needs to believe in an affirmative economic case but also an affirmative
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political case for us to get involved in this election. >> bernie sanders is going to hit the campaign trail with hillary clinton and yesterday he spoke with our mono. >> i think when people throughout this country, not only younger people understand that she has a proposal, which is going to make public colleges and universities tuition free for all families earning less than $125,000 a year, that is a big deal. and i think when people fully understand the contrast, the difference of opinion between her and trump on climate change where trump thinks climate change is a hoax. >> so, college and climate change. is that how you would define some of their big pritorties, symo symone? >> young people across the board have cited that criminal
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performance are important to them jobs are important to young people. so, those are things that secretary clinton needs to be out there talking about. her millennial team is out there talking about that work and they have to get off college campuses and they're out there doing, i saw some happy hours at the clinton campaign out there doing and because there are folks that are voting that are not on college campuses. >> steve, i know you said they don't like the establishment and you can see that reflected in gary johnson's numbers. is there an understanding that at the moment a vote for gary johnson would help to elect donald trump. the support that they're giving him is being bled from hillary clinton. >> yes. a lot of people are talking about that and understand both, you know, secretary clinton's campaign, in particular, is trying to advance that narrative. but if you look at the polling in a four-way race, governor johnson and jill stein are drawing equally from both donald trump and secretary clinton. and, you know, i'm not endorsing
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governor johnson, but i believe it's important for our generation to vote for people that we believe in and i don't buy into the narrative that a vet for a third party is a vote against secretary clinton because, guess what, the donald trump campaign is saying the same exact thing for their supporters. >> you know, i have to respectfully disagree with steven on the point that gary johnson is representative of what millennials care about. if you look at the republican party platform and libertarian platform and compare it, it is crazy. extremely more progressive and that's the platform that lines up with millennials. >> we'll listen to what bernie sanders has to say on the trail. we're following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> almost every single poll had us winning the debate. >> he made it very clear. he didn't prepare for that debate. >> i did prepare. >> i'm prepared to be president of the united states. >> i was holding

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