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and that does it for us. what a night. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. breaking news, you know the old saying, it ain't over until it's over. new polls show this race may be closer than anybody thought. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. hillary clinton's lead shrinking in our new poll of polls, down to six points over donald trump, and the whole thing could come down to the sunshine state, florida where the new bloomberg poll has trump in the lead. just barely, but remember, this is a state that barack obama won twice. clinton today, taking nothing for granted. >> we can't take our foot off the gas even for a short time. every vote counts. just and my friend, former vice president, al gore.
>> you might have heard this, the battle between megyn kelly and newt gingrich. >> you are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy. >> me, really? >> that's what i get out of watching you tonight. >> well, now donald trump is weighing in. >> congratulations, newt, on last night. that was an amazing interview. >> wonder if he saw the same interview. meanwhile he tells a crowd in north carolina this tonight. >> 75% of the american people think our country is on the wrong track. that's an easy one to figure, isn't it? we're going to fix it and we're going to get our country back on the right track and it's going to happen very quickly. >> let's get right now to mark mckinnon and mark preston. good evening, gentlemen. a bunch of new national polls out today so what do they show?
>> in a month of bad headlines he got some good news for this evening any way in a new fox news poll. let's put it up on the screen. right now it shows hillary clinton only has a three-point advantage over donald trump. now, with in that poll, it shows that trump has a 14-point advantage with white voters, 5-point advantage with male voters, a 28-point advantage with non-educated whites. now, where does hillary clinton, where does she see her strengths? not surprisingly 77 point advantage with african-americans, a 10-point advantage with women and 18-point advantage with those that are under -- voters under 30. however we can't look at one poll as a solo and say that's the snapshot of the race. let's look at the cnn poll of polls, that cnn has selected and gives us a better idea of the race it. shows clinton has a six-point lead right now over donald trump. now, of course this is a
national poll, and it includes the new fox news poll, as you can see there, as well. gary johnson comes in at 5%, jill stein at 2%. the race is tightening with the state polls and the national polls hillary clinton still seems to have a pathway, a more clear pathway to winning 270 electoral votes needed to win the election. >> all right. let's bring in mr. mckinnon. there is for good news for donald trump in the key state of florida. in florida, he's two points ahead. should we be surprised by that? >> the race always tightens up in the last couple weeks. there's been a significant news development, which is help to feel donald trump and that's the announcement of the obamacare premiums. it's what donald trump has been saying all along and telling people those premiums are going up so that's a bad-news development that's certainly helped donald trump, but i think also a lot of republicans are looking at their options and they're coming home, and also,
you have the third-party vote that at the end of these races people say i don't want to throw my vote away. >> and democrats usually come home, republicans usually come home. >> and the key for donald trump, hillary clinton currently has 90% of the democrats supporting her. donald trump only has about 85% of republicans. he needs to get that to 90%. >> let's hear from donald trump because dana bash caught up with trump today at his hotel ribbon cutting and asked him about his fundraising efforts. >> reporter: time's running out. the's ticking. will you write a check? >> i've already done that. >> reporter: specifically to get up on the air to combat the ads hillary clinton is running against you? >> in florida, she has 50 to one against me. >> you have the means to combat that. >> sure, i do. 50 to one and i'm leading. in the old days, you would spend less money and a victory, you would get credit.
that would be a good thing. i'm spending $100 million. i'm willing to spend much more if i have to. we're seeing it in florida and other places the lines going into voting booths, going into voting areas, are unbelievable. in florida, yesterday, we passed four of them. the lines were three and four blocks long. those are not her voters because her voters have no enthusiasm. >> reporter: can you be specific how much are you willing to put down. >> no, i've already -- >> reporter: -- put in new ads. >> i said i have $100 million in. i'm willing to invest more than that. >> how much? >> just go to your next question, dana. >> he was a little bit testy there. it's more like $56 million. is he leading the republicans or not? >> the republican establishment, and senate and congressional candidates on the ballot with him, at this point, you know, i do wish -- i think that republicans do wish that in fact he had gone all in, he was able
to use some of his personal money and he was able to put up television ads a lot earlier than he has. we haven't seen that much from donald trump in paid advertising. he's done a lot of it just on earned media, doing call-in interviews and what have you. if you are a congressional candidate right now though you have to wonder are you willing to hitch your wagon to this horse. in some states do you not want to be connected to donald trump and in others quite frankly, you do. i do think the republican establishment wishes there was more money put in, don, but at this point, don, everyone needs to run their own race. >> and? >> i was the advertising effort of the bush campaigns and guy to the point where presidential campaigns where i believe 95% of most ads finance side wasted. it's not necessary to be advertising, and trump is a free-media machine. in the last report i saw donald trump is spending three times as much money on hats as he is on turn-out operations. >> the ground game is important. >> we're going to test the hat strategy.
in a close race that matters. that's where you get one or two percent difference. in the turnout operations. >> he's telling people it's rigged and they need to go watch the polls. this is from "usa today." it says half of all voters are somewhat worried about violence on election day or after and today this is what former u.s. representative walsh tweeted. he said on november 8th i am voting for trump. on november 9th if trump loses i'm grabbing a muskette, you in? when so many people are so anxious, is that irresponsible? >> yeah, i think it's highly irresponsible. we need a peaceful transition, no matter what happens and what concerns me is in the last two presidential elections, first george w. bush because we had a recount and half the country didn't see him as a legitimate president or a lot of them didn't, then when obama was elected and the birther stuff
and donald trump, many people didn't think he was a natural-born citizen, sort of handicapped him going in. now we have another situation where if hillary clinton wins, is sort of threatening whether or not he's going to lineup on the results or not and you have others talking about violence after the election so it's very concerning and irresponsible. >> you're out there and mark preston you've been on the campaign trail, as well. when you hear people saying things like that, what does that do when you hear that, to people who show up? >> it enrages them. we've seen donald trump takes the stage and encourage this type of stuff. we've seen democrats, as well, through the videos that were taken they in fact try to insight some of this themselves. but that's at a very, very small level and quite frankly didn't really make a mark. however, when you see somebody like that former congressman come out and say something like that, it really does say something about where we are right now as a nation and the fact of the matter is there is so much hatred and anger towards
washington because they don't feel like anyone gets anything done. and these folks in many ways, they should be -- they feel like they've been left behind and they don't think that washington is really representing them. that's where i think you're seeing most of trump's support come from. >> mark both of you -- you wanted to say something? >> it's just playing on peoples' fears and there are no facts to back it up. there is no voter fraud. there's 33 cases. still around we have a lot more. when we come back, the gold star father bashed by donald trump takes to the campaign trails today. could he be hillary clinton's strongest supporter? what? is he gone?? finally, i thought he'd never leave... tv character: why are you texting my man at 2 a.m.? no... if you want someone to leave you alone, you pretend like you're sleeping. it's what you do. if you want to save
donald trump campaigning tonight in north carolina, and laying out a plan that he calls a new deal for black america. black with me now, mark mckinnon and mark preston. mr. preston, trump gave a speech to revitalize the inner cities. listen to this. >> we will also police our streets. have to make our streets safe.
i want every poor african-american child to be able to walk down the street in peace and not be scared and not be hurt. the problem is not the presence of police, but the absence of police. we need really a great group of people to keep you safe, to keep us all safe. the war on police urged on by my rival is really reckless. what's happening is reckless and dangerous and puts african-american lives at risk and all you have to do is look at the statistics and you see what's happening. we must work with our police not against them. we're going to work together. >> mark, there has been an ongoing debate about what these speeches are really about, who he's targeting when he talks about the inner cities and police like that. who is it? >> you know, i think donald trump thinks he's targeting everybody in those but that's a very difficult speech to give in
the sense he's sending two messages and when you put them together they sound like a great thing to do but it's very, very complicated. if you go back to 2013 and you look at what the republican party did with the autopsy and they realized they had to reach out to african-americans and latinos, and they, you know, trotted the republican national committee to put some money behind it in the field, you can do that in neighborhoods, when you have a portion of the republican party pushing really hard on an immigration plan that is not going to be accepted by hispanics let alone by a majority of the country it's very difficult to reach out to these constituencies and we should know that donald trump has given similar speeches in the past but he's given to all-white audiences. not sure if he's trying to bring over black voters or soothe any fears of the undecide voters who
look at donald trump and question whether he has racial tendencies or not. >> mark mckinnon, it's kind of cringe worthy. >> he says it as if there is some sort of shared experience. i think that's not going to get a good reaction in the communities he's talking about. >> yeah, why doesn't he understand that, or his folks do you think understand that when he speaks that way about -- especially you know when he says that i want every poor african-american child? >> i think he -- i think in his own heart feels is genuine but that's just -- he doesn't -- he doesn't have enough experience to know that's not how you talk, that's not how you interact and hasn't been in the community enough to understand that. >> it's actually really, really awful. >> right. >> it's really terrible. >> and may have just the opposite effect. you. >> -- >> yeah. so he's been kind of tone deaf when it comes to his criticism of people of all kinds and his attacks on khan.
he was out on the trail for hillary clinton today campaigning in virginia. listen to this. >> this election, we are going to select american values and i have no hesitation, i will say it a million times because you-all have given me the courage by your example to speak when the time comes, get up and stand up and speak i will say this cross road is american values that represented by secretary clinton, and un-american hate and division represented by donald trump. >> other than the first lady, is there a more effective surrogate other than someone who has lost their child in war? >> that was such a powerful moment at the convention, and because it was authentic, this was not a politician, this was a real human being, who lost a loved one, unscripted from the heart.
>> uh-huh. >> and showing his grief. >> yeah. >> mark preston, can you compare the surrogates hillary clinton has to the surrogates donald trump has out on the trail and what it means in terms of galvanizing and turning out voters because that's really now you need to turn out voters. >> it's not comparable at all. the fact of the matter is donald trump, in his campaign, he's alienated so many people in the republican party that could potentially work on his behalf. him and speaker ryan don't even speak, which is amazing, right, because they both want to see a republican-controlled congress and a republican white house, but if you look who hillary clinton has, barack obama on the campaign trail, as you noted, michelle obama, who will be with hillary clinton for the first time in north carolina tomorrow, whose been an amazing surrogate. you've seen bernie sanders, her opponent, out there. elizabeth warren, a very good surrogate, as well. you're talking about folks who can reach out to different constituencies not only in their
own party. joe biden who is doing blue collar worker outreach in pennsylvania and ohio, and donald trump, his surrogates are his children and they're pretty good but don't rise to the level, and rudy giuliani, who seems to have gone off the rails a little bit in this campaign in the past couple months. >> and for any grieving period you have to honor the grieving. you're disrespecting the sacrifice that person made. >> yeah, i want to ask you, mark mckinnon, this is an amazing about-face bayou at that jason . he unendorsed donald trump. >> i can no longer endorse donald trump for president. there's no way i vote for hillary clinton, but these are abhorrent, they are wrong, to use a baseball metaphor, i have to call balls and strikes the
way i see them, probably more compelling than that is my 15-year-old daughter. really? you want her dad to endorse -- this person, and the way they are behaving to become the president of the united states of america? i can't do that with my 15-year-old daughter, so why should i do that with the rest of utah? i just couldn't do it. >> and tonight here's what he tweeted. he says, i will not defend or endorse donald trump, but i am voting for him. hrc is that bad. hrc is bad for the usa. so mark mckinnon is the party leaning on him because it's so close in utah? >> gee, shock. this is called politics, don. and he's getting squeezed at home by those trump supporters, he sees the polls tightening back up again. and he's trying to have it both ways and i think ultimately, when you try and have it both ways voters see through it and you don't have any way at all. >> does any -- i guess -- do people stand on principle
anymore? i hear people say the most horrible things about someone and all the sudden they're best buddies. >> you think somebody takes a principle stand like ted cruz did at the convention, and then you say maybe there is some principle there. and then, few weeks later, folds. >> what's up on the circus? >> the circus, we're going to focus a lot on what it takes and we're going to do it through the lens of joe biden. joe biden's run a couple times. he wanted to run this time. he has been vice president. he knows more than anybody arguably about what it takes to run for president so we're going to take a look at joe biden. >> i was like do you know where you are half the time? and he says, no. and you don't either, mark preston. >> i find out at midnight where i'm going tomorrow. >> gosh, i would like to see your airline schedule. that must be nuts. thank you guys, appreciate it. when we come back, newt gingrich
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megyn kelly. megyn kelly megyn kelly mc megyn kelly gingrich one of his top surrogates for his on-air clash with fox news anchor megyn kelly. here to discuss, former lieutenant governor of new york, empties betsy mccoy. and former governor of michigan, supporting hillary clinton. good evening to both of you. thank you for coming on. >> good evening. >> good evening, governor. >> good evening. >> i want to start with you, betsy. i want you to listen to the exchange between megyn kelly and the former speaker last night. >> to know why donald trump has a hard time? >> if trump is a sexual predator. >> he is not a sexual predator. i'm sick and tired of people like you using language that's inflammatory that's not true. >> excuse me, mr. speaker, you have no idea whether it's true or not. what we know -- >> neither do you. >> that's right. i'm not taking a position on it unlike you. >> yes you do, when you use the word, you take a position.
i think that's unfair, i think that's the bias. >> i think your defensiveness may speak volumes, sir. >> want to go through your interviews, you are fascinated with sex, and you don't care about public policy. >> you know what mr. speaker, i'm not fascinated by sex. but i am fascinated by the protection of women and understanding what we are getting in the oval office. i think the american voters who like to know. >> therefore we are going to send bill clinton back to the east wing because after all you are worried about sexual predators. do you want to comment whether the clinton ticket has a connect to a sexual predator. >> we on the kelly file have covered that as well, sir. >> say bill clinton, sexual predator. disbarred by the arkansas bar. disbarred. $850,000 penalty. >> excuse me, sir. we on the kelly file have covered the clinton matter as well. we'll have to leave it at that.
and you can take your anger issues and spend some time working to.them, mr. speaker, thanks for being here. >> and you too. >> that was a mike drop. considering he has a deficit with women, 20%, hillary clinton has a 20% lead, governor, how does that -- >> the republican party has long had a deficit with women. >> how does that help close that gap? >> let me point out this. first of all, i have had a very long relationship of great affection and friendship with megyn kelly. i have enormous respect for how she runs her show. but i do believe that the polls show that americans are not buying this roll out of accusers, and this bigger theme of man shaming. and they want to get to the real issues. and the latest fox poll shows it very well. for example, 13 -- trump is up 13% over hillary clinton nationwide with independent voters.
that includes women as well as men. >> you think that exchange helps him with women. >> the exchange, it just happened. but the fact is what i'm saying is that americans are watching this drum beat about these sexual accusations and they are saying, i don't buy that. i want to hear about the economy. >> i understand your argument. i understand, but i have to say you are a little off because it seems like -- that he is personally targeting someone who has been targeted by donald trump already. he was specifically talking about mig megyn, she is obsessed with sex. i watch her show all the time -- >> it's amazing how some of these things get personal. look at us, we have disagreed on so much, we don't fight, i have enormous respect how you run your show. >> i don't fight, i just want answers. >> governor, get in on this? >> 51% of the population are
buying the accusers number one. number two, i thought that exchange was disrespectful of megyn kelly. not only was she utterly professional, calling him mr. speaker, sir. and he calling her megyn, and pointing his finger, and doing this man spleening thing, i dare you. i'm not on that side of the aisle but i felt so offended for her, and she was utterly poised but that was a bullying effort on his part. wonder why women -- why trump has a 20 point deficit. it's poem like newt gingrich rich and donald trump and rudy giuliani who are coming out there with this great bombast asserting these things that are -- you know, that really when he tries to die vrt away from what women really want -- they want to hear about whether this person is a sexual predator. they want to know whether that's true or not true. she was simply asking a question
and all he did was attack her instead of attack the issue. >> what he was getting at, and perhaps his style was a little more aggressive than you would like, what he was getting at is how unfair it is for the media to hear an accusation that has absolutely no evidence and no witnesses behind it and splash it across the front page of the "new york times" or up on a television screen without even telling the public the viewers and the readers that this accusation comes with no evidence. that's what happened -- >> with all due respect. that was the same thing that the folks over at bill cosby -- bill koss beau's camp said the same thing. and then you see what has rolled out now. >> sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong. >> their wrong. >> think of the injustice, the duke la crosse case, the uva rape case, lives are ruined and then the truth comes out. >> to say there is no corroborating evidence is not true. in many of these cases there is corroborating evidence in the
sense that these women told somebody at the time. or in the case of that access hollywood tape there is actually donald trump on tape. or donald trump on tape talking to howard stern bragging about going into see -- >> those are words. those words, those words are not against the assault. sexual assault is different. let me clarify what i said, governor. in the case of jessica leads, accuser number one, she went to the "new york times" and said about 40 years ago i was seated on a plane and donald trump groebed me. the "new york times" 48 hours later published that on the front page. they couldn't confirm the date that it happened if it ever happened, or even the year, the flight, the departure city. they had no witnesses. they had not one fact before they ran that on the front page of the "new york times." >> that's -- >> let me go on. i wrote a piece for the new york post where i reviewed each of these 11 accusations. and they came up very thin. >> that's in your estimation.
that's the evidence what you have. >> no, not nye my estimation. there was no evidence. >> okay. governor. >> the question i think don was getting at, though, that you have got now two figures in the republican party or at least that have been al ayed with the conservative wing, megyn kelly and newt gingrich rich going at one another at a time when donald trump is losing women. this does not help his 20 point deficit with women to see the republican party splinter like this. so i just think that his strategy of going after her as opposed to talking about the issues, talking about -- i mean he can talk about whether these women were accurate or not, but he didn't. he went after her personally. what a terrible strategy that was. >> i agree that people don't like to see unpleasantness or cruelty or fighting on television. i agree with that. but getting to the big issue, look i've been a feminist for 50 years, as you have, governor. i was a very early female
lieutenant governor of new york, one of the first columbia professors in my department. so i feel this need to defend women. but now when i look at the workplace or college campuses or politics i see that men are constantly and unfairly put on the defensive. a man can't call a woman nasty but women can make any kind of accusations against a man. >> okay, okay, but also women are afraid to come forward, and you can speak to this better than i, anyone who is a victim of sexual assault are afraid to come forward because they are afraid people won't believe them and they are afraid of being shamed as is happening in the media right now, governor? >> it causes them to think twice about coming forward. obviously no one wants to be accused of sexual harassment and no one wants to go through being sexually harassed. in this case you have ten people who have bravely come forward after hearing donald trump say he is going to sue them for
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newt gingrich goes head-to-head with megyn kelly donald trump cheers but what about the voters? here to discuss, charles will op ed columnist at the "new york times," kayleigh mcenany, and maria cardona and scottie nell hughes, a trump supporter -- >> is it halloween yet? >> i wanted to see your reaction to that. we have been discussing, as i was with the governor and lieutenant governor, megyn kelly, and newt gingrich, it got pretty heated last night. he, telling megyn bizarrely she was fascinated by sex. look at this. >> you are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy. >> me? really? >> that's what i get out of watching you tonight. do you want to comment on whether the clinton ticket has a relationship to a sexual predator? >> we on the kelly file have
covered that story, as well, sir. >> i just want to hear you use the words "bill clinton sexual predator." i dare you, say "bill clinton sexual predator." >> we're going to leave it at that and you can take your anger issues and spend some time working on them, mr. speaker. thanks for being here. >> and you, too. >> that was so awesome. megyn. so any way. did he really do donald trump any favors last night with that exchange? >> yes, he did. and first i want to say i appreciate megyn kelly a lot as a journalist. she's done a lot for the conservative movement. and exposing some important stories. that being said, mainstream america viewed that different than we in the media. mainstream media begged us to focus on the issues. and last night, newt said we cannot allowed to talk about --
>> that is not -- >> we can never talk about president obama, and the public policy. we can only talk about sex in the mainstream media. >> hold it. that is not what he said. if he said you guys in the mainstream media, or you should focus on what have you, he personally attacked megyn kelly, said he was fascinated with sex and he watches her show -- he talked about her specifically he's seen as attacking a women that had nothing to do with the media in general. he was talking about her specifically, so how you can spin it into something it's about the media. >> it's not spinning it. he was talking about her case -- >> that's not what he said. that's what you're saying. >> he said you. you interpreted that you personally. >> he said you, meaning megyn kelly. he said i've watched your show, don lemon's show, bryan lemon's show, jake tapper. i have watched anderson. he said i've watched your show, megyn kelly. you are fascinated with sex. he did not broaden it to the media overall. that's a spin. >> you interpreted that as you, megyn kelly. i interpreted that as you media at large. >> you're the only one in the world. >> i don't think so. >> absolutely not.
>> and there's reason the media has the lowest trust ever recorded in gallop history because all things we talk about are things like this. we never talk about the issue. >> you're part of the media, as well. >> i'm not part of the media. >> yes, you are. you're on television. >> i'm not part of the media. >> yes, you are. you are. i'm here to support donald trump. i'm not part of the media. don't put that title on me. >> are you getting a check? >> yeah, you getting paid by a news organization? >> you're an opinion person. charles you and i are journalists. >> one -- you're getting a check. >> i'm not a journalist. i'm an opinion person. >> i'm not a person of the media. >> i'll give you that. but you're getting a check from this studio. let me say. this i really don't have -- i don't have a problem with somebody being fascinated with sex, but what donald trump was talking about is not sex. >> right. >> assault is not sex, and the -- and the real problem here is that republicans -- particularly people in donald trump's camp, keep not understanding that there is a canyon of difference between sex, which is always consensual,
and assault, which is any forceable touching of anybody's body, that is assault. there's not -- nothing sexual about that. >> right. >> and if he -- if megyn is asking a question that came out of this man's mouth himself, whether he would say now he's joking about it, he now says he never did it, he says all the women who have accused him are telling a lie, he can say that. that's fine. i do believe you have to cover -- if it comes out of the candidates' mouth -- she was covering a lot of things and he went off the rails and this is a man who -- newt gingrich, who also has confessed to cheating on his wife. so what is your fascination, newt? >> okay if you're going to go to the whole idea she's getting a check that makes her a member of the media, we're going to say politician it's. >> you are, too. >> i'm a proud member of the media. that's my background, what i studied to be. that's like saying politicians who get checks from lobbyists make them to be absolutely scum
or they get to be the cockroaches a part of those companies they get checks from. that's that does not necessarily work. we bring people on here because they're experts in their area that does not make them to be a member of us. they don't have the same responsibility. >> no, no, no, no. >> you and i do. >> that doesn't make you part of the media. >> we're not in the same boat. i consider myself to be in the med what. >> the media point -- when you're getting a check from a media company. >> yeah. >> if you're on contract with the media company, you're part of that media and for people to say the media is so horrible, you're part of this, too. >> yeah. >> the fact we're having to talk about sex and we are talking about ducks and we're talking about -- >> sexual assault. >> -- kitty cats, the issues thirteen days out we're definitely giving a disservice to the american people. it's not what they want to be talking about. whether the candidates bring it or not, whether their campaigns, both sides are responsible or not, that's not what they want to hear. >> so why did newt gingrich respond. >> he was asked a question.
here you have the former speak er of the house -- >> ask me the question that megyn asked last night. >> and me the believe megyn kelly -- double -- >> she started with no comment, megyn i would rather not discuss this. >> we have the former speaker of the house, a person who i believe while hillary tells her husband's economics and how great he was for the economy, i tout on the republican congress newt gingrich led. that would be a great opportunity. let's talk about the economics. let's talk about donald trump. >> he didn't take it. >> he didn't take it. >> while newt was leading the impeachment of bill clinton. he was cheating on his wife. >> that's true. >> he's the last -- that wasn't personal. that was our money. we paid for that impeachment. thats our money. taxpayers paid for that impeachment. >> we paid for bill clinton's cheating. >> leave it out of it. >> if we can't talk about bill clinton's past, we can't talk
about newt gingrich rich's past. >> maria cardona. gingrich is the last person on earth who should be talking about this. >> amen and hallelujah. >> here you have a cereal cheater who has been married i don't know how many times defending a sexual predator who is a candidate for the presidency. >> you cannot -- >> and secondly, kayleigh and you and everybody keeps saying we need to talk about the issues. guess what. when you have 11 women who are coming out accusing you of sexual assault, and when you have your own words saying that this is what you like to do with beautiful women, because you can't help yourself, then i'm sorry, as a mother of two young children that is an issue. >> i have to say -- >> it's an issue for the american people -- >> he's been accused of predator behavior, he's not a sexual predator. >> i know the viewers are so much smarter than this and you
watch this and every time they go into sex that's what the hillary clinton campaign wants to talk about. they go into sex because hillary loses on the issues. your premiums are up, paychecks are down, you can't afford college -- you don't have a job. >> kayleigh -- kayleigh? whoa, i'm the host. i'll talk to the camera. you can discuss us. so that is not what is happening here. newt gingrich responded to that question, we're in the middle of a presidential campaign where donald trump has been accused by ten women of sexually predatory behavior. that is -- >> for doing what he said he did. >> that is a huge issue and again as i said to you before as someone who is a survivor of that, that is a big issue for me, and people do want to know who they're getting when they're going into the white house and vying for the white house and you're saying this is not an important issue to the american people -- >> don? >> -- hold on -- by saying there
are other issues that are more important. sure, there are other issues, but this is equally important as well. >> i'm not agreeing kissing allegations should be covered. i'm not disagreeing there. where i am disagreeing -- >> killing allegations? >> have you ever heard about obamacare? have you ever heard about the economy? we don't do segments because we talk about allegations. we haven't had a segment. >> we've had segments on that. hold on, stop it, please. that is not -- that is patently false. >> when did we -- >> three yesterday. >> i just talked about obamacare with mark mckinnon. you weren't part of that segment. we talked about it last night. >> because trump supporters aren't a part of that. we're not a part of that conversation. we're not allowed to talk about they. >> i talked about it three times talking about obamacare. into that is a complete deflection. and we'll be right back and maybe we'll talk about obamacare. who knows. i work 'round the clock. i want my blood sugar to stay in control. so i asked about tresiba®.
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i don't have anger management issues. i have media bias issues. and here is what donald trump said. >> by the way, congratulations, newt, on last night. that was an amazing interview. that was an amazing -- we don't play games, newt, right? we don't play games. >> the question, as you said, they're saying now it was media bias, even though it wasn't framed that way in the original conversation. i'm wondering as a clinton supporter, are you, like, yay, these two, someone on a conservative network and one of his sur dprogates is out fighti in. >> i think it underscores newt gingrich, the hypocrisy is incredible when they're talking about this, and then when they blame the media for an issue that donald trump can't himself
but bring up every time he talks to the public. and so yes, we would love to talk about issues, but like i said before, when you have this front and center that donald trump put front and center, nobody else, no network. wasn't cnn or fox news. no one else put words in his mouth. >> i want the newt sound bite from 2012. >> here's the thing about last night. both of them won. it was amazing to watch this happen in realtime action on social media. it was also here in the news room. the people against mr. trump cheered. they thought she was awesome. if you are a supporter of mr. trump, finally someone called out the bias they feel like megyn kelly has been since the day she was the moderator of the first debate. both sides feel emboldened by
the interview. >> i don't. listen, they can have their dual to the death mad max situation. i don't care what they do. what's important to me is that we do not advance rape culture, that we do not sweep that under the rug, that there's a way that you respond to -- even to allegations, even if they're wrong, at least you admit that what you said to the media, and entertainment tonight is part of the media. he's a smart guy doing media for all his life. using media his whole life. he knows better than to talk to the media in that way with a mike on. he did that to himself. and he cannot then turn around and say the media is biassed because they're using the words that came out of my mouth -- >> i want to play this. this is not the first time he's had a fight with a reporter over sex questions. >> she says you came to her in
1999 at a time when you were having an affair. she says you asked her, sir, to enter into an open marriage. would you like to take some time to respond to that? >> no, but i will. i think the destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office. i'm appalled you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that. >> in that one he talked about the media, but if when a candidate's private life is in the news, wouldn't the press be remiss not to ask about it? >> i think you brought up the salient point today with that clip. for those of us that watched that media, for us, we remembered that moment in 2012 and remembered cheering newt gingrich and saying yes, this should be about issues. this is a national stage where you get to tell the american
people what you're going to do for them. it's insulting to bring up sex allegations. you made the most salient point by playing that point. for us it harkened back to 2012. >> those are two different conversations and answers. >> here's the thing, that was good for gingrich, and it helped him win the south carolina primary. it didn't help him win the primary or the election, and this is the case with donald trump. you were right, the people who supported donald trump saw that as a win. it did not add any voters. >> obviously, it helped him. president gingrich. we'll be right back.
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13 days to go and donald trump is showing signs of life in the polls. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. clinton celebrating her birthday in the battleground state of florida today. meanwhile, trump taking a brief break from campaigning to cut the ribbon at his new washington hotel. >> with the notable exception of 1600 pennsylvania avenue, this is the most coveted piece of real estate in washington, d.c. >> and famous for telling it like it is, loved by millions