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celebrating as hard as they were last night. i'm sure that celebration is going to continue once they get back to chicago and schedule the big celebration championship parade. >> we were looking at the people celebrating in the bar in chicago. i'm sure they have been on a bender for the last several weeks. andy, thanks so much. next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. the presidential race tightens as time runs out. with just five days to go, trump and clinton using very different tactics. >> stay on point, donald. stay on point. no side tracks, donald. nice and easy. >> right now across the country, people are doing just that. they are rejecting his dark and divisive vision. >> they do share one goal, though. lock in those battleground states. both candidates trying to clinch critical votes in places like
north carolina today. the clinton campaign rolling out major surrogates again making crucial stops in places like florida and ohio. donald trump looking to begin up support with a boost from his own kids in a rare stump speech from his wife melania. we are covering all the angles with our team of political reporters. let's start with jason carroll in jacksonville, florida. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. this is a state that this candidate, this campaign, must win. that's why we saw them making multiple stops here in florida yesterday, another stop here today. this is a very tight race here in the state of fof florida and campaign is encouraged by some of these numbers. take a look at the cnn poll of polls which shows basically a dead heat in the state. clinton at 45%, trump at 45% as well. they know they have to hit battleground states hard. they also know they have to stay on message. this is something donald trump publicly reminded himself of yesterday telling the audience
he's got to stay cool and stay on point. >> we have got to be nice and cool, nice and cool, right? stay on point, donald. stay on point. no side tracks, donald. nice and easy. nice. because i've been watching hill ra hillary the last few days. she's totally unhinged. we don't want any of that. >> reporter: donald trump has had some problems trying to stay on message throughout the campaign, at times stepping on his own message. now that we are in the final stretch, the campaign wants to see donald trump stay focused on the issues. another thing they have to do is make inroads into some of these blue states. they have to flip a blue state in order to get to that magical number of 270. that's why you will see folks like mike pence and ted cruz for the first time out campaigning for the top of the ticket in states like michigan. they will also be in iowa.
melania trump for her part will be doing her part for the first time in the state of pennsylvania, campaigning later today. trump says he will be watching from north carolina. he's going to be making two stops in north carolina later. carol? >> all right. jason carroll reporting live from jacksonville, thank you. chelsea clinton kicking off a busy day for the campaign. she's not the only one. major surrogates for clinton fanning out across the country. >> all of you are uniquely qualified to make sure this guy who is uniquely unqualified does not become president. you have just got to vote. you have just got to vote. >> donald trump consumes so much oxygen with what he is saying and in how he is demeaning huge swaths of our country. >> our future is bright. but we can't get there if we choose anger over answers and if
we choose fantasy over facts. >> so our senior washington correspondent joe johns has more on the clinton campaign. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. hillary clinton's closing argument, get out the vote in battleground states sounding much more somber than her campaign would have preferred, though they say they are hoping to get back to talking about the candidate's vision for the country before it's all over. she's expected to have two stops in north carolina today wrapping up tonight with an event featuring pharrell williams and her opponent in the primaries, bernie sanders. her top surrogates fanning out across the country including of course the surrogate in chief, president obama. you just saw there, he was in north carolina on wednesday. he's going to be in miami today. as you listen to what the surrogates are saying, it's pretty clear they are pushing to try to get out the vote. today hillary clinton's running mate tim kaine is in arizona. bill clinton is in las vegas.
chelsea clinton is in wisconsin. >> joe johns reporting live this morning, thank you. so let's talk about senator ted cruz. senator ted cruz is with him, the man who once called donald trump a pathological liar and serial philanderror will hit the trail for trump. that breakfast meeting back in july where mr. cruz refused to endorse trump for insulting his wife and father, you know this one. >> i don't get angry often but you mess with my wife, you mess with my kids, that will do it every time. donald, you are a sniveling coward. leave heidi the hell alone. >> i'm not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father. >> oh, my, how things have changed. all is forgiven, apparently. cruz will not only vote for mr. trump but also campaign for him, actively campaign for him today in the state of iowa. let's talk about that and more. with me, larry sabato from the university of virginia center
for politics and virginia murphy from the daily beast and roll call. welcome to both of you. just to further refresh our memories, cruz's anger was sparked by a re-tweet from mr. trump, one that compares the looks of the two candidates' wives. remember that? in an earlier tweet trump threatened to quote, spill the beans on heidi cruz, whatever that meant. of course, mr. trump also seemingly accused mr. cruz's father of taking part in jfk's assassination. larry, this is quite an about-face on mr. cruz's part. >> well, that's a nice way to put it, carol. you know, politicians are known for turning on a dime but this one has got to go into the hall of fame. what it's about, obviously, is that cruz still has presidential ambitions. he hopes to run in the future, 2020, if trump loses, and it's going to be very difficult for any candidate to do so who has held out on trump, who didn't support the republican nominee
in 2016, and there are people in and out of texas in the republican party who are trying to produce a strong challenge to cruz when he runs for re-election to his senate seat in 2018. so cruz has lots of political motives to do this. but i just have to add one thing, carol. you know, you studied the 1960s enough to know this. there was no greater crime really in the 20th century than the assassination of president kennedy. there is no question that donald trump essentially accused his father of having been involved in the assassination of president kennedy. to forgive something like that when trump, to the best of my knowledge, has never apologized or taken that back in any way, shape or form, is stunning. >> plus, the republicans always call themselves, they are way
into family values. it just seems senator cruz maybe sold out his wife and dad because he wants to continue his political career. >> yes, with ted cruz there's kind of family and there's values and it seems like in this decision, the value is getting re-elected and reserving the right to run for president in the future. after ted cruz decided not to endorse donald trump at the republican convention and that convention hall went absolutely bananas and heidi cruz had to be escorted out by security, ted cruz's own approval ratings among republicans cratered from about 60% to 35% among republicans. i think it was a big risk for him. i don't think he anticipated the fallout of it. and the backlash. he's been trying to peddle his way back into republicans' good graces ever since but i don't think that laying down this moral obligation not to support a person and then reversing it and never even explaining really
why it's now okay that donald trump accused your dad of killing jfk, he's never really squared that circle and i think it will continue to be a real significant problem for him in the future, with republicans and anybody else who might be voting for him. >> larry, does this mean that republicans are coming home, as mike pence wants them to, because senator mitch mcconnell has been laying low, right? but just yesterday, he spoke out in favor of trump. reportedly telling kentucky voters we need a new president, donald trump. we need donald trump to be the most powerful republican in america and we must support him. so is that a sign that republicans are coming home? >> well, mitch mcconnell is from kentucky. kentucky will very predictably vote overwhelmingly for trump. that's part of the calculation for mitch mcconnell. but yes, republicans are coming home. it's a normal process. you have reluctant partisans. they are called reluctant partisans, for whatever reason they don't like the nominee and they tend to come home right at
the end because partisan fervor intensifies in the final days of a campaign. never has it been more true that there are loads of republicans who don't like donald trump. but at the end of a campaign they also focus on the opponent and they don't like donald trump but they hate hillary clinton. therefore, they reluctantly vote for donald trump. that is the source of the tightening of the polls. it isn't so much that iclinton th has dropped. it is more that trump has consolidated that party base. >> interesting. in light of what you just said, what mr. trump said on the campaign trail about sticking to the script, kind of makes sense. let's listen. >> this guy's a liar. >> okay. anyway, let me paraphrase as much as i can remember. patricia, he said that he's going to stay on message and he was sort of giving advice to himself at a rally.
>> i could almost hear kellyanne conway's voice saying don't go off script, donald. don't do it. because you know that's what she's been saying to him for the last several weeks and whenever donald trump stays on script, his numbers improve. particularly when you have so much ammunition against hillary clinton as the trump campaign does, it has driven republicans absolutely crazy when donald trump would go off on some weird tangent about a woman or somebody he did or didn't attack. he was his own worst enemy. so he is certainly getting this kind of advice from kellyanne conway and from other republicans. even mitch mcconnell said just get on script, just stay on the prompter. he's doing it and it's working for him but i think we all know that the next five, six days are going to be an absolute eternity for anybody watching donald trump and having his eyes wander off the prompter and where is he going. he could still really blow it wide open for himself. >> okay. so larry, patricia, stick
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the countdown is on, the race tighter than ever. new polls show donald trump gaining on hillary clinton in the battleground states, even overtaking her in one poll. now trump's team hopes that spells out to a path to 270 electoral college votes and the white house. cnn politics executive editor mark preston is following the numbers for us. fill us in. >> hey, carol. no doubt they are fanned out across the country. i say they, i mean the candidates and their surrogates. let's look at three specific states this morning. let's first look at colorado. a state that we haven't talked a whole lot about until recently. look at this poll that has come out right now from the university of denver. it is all tied up according to this poll right now. interestingly enough, we will see bill clinton in colorado for three events on friday. this is a blue state but appears to be tightening up. let's move up to the east coast, up to new hampshire right now. another state that had been blue but look at that, donald trump has a one-point lead within the margin of error right now in new hampshire. but yet still a race that had
been tightening up there. ivanka trump, perhaps donald trump's best surrogate on the campaign trail, will be there for an event today. then let's go down to florida. the all-important state of florida and take a look at these new numbers. hillary clinton up two on donald trump in the state of florida. we know barack obama has two events there today. donald trump is there today. we also know barack obama will go back on sunday. so while we see a bit of a lead right there for hillary clinton in florida, let's just say it's all tied up there as well and as well as it's tightening up in new hampshire. guess what? we are not even talking about all the other states that are very competitive. north carolina, ohio, nevada and all the others. carol? >> we are just about going to talk about nevada. thank you, mark. let's focus on the battleground state of nevada. the latest cnn/orc poll shows trump up by six points. that's a switch from a cnn poll taken three weeks ago that showed clinton up four. what does it mean? back with me, larry and patricia. patricia, how are you reading
the polls this morning? >> i am scratching my head with a lot of these nevada poll is a little bit out of whack. that's a huge swing from what we saw just a couple days ago in nevada. however, i think this is what most people have expected in a generic race. i think we generically thought this race would come down to a handful of states and those states would be extremely, extremely close just based on everything we have seen in past presidential elections. i don't know that i thought it would be this close with these two candidates and i think that that is coming as a surprise to a lot of people and i think that the revelations about hillary clinton have not helped her. it's not that it's changed people's minds about her with what director comey came out about her and the investigation they may or may not still be doing but i think it put her on defense and hillary clinton has not been able to make the positive affirmative declaration she wanted to be making to voters. she's back on defense now. you can feel her momentum a little bit stalled. i think it's given donald trump a big opening and he's been very
smart to stay on script, hit her hard and keep his own message positive. >> larry, democrats might say this poll really means nothing because so many democrats have already voted in early voting. i want our viewers to take a look. in clark county, for example, where las vegas is located, and where more than two-thirds of nevada's active registered voters live, democrats cast far more votes in early voting so far. does that negate trump's lead in this latest poll? >> well, it's a very big factor. i don't want to diss cnn while being on cnn but that poll is an outlier. i don't believe it. i think the facts on the ground contradict it. i would cite the number one expert on nevada politics, jon rolston who has eviscerated that survey. he's gone through the details, both the percentage of latinos and the fact that it's got trump up in the most heavily
democratic county, clark county. it's absurd. it's ridiculous. so get rid of that one. as far as the denver post poll is concerned, you always have to look at when a poll is taken. you know when that poll was taken? right after director comey of the fbi dropped that bombshell and damaged the clinton candidacy tremendously. well, we have seen since that friday and saturday a recovery by clinton in many states and i think it has occurred probably in colorado as well. big picture, clinton is still ahead. you can argue whether it's two points or three points or four points, but she's ahead nationally and she is ahead in enough battleground states to get her over 270. could it change by tuesday? anything could happen. but you would rather be hillary clinton than donald trump. >> okay. let's focus on new hampshire now. because wdur did a poll showing trump and clinton neck and neck.
hillary clinton did have a big lead there once. the poll also shows 54% of people in new hampshire have read a great deal about clinton's e-mail issues. in light of what larry said, patricia, is this really an ominous sign for mrs. clinton? >> well, i don't know that it's ominous. again, this is a state that was going to be tight and have 54% of people read a lot about that e-mail scandal, i would have expected it to be higher. i know 54% of people have read about donald trump's groping episodes or alleged groping episodes. i think people at this point are getting into their corners. i think most people have made their decisions to the extent that they haven't, it's a choice for them between the lesser of two evils and once we are starting to get into polling this close to election day, i think it's very hard to put any stock into it unless you are seeing the actual internal polling from some of these candidates, then you have to start looking at what do these people's ground games look like. in nevada in particular, the democratic ground game out there
that's been laid into place like harry reid over decades is incredible. if donald trump is able to win out there, he will have really outperformed anybody's best expectations. the clinton ground game is better, the momentum is a little stalled for her, so i think we all just have to wait until election day at this point. the polls we have to take with a grain of salt. >> thank you both. coming up in the "newsroom" intense fighting inside mosul right now with iraqi forces entering the isis stronghold. hands? like finding new ways 'sd to be taken care of. home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee! in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. it's good to be in, good hands.
good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. a u.s.-led air strike hammering isis right now as iraqi forces enter mosul for the first time in two years. an intense battle now under way. cnn's arwa damon is with forces on the outskirts of the city. hi, arwa. >> reporter: hi, carol. those forces that entered the neighborhood from the iraqi army's ninth division have only managed to go about two blocks, coming across a number of car bombs that were pre-positioned by isis as well as snipers on rooftops. all of this expected as isis is believed to put up quite the fight, trying to keep its grip on the city of mosul and then coupled with all of that, you also have the growing humanitarian crisis and concern. we are already beginning to see people fleeing from the fighting on the outskirts of the city itself.
earlier today, we spoke to a number of them. [ speaking a foreign language ] >> reporter: her husband has gone to get their daughter, who is in an area where there's still a bit of clashes. says it's very hard to describe her feelings right now. we're really happy. they feel as if they kind of have new life that has been breathed into them. she was crying. she was crying and she was praying thank god.
others who we spoke to said they had actually managed to get ahold of their relatives inside mosul who tried to flee the city but they say isis stopped them by shooting at them and forcing them back into their homes. and the real outpour of civilians has not even yet begun. the battle for the city itself, still very much in its initial stages with eight organizations warning of a humanitarian tsunami. carol? >> arwa damon reporting live near mosul, iraq. with five days to go until election day, we want to focus on the issues. this morning we will focus on the fight against isis. mosul is part of the american strategy to lessen isis' strength and rid iraq of the terrorist group so where do the candidates stand? donald trump tweeted this on october 23rd. quote, the attack on mosul is turning out to be a total disaster. we gave them months of notice. u.s. is looking so dumb. vote trump and win again. hillary clinton fired back that
trump was basically declaring defeat before the battle even started. let's talk about this. with me is a navy intelligence officer and fellow with the foreign policy research center who supports hillary clinton and gary bernstein, former cia officer and national security surrogate for donald trump. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> nice to have you here. gary, i want to start with you. iraqi troops with the help of u.s. special forces, they just entered mosul. is this really a disaster? >> no. what i would like to say is this. the problem that we have in the trump campaign has with president obama's national security policies is that under law, a president is required to draft a national security strategy every year. this administration has done this only two out of eight times. therefore, you don't have a plan from which the national -- which the pentagon -- >> so i want to focus just on
mosul and what donald trump said about it, that it was a disaster and that the united states looks stupid. has that proved true? >> what he's saying is -- yes, i will focus on that. carol, let me just say this. when we invaded afghanistan in 2001 after 9/11, and i was the senior cia officer on the ground for that, we didn't announce in advance how and what we were going to do. donald trump has constantly complained about the fact that this -- >> how has that muddied the waters in mosul? i want to focus on -- >> it allows -- it allows the enemy to prepare in advance and set many, many, you know, walls of ieds. i worked in ied task force in afghanistan. you don't want to allow the enemy to know in advance you are coming, especially in this new environment, in this world of ied warfare. >> okay. >> that's really what it comes down to. >> so navid, was the advance warning about the invasion of mosul, has it kept iraqi forces
at bay for longer than anticipated? >> absolutely not. this is what the trump campaign is hanging on in terms of pushing their point, i don't know where it's going. look, there's a very big difference between isis in iraq and isis in syria. these are very nuanced and frankly yemen, for that matter, these are very nuanced differences and these are differences that frankly hillary clinton understands and donald trump does not. iraq is important, it's a success simply not just because we are pushing isis out but also, we are doing so under the auspices of the iraqis. this is an iraqi operation. it is an iraqi operation to unify that country and when it is successful, iraq will be a stable, secure, self-sufficient state. that is progress that we haven't seen since we toppled saddam hussein. that is a huge win. to argue against it, i don't know where it's coming from. >> gary, you heard arwa talking
to those women who -- >> it's coming from experience. >> -- who are fleeing mosul, right? so there's some success there, right? >> of course. look, we first off, our thoughts and prayers are with the u.s. forces on the ground assisting the iraqis. of course we want to see isis removed from and defeated in mosul. but the point that mr. trump has made and the campaign has made is that this administration is foolish in its handling and its tactical employment of these practices. >> so tell me specifically about the operation in mosul. gary, tell me specifically about the operation in mosul, about how ineffective it's been when iraqi troops are entering the city now. >> how ineffective it's been and the price that it will be is that in this day and age when you allow an enemy to know you are coming and the path of your entry and if you actually expose your avenues of approach, these
people are going to set up ieds, ied after ied after ied -- >> you don't think they would have anyway? >> the point is they are not going to do that over a 50 mile stretch but if they know exactly where you're coming and if you telegraph every move you are going to make, you will have increased losses. of course we want to defeat isis. i have spent my life working and fighting against terrorist organizations and support donald trump in this fashion. the matter is you don't tell the enemy what you're going to do. >> so navid, is gary right when he says if there wasn't this announcement that iraqi troops were going to invade mosul, isis wouldn't have been preparing and planting so many ieds around the city which probably behihinderee operation or slowed it down? >> absolutely not. this is such a silly argument. this is a massive invasion. it's sort of like all they have
to do is look out the window to see the buildup. we are not telegraphing anything. you know, i'm tired of hearing about this. the reality is that we have -- look, we just had two fatalities in afghanistan which is something that neither candidate spoke about. i would have loved to hear both hillary clinton and donald trump's position on that. but putting that aside, when you get back to mosul, this was a successful operation. it's done so with american air power, americans on the ground in a support capacity. this is a model for future operations. i don't see how anyone can say that anything leading up to this was anything like a failure. this is a complete success. it's going to be textbook military operation. i don't know where gary is coming from. we telegraphed this, it's -- >> coming from the battlefield. that's where i'm coming from. >> we have to leave it there. thanks so much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
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one of the biggest prizes of all this election season, the battleground state of ohio. it went for president obama in 2008 and in 2012 but early voting data shows that right now, republicans are voting in higher numbers than democrats. a quinnipiac university poll has trump up by five points over hillary clinton. martin savidge has more. >> reporter: if republican billionaire donald trump wins ohio, it could be thanks to working class democrats. >> we are going to build the wall 100% and mexico is going to pay for the wall. >> reporter: his tough talk on illegal immigration, isis and political correctness resonate
in the suburbs. >> so we believe very strongly that trump's going to be -- going to win lake county. >> reporter: but trump's greatest buckeye success has been winning over a group of once solidly democrat voters. in part by hammering clinton on the subject of foreign trade. >> america's running a nearly $800 billion annual trade deficit. in other words, our great negotiators, we're losing this a trade deficit. >> reporter: in 1990 ohio had over a million manufacturing jobs. today, according to the bureau of labor statistics, that number is down to 680,000. callers on local talk radio. >> we are sending a message. we are not going to continue with this. >> reporter: a recent cnn orc ohio poll found trump soundly beating clinton on issues of the economy and foreign trade. among older voters and white men. the numbers are almost crushing. but the clinton campaign is
firing back. >> she has a plan right now that will create ten million jobs. >> reporter: sending supporters like the head of the afl-cio into union halls and factory towns, spreading the word trump's no union man. >> this guy's the most anti-union, anti-worker candidate that the republican party has put up since before world war ii. >> reporter: but unions here aren't as powerful as they once were. all of which makes the turnout of another democratic dynamo even more crucial. african-american voters. especially in cleveland and cuyahoga county. clinton has to win the county big. some say by a margin of 200,000 votes to offset down state republicans. but early voting numbers have some democrats worried. >> we're not that far off of 2012 and i just believe that by election day we will be where we need to be. >> reporter: african-american voters i talk to all support clinton. >> in this election i'm going with someone i feel is competent
and someone who has a background in government. >> reporter: all say they have or will vote for her. >> i have heard that numbers are down as well but i think we have got a strong team here in cleveland in particular that will work the next week to get people out to vote. >> reporter: i know this sounds very basic, almost too simple, but the reality is the difference between who wins and loses in ohio is going to depend on who shows up and who stays home on election day. there's very strong concern among clinton supporters that perhaps the african-american vote is not going to be strong enough. to that end they are trying to get out the vote again this weekend using what's called souls to the polls. historically black churches will after services offer transportation to early voting sites. if you are not a member of the faithful, rapper jay z has a
free concert. he's a supporter of hillary clinton. you can bet along with the music there will be a message. carol? >> martin savidge from cleveland, ohio. election day 2016. we will have all day coverage right here on cnn. still to come, actress susan sarandon joining the protest over the construction of an oil pipeline, saying there's no time to wait. president obama must take action now. our interview next. whoa, this is awful, try it. oh no, that looks gross what is that? you gotta try it, it's terrible. i don't wanna try it if it's terrible. it's like mango chutney and burnt hair. no thank you, i have a very sensitive palate. just try it! guys, i think we should hurry up. if you taste something bad, you want someone else to try it. it's what you do. i can't get the taste out of my mouth! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. shhh! dog, dog, dog.
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danger and the pipeline would create thousands of jobs. susan sarandon who is fighting against the project told me it's time president obama put a stop to it. >> they are water protectors, some of them native, some of them who are not, are having a peaceful ceremony. so to wait as obama wants to do to see how it plays out, it's already played out with people being arrested and strip searched and put in dog kennels overnight naked, things that don't even seem like this could be america. because no one from the mainstream media is doing stories on it, people don't know. the missouri river which they are trying to protect, this was on their sacred land where this confrontation took place, so the police have no right even being there. >> president obama said you know what, it's time to reassess, the oil company has agreed to do that, so why isn't that enough? >> because they are at the edge of the river. they have been drilling no matter what's been said or what
injunctions are there. we found out with drones yesterday they are at the river. it's not just a question of even stopping them. they are ready to go under the river. there needs to be an environmental study and he has to call for that environmental study before they continue to go under the river. >> what would you say to those people in the united states that say america ought to be energy independent and this pipeline will help america achieve that? what would you say to them? >> i would say you are absolutely right. we need to be independent but the pipeline will not achieve that. there was just a huge explosion the other day in alabama, just recently. there's explosions -- it's not a question of if they leak, it's a question of when. so we are poisoning -- you need to change. we need to take those people along and start new industries and actually make a difference. the oil ideas -- >> susan, these same people would say you know what, this pipeline will also create tens of thousands of jobs. it will pump hundreds of thousands of dollars into our
economy. isn't that worth it? >> well, not if you don't have water, it's not worth it if your water's poisoned. >> the candidates running for president, at least the two in the forefront, right, are not talking about this issue at all. why do you think that is? >> because if you look at who supports their campaign and who has contributed to hillary's campaign it's every single one of these corporations and banks. everyone from goldman sachs to the major banks. so that's one of the problems. you are not going to hear anything from her. >> what about donald trump? >> i doubt that's going to change. well, i don't think he's concerned either. >> jill stein, the green candidate, you are supporting her because she's the green candidate? >> i wanted to vote for somebody who in some way is concerned about the things that concern me. after my experience in the primary it's very clear to me that the dnc and also reading e-mails, that the dnc is gone.
we need a progressive party. so if she can get 5% the next time around that means we could have a really viable third party. >> what do you mean, the dnc is gone? what do you mean by that? >> it's completely corrupt and in bed with every -- every super delegate is a lobbyist. the way the system is set up in terms of having super delegates, you could win a state and not get the delegates is crazy. >> do you still hold admiration for bernie sanders since he's supporting hillary clinton? >> absolutely. look, bernie has said don't ever listen to me if i tell you how to vote. what he did was show people that they counted. he brought them hope, he's supporting a lot of candidates. it's very important to go to vote for down the ticket. >> most americans think this election is one of the worst ever because they have these two candidates that are unlikable. do you feel the same way? >> yeah. i think that whether they are unlikable or not, they are
untrustable. i think we have been voting the lesser of two evils for too long. that's why it's really important. the good news, if you want some good news, is that everybody is so frustrated that at least we are awake. >> we certainly are paying attention. back to what's happening in north dakota, president obama did say the army corps of engineers is trying to come up with a solution but that could take time. protesters want action now and say they will not leave until the pipeline is rerouted. we'll be right back.
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he would be your world series mvp and life-long cubs fan bill murray weeps as he watches his team win an absolute thriller, 8-7 to end their 108 year world series drought. >> 108 years. they have been waiting for a team like you boys. >> 108 years doesn't mean anything anymore. it's the start of something new, a new chapter for the chicago cubs, for the entire city. >> what does it say about this team the way you came back from 3-1 to win this? >> we never quit. we always said that. we never quit. it's never over until it's over. it's over now and we're on top. >> this is what you dream for as a kid. i'm 24 years old and i'm the luckiest guy on planet, man. >> congratulations to the cubs. coming in from all over the sports world, friends, the chicago bears, tweeting congratulations to them with
hash tag fly the "w." fans are superstition and they thought the number 108 very meaningful for them. there may have been 108 champagne bottles in the locker room. maybe not that many. it was quite the party. >> oh, my god, i'm sure their eyes were -- that looked like so much fun. thanks for sharing. we loved it. thank you for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts now. hello. i'm john berman. >> i'm kate bolduan. the fate of the world is teetering and it's up to you to save it. no, john, this isn't the tag line from the next avengers movie. it's actually what president obama is saying on the campaign trail right now. essentially we are all going down and only you can save it. we are waiting right now to hear much more from the president. he will be speaking any