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welcome to cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me precisely two weeks until presidential election day. both candidates are focused on the very same goal today -- the ever-critical battleground state of florida. a state donald trump called a must-win for him. in just a couple minutes, you will see donald trump and hillary clinton speaking there live and we very well may find
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hillary clinton on the defensive despite her solid lead in the polls, including a new one from cnn. clinton has tightly linked herself with president obama and there's this new government report out today that essentially says the premiums for the president's signature health care plan are to soar next year by an average of 22% for the benchmark silver plan, 22%, that's the average some states are much higher than that. donald trump, he is seizing on this today. >> but obamacare is just blowing up and even the white house, our president, announced 25% or 26%. that number is so wrong, that is such a phony number. you're talking about 60%, 70%, 80% in increases. obamacare has to be repealed and replaced and it has to be replaced with something much less expensive for the people. >> let's go to sunlen serfaty in
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washington on the news of the rise of the premiums. it puts pressure on president obama. >> hillary clinton has not responded to the new report. we suspect at some point she'll have to face questions over this. put simply, without a doubt, this is not the headline hillary clinton or down-ballot wants to face. it hands republicans fodder for their arguments against the law, against democrats and we've seen that reflected on the campaign trail today as you mentioned, now, hillary clinton in the past as said there that there are some fixes that she believes need to be made but the repeal and replace as republicans want is the wrong way to go but, yes, there are tweaks that need to be made and it was the second town hall debate where she faced a questioner who was complaining about the cost of premium increase and she said yes,
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premiums have gotten too high, she said i'm going to fix it because i agree with you. i think when we hear from hillary clinton, we'll hear a similar refrain. we've heard a bit from democrats about that. debbie wasserman schultz saying on cnn "we'll sit down and iron out the kinks." no doubt, having to switch into defensive posture, two weeks to election day, not the position hillary clinton wants to be in. >> it could work to republicans' advantage. we're seeing others trumpet it, ayotte in new hampshire cutting an ad on his increases. we'll talk about the politics of this, let's take a closer look at the obamacare rate hike, taking a look at federal health exchanges only. federal exchanges only. not including those run by individual states. the average obamacare premium is going up by 25% for the next year, compare that to 7.2% from 2016, let's go to alison kosik
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who's been working through the numbers and explaining it to the people. why is it going up next year? >> so it sort of all begins with the risk pool. when obamacare was passed, when the affordable care act was passed it was belief it had younger healthier people would sign up but what's happening is that's not happening. you have sicker people signing up and that's draining the money, or the pool that's there so you have fewer young healthy enrollees who aren't signing up. they're opting to just take the penalty on their tax return they figure "i'll take my chances, i woen won't get sick." insurers have priced their plans too low so they're trying to make up for the gap in revenue so you're seeing these spikes in premiums. here's the interesting thing. i went to arizona last month to
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look into people being affected in positive and negative ways from obamacare and one woman i talked with said, look, i don't think obamacare should just go away. she says there are good things and bad things and believe it or not because the subsidies wind up taking care of the spikes she's not so much concerned about the 116% spike that happened in arizona, she's concerned about the access to doctors getting an appointment for her daughter who has epilepsy. insurers are pulling out because they're not making money so in these counties you're not having a choice of what plan you're going to go to, just going to blue cross/blue shield, you're not getting a choice so you only have a smaller pool of doctors so that access getting an appointment on time or seeing your regular dow doctor that you saw last year, now you have to switch every year because these insurance companies are
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changing. so you're see people more concerned about access less than the premium spike because subsidies are taking care of the spike. >> subsidies are a huge piece of that. you mentioned arizona where it's in the triple digits. an increase in some states and some in the negative so you're actually paying less. >> like indiana. >> now to the politics of this. so we have two weeks to go until election day. bill press is joining us, cnn political commentator and clinton supporter p matt schraff is back. bill press, when you look at these numbers saying "we told you so. are they right?" wait a minute, you have bernie sanders and me saying we told you so. >> were you right? >> yes. i'm not going to spin this any way. obamacare is a mess. bernie was right in the sense that when he talked about obamacare he said the problem is it leaves the insurance
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companies and the drug companies in charge. they can still screw consumers any way they can think of it and we show that they are and the only long-range solution is to go to single payer. >> how should hillary clinton respond to this? >> that's where i'm going. >> reading your mind, bill. >> hillary clinton suzuki also right when she says we have to fix it and the short-term fix is the public plan option. people can buy into medicare, medicare for everybody, even president obama now supports that and that's a short-term solution and single payer the long run. the other thing i want to emphasize what alison said, it's important to keep in mind. this is bad, but the people who will be hurt by these increased premium cans get a subsidies which means all of us taxpayers will be paying, not the individual consumer. >> so appreciate that answer and matt schlapp, a lot of democrats are saying we expected this to
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happen, this is part of the evolution, we set the premiums low to get -- draw people in, growing pains, it's not perfect. do you buy that? >> well, i think you should let bill keep talking, i'm happy to give him my time. >> all right, i will. >> bill, you're an honest man and what bernie sanders -- >> he is an honest man. >> what bernie sanders said and it's one of the reasons why bernie sanders has cross appeal even with some folks that don't like the government so much is obamacare was never going to work. these state exchanges were always really fraudulent. what a lot of liberals wanted was a one federal controlled administered insurance program for americans which is what many people like bernie sanders would like and you have people on the right who have said the way obama went about obamacare, you were going to get the worst of all worlds. you were going to get skyrocketing insurance premiums, which obviously americans are hurting and it is sensitive to the fact that their premiums are
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going up and you're not going to get better health care coverage, as we've seen doctors exit and insurance companies exit this confusing -- what they like to call marketplace, it's not a marketplace. so we have the worst of all worlds. i think the country will have to go towards a single payer which will be obnoxious to a lot of voters and democrats don't usually like to talk about it and hillary clinton sure isn't or we have to go back to the idea of market forces in our health care, yes, we have to have certain minimum expectations but the number one thing we want as america, america has the best health care on the globe and we don't want to do anything to damage that because lives are at stake. >> well, hang on, let me just jump in because, bill, i'm coming to you. i'm sure hillary clinton will talk about this and bill you may be fresh she want in the sense that you hit on maybe what we hear from her. but if i may go back a few weeks to another bill, bill clinton. you know where i'm going. i'm sure the hillary camp in brooklyn was not thrilled when he said this a couple weeks ago,
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perhaps being a tad too honest, roll it. >> soive ivyou have a crazy sys where more people have health care but people are out there winding up with their prooef yums doubled and coverage cut in half. it's the craziest thing in the world. >> was he speaking the truth? >> i must admit ti laughed wheni heard bill clinton say that because he must have read my book "buyers' remorse" when i talked about among other things obamacare but i have to make this point. with all the problems with obamacare, here's where i disagree with matt. it's a hell of a lot better than what we used to have. 20 million people have health insurance, there are good features like kids being able to stay on their parents' health care until 26. the fact you can't get denies because of a pre-existing condition and it's better than nothing which is all the republicans have come up with so
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for the short term, again, the thing is to fix it and to fix it is increase availability give people a chance to get into medicare which is the least costly medicare provided by today. >> i want to see bill press keep talking and for the first time in my life i would like to hear bill clinton keep talking because we know what we have and the american people know what we have isn't the right alternative because it's never been popular in the polls and the problem with what bill is saying, if i could decode that -- that's all right, i'll get the last word. >> we need more people working to pick up more of the expenses, people who are having trouble paying their bills -- >> they want young people to sign up. >> and this is the problem in america is that those folks who are working are not seeing their incomes go up, they haven't seen them go up for a decade. not just obama, it was in the bush years, too, we can't keep expecting them to pay for everything for others. the system breaks and that's why
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we have discontent. >> is that a line you think we should hear from donald trump pounding this message into the ground for the next two weeks? >> absolutely. >> especially in states like arizona where premiums will go up, where you know hillary clinton is trying to turn a red state into a blue state going up 19%, it could work for him. >> let me say brooke, and then i'll be quiet, it's the number one reason on the minds of voters which is they feel economic insecurity because their prices are going up and salaries are not. >> bill, can trump stay on message? >> i was going to go to that point. of course this is a good opening for donald trump but he has shown so far in a year and a half no ability to stay on message so he'll be talking about probably miss universe today. but back to matt's point, let me be clear, i am not defending obamacare, i told you, obamacare is a mess. >> "buyers' remorse," i know. >> but the point i was making was -- again, i'm not for this -- but the individual consumer won't feel the bite
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because subsidies are available and it's the taxpayers who will pay the bite which is again why a single-payer system is a better system and we have to get there. if it's good enough for sweden and canada and the uk and france it's good enough for us. >> we'll see how donald trump and hillary clinton, how they continue talking about it today, matt schlapp, bill press, thank you. up next, for a man who doesn't let his guard down, donald trump made a big admission about which state he knows he needs to win the white house. plus, a mysterious new super pac ad warns trump will launch a nuclear bomb. who's behind this? let's talk about that. and all she wants to do is shorten the heck out of this never-ending election. coming up next, sheryl crow joins me live on set about her petition to both parties, do not miss it. you pay your car insurance
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she's got pipes and she is here with me in new york. she is grammy award winning singer sheryl crow, a life long democrat performing the national anthem at the first democratic primary debate in october of last year. can you believe that? a year ago. she calls herself an avid follower of politics but she's had enough. she started an online petition at that demands a shorter campaign season and in part this is what it says "this election cycle has been extremely damaging and has incited fear and hatred in a country founded on the beauty of our differences. the american people have been extremely disrespected in this campaign season with the ugliness that pits us against each other. it's time this comes to an end and that we demand better for ourselves. sheryl crow is here with me right now. so nice to see you. >> thank you, nice to see you. >> you didn't want this to go on six more months? come on now! >> i'm going to miss it. i am worried about the next day. what are people going to do? >> you're getting ahead of me.
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i'm curious about how you're spending your night and next day. how did you? when did you? why did you? >> a couple reasons. i am the mother of two little boys. >> nine and six. >> and i will practically hurdle over the couch to get to the remote control before they can turn on the news and i know a lot of other moms feel that way, or dads, and i got to the point where i felt like this is this has gone on so long that we're not learning anything more, it's become just sensationalized, it's incentivizing vitriolic hatred -- just hate talk, really and i don't want my kids to be exposed to it. that's a terrible feeling when you're considering voting for the highest office in the land and you're protecting your children from them catching any of it. so other countries have managed to shorten their campaign cycles, certainly there has to be a way we can do that as well. >> it's not like ugly politics
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is new, you just feel like the rhetoric from both sides -- would you agree both sides? >> absolutely. i come from a conservative family, when i was a kid i could only stay up until 10:30 and i would say "dad, why can't i stay up later? "nothing good happens after 10:30 at night." and i feel like we've gotten past the point of learning anything new, we're not talking about issues, we're literally just trying to keep everything sensationalized? >> have you heard from either campaign a response to your petition that you want this thing shortened? >> interestingly, i turned on the news the other day and the al smith coverage was on. >> al smith dinner the new york. >> yes, and hillary clinton was saying they said we needed a shorter campaign cycle and they turned over to donald trump and he's nodding and applauding. >> what are you proposing?
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>>. >> i would love to see about six months. we have a large country, we've had to sit down with the two major parties and talk about how can we make this shorter and where we're proud to be a part of this election process? >> do you think that had, let's say, this election cycle been six months that the outcome would be different? do you think the nominees would be different if it was shorter? >> i don't know. when talking about putting the primaries on one day, you look at someone like barack obama who benefited from having primaries spread out because he had a grass-roots movement going. if he were going against donald trump funded by his own millions that rules out that candidate. we saw it with bernie sanders, he had a huge grass-roots movement. so that doesn't work. but there has to be a way. canada has a shorter one, england, france. these all have shorter campaign cycles and we have social media in a thousand ways to get information out there. >> you mentioned england and let me press you because i go back to brexit. cameron was out, he promised the vote would happen out of the eu,
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felt like it was rushed, people didn't have the fact, the information and a lot of people who voted leave -- which ended up winning -- have buyers' remorse. would you worry about that with a shortened election cycle? >> i would say we have to sit down and be thoughtful about this. i know we can do that. this country is illustrious when it comes to creating a new way of looking at things and we take the best bits and pieces of other systems. do i think 38 days like what england had would work for us? no. but do i think two years is fruitful in any way, shape, or form? i don't think so. >> when you talk about two years, i think it was ted cruz march of 2015 -- >> 232 days ago. >> not that anyone is counting. do you think that because people have to take this chunk out of their life to run, do you think we would get different candidates? people who if you shortened it
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took that shortened time off? would there be better candidates? >> i don't want to sound like a dinosaur and this petition is a way for us who are the people the government works for, it's our way of saying we have a say in this and we're telling you that all of us want to see this thing changed. we want to have a better system for our kids to feel good about. we want to put some respect back into the oval office. when it drags out this long it becomes -- it only benefits the networks. it only benefits policy -- not even policymakers but political consultants. >> what about debates? do you think they were helpful? >> i don't want to sound like a dinosaur but when i was a kid -- >> you're not a dinosaur. >> but i was saying when i was a kid, it was walter cronkite, you had the debates, conversations at home, newspapers, we have every way of possible of finding out information about our candidates. we can't let it become what it's
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become now. there's a lot of time on our hands to fill up 24 hours of news and a lot of things that get covered have nothing to do with the issues and perhaps we can get respect back into our system. we have a lot of great candidates that are running. >> this thing went in a direction and we're in the final stages of the election and i think it's created vitriol. we have to abandon that and get back to something more civilized? >> where are you and your boys on election night? sitting in tv? >> i have a barn and we have friends over election night and we'll see who wins and probably eat pizza and drink beers and get on with it. >> sheryl crow, thank you so much. >>, make it short. >> sheryl, thank you. next, donald trump says he needs the state of florida to claim victory on election day. does the math pan out for him? we'll discuss that. plus, could a new tv network be in the cards after the election for him? how donald trump could be laying
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correct? >> right. i believe florida is a must win and i think we're winning it. i think we're winning it big. >> 29 electoral votes. you can't go to the white house unless you win in florida, you would concede that, right? >> i think that's probably true. >> all right, so david chalian, cnn political director, hello, sir. >> hello. >> so hearing trump acknowledge yes he needs florida to win, it's a significant admission coming from a man who doesn't always acknowledge things. >> that is true, brooke, it is a significant admission and it also perfectly describes the state of the race where we are right now because if hillary clinton was on that same fox and friends show and asked that same question she could honestly say no, it's not a must-win for me, it gets at how narrow donald trump's path is, he is right to acknowledge it. he can't win this race without florida, it's not feasible so it
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shows you what a narrow path he has there. >> so the path referring to the electoral collegeman, you have to get to 270. trump's campaign released a electoral map and here you have it. you have campaign manager kellyanne conway e-mailing supporters saying it's this map that shows where trump currently stands spels the possible path forward for the win so when you look at this it puts trump at 266 while clinton claims 193. can you -- how do you read this map? do you think this is accurate? >> um -- no. i don't believe that wisconsin anthonimy, the two states in theupper midwest are battlegrounds, they're leaning democratic. you can say the same for virginia, pennsylvania, maine and colorado. so i don't think this is an accurate reflection of what we call battlegrounds.
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but i think kellyanne is right when she says you want to know our path? here's our path, it's winning all of the romney states plus, florida, north carolina, iowa, ohio, nevada, new hampshire, and the one congressional district in maine. if they did all of that, that would be 270 electoral votes but that's a tall order. that's sweeping the board of every contested race out there right now. >> let me hone back in on florida because obamacare, we're talking about it, the premiums, the report came out premiums are up next year and when you look at exit polls from four years ago in 2012, when floridians were polled, 47% of floridians wanted to repeal obamacare, which is precisely what trump is advocating. we know the premiums in florida are going up 19% so if trump pounds this into the pavement for the next two weeks, could that help him win florida? >> it's a huge gift for him. is this storyline is a big gift.
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i don't know how much it will move the needle and remember it's not a completely clean shot because as donald trump has already faced questions in debates about this, he still has to answer the questions about what his replacement for obamacare looks like. just like hillary clinton needs to continue to answer the questions what fixes she wants to make. but the idea that it is in the headlines now that premiums are going up, that options are becoming fewer for consumers, that insurance companies are leaving the exchanges, these are the exact warnings against obamacare that republicans have been making for the last six, seven years so the fact that it's happening at the end here to have this information for donald trump to get out there and tout gives him an issue that as you point out people are divided on and one where he's not just speaking to his base but perhaps could bring on independent voters, try to bring on moderate republicans that may have drifted away to rail against obamacare. that's a unifying message for
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people beyond his base but to his party more broadly. >> for trump and all the republicans down ballot. david chalian, thank you very much. >> thank you. up next, for the first time in 13 years, bill clinton is underwater in his unfavorable ratings. why is that happening? is it trump. he is speaking live in north carolina right now. plus the reviews are in and so are the numbers on what appears to be a soft launch of trump tv. see what happened and how trump is responding today. you're watching cnn. little miss muffet sat on eating her curds and whey. along came a burglar who broke into her home and ransacked the place making off with several valuable tuffets. fortunately geico had recently helped her with homeowners insurance. she got full replacement on her tuffets. the burglar was later captured when he was spotted with whey on his face. call geico and see how much you could save on homeowners insurance.
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baldwin. bill clinton is one of the most popular presidents of our time. he's gotten less popular. he's been out on the presidential campaign trail all year long stumping for his wife and he's taken hit, let me show you numbers. in may of last year, bill clinton's favorability was at 64%. 13 months later it was at 51%. and now you see the numbers, the latest cnn/orc poll shows the tumble in his popularity landed him at 47% for october. it's a steep slide that may be from repeated hits by donald trump trumps. >> if you look at bill clinton, far worse, mine are words, his were action. his was what he's done to women. there's never been anybody in the history of politics in this nation that's been so abusive to women. >> with me now, brian stelter, host of "reliable sources" and tim neftali, presidential
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historian and former director of the nixon presidential library. why down to 47%? >> well, look, donald trump's campaign has succeeded in pulling down the favorability ratings of one clinton, just the wrong one. there's no doubt that dump's efforts to remind people of the naughty '90s have had an effect. but politically useless effect. >> i wonder if it will last. but the first lady or gentlemen is more popular than the person in charge of the white house so i wonder if he'll again in office. >> if she wins. >> donald trump on election day, what's up if he loses? >> there's speculation he'll launch a network or streaming service and we're seeing a prototype. every night at 6:30, the trump campaign having what looks like a newscast, is really a campaign
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ad giving his supporters encouragement and support in these two weeks so it will go everybody night through election day. >> let me play sound. donald trump has responded to the speculation that after the election if he were to lose that trump tv could happen, here he was. >> i have no interest in trump tv. i have one interest, that's november 8. >> all right. so, you know, understandably optically you want to think you're going to win but it's a potenti potential. >> the fan base is the key part of that line. he has a fan base and they'll want to see him whether he wins or loses so if he wins or lose there is will be an interest in some way to watch and see trump there that's on facebook, a new challenge, something like that. >> in these final two weeks -- last question, tim -- you have these ads popping up. i'll play one in just a second,
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mysterious ads from super pacs whose donors don't have to repeal themselves until after the election. here's one example. >> one nuclear bomb can kill a million people. that's more than all the men, women, and children living in columbus, ohio. >> they're hearing a guy running for president of the united states maybe using nuclear weapons. nobody wants to hear that about an american president. >> why do we make them? why do we make them why do we make them? >> obviously that is an anti-trump ad, the donor, the head of the super pac has just revealed himself in the last 20 minutes or so. it's bill bradley who's come fog ward but the point being, a, do you think that's effective and, b, tell me more about the ads. >> they're mysterious because according to the rules an ad that runs now, past last thursday, the donors don't to be publicly revealed until after
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the election. this is a play off of a 1964 ad against barry goldwater known as the daisy ad. what's interesting about this ad is where it's running. it's running in ohio. it's running in a state where secretary clinton still has a fight on her hands and i suspect this is on behalf of people who would like her to win in a landslide. she doesn't need to win ohio to get 272 electoral votes but she would like to have ohio. >> if you thought this election would be about hope and positivity, no. an ad like that preys on the most base emotion, which is fear. >> brian and tim, thank you very much. up next, it's like a toxic waste dump. a sulfur factory set on fire by isis. toxic fumes spreading through the air for miles and miles all around. >> they placed explosives inside what was a massive mountain of
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leaders of the coalition to defeat isis met in france. ash carter saying he's encouraged by the fight for the iraqi city still under isis control. look at the map with me. the push to retake mosul has moved more quickly than expected, but isis is not letting go without a fight, far outnumbered the terror group is setting trap, laying ieds, setting fire to oil fields, igniting a sulfur facility, sending a toxic cloud into the sky and hundreds of people to the hospital, our senior international correspondent arwa damon went to the poison zone. >> it could almost be waves rippling against a shoreline on another planet. neon streams catching the light. but this hauntingly beautiful scenery is toxic.
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the yellow rock formations are raw sulfur crumbling and melting under intense heat. it may look volcanic, but this is man made. when isis withdrew from the sulfur factory, they placed explosives inside what was a massive mountain of sulfur as well as placing it ploexives over an expanse of around four and a half kilometers around this factory sending poisonous fumes into the air. >> hundreds of people living in the area had to seek medical attention for trouble breathing, burning eyes and choking. hospitals ran out of oxygen i have no idea how the vast majority of these workers out here are able to deal with the smell and the burning in one's eyes without having proper those people out here don't have
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gas masks on but they are working tirelessly to try to bring this under control. across this oth > . >> reporter: there are bulldozers, firefighters trying to stifle the flames with loads of dirt. this is a battlefield that has no rules or boundaries. and this is just one of the many ways that isis is trying to use whatever it possibly can to try to not only impede the advance of the security forces towards mosul but also in doing so cause maximum damage and maximum impact on the civilian population. if this is a sign of the lengths isis will go to out here, it's terrifying what it plans for mosul itself. arwa damon, cnn, iraq. >> incredible. arwa damon in iraq, thank you so
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>> i want to thank them for
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coming as well. [ cheers and applause ] >> i've got to ask you, did anybody see the last debate? [ cheers and applause ] well, the good news was it was the last debate. oh, well thank you! [ laughter ] yeah, that last -- [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] thank you! you know, you're right, that last debate was like an early birthday present, right? but here's what i wanted you to remember. i stood next to donald trump for
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four and a half hours proving once again i have the stamina to be president and commander in chi chief. you know, i tried as much as i could to talk about all the issues that are on your minds that i believe we can work together to improve and, in fact, my wonderful running mate and i senator tim kaine wrote a book called "stronger together" and we put all of our policies in it because i want you to know what we're going do to be the next president and vice president. i think it's important because i want you to have confidence that we're going to work everyday to implement the plans that we have put forth and i tried in the debate to draw the contrast with donald trump -- who doesn't really have very many plans. you know, i've tried to run a
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campaign based on issues, he's run a campaign based on insults so in the debate we didn't have a lot to talk about other than he continued true to form to throw out his insults. but in that last debate he said something that i found horrifying. well, he said a lot of things, but there's one thing in particular that i wanted to point out because no presidential candidate -- republican or democrat -- has ever said this. he refused to say that he would respect the outcome of this election. [ boos ] now, i guess we shouldn't be too surprised this is the same guy who said he thought the emmys were rigged against him. this is serious. on january 20, the first thing a president does is to taken a oath to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution and i have serious doubts about whether donald trump even understands what that means.
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in america, we don't say we're going to keep you in suspense about whether we will respect the outcome of an election, we have free and fair elections and the peaceful transfer of power that is one thing that makes america great. it makes america who we are. [ cheers and applause ] and we don't impose religious tests at our borders because we are country that was founded on religious liberty and we don't punish newspapers or journalists that try to cover the news or are critical of politicians or threat on the restrikts the first amendment because our democracy depends on a free press. and we don't incite violence and turn people against each other, we respect the open exchange of ideas that a democracy depends on.
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[ cheers and applause ] i've got to say, i bet some of you or maybe your parents and grandparents came from places where none of that was true, right? there is a reason why america is the greatest and longest-lasting democracy the world has ever known because we believe that no matter what you look like or where your parents were born or who you love you have the right to be treated equally and fairly in the united states. [ cheers and applause ] and donald trump is attacking everything that has set our country apart for 240 years. now, after spending his entire campaign attacking one group of americans after another -- immigrants, african-americans, latinos, women, p.o.w.s, muslims, people with disabilities, now his final target is democracy itself.
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so here's what i want you to know. the next four years we are going to change some things in america, right? [ applause ] i do want to get the economy working for everyone not just those at the top and we're going to do that along with other positive changes but we are not going to change the fundamental value that made america the greatest nation in the history of the world. i think it all started -- i think this all started when george washington refused to become a king, right? now, donald trump probably would have called him a loser. instead that was one of the most important decisions any president has ever made. eight years, it's time to move on. we fought a revolution so that we would not have a king. weou