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were and style and substance from the first debate. viewers thought hillary clinton was the clear winner by 23 points in the cnn/orc poll. this was a slightly more democratic audience. there are indications in the poll. few minds were changed in this debate. let's get the latest from the site where the smoke is still hanging over washington university in st. louis. manu raju. >> reporter: good morning. trump came here with one goal. after the video released where he made crude comments about groping women. the way he described it was locker room talk. >> this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i apologized to my family and
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the american people. this is locker room talk. i'm embarrassed by it and i hate it. it is locker room talk. it is one of those things. locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i'm a person who has great respect for people and my family and the people of this country. certainly i'm not proud of it. that was something that happened. >> reporter: that's not exactly the message that republican elected officials wanted to hear about the offensive remarks. they wanted donald trump to be more apologetic and show more contrition. he went on the attack and attacked hillary clinton bringing forward three women accused of sexual harassment against bill clinton in the '90s. the question is whether or not the republicans will continue to
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abandon ship or whether he did enough to stabilize his campaign after a combative performance and going after hillary clinton on a number of issues in the contentious debate. >> a remarkable night. >> manu, thank you. let's break this down with the early media team. we have brian stelter and eugene scott. we have john phillips and maria cardona. did donald trump successfully turn the page from friday's disaster in his campaign? did he successfully move on from that last night? >> i think toward the end of the debate, there were people talking about different things than what they were talking about when the debate began which was the leaked videotapes. i don't think that's the end of it. i think there were warning more tapes leaked this week.
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>> you know, there is an 11:00 a.m. conference call with paul ryan. when pressed, he called it locker room banter which grates on many people that republicans have to answer for. when pressed by anderson last night whether or not he acted on that locker room banter. this is what was said. >> just for the record, though, are you saying what you said on that bus 11 years ago you did not actually kiss women without consent or grope women? >> i have great respect for women. nobody has more respect for women. >> for the record you are saying you never did that? >> frankly, you hear these things. i was embarrassed by it. i have tremendous respect for women. i will tell you -- no, i have not. >> so brian stelter think this will turn into a fishing
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expediti expedition. >> there are women who exist who said that already. christoff said that last night. he does keep the story alive. there are other people interested in keeping the story alive. including democratic operatives. it felt like, john and christine, nobody won. obviously the campaign says they won. it felt to me nobody won. viewers were watching this with one eye open. that's distressing. >> i want to ask john phillips. let's listen to what hillary clinton said. how she responded to the friday debacle and what this says about the candidate. listen to hillary clinton. >> what we all saw and heard on friday was donald talking about women. what he thinks about women. what he does to women.
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and he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is, but i think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is. >> john phillips, you support donald trump. this must be a remarkable three or four days for trump supporters. what do you make of the attempt to dismiss it as locker room talk? >> if you expect the full jimmy sw swaggert, you did not get that. i did think the debate was the complete inverse of what we saw the first time around. the first time around, he was much better the first 30 minutes talking about trade and economy. then after that, he got caught up in all of the issues concerning himself. taxes, birtherism.
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he wasn't able to pivot. last night, i thought the first 30 minutes were weaker. i thought he kind of put it in high gear and whenever a subject would come up he did not want to talk about. he would pivot and talk about the e-mails and immigration and talk about trade. talk about things he is well versed in. i thought he did a good job. >> maria, cardona, we will play more sound after the break. to john's point, one thing you hear from analysts today is that hillary clinton didn't deliver a quote/unquote knockout blow. clinton went in staggered and trump played it safe. >> a couple of things, john. i don't think she needed to deal it. if people think he put this
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nauseating tape behind him, they are sadly mistaken. there is more to come and it will not be pretty. a couple of other things from last night. the non apology apology, he doubled down on that. he did not apologize to any women. if you look at the reactions of the undecided voters and in your poll and frankly on twitter and social media, they continue to be disgusted by what he is trying to push aside and under the rug and locker room banter. you even had players from the nfl who know locker room banter saying we have never heard anybody talk this way about women. if they did, it would be wrong. again, i think he did himself no favors with what he desperately needed to do, john. that was add to his appeal and try to bring more voters in to his tent. this was a primary debate for
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him. he was playing patty-cake while hillary clinton was playing chess. >> a lot more to discuss including trump saying he would put hillary clinton in jail and the split decision on the policy and maybe not so sharp answers on e-mail. >> stick with us. donald trump and hillary clinton trading jabs on taxes. are they telling the truth? that's next. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
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back now with the panel to talk about last night's debate. we heard coming in, we heard donald trump threaten to throw hillary clinton in jail or say were he president, he would put her in jail. the context is he would employ a special prosecutor to investigate hillary clinton. listen. >> if i win, i am going to
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instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation because there has never been so many lies and deception. there has never been anything like this. we will have a special prosecutor. when i speak, i go out and speak, the people of this country are furious. >> and eugene scott, to put this in perspective, he said he would throw hillary clinton in jail. i know in the campaign, nothing is shocking or surprising. it is very unusual about a president of the united states to say i'll throw another politician in jail. that's not something that happens in the united states of america. it happens in dictatorships. >> the timing of the statement and jab and tone of it were what were uncomfortable for many view viewers. lawmakers have repeatedly said she should be indicted.
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whether that is a big difference from what others have said, i'm not sure. >> lock her up. >> it reminded me of the snl joke on ""saturday night live." >> let me ask you whether hillary clinton was able to soft earn the deplorables comment. she said half of the donald trump supporters were in the basket of deplorables. then she said maybe it is not half of them. she did not walk away from the deplorable labels. his supporters lashed on to it. listen to how she tried to soften it last night. >> within hours, i said that i was sorry about the way i talked about that because my argument is not with his supporters. it's with him. with the hateful and divisive
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campaign he has run. and the inciting of violence at his rallies. and brutal comments about not just women, but all americans. all kinds of americans. >> you know that deplorables comment and her attempts to soften it was a gift for h her opponent. they have really been able to run with. >> sure, but again, christine, his supporters loved it. what he needs to do in these very last few days of the campaign is to try to grow his tent. i'm glad you played that clip. i thought it was a brilliant answer to something that, you know, his supporters are trying to use against her. what everybody else heard, including independents and women, college educated women who we all have been talking about are the group that he needs to get because, you know, mitt romney won them by 11 points and lost the election. hillary clinton is winning them
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by more than 20. what she did there, i think, was flip it on him. she also opened up what she was talking about her strategy and continued to underscore his manifest unfitness and temperament that he doesn't have to be commander in chief. because what she focused on was his divisive personal attacks on women and on latinos and muslims and the disabled. you name it. we know it by heart. all of the demographics he insulted on day one. it was part of the strategy to continue to focus how unfit he is for the highest office in the land. >> can i disagree with her? i think this hits her where she is vulnerable. it goes to private audiences and
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says one thing. we have seen it in front of other large financial institutions giving speeches and paid a lot money. saying one thing at the rallies. in light of the wikileaks situation, that was a good moment for donald trump and bad moment for her. it shows the difference in strategy between her and her husband who was there last night. bill clinton ran as new democrat. he was trying to get the swing voters. she is running to the left. she is trying to create excitement among members of the obama coalition. they turn out in large numbers and screw everyone else. the fact he pivoted to that subject last night, i thought was good for him. >> guys, don't go anywhere. more to discuss, including what some people thought was the biggest moment of the night when he publicly split with his running mate. and making claims last night that opponent would raise taxes
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on the middle class. listen. >> and indeed the way he talks about his tax cuts would end up raising taxes on middle class families. millions of middle class families. >> we're cutting taxes for the middle class. we are cutting them big league for the middle class. i tell you, hillary clinton is raising your taxes. look at me. she is raising taxes. >> who is telling the truth? let's start with clinton. nearly all of the tax increases would fall in the top 1%. the bottom 95% would see little or no cut. as for donald trump. he would add child care deduction and add the lowest tax bracket from 12% to 10%. those numbers have been crunched by a democratic expert and
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conservative tax foundation. hurricane matthew in the news. no longer hurricane strength, but the danger remains with serious flooding risks. the latest next.
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all right. matthew no longer a hurricane, but the effects still felt in the southeastern united states. flooding is a concern in north carolina. roads and bridges washed away stranding people in their homes. more than 1 million people in the state are without power. let's get more from stephanie
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elam. >> reporter: john and christine, take a look at this behind me. this was the dam here in the neighborhood of fayetteville, north carolina. it was also a road that connected the neighborhood of 200 homes to the rest of the city. as you can see, they not pass that now. very scary times as they only have one other road that connects them to the city. that is also a dam and it looks precarious. what washed out here is now pushing on the other dam. they are already without power and without water. they are trying to figure out what to do. overall, when you look at the effects of hurricane matthew in north carolina, they are huge. they are saying some 400 buildings have been flooded in lumberton and 300 in greenville. when you look at what this has done, you may think it is over. the governor coming out and saying this is going to be a long-term event and they will see flooding on the eastern part
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of the state throughout the rest week. john and christine. >> stephanie, thank you for that. breaking overnight. missile attack launched off a war ship off yemen. the "uss mason" was not damaged. it took place in the southern end of the red sea. the ship was 12 nautical miles offshore in international waters. the missiles were fired from territory in yemen that is controlled by houthi rebels. no one was spared. this one was for the history books. we will tell you all about it next.
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it's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of
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donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> because you'd be in jail. >> a moment in history. a debate that i think will never been forgotten. donald trump and hillary clinton. what a night it was. >> welcome back to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. 30 minutes past the hour. the fury in missouri. the moment when political discourse reached a level never seen before. we are not talk about a high level. donald trump, his campaign staggered after the release of the video where he bragged he could grab women's genitals because he was famous. he went into full attack mode. hillary clinton responded. >> look, it's just not true after so please. >> allow her to respond.
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>> over 33,000? >> we turned over 35,000. >> oh, yeah. what about the other 50,000? >> allow her to respond. she didn't talk when you talked. >> that's true. i didn't. >> because you have nothing to say. >> i will try not to in this debate. i would like to get to the questions that the people brought here tonight to talk to us about. >> and get off this question. >> okay, donald. i know you're in to big diversion tonight. anything to avoid talking about your campaign and the way it is exploding and the way republicans are leaving you. however forceful the attacks and style and substance he may have provided from the first debate. our cnn/orc poll was more democratic audience which could affect that poll. indications in the poll that whatever the fireworks. few minds were changed. for the latest from the debate site. we have manu raju joining us
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live this morning. bring us up to speed, manu. >> reporter: that's right. donald trump came into the debate with one goal. he needed to end that crisis that had been engulfing his campaign since the friday release of the access hollywood tape. what he delivered was a bombastic performance. criticizing hillary clinton for having hate in her heart and threatening to throw her in jail. now when he was asked about the access hollywood tape, he didn't apologize. he actually dismissed it. >> this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i apologized to my family. i apologized to the american people. i'm not proud of it. this is locker room talk. yes, i'm embarrassed by it. i hate it. it's locker room talk.
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it is one of the things. locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i'm a person who has great respect for people and for my family and for the people of this country. certainly i'm not proud of it. that was something that happened. >> reporter: now there were other note able moments at the debate. including donald trump contradicting his running mate mike pence on syria. what the donald trump administration would do on syria was wrong. and hillary clinton is stumbling over leaked transcripts over speeches she had given to banks. was this performance good enough to stable his campaign? >> manu, there is an 11:00 a.m. conference call.
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you cover the hill. what do we expect out of the call? >> reporter: this is a big question. the republican leadership yesterday was in a real dilemma. they were nervous. folks were nervous about supporting donald trump. we have not gotten a sense whether or not paul ryan in particular is going to say he will revoke his endorsement of donald trump. at this point, it seems if you are looking at the reaction from last night, it would be surprising to see paul ryan come out this morning to revoke his endorsement. we don't know yet. we are waiting to hear what the house leadership will do. they want to hear from their members and within message they are sending is if you need to abandon donald trump for your own election, go ahead. one thing, paul ryan said after the first debate and after last night's debate, radio silence
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from the ryan camp. >> manu, thank you. joining us to break down the debate. brian stelter, host of "reliable sources and we have eugene scott and commentators john phillips and maria cardona." good morning. we heard locker room talk. that was the excuse that donald trump used last night. he did more than that, eugene. he went on the attack of bill clinton. he had women accusing bill clinton of impropriety. he brought it up on the debate stage. he went there. listen to what he said. >> if you look at bill clinton, far worse. mine were words. his were actions. what he has done to women, nobody ever in the history of politics in the nation who has been so abusive to women.
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you can say any way you want to say it, but bill clinton was abusive to women. hillary clinton attacked the same women and attacked them viciously. >> eugene, would donald trump go there? he went there and then some. hillary clinton didn't respond. she said she would not talk about that and moved on. >> she did not respond. a lot of people did not expect her to respond. for donald trump to hold her accountable for allegations that have not been proven to be true in a court of law didn't sit well with a lot of voters. a group that donald trump is not doing well with. >> rather than adding fuel to it, she tamped it down. it keeps more pressure on the tape than on bill clinton's past. i know it is easy to be numb, but its was shocking.
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"the washington post" said trump hatched a plan. they wanted to create a moment where bill clinton would be confronted by the women. the idea that was talked about. it shows how low we have sunk in the campaign. >> we set a new bar for everything. >> we keep trying to dig deeper and deeper. >> john phillips. listen to what hillary clinton and how she says he does not have the temperament or ability to be president. listen. >> like everyone else, i spent a lot of time thinking over the last 48 hours about what we heard and saw. you know, with prior republican nominees with president. i disagreed with. they politics, policies, principles. i never questioned their fitness to serve.
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donald trump is different. >> john, did you hear anything last night that would help donald trump with women? with college educated women? the women demographic he so desperately needs to work on? >> well, he showed us donald trump the queens street fighter. the previous debate, he took the bait laid out by hillary clinton and ended up in the has berabb l holes. last night, you could tell where he wanted to take the debate. he is was able to pivot. i think that did him so favors last night. in terms of female voters, look, he has to get republicans back in the tent. what happened in the previous days where you had a bunch of people pull endorsements, including sitting u.s. senators hurts him. it hurts him with republican women who have not come back in the numbers republican men have done. what last night did and
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performance he turned in last night may be able to stop that bleeding and may be able to stop the mass exodus that could have happened this morning of other elected republican officials that could have been a death blow. >> if the bar for success is more members of your own party. more elected officials of your own party -- do you cut and run from the campaign? >> you have to acknowledge when things aren't going well, john. things are not going well. >> that's true. >> a piano also did not fall on his head during the debate. from that sense, it was wildly successful. maria. >> when you are talking about trying to stop republicans from fleeing their own nominee 30 days before the election, you know you are in the deepest hole ever. i'm sorry, but he actually -- donald trump went down the deepest darkest rabbit hole
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there is. we all know, even republicans cringe at that strategy. they know it pushes women more toward hillary clinton. the other thing that happened last night is republicans might think that this stopped the bleeding, but there is still the putrid stench of gangrene going on in the campaign. there is not anything from him being a pervert and sexual predator that admitted to doing and wanting to go into sexual assault. the way that he dismissed it. i think does himself deeper disfavors. it is a misguided thought that this is what he needed to do last night. again, i go back to he
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absolutely -- this was crack for his supporters. he has his supporters. he needs to increase his tent. he needs to increase his appeal. he did nothing to do that last night. >> the other big headline from last night is where are trump and pence on the issues. specifically the issue of syria. are they on the same page. listen to the disagreement, if you will. >> he and i haven't spoken. i disagree. >> you disagree with your running mate? >> this is on syria in particular. on whether we should bomb assad. >> whether or not you should go after the regime with air strikes. pence said yes. donald trump said no. >> eugene scott, what does this tell us about the state of policy inside this ticket? >> one could guess this weekend wasn't spent talking about a lot of policies. specifically regarding international affairs. the reality is i remember hearing that along with i don't
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know much about russia line. i can't remember it verbatim. i remember thinking that his opponents will use this in a clip to demonstrate a lack of awareness and unity between the two leading candidates for the gop. >> pence is still on the ticket this morning. >> when your running mate doesn't leave you. >> that's a low bar right there. >> that is a big victory. guys, stick around. including abraham lincoln's introduction into the campaign. which did it more successfully? that's coming up.
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all right. last night we saw i guess the meanest presidential debate since they came on television 56
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years ago. hillary clinton and donald trump with guns blazing as trump fought to save his endangered campaign. let's bring everybody back. eugene scott and brian stelter and maria cardona and john phillips. >> i saw a tweet where it was signed, i would like to be excluded from the narrative. signed abraham lincoln. >> listen to the moment we're talking about. >> as i recall, that was something i said about abraham lincoln after having seen the wonderful steven spielberg movie "lincoln." it was a master class watching president lincoln get the congress to approve the 13th amendment. it was principled and it was strategic. and i was making the point that it is hard sometimes to get the
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congress to do what you want to do and you have to keep working at it. >> honest abe never lied. that's the difference between abraham lincoln and you. that's a big, big difference. >> you think that was one of her weaker moments? >> it has to do with the wikileaks moment. she told private banks you need a public and private position. she is saying one thing to wall street bankers and the other in public. had that come out in the primary, bernie sanders would have jumped all over it. the other, eugene, i thought donald trump was deft in his response to it. making light. >> i certainly thought as well. it reminded me of the you are no jack kennedy line. it highlighted the fact that hillary clinton does have issues with honesty with voters of the the reality is with fact checks,
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trump's lies are significantly higher. >> thank you for saying that. the fact checking was clear. more misstatements by trump than clinton. more dramatic. he talked about bombs on the floor of the san bernardino apartment where the attack happened last year. there were no bombs on the floor. nobody saw that. muslims in the town did not cover it up. to hear him say he never lied. his nose would be pretty long. >> the other headline is when trump said hillary clinton has hate in her heart. the insults here get deeper by the day. let's listen to that sound bite. >> we have a divided nation because people like her, believe me, she has tremendous hate in her heart. when she said deplorables, she meant it. when she said irreemable.
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she has tremendous hatred. >> john phillips. i have to say this whole election sometimes we report on things so straight. it is almost remarkable how ugly this has gotten. >> that, by the way, is connected in a way to the honest abe remarks. she says one thing to a private fund-raiser and immediately has to walk it back when it becomes public. this hits her with the obama coalition which is with enthusiasm. they feel her voters and supporters feel she is kind of done that to them on a host of issues. i remember on the floor of the senate where she was talking about gay marriage. she had moral and religious objections to it. she was one of the last to the party to come back and reverse herself. a lot of people never believed she had moral and religious beli beliefs to it.
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this is her achilles heel. no doubt. >> maria. >> except she always ends up in the right position. that is actual leadership. in order to get to the right public position, you have to do private negotiating. donald trump was clueless. he was inn ccoherent when he tad about policy. the arc of the republican party is going into the gutter. from lincoln who said four score to ronald reagan who said tear down this wall to trump who said i would like to grab her in her "p." congratulations, john. that's your party. >> all right. i think we will leave it there. guys, thank you for being with us this morning. >> so much to talk about. we'll sneak in business news. why samsung is halting
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matthew is no longer a hurricane, but flooding is a concern in north carolina. roads and bridges washed away. more than 500,000 people without power in the state. the storm is blamed for 17 deaths in four states. breaking overnight. the pentagon confirms the "uss mason" was not damaged, but the attack took place in the southern end of the red sea. u.s. officials say the ship was 12 nautical miles offshore. the missiles were fired from territory in yemen controlled by
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houthi rebels. dow futures pointing higher. wall street sees her as the more predictable candidate. the gains are slim right now. we will watch this. stock markets in europe and asia are mixed. samsung halting production of the galaxy 7 note overnight. stating the replacement of the device with burst into flames. at&t and verizon stopped selling after the complaints and overheating. customers in china and south korea have been reporting issues with the replacement phones. samsung recalled 2.5 million of the devices blaming faulty batteries for causing them to
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ignite. all right. the smoke. the dust. still settling over st. louis after an historic debate. not all history is good, though. "new day" picks up the story right now. >> i'm not proud of it, but this is locker room talk. i hate it, but it is locker room talk. >> we have seen him insult women. >> if you look at bill clinton, far worse. mine are words. his were action. >> everything he just said is absolutely false. >> you think it was fine to delete 33,000 e-mails? i don't think so. >> i would like to get to the question. >> and get off that question. >> and anything you can do to get off this subject. >> this is "new day" with chris
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cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome to "new day." hillary clinton and donald trump trading personal attack s in wht will be remembered as the ugliest debate in history. >> we expected this to be ugly, and yet it was still disappointing. trump pacing the stage and ignoring questions as anything but opportunities to attack the clintons. actually saying clinton is the one with tremendous hate in her heart. he also threatened to jail her if he is elected. 29 days until election day. we have all the highlights covered for you. let's start with manu raju in st. louis. >> reporter: good morning, chris. both candidates came on stage and refused to shake each other hands which is custom. the insults began. when donald trump was asked
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about the 2005 access hollywood video that has blown up his campaign, he offered an apology, but also dismissed it. >> donald trump entered the debate with one major goal. to end the crisis engulfing his campaign. after a tape of his remarks about globing women from 2005 was uncovered. >> this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i apologize to my family. i apologize to the american people. >> reporter: cnn's anderson cooper pressing donald trump over his comments about forcing himself on women. trump denying he ever actually did that. >> i have great respect for women. nobody has more respect for women. >> are you saying you did that? >> you hear these things are said. i was embarrassed by it, but i have tremendous respect for wome

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