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>> do you? >> you do not return the favor. >> it's early in the morning. >> you have called me the wrong name when you have been on -- >> listen, bob -- >> see? >> "the ridiculist," would you ever put colleagues on there? >> of course not. >> even if chris said something completely -- >> if i knew the names of my colleagues, perhaps. >> got it. >> here's one, carol costello, does that ring a bell? >> of course, everyone knows carol costello. >> time for newsroom with carol costello. >> thanks, stan and anderson, appreciate it. >> what'd she call me? >> stan! >> "newsroom" starts now. and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you very much for joining me. another busy day taking place for president-elect donald trump. he's in meetings and under fire. on the left side of your screen, the famed gold elevators whisking advisers up to the
headquarters. on the right-hand side of your screen, we're awaiting the next shot fired in trump's battle with the union boss. chuck jones is holding a news conference over the carrier deal. and the fallout after calling the president-elect a liar. and this could be a decisive weekend for the secretary of state pick. aides to the president-elect say former critic mitt romney is still in the running, despite some of trump's most trusted advisers publicly gunning him down. >> i just was reflecting what i saw on the grassroots. i had not seen blowback like that in quite a while. >> and i do want to ask you about that blowback. hold on one second, kellyanne. are you still seeing blowback to the possibility of mitt romney being chosen? >> yes. and the reason is it has a lot to do with the disloyalty and what he said in those remarks. obviously, donald trump has extended an olive branch, because that's how he is. >> cnn's sunlen serfaty following all the developments from washington. good morning.
>> good morning to you, carol. even though his search for the secretary of state has widened over the past week, it certainly does seem that the president-elect is inching towards making a decision some time soon. trump advisers saying that it's possible there could potentially be an announcement next week. but in the meantime, donald trump is hitting the road in full force, defending the people he's already chosen for his cabinet. >> reporter: reveling in a crowd of thousands in iowa -- >> you like it so far, everybody? >> reporter: -- president-elect donald trump defending his cabinet appointments. >> i want people that made a fortune, because now their negotiating with you. >> reporter: touting the success of some of his wealthy picks. >> it's no different than a great baseball player or a great golfer. >> reporter: including carl's jr. and hardee's executive andy puzder to head the labor department. he's a staunch critic of paid sick leave, against overtime
pay, and against increasing the minimum wage. >> states every have right to decide what the minimum wage should be. i've been opposed to minimum wage increases that kill jobs. >> reporter: trump saying in a statement that puzder, quote, will save small businesses from the crushing burdens of unnecessary regulations. meantime, scrutiny is growing over trump's pick to head the epa. oklahoma attorney general, scott pruitt. >> he's a climate science denier. >> reporter: at his third victory rally in des moines, trump echoing pruitt's call to roll back environmental regulations. >> and we are going to end the epa intrusion into your lives. >> reporter: and doubling down on campaign promises, including immigration. >> i've used the expression "extreme vetting." extreme. oh, it's going to be extreme. there's going to be doors. big, beautiful doors. >> reporter: trump also calling for improving u.s. relations with china. >> they haven't played by the rules and i know it's time that they're going to start.
>> reporter: as he formally rolled out his pick to be u.s. ambassador to china, iowa governor terry branstad, a longtime friend of the chinese president. >> a man who knows china and like s china. better like china if you're going to be over there. >> reporter: all of this as all eyes are on two big picks next week, a news conference on thursday to announce potentially backing away from his family business. but the incoming president is keeping his ties to "celebrity apprentice," the nbc reality show he launched nearly 15 years ago. sources tell cnn trump will stay on as executive producer of the show, and continue being paid as he is in the oval office, raising even more questions about the growing list of c conflicts between his business dealings and the presidency. >> all right, sunlen serfaty reporting. i want to take you now live to
indianapolis. this is chuck jones, the president of the united steelworkers local 1999. let's listen to what he has to say. >> thank you very much. the press that you have gave us has been very positive and it's helped out immensely, getting the word out to what's happening to working people here in this state and through all the country. but that's not what i got you here today. i wanted to tell you that i was not offered a job as secretary of labor. so that's off the table. i had a few key people trying to get it for me, but they weren't successful, so i'm still going to be here for some four or five more months. today, i want to talk about various things, but i think this needs to be mentioned. the rexnard facility on 7601
rocksville road, that plant has been here in indianapolis since the late 1950s. it was located in the 1920s over off west mission street, formerly known as link belt. longtime employer here. we had link belt chain, we had link belt bearing. 1976, 3,600 members between those two facilities. well, because of corporate greed and unfair trade, rexnord has decided to move to monterrey, mexico. and we're still in bargaining to try to do everything we possibly can to save those 300 jobs of our members that work at that facility. is it going to be tough? yeah. but we're not giving up the fight at rex nord for 300 of our members and we're not giving up the fight for 550 of our members at carrier here in indianapolis. and we're still in the fight to work and see if anything can be done for our ibew brothers and
sisters that work at utc in huntington, indiana. that's 700 people. they're losing their job, too. and the whole thing revolves around the whole thing i've been preaching all along, corporate greed and unfair trade. now, i'm probably wearing this out, but we've lost quite a few plants over the years. if you lose 'em because you can't get something worked out on a quality product they manufacture or you can't get something worked out because they're not profitable, you don't like it, but you can sort of understand. all of the plants they just listed, these have nothing to do with profitability or quality. what it is is because they want to enhance their shareholders' profits, so what do they do? they take good people's jobs away and move them to monterrey, mexico, to exploit the mexican
workers paying them $3 an hour. the average wage in huntington is $17 to $18. the average wage at carrier is about $23. the average wage at rex nord is about $25. that's a living wage. and all of these facilities have benefits. well, these companies come in and they strip the jobs away. they don't give a rat's ass about what they're doing to the people or the community. kelly's chuckling on that. but it's all about how much money they can make. let me introduce some folks. this is kelly ray hughen. he's our business representative from local 1999. he does, along with jim eckhock, our staff, he does our bargaining and our negotiations. this is wayne dale. wayne known as crash, that's what most people know him as. he is the sub-district director
for the international union here in indianapolis and the surrounding areas. everybody knows aflcao president, jeff vorhees, my friend, go back many years with bret. and sean chris. he's secretary treasurer for the afl, he heads up the clc, he's been very involved in a lot of different facets -- >> all right, we're going to jump out of this, but that was chuck jones, the president of the united steelworkers, local 1999. as you heard, he was talking about another company located in indianapolis that planned to move 300 jobs to mexico. he says it's because of corporate greed. so i would like to introduce my next guest now. his name is drew greenblatt. he met with the vice president-elect mike pence to talk about goods made in america. his company in baltimore employs skilled workers who make, as you
like to tell me, drew, the best damned wire baskets in the world. good morning and thank you for being with me this morning. >> thank you very much, carol. you know, you've toured our factory and we make everything 100% in the usa and export to 39 countries. and yesterday i had the privilege of meeting governor pence, vice president-elect pence and he talked about the explosion of great jobs that are going to be occurring soon in america, manufacturing jobs, and it was really exciting to listen to him. he described a manufacturing renaissance that's about to hit our country. it was really inspiring to listen to him. he talked about strong job growth, big wage increases, and it's going to be really exciting. we've actually already seen a nice little trump bump since the election, we've hired four people. >> drew, i'm going to interrupt you for just a second. i want to take our viewers back to indianapolis, because jones
is now talking about president-elect trump. >> -- got a little bit of thin skin, so i can take things with a grain of salt. and what he said, i thought it was funny, to be quite honest. but what we'll do is with the steel workers international and the help of the subdistrict office, we are not giving up the fight. we've still got to fight to move on. we intend on doing it for our members at carrier, rexnord, and the utc members in huntington. what we're looking at, folks, and a lot of folks for whatever reason, i won't get in a debate about that today, they may not like labor unions, okay. if they don't, that's a discussion for another time. but what people lose sight of a lot of times is the fact that people are losing their livelihood are people in the community that all they want was opportunity to work, provide for
their families, and now because of what i said earlier, these are being stripped away. people in indianapolis, i don't want to be negative, but is there a lot of $23 to $25-an-hour jobs that these folks are going to be able to go to? most certainly not. so their lives for the most part, and i don't want to use the word "ruined," but they're going to be drastically change ed because they're used to a certain lifestyle. and now through no fault of their own, that's being ripped away from them. some of them with the taa money and education, they'll be able to take advantage of that. some of them will be able to retire and receive some
training. some of them might end up in some manufacturing. the manufacturing jobs that pay anything are far and few between so what's happened here is we believe that these jobs need to remain in this country. the only thing we're asking for is an opportunity to work. don't ask us for a handout or giveback, anything like that. but when you rip a person's livelihood away from them, there's not a lot of things more important than people's lives, naturally their health and family and maybe their religion, but you take their jobs away, you see a big lifestyle change. i've been through probably eight plant closures and they're horrible. i've seen what it's done to people over the years. people end up running out of unemployment. they can't pay their car payment. pretty soon their car payments get behind, they're repoed. pretty soon they can't make their house payments.
their house -- >> all right. we're going to jump back out and i'll take you back to baltimore and to drew greenblatt who owns a small business there, a manufacturing company. and you were extolling your conversation with president-elect mike pence, saying that there's going to be a huge creation of jobs. but it's such a contrast to what chuck jones is saying. he doesn't believe that, obviously. >> well, what we need to happen is for a whole new paradigm to our can so we make it a no-brainer for companies to say, obviously, i'm going to build in america, because the ecosystem is so great, we have to build here. it makes all the financial sense in the world. so that has to change. so that guys like chuck and his workers and my employees can thrive and prosper. how's that going to happen? well, that's what governor pence lined up. he described several plans that he's going to institute with
president-elect trump, which will make it so easy for factories to grow and thrive and prosper in america. things like repealing -- >> uh-huh? go ahead. >> for example, he mentioned three things. repeal obamacare. number two, roll back regulations that add to value, that don't clean the environment, that don't improve the livelihood of employees, and lastly, tax reform. if we have a new tax reform system, all of a sudden we'll be competitive. it makes no sense to move to mexico. we've got to change it so that everybody says, of course, i'm going to paychemake it in ameri because if i make it in america, i'll save money. we have the best workforce in the world. the smartest, most talented, dedicated employees. it's a no-brainer to build in america. we have to change it so that -- >> can i ask you this question? i would like to ask you this question. you had such a positive conversation with mike pence. donald trump is fighting, you
know, on twitter, with chuck jones, and it seems like they both want the same thing, so, why do you think -- why don't you think mr. trump didn't have that positive conversation with chuck jones? >> i think we need a wonderful system so that factories in america say, of course i'm going to build in america. and that's going to happen because of the tax reform in the first hundred days. that's going to happen because of the rollback in regulations in the first hundred days. and what's going to happen is companies will all of a sudden say, wait a second, we have a different environment, it makes sense to build here. >> but, drew -- >> and also, a lot more american factories are going to grow and they're not going to build overseas. we want companies not to grow and build in ireland or europe or mexico. we want them to always build in america. and i think that's what governor pence was talking with me about yesterday, face-to-face.
he was describing his plan, so that we only build in the usa from now on. >> i gotcha. and that sounds great. it sounds great to many, many americans. i'm just saying that, for some, it's hard to believe, because, you know, you can build a factory in mexico and you can pay your workers three bucks an hour and make a lot more money maybe with all of the -- even with all the reforms you're talking about, american workers are not going to work for three bucks an hour at a factory doing skilled labor. >> you're absolutely right. in america, the average american manufacturing employee makes $77,000 a year. and if the company's exporting, they make $95,000 a year. that's on average. some more, some less. so these are extraordinary jobs with great benefits, over 95% pay health insurance. so these are jobs we've got to coddle and save. and that's why the commitment by governor pence and president-elect trump is so exciting. the enthusiasm they have about growing manufacturing jobs in our country is wonderful. i think unions --
>> but here's the other thing. here's the other thing. critics would say that the tax incentives that were offered to the carrier company, for example, didn't justify those 775 jobs that were saved. it gave the company too much. so, is that part of the trump/pence plan? to provide all of these tax breaks and tax incentives for companies to stay? >> so, governor pence actually talked with us about what happened with carrier. and he said, when he met them in the statehouse in indianapolis, he described -- in indiana, he described that the reason why carrier decided to leave was because in the prior 24 months, they had 50 new regulations imposed upon them. and that's what broke the camel east back. all of their competitors said, to heck with america. i'm moving to mexico. carrier was the last company making these products in america. and we broke the camel's back with those 50 regulations.
and that's why they threw in the towel. and governor pence couldn't turn it around, because those 50 regulations were imposed on him. what happened was, president trump -- president-elect trump picked up the phone and said, you know, i'm going to get rid of all of those regulations. i'm going to get rid of them on the first day. and i'm going to have the tax policy so different, it's a no-brainer for you to stay in america. all of a sudden, everything changed. this is what we're seeing. there's unbelievable enthusiasm and excitement in the manufacturing community and the owners of the manufacturing company, what's going to happen is they're going to have to hire people to handle all the new job growth and tall new opportunities that are going to be coming our way. as a matter of fact, our companies have been surged with new orders. we've hired four new people and will be hiring three more next week to keep up with the demand. the stock market's going ballistic. people are thrilled about what's happening at the manufacturing community. >> okay, well, a lot of people are hoping you are absolutely
right. drew greenblatt, always a pleasure to have you on. >> thank you so much! >> you're welcome. still to come in the newsroom, anticipation building over who donald trump picks for secretary of state and the number of candidates, and add yet another one to the list. energy is a complex challenge. people want power. and power plants account for more than a third of energy-related carbon emissions. the challenge is to capture the emissions before they're released into the atmosphere. exxonmobil is a leader in carbon capture.
all right, then. in the last block, i talked to drew greenblatt, he owns a small business, a small manufacturing plant in baltimore. he talked with vice president-elect mike pence and says he is excited about job creation because the trump administration will can those regulations that are preventing jobs in the united states. you also heard from jones wlobs, it's great you saved is 800 jobs at carrier. now it's time to sit down with union leaders, too so we can work together. with me now is larry sabato with the university of virginia, and
heidi przybyla with "usa today." welcome to both of you. larry, so drew greenblatt, he met with the vice president-elect mike pence. he said what made carrier decide to keep those jobs in the united states was that mr. trump got on the phone and said all of those regulations that have been nagging you will soon go away. do you think that they will? >> well, you know, carol, during the transition, it's basically a field of dreams. and the incoming party, in this case, the republicans and all of their supporters are portraying a world that may or may not come to be after january 20th. there was a wonderful sentence uttered by attorney general john mitchell, who was an intimate of president richard nixon, shortly after nixon took the presidency in 1969. and he said, watch what we do, not what we say.
and this is, i think, words of wisdom for the trump administration. watch what they do, not what donald trump or mike pence say in tweets or speeches or, you know, talking to a local businessman. let's see what they can actually accomplish. >> and it's interesting that you cite that example because of mr. trump's pick for labor secretary, which could be mr. puzder. he owns a lot of fast food restaurants. he's a big-time ceo. this is what he told me about mr. trump back in july. >> donald trump comes in, he's very authentic. this is who i am. this is what i am. i'm a rich guy, but i understand what you want. i know what you're feeling. i know blue collar people, i know working class people. and you -- with donald trump, you never doubt that you're getting exactly what you see. >> okay. so mr. trump says he feels the
same way about mr. puzder, but mr. puzder is a billionaire. he's the ceo of hardee's and carl's jr. he opposes the $15 minimum wage, he opposes overtime for full-time workers. and he has criticized paid sick leave. so, heidi, how -- i mean, all of those things are important to all kinds of workers. so how does that mesh with being for the little guy and creating the kinds of jobs that provide for a nice middle class life? >> this is where larry's advice about watching what they do is so important, carol, because on the one hand, the republicans on the hill are being told, you now represent this new brand workers party. on the other hand, you have donald trump assembling what essentially looks like a corporate board room to oversee this new workers' party. and a lot of that history, like with mr. puzder, you outlined it all. and that is up for the american people to decide whether these gentleman and women whose main
mission in business has been to maximize profit are now going to take that expertise to translate into not just profit for corporations, but profit for workers. and the premise seems to be that there should not be any of these traditional protections that we've seen build up over the past 30 years, which frankly, have been a response to deregulation. because we've had this deregulation push since the 1980s. and what we've seen is even despite some of these pr protections that have been fought for, you've also seen a commensurate increase in income inequality. so this is going to be a grand test, assuming like larry says, that they can even get a lot of their agenda accomplished, it will test whether that theory of pure deregulation and privatization really does also maximize profit for workers and not just companies. >> larry, i think some people might think that as long as jobs
are provided, it's okay and it doesn't matter how much the jobs necessarily pay or what the benefits are or whether the employer provides health insurance, for example, since obamacare is going to be repealed and replaced with something down the line. >> well, that may be true, except, i think americans have high expectations. and one reason why trump was able to win is because americans, this new generation of americans, for the first time, sees their life as being less prosperous than that of their parents and grandparents. so it's certainly a great goal for the trump administration to create an american where prosperity is restored to younger generations. but you know, it's easy to say, it's tough to do. and abolishing all of the rules and regulations that heidi was just talking about will generate an explosion, and not just among
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. with six weeks until he's sworn in as the next commander in chief, donald trump is again vowing to fight terror in part by cracking down on immigration. >> one of my first executive orders will be to ask the department of labor to investigate all of these abuses that undermine jobs and wages for the american worker. to protect our country from terrorism and extremism. we will suspend immigration from regions where it cannot be safely process ordinary vetted. you know i've used the expression "extreme vetting" if
extreme, oh, it's going to be extreme. >> and while the specifics of trump's plans have not been fully unveiled, president obama offered a warning earlier this week about the dangers of using fear in the war on terror. >> the whole objective of these terrorists is to scare us into changing the nature of who we are and our democracy. and the fact is, people and nations do not make good decisions when they are driven by fear. >> joining me now to talk about this is republican congressman, adam kinsingler of illinois, he's also a former air force pilot that served in iraq and afghanistan. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks for being on. is fear at the root of trump's policy positions? >> look, i think he's really good. what we saw over the campaign and i think even what we're seeing since is that he's good
at communicating with the american people in a way that no other candidate really has. so i think to an extent, he's talking about reality. he's talking about the fact that there is a big problem with isis and daesh around the world. you know, al qaeda and boko haram, all these different terror groups. but i think we do have to be careful to walk the line between using fear as a weapon to get something done or for politics, versus, however, which i would actually say president obama's leaned a little too heavily on, which is sweeping the problem under the rug and not addressing it. so somewhere in the middle is where we need to come down. and that will be the president-elect's decision on how he wants to talk about it. >> okay, so here's why i asked you that. this is what mr. trump's national security adviser, general michael flynn, said in august. in an interview on breitbart, he said this about people fleeing mexico. >> i know from my friends in the border patrol, in the cdp, that there are countries, so there's radical islamist countries,
state-sponsored, that are cutting deals with mexican drug cartels for some of what they call the lanes of entry into our country. and i have personally seen the photos of the signage, okay, the signage along those paths that are in arabic. >> so border patrol agents told cnn they were not aware of the signs in arabic that general flynn referenced. do you believe there are signs in arabic in mexico pointing the way to the united states? >> i haven't seen them either. i don't think it's far fetched to think that, you know, transnational terrorist groups would actually be cutting deals with cartels to get into the united states. at the same time, you know, i haven't seen the signs in arabic, if that's what we're talking about. you know, i think tendency of general flynn kind of in the past has been to say things that are kind of broad, that are going to get headlines, that are going to make it on the internet and get retweeted. and unfortunately, now, in his
position as nsa, national security adviser, he has to be held to a much higher level of standard on the truth. and i think, you know, sometimes when you tell a story, it can go from, i heard about signs in arabic to, i actually saw the signs in arabic, when maybe that's not the case. so i don't want to accuse him of not seeing them. i'm just unaware of having seen them personally. >> should he go back and rescind what he said in the past? once you say something and it's out there, frankly, it's out there. >> frankly, if you had to go through all candidates or anybody that ever served in government and they have to go back and truth check all their statements, it would be a very long week, indeed. so i think to an extent, you know, things like that, i think, should be addressed. but you know, you can't expect, i think, for him to go back over the last couple of years and say, hey, here's every instance where maybe i didn't see signs or sympathetic else. but from here on out, the national security adviser has to be held to a high level of truth and rightness. because, frankly, he's got the
ear of the president on very important matters like this. >> so are you comfortable with general flynn as the national security adviser then? >> so i'm very comfortable with everybody that's been in trump's cabinet so far. where i'm hesitant is with general flynn. now, i think he's very good on the issues of defeating terror and recognizing the problems that we're facing around the world when it comes to terrorism. where i have concern is, i've seen an affection for vladimir putin and russian, through general flynn, i think, from what i understand. so that stuff's very concerning when you talk about the next administration. but the good news is, there are very good people being put around donald trump and that's where secretary of state will be very important. >> when donald trump says "extreme" -- i can't say it like he does, but when he says that's "extreme," what does he mean? >> i don't know. i think this is part of, you know, he's good at communicating, although we didn't recognize it really over the last year.
but he's very good at communicating with people. and he's making the point, that we can't have people come here -- which i agree with -- that we don't know necessarily where they come from and don't foe their intentions. that doesn't mean we put up the walls and don't let anybody in the united states. i think we need real immigration reform. but at the same time, we can't be letting people in where we don't know their intentions or anything like that. it's difficult. >> do we do that now? >> no, not to an extent. we're actually one of the most generous refugee reselttling nations in the world. we're not just talking about muslim areas, but poor areas in eastern asia and everywhere else. we do pretty extensive background checks on people. to the extent that donald trump wants to make that safer and more efficient, get it done a little faster, but i think people need to understand that their government does this now. and we deal with all the time people who have been rejected, family members of people here, and we find out why. >> do donald trump did mention in that speech in iowa that he
wanted to suspend immigration from dangerous countries. so would congress go along with something like that? >> i think it depends on how it's developed. i think just -- you know, i was obviously very critical of when he talked about a muslim ban. and that has been changed into this idea of extreme vetting. you know, look, we all would agree, and i've said very, very honestly and openly, if we can't research where somebody's coppicop i coming from, if we can't research their intention. this is the problem with syria. you have a centralized government that's basically been torn up, which means all records and personnel information is difficult to get. i think if we don't know, then we have to look out for the interest and the safety of the united states first. but that doesn't mean we become an isolationist country by any means. we're the most generous in the world. >> congressman adam kinzinger of illinois, thanks so much for being with us this morning. special forces soldiers came tantalizingly close to capturing or killing the head of isis last year, but they missed their chance when classified information was leaked to the
media, that's according to a senior u.s. military official. abu bakr baghdadi was in raqqah, syria, last year, but when some of that information was leaked, they lost their chance to nab him. that's according to that official. south korea has a new acting president this morning. the prime minister has taken over after lrps voted to impeach the current president. the vote to impeach passed by a resounding 234 votes to 56. thousands of south koreans took to the streets to celebrate after her ouster. she was so unpopular with south koreans, her approval rating was at 5% and that's actually up a point from her previous showing at 4%. we'll be right back. i want to show you some of my favorite spots in chicago. i want to take you to tweet, to
where i usually come before a show to get a hearty, healthy breakfast. when i came in, i noticed they were offering a gluten free option and a regular option. what brought that about? >> demand. people are really are very conscience of how they eat these days. they want a gluten free, and we said, we can do it. >> we're here in the sculpture court. i love to come here and see the human form depicted. it really inspires me to see our both on stage and on canvas. chicago offers some great venues for live music. so tonight i want to take you to one of my favorite, the green mill. nicole, this place obviously has a great history. and i understand we're sitting in the actual capone booth. >> yes, this is where al capone would sit when he came in. the rumor is that if you were here when he came in, you could drink for free, but no one was allowed to leave. that's how he stay eed alive, being paranoid and controlling.
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"the last of america's first astronauts has left us, but propelled by their example, we know that our future here on earth compels us to keep reaching for the heavens." for more on john glenn's life and legacy, i'm joined by retired nasa astronaut, leroy chow. welcome, sir. >> a pleasure to be with you. >> talk about john glenn's legacy. what did he mean to the space program? >> well, as you said, he was the first american to orbit the earth. he was one of the original seven astronauts. and you know, his personality made him sort of a larger than life hero, certainly one of my boyhood heros, certainly one of the early astronauts that inspired me to want to become an astronaut myself. so saddened to learn about his passing, but what a full life. you know, both in the astronaut office, before that, as a naval -- a marine aviator, and then, you know, afterwards as a >> i know. he didn't waste a moment.
space flight is inherently risky. john glenn was asked about the danger of space travel in a 1998 interview. here's what he had to say. >> we used to joke about it in the past when people would say what do you think about on the launch pad. the standard answer is how do you think you would feel if you were on top of two million parts built by the lowest bidder on a government contract? >> so he had a sense of humor. i love that so much. you know, the thing about john glenn, i met john glenn many times because i was a reporter in ohio for a long period of time and when he served as senator i interviewed him. i met john glenn and his wife. they were really lovely, nice, humble people and that also stood out about john glenn. >> oh, absolutely. when i met him when he was training for his mission in 1997-1998, also got a chance to meet his lovely wife annie, like you say, they are just sweet people. very, very forthright, very
friendly, outgoing and very serious, too. he took his mission training seriously and went out there and did a great job as you would expect. >> you know, i have always wondered what he would think of nasa's program now because it's so diminished from when he traveled into space. >> right. i mean, the apollo program that followed the mercury and gemini programs, that was the zenith as far as funding goes and as far as the national imperative went trying to get to the moon first. so far we have had a number of successes with the shuttle program and the station program and now we are going a bit slower than we would like, those of us in the business would like, less efficient, but the good news is we are still moving forward. i'm cautiously optimistic we will continue to do that and continue to move forward and i hope we can remain the leaders
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ohio state-michigan game or the first iron bowl, there was the army-navy game. as the teams prepare to meet for the 117th time, army is hoping to snap a 14-game losing streak to navy. coy wire is covering the big game. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the first army-navy game was played in 1890. this game highlights men not committed just to each other and the game but to us, to serving and protecting our country. we caught up with one of the greatest navy players of all time, keenan reynolds. he set ncaa records for touchdowns and is now a member of the baltimore ravens. for the first time he will get to watch this game as a fan. >> the army-navy game in my opinion is the biggest and best rivalry in sports, really. just what it means to both sides. it's the biggest thing you learn walking into the naval academy, beat army. being able to win all four years was kind of like the high note
of my career at the academy. nothing felt better than running on that field with my teammates and being able to celebrate after the game. everybody screaming and yelling and jumping the stands and just singing the alma mater and being able to shout beat army at the end after you just beat army. it's kind of an indescribable feeling. as a fan, i'm just ready to enjoy the bells and whistles of the game. i never really got to appreciate all the glitz and glamour that surrounds the game. now i will have the opportunity to go. i definitely want to just go and enjoy the march on, the flyover, stuff that we are not out there for and really just kind of soak it all in. my prediction is very obvious. navy in a rout. beat army! >> reporter: one of the most revered and enchanting rivalries in all of sports. it will be a great game. even president-elect donald trump said he will be there and keeping in tradition with presidents who attended this game in the past, he will stay one half on navy's side, the
other half of the game on army's side so as not to choose a side. whoever wins this game, it doesn't really matter. it's about the meaning behind it. there will be tears, there will be joy, it will be awesome tomorrow at 3:00. the army-navy game. >> wait. did you say it doesn't matter who wins? >> reporter: i shouldn't say that while on the naval academy. go, navy! beat army! there we go. >> i was going to say. you're in danger now, coy wire. thank you so much. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. donald trump meeting right now with house speaker paul ryan. let's take a look at trump tower where we could see the president-elect heading out the door for his thank you rallies in louisiana and michigan later today. all of this ahead of what could be a decisive weekend for the secretary of state pick. aides to the president-elect say former critic mitt romney is still in the running but concede
that trump is now expanding his search. >> in recent days he's been meeting with ambassador john bolton, and more recently, rex tillerson from exxon and yesterday alan mulaly from ford. these two men are captains of industry who already deal with the developing country, in the case of mr. tillerson, has dealings with russia, china, yemen and of course, most of the world. so it's a fascinating way of approaching such an incredibly important job and it's very donald trump. >> cnn's sunlen serfaty is following the developments from washington. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. we know at this hour president-elect donald trump is sitting down in trump tower with speaker of the house paul ryan, but that's not the only item on his long agenda list today. certainly the most notable is still outstanding question of who will be chosen as the next