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that does it for us. we want to thank you for watching, all the students at unlv. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. well, what happens in vegase the course of the election in the final presidential election, is tomorrow. preparing for the debate that could ultimately decide this election, this is our brand-new poll of polls. hillary clinton leading by 8 points nationally. as trump, campaigning in colorado, lobs some of his favor race charges tonight. >> the media, you have to remember, is an extension of the
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hillary clinton campaign. it's an extension. and without that, she would be nowhere. the press has created a rigged system and poisoned the minds of the voters. >> trump's repeated charges that system is, in his records, rigged, drawing some pretty harsh criticism from president barack obama, in a news conference in the white house rose garden. >> the notion somehow mr. trump loses florida, it's because of those people that you have to watch out for, that is both irresponsible and by the way doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you'd want out of a president. you start whining before the game's even over. if whenever things are going
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badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else. you don't have what it take business to in this job, because there are a lot of times when things don't go our way or my way. that's okay. you fight through it. you work through it. you try to accomplish your goals. i'd advise mr. trump to quit whining and make his case to get votes. >> gloria borger and mark preston, good evening. >> maybe the president will really say how he feels about donald trump. but welcome from las vegas. thank you so much, gloria. the debate is less than 24 hours away. donald trump is still talking about this rigged election. i want you to listen to him a short while ago at a rally in colorado. >> they even want to try and rig the election at the polling booths where so many cities are corrupt and vote are fraud is all too common and they say there's no voter fraud in our
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country. no, no, there's no voter fraud. take a look at st. louis, take a look at philadelphia, take a look at chicago. >> so gloria, he seems to be lumping -- first he said there is widespread voter fraud and critics are saying there is no voter fraud, but there's no evidence of wide scale voter fraud is the truth of it. it's just not true. why is he continuing to push this story and as the president is saying he's crying before he even finishes the game? >> well, you know, the rig the election has two-parts. first part is the media, which he says the media supports hillary clinton so it's rigged that way. the second part is this notion of voter fraud. and what he's trying to do politically by saying all of this is that he's trying to rally his base, don. he's trying to get them so angry and agitated about a possibility
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that the election might be rigged, they'll get out there and vote and be more enthusiastic out there voting. the clinton believe they are suppressing their turnout because their voters will be so sick and tired of this election maybe they won't show up or they'll think hillary clinton's going to win they don't really have to vote so they worry -- they worry about this on a larger level, of course. the question is, voting is the foundation of our democracy and it seems to be very odd closing argument to me to make about a rigged election before you have the election. >> if -- if he's saying it's already set and it's rigged, doesn't he stand the possibility of suppressing his own voters to say, it's not worth me going to the polls? >> no, i mean he's been saying to them, get out there and vote, be careful at your voting
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stations, watch what goes on when you vote, and i think, no, he's trying to rally the base and energize the base to get out there. >> mark preston what do you think? >> i also think he's setting up a scenario if he's going to lose he has a scapegoat if he's going to lose. gloria is absolutely right. he's trying to rally his supporters, there's no question about that, and we've seen -- like sheriff clark out in milwaukee, don, talk about that, as well, saying you need to go out, you need to vote. but the bottom line is, this is a very explosive thing he's doing and it's very dangerous, quite frankly. we're supposed to be the leader of the free world and the democracy, and we're supposed to be spreading democracy and he's telling lies there is this widespread voter fraud here, that doesn't necessarily look good on the united states as a super power quite frankly, and listen i think that in some ways, it could get some of his supporters so riled up after the
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election, there is some concern, we've seen republican lawmakers try to back him off of it because there is some concern if he does lose, he would try to delegit myself t delegitemize the win of hillary clinton, and that's a problem. >> i was talking to a congressman who said if this election was going to be delegitimized, my congressional race is legitimate or i or illlegitimate. but the other thing is, let's take the state of ohio. what happens if rob portman wins ohio and donald trump doesn't? or vice versversa? which is legitimate, which issil legitimate? >> he's tausing some large citi with high african-american populations to see you should watch there, for chicago, he's got st. louis, he's got philadelphia, all of these cities with high african-american population and
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they're highly democratic. what's going on here? what's he trying to say with this? isn't the irony about illinois is he's not going to win illinois and when he's talking about chicago, he's talking about the 1960s and kennedys win and there was some kind of fraud back then in order to get jfk the presidency and did his father do it. so, the idea that he's going to chicago, harkens back to a time most voters in the election have any understanding of it. when he talks about philadelphia, he's trying to reach back to the point where we saw the new black panthers come out and supposedly tray to intimidate voters at a voting location, however, those voters they were try to be intimidate turned out to be a falsehood, it wasn't a true moment. listen, he's doing it -- he has his raeeasons but for him to in with the election he's got to talk about ideas and how to governor. he's got to talk about how he's going to be the leader of the free world and stop talking about this, because while it
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might get some of his voters riled up and get them out to vote, he also needs to win the medal and this doesn't help you win the medal. >> it doesn't have a sense of desperation to it. this is the poll -- surprising state poll numbers. texas, university of houston finds trump is 41%, clinton, 38%, just three points ahead. no republican candidate has lost texas by less than 11 points since 2000. could hillary clinton actually win texas, gloria? >> i don't think so. it would have to be -- it would have to be such a landslide it. seems unlikely. that is a lot closer than i would honestly think, but it's not ted cruz is now endorsing donald trump, but he wasn't always enthusiastic about donald trump and former governor perry has endorsed him, so it's highly unlikely he's going to win
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texas, but this gives you some indication of what's going on in the rest of the country, which -- which is that you see these battleground state polls. >> let me put this up -- there's another poll -- >> hillary clinton pulling away. >> nevada, and wisconsin she's up by 8. donald trump has to stop the bleeding to gloria's point, mark. >> and also, quite frankly, look at the state of utah, which there's no way that should be on the board and quite frankly it is on the board now. in the end will he pull it out? probably, but the fact he has to play defense in the state such as texas, and we'll see how much defense he actually does play, a state like utah, in arizona, where hillary clinton has put bernie sanders, chelsea clinton and michelle obama in, that's another state democratic shouldn't win and he should play defense there. he needs to win pennsylvania, he needs to win ohio, florida. when you need to win all these big states you can't be playing defense at this point.
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that would be like hillary clinton having to play defense in massachusetts, which is just absurd. >> there needs to be -- if donald trump is going to win and he could win, there has to be a structural change. some has to happen that could shake up this race dramatically. it could happen. i don't know what that would be, but that's what we're looking at. the danger here for the hillary clinton people that i talked to is there sort of not so fast because we don't want our voters to stay home. we need to get our voters as enthusiastic as the donald trump voters are. and her enthusiasm numbers becoming up. >> i've got to run, but inquiring minds want to know are they going to shake hands tomorrow? >> well, it isn't going to be a bear hug. >> there won't be an embrace, although they did shake hands at the end of the debate. >> they did? >> yeah, at the end. >> we'll see what happens in the leading up to the debate. last time it was pretty tense, if you'll recall, so we'll see
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if there are any events preceding the events tomorrow. >> thank you. when we come back, a democratic operative resigns and another is fired and an undercover video shows they hired people to insight violence at trump rallies. we'll dig into that story coming up. " ...and high levels of humiliation in her daughter. in just 7 days, your joint comfort can be your kid's discomfort. osteo bi-flex. made to move. theno one surface...out there. no one speed... no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all, the mercedes-benz c-class. five driving modes let you customize the steering, shift points, and suspension to fit the mood you're in... and the road you're on. the 2016 c-class. lease the c300 for $369 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer.
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a vote for democrats tonight as operative, their organization was helping hillary clinton's resign and another is fired, that's after an edited video suggests people were hired to insight violence at donald trump's rallies. drew griffin joins me with more. tell us about this story. what happened? >> these videos were first released by a man named james o'keefe. he's been widely discredited known for editing video if it is conservative narrative, but as a result of what's on the tapes that he released two men working for democracy partners, working on behalf of the clinton campaign, had been relieved of duties, or stepping back on the clinton campaign. let's show you why. it's on the video, is what they said.
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this is one release accidentd - named scott, seen and heard discussing his hiring of people to attend trump rallies for the purpose of starting fights. >> "and he honestly, it is not hard to get some of these asholes to pop off. it's a matter of showing up to want to get into the rally, in a planned parenthood t-shirt or you know -- trump is a nazi, you know, you could -- you could message to draw them out and draw them to punch you." >> we all remember these violent altercations at some of these rallies, so is that what we're talking about here? >> yeah, keep in mind that there is no evidence that anything he said on the tape actually happened but on the tape he cites specific examples where there were events where there was trouble, las vegas, a rally in north carolina, an event in wisconsin, where he says he
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worked to insight either violence or get some public reaction from republican officials. >> where is he now? >> we can't find him. he no longer works for deckockeradecmocracy partners. he was relieved of duty and bob crimy, w kram kramer, one of the partners announced he's no longer going to be working on the clinton campaign either. >> these guys were working on the clinton campaign? >> they were working with the client, not for. democracy partners were working on behalf of the clinton campaign. i talked to kramer today. he said we worked for the clinton campaign in that we were working on various strategies, but technically we were not staffers for them. you should also know bob kramer, his wife is a democratic chicago congresswoman jan shekowsky. he described what's being said
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is bar room talk and he said with respect to scott foval, his comments on tape, they are flat out wrong and we've gone to extreme measures to make sure no violent took place at any of our counter protest events and for its parts the dnc is distancing themselves from the whole thing and no evidence anything on this tape actually occurred. they did agree with bob kramer he should separate from the campaign and they're going to investigate they say james o'keefe to see if he did anything illegal in gathering these tapes. >> it says bar room talk. that sounds very room to what we've been talking about and he's been getting so much criticism for. >> that's absolutely right. is this bar room talk where you're talking about insurance s instigating violence. that is what he called it. >> it is politics, but it is awful. thank you. here to discuss, sally cone
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is here, also, bob kusack, editor of the hill, and author of a woman in charge, the life of hillary rodham clinton. the clinton campaigned moved to distance themselves from these operative. do you think there's something to these allegations? >> no, i think that we've all learned and if nothing else, donald trump has shown us that video speaks louder than anything. not only editing videos, to prove his point, but actually illegally obtaining and editing and falsely manipulate ago. >> and falsely saying that's what they're -- that's what they were hired do or that's what they were hired do is be disruptive at these campaigns. >> the second video looks highly edited and manipulated video. there is a pattern -- a documented pattern. listen, i want to know the truth as much as anyone.
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honestly, and this is my side these allegations are true, i want to know them more than anything else should but i happenton ja happen to know james o'keefe edits stuff in a way. these are folks i've done work with, i know bob kramer. that does not reflect that organization and that side of the work and he's not there anymore, so -- >> they're on tape admitting that. you're saying that it could be -- it's edited. >> this is an interesting moment. you have trump on tape, and he's denying it and you have women coming out that allegations are true. >> i will to bring in carl. carl, it feels like the dnc shot itself in the foot if this is actually drew. >> we need to know a lot more about this and whether these are
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rogue operators who brought this upon themselves, or whether someone in a higher position at the dnc which seems very unlikely to me ordered them or knew they were doing this kind of thing. let me say one thing about hillary clinton about whom i've been quite critical as you know in this campaign about many things. she nor john podesta, her campaign manager, has any kinds of beliefs in these dirty tricks. hillary clinton worked on the house judi gueciary committee investigating watergate. she knows how lethal a charge like this is. she doesn't believe in it, and at the same time, we need to get to the bottom of this and if there needs to be a grand jury investigation about both the video of it and the players and what they did, let there be a grand jury investigation but we need to get to the bottom of it
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and be very kashl about facts and casting a spespergions. >> the clinton campaign did try to distance themselves from the story, but is the damage already done? >> this is a damning tape, there's no doubt about it, i definitely agree with carl there should be some investigations. i think congress should investigate this. what was going on, also foggel was talking about voter fraud and getting rent a cars for voters in other states and moving them around. what about that. is that real? was he just talking? certainly the video -- and it's a long video certainly on foggel, is convincing in that they were doing some dirty tricks and it should be investigated. >> look, first of all, this is standard operating procedure. let's not forget. again, that the videotapes only show certainly things and if we're going to judge it, then we should get the entire videotape. that seems obvious to me. what are the questions that are asked? are they asked in leading ways that were hypothetical?
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we need to know these things. number one. number two, james o'keefe made his own video where he tried to go in and commit voter fraud and the irony is at the end of the day he couldn't do it. he didn't do it and it just goes to prove it is still very, virrare. >> there's another story that's bubbling out there. we'll talk about that, i'll let bob finish and donald trump says this other story is bigger than watergate as it occurrence the clinton campaign. we'll be right back. lthcare, seconds can mean the difference between life and death. for partners in health, time is life. we have 18,000 people around the world. the microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected and work together in real time to help those that need it. the ability to collaborate changes how we work. what we do together changes how we live.
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. the clinton campaign wikileak hacks just keep on coming giving donald trump even more faoder for tomorrow night' debate. you were making your point, bob, go ahead. >> i think there has been some fair criticism editing some video, but it was very damning, and listen, one person was fired, another resigned. that does not look like everything was innocent here and that's why i think this timing -- and it's not coincidence that it was released on the eve of the debate. it helps trump. >> and as carl said -- >> it's very important to make sure that so far we see no evidence of this connected to the clinton campaign itself at the level of clinton campaign headquarters but does need a thorough investigation. there's new scandal that comes on top of another big controversy around hillary clinton. yesterday, we learned a state
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department official patrick kennedy may have asked the defense department for declassifying a clinton e-mail possibly in exchange for a concession from the state department on another issue. the trump campaign was quick to jump on the report and he's what donald trump said today. >> the fbi documents show that patrick kennedy made the request for all altering classcasiifica as part of a quid pro quo. this is many times worse than watergate. and we're going to put an end to it come november 8th. >> so if i had to take a guess, i would say that carl bernstein might know a thing or two about watergate and my question would be is this scandal worse than waterga watergate, carl? >> no, absolutely not. watergate was about a criminal president of the united states who presided over a criminal
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presidency from the time he arrived in the oral office unva until he had to leave. the criminality, regarding her server has been reckless, irresponsible, you've heard her talk about it on air for many months now, and this just fits in with a pat nurse which it seems it's possible that a bureaucrat, a very high-level foreign service officer was used perhaps to try and get an altered classification that would have served the clinton campaign's narrative about the server. everything that's happened about the server has pretty much been a travesty, and it's important to look at hillary clinton's record over 30 years in public life, it's -- the server is a big block, the worst probably in those 30 years against her, and at the same time, it pails in comparison to watergate and
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also, i think it pails in comparison to the record of donald trump and what we've heard from him in this campaign and what we learned about the way he operates his businesses, the kind of person he is, et cetera. this is not a good thing to have l happened. >> all right, carl. richard nixon was caught on tape and he was saying it was worse than watergate. richard nixon trying to shut down the investigations. here he is not oval office in 1972. >> so that is a so-called smoking gun moment. does hillary clinton e-mail story have a smoking gun moment, carl? >> not in terms of criminality like that, and also, watergate was not just about the cover up. it was about nixon ordering
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breakins, and nixon ordering fire bombings of a think tank. it was about misuse of the irs and government agencies. it was about indemnityic criminy in the oval office. what hillary clinton did was reckless, irresponsible, endangered the national security. she has apologized, perhaps not enough -- >> i'm getting a lot of facial expressions and huffing here. >> listen, i don't disagree with anything that carl bernstein has said, but we've said this so many times. i mean, she has apologized. we are still talk about the e-mail server. it was reckless. >> she's apologized for it. >> right. that to me is kind of covered terrain here and not only is there no smoking gun, there's not even a smouldering damp water pistol. >> are you saying republicans are desperate?
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>> to be kmcomisurate, threateng our democracy level. >> is this the way things work in washington? is this -- >> look, you know, i've never worked in government, so i don't know from folks i've talked with it's not unusual to have inner agency conversations about raising or lowering and they disagree about the security clearance. the quid pro quo piece, there's no evidence that was being investigated from the state department or from the fbi. it still is from hillary clinton. this is just digging to try and find something so we aren't always on the media focused on everything trump. >> is this business as usual in washington? >> i think they're showing a side of washington people don't like and i don't think trump should mention this patrick kennedy. nobody knows who he is and the classification dwats. wh one of hillary clinton's
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staffers told the fbi he took a hamto hammer to one of her mobile devices and asked for 13 or 14 devices that her law firm was unable to give any of that, so i think that's what's upsetting voters now, and certainly both candidates have major shortcomings, it's just who can exploit them tomorrow night will be the winner of the debate. >> bob, this particular story, when you read it, it is convoluted. it makes most voters eyes glaze over. you don't think it's watergate? >> no, it's not. eyes glazing over, they don't understand it, another e-mail thing. >> thank you-all. i appreciate it. hillary clinton's special guest at the final presidential debate, someone who has some history with donald trump, wait until you hear who it is.
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the final presidential debate in las vegas, live pictures from unlv, hillary clinton announcing one of her guests will be the outspoken billionaire owner mr. mark cuban and he joins us by phone. good evening, sir, how are you? >> i'm great sir, how are you? >> i'm doing great, thank you very much. just by being there do you think you're going to throw donald trump off? >> no, of course not, but you know it will at least get him thinking and get the people around him thinking and i think since we already know kind of the way he's going to approach the debate, same as the last two, i think you know getting the folks around him thinking and trying to get them talking to them, i think can have even more of an impact. >> this is just in. maggie haberman is reporting, you know the meet and greet where the families come out with
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the clintons and the trumps, the clinton campaign is saying that you know they don't want that to happen because they're afraid of stunts happening. do you think that's a good move? >> i don't know. they have to make their own decision. i'm not going to try to over dram dram aticize something like that. they'll be enough fireworks hopefully stuff like that will be forgotten quickly. >> mark, let's talk about the polls. a lot of her supporters were disappointed. they wanted a knock-out punch. before we get to the polls do you think that's going to happen tomorrow? >> no, he's not the guy you can knock out, simply because there's some guys that are knocked out, they're out of business, they're unconscious and they just don't know it and that's donald trump. you know, he'll keep on getting up, he just won't know where he is. you're not going to knock him out, but i think she got the results she needed after the first debate. the second debate there were more self-inflicted wounds and
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the third is we'll see more self-inflicted wounds and her job is to bob and weave and let him punch himself in the state. >> when you look at texas now, which is close by a couple points, i don't know if anyone seriously thinks hillary clinton will win texas, but in other battleground states in nevada, and wisconsin, do you think donald trump can make up enough grou groundal that deal wi ground at that debate to make a difference? >> i don't think it will have the slightest impact on the battleground states. the only way that trump wents is if it's ve wins is if his believers come out in far greater numbers than anybody expected because it won't happen because of his ground game, that's nonexistent. it won't happen because of any organization, that's nonexistent. it's going to have to be very org organic and unexpected otherwise we've got no chance. >> what do you think about the
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whole strategy of bringing up bill clinton and do you think that's going to be a part of the debate especially considering now again that tape is -- that last -- the tape was out there for the last debate, but there are these women coming forward now, do you think that's going to be part of his strategy? >> what for donald to bring up some of -- bill clinton's performe performers? i don't think he'll play that card. obviously it's going to be an issue and the real question sell any other new names or victims pop up before tomorrow night. >> do you know him -- right? do you -- >> we're not best friends but we're more than acquaintances, i would say. >> you have ever heard of anything like these women coming forward or him being untoward -- >> yes. >> you why? >> yes and i know one, and it just didn't happen recently. my friend reminded me and it was from 2000 and she -- you know, i
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don't expect her to come forward. i wouldn't recommend she come forward. i know somebody else from two years ago that won't come forward. so, you know, it's not anything that caught me by surprise. >> so again there is you saying this is not cnn's reporting but tell us what you can since you know him. >> that's what i can tell you. i can tell you -- my friend that was dating this one woman, you know, just reminded me the story they told me right after it happened and put it all down in detail and obviously i remembered it and then i had another person who contacted me after the rate started and told me a story. i don't want to go in since it's all second and thirdhand other than to say it's factually true. i don't have any doubts we're true. >> you're a very wealthy man and i'm not sure if you saw the interview with anderson and melania trump, women basically throw herself in front of him because of money. you're a billionaire yourself.
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do you see this as being politically motivated? -- or motivated by money? >> yeah, i mean the word "gold digger" is there for a reason and that's gender neutral. i've seen wealthy women who have been attracted, who have men attracted to them. so i think -- who knows, right? i'd like to think they were attracted to me. but who knows, and so -- yeah, i really couldn't speak to that. >> yeah, so let's get back now to the debate. do you think -- >> uh-huh. >> i think what the common wisdom is, is that she's running out the clock and her supporters would like her to be more aggressive maybe than last time. do you think she should play it safe? >> she definitely should play it safe. it's smart to get to know your opponent, right? if you have an opponent in basketball that likes to shoot the ball in his own basket and self-inflect wounds you get out
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of the way. if you have a guy who is in a race and he's wearing himself out, you just let them wear themselves out and you understand your own strategy and your own game and you stick to it. the last thing you need to do is jump into the middle of something and make a mistake. the one thing he hasn't demonstrated is the ability to control a conversation, present issues that give him an advantage with undecided voters. that's just no who he is. he's a counter puncture as he said and he likes to throw haymakers, as well and he's out of the three stooges, and i would just get out of the way and let him hurt himself. >> two quick things, one, do you think the brothers sitting in the audience will make a difference? >> president obama's half brother being invited by donald trump? >> i don't thinking it make a difference at all. there's reason why she prepares and it's obvious he doesn't. the idea is you practice until you can't get it wrong, and
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that's something i preach with everybody who works for me, anybody who is in athletics, practice until you get it wrong so there's nothing that catches you off guard. she obviously has been through that. he obviously has not. he makes the same mistakes over, and over, and over, so having the half brother -- having any third-party -- she's concentrating so hard. >> i want to and you about the whole rigged system. donald trump has been talking about a rigged election saying the media and clinton campaign are working together to steal the election. what do you make of that? >> that's him being used and played by steve bannon and that group. i think steve bannon's a whole lot smarter than donald trump and it plays right to the breitbart narrative, which will pay off huge dividends for brigeitbart down the road. it's destroying his brand, and whatever the issue, convincing voters to vote him president. i think the beneficiaries are
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both donald trump and hillary clinton have arrived in las vegas where they'll go head-to-head in their final debate in a few hours but there will be no family handshake. also, already arrived in las vegas is andy dean, former president of trump productions. van jones is there, too, former obama administration official, trump supporter, scottie nell hughes is in the house in vegas, and clinton supporter bakari sellers, as well. i already know this is going to be interesting. so welcome let's hope what happens in vegas doesn't stay in vegas because you need you to vo report the truth. van jones i'll start with you. is hillary clinton capable of delivering a knock-out punch or is it more important to not make a make a mistake and play it cool as was told by mark cuban?
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>> look, she's got some challenges tomorrow she hasn't had to face before. she's always had difficulty dealing with this e-mail issue, even when it was much more simple. she bobbles this every time. this time we'll have a donald trump newly emboldened, and she's got to be able to nail some of these answers and so she could take on a little bit of damage. he's on a glide path to defeat, but she has got to figure out some way to answer these questions and reassure some voters who feel her answers and her performance in this area is cause for concern. >> that's the big weak spot do you think right now coming up in this debate? >> yeah, absolutely. everything else is perfectly fine. you have donald trump saying he basically doesn't have confidence in the american system and somehow the media has been mean to him, though the
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media made him for most of the campaign, the entire campaign has been rigged. he's being a big cry baby. he doesn't look presidential. the one thing he's got going for him are there are increasi increasing banana peels. >> scottie, the scientific numbers show hillary clinton won the debate. what does hillary clinton need to do to turn things around? she won both debates according to scientific polls. >> we can debate over the second one, but i'll give you the first one. all donald trump needs to do is when she comes at him with allegations, he needs to answer with facts. he needs to make this to be truly a policy and defining himself as being not the washington establishment, which is what she has built or campaign on how great her experience is. he needs to say here's your track record, here's how i'm going to be different. the one thing we all can agree on as americans is nobody really
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likes washington, d.c. they think it's a cesspool of filth and corruption. the more he reminds people this is what's gotten us into the mess, the better he'll raesinat with the american people. >> she's been off the campaign trail. is that hurting her when you have wikileaks releasing all of these hacked campaign e-mails? >> some would say she should have been answering questions out there, and not the first time she has so answer the questions at wikileaks, et cetera. hillary clinton is a skilled debater. this isn't the first, second or third time she's been on the stage one-on-one with someone who is of equal, or in this case of lesser debate skills. she's debated barack obama. she's debated bernie sanders, so she's been through this and her prep has been amazing. tomorrow night is going to be something -- i'm somebody who wants her to debate more like she did in the first debate,
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when she was very aggressive, not as much in the second debate. i expect her tomorrow night to -- i saldwould say more like floyd mayweather, counter punching tomorrow night, the fact is tomorrow night, going into tomorrow night, she has a better chance of winning arizona and texas right now than donald trump has of winning virginia, colorado, and pennsylvania. so she's in the driver's seat right now. the question is, how -- does she come out damaged tomorrow at all, or can she pull off another victory and go 3-0 and pull off the sweep? >> andy dean, donald trump says he's now unshackled. what will that look like on the debate stage? you've got bakari talking about price fighting, giving analogies. and this is the greatest show on earth. this is lag vs vegas and he's g nothing to lose. >> he won the second debate. the first 20 minutes he looked stellar, and lester holt shifted
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to birtherism and taxes. i thought he was well researched and hit hillary clinton very hard. >> and even her own supporters -- >> what's that? >> even the surrogates are saying they wished she would done things differently. >> i don't like these surrogates, don. >> all the scientific polls say she won both debates. >> no, don, no only the cnn polls. >> stop with the science facts. who cares. >> go on, andy. >> yeah, i was going to say, what i think trump may bring up tomorrow night, and he fo foreshadowed it today in a colorado rally. if you're not next to billy bush, it's not big news and what it was is a 28th amendment and it's a curve on big government power and he's calling for term limits for members of congress and this is the first time in american history that a presidential nominee of major party has called on term limits
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for members of congress and this could be done we know -- our founding fathers understood there's the national way of constitutional amendments and the state way -- >> do you know why that's not news? because no one cares about that. >> i disagree. the american people do -- that's something republicans and democrats, 75% -- that issue goes very well -- most people believe that our government is too big and needs term limits. >> i know we have to go. everyone is saying -- everyone has said i wish they would stick to the issues, the issue on the bus it's not what the american people are interested in and now if you're going to say stick to the issues, your you throwing something else -- this is las vegas. this is not louisiana. you don't throw stuff in the gumbo when it's not time. >> this is all in the recurring theme the government has gone too large and hillary clinton run some large sind-kent.
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>> she's going to pay these people back with government access. >> this has been settled by a supreme court, and donald trump doesn't have a 28th amendment issue. women are going to beat him. boom. on a rack. but the specialists at ford like to show off their strengths: 13 name brands. all backed by our low price tire guarantee. yeah, we're strong when it comes to tires. right now during the big tire event, get a $140 rebate by mail on four select tires. ♪
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